RE: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
I think you'll find that if you do a fresh install of 9.2 and immediately apply all the bugfixes and updates before doing anything else, that you will find it to be a very sweet distro. Indeed! The basic overview has been very impressive so far. However, I have yet to really put it to the test. One more quick question: Is there something wrong with the USA 9.2 contrib mirrors? I can't seem to get them to work =/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
Is there something wrong with the USA 9.2 contrib mirrors? I can't seem to get them to work =/ Did you remove the bad ones before adding a different one? eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
-Original Message- From: Eric Huff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now? Is there something wrong with the USA 9.2 contrib mirrors? I can't seem to get them to work =/ Did you remove the bad ones before adding a different one? If urpmi.removemedia -a removes them all, then yes. I did that then put in main, contrib, update, and plf thru Easy Urpmi. Tried to use secsup for main, contrib, and update... maybe easy urpmi is messed? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
On Mon, 2004-01-05 at 16:58, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Monday 05 January 2004 12:12 pm, Paul Harrison wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tango Echo wrote: | Hi all, | | What have your experiences been with Mandrake 9.2? For me, 9.2 worked much more out of the box than 9.1. Sound, digital camera, printer all worked more or less straight away, whereas 9.1 took a lot of fiddling. Was worth it...for /me/ at least. I might be unusual. Paul Paul: How much updating was necessary? Yeah, I'm still on dialup (at 44K), and downloading massive files is not a pleasant task. -- cmg Carroll, I'm on dial-up half time and maintain several systems with a CD of updates I make from urpmi... --noclean when I'm on the fat pipe. Simple to add the CD as a source or copy to HDD and add that. Last I looked it had several hundred megs on it. If you send me your snail-mail address privately, I'll gladly send you the latest. -- N. B. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
i just ran tuxracer to check and it was fine, though i did think that the screen seemed a litle flickery, as though the refresh rate went down, i'm using the driver installed using the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run package from nvidia, bascule On Tuesday 06 Jan 2004 2:00 pm, Tango Echo wrote: Basclue, I see you have the same card as I do - Nivdia GFX 5600 - did you run into any problems with this. I didn't get a chance to fully test the 3D abbilites, but I did install the nvidia driver from nvidia and attempted to start tuxracer. It didn't go. In 9.1 I had a permissions problem where I would occationally have to chmod 666 /dev/nvidia* to get it to work. -- Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz smiled very slowly. This was done not so much for effect as because he was trying to remember the sequence of muscle movements. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
On Monday 05 January 2004 07:43 am, Tango Echo wrote: Hi all, What have your experiences been with Mandrake 9.2? I recently purchased a new hard drive and was debating if I should put 9.1 (my current one) or 9.2. I know lots of people had complained about 9.2 initially, but perhaps most of the bugs have been worked out? Are there any common bugs I should know about? I just returned from a break so I'd be interested what all of you think I think you'll find that if you do a fresh install of 9.2 and immediately apply all the bugfixes and updates before doing anything else, that you will find it to be a very sweet distro. Make sure that you leave an update repository as a urpmi source, so if you install something new, the newest package will be installed if available. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
On Monday 05 Jan 2004 H:12, Paul Harrison wrote: 9.2 is a bit too much AOL-user-ish with way too much control removed so far its messed up some of my hardware settings eg at this time 9.2 cant seem to tell the diff. between a (usb)scanner.. (pci)tvcard.. and (usb)webcam ?!?!?! otherwise its been fine Tango Echo wrote: | Hi all, | | What have your experiences been with Mandrake 9.2? For me, 9.2 worked much more out of the box than 9.1. Sound, digital camera, printer all worked more or less straight away, whereas 9.1 took a lot of fiddling. Was worth it...for /me/ at least. I might be unusual. Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
On Mon, 2004-01-05 at 07:43, Tango Echo wrote: Hi all, What have your experiences been with Mandrake 9.2? I recently purchased a new hard drive and was debating if I should put 9.1 (my current one) or 9.2. I know lots of people had complained about 9.2 initially, but perhaps most of the bugs have been worked out? Are there any common bugs I should know about? I just returned from a break so I'd be interested what all of you think Thanks Tango I like 9.2, haven't had any major problems. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
On Monday 05 January 2004 12:12 pm, Paul Harrison wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tango Echo wrote: | Hi all, | | What have your experiences been with Mandrake 9.2? For me, 9.2 worked much more out of the box than 9.1. Sound, digital camera, printer all worked more or less straight away, whereas 9.1 took a lot of fiddling. Was worth it...for /me/ at least. I might be unusual. Paul Paul: How much updating was necessary? Yeah, I'm still on dialup (at 44K), and downloading massive files is not a pleasant task. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
On Monday 05 January 2004 02:58 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Tango Echo wrote: | Hi all, | | What have your experiences been with Mandrake 9.2? For me, 9.2 worked much more out of the box than 9.1. Sound, digital camera, printer all worked more or less straight away, whereas 9.1 took a lot of fiddling. Was worth it...for /me/ at least. I might be unusual. Paul Paul: How much updating was necessary? Yeah, I'm still on dialup (at 44K), and downloading massive files is not a pleasant task. -- cmg Cheapbytes has a CD of the Mandrake 9.2 updates that takes you through the bulk of them ... I think it is a little over 400MB (or there abouts). Anyway after updating with that and then doing a further update via the Internet can be a great help to those on dial-up. Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
hmm, not to be a party pooper but some folk still have problems that we didn't have with 9.1 i get random xmms freezes where it just stops, i cant use the mouse to change desktops but i can use ctrl-f1 etc. i alt-f2 and issue 'killall -9 xmms' and i'm back in action, the freeze was almost instantaneous with all kernels that i've tried but the current one i found a refernce to on the web - 2.4.22-18mdk, even then the freeze still happens, it just takes longer also if i have my webcam plugged in on boot up then kmix doesn't load saying that it can't find the mixer being specifed, i suapect that the mixer for the usb audio on the webcam is to blame, if i plug the webcam in after booting then it works and kmix still works so not exactly a flawless install, esp. the xmms thing, the webcam did take some sorting in 9.1 but for xmms to be dodgy is bloody annoying! my hardware is: aopen ak77-600gn + athlonxp 2500 soundblaster live value (onboard sound turned off though onboard gameport enabled) nvidia 5600xt logitech 4000 pro webcam running kde, using alsa-output with xmms 2.4.22-18mdk kernel realtek 8139 nic having googled and searched for 'xmms' in the archives i think i'm alone in my particular category of woes but this was a clean install, not to mention that the well publicised 'fix' for the menu problem by updating via rpmdrake didn't work for me either, i had to play around with menudrake selecting different options from the menu bar and saving and suddenly things got fixed, however my trust in the system is such that i daren't edit the menus in case it all goes south again! oh yes, did i mention that my custom hotkeys for volume changing on this old keyboard using ~/.kde/share/config/khotkeysrc no longer work either? i also appear to be alone in the universe in this also :) so, if your reason for upgrading is to fix a problem that you couldn't find an answer to (like i did) then i suggest spending more time on the original problem first, before upgrading, because in my case, i've swapped one problem for three! bascule On Tuesday 06 Jan 2004 2:32 am, julie wrote: On Monday 05 January 2004 02:58 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Tango Echo wrote: | Hi all, | | What have your experiences been with Mandrake 9.2? For me, 9.2 worked much more out of the box than 9.1. Sound, digital camera, printer all worked more or less straight away, whereas 9.1 took a lot of fiddling. Was worth it...for /me/ at least. I might be unusual. Paul Paul: How much updating was necessary? Yeah, I'm still on dialup (at 44K), and downloading massive files is not a pleasant task. -- cmg Cheapbytes has a CD of the Mandrake 9.2 updates that takes you through the bulk of them ... I think it is a little over 400MB (or there abouts). Anyway after updating with that and then doing a further update via the Internet can be a great help to those on dial-up. Julie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
Overall good. I had initially a lot of freezing which i found out being related to APIC and ACPI. Finally i disabled APIC (while running ACPI) and i haven had any freezing for two days. Other than this the system seems super fast (other than booting time) in particular Konqueror seems the fastest web browser or file manager to me now! Right now my main problem seems to be with some applications itself seem to be buggy. For example the movie/dvd players are far from ideal! Ogle for example just crashes on my machine. Regards, Ramin On January 5, 2004 07:43 am, Tango Echo wrote: Hi all, What have your experiences been with Mandrake 9.2? I recently purchased a new hard drive and was debating if I should put 9.1 (my current one) or 9.2. I know lots of people had complained about 9.2 initially, but perhaps most of the bugs have been worked out? Are there any common bugs I should know about? I just returned from a break so I'd be interested what all of you think Thanks Tango __ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
Overall good. I had initially a lot of freezing which i found out being related to APIC and ACPI. Finally i disabled APIC (while running ACPI) and i haven had any freezing for two days. Other than this the system seems super fast (other than booting time) in particular Konqueror seems the fastest web browser or file manager to me now! Right now my main problem seems to be with some applications itself seem to be buggy. For example the movie/dvd players are far from ideal! Ogle for example just crashes on my machine. Regards, Ramin On January 5, 2004 07:43 am, Tango Echo wrote: Hi all, What have your experiences been with Mandrake 9.2? I recently purchased a new hard drive and was debating if I should put 9.1 (my current one) or 9.2. I know lots of people had complained about 9.2 initially, but perhaps most of the bugs have been worked out? Are there any common bugs I should know about? I just returned from a break so I'd be interested what all of you think Thanks Tango __ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
On Monday 05 January 2004 09:32 pm, julie wrote: On Monday 05 January 2004 02:58 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Tango Echo wrote: | Hi all, | | What have your experiences been with Mandrake 9.2? For me, 9.2 worked much more out of the box than 9.1. Sound, digital camera, printer all worked more or less straight away, whereas 9.1 took a lot of fiddling. Was worth it...for /me/ at least. I might be unusual. Paul Paul: How much updating was necessary? Yeah, I'm still on dialup (at 44K), and downloading massive files is not a pleasant task. -- cmg Cheapbytes has a CD of the Mandrake 9.2 updates that takes you through the bulk of them ... I think it is a little over 400MB (or there abouts). Anyway after updating with that and then doing a further update via the Internet can be a great help to those on dial-up. Julie Julie: Thanks for the tip. It's been ordered. $3.99 for the CD and another $5.00 to ship it sounds like a much better deal to me than spending over 24 hours downloading all that stuff. Back to the OP's question: 400MB of updates sounds kind of high to me -- that's roughly 20 per cent of the base 3 CD distribution. Sigh -- I guess it's time to call the cable guy. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carroll Grigsby wrote: | Paul: | How much updating was necessary? Yeah, I'm still on dialup (at 44K), and | downloading massive files is not a pleasant task. | -- cmg 'Fraid I did a clean install in the end, getting Mdk 9.2 off a magazine CD. Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with MultiZilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/+lGKq+i2H9Bw1yoRAl2OAJ9DvHwzKraQS5256ocWaqENqdPZbQCfeZMG ABqUkY+DeK8uLAi0BgPhyl8= =oPCY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 good now?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 E. Hines wrote: | Just My Opinion, which probably isn't worth much. I've installed 9.2 on two | different laptops and on my experimental machine at home. For me, the | updated rpm packages fix was a necessity due to menu problems after I | installed additional programs. Never had the menu problem myself. Sound worked out of the box for all 3 | machines, and video cards were detected. Yep, same here. The home machine won't run Flash 6, but Flash 5 works fine, and | I'm still trying to iron that problem out. I didn't install Flash on the | laptops, but others on this list say Flash 6 works fine for them. Flash 6 works fine. ~ Some are | complaining about Realplayer, but it works for me. This was one of my biggest annoyances about 9.1: Realplayer would not play ball no matter what I did. ~ Kde seems to run faster | in 9.2 on my old 233 experimental box than it did with 9.1, so perhaps some | optimization is in place with the newer kernel. Yes, prob a tad quicker here too. ~ CUPS has been changed somewhat since 9.1. For | me, I had to do some hunting around to install my networked printer. It | seems to be optimized for business now, and is a bit more complicated for | home use. In the old days it took just choosing the Printer on Remote CUPS | Server box, then the server IP and printername, then printer drivers. The | new version isn't quite as intuitive, but I'll get used to it now that I've | done it one time. Printer installed easily in 9.1 9.2, but easier to get at options in 9.2 via CUPS, xpp, kprinter etc (this may be just me getting to know a system better). ~ There you have it. I wouldn't replace a working 9.1 install with 9.2. Looks like I'm one of the few that would, then! It does seem to be a bit of a lottery, installing any distro of Linux. Will your particular combination of hardware work with that distro? If not, can you come up with a solution, usu by the mailing lists/forums? This is OT I know, but I am trying to get Damn Small Linux going on a PII 300 64Mb laptop, or indeed any other live distro, and it ain't happening. Yet I read of others who found it worked on a 486 out of the box!! Looks like the particular hardware combination I have worked well with 9.2. I couldn't get RH9 going for love nor money, btw. Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with MultiZilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/+lO8q+i2H9Bw1yoRAkxUAKCoB0VMaERWrwxU91iPYUqcvhhErwCfXrh5 Dk2V09q432frAKgNDq4OSRA= =MWxJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
