Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
... Thanks for the links above, I have gotten to the point now where the NVidia installer reports that it has installed a driver for my kernel, but that the driver conflicts with a module called rivafb. Can anyone tell me how to disable the rivafb module in my kernel? Thanks in advance, I think (I know I did) you can ingnore that rivafb warning. Don't forget to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the modprobe.preload as per the instructions on his url. Yeah, the nvidia installer doesn't check whether you have rivafb loaded, it just checks if the kernel has that module compiled. Since Mdk kernels do, it always gives that warning. When I got the warning, I checked that I wasn't using that module. Check in /etc/modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload for a 2.6 kernel, or modules.conf for a 2.4 kernel), but there was no reference to it. You can also do an lsmod|grep rivafb to check that it's not currently loaded. But you don't need to bother unless you have problems running the driver, in which case this is one of the things to check. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. As you know, necessity is the mother of invention. I don't know who the father is. Remorse, I guess. - Red Green Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 09:43 -0700, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: Thanks! My ritzy NVidia FX 5300 PCI Express appears to be working flawlessly. But for some reason when I run harddrake and select the video I get this: Identification Vendor: (null) Description: Media class: DISPLAY_VGA Connection Bus: PCI Bus PCI #: 1 PCI device #: 0 PCI function #: 0 Vendor ID: 4318 Device ID: 252 Sub vendor ID: 5218 Sub device ID: 38529 Misc But when I run the configuration tool the Nvidia GForce FX Generic driver is listed - which is option I selected. Is this something I should be concerned about? When I got the warning, I checked that I wasn't using that module. Check in /etc/modprobe.conf and modprobe.preload for a 2.6 kernel, or modules.conf for a 2.4 kernel), but there was no reference to it. You can also do an lsmod|grep rivafb to check that it's not currently loaded. But you don't need to bother unless you have problems running the driver, in which case this is one of the things to check. Plain text document attachment (message.footer) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -- Kenneth Rhodes 100% MicroSoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] RE: nVidia
Hi all, I'm fixing to rebuild the puter and have heard horror stories about nvidia. I have been using the download version of Mandrake 10.1, the powerpack. Some one said that the download version for club members doesn't have the nvidia drivers only the pay for pack does. Can anyone verify this, I don't want to get a mother board with nvidia if it isn't addressed by the OS. TIA, Maureen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 08:53, Maureen wrote: Hi all, I'm fixing to rebuild the puter and have heard horror stories about nvidia. I have been using the download version of Mandrake 10.1, the powerpack. Some one said that the download version for club members doesn't have the nvidia drivers only the pay for pack does. Can anyone verify this, I don't want to get a mother board with nvidia if it isn't addressed by the OS. TIA, Hi, Maureen. I'm using the nvidia video driver from the club powerpack download, but you have to be a silver member to get that. The smaller download pack doesn't have it. OTOH, if you don't need 3D acceleration (mainly for games) then the nv driver will be fine. If you mean a motherboard with an nvidia chipset, though, problems have been reported. You may find http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MotherBoards helpful. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4kY3kFAvMr/nNX8RAg3WAJ9lWL93l3XWBtYzsobDpGUrIQIopACbBBxV qyoE/fV7goaoMuIJRsbSy1k= =8STx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
You can download a very nice nvidia installer for Linux on the nvidia website. ed On Monday, 10 January 2005 10:53, Maureen wrote: Hi all, I'm fixing to rebuild the puter and have heard horror stories about nvidia. I have been using the download version of Mandrake 10.1, the powerpack. Some one said that the download version for club members doesn't have the nvidia drivers only the pay for pack does. Can anyone verify this, I don't want to get a mother board with nvidia if it isn't addressed by the OS. TIA, Maureen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
I have recently had a lot of trouble with an nvidia card - I think the problem has been with the card, not the linux drivers. However one think I have observed is the dissatisfaction with nvidia on their linux site. I have noticed the same with matrox (the other card manufacturer I have dealt with) but the ATI site seems to be quite positive. I don know if anyone else has any first hand experiance with the card manufacturers, but from my observation of their web sites, I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card my 2 cents worth... Hugh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I have recently had a lot of trouble with an nvidia card - I think the problem has been with the card, not the linux drivers. However one think I have observed is the dissatisfaction with nvidia on their linux site. I have noticed the same with matrox (the other card manufacturer I have dealt with) but the ATI site seems to be quite positive. I don know if anyone else has any first hand experiance with the card manufacturers, but from my observation of their web sites, I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I don't know about the latest cards from Matrox, but I have a dual-head G400 on this box (I only use 1 head, and the nvidia card is on another box). I have had not the slightest problem and I have used it with every version since 8.1. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4mP/kFAvMr/nNX8RAm/dAJ40AE0GRWL+fsrg1lo8Ie0AhA7NNACaA3Gw Kp9ySsiB08yZFiaeVB/vRaw= =ZheE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I forgot to say that my third Mandrake box has an ATi card - and I doubt if I will ever buy another. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4mQxkFAvMr/nNX8RAmytAJ4oXclcNAoXoVzvuT2TQslHnvux0gCeKlUL i5icf+b8Fsbrx6zsvk9aV6o= =p0nC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Monday 10 January 2005 04:16 am, Anne Wilson wrote: I don't know about the latest cards from Matrox, but I have a dual-head G400 on this box (I only use 1 head, and the nvidia card is on another box). I have had not the slightest problem and I have used it with every version since 8.1. Anne ... and I've been using the G450 w/o the slightest hiccup since about the same time. Glenn -- 05:23:36 up 1 day, 16:13, running Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586, kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk Registered Linux user #324360 This product is meant for educational purposes only. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead is purely coincidental. Void where prohibited. Some assembly may be required. Batteries not included. Contents may settle during shipment. Use only as directed. May be too intense for some viewers. If condition persists, consult your physician. No user-serviceable parts inside. Breaking seal constitutes acceptance of agreement. Not responsible for direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages resulting from any defect, error or failure to perform. Slippery when wet. For office use only. Substantial penalty for early withdrawal. Do not write below this line. Your cancelled check is your receipt. Avoid contact with skin. Employees and their families are not eligible. Beware of dog. Driver does not carry cash. Limited time offer, call now to insure prompt delivery. Use only in well-ventilated area. Keep away from fire or flame. Some equipment shown is optional. Price does not include taxes, dealer prep, or delivery. Penalty for private use. Call toll free before digging. Some of the trademarks mentioned in this product appear for identification purposes only. All models over 18 years of age. Do not use while operating a motor vehicle or heavy equipment. Postage will be paid by addressee. Apply only to affected area. One size fits all. Many suitcases look alike. Edited for television. No solicitors. Reproduction strictly prohibited. Restaurant package, not for resale. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. Decision of judges is final. This supersedes all previous notices. No other warranty expressed or implied. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
I have a dual head G450 and it is excellent, but, from the web sites it appears that matrox development for linux has stagnated (the linux drivers are beta, and have been that way for over a year..) My problems with nvidia - I hope are mostly hardware, rather than driver related. My observations are based on what I have read from the manufacturers support sites. It may just be that ATI cull anything less than complimentry from their site, while the other manufacturers allow any ratbag to express their view :) Ann, What are the problems with your ATI carded machine? Hugh -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 10-Jan-05 22:16 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Cc: Subject:Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I have recently had a lot of trouble with an nvidia card - I think the problem has been with the card, not the linux drivers. However one think I have observed is the dissatisfaction with nvidia on their linux site. I have noticed the same with matrox (the other card manufacturer I have dealt with) but the ATI site seems to be quite positive. I don know if anyone else has any first hand experiance with the card manufacturers, but from my observation of their web sites, I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I don't know about the latest cards from Matrox, but I have a dual-head G400 on this box (I only use 1 head, and the nvidia card is on another box). I have had not the slightest problem and I have used it with every version since 8.1. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4mP/kFAvMr/nNX8RAm/dAJ40AE0GRWL+fsrg1lo8Ie0AhA7NNACaA3Gw Kp9ySsiB08yZFiaeVB/vRaw= =ZheE -END PGP SIGNATURE- winmail.dat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 12:50, Hugh Dixon wrote: I have a dual head G450 and it is excellent, but, from the web sites it appears that matrox development for linux has stagnated (the linux drivers are beta, and have been that way for over a year..) My problems with nvidia - I hope are mostly hardware, rather than driver related. It seems to me that the problems with nvidia cards are rather like the problems with Creative sound cards - models that appear to be the same, aren't, so that they are not as predictable as we would like. I don't play games, so at a pinch I can do without 3D acceleration, though it is a great help for video processing. My observations are based on what I have read from the manufacturers support sites. It may just be that ATI cull anything less than complimentry from their site, while the other manufacturers allow any ratbag to express their view :) Ann, What are the problems with your ATI carded machine? I'm possibly being unfair, but Mandrake wouldn't load at all with the card in one computer. I changed it to another box, got Mandrake loaded, but when I went to check the graphics configuration it crashed and trashed things so badly that re-installation was the best option. It is running 10.1 now, but without proprietary drivers. I can do without acceleration on that box. Of course, many problems stem from hardware incompatibilities within the system, so maybe it's not the fault of the card, but my experiences were far from happy. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4n3gkFAvMr/nNX8RAms5AJ9GWUF1zuSPy90eePdfHLWVqnP8IgCeLZev kFp05JOmXTnKAAGgsPWo1dA= =q6ed -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
Your problems with ATI sound like mine with nvidia. My interest is in the CAD area, and I like decent 3D acceleration - which it seems to me, to something that the card manufacurers are not willing to provide to their linux users Combined with my ignorance of linux this leads to frustration on my part :( Oh well Hugh -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 11-Jan-05 00:06 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Cc: Subject:Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 10 Jan 2005 12:50, Hugh Dixon wrote: I have a dual head G450 and it is excellent, but, from the web sites it appears that matrox development for linux has stagnated (the linux drivers are beta, and have been that way for over a year..) My problems with nvidia - I hope are mostly hardware, rather than driver related. It seems to me that the problems with nvidia cards are rather like the problems with Creative sound cards - models that appear to be the same, aren't, so that they are not as predictable as we would like. I don't play games, so at a pinch I can do without 3D acceleration, though it is a great help for video processing. My observations are based on what I have read from the manufacturers support sites. It may just be that ATI cull anything less than complimentry from their site, while the other manufacturers allow any ratbag to express their view :) Ann, What are the problems with your ATI carded machine? I'm possibly being unfair, but Mandrake wouldn't load at all with the card in one computer. I changed it to another box, got Mandrake loaded, but when I went to check the graphics configuration it crashed and trashed things so badly that re-installation was the best option. It is running 10.1 now, but without proprietary drivers. I can do without acceleration on that box. Of course, many problems stem from hardware incompatibilities within the system, so maybe it's not the fault of the card, but my experiences were far from happy. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4n3gkFAvMr/nNX8RAms5AJ9GWUF1zuSPy90eePdfHLWVqnP8IgCeLZev kFp05JOmXTnKAAGgsPWo1dA= =q6ed -END PGP SIGNATURE- winmail.dat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
- Original Message - From: Hugh Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 5:10 AM Subject: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia I have recently had a lot of trouble with an nvidia card - I think the problem has been with the card, not the linux drivers. However one think I have observed is the dissatisfaction with nvidia on their linux site. I have noticed the same with matrox (the other card manufacturer I have dealt with) but the ATI site seems to be quite positive. I don know if anyone else has any first hand experiance with the card manufacturers, but from my observation of their web sites, I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card my 2 cents worth... Hugh I am experimenting with linux an a machine with an ATI Radeon 9000. I have had no problems with it using Mandrake 10.1, Suse 9.2, or FC 3. Whatever that is worth from a newbie! ~Lorin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Monday 10 January 2005 08:41 am, Lorin Jenny Pino wrote: - Original Message - From: Hugh Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 5:10 AM Subject: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia I have recently had a lot of trouble with an nvidia card - I think the problem has been with the card, not the linux drivers. However one think I have observed is the dissatisfaction with nvidia on their linux site. I have noticed the same with matrox (the other card manufacturer I have dealt with) but the ATI site seems to be quite positive. I don know if anyone else has any first hand experiance with the card manufacturers, but from my observation of their web sites, I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card my 2 cents worth... Hugh I am experimenting with linux an a machine with an ATI Radeon 9000. I have had no problems with it using Mandrake 10.1, Suse 9.2, or FC 3. Whatever that is worth from a newbie! ~Lorin Could any notebook users post their experiences with 3D accelleration also? Jarlath Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Monday 10 January 2005 05:17 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I forgot to say that my third Mandrake box has an ATi card - and I doubt if I will ever buy another. Argh, don't say that. My NVIDIA card is crapping out and I just went and picked up an ATi Radeon 9550SE; does anyone know of any verified problems/quirks with getting this to work under Mandrake 10.x? I haven't installed it yet so I could return it if necessary... http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=181931 Anne David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Monday 10 Jan 2005 10:29, Edward Holcroft wrote: You can download a very nice nvidia installer for Linux on the nvidia website. and it also helps if you follow the instructions put up by a user on this forum. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/nvidia.html The instructions certainly helped me! Excellent . -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake 10.1 Microsoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 00:43, David Reynolds wrote: On Monday 10 January 2005 05:17 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 10 Jan 2005 11:10, Hugh Dixon wrote: I am tempted to go ATI next time I need a card I forgot to say that my third Mandrake box has an ATi card - and I doubt if I will ever buy another. Argh, don't say that. My NVIDIA card is crapping out and I just went and picked up an ATi Radeon 9550SE; does anyone know of any verified problems/quirks with getting this to work under Mandrake 10.x? I haven't installed it yet so I could return it if necessary... NVidia has the best drivers for any video card under GNU/linux currently; most problems with NVidia cards either comes from overheating or the chipset goes south; if your graphics card has a fan unit on it, check that the fan is actually working and dust-free; GPU cooling fans can be purchsed elsewhere as well - made by 3d party companies - such as Thermaltake. I would not use an ATI under GNU/linux as the driver support is not there, nor are the other abilities of the graphics cards. The ATI drivers are problematic at best and do not deliver the full capabilities of the ATI graphics card. They literally ARE made for MS Windows or OS/X only. Experience is the best teacher. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free :: Crashing is NOT an option. Registered Linux User # 267497 --- Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits? -- Economics explained (Terry Pratchett, The Colour of Magic) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: FW: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 07:21 +1100, Stephen Kühn wrote: NVidia has the best drivers for any video card under GNU/linux currently; most problems with NVidia cards either comes from overheating or the chipset goes south; if your graphics card has a fan unit on it, check that the fan is actually working and dust-free; GPU cooling fans can be purchsed elsewhere as well - made by 3d party companies - such as Thermaltake. I currently have an NVidia GeForce FX5300 PCI Express running which will only run under the VESA driver under MDK 10.1OE with kernel 2.6.8.1. I have a Pentium 4 3200E CPU and 512mb ram. I gather from the twicki and the NVidia driver page that I may need to install a Linux kernal with SMB support for this CPU, Video Card, and PCI-Express support. However, the kernals with SMP support that show up on my graphic urpmi install program are 2.4 kernels with descriptions that they are for systems with 1GB or more ram. Does anyone know if it will hurt my system to install one of these SMP enabled kernels? The NVidia driver docs indicate that I can compile the driver against kernel source code with SMP support. I'm lost. Any help would be appreciated. I suppose I should have started a new thread. Sorry, if this is poor list etiquette. I would not use an ATI under GNU/linux as the driver support is not there, nor are the other abilities of the graphics cards. The ATI drivers are problematic at best and do not deliver the full capabilities of the ATI graphics card. They literally ARE made for MS Windows or OS/X only. Experience is the best teacher. _ -- Kenneth Rhodes 100% MicroSoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 05:50, JR wrote: Could any notebook users post their experiences with 3D accelleration also? Jarlath I have a Dell Inspiron 8600 with an NVidia Geforce4 5650. When I got it, it was so new that it was unsupported by NVidia's Linux drivers and I had to use the generic XFree nv driver from cvs. Support was added after about 3 months, and since then has been rock solid. My old desktop also has an NVidia Geforce2 and that's been rock solid as well. Most importantly, 3d acceleration works fine. I have rarely had problems with using either the RPMS from Mdk, or the installer from NVidia. NVidia has, without a doubt, the best drivers out there for Linux, with the most complete support, they have major clients in Hollywood who demand quality drivers for their Linux render farms. ATI is miles behind, and only occasionally show the will required to catch up. The 2D drivers they contributed to X are very good, but their 3D drivers are seriously lacking. As for the NVidia forums, yes there's a LOT of light and noise going on in there, but I think that's just a reflection of the relative popularity of NVidia over ATI. I suspect a lot of the problems people grouse about over there are PEBKAC's resulting from not RTFM :-) That and the variety of NVidia hardware out there, not all card manufacturers are equal, some make great cards, others cut corners and they play up under Linux. Cheers! John. - Forget that new hard drive, save some lives instead, donate to the Red Cross: USA: https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp UK: https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm Oz: https://www.redcross.org.au/Donations/onlineTsunamiDonations.asp NZ: https://www.banqonit.com/proxypage.aspx?boiid=205 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 18:34 +, Ian wrote: On Monday 10 Jan 2005 10:29, Edward Holcroft wrote: You can download a very nice nvidia installer for Linux on the nvidia website. and it also helps if you follow the instructions put up by a user on this forum. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/nvidia.html The instructions certainly helped me! Excellent . Thanks for the links above, I have gotten to the point now where the NVidia installer reports that it has installed a driver for my kernel, but that the driver conflicts with a module called rivafb. Can anyone tell me how to disable the rivafb module in my kernel? Thanks in advance, -- Kenneth Rhodes 100% MicroSoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] RE: nVidia
Thanks for this post. I dont have my card at the moment, but will keep this for if (when) I get it back. A set of clear instructions are near essential for me, and I couldnt find/discover anything that worked for me from the nvidia site. (I now think the problem is hardware, so this is not a linux matter at all really. Under windows XP the machine kept rebooting, whereas under linux it runs fine under VESA.) Changing the subject a bit, does anyone know anything of xi drivers? (http://www.xig.com/) I know suggesting a proprietry option may cause some reaction, but I just wondering if they are used, and to get some user responses. Hugh -Original Message- From: Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 11-Jan-05 05:34 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Cc: Subject:Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia On Monday 10 Jan 2005 10:29, Edward Holcroft wrote: You can download a very nice nvidia installer for Linux on the nvidia website. and it also helps if you follow the instructions put up by a user on this forum. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/nvidia.html The instructions certainly helped me! Excellent . -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake 10.1 Microsoft Free winmail.dat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
Kenneth Rhodes wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 18:34 +, Ian wrote: On Monday 10 Jan 2005 10:29, Edward Holcroft wrote: You can download a very nice nvidia installer for Linux on the nvidia website. and it also helps if you follow the instructions put up by a user on this forum. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/nvidia.html The instructions certainly helped me! Excellent . Thanks for the links above, I have gotten to the point now where the NVidia installer reports that it has installed a driver for my kernel, but that the driver conflicts with a module called rivafb. Can anyone tell me how to disable the rivafb module in my kernel? Thanks in advance, I think (I know I did) you can ingnore that rivafb warning. Don't forget to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the modprobe.preload as per the instructions on his url. -- Regards Dave Ashmore MDK 10.1 Official Mozilla 1.7.3 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] RE: nVidia
On Monday 10 January 2005 02:53 am, Maureen wrote: Hi all, I'm fixing to rebuild the puter and have heard horror stories about nvidia. I have been using the download version of Mandrake 10.1, the powerpack. Some one said that the download version for club members doesn't have the nvidia drivers only the pay for pack does. Can anyone verify this, I don't want to get a mother board with nvidia if it isn't addressed by the OS. TIA, Maureen I can say that I have built some 8 Linux based machines in the past year - most of them running Mandrake Linux. I used NVidia cards in every one of them (nothing cutting edge, but I have an NVidia FX 5200 in this machine, running 8x AGP), and all of them work incredibly well. I've had enough success with NVidia that I know that I will stick with them, if that makes a difference... -- Take care, Randall Hobbs Programmer - System Administrator - Acquire Technology, LLC Web Hosting * Programming * Software http://www.acquire-technology.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: nVidia drivers killed my Xfree?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:56:00 -0500 Eric Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |Hey, me again :-P, | I recently downloaded nVidia drivers from the nVidia website, installed|them with their kernal driver thingamaboper, and restarted my Mandrake 9.1|system to try and get my newly-downloaded Boson 0.7 (Isn't it technically|0.07? Ah well, typo on the mirror) to run smooth... and now X-free gives an|error. | I don't necessarily want help getting nVidia's drivers to work right with|my X-free (Wichi is, I believe, 4.3.0), but I'm novice to Linux... how do I|delete the driver packages from my system after they've been installed? I|used urpmi to put them in, as they were both rpms, but howabout getting them|out? Is it just as simple? | Thanx, | ES Eric, sorry to be the list meanie, but please don't hijack threads like this, it makes searching the mailing list archives very frustrating. 8( Please read the Mailing List Etiquette which can be found at the community Twiki: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette Also you can check out.. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/urpmi for information about urpmi, should get ya started 8) HTH RickS +--+ MandrakeLinux 10.0 official - 2.6.3-13mdk-i686-up-4GB gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 +--+ The Poems, all three hundred of them, may be summed up in one of their phrases: Let our thoughts be correct. -- Confucius -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAyjuuJo/ckCSqvmERAoe+AJ0YEC5rHAvuH1OR3PZHL7x+y4uB5wCdGO7E w+ZvOcWX/bL2huN5iDyWVxU= =6Jvl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: [nVidia on Mandrake]
On Thursday 27 December 2001 05:59 pm, you wrote: I agree. I have an Athlon 1GHz and I've given up trying to use nvidia's drivers. I too have noticed that there seem to be a lot of problems with AMD cpus and nvidia drivers. Because I have 1152MB RAM I use Mandrake's enterprise kernels. The 1541 nvidia drivers for 2.4.8-26mdkenterprise (from muo a couple of months back) work fine with that kernel, however supermount is not supported. Thus I also have 2.4.16.3mdk-1-1mdkenterprise installed (supermount works) but have been unsuccessful with any of the nvidia drivers so I'm using XFree86-3.3.6-23 without 3D accel for this kernel. I have read several references that stated we need to only use a (BEEFY) AMD-approved power supply. Especially with the faster/newer AMDs and video cards as they draw lots of wattage. Also with more ram, bigger/faster spinning drives, extra pci cards. I don't _seem_ to have any ps-related problems, but I only have a cheap 16meg TNT agp card and one pci card (cheap sound) and one isa card (my usr sportster 33.6 voice modem since my 56k pci modem uses Conexant's HCF drivers. They say on their website they will have Linux drivers for it by the end of the year but looks at calendar and shakes head...). I assume you've been through the nVidia drivers with a fine-toothed card. I also assume if it is an Abit mobo you have tried turning off AGP to see if that takes care of it. Read a reference that some of their older mobos wouldn't work properly with AGP - that they discovered this while developing their own nVidia-based video cards. Apparently it has something to do with power, as they say there are a handful of power supplies that overcome this problem (somehow). I've tried 1541, 2313 and 2314 with rpms, source rpms and compiling from the tarballs to no avail. I also compiled 7 different kernels myself and tried each driver with each kernel before I realised I was wasting my time. Ouch! The strange thing is that with most nvidia driver installs it all worked just fine and dandy (gears, tuxracer, tuxkart, etc) until I restarted X or rebooted then I started getting segmentation faults all over the place. Hey. I think I read something about this situation on (possibly) nVidia's linux forum. Could have been Mandrake User forum. It might have something to do with that depmod a command, but I don't think so (my memory is faultier than my computer's). To make matters worse, it appears that my monitor - Philips 107S - causes problems so I'm using a generic multisync monitor driver. The Philips drivers that come with LM work but there are errors/problems. I bought my monitor in 1994 - all I can use are the generic drivers. Which brings to mind something I've been wondering about since my first install at the first of the month: Does anyone know the difference between Generic SVGA and Generic Extended SVGA or whatever it is in the Generic Monitor section? So until I find a kernel that supports supermount and the nvidia drivers work with it, I'll have to boot between these two kernels. Not that I'm complaining... ; ) I hope you get it all worked out before you get tired of trying. Another question: My box (Mandrake Linux 8.1 Powerpack) says I have kernels 2.4.8 and 2.2.19. But when I installed (over and over) I never saw a place for choosing kernels. It seems I have 2.4.8.26 installed automatically? skinky I'll just have to take your word on that one! 8-P Later, Wes Gregg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 252649 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: [nVidia on Mandrake]
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 08:23:37AM -0500, Wes Gregg wrote: snip I hope you get it all worked out before you get tired of trying. Another question: My box (Mandrake Linux 8.1 Powerpack) says I have kernels 2.4.8 and 2.2.19. But when I installed (over and over) I never saw a place for choosing kernels. It seems I have 2.4.8.26 installed automatically? I think Civilme alluded to the fact recently that one needs to boot from the cd [#2?] that has those kernels. Search the past few days for complete instructions from him. -- Cheers, Stephen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: [nVidia on Mandrake]
On Saturday 29 December 2001 02:23, Wes Gregg wrote: | I have read several references that stated we need to only use a | (BEEFY) AMD-approved power supply. Especially with the faster/newer | AMDs and video cards as they draw lots of wattage. Also with more ram, | bigger/faster spinning drives, extra pci cards. I've learned so much more about hardware since I started using linux! (about 6 months). Trouble is, I bought most of my current hardware when I was still using windoze. I'm not sure what the power supply is (too lazy to pull the covers off) - I just asked for a good/suitable 350W (IRC) power supply. Jeez, I thought I bought decent hardware at the time but it seems that almost my entire system is crap. mobo: Soltek SL-75KAV w KT133A Northbridge and 686B Southbridge chipset - thankfully Mandrake have provided workarounds. cpu: AMD 1GHz - known AMD probs monitor: Philips 107S - driver probs. hd: IBM Deskstar DTLA 307060 60GB - known problems (something about not lasting all that long from someone in NZLUG). hd: Quantum Bigfoot CY6480A 6.4GB - no probs cdrw: HP 9310i which supposedly die after x # of burns. graphics: nVidia geforce GTS2 Pro 64MB - driver probs for 3D accel but thats a closed source prob. sound: Creative SB Live! 5.1 - centre speaker doesn't work (not even properly in windoze!) printer: HP Deskjet 670C - printing looks pretty crappy - not crisp. floppy: old? - no probs cdrom: Matsushita - no probs modem: Swann Speed Demon 56K external serial - no probs Sounds like I'm bleating - but I'm not, I think linux is awesome. And I think Mandrake are doing a fine job! When I get another pc, I will choose the components VERY carefully but I guess its the same old story, if the manufacturers don't co-operate with open source then linux developers still do the best they can. I think they're amazing with what has been achieved so far. | I don't _seem_ to have | any ps-related problems, but I only have a cheap 16meg TNT agp card and | one pci card (cheap sound) and one isa card (my usr sportster 33.6 voice | modem since my 56k pci modem uses Conexant's HCF drivers. They say on | their website they will have Linux drivers for it by the end of the year | but looks at calendar and shakes head...). Yeah, I had a 56K pci Conexant modem which I yanked out and replaced with an external serial modem. Can't even give the Conexant modem away (to windoze users) as it only works on cpus = 500MHz and everyone I know have approx 200MHz cpus. | I assume you've been through the nVidia drivers with a fine-toothed | card. I also assume if it is an Abit mobo you have tried turning off | AGP to see if that takes care of it. Read a reference that some of | their older mobos wouldn't work properly with AGP - that they discovered | this while developing their own nVidia-based video cards. Apparently it | has something to do with power, as they say there are a handful of power | supplies that overcome this problem (somehow). I tried turning off AGP in bios. I tried turning video shadowing and caching on/off in bios also, to no avail. I updated the bios a few months back. | Hey. I think I read something about this situation on (possibly) | nVidia's linux forum. Could have been Mandrake User forum. It might | have something to do with that depmod a command, but I don't think so | (my memory is faultier than my computer's). I tried the depmod -a command and rebooting each time after installing the nvidia drivers : ( | I bought my monitor in 1994 - all I can use are the generic drivers. | Which brings to mind something I've been wondering about since my first | install at the first of the month: | | Does anyone know the difference between Generic SVGA and Generic | Extended SVGA or whatever it is in the Generic Monitor section? Sorry, can't help you there. I wouldn't have a clue but now you've got me curious so I'll try to find out what I can. | I hope you get it all worked out before you get tired of trying. | Another question: My box (Mandrake Linux 8.1 Powerpack) says I have | kernels 2.4.8 and 2.2.19. But when I installed (over and over) I never | saw a place for choosing kernels. It seems I have 2.4.8.26 installed | automatically? During installation the enterprise kernel was automatically installed for me (2.4.8-26mdkenterprise) - obviously because of the amount of ram. But you can download another kernel and install it alongside your current kernel (rpm -ivh kernel 2.4.x-xxmdk.i586.rpm) until you are happy that everything is OK then remove your old kernel. It really isn't difficult at all but there are a few other things to do other than just installing the new kernel. If you need more info on this just post to the list or email me directly. Actually there was a lot of discussion and very helpful information (from Tom Brinkman and others) a little while back so its in the mailing list archives as
[newbie] Re: [nVidia on Mandrake]
1)Yes you are using the right Kernel. The OS is listed as a 586 because Mandrake by default loads a 'safe' Pentium/AMD/mmx kernel. You can make your own kernel with the simple GUI tools built into Mandrake, but This is as I thought... But that would be the first thing I've gotten right in a month of trying. compiling an AMD Athlon specific kernel has been known to cause problems. I've also been seeing hints that the Athlons (rather the mobos they go in) might not be the best for an install and forget it Linux. SIGH This is NOT a Linux problem. Some motherboard makers skimp here and there As I've noticed myself. I've actually cured a lot of my ills by upgrading the bios on my KA7 to current. which can cause 'noise' problems. Feel free to experiment, but I would stick with the default kernel for now. My wife saw that and told me I've done more than enough experimenting on this desktop. She has been waiting since 12/02/01 to actually use Linux. 2) Your X_Free version is fine. Good. Reassuring. Thanks. 3) You need to download these files: NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.tar.gz AND NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.i386.rpm. You do not need the source file. You can also download the Mandrake RPM files, but I have found that doing a 'make' using the above files has worked better for me. What about 2314? It is only avail in source, but has been up for a while now I think. I actually have the following files on my system (some in Linux since I've reinstalled, and some I actually thought to download in Windows partition - they may not be the right ones though) in no particular order: NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.i386.rpm NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2313.mdk81up.i686.rpm NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2314.src.rpm NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2314.tar.gz NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.src.rpm NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2313.tar.gz Follow the directions on page 22 of the nVidia instruction PDF to install the drivers. I think this is where I got so very confused. I have these files in a directory (/home/wes/NVIDIAfiles) but I can move them to another directory if I need to. Then follow the instructions on the PDF on pages 22-23 to edit the X-Free config file. I remember (more or less) doing the config editing when I did the 1541 drivers in a previouse Mandrake install (all the installs I've done this month are really running together. Just an aside, I ran Windows 3.1 for 7 years with no reinstall. Lucky I guess. Being to simple to run most virus programs probbably saved my butt there though. The latest nVidia driver version is 1.0-2313. I haven't tried it yet as I have been out of town for the past 3 months. It is probably ok. I haven't heard of any problems with it. I've nosed around on nVidia's Linux (etc) forums, lots of people having lots of trouble with all of them. I guess a lot of the people are like me (ie, most problems are operator error) but still some seem knowledgable. I think some of the settings in the newer versions have to be tweaked for the nicer/newer cards. Plus like you mentioned, AMD their mobo's have issues with this OS. I am getting the idea that that is causing a lot of the nVidia drivers' problems (for people running single or multi AMD cpus that is). Of course _I_ have an AMD cpu (the old model 650 mHz Athlon). I am remaining cautiously optimistic. I've thought about going back to the 1541's but I can't recall how I installed them and some have issues with them as well. I thought I'd try the newer ones first. Feel free to e-mail me if you have any additional questions. Done and done. I sure hope you don't come to regret saying that. But thanks in any case, Wes Gregg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 252649 Lost With No 3d/accelerated gfx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
