Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
On 2 May 2002, Brian Parish wrote: OK, success! Solution? Change the card. Stick in another nVidia Geforce 2 MX400 and bingo! Of course this card looks different, has a different manufacturer etc. etc., so it's not really surprising that some differences in compatibility are evident. But it just goes to show (I think) that the work done by nVidia on the Windoze side on testing and working around all the different nuances manufacturers use in implementing their chipset do pay off. Brian, this is good information, and I apologize for coming in on the thread a little late, but how does one tell the difference between those cards produced and tested on windows and those that are done for Linux? -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
If only! I think the answer is that if you buy generic, you takes your chance. In this case I bought two cards advertised as the same thing a few months apart from the same supplier, but of course all they have in common is the nVidia chipset. Maybe this is the justification for paying for the brand name??? Brian On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 23:23, daRcmaTTeR wrote: On 2 May 2002, Brian Parish wrote: OK, success! Solution? Change the card. Stick in another nVidia Geforce 2 MX400 and bingo! Of course this card looks different, has a different manufacturer etc. etc., so it's not really surprising that some differences in compatibility are evident. But it just goes to show (I think) that the work done by nVidia on the Windoze side on testing and working around all the different nuances manufacturers use in implementing their chipset do pay off. Brian, this is good information, and I apologize for coming in on the thread a little late, but how does one tell the difference between those cards produced and tested on windows and those that are done for Linux? -- daRcmaTTeR -- Registered Linux User 182496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Femme wrote: Well I tried saving this email to the HDD and doing your cmd, but... no joy? Dont' know what I'm doing wrong here. Femme Typo of mine, should have said XF86... and not XF96... I sent you the file (this time not zipped ;-)) direct incase you have problems. Greetings Ralph -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
On Wed, 1 May 2002 17:25:54 +0200 (CEST) Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Femme wrote: Well I tried saving this email to the HDD and doing your cmd, but... no joy? Dont' know what I'm doing wrong here. Femme Typo of mine, should have said XF86... and not XF96... I sent you the file (this time not zipped ;-)) direct incase you have problems. Femme, I may be jumping in at the wrong end of the thread but if you have not done so it might be helpful i you could post the module section and the Graphics device section of your X86Config-4. I am running an MX on 1 system and a Ti500 on another. When building the drivers from the src.rpms I have not experienced any problems. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
On 30 Apr 2002, Brian Parish wrote: No, but looking through it, all it does is exactly what I was doing anyway - it just includes the download, rpm install and adds the two required strings into the XF86 config file. Thanks anyway. Much appreciated. Brian Hi there Brian, I have had My GeForce 2 for about a year and a half now, and have always basically used the same config file from the first run. At least I mean the same additions to the XF86Config-4 file. The one thing that does strike me is that there seem to be several ways to do this, and the way I do it is not the way it's described on the Mandrake site, but a way I once read a year and a half on some other Linux site. At the moment I'm running L-M 8.2 (Download edition), and have: NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2880 NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2880.mdk82up .. installed. Both were for download at the NVidia site. I have attached mt XF85Config-4 file (BZipped) to this e-mail. You will of cource have to check is the monitor settings, mouse and Keyboard correspond to your own settings before using it, however I cannot see how it would not work. Give it a shot and keep us updated ;-) Greetings Ralph -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ XF86Config-4.bz2 Description: Binary data Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
On Tuesday 30 April 2002 01:10 pm, you wrote: Brian I had the same problem and after a lot of heartache I remembered to run DrakX. Stupidly I had forgotten the simplest rult. HTH Hanuch Did you compile the drivers or download the binaries? Try compiling if you downloaded the binaries. Ian McLeod Customer Service Office (CSO) EDS (Australia) Pty Ltd Level 9, 108 North Tce, Adelaide, SA, 5000 Phone: (08) 8464 1304 Fax: (08) 8464 2141 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EDS... The recognised global leader in ensuring clients achieve superior value in the Digital Economy SAG Account Vision * EDS becomes the clear supplier of choice to South Australian based customers for all IT services and needs, regardless of contractual obligations -Original Message- From: Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 2:26 PM To: newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2 On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 14:42, FemmeFatale wrote: Brian Parish wrote: I need to get some real work done on this system, so unless someone has a REAL bright idea, I'll just leave the gaming in the Windows domain, sigh regretfully, and be resigned to the fact that M$ is going to keep it's market share as long as this sort of crap comes standard with my otherwise much-preferred OS. and yeah, I know it's probably some weirdness associated with my generic Geforce 2 MMX 400 DDR card, but guess what - that's what's out there. And of course with W$ it works just fine. Thanks for the help Femme. cheers Brian Sorry luv, I will look around a bit more for you. But as of yet, i'm out of ideas programs. I take it the little script didn't help? -- Femme No, but looking through it, all it does is exactly what I was doing anyway - it just includes the download, rpm install and adds the two required strings into the XF86 config file. Thanks anyway. Much appreciated. Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[OT] winex [was: Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2]
On Monday 29 April 2002 15:27, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Brian, sorry to hear you're having problems, and I'm equally sorry that it condemns you to Windoze only gaming... (having so much fun with Winex 2.0 here its probably illegal!) I'm jealous! I've compiled and installed winex a couple of times and found that not only does it not run most things properly or at all (I'm talking about Notepad here, not just super-accelerated first-person shooters), it also makes X freeze periodically. I assume the fault lies in my configuration, but winex configuration files seem even more of a headache than plain wine. Still, I suppose it makes me more productive - less temptation to slack off and play a game if I have to go to the trouble of rebooting! Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:27:15 +0200 (CEST) Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Apr 2002, Brian Parish wrote: Hi there Brian, I have had My GeForce 2 for about a year and a half now, and have always basically used the same config file from the first run. At least I mean the same additions to the XF86Config-4 file. The one thing that does strike me is that there seem to be several ways to do this, and the way I do it is not the way it's described on the Mandrake site, but a way I once read a year and a half on some other Linux site. At the moment I'm running L-M 8.2 (Download edition), and have: NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2880 NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2880.mdk82up .. installed. Both were for download at the NVidia site. I have attached mt XF85Config-4 file (BZipped) to this e-mail. You will of cource have to check is the monitor settings, mouse and Keyboard correspond to your own settings before using it, however I cannot see how it would not work. Give it a shot and keep us updated ;-) Greetings Ralph As a sort of aside, I've checked re-checked the Display properties *in E KDE* and always it lists on INFO the driver being nv. Now i changed this manually. Also I Unchecked the Energy savings *Having it on messes with my resolution botches it :(*. Why does it list the driver incorrectly ISn't it reading XFConfig86-4? Why did I have to turn OFF Energy saver manually in that file too Its really starting to piss me off that I had to edit this crap manually still shows up incorrectly. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
Save it to disk, open a console and type: bunzip2 XF96Config-4.bz2 Greetings Ralph On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Femme wrote: On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:34:12 -0400 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. Sorry to butt in, but I was looking at your config file. If he uses it, and it does work, can I add a suggestion? If you're going to be gaming, then I'd add a few more resolutions to it, specifically 640x480 in 16 bit... Just a thought! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ I can't seem to view that cfg with Sylpheed. Can someone point me to how to do so? Please? I know its an attachment But i'm stumped on how to do so :( TIA Femme -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
It works fine with W$ - both 98 and XP. I have to have them there as I support customers who use them, but apart from that, those partions remain pretty dusty! I am not suggesting that the card is faulty, just that nVidia may not have put quite as much time into trying their drivers with the zillions of combinations of hardware that are using their chipsets on linux as they did under windoze. I suspect that a large amount of code in the W$ drivers consists of work-arounds for various OS botches. Maybe this makes the doze versions a little more tolerant of some slight strangeness in my card. Anyway, I'll try another one and report back. thanks again Brian P.S. Don't worry - I won't charge extra for the burn-in ;) On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 14:55, Ralph Slooten wrote: It may not be the card itself, but a conflict with your hardware. But yes, I would not rule out totally that the card may be fautly. Have you ever tried this configuration with Winblows? If so, did it work there? Please, you do not have to install it just to test ;-) Otherwise, it seems easy for you to get your hands on other cards, just remind me not to buy any computers from a place where a Brian works ;-) Greetings Ralph On 1 May 2002, Brian Parish wrote: OK Ralph, Gave that a try. Looked thru your file and it was similar enough to mine to be able to use it without change. Saved my XF86config-4 and replaced it with yours. Installed the downloaded rpms. Same result - long delay after startx, then nVidia splash, then KDE. Ran evolution, clicked on a message (it displayed) clicked on the trash to delete it, hung. Can't stop X, can't switch to a console, can't ping the machine, frozen solid. I am willing to wager a small amount (very small) that if I pulled the graphics card and put in another nvidia based card, it would be likely to work. In fact, next time I build a machine for a customer, their new card may just get a brief burn-in period doing just that. I'll let you know the result, but that could be a while (building machines is only a small part of my business). Thanks anyway - it was a good thing to try. cheers Brian -- Homepage: http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
On Wed, 1 May 2002 06:59:26 +0200 (CEST) Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Save it to disk, open a console and type: bunzip2 XF96Config-4.bz2 Greetings Ralph I can't seem to view that cfg with Sylpheed. Can someone point me to how to do so? Please? I know its an attachment But i'm stumped on how to do so :( TIA Femme Well I tried saving this email to the HDD and doing your cmd, but... no joy? Dont' know what I'm doing wrong here. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
Sure - send it on down. I'll try anything. I'm sure I rebooted at least once during the cycle of try this - try that, but maybe not when everything was supposedly in place. I'll play some more including a reboot. The error consists of words to the effect that the nvidia kernel module failed to load. I was getting an error on the GLX part, but a remove/reinstall fixed that. thanks and regards Brian On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 16:26, FemmeFatale wrote: Brian Parish wrote: OK, I'm about ready to strangle a small furry creature here! *grabs her small furry animal out of sight* On second thought... He's a neurotic bundle of nerves yappiness. *hands the animal over* Strangle away! ;) I have installed the rpms, no probs. Updated my XF86config-4 file to include loading glx and changed the nv to nvidia, but it refuses to load the nvidia kernel. Looks like I'll have to start insmoding or modprobing or mindreading unless anyone has any suggestions. Brian Reboot. That worked for me. Failing that... I have an Nvidia install script recently put out on LM's site for just such stupidity as the driver being fooked or something like that I'd guess. Want it? I've not tried it but you're welcome to give it a shot. What's the error now btw? -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
OK, I think it's time to give up on this and wait until nVidia can write a driver that works. Femme sent me the RPMs that worked for her, which (not surprisingly) are entirely consistent with those I downloaded from nVidia. I also tried removing all NV related rpms and installing the kernel and glx rpms from the LM 8.2 powerpack commercial CD. Did the edits to /etc/X11/XF86config-4. Ran XFdrake. Even rebooted. It seems I can either have it with acceleration and an uptime of about 30 seconds after starting X, or stable without acceleration. Strangely enough if I run TUXracer immediately after starting X (i.e. before it has time to die) TUX seems happy to keep on sliding indefinitely. But try running software manager, or evolution, or anything else that does normal, non-fancy graphic stuff and the system freezes solid. Can't stop X. Can't ssh (or even ping) from another machine. Big red switch time. Even the startx sequence looks nasty. I get a blank screen for 15-20 seconds, a flicker, another 15-20 seconds of blank, a coarse grey pattern, a finer grey pattern, back to coarse, then finally an nVidia splash screen and a KDE startup. Seems like the driver is cycling through a whole lot of settings, trying to find a response, but who knows really? I need to get some real work done on this system, so unless someone has a REAL bright idea, I'll just leave the gaming in the Windows domain, sigh regretfully, and be resigned to the fact that M$ is going to keep it's market share as long as this sort of crap comes standard with my otherwise much-preferred OS. and yeah, I know it's probably some weirdness associated with my generic Geforce 2 MMX 400 DDR card, but guess what - that's what's out there. And of course with W$ it works just fine. Thanks for the help Femme. cheers Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
On Monday 29 April 2002 07:41 pm, you wrote: OK, I think it's time to give up on this and wait until nVidia can write a driver that works. Femme sent me the RPMs that worked for her, which (not surprisingly) are entirely consistent with those I downloaded from nVidia. I also tried removing all NV related rpms and installing the kernel and glx rpms from the LM 8.2 powerpack commercial CD. Did the edits to /etc/X11/XF86config-4. Ran XFdrake. Even rebooted. It seems I can either have it with acceleration and an uptime of about 30 seconds after starting X, or stable without acceleration. Strangely enough if I run TUXracer immediately after starting X (i.e. before it has time to die) TUX seems happy to keep on sliding indefinitely. But try running software manager, or evolution, or anything else that does normal, non-fancy graphic stuff and the system freezes solid. Can't stop X. Can't ssh (or even ping) from another machine. Big red switch time. Even the startx sequence looks nasty. I get a blank screen for 15-20 seconds, a flicker, another 15-20 seconds of blank, a coarse grey pattern, a finer grey pattern, back to coarse, then finally an nVidia splash screen and a KDE startup. Seems like the driver is cycling through a whole lot of settings, trying to find a response, but who knows really? I need to get some real work done on this system, so unless someone has a REAL bright idea, I'll just leave the gaming in the Windows domain, sigh regretfully, and be resigned to the fact that M$ is going to keep it's market share as long as this sort of crap comes standard with my otherwise much-preferred OS. and yeah, I know it's probably some weirdness associated with my generic Geforce 2 MMX 400 DDR card, but guess what - that's what's out there. And of course with W$ it works just fine. Thanks for the help Femme. cheers Brian Brian, try one more thing for you give up. Reduce the number of colors your running by one notch. Also check the documentation on your monitor and make sure it is capable of the resolution you have set. Just a for what it's worth. HTH Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
Brian Parish wrote: I need to get some real work done on this system, so unless someone has a REAL bright idea, I'll just leave the gaming in the Windows domain, sigh regretfully, and be resigned to the fact that M$ is going to keep it's market share as long as this sort of crap comes standard with my otherwise much-preferred OS. and yeah, I know it's probably some weirdness associated with my generic Geforce 2 MMX 400 DDR card, but guess what - that's what's out there. And of course with W$ it works just fine. Thanks for the help Femme. cheers Brian Sorry luv, I will look around a bit more for you. But as of yet, i'm out of ideas programs. I take it the little script didn't help? -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 14:42, FemmeFatale wrote: Brian Parish wrote: I need to get some real work done on this system, so unless someone has a REAL bright idea, I'll just leave the gaming in the Windows domain, sigh regretfully, and be resigned to the fact that M$ is going to keep it's market share as long as this sort of crap comes standard with my otherwise much-preferred OS. and yeah, I know it's probably some weirdness associated with my generic Geforce 2 MMX 400 DDR card, but guess what - that's what's out there. And of course with W$ it works just fine. Thanks for the help Femme. cheers Brian Sorry luv, I will look around a bit more for you. But as of yet, i'm out of ideas programs. I take it the little script didn't help? -- Femme No, but looking through it, all it does is exactly what I was doing anyway - it just includes the download, rpm install and adds the two required strings into the XF86 config file. Thanks anyway. Much appreciated. Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
Did you compile the drivers or download the binaries? Try compiling if you downloaded the binaries. Ian McLeod Customer Service Office (CSO) EDS (Australia) Pty Ltd Level 9, 108 North Tce, Adelaide, SA, 5000 Phone: (08) 8464 1304 Fax: (08) 8464 2141 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EDS... The recognised global leader in ensuring clients achieve superior value in the Digital Economy SAG Account Vision * EDS becomes the clear supplier of choice to South Australian based customers for all IT services and needs, regardless of contractual obligations -Original Message- From: Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 2:26 PM To: newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2 On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 14:42, FemmeFatale wrote: Brian Parish wrote: I need to get some real work done on this system, so unless someone has a REAL bright idea, I'll just leave the gaming in the Windows domain, sigh regretfully, and be resigned to the fact that M$ is going to keep it's market share as long as this sort of crap comes standard with my otherwise much-preferred OS. and yeah, I know it's probably some weirdness associated with my generic Geforce 2 MMX 400 DDR card, but guess what - that's what's out there. And of course with W$ it works just fine. Thanks for the help Femme. cheers Brian Sorry luv, I will look around a bit more for you. But as of yet, i'm out of ideas programs. I take it the little script didn't help? -- Femme No, but looking through it, all it does is exactly what I was doing anyway - it just includes the download, rpm install and adds the two required strings into the XF86 config file. Thanks anyway. Much appreciated. Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
Brian Parish wrote: OK, my powerpack arrived! A fresh install does all the things I would hope and expect it to do, but for a glitch with my graphics card. I have an nVidia GEforce 2 MX400. Chose the lastest Xfree with acceleration during the install. Login and type startx Screen goes blank for about 30 seconds, then I get an nVidia splash screen, then finally KDE comes up. Acceleration is obviously working as Tux zooms very nicely after those herring, but the entire system will hang to the point where Ctrl-Alt-Backspace does nothing and I can't even ping the machine. Reset button time! OK, so I get rid of xfree 4.2.whatever, go back to the previous 4.something-else without acceleration and everything is stable. But Tux of course is a major casualty. :-( Can anyone offer a way to make it stable AND accelerated? TIA Brian Look at LM's site for nvidia instructions they have special ones there for your card. Femme -- Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
On Sun, 2002-04-28 at 16:42, FemmeFatale wrote: Brian Parish wrote: OK, my powerpack arrived! A fresh install does all the things I would hope and expect it to do, but for a glitch with my graphics card. I have an nVidia GEforce 2 MX400. Chose the lastest Xfree with acceleration during the install. Login and type startx Screen goes blank for about 30 seconds, then I get an nVidia splash screen, then finally KDE comes up. Acceleration is obviously working as Tux zooms very nicely after those herring, but the entire system will hang to the point where Ctrl-Alt-Backspace does nothing and I can't even ping the machine. Reset button time! OK, so I get rid of xfree 4.2.whatever, go back to the previous 4.something-else without acceleration and everything is stable. But Tux of course is a major casualty. :-( Can anyone offer a way to make it stable AND accelerated? TIA Brian Look at LM's site for nvidia instructions they have special ones there for your card. Femme Thanks Femme, and also for not adding the obvious Why didn't you do that first bonehead? Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
On Sun, 2002-04-28 at 16:42, FemmeFatale wrote: Brian Parish wrote: OK, my powerpack arrived! A fresh install does all the things I would hope and expect it to do, but for a glitch with my graphics card. I have an nVidia GEforce 2 MX400. Chose the lastest Xfree with acceleration during the install. Login and type startx Screen goes blank for about 30 seconds, then I get an nVidia splash screen, then finally KDE comes up. Acceleration is obviously working as Tux zooms very nicely after those herring, but the entire system will hang to the point where Ctrl-Alt-Backspace does nothing and I can't even ping the machine. Reset button time! OK, so I get rid of xfree 4.2.whatever, go back to the previous 4.something-else without acceleration and everything is stable. But Tux of course is a major casualty. :-( Can anyone offer a way to make it stable AND accelerated? TIA Brian Look at LM's site for nvidia instructions they have special ones there for your card. Femme H. I must be particularly impervious to the obvious today. Can you point me a little more pointedly in the direction of that info? TIA Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
Brian Parish wrote: Look at LM's site for nvidia instructions they have special ones there for your card. Femme Thanks Femme, and also for not adding the obvious Why didn't you do that first bonehead? Brian Brian! I'm shocked! I'd never do such a thing! :) well I would, but you get 2 chances thats it :P Consider yourself warned. ;p Enjoy Love Femme -- Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X and nVidia under 8.2
Brian Parish wrote: H. I must be particularly impervious to the obvious today. Can you point me a little more pointedly in the direction of that info? TIA Brian This is the page I referred to: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/hardware/index.html#nom I hope it helps, If not um re-post to the list pls. Femme -- Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
