Re: [newbie] Applix Word / StarOffice review

2000-11-04 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Friday 03 November 2000 07:41 pm, Adrian Smith wrote:
 hey Mark
 i have StarOffice 5.2 in RPM form.  got it with mandrake 7.1..
 are you talking about a different version of SO?

 There's also OpenOffice on cooker mirrors:
/packages/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/
openoffice-6.0.5-1mdk.i586.rpm  (47mb)

 This is the development of Staroffice using Sun's recently 
released source code.   http://openoffice.org/

/home/tom $ rpm -qpil openoffice-6.0.5-1mdk.i586.rpm
Name: openoffice   Relocations: (not 
relocateable)
Version : 6.0.5 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Tue 24 Oct 
2000 05:08:47 AM CDT
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: 
bi.mandrakesoft.com
Group   : OfficeSource RPM: 
openoffice-6.0.5-1mdk.src.rpm
Size: 55178300 License: LGPL
Packager: Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Summary : Open Office
Description :
OpenOffice.org is a unified suite of productivity applications
for all common office applications, including such functions
as word processing, spreadsheets, drawings, presentations, data 
charting
and formula editing.

WARNING : This is not a stable release and does not include all 
features  (such as printing ...)

To install OpenOffice, as a user, you must run :
cd /usr/lib/openoffice-6.0.5
./setup
---
  I d/l'd and installed it out of curiosity.  It does still work 
with M$ Office files, but it is missing a lot of other functionality.
-- 
Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

 or something else?

 yea, i'm always confuzed

 Adrian Smith
 'de telepone dude
 Telecom Dept.
 x 7042
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7:08:03 PM 11/4/00 

 Larry,

 It would be wonderful to get SO in RPM form. My Celeron
 workstation at work just cannot deal with Sun's compression format
 to get the darn app installed for love or money.





Re: [newbie] Applix Word / StarOffice review

2000-11-04 Thread Larry Marshall

  There's also OpenOffice on cooker mirrors:
 /packages/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/
 openoffice-6.0.5-1mdk.i586.rpm  (47mb)

Have you tested these Tom?  I thought they were saying that they were
pretty flakey right now in terms of the compile scripts.

Cheers --- Larry






Re: [newbie] Applix Word / StarOffice review

2000-11-04 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Saturday 04 November 2000 09:08 am, Larry Marshall wrote:
   There's also OpenOffice on cooker mirrors:
  /packages/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/
  openoffice-6.0.5-1mdk.i586.rpm  (47mb)

 Have you tested these Tom?  I thought they were saying that they
 were pretty flakey right now in terms of the compile scripts.

 Cheers --- Larry

   I took a brief look at it. Only problem I had was I had to su to 
root to run the 'soffice' executable. All the rpm does is install 
the setup files, installation is just like with StarOffice. No 
problems there. It also didn't install a KDE menu entry. I believe 
that may have been my fault tho. I suspect I may have absentmindedly 
installed as root instead of user.  While I'd classify it as usable, 
I doubt someone who needs a word proccessor to get any serious work 
done would agree ;)  I'd also describe it's appearance as similar to 
that of Mozilla as compared to NutScrape.  A lot of eye candy is 
missing. GUI is sort'a kind' 'flat'.

   With Mdk's rpm there no compiling to do.  The 'compile scripts' 
problems is something I had also heard. That it was a real pain to 
get the Sun released source to compile/install. Either that's not 
the case or Mandrake developers (once again) did a great job fixin' 
it. Other than the user induced problem (me ;), it installed 
smoothly, ran stabily.  The missing functionality in Openoffice is 
unavoidable. It's not that some things like printing don't work, 
they're not even there. Sun didn't have authority to release some 
parts of SO's source.  I forget the reasons why tho. 
-- 
Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




Re: [newbie] Applix Word / StarOffice review

2000-11-03 Thread Larry Marshall

 but very good.  the author uses both products, and finds both fault  greatness in 
each.  i think it's a very objective look at each product.
 i would hope that in the last year Applix has fixed some of the problems he finds 
with their product.  but what is bad is that the few faults he found with StarOffice 
a year ago are the things i still don't like about it.  come on guys change is 
good.

Adrian, right now the work on Star Office is to get all the source code
into compilable rpms.  This is a basic difference between Star Office and
Applix that can't be denied or understated.  While I'm not against
commercial software, I suspect we'll see some really significant
development going on with SO code in the next year or so.

Cheers --- Larry






Re: [newbie] Applix Word / StarOffice review

2000-11-03 Thread Adrian Smith

hey Mark
i have StarOffice 5.2 in RPM form.  got it with mandrake 7.1..
are you talking about a different version of SO?
or something else?

yea, i'm always confuzed

Adrian Smith
'de telepone dude
Telecom Dept.
x 7042
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7:08:03 PM 11/4/00 
Larry,

It would be wonderful to get SO in RPM form. My Celeron workstation at
work just cannot deal with Sun's compression format to get the darn app
installed for love or money.

-- 
Mark






Re: [newbie] Applix Word / StarOffice review

2000-11-03 Thread Mark Weaver

As a matter of fact I'm talking about the very thing. I'd really love it
if somehow you could make that available to me as an RPM. I just might be
able to get SO installed on my workstation that way.

-- 
Mark

Larry is NOT a cucumber...he's a stinkin pickle...
WITH WARTS!

  registered linux user # 182496
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Surprisingly on Fri, 3 Nov 2000 Adrian Smith had this to say!

 hey Mark
 i have StarOffice 5.2 in RPM form.  got it with mandrake 7.1..
 are you talking about a different version of SO?
 or something else?
 
 yea, i'm always confuzed
 
 Adrian Smith
 'de telepone dude
 Telecom Dept.
 x 7042
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7:08:03 PM 11/4/00 
 Larry,
 
 It would be wonderful to get SO in RPM form. My Celeron workstation at
 work just cannot deal with Sun's compression format to get the darn app
 installed for love or money.