Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-02-01 Thread Charlie
On Friday 31 January 2003 10:11 pm, John Rye wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:23:45 -0700

 Charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Do what I do when considering hardware for a GNU/Linux box. Walk into
  the vendor's place of business with a Knoppix disk; ask for a floor
  display model with that hardware installed, and ask to be allowed to
  boot from the CD-ROM. If you're asked tell them (truthfully) that it
  doesn't write anything to the hard drive(s) unless specifically
  instructed to do so, and that it's probably one of the best tools
  available to check for hardware compatibility with the operating
  system the devices will be using at their new home.
 
  If the answer is anything other than sure go ahead pick a new
  vendor.

 My point exactly ...

 John

I know you did John. I just took the opportunity to vote in your favour. A 
second opinion if you will.

I could have just said I agree but that wouldn't be so clear nor would it 
have expressed the reasons for the agreement.

I agree. (and you got there first.) :-)

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Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 1:50 am, John Rye wrote:

 I'm running Mandrake 9.0 on a Soltek SL-KT400-A4/7 Socket A board, Via
 KT133 series, running an Athlon-XP 1800 with no problems.

Thanks for that.

 For your interest a good test of a mother board is to locate,
 aquire,steal, borrow or of coarse d/l Knoppix.

Now that's an interesting thought.  No good in this situation, because I'll 
have to buy it before I can test it, but a good idea for checking out 
existing older computers.  Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-31 Thread John Rye
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:19:54 +
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 31 Jan 2003 1:50 am, John Rye wrote:
 
  I'm running Mandrake 9.0 on a Soltek SL-KT400-A4/7 Socket A board,
  Via KT133 series, running an Athlon-XP 1800 with no problems.
 
 Thanks for that.
 
  For your interest a good test of a mother board is to locate,
  aquire,steal, borrow or of coarse d/l Knoppix.
 
 Now that's an interesting thought.  No good in this situation, because
 I'll have to buy it before I can test it, but a good idea for checking
 out existing older computers.  Thanks.

I mildly disagree Anne, if the vender needs or wants the sale they will
want to find a way to prove their product does what they advertise.

I guess it is a little more difficult if you purchasing from a remote
source (as I was), but I was able to use a 'return on failure to perform'
promise made by the vendor.

(Do you have any consumer protection legistation you could invoke?)

Cheers

John


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Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 4:44 pm, John Rye wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:19:54 +

 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Friday 31 Jan 2003 1:50 am, John Rye wrote:
   I'm running Mandrake 9.0 on a Soltek SL-KT400-A4/7 Socket A board,
   Via KT133 series, running an Athlon-XP 1800 with no problems.
 
  Thanks for that.
 
   For your interest a good test of a mother board is to locate,
   aquire,steal, borrow or of coarse d/l Knoppix.
 
  Now that's an interesting thought.  No good in this situation, because
  I'll have to buy it before I can test it, but a good idea for checking
  out existing older computers.  Thanks.

 I mildly disagree Anne, if the vender needs or wants the sale they will
 want to find a way to prove their product does what they advertise.

 I guess it is a little more difficult if you purchasing from a remote
 source (as I was), but I was able to use a 'return on failure to perform'
 promise made by the vendor.

Good for you.  It seems only fair, though, that you should in return give him 
some publicity.  I won't be shipping from nz, but someone else here might be 
interested in knowing him :)


 (Do you have any consumer protection legistation you could invoke?)

In theory, yes.  In practice, no.  To invoke the 'fit for purpose' you have to 
clearly state at the time of purchase what is was that you wanted it to do.  
Say the dreaded word 'linux' and 99 out of 100 vendors will say, 'Don't know 
- can't say.  We don't support linux'  Under those circumstances they haven't 
told you it would, so you take the whole responsibility.  They won't take it 
back unless you can prove it to be physically faulty in a way that you could 
not have caused.

Our day will come - but not today.

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Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-30 Thread Rob Lindsay
On Monday 27 January 2003 06:14 pm, you wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 2:47 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
 Anne,
 
 I am, can't remember which one (I am at work) it had drv75 or something
 similar in the name. It works fine.
 
 Thanks, Tony.  If you could post the model number when you get home I
  would be grateful.  I may have to buy another board by the weekend :(
 
 Anne

Anne,

I am.

It's now a couple of years old, but works fine with LM8.1

It's a 65FVB.

Rob

PS Am running the latest version of Soltek's BIOS [N3], but don't imagine 
this would have much to do with the board's ability to support Mandrake.


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RE: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-30 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Anne,

I did email last night, but it bounced for some reason. It is a
sl-75drv2.

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Tony S. Sykes 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?


Anne,

When I get home I will tell you the name, but I dual boot w2k and mdk 9
(used to be 8.2,8.0 and a 7) and at the moment it is up nearly 24/7 I
occasionally reboot into windows to play a few games that winex does not
work with.

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?


On Monday 27 Jan 2003 5:19 pm, D.W.BEAN wrote:
 Thanks Jacobite.  75KAV and 75DRV5-C are on the list offered by my
vendor,
  so that's hopeful.  The system has to be a dual-boot, so I wanted to
be
  sure.

 Well i triple boot win 9x win 2000  xp on my work station  and on my
 server i have same mobo and duel boot mandy 9 + 2000 and its ok dont
 know if this helps  theSL_75KAV AS BEEN RUNING 24 / 7 FOR ABOUT A YEAR
 NO PROBS 

Great news - thanks

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Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 6:49 am, Rob Lindsay wrote:
 On Monday 27 January 2003 06:14 pm, you wrote:
  Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 2:47 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
  Anne,
  
  I am, can't remember which one (I am at work) it had drv75 or something
  similar in the name. It works fine.
  
  Thanks, Tony.  If you could post the model number when you get home I
   would be grateful.  I may have to buy another board by the weekend :(
  
  Anne

 Anne,

 I am.

 It's now a couple of years old, but works fine with LM8.1

 It's a 65FVB.

 Rob

 PS Am running the latest version of Soltek's BIOS [N3], but don't imagine
 this would have much to do with the board's ability to support Mandrake.

Thanks to all of you.  If it does turn out that the mobo in question is dodgy 
I will feel reasonably safe in buying the Soltek, then.  I've used their 
boards in win only machines, but not yet on a linux one.

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Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 9:02 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
 Anne,

 I did email last night, but it bounced for some reason. It is a
 sl-75drv2.

Thanks, Tony - you're all very re-assuring.

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Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-30 Thread Sharrea
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:54, Anne Wilson wrote:
 I have read that there have been problems installing RH on Soltek mobos. 
 Is anyone using one with Mandrake?

 Anne

I have the SL-75KAV.  There were hardware issues with the 686B Southbridge 
and the KT133A Northbridge in MDK8.0.  A workaround was provided from 
MDK8.1 onwards.  Results of that issue: UDMA was crippled so my hard drive 
disk reads were approx 18 MB/sec (instead of 36 MB/sec).  Also crippled CD 
burning for others with these chipsets although I had no problem burning.

One other thing, the BIOS (even with the update) on this mobo could not 
recognise the full capacity of the 60GB IBM Deskstar DTLA 307060 that I 
used to have - so had to use the dynamic drive overlay (very sucky-moto).  
The drive's full capacity was recognised in my other PCs (diff mobos). Was 
actually quite relieved when that crappy drive died!  Not sure whether that 
was the BIOS's fault or the hard drive's??

Since getting rid of that drive and now with MDK9.0 I haven't had a problem.

RedHat 7.2 and 7.3 were fine too (currently not installed).

Had no probs with this mobo in Win98SE until I added a GEForce2 GTS Pro 64MB 
graphics card + SBLive! 5.1 sound card - then crash, crash, crash... so 
uninstalled Win98SE...

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Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 30 Jan 2003 8:42 pm, Sharrea wrote:
 On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:54, Anne Wilson wrote:
  I have read that there have been problems installing RH on Soltek mobos.
  Is anyone using one with Mandrake?
 
  Anne

 I have the SL-75KAV.  There were hardware issues with the 686B Southbridge
 and the KT133A Northbridge in MDK8.0.  A workaround was provided from
 MDK8.1 onwards.  Results of that issue: UDMA was crippled so my hard drive
 disk reads were approx 18 MB/sec (instead of 36 MB/sec).  Also crippled CD
 burning for others with these chipsets although I had no problem burning.

 One other thing, the BIOS (even with the update) on this mobo could not
 recognise the full capacity of the 60GB IBM Deskstar DTLA 307060 that I
 used to have - so had to use the dynamic drive overlay (very sucky-moto).
 The drive's full capacity was recognised in my other PCs (diff mobos). Was
 actually quite relieved when that crappy drive died!  Not sure whether that
 was the BIOS's fault or the hard drive's??

 Since getting rid of that drive and now with MDK9.0 I haven't had a
 problem.

 RedHat 7.2 and 7.3 were fine too (currently not installed).

 Had no probs with this mobo in Win98SE until I added a GEForce2 GTS Pro
 64MB graphics card + SBLive! 5.1 sound card - then crash, crash, crash...
 so uninstalled Win98SE...

Thanks, Sharrea.  The mobo that I think is failing is a 75KAV.  I think the 
ide controller is dodgy.  I'm having it tested at my supplier's lab, but I 
expect to be told that it will have to go.  I'm thinking of a 75DRV to 
replace it.  It's for my grandson, who needs it for his gcse work (he's doing 
IT, so he needs to run various apps in windows, though he has relegated his 
games playing to x-box), but he also wants to explore Mandrake, so the plan 
was to put in a new bigger HDD and give him dual-boot.  Unfortunately, I'm 
having intermittant problems with the bios seeing drives on the primary ide, 
so I suspect it is dig deep in the wallet time :(

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Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-30 Thread John Rye
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:54:18 +
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have read that there have been problems installing RH on Soltek
 mobos.  Is anyone using one with Mandrake?
 

Anne

I'm running Mandrake 9.0 on a Soltek SL-KT400-A4/7 Socket A board, Via
KT133 series, running an Athlon-XP 1800 with no problems.

1 x AGP Slot
5 x PCI slots
3 x DDR Ram for a max of 3GB
USB
Smart card reader

And of course it's screened in a pretty irridesant(?sp?) mauve
(This was the swinger for me!!)

Only one 'however' and it's kernel related - to do with reassigning IRQs
during boot up. The kernel deals with this and just carries on
regardless.

===

For your interest a good test of a mother board is to locate,
aquire,steal, borrow or of coarse d/l Knoppix.

It's run-off-the-cd system. Real fast, Real Smart, Debian based (I
think). I used it on the several boards I was 'offered' before I chose
this pretty one. 

The test criteria was simply if Knoppix booted through sweetly and there
where no issues playing with the many apps on the cd - then it was a in
contention!

Oddly, the Soltex and Gigabyte were the only ones which passed, NONE of
the PCChips boards passed, price (and colour) ruled in the end!

Cheers

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RE: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-29 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Anne,

I am, can't remember which one (I am at work) it had drv75 or something
similar in the name. It works fine.

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?


I have read that there have been problems installing RH on Soltek mobos.
Is 
anyone using one with Mandrake?

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Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 2:47 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
 Anne,

 I am, can't remember which one (I am at work) it had drv75 or something
 similar in the name. It works fine.

Thanks, Tony.  If you could post the model number when you get home I would be 
grateful.  I may have to buy another board by the weekend :(

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Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-29 Thread D.W.BEAN
Anne Wilson wrote:


On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 2:47 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
 

Anne,

I am, can't remember which one (I am at work) it had drv75 or something
similar in the name. It works fine.

   

Thanks, Tony.  If you could post the model number when you get home I would be 
grateful.  I may have to buy another board by the weekend :(

Anne
 



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I use Solteksl-75kav this works ok ?

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Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 3:14 pm, D.W.BEAN wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 2:47 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
 Anne,
 
 I am, can't remember which one (I am at work) it had drv75 or something
 similar in the name. It works fine.
 
 Thanks, Tony.  If you could post the model number when you get home I
  would be grateful.  I may have to buy another board by the weekend :(

 I use Solteksl-75kav this works ok ?

Thanks Jacobite.  75KAV and 75DRV5-C are on the list offered by my vendor, so 
that's hopeful.  The system has to be a dual-boot, so I wanted to be sure.

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Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-29 Thread D.W.BEAN
Anne Wilson wrote:


On Monday 27 Jan 2003 3:14 pm, D.W.BEAN wrote:
 

Anne Wilson wrote:
   

On Wednesday 29 Jan 2003 2:47 pm, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
 

Anne,

I am, can't remember which one (I am at work) it had drv75 or something
similar in the name. It works fine.
   

Thanks, Tony.  If you could post the model number when you get home I
would be grateful.  I may have to buy another board by the weekend :(
 

I use Solteksl-75kav this works ok ?
   


Thanks Jacobite.  75KAV and 75DRV5-C are on the list offered by my vendor, so 
that's hopeful.  The system has to be a dual-boot, so I wanted to be sure.

Anne
 



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Well i triple boot win 9x win 2000  xp on my work station  and on my 
server i have same mobo and duel boot mandy 9 + 2000 and its ok dont 
know if this helps  theSL_75KAV AS BEEN RUNING 24 / 7 FOR ABOUT A YEAR 
NO PROBS 

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Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 5:19 pm, D.W.BEAN wrote:
 Thanks Jacobite.  75KAV and 75DRV5-C are on the list offered by my vendor,
  so that's hopeful.  The system has to be a dual-boot, so I wanted to be
  sure.

 Well i triple boot win 9x win 2000  xp on my work station  and on my
 server i have same mobo and duel boot mandy 9 + 2000 and its ok dont
 know if this helps  theSL_75KAV AS BEEN RUNING 24 / 7 FOR ABOUT A YEAR
 NO PROBS 

Great news - thanks

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RE: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?

2003-01-29 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Anne,

When I get home I will tell you the name, but I dual boot w2k and mdk 9
(used to be 8.2,8.0 and a 7) and at the moment it is up nearly 24/7 I
occasionally reboot into windows to play a few games that winex does not
work with.

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Anyone using a Soltek mobo?


On Monday 27 Jan 2003 5:19 pm, D.W.BEAN wrote:
 Thanks Jacobite.  75KAV and 75DRV5-C are on the list offered by my
vendor,
  so that's hopeful.  The system has to be a dual-boot, so I wanted to
be
  sure.

 Well i triple boot win 9x win 2000  xp on my work station  and on my
 server i have same mobo and duel boot mandy 9 + 2000 and its ok dont
 know if this helps  theSL_75KAV AS BEEN RUNING 24 / 7 FOR ABOUT A YEAR
 NO PROBS 

Great news - thanks

Anne
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