Re: [newbie] win95 gone
If you've already got linux installed, and windows is in the mnt directory, right-click on it and say 'delete'(you might have to click it, too). If linux isn't installed, I'd do a low-level format and get everything off and then install linux. If linux is installed and windows isn't in the mnt directory, use linuxconf to access a local drive and find it--and delete it. If windows is a boot option, you can go into Mandrake Control Center(if it's mandrake) and then pick boot--once you are in your boot options, click advanced. Here, you will see windows. click it, modify it, and remove it. That's how I'd do it, but I'm pretty new at this. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I re-installed my computer and decided that I didn't want win95 any more. I was wondering how can I make sure windows is totally gone? Any idea's would be helpful. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours! Ignorance is underrated
RE: [newbie] win95 gone
Sorry to butt in here... are we all sure about this low-level format thing? im sure i heard civileme say that it can do more damage than good in certain circumstances. If you are going to stick with Linux and get rid of Windows im sure that the standard format in the Mandrake install process will do the job just fine. Just a thought, correct me if im wrong.. -- Jamie -- From: James S Bear[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2001 02:46 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] win95 gone If you've already got linux installed, and windows is in the mnt directory, right-click on it and say 'delete'(you might have to click it, too). If linux isn't installed, I'd do a low-level format and get everything off and then install linux. If linux is installed and windows isn't in the mnt directory, use linuxconf to access a local drive and find it--and delete it. If windows is a boot option, you can go into Mandrake Control Center(if it's mandrake) and then pick boot--once you are in your boot options, click advanced. Here, you will see windows. click it, modify it, and remove it. That's how I'd do it, but I'm pretty new at this. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I re-installed my computer and decided that I didn't want win95 any more. I was wondering how can I make sure windows is totally gone? Any idea's would be helpful. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours! Ignorance is underrated _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.
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Re Low Level Formatting Maybe somebody can clarify my recollection. Once upon a time, low level formatting was a well known and recommended procedure. (I'm bad with time -- maybe in the time period 10 to 15 years ago.) Then there came a time when the wisdom was that you should not low level format a disk, that the drive did not have the necessary hardware to allow a real low level format, and the low level format would destroy the disk (by doing something like erasing or messing up the timing marks on the disk. (Maybe this refers to a certain type of disk -- maybe this was early IDE drives??) Now, it appears that low level formatting is again allowed / recommended. Is this because: 1. There never was a real problem with low level formatting any disk? 2. Disks have changed again, and low level formatting is now supported? 3. Low level formatting has changed -- the procedure / software to do low level formatting is not the same as the low level formatting that was described as capable of destroying a disk several years ago. If there truly is a type of disk that should not be low level formatted, even if an older type, maybe we need to be careful about stating that. Randy Kramer James S Bear wrote: Civileme said a low-level format might do more harm than good if it was a potentially bad drive. However, this is the best way to return the drive to factory status. If it's a good drive, it does much good and is quite often the only way to restore a drive. If a person formats using fat or ntfs or ext2 over and over again, eventually your drive will come up as being non-existent. I've done this several times and the only way to restore it is doing a low-level format. Sometimes, as well, a Linux distro will not recognize a FAT partition if it is slightly corrupt or vice versa and the only way I have found to do get rid of it is to do a low-level format. I have found that doing a low-level format always ensures that the operating system will operate smoothly. I have never had it damage anything. I am only talking from experience, but I am quite certain that's the best education. It's a public list, there's no butting in involved. jim Quoting Adams, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry to butt in here... are we all sure about this low-level format thing? im sure i heard civileme say that it can do more damage than good in certain circumstances. If you are going to stick with Linux and get rid of Windows im sure that the standard format in the Mandrake install process will do the job just fine. Just a thought, correct me if im wrong.. -- Jamie -- From:James S Bear[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:01 August 2001 02:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] win95 gone If you've already got linux installed, and windows is in the mnt directory, right-click on it and say 'delete'(you might have to click it, too). If linux isn't installed, I'd do a low-level format and get everything off and then install linux. If linux is installed and windows isn't in the mnt directory, use linuxconf to access a local drive and find it--and delete it. If windows is a boot option, you can go into Mandrake Control Center(if it's mandrake) and then pick boot--once you are in your boot options, click advanced. Here, you will see windows. click it, modify it, and remove it. That's how I'd do it, but I'm pretty new at this. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I re-installed my computer and decided that I didn't want win95 any more. I was wondering how can I make sure windows is totally gone? Any idea's would be helpful. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours! Ignorance is underrated _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.
Re: [newbie] win95 gone
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:50, Adams, Jamie wrote: Sorry to butt in here... are we all sure about this low-level format thing? im sure i heard civileme say that it can do more damage than good in certain circumstances. If you are going to stick with Linux and get rid of Windows im sure that the standard format in the Mandrake install process will do the job just fine. Just a thought, correct me if im wrong.. -- Jamie You are absolutely correct. The basic rule of thumb is to NEVER do a low-level format. The factory default low-level format is often optimised for that particular kind of drive. If you do a low-level format from your BIOS (as they usually are done) you can destroy this optimisation. There is also a chance of damaging your drive with a low-level format. A low-level format should only be done in extreme circumstances, like if your HDD is on its deathbed and you are willing to take a risk to place it on life-support for a little while. The best way to remove Windos 100% is to use a tool like diskdrake to delete the Windos partition. You can then make a new partition in that space and format it with a GNU/Linux filesystem, like Ext2 or ReiserFS. -- From: James S Bear[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:01 August 2001 02:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] win95 gone If you've already got linux installed, and windows is in the mnt directory, right-click on it and say 'delete'(you might have to click it, too). If linux isn't installed, I'd do a low-level format and get everything off and then install linux. If linux is installed and windows isn't in the mnt directory, use linuxconf to access a local drive and find it--and delete it. If windows is a boot option, you can go into Mandrake Control Center(if it's mandrake) and then pick boot--once you are in your boot options, click advanced. Here, you will see windows. click it, modify it, and remove it. That's how I'd do it, but I'm pretty new at this. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I re-installed my computer and decided that I didn't want win95 any more. I was wondering how can I make sure windows is totally gone? Any idea's would be helpful. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours! Ignorance is underrated _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson
Re: [newbie] win95 gone
It was Wed, 01 Aug 2001 11:56:53 -0400 when Randy Kramer wrote: Thanks for the response! Ahh, yes, IIRC, MFM was the second type of hard disk available for the PC / hobbiest. (MFM had something to do with Manchester encoding, IIRC.) IIRC, RLL was another type of early hard disk (or was it just an encoding type). In fact it was RLE. Runtime Length Encoding. These disks would use tracks less than the usual width to get more on them and somewhat faster access. Paul -- Sharing what you have is more important than what you have. -Albert M. Wells, Jr. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.5.2 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
RE: [newbie] win95 gone
Civileme said a low-level format might do more harm than good if it was a potentially bad drive. However, this is the best way to return the drive to factory status. If it's a good drive, it does much good and is quite often the only way to restore a drive. If a person formats using fat or ntfs or ext2 over and over again, eventually your drive will come up as being non-existent. I've done this several times and the only way to restore it is doing a low-level format. Sometimes, as well, a Linux distro will not recognize a FAT partition if it is slightly corrupt or vice versa and the only way I have found to do get rid of it is to do a low-level format. I have found that doing a low-level format always ensures that the operating system will operate smoothly. I have never had it damage anything. I am only talking from experience, but I am quite certain that's the best education. It's a public list, there's no butting in involved. jim Quoting Adams, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry to butt in here... are we all sure about this low-level format thing? im sure i heard civileme say that it can do more damage than good in certain circumstances. If you are going to stick with Linux and get rid of Windows im sure that the standard format in the Mandrake install process will do the job just fine. Just a thought, correct me if im wrong.. -- Jamie -- From:James S Bear[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:01 August 2001 02:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] win95 gone If you've already got linux installed, and windows is in the mnt directory, right-click on it and say 'delete'(you might have to click it, too). If linux isn't installed, I'd do a low-level format and get everything off and then install linux. If linux is installed and windows isn't in the mnt directory, use linuxconf to access a local drive and find it--and delete it. If windows is a boot option, you can go into Mandrake Control Center(if it's mandrake) and then pick boot--once you are in your boot options, click advanced. Here, you will see windows. click it, modify it, and remove it. That's how I'd do it, but I'm pretty new at this. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I re-installed my computer and decided that I didn't want win95 any more. I was wondering how can I make sure windows is totally gone? Any idea's would be helpful. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours! Ignorance is underrated _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.
Re: [newbie] win95 gone
tazmun wrote: I can only speak for sure of fairly modern Maxtor drives, the smallest being 4.3 Gig. They do supply the utility from their website. It is included with their standard utility disk. However it is called write test there. I have run this test on several different drives with no ill effects that I'm aware of. It has successfully brought drives back that were previously unuseable. However I would not run it just as normal service, but rather if all other options failed. On mine the chief reason for this was trying to bring back a ext2 files system to fat 32 again the drive became unusable running dos fdisk. Possibly this is a different process then what was referred to as low level formatting in earlier puter days? I remember there was something called RTFM type hard drives.(Not sure about that abbreviation or name) and they did have some sort of low level formatting that was different from our current EIDE drives and of SCSI drives I have not a clue, but perhaps that should be addressed here too. Especially SCSI as those are more common in high end systems. Tazmun, Thanks for the response! Ahh, yes, IIRC, MFM was the second type of hard disk available for the PC / hobbiest. (MFM had something to do with Manchester encoding, IIRC.) IIRC, RLL was another type of early hard disk (or was it just an encoding type). Anyway, I think we're in the era I'm curious about -- maybe someone else will recall which disks were not supposed to be low level formatted, and whether there was a valid technical reason or not. regards, Randy Kramer
[newbie] win95 gone
Thank you all. I really like the linux comminity because I find people are always willing to help. I have learned much from all of you and have much to learn yet. I did a low level format on my 486 and this really wiped out the boot sector. Thanks again. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!
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Gone? Formatting the drive makes sure its GONE - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 21:02 Subject: [newbie] win95 gone I re-installed my computer and decided that I didn't want win95 any more. I was wondering how can I make sure windows is totally gone? Any idea's would be helpful. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!
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when you reinstalled did you format the drive? fdisk away all the partitions and reinstall mandreake ought to just about get rid of any sign of winders... On Monday 30 July 2001 21:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I re-installed my computer and decided that I didn't want win95 any more. I was wondering how can I make sure windows is totally gone? Any idea's would be helpful. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!
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Hi All! I'm useing mandrake 7.2. I was dualbooting win95. I decided to re-install and get rid of win95. win95 served me well for a long time BUT: I got pissed off with bsod. As well looking at upgradeing $ how many times does Bill expect people to upgrade at his prices? Ask me about AOL and what it did to my computers. Anyway thanks Jeff Reed I think the format/mbr format c:/u/q should help. This is what I'm thinking. I re-installed and used both harddrives as linux native so that win95 would be gone.Now my thinking is that if I put the win95 boot floppy in the drive and reboot the system shouldn't read it as it is no longer a system disk. If win95 is on the computer like down in mbr then it will read it. what I'm concerned about is that after useing AOL I formated drive C: and reinstalled win95 (this was months ago) I kept finding a rockwell modem driver when going to install my supra express modem. This tell me that formating doesn't always get rid of everything. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!
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I re-installed my computer and decided that I didn't want win95 any more. I was wondering how can I make sure windows is totally gone? Any idea's would be helpful. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!
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On Monday 30 July 2001 21:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I re-installed my computer and decided that I didn't want win95 any more. I was wondering how can I make sure windows is totally gone? Any idea's would be helpful. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours! pop in a 95/98 boot (floppy) disk and boot up. command line...two things: format /mbr format c: /u/q bye bye windows :) good for you -- //- Jeff Reed //- One of those Linux People //- Metro West Boston Linux User Group //- [EMAIL PROTECTED] //- (508)792-6070 //- http://www.linuxbusca.com //- http://www.blu.org //- http://www.wlug.org
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Do you mean that you installed Linux on a dual boot, and now you want to get rid of the Windows partition and use it for Linux. If so, what distro are you using? If you want a clear detailed answer, you need to ask a clear and detailed question. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I re-installed my computer and decided that I didn't want win95 any more. I was wondering how can I make sure windows is totally gone? Any idea's would be helpful. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!
