Re: [newbie] 3 quick questions
On Wednesday September 10 2003 12:35 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 13:44, Tom Brinkman wrote: With this in mind, today after twice rebooting to new kernels'finding modules' was instantaneous. Hardly a blink. Uh...what kernels are you booting to now? 2.4.22-7mdkxp7 Actually a 2.4.23 pre kernel, compiled for AthlonXP. But I've never hung on 'finding modules' as far back as I can remember. FWIW, I'm a believer that recompiling kernels is of no performance benefit. I only do it recently to test and time my new hardware. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3 quick questions
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 11:53 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [off list] Sounds unnecessary then. Thanks very much for your reply. Max Well, I didn't mean to suggest that extra security was a completely bad idea. I do keep my machine locked own with /etc/hosts.deny and allow entries to block traffic I don't know about or approve. I also have tripwire installed just in case my machine is compromised so that I will get some notification. And, I run the nightly security checks as well as chkrootkit so that I can be made aware of open ports, changes to the system and attempts to install root kits on my machine. Unlike some people, I do not allow changes to my router/firewall from an external connection, only the local network can do that. There are a number of other periodic checks you can make including checking for new user accounts, home directories and any log file removals or deletions. Several tools will automate those processes for you. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3 quick questions
Max to quote another post I read on this : maximum fragmentation in linux is 3% so you really don't have to defrag your ext2/3 fs Defragging a linux drive is unnecessary. for Firewalls for newbies I would suggest Firestarter it's easier in my opinion than shorewall for those who are comming from a windows setting if you just want a local firewall for the laptop itself. If you want to run a separate box as a firewall, gateway, router for a home network then MNF is great! just my suggestions ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, let me thank you all for the excellent advice on getting mdk91 to work on my Fujitsu PII 366 Mhz notebook with 191 RAM and a 30G drive. I decided that I needed to change the way the disk was set up and so I wiped it and reinstalled W2KP and MDK91. Something went differently this time and the installation was much more graphical, much more handholding. There must've been an unnoticed error during my last install which skipped some of the later steps. Also, I've migrated from Gnome to KDE (happily so far). This time everything is working very smoothly, quickly, and well. I even found SNDCONFIG and was able to convince the notebook that a like model sound driver would be a good fit, so I now have sound. Three quick questions: 1) When booting there is about a 18 second delay while the system checks modules. Is this normal? All the other steps seem to pass quickly. 2) How do i defragment the harddrive? There must be a utility somewhere, but HARDDRAKE seems to launch LOGDRAKE. laughing (LOGDRAKE doesn't show anything unusual.) 3) I have a Linksys router between the Internet cloud and my home system. Is there any use in my installing MNF (Multiple Net Firewall)? I'd like to be notified of attempts to access my system, be able to see activity, etc, and the linksys doesn't really show that (it has a log function, but it's on the router itself and a bit of a pain to read). Would I derive any benefit or is the Linksys already protecting me so the MNF would be redundant and never activated? Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Mike McNeese Springdale, Arkansas USA == Dual booting 98lite;MDK 9.1 stock kernel Kde 3.1 Registered Linux User #248955 liquid/acqua Theme == If obstacles are what you see in your path... Then you have lost sight of your goal! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3 quick questions
Three quick questions: 1) When booting there is about a 18 second delay while the system checks modules. Is this normal? All the other steps seem to pass quickly. In MandrakeControlCentreSystemServices disable harddrake and auto kernel headers. That will speed up booting (obviously if your hardware is going to change you want harddrake on first or else it will not detect the new hardware) 2) How do i defragment the harddrive? There must be a utility somewhere, You don't. Thats a Winders thang. Linux does *not* suffer from fragmentation 3) I have a Linksys router between the Internet cloud and my home system. Is there any use in my installing MNF (Multiple Net Firewall)? I'd like to be notified of attempts to access my system, be able to see activity, etc, and the linksys doesn't really show that (it has a log function, but it's on the router itself and a bit of a pain to read). Would I derive any benefit or is the Linksys already protecting me so the MNF would be redundant and never activated? Your Linksys will be protecting you. If you like enable the Firewall in Mandrake Control Centre, and so long as you have put in an email address in the security section of Mandrake Control Centre you will get daily emails listing firewall hits and other security related info. MNF is a stand alone firewall you would use in place of the Linksys. derek Thanks. -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3 quick questions
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 01:00 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three quick questions: 3) I have a Linksys router between the Internet cloud and my home system. Is there any use in my installing MNF (Multiple Net Firewall)? I'd like to be notified of attempts to access my system, be able to see activity, etc, and the linksys doesn't really show that (it has a log function, but it's on the router itself and a bit of a pain to read). Would I derive any benefit or is the Linksys already protecting me so the MNF would be redundant and never activated? If you actually open ports up for some services on the router, a firewall on your machine can provide an extra layer of protection to stop intruders from taking advantage of the open port. If you want to actually see logs from your router/firewall, I think that you are stuck, it won't write those to a disk, that I know of, and if it did it probably wouldn't do that to a Linux formatted disk. Personally, I would not put my machine in the DMZ and remove one great layer of protection just to be able to see logs of people turned away, YMMV. I have installed and played around with a lot of intrustion detection software and stuff like portsentry which is pretty useless if you use a hardware firewall like a router, but if you were paranoid, you could use both to provide that extra layer of security. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3 quick questions
On Tuesday September 9 2003 06:01 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: 1) When booting there is about a 18 second delay while the system checks modules. Is this normal? All the other steps seem to pass quickly. 20 seconds is normal, 18 is fast. Something MUST be wrong - or we can teach you how to set the time-out much higher(JOKE) Yeah, that's about normal... With this in mind, today after twice rebooting to new kernels'finding modules' was instantaneous. Hardly a blink. I don't remember it ever bein any different (?). The only thing that did ever lag is 'eth0', 20 maybe 30 seconds. I have a dynamic DSL connection. BUT, I found changing /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ ifcfg-eth0, BOOTPROTO=dhcp to BOOTPROTO=static makes it zip by eth0 on boot in less than a second. With either config, eth0 is still up and working. My edit just gets rid of the boot lag. I've discussed it with the Mandrake developers an they're scratchin their heads too. This was durin 9.1 devel, but it still holds true for me now in 9.2 RC2 + updates. Anyways, if your boot is takin 18 or more seconds to resolve module deps, somethin ain't configured properly, or somethin is weird. OTOH, like my eth0 deal above, sometimes when they're try'n make sure stuff works out of the box for everybody, the config's and apps sometimes are less than optimal for those who don't need the kludges in the first place. I never had the eth0 situation till a few complained on the 9.1 devel (cooker list) that there were problems with dhcp-client and their connections ;) They won, I had to scratch. NBFD, eth0 works either way, otherwise you wouldn't have to read this ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3 quick questions
I read (here i think) that you can turn off the module check, too, if you aren't changing anything. In MandrakeControlCentreSystemServices disable harddrake and auto kernel headers. That will speed up booting (obviously if your hardware is going to change you want harddrake on first or else it will not detect the new hardware) What is auto kernal headers for? -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Join the content organization discussion: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/NewIndex Join the General Wiki Development discussion: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/DevelopingTheMandrakeCommunity#Discussion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3 quick questions
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 13:44, Tom Brinkman wrote: With this in mind, today after twice rebooting to new kernels'finding modules' was instantaneous. Hardly a blink. Uh...what kernels are you booting to now? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Nothing makes a person more productive than the last minute. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
