Re: [newbie] nautilus as desktop manager
Please forgive me if you recieved multiple copies of this email accidentally. I have been looking for a way to disable Nautilus as my desktop manager. Everyone has been telling me that it is in the Nautilus preferences (which I thought as well), but it doesn't seem to be in the preferences in my version (1.0.3-3mdk) from Mandrake Freq2. I am currently using gnome with sawfish and would like more control of my desktop environment through these applications. -Paul Rodríguez On 07 Aug 2001 11:02:48 -0300, Nicolás Gómez wrote: open the nautilus browser in the last menu from left to right (is a drawing like a diamond) then... go to preferences and disable the option Choose Nautilus to draw my desktop... or something like that - Original Message - From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]; newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] nautilus as desktop manager On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 03:23, Paul wrote: It was Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:40:40 +1000 when Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I haven't used Nautilus in a while, but I vaguely recall an option for this existing in Nautilus' preferences. I recall it is nautilus --nodesktop. Just tried it: that's it. Paul The problem here is that when you start GNOME, Nautilus will load automatically to manage the desktop. There is no opportunity to enter the --nodesktop flag. The flag will only work if Nautilus is not already loaded (and hence not managing the desktop). To control how Nautilus behaves at GNOME startup, you need to change the preferences setting. On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:50, paul rodrguez wrote: I chose to have nautilus run as my desktop manager during the initial setup of my LM 8 freq2 gnome system. Now it seems neither gnome nor nautilus are fully in control of my desktop, the icons appear as blank files and i can't change the background image. I would like to take off nautilus' control of the desktop, how can I set this? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson -- Ideally, couples need three lives; one for him, one for her, and one for them together. Jacqueline Bisset http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.2 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care ** -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] nautilus as desktop manager
I had a little problem understanding the instructions posted to the list, until I realized that you must change the preferences to advanced and then click preferances. The advanced option is the triangle that one post spoke of. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 paul rodríguez wrote: Please forgive me if you recieved multiple copies of this email accidentally. I have been looking for a way to disable Nautilus as my desktop manager. Everyone has been telling me that it is in the Nautilus preferences (which I thought as well), but it doesn't seem to be in the preferences in my version (1.0.3-3mdk) from Mandrake Freq2. I am currently using gnome with sawfish and would like more control of my desktop environment through these applications. -Paul Rodríguez On 07 Aug 2001 11:02:48 -0300, Nicolás Gómez wrote: open the nautilus browser in the last menu from left to right (is a drawing like a diamond) then... go to preferences and disable the option Choose Nautilus to draw my desktop... or something like that - Original Message - From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]; newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] nautilus as desktop manager On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 03:23, Paul wrote: It was Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:40:40 +1000 when Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I haven't used Nautilus in a while, but I vaguely recall an option for this existing in Nautilus' preferences. I recall it is nautilus --nodesktop. Just tried it: that's it. Paul The problem here is that when you start GNOME, Nautilus will load automatically to manage the desktop. There is no opportunity to enter the --nodesktop flag. The flag will only work if Nautilus is not already loaded (and hence not managing the desktop). To control how Nautilus behaves at GNOME startup, you need to change the preferences setting. On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:50, paul rodrguez wrote: I chose to have nautilus run as my desktop manager during the initial setup of my LM 8 freq2 gnome system. Now it seems neither gnome nor nautilus are fully in control of my desktop, the icons appear as blank files and i can't change the background image. I would like to take off nautilus' control of the desktop, how can I set this? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson -- Ideally, couples need three lives; one for him, one for her, and one for them together. Jacqueline Bisset http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.2 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care ** -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] nautilus as desktop manager [not resolved]
I'm so sorry. I appear to have been careless and premature. Nope,, not resolved. Whereas Gnome can now set the background (it couldn't before), I still get two sets of icons overlapping each other, one with pretty pictures, the other with default, no icon to display ugly ones). Anybody know what is going on, is this gnome/sawfish and nautilus both doing there job at the same time or something else. Soryy to bother, thanks for the help, everyone! -Paul Rodríguez On 08 Aug 2001 12:42:37 -0400, paul rodríguez wrote: The preferences are set to advanced but there is still no option in my Nautilus preferences to stop managing the desktop. But I did find a work-arround! Yes! I went to /home/user/.nautilus and deleted the file called first-time-flag this is a file which let Nautilus know that the program had been executed before. The next time I opened Nautilus, it gave me the startup dialog again. Yay! Thanks, everyone! -Paul Rodríguez On 08 Aug 2001 10:49:03 -0400, Charles A. Punch wrote: I had a little problem understanding the instructions posted to the list, until I realized that you must change the preferences to advanced and then click preferances. The advanced option is the triangle that one post spoke of. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 paul rodríguez wrote: Please forgive me if you recieved multiple copies of this email accidentally. I have been looking for a way to disable Nautilus as my desktop manager. Everyone has been telling me that it is in the Nautilus preferences (which I thought as well), but it doesn't seem to be in the preferences in my version (1.0.3-3mdk) from Mandrake Freq2. I am currently using gnome with sawfish and would like more control of my desktop environment through these applications. -Paul Rodríguez On 07 Aug 2001 11:02:48 -0300, Nicolás Gómez wrote: open the nautilus browser in the last menu from left to right (is a drawing like a diamond) then... go to preferences and disable the option Choose Nautilus to draw my desktop... or something like that - Original Message - From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]; newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] nautilus as desktop manager On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 03:23, Paul wrote: It was Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:40:40 +1000 when Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I haven't used Nautilus in a while, but I vaguely recall an option for this existing in Nautilus' preferences. I recall it is nautilus --nodesktop. Just tried it: that's it. Paul The problem here is that when you start GNOME, Nautilus will load automatically to manage the desktop. There is no opportunity to enter the --nodesktop flag. The flag will only work if Nautilus is not already loaded (and hence not managing the desktop). To control how Nautilus behaves at GNOME startup, you need to change the preferences setting. On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:50, paul rodrguez wrote: I chose to have nautilus run as my desktop manager during the initial setup of my LM 8 freq2 gnome system. Now it seems neither gnome nor nautilus are fully in control of my desktop, the icons appear as blank files and i can't change the background image. I would like to take off nautilus' control of the desktop, how can I set this? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson -- Ideally, couples need three lives; one for him, one for her, and one for them together. Jacqueline Bisset http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.2 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care ** -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Help] Re: [newbie] nautilus as desktop manager [resolved]
Ok, really resolved now. Playing arround with Nautilus and deleting the /home/user/.nautilus/first-time-flag and then restarting the computer finally brought that preferences option back. I wonder why it was not there, but ever since I first installed my system it was missing, (and not because of the advanced setting), little bug is all I guess. Worked out now. Thank you very much to everyone who responded, you helped me see where the problem was and made it very easy to fix. I appreciate all the responses very much. -Paul Rodríguez On 08 Aug 2001 10:22:32 -0600, John Fleck wrote: On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 09:07:23AM -0400, paul rodríguez wrote: Please forgive me if you recieved multiple copies of this email accidentally. I have been looking for a way to disable Nautilus as my desktop manager. Everyone has been telling me that it is in the Nautilus preferences (which I thought as well), but it doesn't seem to be in the preferences in my version (1.0.3-3mdk) from Mandrake Freq2. I am currently using gnome with sawfish and would like more control of my desktop environment through these applications. Paul - On my Nautilus 1.0.4 open the preferences-edit preferences menu. In the left pane click on Windows Desktop. The first option at the top is Use Nautilus to Draw the Desktop. Uncheck that. Sorry if this is what you've already tried and the 1.0.3 setup is different, but I'm pretty sure this option has been there a while. Cheers, -- John Fleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] (h), http://www.inkstain.net/fleck/ _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Help] Re: [newbie] nautilus as desktop manager [not resolved]
On 08 Aug 2001 12:51:14 -0400, paul rodríguez wrote: I'm so sorry. I appear to have been careless and premature. Nope,, not resolved. Whereas Gnome can now set the background (it couldn't before), I still get two sets of icons overlapping each other, one with pretty pictures, the other with default, no icon to display ugly ones). Anybody know what is going on, is this gnome/sawfish and nautilus both doing there job at the same time or something else. Probably gmc (the old but still included gnome filemanager) and nautilus. Start gnome control center. (It's in menu System/Settings if you're using Ximian Gnome) Goto Session properties Startup (Section Session, probably last one in left panel) Go to tab Startup programs and click on Browse currently running programs (at bottom) If you have both nautilus and gmc programs listed here, we have found the problem. If you want only nautilus, mark everything with gmc in the name and click Remove (top right) Now save the session (original gnome has a Save session now somewhere in the menus. IIRC Ximian gnome doesn't have it in the Ximian menu: Then do this: in Session properties Startup see if Automatically save changes to session is turned on in the Session Options tab. Turn on if it's not. Now say OK in Control Center and exit gnome. If you find this all too complicated: it is. Alternatively, you can simply do it from a terminal: look at 'man save-session' and follow the instructions. It's a really easy manpage) On login, the problem should be solved if it is what I suspect. Otherwise, just ask me further Kind regards, M.
Re: [newbie] nautilus as desktop manager [not resolved]
Before Nauiltus came along, GMC controlled the GNOME desktop. Perhaps you can turn off GMC's control of the desktop in GMC's settings. On Thu, 9 Aug 2001 02:51, paul rodríguez wrote: I'm so sorry. I appear to have been careless and premature. Nope,, not resolved. Whereas Gnome can now set the background (it couldn't before), I still get two sets of icons overlapping each other, one with pretty pictures, the other with default, no icon to display ugly ones). Anybody know what is going on, is this gnome/sawfish and nautilus both doing there job at the same time or something else. Soryy to bother, thanks for the help, everyone! -Paul Rodríguez On 08 Aug 2001 12:42:37 -0400, paul rodríguez wrote: The preferences are set to advanced but there is still no option in my Nautilus preferences to stop managing the desktop. But I did find a work-arround! Yes! I went to /home/user/.nautilus and deleted the file called first-time-flag this is a file which let Nautilus know that the program had been executed before. The next time I opened Nautilus, it gave me the startup dialog again. Yay! Thanks, everyone! -Paul Rodríguez On 08 Aug 2001 10:49:03 -0400, Charles A. Punch wrote: I had a little problem understanding the instructions posted to the list, until I realized that you must change the preferences to advanced and then click preferances. The advanced option is the triangle that one post spoke of. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 paul rodríguez wrote: Please forgive me if you recieved multiple copies of this email accidentally. I have been looking for a way to disable Nautilus as my desktop manager. Everyone has been telling me that it is in the Nautilus preferences (which I thought as well), but it doesn't seem to be in the preferences in my version (1.0.3-3mdk) from Mandrake Freq2. I am currently using gnome with sawfish and would like more control of my desktop environment through these applications. -Paul Rodríguez On 07 Aug 2001 11:02:48 -0300, Nicolás Gómez wrote: open the nautilus browser in the last menu from left to right (is a drawing like a diamond) then... go to preferences and disable the option Choose Nautilus to draw my desktop... or something like that - Original Message - From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]; newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] nautilus as desktop manager On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 03:23, Paul wrote: It was Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:40:40 +1000 when Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I haven't used Nautilus in a while, but I vaguely recall an option for this existing in Nautilus' preferences. I recall it is nautilus --nodesktop. Just tried it: that's it. Paul The problem here is that when you start GNOME, Nautilus will load automatically to manage the desktop. There is no opportunity to enter the --nodesktop flag. The flag will only work if Nautilus is not already loaded (and hence not managing the desktop). To control how Nautilus behaves at GNOME startup, you need to change the preferences setting. On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:50, paul rodrguez wrote: I chose to have nautilus run as my desktop manager during the initial setup of my LM 8 freq2 gnome system. Now it seems neither gnome nor nautilus are fully in control of my desktop, the icons appear as blank files and i can't change the background image. I would like to take off nautilus' control of the desktop, how can I set this? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson -- Ideally, couples need three lives; one for him, one for her, and one for them together. Jacqueline Bisset http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.2 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care ** -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] nautilus as desktop manager
I haven't used Nautilus in a while, but I vaguely recall an option for this existing in Nautilus' preferences. On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:50, paul rodríguez wrote: I chose to have nautilus run as my desktop manager during the initial setup of my LM 8 freq2 gnome system. Now it seems neither gnome nor nautilus are fully in control of my desktop, the icons appear as blank files and i can't change the background image. I would like to take off nautilus' control of the desktop, how can I set this? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
[newbie] nautilus as desktop manager
I chose to have nautilus run as my desktop manager during the initial setup of my LM 8 freq2 gnome system. Now it seems neither gnome nor nautilus are fully in control of my desktop, the icons appear as blank files and i can't change the background image. I would like to take off nautilus' control of the desktop, how can I set this? -Paul Rodríguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
