RE: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)

2000-08-27 Thread Welker Donald P NPRI

Well, I got telnet working by uncommenting inet.conf and running inetd
(where should that be started from if I want it to auto-start?)  As a side
bonus also got my Intellimouse working while surfing through howto's.

I got remote X working by setting XDMCP in my X server.

Now who can tell me how to get my Linux PC to stop making noises with its
speaker whenever it is sending data to my X server?  This is driving me
crazy!! 

 -Original Message-
 From: R J Booysen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 5:22 PM
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 Subject: Re: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)
 
 
 Uncomment the telnet stuff in inet.conf.  Also add the hosts 
 you want to
 allow in hosts.allow
 - Original Message -
 From: "Welker Donald P NPRI" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Newbie (E-mail)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 5:47 PM
 Subject: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)
 
 
  I would like to be able to telnet to my Linux box and/or 
 use X from a
 remote
  system.  The remote system has an X server, but how do I set up the
 daemons
  on the Linux computer?  They don't currently appear to be 
 running (since
  telnet attempts bounce).
 
 
 
 




Re: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)

2000-08-20 Thread Welker Donald P NPRI

I am further than I was: inetd was not starting.   What script is inetd
normally started from?

I should add that this system was installed with the "secure" option, so it
probably isn't doing lots of things that a default installation would do
automatically.  For example, I also need to get it to start lpd
automatically.  I have pretty good reasons for security as you can probably
divine from my email address, so I don't want to just start with a default
configuration.

Nonetheless, I am still stuck.  The computer no longer refuses all
connections, but closes telnet/ftp after a few seconds without prompting for
login.






Re: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)

2000-08-20 Thread Paul

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Welker Donald P NPRI wrote:

I would like to be able to telnet to my Linux box and/or use X from a remote
system.  The remote system has an X server, but how do I set up the daemons
on the Linux computer?  They don't currently appear to be running (since
telnet attempts bounce).

In /etc/inetd.conf you have to remove the # marks with the telnetd line to
make the telnet daemon active.

Paul

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RE: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)

2000-08-20 Thread Welker Donald P NPRI

ftp and telnet lines are both uncommented but connections are refused even
between the Linux computer and itself (including localhost).

 I would like to be able to telnet to my Linux box and/or use 
 X from a remote
 system.  The remote system has an X server, but how do I set 
 up the daemons
 on the Linux computer?  They don't currently appear to be 
 running (since
 telnet attempts bounce).
 
 In /etc/inetd.conf you have to remove the # marks with the 
 telnetd line to
 make the telnet daemon active.




Re: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)

2000-08-20 Thread Greg Stewart

Are you attempting to telnet in from a machine where you are logged in using
an account with the same username/password, or a different one?

I had/have lots of problems with remote logins using ssh on my MDK box, and
I've taken security down to "low" through that DrakConf crap which I had to
find and install manually. (sorry, I just don't like it)

Apparently the rule set Mandrake creates somewhere, somehow, gets VERY fussy
and limits who and how they can log in.

I *have* set of ftpd (wu-ftpd, and anonftp) on the mMDK box, and cannot ftp
in...Out, yes, but in, still no.

It's a very quirky config. If you can, try creating an account with the same
name/password on the remote machine and try getting in again.

--Greg


 ftp and telnet lines are both uncommented but connections are refused even
 between the Linux computer and itself (including localhost).

  I would like to be able to telnet to my Linux box and/or use
  X from a remote
  system.  The remote system has an X server, but how do I set
  up the daemons
  on the Linux computer?  They don't currently appear to be
  running (since
  telnet attempts bounce).
 
  In /etc/inetd.conf you have to remove the # marks with the
  telnetd line to
  make the telnet daemon active.


 
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RE: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)

2000-08-20 Thread Welker Donald P NPRI

It's not outside my LAN, though I do look forward to using ssh for other
reasons (such as access from home).  I'd like to get X and telnet working
before I do that, though.

 If this remote machine is outside your LAN, you mey wish to 
 can telnet, and
 install ssh or Open SSH. These will provide the same acess and X-11
 fowarding, but wih the added security of a 768 bit key.




RE: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)

2000-08-20 Thread Pete Clapham

Hi --

You're having the same trouble I had/have.  There's a part of your inetd.conf (I 
think) file where it allows you to allow or deny 
access to various IP numbers.  Take a look at these.  Uncommenting the lines in 
inetd.conf just starts the daemons.  However, 
you probably have the default status of denying access to all workstations.  Remove 
this denial.  This should allow FTP.  At 
least it did for me.  Alas it probably won't allow telnet (at least it didn't for me). 
 Can anybody out there tell us BOTH how to 
enable telnet to work?  

pete

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 12:48:11 -0400, Welker Donald P NPRI wrote:

ftp and telnet lines are both uncommented but connections are refused even
between the Linux computer and itself (including localhost).

 I would like to be able to telnet to my Linux box and/or use 
 X from a remote
 system.  The remote system has an X server, but how do I set 
 up the daemons
 on the Linux computer?  They don't currently appear to be 
 running (since
 telnet attempts bounce).
 
 In /etc/inetd.conf you have to remove the # marks with the 
 telnetd line to
 make the telnet daemon active.



Pete Clapham
Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences
Cleveland State University
Cleveland, Ohio, 44115
Voice: [216] 687-4820
Fax: [216] 523-7200
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Re: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)

2000-08-20 Thread Pete Clapham

Hi all --

I assume this is a response to Donald Welker's original and then follow-up query about 
FTP and Telnet.  I agree with Greg that 
the config is quirky, but I disagree that it is a matter of login name/password on the 
local machine.  I was actually able to fix 
FTP (but not Telnet) on my server by adjusting the allow/deny parts of the config.  
Now I can and do FTP from windows and 
Linux machines to the server even though one of the linux and none of the windows 
machines has ever heard of root or the 
name I usually go by when using the Linux Server.  

For FTP, find the allow/deny portion of the config (I think that changing this is what 
security actually does -- or at least one of 
the things it does), and allow the machines you WANT to FTP from and make sure those 
machines aren't denied.  It should 
work.

Now, can somebody tell me what to do to get Telnet to work?  Uncommenting the daemons 
in inetd.conf will get telnetd turned 
on, so that a telnet command will connect to the server, but the server will then 
refuse the connection.

pete

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:23:35 -0400, Greg Stewart wrote:

Are you attempting to telnet in from a machine where you are logged in using
an account with the same username/password, or a different one?

I had/have lots of problems with remote logins using ssh on my MDK box, and
I've taken security down to "low" through that DrakConf crap which I had to
find and install manually. (sorry, I just don't like it)

Apparently the rule set Mandrake creates somewhere, somehow, gets VERY fussy
and limits who and how they can log in.

I *have* set of ftpd (wu-ftpd, and anonftp) on the mMDK box, and cannot ftp
in...Out, yes, but in, still no.

It's a very quirky config. If you can, try creating an account with the same
name/password on the remote machine and try getting in again.

--Greg


 ftp and telnet lines are both uncommented but connections are refused even
 between the Linux computer and itself (including localhost).

  I would like to be able to telnet to my Linux box and/or use
  X from a remote
  system.  The remote system has an X server, but how do I set
  up the daemons
  on the Linux computer?  They don't currently appear to be
  running (since
  telnet attempts bounce).
 
  In /etc/inetd.conf you have to remove the # marks with the
  telnetd line to
  make the telnet daemon active.


 
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Re: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)

2000-08-20 Thread maxtor

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, you wrote:

 
 I *have* set of ftpd (wu-ftpd, and anonftp) on the mMDK box, and cannot ftp
 in...Out, yes, but in, still no.
 

I can say that I have no problems on my network either locally or
remotely logging in.  As for your ftp setup not allowing you in, do
you have your psswd, ftpaccess files set up properly?  If you get
those right and add a comment to allow anonymous ftp then everything
should werk for you.


Maxtor