Re: [newbie] 3D Graphics card for 9.0? (3 questions)
On Tuesday 29 October 2002 05:03 pm, budest wrote: Same here GeForce 4. Just make sure you follow the Readme to the letter. I am operating in Mandrake with a GeForce4 and all is well. On Tuesday 29 Oct 2002 9:05 pm, Paul Rodriguez wrote: Hi, I purchased an ATI Radeon 8500 for my dad's machine thinking it would have good 3D acceleration support, being that it wasn't the latest 9000 and that it's on the Mandrake supported hardware list. Plus, I like to use open source drivers. As it turns out, the 8500 does not seem to have any 3D Acceleration support in Mandrake 9.0 according to those who I have talked to, and won't for some time. The ATI supplied drivers are also incompatible with 9.0. As I just got my RMA approved, I need to find a substitute. 1) What other options do I have? Should I go with another ATI, or something else? I hear Nvidia's are good. 2) Who makes a good Nvidia card? 3) Should I go with a Geforce3 or a Geforce4? I have a Hercules Geforce3 at home, and I am not happy with it. I hear that people are very happy with Geforce3's from other manufacturers. - Paul Rodriguez Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3D Graphics card for 9.0? (3 questions)
Paul Rodriguez wrote: Hi, I purchased an ATI Radeon 8500 for my dad's machine thinking it would have good 3D acceleration support, being that it wasn't the latest 9000 and that it's on the Mandrake supported hardware list. Plus, I like to use open source drivers. As it turns out, the 8500 does not seem to have any 3D Acceleration support in Mandrake 9.0 according to those who I have talked to, and won't for some time. The ATI supplied drivers are also incompatible with 9.0. As I just got my RMA approved, I need to find a substitute. 1) What other options do I have? Should I go with another ATI, or something else? I hear Nvidia's are good. nVidia works well with their drivers if you do the install right (see previous threads). 2) Who makes a good Nvidia card? I don't think there's a massive difference. Check the chipset, and that it has all the IO ports you want. 3) Should I go with a Geforce3 or a Geforce4? I have a Hercules Geforce3 at home, and I am not happy with it. I hear that people are very happy with Geforce3's from other manufacturers. IMHO, the Geforce3 falls between two stools. If your father is into 3D rendering or is a first-person shooter addict with the reflexes of a rattlesnake, go for a 4, but for most practical purposes, a Geforce2 with 64MB onboard memory is fine (most models only have 32MB, which is OK, but 64MB gives better performance for a very small price difference, I think). Sir Robin -- A free man ought not to learn anything under duress. Compulsory physical exercise does no harm to the body, but compulsory learning never sticks in the mind. - Plato Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent University Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3D Graphics card for 9.0? (3 questions)
I am operating in Mandrake with a GeForce4 and all is well. On Tuesday 29 Oct 2002 9:05 pm, Paul Rodriguez wrote: Hi, I purchased an ATI Radeon 8500 for my dad's machine thinking it would have good 3D acceleration support, being that it wasn't the latest 9000 and that it's on the Mandrake supported hardware list. Plus, I like to use open source drivers. As it turns out, the 8500 does not seem to have any 3D Acceleration support in Mandrake 9.0 according to those who I have talked to, and won't for some time. The ATI supplied drivers are also incompatible with 9.0. As I just got my RMA approved, I need to find a substitute. 1) What other options do I have? Should I go with another ATI, or something else? I hear Nvidia's are good. 2) Who makes a good Nvidia card? 3) Should I go with a Geforce3 or a Geforce4? I have a Hercules Geforce3 at home, and I am not happy with it. I hear that people are very happy with Geforce3's from other manufacturers. - Paul Rodriguez Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3D Graphics card for 9.0? (3 questions)
I have installed two days ago a Creative 3D Blaster 4 Titanium 420 (with Nvidia Geforce4 titanium chip) and it is runing fine; even I haver reached to activate the tv-output and I can watch xine-dvds and tv decodified in my tv :-) On the other hand the acceleration 3d (DRI) is esplendid and games as Quake III, Chromium, Tuxracer are runing quite fast. Using winex transgaming also some windows games that need DRI are runing fine (Heroes 4, Ages of Empires and so on). I sincerely recomend you a Nvidia compatible (Geforce 2, 3 or 4) because the drivers of Nvidia for linux are very good. -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3D Graphics card for 9.0? (3 questions)
On Tuesday 29 October 2002 04:57 pm, Robin Turner wrote: Paul Rodriguez wrote: Hi, I purchased an ATI Radeon 8500 for my dad's machine thinking it would have good 3D acceleration support, being that it wasn't the latest 9000 and that it's on the Mandrake supported hardware list. Plus, I like to use open source drivers. As it turns out, the 8500 does not seem to have any 3D Acceleration support in Mandrake 9.0 according to those who I have talked to, and won't for some time. The ATI supplied drivers are also incompatible with 9.0. As I just got my RMA approved, I need to find a substitute. 1) What other options do I have? Should I go with another ATI, or something else? I hear Nvidia's are good. nVidia works well with their drivers if you do the install right (see previous threads). 2) Who makes a good Nvidia card? I don't think there's a massive difference. Check the chipset, and that it has all the IO ports you want. 3) Should I go with a Geforce3 or a Geforce4? I have a Hercules Geforce3 at home, and I am not happy with it. I hear that people are very happy with Geforce3's from other manufacturers. IMHO, the Geforce3 falls between two stools. If your father is into 3D rendering or is a first-person shooter addict with the reflexes of a rattlesnake, go for a 4, but for most practical purposes, a Geforce2 with 64MB onboard memory is fine (most models only have 32MB, which is OK, but 64MB gives better performance for a very small price difference, I think). Sir Robin I agree with Sir Robin, unless you are a bleeding edge gamer a Geforce 2 with 64MB onboard will run like a champ, tuxracer and ut2003 both work very well on my machine. Those are the only games I have tried that need fast frames so I can't speak to other games. Mine is an MSI Graphic card. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3D Graphics card for 9.0? (3 questions)
At 09:00 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, you wrote: Skip the MX in favor of what? - Paul On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 20:45, FemmeFatale wrote: At 07:59 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, you wrote: Then again, there is always the VGA CHAINTECH GEFORCE4 MX440 64MB for $20 cheaper. - Paul On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 19:52, Paul Rodriguez wrote: Thanks for your help everybody. What I am looking at right now for my dad's machine is a: Leadtek GEFORCE4 MX440 64MB or Abit Siluro Geforce4 MX 440 64MB What do you think? MX's are a neutered version of the GE2 line... if you don't game their fine If you do game, skip the MX line entirely Leadtek is IIRC a better company --- Femme Oops... forgot to say skip it in favour of the vanilla GEForce 2 Cards. The un-neutered variety like the one I have, a Creative Annhilator 2 GeForce2. Find it on Creative's site if you wish to see the difference. I have a 32 mb version of it. Not great but it'll do for now. --- Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3D Graphics card for 9.0? (3 questions)
Wow, so a Geforce4 MX will run worse than a Geforce2 vanilla? That's not a very good naming convention then. Thanks for giving me a heads up. I'll have to do some more digging and see what's available. - Paul On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 22:59, FemmeFatale wrote: Oops... forgot to say skip it in favour of the vanilla GEForce 2 Cards. The un-neutered variety like the one I have, a Creative Annhilator 2 GeForce2. Find it on Creative's site if you wish to see the difference. I have a 32 mb version of it. Not great but it'll do for now. --- Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3D Graphics card for 9.0? (3 questions)
At 11:13 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, you wrote: Wow, so a Geforce4 MX will run worse than a Geforce2 vanilla? That's not a very good naming convention then. Thanks for giving me a heads up. I'll have to do some more digging and see what's available. - Paul On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 22:59, FemmeFatale wrote: Oops... forgot to say skip it in favour of the vanilla GEForce 2 Cards. The un-neutered variety like the one I have, a Creative Annhilator 2 GeForce2. Find it on Creative's site if you wish to see the difference. I have a 32 mb version of it. Not great but it'll do for now. --- Femme Email me off list if you wish some research help. I'll be glad to tell you what I know can find/have found when I went hunting for a GeForce2 too 2 years ago. - Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
