Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 12:31 am, M.Schild wrote: There are _some_ internal modems that work quite well with Linux -- without drivers. The tricky bit is finding them. Maybe but if you are new to Linux and proudly want to install it on a new machine you get stuck. What would your next move be? Windows? Maryse That has to be my answer. I am going to our local community centre tomorrow, some miles away from our place in the bush to download the kernel source which I need to get the winmodem on my Acer 1350 lappy working. The problem is that even there, it will take some time because we are too isolated to get broadband with anything faster than dialup speed, and satellite is fairly slow as well. But here at home where the telephone system is 2 tin cans connected by a thin string, it is even slower. We are moving onto solar power and I need that lappy because it uses less power. I moved from that to real live power, but have to move back. If I can't get this modem working in Linux, I am back to windows which I haven't used for a couple of years. Fact of life. Tough but unavoidable. Charlie. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- My facts shall be falsehoods to the common sense. I would so state facts that they shall be significant, shall be myths or mythologies. Facts which the mind perceived, thoughts which the body thought -- with these I deal. .Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Experience what others using Mandrake Linux have experienced at:- http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported
The moral is, if you must have a WinModem, get one with a Lucent chipset. I haven't found one yet that I couldn't get to work with the free driver, and the whole modem costs less than the Conexant driver. I find the Linux distros should put on warning on their boxes saying use a ext. modem. Imagine someone who decides to buy a computer without an OS and an internal modem .He decides to install Linux but the modem is not detected/supported. How do you get to download a driver without a functioning modem? When I bought this machine, they sellers told me I would have no problem with Mandrake and the int. modem ( I don´t have Windows). I am suspicious and still had my external oneso they could send me a driver. Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported
M.Schild wrote: The moral is, if you must have a WinModem, get one with a Lucent chipset. I haven't found one yet that I couldn't get to work with the free driver, and the whole modem costs less than the Conexant driver. I find the Linux distros should put on warning on their boxes saying use a ext. modem. Imagine someone who decides to buy a computer without an OS and an internal modem .He decides to install Linux but the modem is not detected/supported. How do you get to download a driver without a functioning modem? When I bought this machine, they sellers told me I would have no problem with Mandrake and the int. modem ( I don´t have Windows). I am suspicious and still had my external oneso they could send me a driver. Maryse You will run into the same problem with any OS. The main difference is that most winmodem manfactures do not ship a Linux driver with the modem. (Or have one at all.) If I remember right, it is a legal issue that keeps the driver from being shipped with Linux. I think the hardware should come with the warning. Let the buyer know that they are not buying a real modem. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported
On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 05:38, M.Schild wrote: The moral is, if you must have a WinModem, get one with a Lucent chipset. I haven't found one yet that I couldn't get to work with the free driver, and the whole modem costs less than the Conexant driver. I find the Linux distros should put on warning on their boxes saying use a ext. modem. Imagine someone who decides to buy a computer without an OS and an internal modem .He decides to install Linux but the modem is not detected/supported. How do you get to download a driver without a functioning modem? When I bought this machine, they sellers told me I would have no problem with Mandrake and the int. modem ( I don´t have Windows). I am suspicious and still had my external oneso they could send me a driver. Maryse __ Maryse: There are _some_ internal modems that work quite well with Linux -- without drivers. The tricky bit is finding them. We're still running an old Zoom ISA internal modem on my wife's computer (her motherboard has an ISA slot; mine doesn't.) And, FWIW, some external modems are Winmodems, especially USB types. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported
There are _some_ internal modems that work quite well with Linux -- without drivers. The tricky bit is finding them. Maybe but if you are new to Linux and proudly want to install it on a new machine you get stuck. What would your next move be? Windows? Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported
M.Schild wrote: There are _some_ internal modems that work quite well with Linux -- without drivers. The tricky bit is finding them. Maybe but if you are new to Linux and proudly want to install it on a new machine you get stuck. What would your next move be? Windows? Maryse Well, you would run into the same problem with Windows, unless you had the drivers for the modem. I have had to search the net with another machine and download modem drivers before being able to connect to the net and get the rest of the drivers I needed. For the most part, I have had less trouble getting hardware to work with Linux, then with Windows. The exceptions tend to be installing NEW printers or winmodems when I have the drivers provided by the manfacture. Unfortunitly, most winmodems and winprinters do not come with Linux drivers. By the way, exactly what does the box say about hardware requirments? I have not bothered to read it in a long time! I know the supported hardware lists on the net tend to be a bit conservitive. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported
On Monday 07 June 2004 01:31 pm, OOzy wrote: Sorry guys to interuppt. Forget about Winmodem. I just bought an external modem (USRobotics USB Model 5633). How can I install it? OOzy: On any Windows computer with a USB port. As for Linux, that puppy uses an HCF chipset -- and that is not good news. You've probably got a Winmodem. Check out these two sites: http://linmodems.org http://start.at/modem -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported
I downloaded a driver from Linuxant.com but it did not work. It requires a lic. Anyhow, it no good for me. - Original Message - From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported OOzy wrote: Gurus, I have just installed LM9.2. Everything was flawless except my modem. It was detected but not support. My modem is Conexant (HCF). Can Anyone show me where can I find the driver and how to install it. Best Regards. hello Check www.linuxant.com John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported
On Saturday 05 June 2004 09:18 pm, OOzy wrote: | Gurus, | | I have just installed LM9.2. Everything was flawless except my modem. It | was detected but not support. My modem is Conexant (HCF). Can Anyone show | me where can I find the driver and how to install it. | | Best Regards. Conexant has a driver, but it isn't open source--I think they charge about $20, US. The moral is, if you must have a WinModem, get one with a Lucent chipset. I haven't found one yet that I couldn't get to work with the free driver, and the whole modem costs less than the Conexant driver. Or better yet, get an external serial modem (I know, some computers don't even have serial ports anymore) and it will work right out of the box. Beware of USB modems--some have no Linux drivers, but some do. Do your research first if you decide to get one. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported
- Original Message - From: OOzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 22:26:35 +0300 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported I downloaded a driver from Linuxant.com but it did not work. It requires a lic. Anyhow, it no good for me. - Original Message - From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported OOzy wrote: Gurus, I have just installed LM9.2. Everything was flawless except my modem. It was detected but not support. My modem is Conexant (HCF). Can Anyone show me where can I find the driver and how to install it. Best Regards. hello Check www.linuxant.com John *** The linuxant drivers work very good here for me under Mdk 9.2. Linuxant does charge for their software, which is not to everyone's satisfaction I realize. The drivers are high quality software however, and can usually effectively transform a conexant hcf or hsf chipset winmodem into a high performance linmodem. I get better performance from my conexant hcf under Linux now than I can under ms windows. The driver is available in a free version that will function at a reduced performance of 14.4K, and you can test it with your hardware before paying for full 56K with a license #. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 9.2~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com