Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-31 Thread James Mellema

Mark Hillary wrote:
> 
> Does anyone here know why a background cann't be desplayed on KDM. Also is
> there a fix for it. I am useing the KDE that came with the downloaded
> version of Mandrake 7.2
> 
> Cheers to anyon that can help. And happy new year to you all.
> 
> Mark Hillary
Mark,

Right click on the desktop>configure background, click on WallPaper tab,
change Mode to No Wallpaper. The default has a colored WallPaper that
covers the entire screen. I don't know why, its not very aesthetic.

-- 
Jim
--
James Mellema, CRNA
--
Linux User # 71650




Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-31 Thread Mark Weaver

Yeah yeah yeah...  :) yuck it up. If I get this working though, (not
holding my breath - I might pass out) it would be cool!

Mark

Roger Sherman wrote:
> 
> Hey Mark, my email client uses Procmail just fine! ;-) Pine, by the
> way...;-p
> 
> peace,
> 
> Rog
> http://www.slammingrooves.com
> Registered Linux user #19071
> 
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Mark Weaver wrote:
> 
> > Nope...you are correct and this fact leaves me wondering how in the world I
> > can filter duplicate messages with Kmail filtering technology.
> >
> > How about it MandrakeSoft? Any ideas? That, or a good solid method of using
> > Procmail filtering with Kmail as one would use with Pine.
> > --
> > Mark
> >
> > "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
> > "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
> >
> >   Linus Torvalds
> >
> > On Friday 29 December 2000 13:47, you wrote:
> > > I thought I am the only person to receive multiple copies! There were (13)
> > > copies of this posting 
> > >
> > > At 28-12-2000 +1100, you wrote:
> > > >On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:04, ZER0 FREQUENCY wrote:
> > > > > John Arkoulis wrote:
> > > > > >Can you please point me at a site (independent) that I can compare the
> > > > > > new fast CPUs (P4 1.4, Dual G4, Athlon)
> > > > > >Yes I know G4 is a MAC.
> > > > > >Which one do you think is best for Linux???
> > > > > >Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > I personally like AMD. Although linux mostly supports intel. Not
> > > > > much change since AMD has intel-compatible microprocessors.
> > > >
> > > >http://www.tomshardware.com has great PC CPU (i.e. no Mac) reviews. It
> > > >recently has done extensive testing on the Pentium 4, comparing it to
> > > > other Intel and AMD processors. It generally concludes that AMD chips are
> > > > better, since they are significantly cheaper for about the same
> > > > performance. The Pentium 4, it says, is difficult to compare to other
> > > > CPUs since there are currrently no programmes that can take advantage of
> > > > its new instructions. This is particularly important in the floating
> > > > point department (i.e. mathematical calculations), where it rates poorly
> > > > on current apps that are unoptimised for it. It will be quite some time
> > > > before programmes can use the Pentium 4 well, so until then we should use
> > > > more conventional CPUs.
> > > >
> > > >There is nothing wrong with using a Mac for Linux. PowerPC chips, like
> > > > Alphas and SunSparcs, are based on RISC technology (Intel and AMD use
> > > > CISC), which is typically better for complex mathematical calculations.
> > > > If this is not a consideration, then CISC will do.
> > > >
> > > >In the end, it depends on what you want to do with the CPU that matters.
> > > > If you want to run Windows in a dual-boot configuration and/or run many
> > > > games, the x86 (i.e. Intel and AMD) architecture would be a better
> > > > choice. It also makes installing apps a lot easier (it's easier to find
> > > > ready-made i386, i586 or i686 binaries, hence you won't have to compile
> > > > code). In this case, I strongly recommend AMD, for the same reasons that
> > > > www.tomshardware.com does. If you plan to do much scientific and
> > > > mathematical work, then RISC (whether it be PowerPC, Alpha, SunSparc or
> > > > something else) is probably better (as long as you can find the
> > > > programmes you need).
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Sridhar Dhanapalan.
> > > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge
> > > > this change.
> >
> >
> >
> >




Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-30 Thread Mark Hillary

Does anyone here know why a background cann't be desplayed on KDM. Also is
there a fix for it. I am useing the KDE that came with the downloaded
version of Mandrake 7.2

Cheers to anyon that can help. And happy new year to you all.

Mark Hillary





Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-30 Thread Roger Sherman

Hey Mark, my email client uses Procmail just fine! ;-) Pine, by the
way...;-p


peace,

Rog
http://www.slammingrooves.com
Registered Linux user #19071

On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Mark Weaver wrote:

> Nope...you are correct and this fact leaves me wondering how in the world I
> can filter duplicate messages with Kmail filtering technology.
>
> How about it MandrakeSoft? Any ideas? That, or a good solid method of using
> Procmail filtering with Kmail as one would use with Pine.
> --
> Mark
>
> "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
> "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
>
>   Linus Torvalds
>
> On Friday 29 December 2000 13:47, you wrote:
> > I thought I am the only person to receive multiple copies! There were (13)
> > copies of this posting 
> >
> > At 28-12-2000 +1100, you wrote:
> > >On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:04, ZER0 FREQUENCY wrote:
> > > > John Arkoulis wrote:
> > > > >Can you please point me at a site (independent) that I can compare the
> > > > > new fast CPUs (P4 1.4, Dual G4, Athlon)
> > > > >Yes I know G4 is a MAC.
> > > > >Which one do you think is best for Linux???
> > > > >Thanks
> > > >
> > > > I personally like AMD. Although linux mostly supports intel. Not
> > > > much change since AMD has intel-compatible microprocessors.
> > >
> > >http://www.tomshardware.com has great PC CPU (i.e. no Mac) reviews. It
> > >recently has done extensive testing on the Pentium 4, comparing it to
> > > other Intel and AMD processors. It generally concludes that AMD chips are
> > > better, since they are significantly cheaper for about the same
> > > performance. The Pentium 4, it says, is difficult to compare to other
> > > CPUs since there are currrently no programmes that can take advantage of
> > > its new instructions. This is particularly important in the floating
> > > point department (i.e. mathematical calculations), where it rates poorly
> > > on current apps that are unoptimised for it. It will be quite some time
> > > before programmes can use the Pentium 4 well, so until then we should use
> > > more conventional CPUs.
> > >
> > >There is nothing wrong with using a Mac for Linux. PowerPC chips, like
> > > Alphas and SunSparcs, are based on RISC technology (Intel and AMD use
> > > CISC), which is typically better for complex mathematical calculations.
> > > If this is not a consideration, then CISC will do.
> > >
> > >In the end, it depends on what you want to do with the CPU that matters.
> > > If you want to run Windows in a dual-boot configuration and/or run many
> > > games, the x86 (i.e. Intel and AMD) architecture would be a better
> > > choice. It also makes installing apps a lot easier (it's easier to find
> > > ready-made i386, i586 or i686 binaries, hence you won't have to compile
> > > code). In this case, I strongly recommend AMD, for the same reasons that
> > > www.tomshardware.com does. If you plan to do much scientific and
> > > mathematical work, then RISC (whether it be PowerPC, Alpha, SunSparc or
> > > something else) is probably better (as long as you can find the
> > > programmes you need).
> > >
> > >--
> > >Sridhar Dhanapalan.
> > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge
> > > this change.
>
>
>
>





Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-29 Thread Mark Weaver

Nope...you are correct and this fact leaves me wondering how in the world I 
can filter duplicate messages with Kmail filtering technology.

How about it MandrakeSoft? Any ideas? That, or a good solid method of using 
Procmail filtering with Kmail as one would use with Pine.
-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," 
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds

On Friday 29 December 2000 13:47, you wrote:
> I thought I am the only person to receive multiple copies! There were (13)
> copies of this posting 
>
> At 28-12-2000 +1100, you wrote:
> >On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:04, ZER0 FREQUENCY wrote:
> > > John Arkoulis wrote:
> > > >Can you please point me at a site (independent) that I can compare the
> > > > new fast CPUs (P4 1.4, Dual G4, Athlon)
> > > >Yes I know G4 is a MAC.
> > > >Which one do you think is best for Linux???
> > > >Thanks
> > >
> > > I personally like AMD. Although linux mostly supports intel. Not
> > > much change since AMD has intel-compatible microprocessors.
> >
> >http://www.tomshardware.com has great PC CPU (i.e. no Mac) reviews. It
> >recently has done extensive testing on the Pentium 4, comparing it to
> > other Intel and AMD processors. It generally concludes that AMD chips are
> > better, since they are significantly cheaper for about the same
> > performance. The Pentium 4, it says, is difficult to compare to other
> > CPUs since there are currrently no programmes that can take advantage of
> > its new instructions. This is particularly important in the floating
> > point department (i.e. mathematical calculations), where it rates poorly
> > on current apps that are unoptimised for it. It will be quite some time
> > before programmes can use the Pentium 4 well, so until then we should use
> > more conventional CPUs.
> >
> >There is nothing wrong with using a Mac for Linux. PowerPC chips, like
> > Alphas and SunSparcs, are based on RISC technology (Intel and AMD use
> > CISC), which is typically better for complex mathematical calculations.
> > If this is not a consideration, then CISC will do.
> >
> >In the end, it depends on what you want to do with the CPU that matters.
> > If you want to run Windows in a dual-boot configuration and/or run many
> > games, the x86 (i.e. Intel and AMD) architecture would be a better
> > choice. It also makes installing apps a lot easier (it's easier to find
> > ready-made i386, i586 or i686 binaries, hence you won't have to compile
> > code). In this case, I strongly recommend AMD, for the same reasons that
> > www.tomshardware.com does. If you plan to do much scientific and
> > mathematical work, then RISC (whether it be PowerPC, Alpha, SunSparc or
> > something else) is probably better (as long as you can find the
> > programmes you need).
> >
> >--
> >Sridhar Dhanapalan.
> > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge
> > this change.





Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-29 Thread L. H. LOO

I thought I am the only person to receive multiple copies! There were (13) 
copies of this posting 

At 28-12-2000 +1100, you wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:04, ZER0 FREQUENCY wrote:
> > John Arkoulis wrote:
> > >Can you please point me at a site (independent) that I can compare the new
> > >fast CPUs (P4 1.4, Dual G4, Athlon)
> > >Yes I know G4 is a MAC.
> > >Which one do you think is best for Linux???
> > >Thanks
> >
> > I personally like AMD. Although linux mostly supports intel. Not much
> > change since AMD has intel-compatible microprocessors.
>
>http://www.tomshardware.com has great PC CPU (i.e. no Mac) reviews. It
>recently has done extensive testing on the Pentium 4, comparing it to other
>Intel and AMD processors. It generally concludes that AMD chips are better,
>since they are significantly cheaper for about the same performance. The
>Pentium 4, it says, is difficult to compare to other CPUs since there are
>currrently no programmes that can take advantage of its new instructions.
>This is particularly important in the floating point department (i.e.
>mathematical calculations), where it rates poorly on current apps that are
>unoptimised for it. It will be quite some time before programmes can use the
>Pentium 4 well, so until then we should use more conventional CPUs.
>
>There is nothing wrong with using a Mac for Linux. PowerPC chips, like Alphas
>and SunSparcs, are based on RISC technology (Intel and AMD use CISC), which
>is typically better for complex mathematical calculations. If this is not a
>consideration, then CISC will do.
>
>In the end, it depends on what you want to do with the CPU that matters. If
>you want to run Windows in a dual-boot configuration and/or run many games,
>the x86 (i.e. Intel and AMD) architecture would be a better choice. It also
>makes installing apps a lot easier (it's easier to find ready-made i386, i586
>or i686 binaries, hence you won't have to compile code). In this case, I
>strongly recommend AMD, for the same reasons that www.tomshardware.com does.
>If you plan to do much scientific and mathematical work, then RISC (whether
>it be PowerPC, Alpha, SunSparc or something else) is probably better (as long
>as you can find the programmes you need).
>
>--
>Sridhar Dhanapalan.
> Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge 
> this change.





Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-28 Thread Adam Willcox



Dual G4's kick butt.  Butt you really don't 
even need Linux on a G4.  MacOS X can do all that linux will.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 3:37 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Fast CPU
  i think p4 is good, my 
  desktop is a p4 1.4ghz, but i read somewhere that 1.4 ghz arent too 
  compatible with linux unless you have the latest kernel...so get the 
  latest version of the distrobution you prefer so you'll be less likely to 
  not have an incompatible computer, so either go with the amd or p4, i'd go 
  with the p4 


Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-28 Thread abe

yes I am.  With the 2.2.17 kernel the option is PPro (pentium pro) but I
noticed with the 2.4 kernel that there is one more level of optimization
called K7.  I juist haven't been able to build a 2.4 kernel that works
yet ;-(

Abe

Mark Weaver wrote:
> 
> I think he's refering to recompiling the kernel for his family of processor.
> 
> On Thursday 28 December 2000 05:32, you wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view
> > > point on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900.
> > > Mandrake 7.2 is fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for
> > > my processors architecture.
> >
> > 
> >
> >   How do you recompile for an Athlon?
> >
> > 
> > Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design
> > For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real-
> > world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds.
> > ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --
> 
> --
> Mark
> 
> "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
> "Sharing is what makes them powerful."
> 
> Linus Torvalds




Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-28 Thread Roger Sherman

Just so you know, I'm not trying to say one is better than the other, or
trying to sell you, or anything...just stating my preference...which could
change in the next twenty minutes ;-)


peace,

Rog
http://www.slammingrooves.com
Registered Linux user #19071

On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Penndragon wrote:

> Hi Roger
>
>
> > I totally agree...I first started using Linux about 4 months ago, and
> > started out with KDE, as it provided a familiar environment. However,
> > after a while, I started to notice it did take up some resources that
> > could have been put to better use (and this was while I still only had 64
> > meg RAM). Blackbox is faster, and to me just _feels_ more "linux-y."
> >
> >
> > peace,
> >
>
> I must admit the others do seem somewhat faster than KDE. I find the sound
> on startup with KDE breaks up whilst it's fine in most others. Use mostly
> Gnome or Enlightenment for the moment, but still getting the feel for the
> others.
>
> James
> > Rog
> > http://www.slammingrooves.com
> > Registered Linux user #19071
> >
> > On 27 Dec 2000, Michael Scottaline wrote:
> >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view
> point
> > > on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900.  Mandrake 7.2
> is
> > > fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for my processors
> > > architecture.  windowmaker opens from startx (enter) to finished in
> about 2
> > > seconds ;-)
> > > ===
> > > Blackbox will probably do it in less than one!!  Give it a try if you're
> > > willing to forego eyecandy and like the understated elegance of
> simplicity.
> > > Runs just about any KDE or Gnome app with NO problem.
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > "Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol
> > > than alcohol has taken out of me."
> > > --Winston Churchill
> > >
> > > 
> > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at
> http://home.netscape.com/webmail
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>





Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-28 Thread abe

I did the same thing.  I started with KDE because I could understand it
with my leaving-windows-mentality.  Eventually I started playing around
with the different window managers looking for something that was
faster, used less resources, was more customizable and pleased my
aesthetic sense more directly.  Blackbox just didn't groove wiht me but
the nexty look and feel of windowmaker totally made me happy.


Abe


Roger Sherman wrote:
> 
> I totally agree...I first started using Linux about 4 months ago, and
> started out with KDE, as it provided a familiar environment. However,
> after a while, I started to notice it did take up some resources that
> could have been put to better use (and this was while I still only had 64
> meg RAM). Blackbox is faster, and to me just _feels_ more "linux-y."
> 
> peace,
> 
> Rog
> http://www.slammingrooves.com
> Registered Linux user #19071
> 
> On 27 Dec 2000, Michael Scottaline wrote:
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view point
> > on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900.  Mandrake 7.2 is
> > fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for my processors
> > architecture.  windowmaker opens from startx (enter) to finished in about 2
> > seconds ;-)
> > ===
> > Blackbox will probably do it in less than one!!  Give it a try if you're
> > willing to forego eyecandy and like the understated elegance of simplicity.
> > Runs just about any KDE or Gnome app with NO problem.
> > Mike
> >
> > "Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol
> > than alcohol has taken out of me."
> >   --Winston Churchill
> >
> > 
> > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
>http://home.netscape.com/webmail
> >
> >
> >




Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-28 Thread Penndragon

Hi Roger


> I totally agree...I first started using Linux about 4 months ago, and
> started out with KDE, as it provided a familiar environment. However,
> after a while, I started to notice it did take up some resources that
> could have been put to better use (and this was while I still only had 64
> meg RAM). Blackbox is faster, and to me just _feels_ more "linux-y."
>
>
> peace,
>

I must admit the others do seem somewhat faster than KDE. I find the sound
on startup with KDE breaks up whilst it's fine in most others. Use mostly
Gnome or Enlightenment for the moment, but still getting the feel for the
others.

James
> Rog
> http://www.slammingrooves.com
> Registered Linux user #19071
>
> On 27 Dec 2000, Michael Scottaline wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view
point
> > on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900.  Mandrake 7.2
is
> > fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for my processors
> > architecture.  windowmaker opens from startx (enter) to finished in
about 2
> > seconds ;-)
> > ===
> > Blackbox will probably do it in less than one!!  Give it a try if you're
> > willing to forego eyecandy and like the understated elegance of
simplicity.
> > Runs just about any KDE or Gnome app with NO problem.
> > Mike
> >
> > "Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol
> > than alcohol has taken out of me."
> > --Winston Churchill
> >
> > 
> > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at
http://home.netscape.com/webmail
> >
> >
> >
>
>





Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-28 Thread Mark Weaver

I think he's refering to recompiling the kernel for his family of processor.

On Thursday 28 December 2000 05:32, you wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view
> > point on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900.
> > Mandrake 7.2 is fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for
> > my processors architecture.
>
> 
>
>   How do you recompile for an Athlon?
>
> 
> Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design
> For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real-
> world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds.
> ---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --

-- 
Mark

"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," 
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."

Linus Torvalds




Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-28 Thread Po Kwok

Revenant wrote:
> 
> John Arkoulis wrote:
> >Can you please point me at a site (independent) that I can compare the new
> >fast CPUs (P4 1.4, Dual G4, Athlon)
> >Yes I know G4 is a MAC.
> >Which one do you think is best for Linux???
> >Thanks
> 
>   http://www.tomshardware.com is pretty good.  Doesn't cover the Mac,
> but of the other two, the short version is: Intel chips perform slightly
> faster at the same MHz, but can cost as much as 2.5x as much.  Intel
> have also been having a few stability probs lately.
> 
>   Re: The P4s, they seem to be roughly the equivalent of P3s of the same
> MHz (if there were such a thing).  They get a big performance boost if
> the software is P4-optimised but, as none of it is at the moment, that's
> a fairly nebulous advantage.  http://www.tomshardware.com has more on
> this.
> 

One problem with the Pentium 4 is that not all Linux distributions are
supporting it at the moment.  I think Redhat 'supports' it, but Caldera
and Mandrake haven't jumped on to the bandwagon.  What this 'support'
means is that the installation will recognize the CPU as a Pentium 4,
and install accordingly.

I have yet to install Linux on my G4 400MHz tower yet (I know, it's only
single CPU), but based on my reading, I am aware that you will need a
Linux distribution that will really take real advantage of SMP.  I am
under the impression that Yellow Dog Linux will be much better at this
than Linux PPC 2000.

Po Kwok
Sydney, Australia




Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-28 Thread Revenant

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view
> point on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900. 
> Mandrake 7.2 is fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for
> my processors architecture.


  How do you recompile for an Athlon?


Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design 
For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real-
world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds.
---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --




Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-28 Thread Revenant

John Arkoulis wrote:
>Can you please point me at a site (independent) that I can compare the new
>fast CPUs (P4 1.4, Dual G4, Athlon)
>Yes I know G4 is a MAC.
>Which one do you think is best for Linux???
>Thanks

  http://www.tomshardware.com is pretty good.  Doesn't cover the Mac,
but of the other two, the short version is: Intel chips perform slightly
faster at the same MHz, but can cost as much as 2.5x as much.  Intel
have also been having a few stability probs lately.

  Re: The P4s, they seem to be roughly the equivalent of P3s of the same
MHz (if there were such a thing).  They get a big performance boost if
the software is P4-optimised but, as none of it is at the moment, that's
a fairly nebulous advantage.  http://www.tomshardware.com has more on
this.


Society Design Mailing List http://www.egroups.com/group/Society_Design 
For any and all aspects of designing societies, from discussion of real-
world utopian ideas to fantastic fictional or roleplaying worlds.
---Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] --




Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-28 Thread Roger Sherman

I totally agree...I first started using Linux about 4 months ago, and
started out with KDE, as it provided a familiar environment. However,
after a while, I started to notice it did take up some resources that
could have been put to better use (and this was while I still only had 64
meg RAM). Blackbox is faster, and to me just _feels_ more "linux-y."


peace,

Rog
http://www.slammingrooves.com
Registered Linux user #19071

On 27 Dec 2000, Michael Scottaline wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view point
> on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900.  Mandrake 7.2 is
> fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for my processors
> architecture.  windowmaker opens from startx (enter) to finished in about 2
> seconds ;-)
> ===
> Blackbox will probably do it in less than one!!  Give it a try if you're
> willing to forego eyecandy and like the understated elegance of simplicity.
> Runs just about any KDE or Gnome app with NO problem.
> Mike
>
> "Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol
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Re: [Re: [newbie] Fast CPU]

2000-12-27 Thread Michael Scottaline

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> I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view point
on procs.  Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900.  Mandrake 7.2 is
fast as hell after I recompiled everything I use for my processors
architecture.  windowmaker opens from startx (enter) to finished in about 2
seconds ;-)
===
Blackbox will probably do it in less than one!!  Give it a try if you're
willing to forego eyecandy and like the understated elegance of simplicity. 
Runs just about any KDE or Gnome app with NO problem.
Mike

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Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-27 Thread abramo

I find that http://www.gamepc.com usually has a pretty unbiased view point on procs.  
Personally I'm really happy with my athlon 900.  Mandrake 7.2 is fast as hell after I 
recompiled everything I use for my processors architecture.  windowmaker opens from 
startx (enter) to finished in about 2 seconds ;-)

Abe


>  Original Message ---
> From: Mr S Ganesan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:52:32 +0530 (IST)
> 
> sorry we in india only prefer intel chipsOn Wed, 27 Dec 2000, John
> Arkoulis wrote:
> 
> > Can you please point me at a site (independent) that I can compare the
> new
> > fast CPUs (P4 1.4, Dual G4, Athlon)
> > Yes I know G4 is a MAC.
> > Which one do you think is best for Linux???
> > Thanks
> > 
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Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-27 Thread ZER0 FREQUENCY


John Arkoulis wrote:

>Can you please point me at a site (independent) that I can compare the new
>fast CPUs (P4 1.4, Dual G4, Athlon)
>Yes I know G4 is a MAC.
>Which one do you think is best for Linux???
>Thanks

I personally like AMD. Although linux mostly supports intel. Not much change since 
AMD has intel-compatible microprocessors.



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Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-27 Thread Mr S Ganesan

sorry we in india only prefer intel chipsOn Wed, 27 Dec 2000, John
Arkoulis wrote:

> Can you please point me at a site (independent) that I can compare the new
> fast CPUs (P4 1.4, Dual G4, Athlon)
> Yes I know G4 is a MAC.
> Which one do you think is best for Linux???
> Thanks
> 
> 

-- 
S.Ganesan
Senior Scientist
Central Institute of Agricultural Engineering
Berasia Road
Bhopal 462038, INDIA
Phone:  0755-730986 (O)
0755-732105 (R)
Fax:0755-734016
Email<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: [newbie] Fast CPU

2000-12-27 Thread Christ0pherr
i think p4 is good, my desktop is a p4 1.4ghz, but i read somewhere that 1.4 ghz arent too compatible with linux unless you have the latest kernel...so get the latest version of the distrobution you prefer so you'll be less likely to not have an incompatible computer, so either go with the amd or p4, i'd go with the p4