Re: Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

2000-12-26 Thread Jim Dawson

That's odd... I had that problem with the 7.2 CDs I bought 
from CheapBytes but not with the copy I burnned from the 
.ISO files.

Note that I did buy 7.2 from CB right after it was released,  
so it was on a CD-R disk rather than a pressed CD as CB 
normally sells. This is also the only CD I've ever had a 
problem with from CB.

Has anyone bought a 7.2 CD from CheapBytes lately? If so are 
they pressing the CDs yet or are they still using CD-R 
disks?

 At this point guys I would strongly suggest getting the 
7.2 CD's from
 cheapbytes. I too had the same problems and as soon as I 
got the disks
 from Cheapbytes and tried them out everything went 
flawlessly.
 
 -- 
 Mark
 ###
 ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature
 ## Registered Linux User # 182496
 ##!-- Pine 4.31 --
 #
 
 
 On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 Michael Johnston spake passionately 
saying:
 
  I have the exact same problem...using the pocketbooks 
CD...
  My CDRom is a pioneer drive which works perfectly in 
win2000.
 
  This is not very reassuring.
 
  Michael
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Paul Williamson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 3:34 PM
  Subject: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL
 
 
   When I install mandrake by booting from the cd, there 
is an error :
  
   "error loading second stage ramdisk"
  
  
  
   How do I fix it??
  
  
   I downloaded the 'autoboot.bat file but where do I put 
it?
  
  
   Thanks
  
  
   Paul Williamson
  
   Contact:
   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   MSN-Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ICQ# 83724504 (http://wwp.icq.com/83724504)
  
   Websites:
   http://paulw9.darktech.org/
   http://www.huntingtower.vic.edu.au/
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 





Re: Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

2000-12-26 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Tuesday 26 December 2000 08:59 am, Jim Dawson wrote:
 Has anyone bought a 7.2 CD from CheapBytes lately? If so are
 they pressing the CDs yet or are they still using CD-R
 disks?

I quit using Cheapbytes and started using lsl.com.  They're a 
little cheaper, usually have new upgrades available sooner and ship 
quicker, and most of all, better quality CD's.  FWIW, I've always found 
CDr's to be better than mass produced production CD's.  lsl.com has 
always sent me high quality CDr's.  'Course my CDrom (BCD) and CD-RW 
(Plextor) are high quality and known to work very well with most all 
media.  YMMV

   Ram disk errors on boot from CD are, IMO, most often caused by 
marginal CD drives, marginal CD media, and/or marginal ram, in that 
order.  There's many other possible reasons, but most involve marginal 
and/or misconfigured (bios) hardware.
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




Re: Re: Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

2000-12-26 Thread Jim Dawson

 On Tuesday 26 December 2000 08:59 am, Jim Dawson wrote:
  Has anyone bought a 7.2 CD from CheapBytes lately? If so 
are
  they pressing the CDs yet or are they still using CD-R
  disks?
 
 I quit using Cheapbytes and started using lsl.com.  
They're a 
 little cheaper, usually have new upgrades available sooner 
and ship 
 quicker, and most of all, better quality CD's.  FWIW, I've 
always found 
 CDr's to be better than mass produced production CD's.  
lsl.com has 
 always sent me high quality CDr's.  'Course my CDrom (BCD) 
and CD-RW 
 (Plextor) are high quality and known to work very well 
with most all 
 media.  YMMV

Thanks, I'll check out LSL when 7.3 is released.
 
Ram disk errors on boot from CD are, IMO, most often 
caused by 
 marginal CD drives, marginal CD media, and/or marginal 
ram, in that 
 order.  There's many other possible reasons, but most 
involve marginal 
 and/or misconfigured (bios) hardware.

Although the RAMDISK errors can be caused by hardware 
problems, One of the UNIX guys where I work and I tried the 
CD I got from CheapBytes on several systems ranging from my 
three home systems ('Franenstein' boxes made mostly from the 
parts of other computers) and several systems at work 
ranging from (2 year) old Dell Optiplex desktops to new 
Compaq servers. All of the computers exhibited the same 
ramdisk error. 





Re: Re: Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

2000-12-26 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Tuesday 26 December 2000 12:43 pm, Jim Dawson wrote:
 Although the RAMDISK errors can be caused by hardware
 problems, One of the UNIX guys where I work and I tried the
 CD I got from CheapBytes on several systems ranging from my
 three home systems ('Franenstein' boxes made mostly from the
 parts of other computers) and several systems at work
 ranging from (2 year) old Dell Optiplex desktops to new
 Compaq servers. All of the computers exhibited the same
 ramdisk error.

 Well, in that case the marginal hardware is prob'ly the CD ;
-- 
Tom Brinkman   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay





Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

2000-12-25 Thread civileme

On Sunday 24 December 2000 10:23, you wrote:
 O but whats the actual problem THE CD I HAVE WORKS ON SOME SYSTEMS!



 Paul Williamson

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 - Original Message -
 From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 9:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

  At this point guys I would strongly suggest getting the 7.2 CD's from
  cheapbytes. I too had the same problems and as soon as I got the disks
  from Cheapbytes and tried them out everything went flawlessly.
 
  --
  Mark
  ###
  ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature
  ## Registered Linux User # 182496
  ## !-- Pine 4.31 --
  #
 
  On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 Michael Johnston spake passionately saying:
   I have the exact same problem...using the pocketbooks CD...
   My CDRom is a pioneer drive which works perfectly in win2000.
  
   This is not very reassuring.
  
   Michael
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Paul Williamson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 3:34 PM
   Subject: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL
  
When I install mandrake by booting from the cd, there is an error :
   
"error loading second stage ramdisk"
   
   
   
How do I fix it??
   
   
I downloaded the 'autoboot.bat file but where do I put it?
   
   
Thanks
   
   
Paul Williamson
   
Contact:
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN-Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ# 83724504 (http://wwp.icq.com/83724504)
   
Websites:
http://paulw9.darktech.org/
http://www.huntingtower.vic.edu.au/

Yes the CD works on some systems.  Your CD drive on this particular system 
could be just enough eccentric to cause a bad load though there are many 
other CDs it could use flawlessly.  Remember the laser is used to read the 
tracks, not to position the head, so it is quite possible this particular 
combo will not work.

Try using a different CDROM drive or different media if you can.  If that 
does not help, it is time to suspect a memory problem on your machine.

Civileme

If you have a problem with loading second stage, autoboot will not help.





Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

2000-12-24 Thread Paul Williamson

O but whats the actual problem THE CD I HAVE WORKS ON SOME SYSTEMS!



Paul Williamson

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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL


 At this point guys I would strongly suggest getting the 7.2 CD's from
 cheapbytes. I too had the same problems and as soon as I got the disks
 from Cheapbytes and tried them out everything went flawlessly.
 
 -- 
 Mark
 ###
 ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature
 ## Registered Linux User # 182496
 ## !-- Pine 4.31 --
 #
 
 
 On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 Michael Johnston spake passionately saying:
 
  I have the exact same problem...using the pocketbooks CD...
  My CDRom is a pioneer drive which works perfectly in win2000.
 
  This is not very reassuring.
 
  Michael
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Paul Williamson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 3:34 PM
  Subject: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL
 
 
   When I install mandrake by booting from the cd, there is an error :
  
   "error loading second stage ramdisk"
  
  
  
   How do I fix it??
  
  
   I downloaded the 'autoboot.bat file but where do I put it?
  
  
   Thanks
  
  
   Paul Williamson
  
   Contact:
   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   MSN-Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ICQ# 83724504 (http://wwp.icq.com/83724504)
  
   Websites:
   http://paulw9.darktech.org/
   http://www.huntingtower.vic.edu.au/
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 





Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

2000-12-24 Thread Paul

On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Paul Williamson wrote:

O but whats the actual problem THE CD I HAVE WORKS ON SOME SYSTEMS!

 At this point guys I would strongly suggest getting the 7.2 CD's from
 cheapbytes. I too had the same problems and as soon as I got the disks
 from Cheapbytes and tried them out everything went flawlessly.

Perhaps the memory in the other systems is not as sensitive (as in slower,
less optimized) as the one you are trying to set up.

I have heard of a CDplayer too fast for a certain program, the spin-up
time was longer than the program would allow it to, hence the program
would crash on a time-out.

Paul

-- 
This Signature Examined By INSPECTOR NO. 2-14

http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403
 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.31





Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

2000-12-23 Thread Mark Weaver

At this point guys I would strongly suggest getting the 7.2 CD's from
cheapbytes. I too had the same problems and as soon as I got the disks
from Cheapbytes and tried them out everything went flawlessly.

-- 
Mark
###
## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature
## Registered Linux User # 182496
##  !-- Pine 4.31 --
#


On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 Michael Johnston spake passionately saying:

 I have the exact same problem...using the pocketbooks CD...
 My CDRom is a pioneer drive which works perfectly in win2000.

 This is not very reassuring.

 Michael

 - Original Message -
 From: "Paul Williamson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 3:34 PM
 Subject: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL


  When I install mandrake by booting from the cd, there is an error :
 
  "error loading second stage ramdisk"
 
 
 
  How do I fix it??
 
 
  I downloaded the 'autoboot.bat file but where do I put it?
 
 
  Thanks
 
 
  Paul Williamson
 
  Contact:
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  MSN-Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ICQ# 83724504 (http://wwp.icq.com/83724504)
 
  Websites:
  http://paulw9.darktech.org/
  http://www.huntingtower.vic.edu.au/
 
 
 
 







Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

2000-12-22 Thread John Rigby


 On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:35, Paul Williamson wrote:
  Thanks for replying!,
 
  I am booting from the CD on a DVD-Drive (very new!)
 
  I got it on The Linux Pocketbook (www.pocketbooks.net.au)
 
  thanx!

Paul,
Try washing the CD with a detergent and VERY soft cloth or tissue.
Make sure COMPLETELY dry and retry it. 
The CD's are pretty roughly bashed out and very fast and have glue, scratches 
and all sorts of things on them..

Been there done that!

Cheers,

John




Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

2000-12-21 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

Sounds like your drive may be faulty. Any recent drive should be able to read 
this CD with no trouble. Some DVD drives have problems when accessing 
CD-ROMs, this is another possibility for your drive. You could try using some 
sort of bootdisc (I believe the Mandrake site has instructions to do this), 
and then try to install Linux.

Is it possible to get your hands on another Mandrake CD to test on your 
system? There could be some slight imperfections on the disc that your DVD 
drive may not like but CD readers can cope with. If you have a CD burner, you 
can download Mandrake ISOs from sites like ftp://ftp.aarnet.edu.au and then 
burn them to CD, although this may take a while, particularly if you don't 
have something like cable or DSL Internet (by your e-mail address, I assume 
you have ordinary Optus dial-up access).

On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:35, Paul Williamson wrote:
 Thanks for replying!,

 I am booting from the CD on a DVD-Drive (very new!)

 I got it on The Linux Pocketbook (www.pocketbooks.net.au)

 thanx!



 Paul Williamson

 Contact:
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSN-Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ICQ# 83724504 (http://wwp.icq.com/83724504)

 Websites:
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 http://www.huntingtower.vic.edu.au/

 - Original Message -
 From: "Sridhar Dhanapalan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Paul Williamson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

  If the same CD works on other PCs, the problem may lie with your CD-ROM
  drive. How old is your PC, and in particular your CD-ROM drive?
 
  Out of curiousity, what magazine did you get it from?
 
  On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:17, Paul Williamson wrote:
   nah i didnt, but it was one of those releases on a magazine cover. it

 works

   on some pcs, but not the one i want it ti\o..
  
   any other ideas ?
  
  
  
   Paul Williamson
  
   Contact:
   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   MSN-Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ICQ# 83724504 (http://wwp.icq.com/83724504)
  
   Websites:
   http://paulw9.darktech.org/
   http://www.huntingtower.vic.edu.au/
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Sridhar Dhanapalan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Paul Williamson" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:08 PM
   Subject: Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL
  
Did you burn your own Mandrake CD? I had the same problem, and I
later realised that I had a buffer underrun while burning. If that is
the

 case,

   you
  
will have to burn it again.
   
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:34, Paul Williamson wrote:
 When I install mandrake by booting from the cd, there is an error :

 "error loading second stage ramdisk"



 How do I fix it??


 I downloaded the 'autoboot.bat file but where do I put it?


 Thanks


 Paul Williamson

 Contact:
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSN-Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ICQ# 83724504 (http://wwp.icq.com/83724504)

 Websites:
 http://paulw9.darktech.org/
 http://www.huntingtower.vic.edu.au/
   
--
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this
change.
 
  --
  Sridhar Dhanapalan.
  Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this
  change.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.




Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

2000-12-21 Thread Michael Johnston

I have the exact same problem...using the pocketbooks CD...
My CDRom is a pioneer drive which works perfectly in win2000.

This is not very reassuring.

Michael

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Williamson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 3:34 PM
Subject: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL


 When I install mandrake by booting from the cd, there is an error :
 
 "error loading second stage ramdisk"
 
 
 
 How do I fix it??
 
 
 I downloaded the 'autoboot.bat file but where do I put it?
 
 
 Thanks
 
 
 Paul Williamson
 
 Contact:
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSN-Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ICQ# 83724504 (http://wwp.icq.com/83724504)
 
 Websites:
 http://paulw9.darktech.org/
 http://www.huntingtower.vic.edu.au/
 
 
 
 





Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

2000-12-21 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

Mandrake doesn't like some particular combinations of motherboard and other 
components. There's a hardware compatibility list at www.linux-mandrake.com, 
try looking your hardware up there.

On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:35, Paul Williamson wrote:
 Thanks for replying!,

 I am booting from the CD on a DVD-Drive (very new!)

 I got it on The Linux Pocketbook (www.pocketbooks.net.au)

 thanx!



 Paul Williamson

 Contact:
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSN-Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ICQ# 83724504 (http://wwp.icq.com/83724504)

 Websites:
 http://paulw9.darktech.org/
 http://www.huntingtower.vic.edu.au/

 - Original Message -
 From: "Sridhar Dhanapalan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Paul Williamson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

  If the same CD works on other PCs, the problem may lie with your CD-ROM
  drive. How old is your PC, and in particular your CD-ROM drive?
 
  Out of curiousity, what magazine did you get it from?
 
  On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:17, Paul Williamson wrote:
   nah i didnt, but it was one of those releases on a magazine cover. it

 works

   on some pcs, but not the one i want it ti\o..
  
   any other ideas ?
  
  
  
   Paul Williamson
  
   Contact:
   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   MSN-Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ICQ# 83724504 (http://wwp.icq.com/83724504)
  
   Websites:
   http://paulw9.darktech.org/
   http://www.huntingtower.vic.edu.au/
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Sridhar Dhanapalan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Paul Williamson" [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:08 PM
   Subject: Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL
  
Did you burn your own Mandrake CD? I had the same problem, and I
later realised that I had a buffer underrun while burning. If that is
the

 case,

   you
  
will have to burn it again.
   
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:34, Paul Williamson wrote:
 When I install mandrake by booting from the cd, there is an error :

 "error loading second stage ramdisk"



 How do I fix it??


 I downloaded the 'autoboot.bat file but where do I put it?


 Thanks


 Paul Williamson

 Contact:
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSN-Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ICQ# 83724504 (http://wwp.icq.com/83724504)

 Websites:
 http://paulw9.darktech.org/
 http://www.huntingtower.vic.edu.au/
   
--
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this
change.
 
  --
  Sridhar Dhanapalan.
  Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this
  change.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.




Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

2000-12-21 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

Hmmm.. And I've always held the pocketbooks in high regard. I started 
using Linux after getting one last year when they had Red Hat 6.0 and 
Caldera 2.2. The CD could be faulty, your CD reader could be faulty (or just 
"difficult " :-) , particularly if it's a DVD drive), or you could have some 
hardware combination that Mandrake doesn't like for some unknown reason.

On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 14:26, Michael Johnston wrote:
 I have the exact same problem...using the pocketbooks CD...
 My CDRom is a pioneer drive which works perfectly in win2000.

 This is not very reassuring.

 Michael

 - Original Message -
 From: "Paul Williamson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 3:34 PM
 Subject: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

  When I install mandrake by booting from the cd, there is an error :
 
  "error loading second stage ramdisk"
 
 
 
  How do I fix it??
 
 
  I downloaded the 'autoboot.bat file but where do I put it?
 
 
  Thanks
 
 
  Paul Williamson
 
  Contact:
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  MSN-Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ICQ# 83724504 (http://wwp.icq.com/83724504)
 
  Websites:
  http://paulw9.darktech.org/
  http://www.huntingtower.vic.edu.au/

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.




Re: [newbie] RAMDISK ERROR ON MANDRAKE 7.2 INSTALL

2000-12-20 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

Did you burn your own Mandrake CD? I had the same problem, and I later 
realised that I had a buffer underrun while burning. If that is the case, you 
will have to burn it again.

On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:34, Paul Williamson wrote:
 When I install mandrake by booting from the cd, there is an error :

 "error loading second stage ramdisk"



 How do I fix it??


 I downloaded the 'autoboot.bat file but where do I put it?


 Thanks


 Paul Williamson

 Contact:
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSN-Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ICQ# 83724504 (http://wwp.icq.com/83724504)

 Websites:
 http://paulw9.darktech.org/
 http://www.huntingtower.vic.edu.au/

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.