Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

2004-03-19 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday 18 March 2004 02:11 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
 You can use Cooker, but the last install I did was from
 Mandrake-devel/stable   folder. It worked great.

 derek

Until 10.0 becomes Offical, 'stable' and 'cooker' are the same 
thing. Cooker is a direct link, stable is currently symlinked to 
it.  The fork won't occur til 10-OE is announced, and I believe 
that as in the past, cooker will be on hold for more than a week 
after 10-OE is released.

BTW, there's been some hints by Warly and TV that current 
cooker is very close to 10-Official at this time.  So it would be 
best, if everybody running 10-CE would update to current cooker 
now, as I suspect we're entering about a two week test period. 
It's doable even on a dialup.

Speak now or forever hold your complaints ;)
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Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

2004-03-19 Thread David Bachechi
No here is a NEWBIE question.what/where is the cooker?

Sorry for the stupid question.

Thanks though!

Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Thursday 18 March 2004 02:11 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:

You can use Cooker, but the last install I did was from
Mandrake-devel/stable   folder. It worked great.
derek


Until 10.0 becomes Offical, 'stable' and 'cooker' are the same 
thing. Cooker is a direct link, stable is currently symlinked to 
it.  The fork won't occur til 10-OE is announced, and I believe 
that as in the past, cooker will be on hold for more than a week 
after 10-OE is released.

BTW, there's been some hints by Warly and TV that current 
cooker is very close to 10-Official at this time.  So it would be 
best, if everybody running 10-CE would update to current cooker 
now, as I suspect we're entering about a two week test period. 
It's doable even on a dialup.

Speak now or forever hold your complaints ;)



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2004-03-19 Thread David Bachechi


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No here is a NEWBIE question.what/where is the cooker?

Sorry for the stupid question.

Thanks though!

Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Thursday 18 March 2004 02:11 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:

You can use Cooker, but the last install I did was from
Mandrake-devel/stable   folder. It worked great.
derek


Until 10.0 becomes Offical, 'stable' and 'cooker' are the same 
thing. Cooker is a direct link, stable is currently symlinked to 
it.  The fork won't occur til 10-OE is announced, and I believe 
that as in the past, cooker will be on hold for more than a week 
after 10-OE is released.

BTW, there's been some hints by Warly and TV that current 
cooker is very close to 10-Official at this time.  So it would be 
best, if everybody running 10-CE would update to current cooker 
now, as I suspect we're entering about a two week test period. 
It's doable even on a dialup.

Speak now or forever hold your complaints ;)



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Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

2004-03-19 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday 19 March 2004 09:50 am, David Bachechi wrote:
 No here is a NEWBIE question.what/where is the cooker?

As to what/where...

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3has a mirror   
   list, but factor in 
http://manu.agat.net/mandrake/mirrors_state.html
See also
http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php(select 'cooker')

On the first link above, read the whole page, and particularly 
the cooker twiki links
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake10
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinux10ReleaseNotes
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Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

2004-03-19 Thread David Bachechi
Thanks,

Couple of questions.  Is urpmi the backend of Mandrake update, or a 
totally different thing?

If I use Mandrake update, does that pull from the same source as the 
cooker(specifically in mandrake 10CE)?  Or should I be using urpmi 
exclusively?

Thanks agian!

Tom Brinkman wrote:

On Friday 19 March 2004 09:50 am, David Bachechi wrote:

No here is a NEWBIE question.what/where is the cooker?


As to what/where...

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3has a mirror   
   list, but factor in 
http://manu.agat.net/mandrake/mirrors_state.html
See also
http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php(select 'cooker')

On the first link above, read the whole page, and particularly 
the cooker twiki links
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake10
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinux10ReleaseNotes



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Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

2004-03-19 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Friday 19 March 2004 11:26 am, David Bachechi wrote:
 Thanks,

 Couple of questions.  Is urpmi the backend of Mandrake update,
 or a totally different thing?

 Yes, and rpm is what urpmi uses.  There won't be a 
security/bugfix repository until after 10-OE is released. For now 
it's cooker.

 If I use Mandrake update, does that pull from the same source
 as the cooker(specifically in mandrake 10CE)?  Or should I be
 using urpmi exclusively?

   I use urpmi on the CL. I don't know how to setup rpmdrake to do 
it with a GUI, but I believe you can do it.  Just point it to 
cooker mirrors.  Northern European are the best.

Most all this info has been posted on newbie and expert 
before, so check the archives.
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Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

2004-03-18 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 18 March 2004 18:08, Alexandre Aractingi wrote:
 Hi all,
 I'm about to upgrade a 9.2 system with the new 10.0 one, and I was
 wondering if there is any online repository available to configure urpmi
 with.
 Is 10.0 Community considered Cooker? Am I supposed to point at Cooker
 directories / hdlists?
 Thanks,
Yes,
If you insist on updating via the web yesbut be in for a very very 
veery long (think days) install session.

Downloading and burning the .iso's is the better option.

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

2004-03-18 Thread Alexandre Aractingi
Le jeu 18/03/2004 à 18:16, H.J.Bathoorn a écrit :
 If you insist on updating via the web yesbut be in for a very very 
 veery long (think days) install session.
 
 Downloading and burning the .iso's is the better option.

Thanks for your answer.
Actually I already have the 3 iso's, but I was referring to all the
other apps, contribs for example. Any (stable - frozen?) repository for
them?
Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

2004-03-18 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 18 Mar 2004 17:16, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Thursday 18 March 2004 18:08, Alexandre Aractingi wrote:
  Hi all,
  I'm about to upgrade a 9.2 system with the new 10.0 one, and I was
  wondering if there is any online repository available to configure urpmi
  with.
  Is 10.0 Community considered Cooker? Am I supposed to point at Cooker
  directories / hdlists?
  Thanks,

 Yes,
 If you insist on updating via the web yesbut be in for a very very
 veery long (think days) install session.

 Downloading and burning the .iso's is the better option.

 Good luck,
 HarM
Maybe on dial up, I have upgraded two systems from 9.2 to 10.0 by urpmi from 
Cooker, and it took about 2 hours.


You can use Cooker, but the last install I did was from Mandrake-devel/stable   
folder. It worked great.

derek

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Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

2004-03-18 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:11, Derek Jennings wrote:
 Maybe on dial up, I have upgraded two systems from 9.2 to 10.0 by urpmi
 from Cooker, and it took about 2 hours.

I took that long on a P2, 256M ram box (from 10.0beta2 to CE) using CD-roms, 
You really have bandwidth;)
The P4 work box with 9.2 I've got would do that a lot faster but from what 
I've seen of 10.0 until now..well...OK  (it certainly looks slick), on a 
separate partition maybe, but not for real work, noway.

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories

2004-03-18 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 18 March 2004 18:22, Alexandre Aractingi wrote:
 Le jeu 18/03/2004 à 18:16, H.J.Bathoorn a écrit :
  If you insist on updating via the web yesbut be in for a very very
  veery long (think days) install session.
 
  Downloading and burning the .iso's is the better option.

 Thanks for your answer.
 Actually I already have the 3 iso's, but I was referring to all the
 other apps, contribs for example. Any (stable - frozen?) repository for
 them?
 Thanks,

Yes, take a look at easy urpmi or the plf site or...if you're a club member 
download the iso's. 10.0 isn't mentioned as is , it's the current (i.e. 
cooker) repository still.
Bear in mind though that neither cooker or 10.0 (or Community Edition, or 
whatever) is stable enough to be a 100% trustworthy production environment. 
Stable is  a very relative descriptionfrozen says it all;)

Good luck,
HarM 
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