Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
--- Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Michael Scottaline wrote: While Kword can IMPORT .doc files reasonably well (if they're not to complex), I don't believe it can export in .doc format. The others do it well, especially Star and Open Office. Not to get too technical, but AbiWord will actually export in rtf format, but with a .doc extension -- Word can handle that quite well (for the things which AbiWord supports, so far). Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Actually I did the following trick that worked. I open Word documents .doc extension with Kword and then if I want (I use the Kword 1.2.0 beta now it's really amazing with many new features, try it if you like) and then if I want to send it to someone who uses ^+)#)dozes I choose Save as... Text and then I write the name of the file adding .doc in the extension. MSWord behaves as follows. It actually opens the file as text with courrier fonts and then asks the user to save it in the latest Word format. Note that I've been trying this with Greek language docs and all work fine. Cheers Dimitris Ioannou from Greece Do You Yahoo!? @yahoo.grhttp://www.otenet.gr Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 21:47:27 -0400 Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled intuitively: Yes, yes. AbiWord can export as either .rtf or .doc. It was kword that I was pointing out can NOT export in .doc (though I believe it will in .rtf). Mike, Sorry, what I said was poorly phrased. Actually, AFAIK, AbiWord cannot export .doc, but exports .rtf. IIRC, users on the abiword lists requested that the .rtf be given a .doc extension by default so that Word can import what AbiWord exports. It's a pretty technical distinction that won't make any difference in most cases. = Hi Randy, Not to beat this to death, but I tried this littl experiment just now. I opened a document in AbiWord (0.99.7) that had a .aw extension (from Applixware). Went to save as, and saved it as a .doc file [yes, it's one of the options, along with .rtf and a half dozen others]. I then closed AbiWord and opened StarOffice 6.0beta. Found the new file with a .doc extension and it was identified as a MSWord .doc (even at the little M$ symbol next to the file name). BTW, SO opened it instantly and flawlessly (SO can neither import or export .aw extensions). Try it if you have a 0.99.x version of AbiWord. Cheers, :o) Mike -- He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot. -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
Michael Scottaline wrote:
Not to beat this to death, but I tried this littl experiment just now. I
opened a document in AbiWord (0.99.7) that had a .aw extension (from
Applixware). Went to save as, and saved it as a .doc file [yes, it's
one of the options, along with .rtf and a half dozen others]. I then
closed AbiWord and opened StarOffice 6.0beta. Found the new file with a
.doc extension and it was identified as a MSWord .doc (even at the little
M$ symbol next to the file name). BTW, SO opened it instantly and
flawlessly (SO can neither import or export .aw extensions). Try it if
you have a 0.99.x version of AbiWord.
Hi Mike,
I agree, I don't want to beat this to death ;-). The version of AbiWord
I am using is 0.99.2 for Windows. If I save a file as .doc and then
open it in a plain text editor (like Notepad, etc.) it starts with:
{\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033
{\fonttbl
{\f0\froman\fcharset0\fprq2\fttruetype Times New Roman;}
Which, to me, indicates it is .rtf and not true .doc. It is possible
this changed after 0.99.2, but I don't think that was the intent.
I forget why AbiWord chose this course for the time being -- either the
underlying import / export library for word (wv, IIUC) cannot export
true .doc, or doesn't do it as well as .rtf.
Or maybe .rtf can be read, for example by more versions of Word than
.doc (as the .doc format has changed with some implementations of Word).
regards,
Randy Kramer
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Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
On 27 Apr 2002 20:14:13 -0400 Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled intuitively: Javier, Supposedly Kword, Abiword, StarOffice and OpenOffice can all do that. I've used them all with mixed success. Currently I would recommend OpenOffice...it's quite powerful and will handle MS Excel and Powerpoint files as well. It's on the 8.2 distro or you can get the latest build from www.openoffice.org. === While Kword can IMPORT .doc files reasonably well (if they're not to complex), I don't believe it can export in .doc format. The others do it well, especially Star and Open Office. Mike -- He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot. -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
Michael Scottaline wrote: While Kword can IMPORT .doc files reasonably well (if they're not to complex), I don't believe it can export in .doc format. The others do it well, especially Star and Open Office. Not to get too technical, but AbiWord will actually export in rtf format, but with a .doc extension -- Word can handle that quite well (for the things which AbiWord supports, so far). Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
There are several, but I've been happiest with Open Office, at openoffice.org. I should warn you that the Spanish version is on a slw server. Saludos, Warren Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras http://www.srcopan.vze.com/ On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 21:13:56 +0200 Javier de Lázaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi you all! I´m looking for a Linux word processor that is able to save documents as Word format so I can print them under Windows without loosing format. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
shane wrote: On Saturday 27 April 2002 15:22, Gerald Waugh opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: women! I love em!, but her box rules! ;-) the funny thing is i tried to get her to try linux for over 18 months. no! i don't like it the mouse feels all wrong. turns out it is my roller ball she desn't like. after 3 weeks on linux her only coments were wish it handled MSOffice files better, but it sure is fast! 2 weeks later she spends a full day at work with high ups at IBM (she is a senior VP in tech audit at a major bank, IBM listens to her, why don't they listen to me?) telling them they should push linux on the desktop not just server cause she hates the man hours wasted on crashes in windows, and comes home to find i rebooted into windows to use the scanner. she sits down and says why is my computer in windows? i _hate_ windows! and reboots. women.. ;-) -- Yes don't bother trying to understand us. I'm convinced we're a new species ;p That or we're just so highly evolved you can't hope to understand where we're coming from Shane. And fwiw, my own lover has driven me nuts too...mostly b/c she acts more like a man than anything else. Go figure. Femme -- Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 18:18:21 -0400 Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled intuitively: Michael Scottaline wrote: While Kword can IMPORT .doc files reasonably well (if they're not to complex), I don't believe it can export in .doc format. The others do it well, especially Star and Open Office. Not to get too technical, but AbiWord will actually export in rtf format, but with a .doc extension -- Word can handle that quite well (for the things which AbiWord supports, so far). == Yes, yes. AbiWord can export as either .rtf or .doc. It was kword that I was pointing out can NOT export in .doc (though I believe it will in .rtf). Mike -- He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot. -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
Michael Scottaline wrote: On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 18:18:21 -0400 Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled intuitively: Not to get too technical, but AbiWord will actually export in rtf format, but with a .doc extension -- Word can handle that quite well (for the things which AbiWord supports, so far). == Yes, yes. AbiWord can export as either .rtf or .doc. It was kword that I was pointing out can NOT export in .doc (though I believe it will in .rtf). Mike, Sorry, what I said was poorly phrased. Actually, AFAIK, AbiWord cannot export .doc, but exports .rtf. IIRC, users on the abiword lists requested that the .rtf be given a .doc extension by default so that Word can import what AbiWord exports. It's a pretty technical distinction that won't make any difference in most cases. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
FemmeFatale wrote: shane wrote: On Saturday 27 April 2002 15:22, Gerald Waugh opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: women! I love em!, but her box rules! ;-) the funny thing is i tried to get her to try linux for over 18 months. no! i don't like it the mouse feels all wrong. turns out it is my roller ball she desn't like. after 3 weeks on linux her only coments were wish it handled MSOffice files better, but it sure is fast! 2 weeks later she spends a full day at work with high ups at IBM (she is a senior VP in tech audit at a major bank, IBM listens to her, why don't they listen to me?) telling them they should push linux on the desktop not just server cause she hates the man hours wasted on crashes in windows, and comes home to find i rebooted into windows to use the scanner. she sits down and says why is my computer in windows? i _hate_ windows! and reboots. women.. ;-) -- Yes don't bother trying to understand us. I'm convinced we're a new species ;p That or we're just so highly evolved you can't hope to understand where we're coming from Shane. And fwiw, my own lover has driven me nuts too...mostly b/c she acts more like a man than anything else. Go figure. Femme The solution, shane is to discuss upgrading her machine either to 8.2 with more scanner compatability (if it isn't already) or buy a Linux compatible scanner. 2 incomes should handle that. insert apropriate tongue in cheek smiley Michael -- Seleznick's Theory of Holistic Medicine: Ice Cream cures all ills. Temporarily. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
Star Office... Open Office On Saturday 27 April 2002 03:13 pm, Javier de Lázaro wrote: Hi you all! I´m looking for a Linux word processor that is able to save documents as Word format so I can print them under Windows without loosing format. Any advice? Thanks in advance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
On Saturday 27 April 2002 05:21 pm, shane wrote: On Saturday 27 April 2002 13:45, Gerald Waugh opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: I´m looking for a Linux word processor that is able to save documents as Word format so I can print them under Windows without loosing format. Star Office or Open Office or if you really have extra cash, go to the codeweavers site and look into the crossover office setup http://codeweavers.com/home/ personally i am glad to have no MS stuff on my box (my wife dual boots, but only to use a scanner, her box, not mine. :) but the choice is there women! I love em!, but her box rules! ;-) -- Gerald Waugh : Registered Linux user # 255245 http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com Front Street Networks LLC - ph. 203.785.0699 229 Front Street, Ste. #C, New Haven, CT, United States of America 6:21pm up 37 days, 1:48, 3 users, load average: 0.95, 1.01, 1.15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Word processor question.
Javier, Supposedly Kword, Abiword, StarOffice and OpenOffice can all do that. I've used them all with mixed success. Currently I would recommend OpenOffice...it's quite powerful and will handle MS Excel and Powerpoint files as well. It's on the 8.2 distro or you can get the latest build from www.openoffice.org. Terry Smith Cape Cod USA On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 15:13, Javier de Lázaro wrote: Hi you all! I´m looking for a Linux word processor that is able to save documents as Word format so I can print them under Windows without loosing format. Any advice? Thanks in advance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
