Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported

2004-06-08 Thread Ariestao1
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 12:31 am, M.Schild wrote:
  There are _some_ internal modems that work quite well with Linux --
  without drivers. The tricky bit is finding them.

 Maybe but if you are new to Linux and proudly want to install it on a new
 machine you get stuck.  What would your next move be? Windows?
 Maryse

That has to be my answer. I am going to our local community centre tomorrow, 
some miles away from our place in the bush to download the kernel source 
which I need to get the winmodem on my Acer 1350 lappy working. The problem 
is that even there, it will take some time because we are too isolated to get 
broadband with anything faster than dialup speed, and satellite is fairly 
slow as well.

But here at home where the telephone system is 2 tin cans connected by a thin 
string, it is even slower. We are moving onto solar power and I need that 
lappy because it uses less power. I moved from that to real live power, but 
have to move back.

If I can't get this modem working in Linux, I am back to windows which I 
haven't used for a couple of years. Fact of life. Tough but unavoidable.

Charlie.

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Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported

2004-06-07 Thread M.Schild

 The moral is, if you must have a WinModem, get one with a Lucent
 chipset.  I haven't found one yet that I couldn't get to work with the free
 driver, and the whole modem costs less than the Conexant driver.

 I find the Linux distros should put on warning on their boxes saying use a 
ext. modem. Imagine someone who decides to buy a computer without an OS and 
an internal modem .He  decides to install Linux but the modem is not 
detected/supported. How do you get to download a driver without a functioning 
modem?
When I bought this machine, they sellers told me I would have no problem with 
Mandrake and the int. modem ( I don´t have Windows). I am suspicious and  
still had my external oneso they could send me a driver.
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Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported

2004-06-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
M.Schild wrote:
The moral is, if you must have a WinModem, get one with a Lucent 
chipset.  I haven't found one yet that I couldn't get to work with
the free driver, and the whole modem costs less than the Conexant
driver.

I find the Linux distros should put on warning on their boxes saying
use a ext. modem. Imagine someone who decides to buy a computer
without an OS and an internal modem .He  decides to install Linux but
the modem is not detected/supported. How do you get to download a
driver without a functioning modem? When I bought this machine, they
sellers told me I would have no problem with Mandrake and the int.
modem ( I don´t have Windows). I am suspicious and still had my
external oneso they could send me a driver. Maryse

You will run into the same problem with any OS.  The main difference is 
that most winmodem manfactures do not ship a Linux driver with the 
modem.  (Or have one at all.)  If I remember right, it is a legal issue 
that keeps the driver from being shipped with Linux.

I think the hardware should come with the warning.  Let the buyer know 
that they are not buying a real modem.

Mikkel
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Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported

2004-06-07 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 05:38, M.Schild wrote:
  The moral is, if you must have a WinModem, get one with a Lucent
  chipset.  I haven't found one yet that I couldn't get to work with the free
  driver, and the whole modem costs less than the Conexant driver.
 
  I find the Linux distros should put on warning on their boxes saying use a 
 ext. modem. Imagine someone who decides to buy a computer without an OS and 
 an internal modem .He  decides to install Linux but the modem is not 
 detected/supported. How do you get to download a driver without a functioning 
 modem?
 When I bought this machine, they sellers told me I would have no problem with 
 Mandrake and the int. modem ( I don´t have Windows). I am suspicious and  
 still had my external oneso they could send me a driver.
 Maryse
 
 
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Maryse:
There are _some_ internal modems that work quite well with Linux --
without drivers. The tricky bit is finding them. We're still running an
old Zoom ISA internal modem on my wife's computer (her motherboard has
an ISA slot; mine doesn't.)

And, FWIW, some external modems are Winmodems, especially USB types.
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Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported

2004-06-07 Thread M.Schild

 There are _some_ internal modems that work quite well with Linux --
 without drivers. The tricky bit is finding them.


Maybe but if you are new to Linux and proudly want to install it on a new 
machine you get stuck.  What would your next move be? Windows?
Maryse


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Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported

2004-06-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
M.Schild wrote:
There are _some_ internal modems that work quite well with Linux --
 without drivers. The tricky bit is finding them.

Maybe but if you are new to Linux and proudly want to install it on a
new machine you get stuck.  What would your next move be? Windows? 
Maryse

Well, you would run into the same problem with Windows, unless you had 
the drivers for the modem.  I have had to search the net with another 
machine and download modem drivers before being able to connect to the 
net and get the rest of the drivers I needed.  For the most part, I have 
had less trouble getting hardware to work with Linux, then with Windows.
The exceptions tend to be installing NEW printers or winmodems when I 
have the drivers provided by the manfacture.  Unfortunitly, most 
winmodems and winprinters do not come with Linux drivers.

By the way, exactly what does the box say about hardware requirments?  I 
have not bothered to read it in a long time!  I know the supported 
hardware lists on the net tend to be a bit conservitive.

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Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported

2004-06-07 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Monday 07 June 2004 01:31 pm, OOzy wrote:
 Sorry guys to interuppt. Forget about Winmodem. I just bought an external
 modem (USRobotics USB Model 5633). How can I install it?

OOzy:
On any Windows computer with a USB port. As for Linux, that puppy uses an HCF 
chipset -- and that is not good news. You've probably got a Winmodem. Check 
out these two sites:
http://linmodems.org
http://start.at/modem
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Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported

2004-06-06 Thread OOzy
I downloaded a driver from Linuxant.com but it did not work. It requires a
lic. Anyhow, it no good for me.
- Original Message - 
From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported


 OOzy wrote:
  Gurus,
 
  I have just installed LM9.2. Everything was flawless except my modem. It
was detected but not support. My modem is Conexant (HCF). Can Anyone show me
where can I find the driver and how to install it.
 
  Best Regards.
 
 hello
 Check www.linuxant.com

 John








 
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Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported

2004-06-06 Thread Erylon Hines
On Saturday 05 June 2004 09:18 pm, OOzy wrote:
| Gurus,
|
| I have just installed LM9.2. Everything was flawless except my modem. It
| was detected but not support. My modem is Conexant (HCF). Can Anyone show
| me where can I find the driver and how to install it.
|
| Best Regards.

Conexant has a driver, but it isn't open source--I think they charge about 
$20, US.  The moral is, if you must have a WinModem, get one with a Lucent 
chipset.  I haven't found one yet that I couldn't get to work with the free 
driver, and the whole modem costs less than the Conexant driver.  Or better 
yet, get an external serial modem (I know, some computers don't even have 
serial ports anymore) and it will work right out of the box.  Beware of USB 
modems--some have no Linux drivers, but some do.  Do your research first if 
you decide to get one.

e




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Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported

2004-06-06 Thread Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: OOzy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 22:26:35 +0300
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported

 I downloaded a driver from Linuxant.com but it did not work. It requires a
 lic. Anyhow, it no good for me.
 - Original Message - 
 From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 12:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem detected but not supported
 
 
  OOzy wrote:
   Gurus,
  
   I have just installed LM9.2. Everything was flawless except my modem. It
 was detected but not support. My modem is Conexant (HCF). Can Anyone show me
 where can I find the driver and how to install it.
  
   Best Regards.
  
  hello
  Check www.linuxant.com
 
  John
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The linuxant drivers work very good here for me under 
Mdk 9.2. Linuxant does charge for their software, which is 
not to everyone's satisfaction I realize. The drivers are 
high quality software however, and can usually effectively 
transform a conexant hcf or hsf chipset winmodem 
into a high performance linmodem. I get better 
performance from my conexant hcf under Linux now 
than I can under ms windows.

The driver is available in a free version that will function 
at a reduced performance of 14.4K, and you can test it 
with your hardware before paying for full 56K with a license #.

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