Re: [newbie] help on port forwarding
Hello, Problem sorted. thanks. So far I was trying to access the WAN Ip from my local machine. I didnt know that if I do that it will loop back to the router admin page. Now I asked my friend to do that. it works fine. simple thing. But it was a head ache for a long time. Any way thanks for your help. Cheers Amala Singh Eric Scott wrote: amalasingh wrote: Folks, I am a mdk10.1 user. I am trying to access my localhost by typing my WAN IP address. But it just goes to the Router firewall page. I checked my router settings(especially virtual server configuration) all set correctly. Also confirmed with the router vendor. The vendor says we need technical expertise to forward the local server. Is that true? Do I need to have some networking knowledge to do forward even my http local server?? I use just default ports(80) Please help me. Cheers Amala Singh Why companies insist on treating their customers as stupid idiots (Starband is aweful about this too annoying people, wish I could get DSL here) who couldn't care less about things like port forwarding is beyond me, but if you find a howto as to configure your router it should be intuitive enough. What type of router do you have? Each one is different, but often they have a http-based configuration applet built in, so you simple go to http://[routerLocalIP]; and it's all right there. From that point there should be stuff on google that'll tell you how to forward ports. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] help on port forwarding
amalasingh wrote: Folks, I am a mdk10.1 user. I am trying to access my localhost by typing my WAN IP address. But it just goes to the Router firewall page. I checked my router settings(especially virtual server configuration) all set correctly. Also confirmed with the router vendor. The vendor says we need technical expertise to forward the local server. Is that true? Do I need to have some networking knowledge to do forward even my http local server?? I use just default ports(80) Please help me. Cheers Amala Singh Why companies insist on treating their customers as stupid idiots (Starband is aweful about this too annoying people, wish I could get DSL here) who couldn't care less about things like port forwarding is beyond me, but if you find a howto as to configure your router it should be intuitive enough. What type of router do you have? Each one is different, but often they have a http-based configuration applet built in, so you simple go to http://[routerLocalIP]; and it's all right there. From that point there should be stuff on google that'll tell you how to forward ports. -- Registered Linux user #: 366,862 Registered Linux computer #: 261,856 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] help on port forwarding
Folks, I am a mdk10.1 user. I am trying to access my localhost by typing my WAN IP address. But it just goes to the Router firewall page. I checked my router settings(especially virtual server configuration) all set correctly. Also confirmed with the router vendor. The vendor says we need technical expertise to forward the local server. Is that true? Do I need to have some networking knowledge to do forward even my http local server?? I use just default ports(80) Please help me. Cheers Amala Singh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] help on port forwarding
From: amalasingh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Folks,
I am a mdk10.1 user. I am trying to access my localhost by
typing my WAN IP address.
But it just goes to the Router firewall page. I checked my
router settings(especially virtual server configuration) all
set correctly. Also confirmed with the router vendor.
The vendor says we need technical expertise to forward the
local server. Is that true? Do I need to have some networking
knowledge to do forward even my http local server??
I use just default ports(80)
Please help me.
Cheers
Amala Singh
At a good guess it sounds like a router issue rather than a problem
on your computer. The Router needs to be configured to do the port
forwarding you want. You need the router manual for that, probably.
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Re: [newbie] help on port forwarding
Folks, I am a mdk10.1 user. I am trying to access my localhost by typing my WAN IP address. But it just goes to the Router firewall page. I checked my router settings(especially virtual server configuration) all set correctly. Also confirmed with the router vendor. The vendor says we need technical expertise to forward the local server. Is that true? Do I need to have some networking knowledge to do forward even my http local server?? I use just default ports(80) Please help me. Cheers Amala Singh Yes, you need some networking knoledge to do this, but not a lot of it. You need to know the IP address of your server. You also need to know how to set up port forwarding on your router. You may even need to know how to set up DHCP on your router to give your web server machine a static IP, or you may need to give it one in the network config on the web server. Not that any of this should be a big problem. If we knew what router you were using, and the IP address of the web server, it would probably be easy to tell you how to do it. You can probably get away with leaving the server on a dynamic IP on the local lan, as the IP address would only change if you had the machine powered off longer then the lease time of the IP address. Home routers are usualy set up for at least a day, so it shouldn't be a problem. The manual for the router should tell you haw to do the setup on it. Look for a section on virtual servers or port forwarding. You could also use the DMZ feature os some routers, but this is a last resort, as it removes ALL the router's protections from the computer, so it is only protected by its own firewall. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] help on port forwarding
On Saturday 18 December 2004 17:23, amalasingh wrote: Folks, I am a mdk10.1 user. I am trying to access my localhost by typing my WAN IP address. But it just goes to the Router firewall page. I checked my router settings(especially virtual server configuration) all set correctly. Also confirmed with the router vendor. The vendor says we need technical expertise to forward the local server. Is that true? Do I need to have some networking knowledge to do forward even my http local server?? I use just default ports(80) Please help me. Cheers Amala Singh Didn't you already ask this question? The answer remains the same. If you want people from the internet to reach your web server you must disable access to your router administration from the internet, and configure your router to forward port 80 to your local IP address. That is all internal to your router configuration. Nothing to do with Linux. Have you configured port forwarding in the router? How is it set up? Be aware that if you are trying to access your web server from inside your local network by entering your WAN IP address, your router is probably not going to forward the connection and will always display the admin page. So just because you see the admin page does not necessarily mean that other people see it. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] help on port forwarding
Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 18 December 2004 17:23, amalasingh wrote: Folks, I am a mdk10.1 user. I am trying to access my localhost by typing my WAN IP address. But it just goes to the Router firewall page. I checked my router settings(especially virtual server configuration) all set correctly. Also confirmed with the router vendor. The vendor says we need technical expertise to forward the local server. Is that true? Do I need to have some networking knowledge to do forward even my http local server?? I use just default ports(80) Please help me. Cheers Amala Singh Didn't you already ask this question? The answer remains the same. If you want people from the internet to reach your web server you must disable access to your router administration from the internet, and configure your router to forward port 80 to your local IP address. That is all internal to your router configuration. Nothing to do with Linux. Have you configured port forwarding in the router? How is it set up? Be aware that if you are trying to access your web server from inside your local network by entering your WAN IP address, your router is probably not going to forward the connection and will always display the admin page. So just because you see the admin page does not necessarily mean that other people see it. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Derek, 'Didn't you already ask this question? Be aware that if you are trying to access your web server from inside your local network by entering your WAN IP address, your router is probably not going to forward the connection and will always display the admin page. So just because you see the admin page does not necessarily mean that other people see it.' Derek, You are the man. Yes, I asked the question before. I am trying to access my web server from inside the local network only. I hope that that should be the problem. I will ask some body else to see that from outside. Tnx for the help. Cheers Amala Singh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] help on port forwarding
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 18 Dec 2004 21:47, amalasingh wrote: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head meta content=text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type title/title /head body bgcolor=#ff text=#00 Derek Jennings wrote: Amala, you were lucky to get your reply. Many people on this list filter out all html messages and never see them. Please post your messages in plain text - Mozilla allows you to set this in Preferences, and I expect Thunderbird is similar. If you can't find the setting ask for help - there's sure to be another Thunderbird user here. This and other common problems are discussed on http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette which is part of our Community TWiki. There's lots of useful information there, so bookmark it - the index ishttp://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBxGOEkFAvMr/nNX8RAlmJAKCJbUkHrfrnjImtawA5H+352vq42gCghm33 XmtSa3oKtJuibiUTG/q6P1I= =p9rT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] help on port forwarding
On Saturday 18 December 2004 16:47, amalasingh wrote: I am a mdk10.1 user. I am trying to access my localhost by typing my WAN IP address. Wrong way. In order to access a localhost you need to be using your machine IP address or localhost ip address, not the WAN IP address. But it just goes to the Router firewall page. I checked my router settings(especially virtual server configuration) all set correctly. Also confirmed with the router vendor. If it did not do that, I would be advising you to sue the vendor. The vendor says we need technical expertise to forward the local server. Is that true? Do I need to have some networking knowledge to do forward even my http local server?? If you want to run an http server with a router, you do need some technical expertise. Not much but some. Setting up port forwarding on a router is a minimum level task that has to be done to operate a server from the router. If you simply want to access a local http server, simply type in: http://localhost/; and away you go. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] help on port forwarding
On Saturday 18 December 2004 21:47, amalasingh wrote: Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 18 December 2004 17:23, amalasingh wrote: Folks, I am a mdk10.1 user. I am trying to access my localhost by typing my WAN IP address. But it just goes to the Router firewall page. I checked my router settings(especially virtual server configuration) all set correctly. Also confirmed with the router vendor. The vendor says we need technical expertise to forward the local server. Is that true? Do I need to have some networking knowledge to do forward even my http local server?? I use just default ports(80) Please help me. Cheers Amala Singh Didn't you already ask this question? The answer remains the same. If you want people from the internet to reach your web server you must disable access to your router administration from the internet, and configure your router to forward port 80 to your local IP address. That is all internal to your router configuration. Nothing to do with Linux. Have you configured port forwarding in the router? How is it set up? Be aware that if you are trying to access your web server from inside your local network by entering your WAN IP address, your router is probably not going to forward the connection and will always display the admin page. So just because you see the admin page does not necessarily mean that other people see it. derek Derek, You are the man. Yes, I asked the question before. I am trying to access my web server from inside the local network only. I hope that that should be the problem. I will ask some body else to see that from outside. Tnx for the help. Cheers Amala Singh Well if you are using the same IP address you sent this mail from (213.40.155.128 ), then I have already tried it. The response is no reply. The good news is that I do not get your router admin page. The bad news is I do not get your web server either. Before you ask. The easy way to enable a web server in Mandrake is to install the drakwizard package and then start Mandrake Control Centre. There will be a new server section in which is a wizard to set up an Apache web server. There will be a default home page provided. To add new pages insert them into the directory /var/www/html derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] help on port forwarding
Derek Jennings wrote: Well if you are using the same IP address you sent this mail from (213.40.155.128 ), then I have already tried it. The response is no reply. The good news is that I do not get your router admin page. The bad news is I do not get your web server either. Before you ask. The easy way to enable a web server in Mandrake is to install the drakwizard package and then start Mandrake Control Centre. There will be a new server section in which is a wizard to set up an Apache web server. There will be a default home page provided. To add new pages insert them into the directory /var/www/html derek To add to the story, though i see various good answers, yet however do not really issueing some vital details. Usually, if you would try to access your server *through* your WAN-ip you try to do some digital loopback request. So you do a request to your server to your WAN ip, your router sends the request to the DNS server of your host provider (if you use the net-name of your ip) else it requests the route to it from the routing-table. It notices that the originating IP is the same as the target-ip and shuts down the connection without replying. If you are lucky, some routers are smart enough to figure out that the request was originated from an Internal LAN ip and interprets your request as trying to access the router's configuration page (that's why you get a login dialogue). Most routers are not designed to do this and if you really would like to do that it would require some special settings if the router supports it, or you would require some trickery with another router that translates your WAN-ip to the IP of your host-server. So in a lot of cases, you generally can reach your own server only by using it's LAN address from within your own LAN. I read something about browsing to the http://localhost. However, this only works on the machine you run the server on. If this is however another machine within your LAN it would be better just to type in the ip-address of that machine. Until so far this is only regarding internal traffic issues. Now for external traffic (can people outside reach your server?): Good forwarding is being done through the Network Address Transalation table (NAT, NAPT or some vendors refer to Virtual Servers). These configurations can mostly be found inside the routers. Important things to know: outport: the port that broadcasts (listens to incoming request from the outside world) out-ip:usually this is 0.0.0.0 (WAN and open to everyone) inport:The port your local server runs on in-ip:Ip address of the computer, the server runs on. The inport and outport do not necessarily have to be the same, specially if you would like to cloak a commonly known port you can change it. (E.g. port 21 is usually ftp. You can run an FTP server on your local LAN-ip at port 21, however you can tell your router to accept ftp-incoming requests on a totally different port, so you make your server not so obvious to find) Hope this helped a bit. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] help on port forwarding
Is your webserver on the same internal network as your localhost or on DMZ, which means on a separate network? If it is on a separate network you have to bridge the 2 networks. I am using IPCop as firewall and my servers are on DMZ, so I have to put the internal IP addresses and hostnames of my servers in the /etc/hosts file of the firewall for the two networks to talk to each other. Then you can type in either the server's internal IP address or its hostname. Hope this helps! For the world to see your webserver, you have to have portforwarding port 80 from your external IP address to the internal webserver IP address. Cheers!!! J.T. From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] help on port forwarding Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:47:04 + On Saturday 18 December 2004 21:47, amalasingh wrote: Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 18 December 2004 17:23, amalasingh wrote: Folks, I am a mdk10.1 user. I am trying to access my localhost by typing my WAN IP address. But it just goes to the Router firewall page. I checked my router settings(especially virtual server configuration) all set correctly. Also confirmed with the router vendor. The vendor says we need technical expertise to forward the local server. Is that true? Do I need to have some networking knowledge to do forward even my http local server?? I use just default ports(80) Please help me. Cheers Amala Singh Didn't you already ask this question? The answer remains the same. If you want people from the internet to reach your web server you must disable access to your router administration from the internet, and configure your router to forward port 80 to your local IP address. That is all internal to your router configuration. Nothing to do with Linux. Have you configured port forwarding in the router? How is it set up? Be aware that if you are trying to access your web server from inside your local network by entering your WAN IP address, your router is probably not going to forward the connection and will always display the admin page. So just because you see the admin page does not necessarily mean that other people see it. derek Derek, You are the man. Yes, I asked the question before. I am trying to access my web server from inside the local network only. I hope that that should be the problem. I will ask some body else to see that from outside. Tnx for the help. Cheers Amala Singh Well if you are using the same IP address you sent this mail from (213.40.155.128 ), then I have already tried it. The response is no reply. The good news is that I do not get your router admin page. The bad news is I do not get your web server either. Before you ask. The easy way to enable a web server in Mandrake is to install the drakwizard package and then start Mandrake Control Centre. There will be a new server section in which is a wizard to set up an Apache web server. There will be a default home page provided. To add new pages insert them into the directory /var/www/html derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] help on port forwarding
On Saturday 18 December 2004 17:23, amalasingh wrote: Folks, I am a mdk10.1 user. I am trying to access my localhost by typing my WAN IP address. But it just goes to the Router firewall page. I checked my router settings(especially virtual server configuration) all set correctly. Also confirmed with the router vendor. The vendor says we need technical expertise to forward the local server. Is that true? Do I need to have some networking knowledge to do forward even my http local server?? I use just default ports(80) Please help me. Cheers Amala Singh Didn't you already ask this question? The answer remains the same. If you want people from the internet to reach your web server you must disable access to your router administration from the internet, and configure your router to forward port 80 to your local IP address. That is all internal to your router configuration. Nothing to do with Linux. Have you configured port forwarding in the router? How is it set up? Be aware that if you are trying to access your web server from inside your local network by entering your WAN IP address, your router is probably not going to forward the connection and will always display the admin page. So just because you see the admin page does not necessarily mean that other people see it. derek On other thing to keep in mind - your ISP may block incomming port 80 connections at his routers. This is becomming more common. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
