Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 21:48:03 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Find it yet? Or, I could have a look myself if you could tell me what the thread was called? yup, found it, but now I remember Tom was advising it's better to just do a format and restore from backup. I'm not too sure about that, since you would be restoring a system partition, and as Tom said, it also depends on the type of File System you are using (probably the default...Ext3?). Anyway, his words quoted from the orig post: parted, fips, some commercial ones http://www.google.com/search?q=ext3%20shrink%20partitionie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8 Returned quite a few hits. As I alluded to before tho, I'd delete existing partitions and re-create 'em. Specially since you can replace from backup. That's an interesting question, tho, could you restore / from a backup? and what would you backup to, when the space used obviously would not fit on yer usual removable media type dealies. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 21:48:03 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I don't remember actually asking it to do this...could it be the default? When I did the install, I knew nothing about linux, so I wouldn't have known it was wrong anyway! Just a though (for both our situations), it would be a *lot* easier just to create a dir on / that was read/write for your user. msec would probably go and change the perms on it next time it ran, but there's a way to prevent it from doing that, can't for the life of me remember how...I gotta start writing this stuff down... -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Nothing is as simple as it seems at first Or as hopeless as it seems in the middle Or as finished as it seems in the end. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 21:48:03 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Find it yet? Or, I could have a look myself if you could tell me what the thread was called? yup, found it, but now I remember Tom was advising it's better to just do a format and restore from backup. I'm not too sure about that, since you would be restoring a system partition, and as Tom said, it also depends on the type of File System you are using (probably the default...Ext3?). No idea! Where do I look to find out? Anyway, his words quoted from the orig post: parted, fips, some commercial ones http://www.google.com/search?q=ext3%20shrink%20partitionie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8 Returned quite a few hits. As I alluded to before tho, I'd delete existing partitions and re-create 'em. Specially since you can replace from backup. That's an interesting question, tho, could you restore / from a backup? and what would you backup to, when the space used obviously would not fit on yer usual removable media type dealies. Sounds waaay too complicated for a newbie like me! Maybe I'll just carry on as I am until I run out of space, then buy a bigger computer Or, is it possible to move files that I don't use very much from one partition to the other, just for storage? Archives of letters to bank manager etc., just leaving the most recent in the usual space? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 21:48:03 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I don't remember actually asking it to do this...could it be the default? When I did the install, I knew nothing about linux, so I wouldn't have known it was wrong anyway! Just a though (for both our situations), it would be a *lot* easier just to create a dir on / that was read/write for your user. msec would probably go and change the perms on it next time it ran, but there's a way to prevent it from doing that, can't for the life of me remember how...I gotta start writing this stuff down... Once you've remembered it, and written it down, send it to me - and I'll archive it for you and send it back next time you need it ;-) Margot Got to go out and buy some wood now...my home-made Mandrake manual needs a second shelf! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
HaywireMac wrote: On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 19:26:53 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ df FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 49G 2.2G 44G 5% / /dev/hda6 8.1G 406M 7.7G 5% /home [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ oh, man, you did like I did and gave waaay too much space to /. I don't remember actually asking it to do this...could it be the default? When I did the install, I knew nothing about linux, so I wouldn't have known it was wrong anyway! 44 GB would come in handy in /home, at least it would for me being on broadband... ;-) Tom was sayin' earlier there is a way to shrink that, I marked the post, I'll go lookin' fer it later. Find it yet? Or, I could have a look myself if you could tell me what the thread was called? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 49G 2.2G 44G 5% / /dev/hda6 8.1G 406M 7.7G 5% /home [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ oh, man, you did like I did and gave waaay too much space to /. I don't remember actually asking it to do this...could it be the default? Yeah, there's choice to let the installer set the partitions for you. -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Join the content organization discussion: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/NewIndex Join the General Wiki Development discussion: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/DevelopingTheMandrakeCommunity#Discussion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
I used Easy Urpmi to add my sources and, following their instructions, did urpmi.removemedia -a first. This wiped out my mandrake CDs as sources. In case I ever need them, how do I put them back? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 17:58:22 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: In case I ever need them, how do I put them back? If you have the HD space, copy them to /usr/src/mdk1, mdk2, mdk3, then in MCC add each one like so: URL: file://usr/src/mdk1/Mandrake/RPMS Relative Path: synthesis.hdlist1rpms.cz this was originally Stephen's idea, and I love it, cuz now I never have to reach for the CD's if you do not have the HD space, it's the same procedure, but I don't have the exact info to enter anymore as I did as I said above. I bet someone who still uses removable media on here could copy and paste their URL and Relative Paths into an e-mail as easy as I could, though ;-) -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Death is Nature's way of recycling human beings. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
HaywireMac wrote: On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 17:58:22 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: In case I ever need them, how do I put them back? If you have the HD space, copy them to /usr/src/mdk1, mdk2, mdk3, then in MCC add each one like so: URL: file://usr/src/mdk1/Mandrake/RPMS Relative Path: synthesis.hdlist1rpms.cz this was originally Stephen's idea, and I love it, cuz now I never have to reach for the CD's if you do not have the HD space, it's the same procedure, but I don't have the exact info to enter anymore as I did as I said above. I bet someone who still uses removable media on here could copy and paste their URL and Relative Paths into an e-mail as easy as I could, though ;-) How can I tell if I have the HD space? On the old M$ PC I could click on MY Computer, select C, right click on Properties and get a pretty little pie chart showing how much space I had left. I assume there is an equivalent (or better!) somewhere in Mandrake, there is for everything else, but I haven't found it yet! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 18:30:37 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: How can I tell if I have the HD space? On the old M$ PC I could click on MY Computer, select C, right click on Properties and get a pretty little pie chart showing how much space I had left. I assume there is an equivalent (or better!) somewhere in Mandrake, there is for everything else, but I haven't found it yet! open a terminal and type df. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Death is a spirit leaving a body, sort of like a shell leaving the nut behind. -- Erma Bombeck Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
How can I tell if I have the HD space? df at the cli -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Join the content organization discussion: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/NewIndex Join the General Wiki Development discussion: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/DevelopingTheMandrakeCommunity#Discussion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
In case I ever need them, how do I put them back? Well, if you have broadband, you can set up main with http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php I bet someone who still uses removable media on here could copy and paste their URL and Relative Paths into an e-mail as easy as I could, though ;-) Here is what i had before switching: removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS ../base/hdlist1.cz removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS2 ../base/hdlist2.cz removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS3 ../base/hdlist3.cz -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Join the content organization discussion: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/NewIndex Join the General Wiki Development discussion: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/DevelopingTheMandrakeCommunity#Discussion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
Eric Huff wrote: How can I tell if I have the HD space? df at the cli OK, now I'm confused! This is what I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ df FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 49G 2.2G 44G 5% / /dev/hda6 8.1G 406M 7.7G 5% /home [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ My HD is supposed to be 60G, but 49G + 8.1G = 57.1G, and for the first line 2.2G + 44G = 46.2G - where's the rest? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
Eric Huff wrote: In case I ever need them, how do I put them back? Well, if you have broadband, you can set up main with http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php I've already done this - although I don't have broadband so it took a long time. Are you saying that everything that is on the CDs is also on main, so I therefore don't need to restore the CDs as a source? Or, as I don't have broadband and I have a 2-hour time limit for each internet session, should I restore the CDs as sources in case I need to urpmi something very large? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 6:40 pm, HaywireMac wrote: On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 18:30:37 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: How can I tell if I have the HD space? On the old M$ PC I could click on MY Computer, select C, right click on Properties and get a pretty little pie chart showing how much space I had left. I assume there is an equivalent (or better!) somewhere in Mandrake, there is for everything else, but I haven't found it yet! open a terminal and type df. Think of Disk Free Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 7:26 pm, Margot wrote: Eric Huff wrote: How can I tell if I have the HD space? df at the cli OK, now I'm confused! This is what I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ df FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 49G 2.2G 44G 5% / /dev/hda6 8.1G 406M 7.7G 5% /home [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ My HD is supposed to be 60G, but 49G + 8.1G = 57.1G, and for the first line 2.2G + 44G = 46.2G - where's the rest? Margot This is very likely the old chestnut about whether 1GB = 1000MB or 1024MB. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
On Saturday September 6 2003 01:26 pm, Margot wrote: OK, now I'm confused! This is what I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ df FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 49G 2.2G 44G 5% / /dev/hda6 8.1G 406M 7.7G 5% /home [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ My HD is supposed to be 60G, but 49G + 8.1G = 57.1G, and for the first line 2.2G + 44G = 46.2G - where's the rest? Margot Your harddrive vendor lied to you ;) The difference is whether a K is 1000 bytes, or what it really is, 1024 bytes in hexdecimal, 2's complements that computers use. So (1000/1024)^2, or 0.9536743164 * 60 gigs = 57.22 gigs. Your slight difference, ie, 57.1 57.22 is due to 'df' rounding off to make the output human readable. http://eies.njit.edu/~walsh/powers/newstd.html http://www.riva3d.com/kibibite.html http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
OK, now I'm confused! This is what I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ df FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 49G 2.2G 44G 5% / /dev/hda6 8.1G 406M 7.7G 5% /home [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ My HD is supposed to be 60G, but 49G + 8.1G = 57.1G, and for the first line 2.2G + 44G = 46.2G - where's the rest? Is your hard drive set to english instead of metric? (just kidding :) -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Join the content organization discussion: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/NewIndex Join the General Wiki Development discussion: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/DevelopingTheMandrakeCommunity#Discussion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
Well, if you have broadband, you can set up main with http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php I've already done this - although I don't have broadband so it took a long time. Are you saying that everything that is on the CDs is also on main, so I therefore don't need to restore the CDs as a source? That's what i was told, and haven't not found anything i was expecting to. Or, as I don't have broadband and I have a 2-hour time limit for each internet session, should I restore the CDs as sources in case I need to urpmi something very large? Well, then you'll be happier using the cd's or copying to harddrive. Since you have 40Gig+ , the harddrive would seem like the thing to do. -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Join the content organization discussion: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/NewIndex Join the General Wiki Development discussion: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/DevelopingTheMandrakeCommunity#Discussion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
Eric Huff wrote: OK, now I'm confused! This is what I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ df FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 49G 2.2G 44G 5% / /dev/hda6 8.1G 406M 7.7G 5% /home [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ My HD is supposed to be 60G, but 49G + 8.1G = 57.1G, and for the first line 2.2G + 44G = 46.2G - where's the rest? Is your hard drive set to english instead of metric? (just kidding :) Aaah... ...remind me...how many ounces in a Gigabyte? ;-) Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 19:26:53 +0100 Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ df FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 49G 2.2G 44G 5% / /dev/hda6 8.1G 406M 7.7G 5% /home [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ oh, man, you did like I did and gave waaay too much space to /. 44 GB would come in handy in /home, at least it would for me being on broadband... ;-) Tom was sayin' earlier there is a way to shrink that, I marked the post, I'll go lookin' fer it later. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Illusion is the first of all pleasures. -- Voltaire Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 15:00, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 7:26 pm, Margot wrote: Eric Huff wrote: How can I tell if I have the HD space? df at the cli OK, now I'm confused! This is what I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ df FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 49G 2.2G 44G 5% / /dev/hda6 8.1G 406M 7.7G 5% /home [EMAIL PROTECTED] margot]$ My HD is supposed to be 60G, but 49G + 8.1G = 57.1G, and for the first line 2.2G + 44G = 46.2G - where's the rest? Margot This is very likely the old chestnut about whether 1GB = 1000MB or 1024MB. Anne Not only that, df only shows mounted partitions, (as in how much swap?) -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Restoring Mandrake CDs as urpmi sources
On Saturday 06 September 2003 11:58 am, Margot wrote: I used Easy Urpmi to add my sources and, following their instructions, did urpmi.removemedia -a first. This wiped out my mandrake CDs as sources. In case I ever need them, how do I put them back? Margot Margot, don't know if anyone has answered your question yet so I'll add this from the archives: To readd your cd sources do: Put CD1 in the drive and in root terminal type: urpmi.addmedia --distrib cdrom removable://mnt/cdrom -- Regards Chris A 100% Microsoft free computer Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 11:40pm up 1:02, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.05, 0.07 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
