[newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
Stephen Kuhn wrote: Anyway, thanks for suggestions. Case there is a solution for other similar installations (like Netscape or like) for KDE, any pointer would be apreciated. Misko Why not just use MozillaFirebird instead? Looks beautiful mate. stephen kuhn - owner Stephen, because I need both a mailer and browser here. Don't know if Firebird and its counterpart Firefox (or like) are in sum, say to, bigger than Mozilla combo of v 1.6 and regardless of that detail, is that worth of using a couple of them instead one product? Any opinion? Btw, does MozillaFirebird has similar (say xft_version-related) issues as Mozilla combo? What about its new browser? Misko Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 23:09, Miroslav Skoric wrote: Stephen Kuhn wrote: Anyway, thanks for suggestions. Case there is a solution for other similar installations (like Netscape or like) for KDE, any pointer would be apreciated. Misko Why not just use MozillaFirebird instead? Looks beautiful mate. stephen kuhn - owner Stephen, because I need both a mailer and browser here. Don't know if Firebird and its counterpart Firefox (or like) are in sum, say to, bigger than Mozilla combo of v 1.6 and regardless of that detail, is that worth of using a couple of them instead one product? Any opinion? I don't like Mozilla/Netscape Mail - I'm strictly an Evolution-ist After I imported all my Windows fonts, my Netscape and Mozilla look quite a bit better than at first - and I made sure I changed the fonts in the preferences to suit my taste (or lack thereof). Btw, does MozillaFirebird has similar (say xft_version-related) issues as Mozilla combo? What about its new browser? MozillaFirebird/Firefox seems to just look damn better right from the initial installation - so I'm biased now...it's worth a download/install just to see what you think - and it's faster at loading/starting... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Has your family tried 'em? POWDERMILK BISCUITS Heavens, they're tasty and expeditious! They're made from whole wheat, to give shy persons the strength to get up and do what needs to be done. POWDERMILK BISCUITS Buy them ready-made in the big blue box with the picture of the biscuit on the front, or in the brown bag with the dark stains that indicate freshness. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
Paul Smith wrote: Why do not you consider installing the xft version of mozilla? http://www.scottbolander.com/mozilla-xft.html I did it right now and that version finally appeared ok (as fine as the 'original' v 1.3). According to the site, it has something related to anti-aliasing enabled (or something like that). Seems that was the difference with 'factory' build of 1.6 version. Regardless of that, I checked my KDE's configuration and it seems that anti-aliasing for fonts was enabled as default. What makes me wonder is why it didn't work with the 'factory' build of 1.6 ? In addition, you could import MS Windows truetype fonts (with drakfont), in case you have a dual machine (MS Windows + Linux). Didn't have it here (yet). But on another machine, I imported MS Windows truetype fonts (with drakfont) - before installing xft version of mozilla and new fonts did not help the 1.6 factory build to look better. I hope this helps you! Paul Anyway, thanks for suggestions. Case there is a solution for other similar installations (like Netscape or like) for KDE, any pointer would be apreciated. Misko Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 09:16, Miroslav Skoric wrote: Anyway, thanks for suggestions. Case there is a solution for other similar installations (like Netscape or like) for KDE, any pointer would be apreciated. Misko Why not just use MozillaFirebird instead? Looks beautiful mate. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- I LIKE TO THINK I AM A PICKER-UP OF UNCONSIDERED TRIFLES. Death grinned hopefully. (Lords and Ladies) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:32:33 +1000 Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following: Anyway, thanks for suggestions. Case there is a solution for other similar installations (like Netscape or like) for KDE, any pointer would be apreciated. Misko Why not just use MozillaFirebird instead? Looks beautiful mate. 'Fire*fox*', and yep, it's almost as good as p... uh, never mind. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Microsoft Palladium: The world is a fearful place (because we allowed it to be by introducing vulnerable designs followed by clueless security initiatives) so let us fix it for you. --Cringely Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
John Richard Smith wrote: Now I am not saying that the problem you are experiencing is due to this ongoing problem, but it may be, If you cannot get true trype fonts to work now maybe the problem is that they have fixed the ghostscript to work with the new fonts and in doing so messed up the others, I don't know, but in the back of my mind is a feeling that we are going to have trouble with fonts from now on. Maybe that might be the case. I remember that long ago with Red Hat 6.1 (6.2 or like) I had the similar problem but in the opposite direction. Those distros came with Netscape and I wanted to add some Mozilla to try it. You bet, although the 'original' Netscape looked fine on the screen, the new added Mozilla was capable to execute and run - but looked ugly. Certainly betweenM9.0 and M9.1 my printer had enormous trouble printing almost every font in kde properly, Haven't tested printing yet (at least seems that KDE's initial printer setup test was ok, as long as I remember now). Will check about. Misko Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On windoze 2k (forced to use it by my employer), I installed mozilla, then later netscape (can't remember why I needed netscape). Netscape stomped all over my mozilla settings. Trashed my bookmarks and everything (it grabbed the existing profile without asking me). I was quite upset. Don't know if this is related to your problem, but netscape does not cooperate well with mozilla on the same machine. Haven't tested them both on Windows yet. What is suggested by setup manuals is that Netscape 6/7 and Mozilla should NOT share users' profiles. But I think that is true only when you try to activate both of software in the very same time (i.e. the other while the first is running). Seems that the first program started somehow 'lock' the profile and the other program reports that a specific profile can't be used. I find that resonable and, btw there's no logic to handle incoming email with two mailers in the same time, is it? The other problem might be with the OS. In fact, either Netscape 7.1 and Mozilla 1.6 use different folder paths to be installed under Linux (per default), so if you follow those paths there is low chance to screw up things. In the same time, user's profile(s) shouldn't be changed because they're located in *separate* user's homes. So I don't see reasons something like that to be a problem. Maybe, on Windows installations they *share* a part of 'Program Files' path and that could be a problem. Misko Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
JoeHill wrote: Nothing, just an a suggestion *if you wanted the TrueType fonts*. Does it mean that the 'original' Mozilla that comes with Mdk 9.1 does not use TrueType fonts? It looks just fine. Anyway, tnx for suggestion. Misko Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:56:00 +0200 Miroslav Skoric disseminated the following: I know that and in fact I did it once a couple of months ago. I did it as root but somehow it screwed up my user account's behavior that I couldn't resolve withouth complete re-installation from scratch. I don't understand what MS fonts should solve here Nothing, just an a suggestion *if you wanted the TrueType fonts*. First install cabextract: urpmi cabextract then download and install/run this RPM: http://www.orderinchaos.org/msttcorefonts-bootstrap-0.1-4brs.noarch.rpm ...then just sit back and watch the magic! Would you be so kind to give me some details on what these two are supposed to do. I still do not understand what the problem is, because the 'original' (but a bit outdated) Mozilla 1.3 looks fine on my screen. It looks to me that whatever is installed onto the original setup of Mdk 9.1 looks poor although being capable to run elsewhere. These just install the TrueType fonts, not necessary at all, like I said, just a suggestion. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. Or ... He has weapons of mass destruction -- the world's deadliest weapons -- which pose a direct threat to the United States, our citizens and our friends and allies. One of those lies got a president impeached. -- Michael Moore Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
JoeHill wrote: I did not face any setup complaint during the installation and don't know how to make them look better. I tested them all within KDE and Gnome and it is the same (anyway I prefer KDE). ...must...resist...urge...to...slag...KDE... Don't understand what do you suggest me to do. As I said, additionally installed Mozilla and Netscape clients look poor either under Gnome and KDE versions of Mandrake 9.1 distribution. Actually, you can install the TrueType fonts (which MS did *not* invent, and has no right to claim ownership of) without a dual boot. I know that and in fact I did it once a couple of months ago. I did it as root but somehow it screwed up my user account's behavior that I couldn't resolve withouth complete re-installation from scratch. I don't understand what MS fonts should solve here First install cabextract: urpmi cabextract then download and install/run this RPM: http://www.orderinchaos.org/msttcorefonts-bootstrap-0.1-4brs.noarch.rpm ...then just sit back and watch the magic! Would you be so kind to give me some details on what these two are supposed to do. I still do not understand what the problem is, because the 'original' (but a bit outdated) Mozilla 1.3 looks fine on my screen. It looks to me that whatever is installed onto the original setup of Mdk 9.1 looks poor although being capable to run elsewhere. Misko Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
Per-Olof Litby - Reg'l Mgr - Nordic/Baltic - Java System Software - Sun Microsystems wrote: I've noticed that Mozilla ignores the KDE system font settings - it apparently uses its own font settings. The fonts used to display messages are easily specified in the Mozilla preferences, but how do I make Mozilla use the same fonts used by KDE for menus and other stuff? Suppose that you think of Mozilla that is installed as an additional software (not Mozilla that comes with Mandrake). Is that a case? I run Mdk 9.1 that comes with Moz 1.3 and recently I added Netscape 7.1 and Mozilla 1.6 in additional. Both of them I installed using their own installers and I used their default values. At the end it seems they both run but look ugly and with hard-to-read fonts and, in general, they look worse than the 'original' Mozilla. I did not face any setup complaint during the installation and don't know how to make them look better. I tested them all within KDE and Gnome and it is the same (anyway I prefer KDE). Misko Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
I've noticed that Mozilla ignores the KDE system font settings - it apparently uses its own font settings. The fonts used to display messages are easily specified in the Mozilla preferences, but how do I make Mozilla use the same fonts used by KDE for menus and other stuff? Suppose that you think of Mozilla that is installed as an additional software (not Mozilla that comes with Mandrake). Is that a case? I run Mdk 9.1 that comes with Moz 1.3 and recently I added Netscape 7.1 and Mozilla 1.6 in additional. Both of them I installed using their own installers and I used their default values. At the end it seems they both run but look ugly and with hard-to-read fonts and, in general, they look worse than the 'original' Mozilla. I did not face any setup complaint during the installation and don't know how to make them look better. I tested them all within KDE and Gnome and it is the same (anyway I prefer KDE). Why do not you consider installing the xft version of mozilla? http://www.scottbolander.com/mozilla-xft.html In addition, you could import MS Windows truetype fonts (with drakfont), in case you have a dual machine (MS Windows + Linux). I hope this helps you! Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
2004-04-18
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Per-Olof Litby - Reg'l Mgr Nordic/Baltic - Java System Software - Sun Microsystems
No, this is the Mozilla that came with Mandrake. Changing the fonts in DrakConf or desktop settings don't affekt menu and list fonts uded by Mozilla. /POL Miroslav Skoric wrote: Per-Olof Litby - Reg'l Mgr - Nordic/Baltic - Java System Software - Sun Microsystems wrote: I've noticed that Mozilla ignores the KDE system font settings - it apparently uses its own font settings. The fonts used to display messages are easily specified in the Mozilla preferences, but how do I make Mozilla use the same fonts used by KDE for menus and other stuff? Suppose that you think of Mozilla that is installed as an additional software (not Mozilla that comes with Mandrake). Is that a case? I run Mdk 9.1 that comes with Moz 1.3 and recently I added Netscape 7.1 and Mozilla 1.6 in additional. Both of them I installed using their own installers and I used their default values. At the end it seems they both run but look ugly and with hard-to-read fonts and, in general, they look worse than the 'original' Mozilla. I did not face any setup complaint during the installation and don't know how to make them look better. I tested them all within KDE and Gnome and it is the same (anyway I prefer KDE). Misko Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com begin:vcard fn:Per-Olof Litby n:Litby;Per-Olof org:A HREF=http://namefinder/NameFinder?nfquery=-s+23213view=calendar;Calendar Here (Sun Only)/A/P;A HREF=http://www.sun.com/2003-0930/feature/;IMG SRC=http://www.sun.com/pics/promos/B5_100r2.gif; BORDER=0 ALT=Sun/A adr:;;Box 51;Kista;;16494;Sweden email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Regional Mgr - Nordic/Baltic - Java System Software - Sun Microsystems tel;work:+46 8 631-1463 tel;fax:+46 8 631-1005 tel;cell:+46 8 631-1463 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.sun.com version:2.1 end:vcard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:24:44 +0200 Per-Olof Litby - Reg'l Mgr Nordic/Baltic - Java System Software - Sun Microsystems disseminated the following: No, this is the Mozilla that came with Mandrake. Changing the fonts in DrakConf or desktop settings don't affekt menu and list fonts uded by Mozilla. This can be set by entering 'about:config' in the address bar, look for 'ui font' or something like that. The UI fonts for Mozilla, Galeon, etc. are also controlled by your Gnome config, so KDE (bleh) settings don't affect it. One more reason to ditch KDE and use something more efficient and less bloated, like say XFCE4, eh Stephen? -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Saddam killed his own people, just like general Pinochet, and once upon a time both these evil men were supported by the U.S.A.; and whisper it, even Bin Laden once drank from America's cup just like that election down in Florida this shit doesn't all add up.. -- Billy Bragg, 'The Price of Oil' Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Mozilla fonts
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:42:11 +0100 Paul Smith disseminated the following: I did not face any setup complaint during the installation and don't know how to make them look better. I tested them all within KDE and Gnome and it is the same (anyway I prefer KDE). ...must...resist...urge...to...slag...KDE... Why do not you consider installing the xft version of mozilla? http://www.scottbolander.com/mozilla-xft.html In addition, you could import MS Windows truetype fonts (with drakfont), in case you have a dual machine (MS Windows + Linux). Actually, you can install the TrueType fonts (which MS did *not* invent, and has no right to claim ownership of) without a dual boot. First install cabextract: urpmi cabextract then download and install/run this RPM: http://www.orderinchaos.org/msttcorefonts-bootstrap-0.1-4brs.noarch.rpm ...then just sit back and watch the magic! -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ ...we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. -- President Dwight D. Eisenhower, in his 1961 farewell address Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
