Re: [newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - success
Somebody's got a bad linelength set :) On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Martin White wrote: Or should that be SUCCESS!! Just to confirm - recompiling your kernel without version information on modules DOES allow you to force the insertion of the current module Could just be me but Uh, why does it need forced still? I thought that was the whole point of recompileing was so it'd autoload like any normal driver. available from Creative. On successful reboot you get all the glorious sounds you would expect from your most wonderful Sound Blaster Live!!! Snazzy i thought that was a part of the driver not the device :) Now, the next question is how to write this up in a newbie friendly way ;o) If i think of something easy i'll post again - of course the easiest would be for the next kernel from Mandrake to be compiled this way in the first place!. Don't know if anyone from Mandrake is listening, but how about it guys? - would save a lot of people a lot of hassle, not to mention myself the bandwidth of putting of a new kernel RPM up on my website. I'm not a kernel guru but i'm pretty sure thats going to cause us problems Martin. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
RE: [newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - update
[snip] In that same sensible vein - it seems Mandrake could do worse than pay attention to this in their release strategy - SBLive-value is hardly rare! Making sure the kernal is available in a suitably receptive compiled state looks like a good move for them too. I know other ways exist, but this does at least make some sense in the linux-evangelist stakes. I really don't want to start knocking Mandrake at all here as i'm sure they have plenty enough to do already (!), but i have to admit IF (and only if) this simple recompile works and doesn't screw anything else up, then yes i really do agree. That said i know that nobody in Linux circles is happy with Creative at the moment on the subject of the SBLive! and lack of willingness to release technical info on it (without forking out a small. Maybe that may have an impact. Martin.
Re: [newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - update
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 11:35 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - update I really don't want to start knocking Mandrake at all here as i'm sure they have plenty enough to do already (!), but i have to admit IF (and only if) this simple recompile works and doesn't screw anything else up, then yes i really do agree. From what I have seen so far they are pretty diligent, this opportunity is unlikely to pass them by completely! That said i know that nobody in Linux circles is happy with Creative at the moment on the subject of the SBLive! and lack of willingness to release technical info on it (without forking out a small. Maybe that may have an impact. Well as long as they keep that approach up - they are vulnerable - it would only take one product that fits the bill just right, and the linux community at large to find that out, and Creative could see a lot of their own product, but second hand, hit the streets, and once that happens the perceived value of Creative stuff could fall quite badly. Double whammy - less sales less potential for them at current prices! They are for the first time in a long time vulnerable to predation from a small but alert pacific rim card maker - now that's going prove interesting! - Now if only we knew which one, we'd be forming and orderly (or otherwise) queue at their factory door! ;-) Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] SBLive under 6.1
I am using an older card called an AW32 PRO audio card (S23A). It has a Crystal Semiconductor chipset (cs4232 I think) with a 1 meg wave table on board. It is an ISA card, but works OK for me. Ernie bay56 wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 12:13 AM Subject: [newbie] SBLive under 6.1 PS: I really think that if Creative refuse to release details of the card for programmers to support, the least they could do is have the courtesy to keep up with the two most popular distros in the world. Yeah, agreed - anyone know of a soundcard which does fall into either category (released info or supported properly) - if Creative are not supporting me with this I plan to dump them in the same manner. I'd prefer a PCI card. I know I can read all the databases on this in the world, but they said the SiS 6326 video card was supported, and those of us with one of them know that's just plain wrong for a lot of cases. So if you have working sound in Mandrake 6 6.1 using a PCI card, what make and model of card are you using? Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - update
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To anyone thats interested, i now have the info that i need to have a go at this kernel recompile to fix the problem with the SBLive! under 6.1 FYI, it is (apparently) simply to ensure that version information for loadable modules is disabled (should really have figured that one out for myself), so shouldn't give me any grief to do - don't know if it will effect any other modules mind. If it really does work i will post an update to my web site and let everyone know. Don't know how long it will be able to stay there for though as i don't have a huge bandwidth allocation before my ISP will start screaming! Also note, that due to my PC being in a different part of the country to me at the moment i won't be able to try this until the weekend at the earliest so please don't hassle me before ;o) Martin. Um, maybe you missed something in that explanation you were given.? the only thing thats going to change is the need for the -f in the insmod. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
RE: [newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - update
[snip] FYI, it is (apparently) simply to ensure that version information for loadable modules is disabled (should really have figured that one out for myself), so shouldn't give me any grief to do - don't know if it will effect any other modules mind. [snip] Um, maybe you missed something in that explanation you were given.? the only thing thats going to change is the need for the -f in the insmod. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon Indeed, maybe i did! All i can do is sit down when i have a chance to get my head together, and have a play about. People are definately saying that it can be made to work, yet plenty of people are also saying it doesn't. We shall see, but i certainly appreciate what you're saying about the '-f'. Martin.
Re: [newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - update
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To anyone thats interested, i now have the info that i need to have a go at this kernel recompile to fix the problem with the SBLive! under 6.1 FYI, it is (apparently) simply to ensure that version information for loadable modules is disabled (should really have figured that one out for myself), so shouldn't give me any grief to do - don't know if it will effect any other modules mind. If it really does work i will post an update to my web site and let everyone know. Don't know how long it will be able to stay there for though as i don't have a huge bandwidth allocation before my ISP will start screaming! Also note, that due to my PC being in a different part of the country to me at the moment i won't be able to try this until the weekend at the earliest so please don't hassle me before ;o) Martin. Um, maybe you missed something in that explanation you were given.? the only thing thats going to change is the need for the -f in the insmod. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon Please send me the info I cannot figure this out I am a Newbie (way newbie) so I need line by line key by key stuff. thanks alot in advance Eddie Head [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - update
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:30 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] SBLive! under 6.1 - update Recompiling a kernel is not exactly newbie key by key stuff!! Okay, it's not THAT difficult, but lets at least give me a chance to suss out whether doing it will solve the SBLive! problems or not. If it does, lets figure out the best way to walk anyone through it that wants to. If it doesn't solve the problem, then there's no point in bothering. Unless of course you want help to recompile the kernel for other reasons ;o). If that's the case i'm sure someone could point you to a decent howto or something. All the resources that i've had anything to do with in the past have gone out of their way to ensure that newbies really don't have to recompile their kernel!! In that same sensible vein - it seems Mandrake could do worse than pay attention to this in their release strategy - SBLive-value is hardly rare! Making sure the kernal is available in a suitably receptive compiled state looks like a good move for them too. I know other ways exist, but this does at least make some sense in the linux-evangelist stakes. Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] SBLive under 6.1
I agree with you. Im Just starting and realy dont want to have to deal with a sound card. I want to learn How To use it first. i have installed my 6.0 10 times following all the diffrent instructions. Can someone please tell us what card will work on install with little setup needed. I want to learn how to install and uninstall software get my cdwriter working. But till I get sound I don't know if it is working right. bay56 wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 12:13 AM Subject: [newbie] SBLive under 6.1 PS: I really think that if Creative refuse to release details of the card for programmers to support, the least they could do is have the courtesy to keep up with the two most popular distros in the world. Yeah, agreed - anyone know of a soundcard which does fall into either category (released info or supported properly) - if Creative are not supporting me with this I plan to dump them in the same manner. I'd prefer a PCI card. I know I can read all the databases on this in the world, but they said the SiS 6326 video card was supported, and those of us with one of them know that's just plain wrong for a lot of cases. So if you have working sound in Mandrake 6 6.1 using a PCI card, what make and model of card are you using? Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
Re: [newbie] SBLive under 6.1
I use SB 16 ISA cards they seem to set up in seconds on Redhat or Mandrake Jeanette - Original Message - From: Thomas Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] SBLive under 6.1 I agree with you. Im Just starting and realy dont want to have to deal with a sound card. I want to learn How To use it first. i have installed my 6.0 10 times following all the diffrent instructions. Can someone please tell us what card will work on install with little setup needed. I want to learn how to install and uninstall software get my cdwriter working. But till I get sound I don't know if it is working right. bay56 wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 12:13 AM Subject: [newbie] SBLive under 6.1 PS: I really think that if Creative refuse to release details of the card for programmers to support, the least they could do is have the courtesy to keep up with the two most popular distros in the world. Yeah, agreed - anyone know of a soundcard which does fall into either category (released info or supported properly) - if Creative are not supporting me with this I plan to dump them in the same manner. I'd prefer a PCI card. I know I can read all the databases on this in the world, but they said the SiS 6326 video card was supported, and those of us with one of them know that's just plain wrong for a lot of cases. So if you have working sound in Mandrake 6 6.1 using a PCI card, what make and model of card are you using? Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
RE: [newbie] SBLive under 6.1
-Original Message- From: Thomas Peter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 8:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] SBLive under 6.1 I agree with you. Im Just starting and realy dont want to have to deal with a sound card. I want to learn How To use it first. i have installed my 6.0 10 times following all the diffrent instructions. Can someone please tell us what card will work on install with little setup needed. I want to learn how to install and uninstall software get my cdwriter working. But till I get sound I don't know if it is working right. If having a PCI card is not a necessity then I reckon you should go for a SoundBlaster AWE 64. Cheap as chips, well proven record. I've used mine with RH 5.2 and Mandrake 6.0. The most I ever needed to do to get it running is to run sndconfig twice. I don't know if all the bells and whistles of SB Live work under Linux. IF they don't I wouldn't imagine there to be a huge performance difference between the flashy PCI cards and the AWE 64. Of course I might be wrong on the last bit (anyone know any different?) I can't remember if sound is configured during installation. If it isn't just run setup from the console, or an xterm window, and choose sound. IF you don't have a good old fashioned ISA sound card, what are you going to do with those three empty, never going to be used for anything else, ISA slots? Aaron
Re: [newbie] SBLive under 6.1
- Original Message - From: Aaron deRozario [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 3:12 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] SBLive under 6.1 If you don't have a good old fashioned ISA sound card, what are you going to do with those three empty, never going to be used for anything else, ISA slots? Well sorry to be a pooper, but I only got two, and one of them is a shared - the other is filled with Yamaha SW60XG Midi board. If I didn't own that, I would have gone for 6 PCI Mobo in the first place, instead of this rather tragic 1-5-2 compromise. I may yet fill isa 2 with modem card, since there does not appear to be anyway to get my V90 flashed USR courier VEverything to use V90 under linux (unless you know different, in which case I'd appreciate some idiot proof info!) I figure if it's going to be only 33.6 then it may as well be inside the box and out of my way! ;-) Regards, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zap.to/atelier Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/
