Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Friday 31 January 2003 10:11 pm, John Rye wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:23:45 -0700 Charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do what I do when considering hardware for a GNU/Linux box. Walk into the vendor's place of business with a Knoppix disk; ask for a floor display model with that hardware installed, and ask to be allowed to boot from the CD-ROM. If you're asked tell them (truthfully) that it doesn't write anything to the hard drive(s) unless specifically instructed to do so, and that it's probably one of the best tools available to check for hardware compatibility with the operating system the devices will be using at their new home. If the answer is anything other than sure go ahead pick a new vendor. My point exactly ... John I know you did John. I just took the opportunity to vote in your favour. A second opinion if you will. I could have just said I agree but that wouldn't be so clear nor would it have expressed the reasons for the agreement. I agree. (and you got there first.) :-) Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org Happiness is twin floppies. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 1:50 am, John Rye wrote: I'm running Mandrake 9.0 on a Soltek SL-KT400-A4/7 Socket A board, Via KT133 series, running an Athlon-XP 1800 with no problems. Thanks for that. For your interest a good test of a mother board is to locate, aquire,steal, borrow or of coarse d/l Knoppix. Now that's an interesting thought. No good in this situation, because I'll have to buy it before I can test it, but a good idea for checking out existing older computers. Thanks. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:19:54 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 31 Jan 2003 1:50 am, John Rye wrote: I'm running Mandrake 9.0 on a Soltek SL-KT400-A4/7 Socket A board, Via KT133 series, running an Athlon-XP 1800 with no problems. Thanks for that. For your interest a good test of a mother board is to locate, aquire,steal, borrow or of coarse d/l Knoppix. Now that's an interesting thought. No good in this situation, because I'll have to buy it before I can test it, but a good idea for checking out existing older computers. Thanks. I mildly disagree Anne, if the vender needs or wants the sale they will want to find a way to prove their product does what they advertise. I guess it is a little more difficult if you purchasing from a remote source (as I was), but I was able to use a 'return on failure to perform' promise made by the vendor. (Do you have any consumer protection legistation you could invoke?) Cheers John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 4:44 pm, John Rye wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:19:54 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 31 Jan 2003 1:50 am, John Rye wrote: I'm running Mandrake 9.0 on a Soltek SL-KT400-A4/7 Socket A board, Via KT133 series, running an Athlon-XP 1800 with no problems. Thanks for that. For your interest a good test of a mother board is to locate, aquire,steal, borrow or of coarse d/l Knoppix. Now that's an interesting thought. No good in this situation, because I'll have to buy it before I can test it, but a good idea for checking out existing older computers. Thanks. I mildly disagree Anne, if the vender needs or wants the sale they will want to find a way to prove their product does what they advertise. I guess it is a little more difficult if you purchasing from a remote source (as I was), but I was able to use a 'return on failure to perform' promise made by the vendor. Good for you. It seems only fair, though, that you should in return give him some publicity. I won't be shipping from nz, but someone else here might be interested in knowing him :) (Do you have any consumer protection legistation you could invoke?) In theory, yes. In practice, no. To invoke the 'fit for purpose' you have to clearly state at the time of purchase what is was that you wanted it to do. Say the dreaded word 'linux' and 99 out of 100 vendors will say, 'Don't know - can't say. We don't support linux' Under those circumstances they haven't told you it would, so you take the whole responsibility. They won't take it back unless you can prove it to be physically faulty in a way that you could not have caused. Our day will come - but not today. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Monday 27 January 2003 06:14 pm, you wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 2:47 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Anne, I am, can't remember which one (I am at work) it had drv75 or something similar in the name. It works fine. Thanks, Tony. If you could post the model number when you get home I would be grateful. I may have to buy another board by the weekend :( Anne Anne, I am. It's now a couple of years old, but works fine with LM8.1 It's a 65FVB. Rob PS Am running the latest version of Soltek's BIOS [N3], but don't imagine this would have much to do with the board's ability to support Mandrake. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
Anne, I did email last night, but it bounced for some reason. It is a sl-75drv2. Tony. -Original Message- From: Tony S. Sykes Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo? Anne, When I get home I will tell you the name, but I dual boot w2k and mdk 9 (used to be 8.2,8.0 and a 7) and at the moment it is up nearly 24/7 I occasionally reboot into windows to play a few games that winex does not work with. Tony. -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo? On Monday 27 Jan 2003 5:19 pm, D.W.BEAN wrote: Thanks Jacobite. 75KAV and 75DRV5-C are on the list offered by my vendor, so that's hopeful. The system has to be a dual-boot, so I wanted to be sure. Well i triple boot win 9x win 2000 xp on my work station and on my server i have same mobo and duel boot mandy 9 + 2000 and its ok dont know if this helps theSL_75KAV AS BEEN RUNING 24 / 7 FOR ABOUT A YEAR NO PROBS Great news - thanks Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 6:49 am, Rob Lindsay wrote: On Monday 27 January 2003 06:14 pm, you wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 2:47 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Anne, I am, can't remember which one (I am at work) it had drv75 or something similar in the name. It works fine. Thanks, Tony. If you could post the model number when you get home I would be grateful. I may have to buy another board by the weekend :( Anne Anne, I am. It's now a couple of years old, but works fine with LM8.1 It's a 65FVB. Rob PS Am running the latest version of Soltek's BIOS [N3], but don't imagine this would have much to do with the board's ability to support Mandrake. Thanks to all of you. If it does turn out that the mobo in question is dodgy I will feel reasonably safe in buying the Soltek, then. I've used their boards in win only machines, but not yet on a linux one. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 9:02 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Anne, I did email last night, but it bounced for some reason. It is a sl-75drv2. Thanks, Tony - you're all very re-assuring. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:54, Anne Wilson wrote: I have read that there have been problems installing RH on Soltek mobos. Is anyone using one with Mandrake? Anne I have the SL-75KAV. There were hardware issues with the 686B Southbridge and the KT133A Northbridge in MDK8.0. A workaround was provided from MDK8.1 onwards. Results of that issue: UDMA was crippled so my hard drive disk reads were approx 18 MB/sec (instead of 36 MB/sec). Also crippled CD burning for others with these chipsets although I had no problem burning. One other thing, the BIOS (even with the update) on this mobo could not recognise the full capacity of the 60GB IBM Deskstar DTLA 307060 that I used to have - so had to use the dynamic drive overlay (very sucky-moto). The drive's full capacity was recognised in my other PCs (diff mobos). Was actually quite relieved when that crappy drive died! Not sure whether that was the BIOS's fault or the hard drive's?? Since getting rid of that drive and now with MDK9.0 I haven't had a problem. RedHat 7.2 and 7.3 were fine too (currently not installed). Had no probs with this mobo in Win98SE until I added a GEForce2 GTS Pro 64MB graphics card + SBLive! 5.1 sound card - then crash, crash, crash... so uninstalled Win98SE... Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 8:42 pm, Sharrea wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:54, Anne Wilson wrote: I have read that there have been problems installing RH on Soltek mobos. Is anyone using one with Mandrake? Anne I have the SL-75KAV. There were hardware issues with the 686B Southbridge and the KT133A Northbridge in MDK8.0. A workaround was provided from MDK8.1 onwards. Results of that issue: UDMA was crippled so my hard drive disk reads were approx 18 MB/sec (instead of 36 MB/sec). Also crippled CD burning for others with these chipsets although I had no problem burning. One other thing, the BIOS (even with the update) on this mobo could not recognise the full capacity of the 60GB IBM Deskstar DTLA 307060 that I used to have - so had to use the dynamic drive overlay (very sucky-moto). The drive's full capacity was recognised in my other PCs (diff mobos). Was actually quite relieved when that crappy drive died! Not sure whether that was the BIOS's fault or the hard drive's?? Since getting rid of that drive and now with MDK9.0 I haven't had a problem. RedHat 7.2 and 7.3 were fine too (currently not installed). Had no probs with this mobo in Win98SE until I added a GEForce2 GTS Pro 64MB graphics card + SBLive! 5.1 sound card - then crash, crash, crash... so uninstalled Win98SE... Thanks, Sharrea. The mobo that I think is failing is a 75KAV. I think the ide controller is dodgy. I'm having it tested at my supplier's lab, but I expect to be told that it will have to go. I'm thinking of a 75DRV to replace it. It's for my grandson, who needs it for his gcse work (he's doing IT, so he needs to run various apps in windows, though he has relegated his games playing to x-box), but he also wants to explore Mandrake, so the plan was to put in a new bigger HDD and give him dual-boot. Unfortunately, I'm having intermittant problems with the bios seeing drives on the primary ide, so I suspect it is dig deep in the wallet time :( Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:54:18 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read that there have been problems installing RH on Soltek mobos. Is anyone using one with Mandrake? Anne I'm running Mandrake 9.0 on a Soltek SL-KT400-A4/7 Socket A board, Via KT133 series, running an Athlon-XP 1800 with no problems. 1 x AGP Slot 5 x PCI slots 3 x DDR Ram for a max of 3GB USB Smart card reader And of course it's screened in a pretty irridesant(?sp?) mauve (This was the swinger for me!!) Only one 'however' and it's kernel related - to do with reassigning IRQs during boot up. The kernel deals with this and just carries on regardless. === For your interest a good test of a mother board is to locate, aquire,steal, borrow or of coarse d/l Knoppix. It's run-off-the-cd system. Real fast, Real Smart, Debian based (I think). I used it on the several boards I was 'offered' before I chose this pretty one. The test criteria was simply if Knoppix booted through sweetly and there where no issues playing with the many apps on the cd - then it was a in contention! Oddly, the Soltex and Gigabyte were the only ones which passed, NONE of the PCChips boards passed, price (and colour) ruled in the end! Cheers John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
Anne, I am, can't remember which one (I am at work) it had drv75 or something similar in the name. It works fine. Tony. -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo? I have read that there have been problems installing RH on Soltek mobos. Is anyone using one with Mandrake? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 2:47 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Anne, I am, can't remember which one (I am at work) it had drv75 or something similar in the name. It works fine. Thanks, Tony. If you could post the model number when you get home I would be grateful. I may have to buy another board by the weekend :( Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 2:47 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Anne, I am, can't remember which one (I am at work) it had drv75 or something similar in the name. It works fine. Thanks, Tony. If you could post the model number when you get home I would be grateful. I may have to buy another board by the weekend :( Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I use Solteksl-75kav this works ok ? -- jakobite1.5#@ 1.75 yrs its all gone tits up lads Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 3:14 pm, D.W.BEAN wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 2:47 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Anne, I am, can't remember which one (I am at work) it had drv75 or something similar in the name. It works fine. Thanks, Tony. If you could post the model number when you get home I would be grateful. I may have to buy another board by the weekend :( I use Solteksl-75kav this works ok ? Thanks Jacobite. 75KAV and 75DRV5-C are on the list offered by my vendor, so that's hopeful. The system has to be a dual-boot, so I wanted to be sure. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 27 Jan 2003 3:14 pm, D.W.BEAN wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 2:47 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Anne, I am, can't remember which one (I am at work) it had drv75 or something similar in the name. It works fine. Thanks, Tony. If you could post the model number when you get home I would be grateful. I may have to buy another board by the weekend :( I use Solteksl-75kav this works ok ? Thanks Jacobite. 75KAV and 75DRV5-C are on the list offered by my vendor, so that's hopeful. The system has to be a dual-boot, so I wanted to be sure. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well i triple boot win 9x win 2000 xp on my work station and on my server i have same mobo and duel boot mandy 9 + 2000 and its ok dont know if this helps theSL_75KAV AS BEEN RUNING 24 / 7 FOR ABOUT A YEAR NO PROBS -- jakobite1.5#@ 1.75 yrs its all gone tits up lads Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 5:19 pm, D.W.BEAN wrote: Thanks Jacobite. 75KAV and 75DRV5-C are on the list offered by my vendor, so that's hopeful. The system has to be a dual-boot, so I wanted to be sure. Well i triple boot win 9x win 2000 xp on my work station and on my server i have same mobo and duel boot mandy 9 + 2000 and its ok dont know if this helps theSL_75KAV AS BEEN RUNING 24 / 7 FOR ABOUT A YEAR NO PROBS Great news - thanks Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?
Anne, When I get home I will tell you the name, but I dual boot w2k and mdk 9 (used to be 8.2,8.0 and a 7) and at the moment it is up nearly 24/7 I occasionally reboot into windows to play a few games that winex does not work with. Tony. -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo? On Monday 27 Jan 2003 5:19 pm, D.W.BEAN wrote: Thanks Jacobite. 75KAV and 75DRV5-C are on the list offered by my vendor, so that's hopeful. The system has to be a dual-boot, so I wanted to be sure. Well i triple boot win 9x win 2000 xp on my work station and on my server i have same mobo and duel boot mandy 9 + 2000 and its ok dont know if this helps theSL_75KAV AS BEEN RUNING 24 / 7 FOR ABOUT A YEAR NO PROBS Great news - thanks Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com