Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Thursday 19 August 2004 10:30 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Thursday 19 August 2004 09:25, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday 19 August 2004 05:19 am, SnapafunFrank wrote: Thereidos wrote: Ok Tom I'm confused while using 2.6.3-7 I was using nvidia driver confirmed in /etc./X11/XF86Config-4. Glxgears reported 300 to 600fps in 5 sec when the gears were minimized it went over 1000fps in 5 sec. When I switched to 2.6.3.15 glx gears wont even run and the nvidia driver is nv in Config-4. I don't play any games that require accel, maybe pysol once in a while. Is there any reason for using 2.6.3.15? The real question is do you need the proprietary driver? Actually I'd suggest the newest kernel you can find for your system. Even if you have to compile a cooker rpm from kernel-source. Later 2.6.7 (higher version level) should be good. The 2.6.8's are a little new right now (low version levels). YMMV I suspect glxgears won't run either because the line Load glx # 3D layer is commented out (disabled) in XF86config or. since you had the proprietary drivers previously installed on the system (you have uninstalled them, right?), nVidia's installation removed Xfree's mesa files/dirs. If that's the case you'll need to urpme all xfree (or xorg) rpms and the reinstall them..or You could just use 'rpm -Uvh --force' to put them back in over the existing pkgs. That will also replace missing files/dirs that nVidia fsck'd with. Do either of the above at a level 3 prompt (no X running). If you've nVidia tainted that 2.6.3-15 kernel, you should either remove and reinstall it, or just use --force to replace kernel files and pkgs. Ok I don't need nvidia but there are flashes 3/4 bars running through my desktop now with nv and 2.6.3.15 that wernt there with nvidia and 2.6.3-7. Might be related to missing files/dirs, nVidia taints above? OTOH, it could be overstreched hardware. What you see on the monitor is the result of the video card, motherboard, and monitor working together. The result will be no better than the weakest link. Run 'ddcxinfos' to see your hardware specs, what it is capable of and the suggested modelines. A lot will depend on if your monitor has EISA info, so look for a line like mine tom # ddcxinfos | fgrep -i eisa 20.85 inches monitor (truly 19.31') EISA ID=SAM0080 If you see somethin similar, go ahead and run 'ddcxinfos |less' Another common mistake people tend to make is running at too high a resolution and/or color depth (bpp). Going back to EISA above, mine is a 19 TFT that both Samsung and 'ddcxinfos' says maxes out at 1280x1024(Samsung-) x24(nVidia- limitations). It will run at 1600x1200, and as a matter of fact that's what a Mandrake fresh install suggests..but that's overreaching. Particularly since many video and monitor vendors tend to overstate hardware specs. HTH, but I haven't touched nvidia proprietary drivers in years, and I've never had any issues with the 'nv' driver ..so I might not be the best one to help. I really just butted in here to correct the common misconception that xfree (xorg) doesn't support acceleration and OpenGL. It surely does ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Thursday 19 August 2004 05:19, SnapafunFrank wrote: Thereidos wrote: W lixcie z xro, 18-08-2004, godz. 15:18, Hoyt Bailey pisze: Er. No snip (OpenGL thing). Am I right? apparantly glxgears when running is pretty low. As for the NVidia installer I haven't got any problems with that. You just have to remember to turn your X server off and run it as a root (and try to read carefully :)). I ran the Nvidia installer but forgot to turn off X. Then realized that I am not sure how to do that. I understand alt F1-6 and I assumed that would do it but was informed that wouldnt do it. And if'n you get it right you'll see the nVidia splash screen when either rebooting or firing up your X . I get the nVidia splash screen now. And Cezary 'Thereidos' Morga is correct. The generic driver doesn't support OpenGL. OpenGL is required for glxgears and the like to actually run, though if you installed it correctly you ought to hear sounds and see the start 'page' , before you give up on it. [ I guess I need a new graphics card.. bugger!] While running 2.6.3-7mdk glxgrears ran fine just at 300-500 fps IIRC the max was around 1000. All I did was install 2.6.3.15 and glxgears will not run now. If you can give me detailed instructions for turning off X I'll do it again? Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Thursday 19 August 2004 05:19 am, SnapafunFrank wrote: Thereidos wrote: I'm not sure but those built into the kernel are something like generic video drivers. They doesn't handle so called 'acceleration' (OpenGL thing). Am I right? No, on both counts. The drivers are not 'built-in' to the kernel, they're in /lib/modules/* and /usr/lib/* As for the NVidia installer I haven't got any problems with that. You just have to remember to turn your X server off and run it as a root (and try to read carefully :)). And if'n you get it right you'll see the nVidia splash screen when either rebooting or firing up your X . And Cezary 'Thereidos' Morga is correct. The generic driver doesn't support OpenGL. OpenGL is required for glxgears and the like to actually run, though if you installed it correctly you ought to hear sounds and see the start 'page' , before you give up on it. [ I guess I need a new graphics card.. bugger!] The open source xorg (or previously XFree) driver for nvidia cards does support OpenGL (and has for well over a year). It's DRI (direct hardware rendering) that is not yet supported. And due to the legal entanglements of licensing agreements video vendors have (primarily with M$), xorg might never have DRI support. tom $ lspci |grep -i nvidia 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2) (using xorg's open source driver) tom $ glxinfo |grep -i open OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.4 Mesa 5.0.2) snip tom $ glxgears 806 frames in 5.0 seconds = 161.200 FPS (nothin to brag about but it does run ;) The _only_ thing you need DRI for is 3d/accel games. Video apps like xine, totem, mplayer, etc., do not need 3d/accel, and I even think they work better without it. IMO, if you can do without games that require DRI, you're better off _not_ using nvidia (or any video card's) proprietary drivers. Y'allsMMV, but it is inaccurate to say that the open source drivers don't support video acceleration. They do, and you don't have to fret with the bugs, security issues, and kernel taints and problems that closed source drivers introduce to your system. lkml won't even accept bug reports when closed source drivers are in use. IMO Mandrake shouldn't either as they are by nature of being closed and proprietary, unsupportable and at best, beta quality. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Thursday 19 August 2004 09:25, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday 19 August 2004 05:19 am, SnapafunFrank wrote: Thereidos wrote: I'm not sure but those built into the kernel are something like generic video drivers. They doesn't handle so called 'acceleration' (OpenGL thing). Am I right? No, on both counts. The drivers are not 'built-in' to the kernel, they're in /lib/modules/* and /usr/lib/* Ok Tom I'm confused while using 2.6.3-7 I was using nvidia driver confirmed in /etc./X11/XF86Config-4. Glxgears reported 300 to 600fps in 5 sec when the gears were minimized it went over 1000fps in 5 sec. When I switched to 2.6.3.15 glx gears wont even run and the nvidia driver is nv in Config-4. I don't play any games that require accel, maybe pysol once in a while. Is there any reason for using 2.6.3.15? As for the NVidia installer I haven't got any problems with that. You just have to remember to turn your X server off and run it as a root (and try to read carefully :)). And if'n you get it right you'll see the nVidia splash screen when either rebooting or firing up your X . And Cezary 'Thereidos' Morga is correct. The generic driver doesn't support OpenGL. OpenGL is required for glxgears and the like to actually run, though if you installed it correctly you ought to hear sounds and see the start 'page' , before you give up on it. [ I guess I need a new graphics card.. bugger!] The open source xorg (or previously XFree) driver for nvidia cards does support OpenGL (and has for well over a year). It's DRI (direct hardware rendering) that is not yet supported. And due to the legal entanglements of licensing agreements video vendors have (primarily with M$), xorg might never have DRI support. tom $ lspci |grep -i nvidia 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2) (using xorg's open source driver) tom $ glxinfo |grep -i open OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.4 Mesa 5.0.2) snip tom $ glxgears 806 frames in 5.0 seconds = 161.200 FPS (nothin to brag about but it does run ;) The _only_ thing you need DRI for is 3d/accel games. Video apps like xine, totem, mplayer, etc., do not need 3d/accel, and I even think they work better without it. IMO, if you can do without games that require DRI, you're better off _not_ using nvidia (or any video card's) proprietary drivers. Y'allsMMV, but it is inaccurate to say that the open source drivers don't support video acceleration. They do, and you don't have to fret with the bugs, security issues, and kernel taints and problems that closed source drivers introduce to your system. lkml won't even accept bug reports when closed source drivers are in use. IMO Mandrake shouldn't either as they are by nature of being closed and proprietary, unsupportable and at best, beta quality. Ok I don't need nvidia but there are flashes 3/4 bars running through my desktop now with nv and 2.6.3.15 that wernt there with nvidia and 2.6.3-7. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 20:12, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I dont have a clue what I did wrong? [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15mdk no package named kernel-2.6.3-15mdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel Everything already installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-source Everything already installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# man urpmi [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel.src no package named kernel.src [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15 no package named kernel-2.6.3-15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15mdk.src no package named kernel-2.6.3-15mdk.src It seems to me that one of the above attempts should have worked. urpmi --fuzzy kernel That will list all the available packages that either have kernel in the name or in the reference - THEN you can choose which one you so desire to install... Mind you, you do have to make sure you've defined an update source in order to be able to get that... urpmi.addmedia --help urpmi.update --help urpmi --help -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. Argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours. -- Messiah's Handbook : Reminders for the Advanced Soul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
Hoyt Bailey wrote: I dont have a clue what I did wrong? [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15mdk no package named kernel-2.6.3-15mdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel Everything already installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-source Everything already installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# man urpmi [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel.src no package named kernel.src [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15 no package named kernel-2.6.3-15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15mdk.src no package named kernel-2.6.3-15mdk.src It seems to me that one of the above attempts should have worked. Looks to me as though your headlist is not correct. To use urpmi your system headlist must be uptodate. In other words your system must have knowledge of the url and list of packages available on that url. Also, you cannot just install kernel-2.6.3-15mdk.src as this is source code and must be compiled first ( that is the last process packagers do to create an installable rpm) until you have a better understanding of this process best to come back to it another time. I don't use urpmi myself. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Wednesday 18 August 2004 05:32, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 20:12, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I dont have a clue what I did wrong? [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15mdk no package named kernel-2.6.3-15mdk kernel-2.6.3.15mdk urpmi --fuzzy kernel That will list all the available packages that either have kernel in the name or in the reference - THEN you can choose which one you so desire to install... Mind you, you do have to make sure you've defined an update source in order to be able to get that... urpmi.addmedia --help urpmi.update --help urpmi --help Thanks stephen apparantly they changed formats. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 20:12, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
I dont have a clue what I did wrong?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15mdk
no package named kernel-2.6.3-15mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel
Everything already installed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-source
Everything already installed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# man urpmi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel.src
no package named kernel.src
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15
no package named kernel-2.6.3-15
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15mdk.src
no package named kernel-2.6.3-15mdk.src
It seems to me that one of the above attempts should have worked.
urpmi --fuzzy kernel
That will list all the available packages that either have kernel in
the name or in the reference - THEN you can choose which one you so
desire to install...
Mind you, you do have to make sure you've defined an update source in
order to be able to get that...
urpmi.addmedia --help
urpmi.update --help
urpmi --help
--
stephen kuhn - proprietor
__
As Stephen says for sure.
Three things I discovered with urpmi:
1. You need to be sure that you have all the relevant media added to see
to your requirements.
I personally use vivisimo http://www.vivisimo.com but you may want
to use google, to make sure all the ftp sites you can
handle are 'onboard'.
2. Then I always start out with
# urpmi.update -a
3. Then I go make a cup of coffee and say Hi to Jan. ( By the time she
gets over the shock and I
catch up on the day's events, I'm ready to continue with 'urpmi'.)
It's good to update your media but be sure you have all the relevant
media to update in the first place.
From a fellow onliner using dialup. [ Record to date - { using
intel-536ep modem on Mandrake2.6.3-7 } = 229MB in 24hrs - yeah right!
Now you know why I don't trust 'konstruct'.] Thank the powers that be
for URPMI.
--
Regards
SnapafunFrank
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Registered Linux User # 324213
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Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Wednesday 18 August 2004 05:47, John Richard Smith wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: I dont have a clue what I did wrong? [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15mdk no package named kernel-2.6.3-15mdk kernel-2.6.3.15mdk is correct. Looks to me as though your headlist is not correct. To use urpmi your system headlist must be uptodate. In other words your system must have knowledge of the url and list of packages available on that url. Also, you cannot just install kernel-2.6.3-15mdk.src as this is I remember installing another package.src.rpm with urpmi and it worked fine it seems that it would be safer to do a kernel that way since its more likely to be successful than my fatfingering it(not to mention complete lack of understanding). source code and must be compiled first ( that is the last process packagers do to create an installable rpm) until you have a better understanding of this process best to come back to it another time. I don't use urpmi myself. Its a lot safer for me! John -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Wednesday 18 August 2004 06:08, SnapafunFrank wrote:
Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 20:12, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
I dont have a clue what I did wrong?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hoyt]# urpmi kernel-2.6.3-15mdk
no package named kernel-2.6.3-15mdk
urpmi --fuzzy kernel
That will list all the available packages that either have kernel
in the name or in the reference - THEN you can choose which one you
so desire to install...
Mind you, you do have to make sure you've defined an update source
in order to be able to get that...
urpmi.addmedia --help
urpmi.update --help
urpmi --help
--
stephen kuhn - proprietor
__
As Stephen says for sure.
Three things I discovered with urpmi:
1. You need to be sure that you have all the relevant media added to
see to your requirements.
I personally use vivisimo http://www.vivisimo.com but you may
want to use google, to make sure all the ftp sites you can
handle are 'onboard'.
2. Then I always start out with
# urpmi.update -a
3. Then I go make a cup of coffee and say Hi to Jan. ( By the time
she gets over the shock and I
catch up on the day's events, I'm ready to continue with
'urpmi'.)
It's good to update your media but be sure you have all the relevant
media to update in the first place.
From a fellow onliner using dialup. [ Record to date - { using
intel-536ep modem on Mandrake2.6.3-7 } = 229MB in 24hrs - yeah right!
Now you know why I don't trust 'konstruct'.] Thank the powers that be
for URPMI.
I like urpmi also without I'd be in dependency hell all of the time. I
have most of the sources I need set up including src.
--
Regards;
Hoyt
Registered Linux User #363264
http://counter.li.org
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Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
Well I am back with kernel-2.6.3.15mdk active and so far the only thing I noticed are some flash bars running through the desktop the flash bars are about 3/4 long and appear to be random. Just enough to be annoying especially on a black background. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 21:40, Hoyt Bailey wrote: Well I am back with kernel-2.6.3.15mdk active and so far the only thing I noticed are some flash bars running through the desktop the flash bars are about 3/4 long and appear to be random. Just enough to be annoying especially on a black background. Re-install your video drivers. -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. Life is like a 10 speed bicycle. Most of us have gears we never use. -- C. Schultz Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Wednesday 18 August 2004 06:56, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 21:40, Hoyt Bailey wrote: Well I am back with kernel-2.6.3.15mdk active and so far the only thing I noticed are some flash bars running through the desktop the flash bars are about 3/4 long and appear to be random. Just enough to be annoying especially on a black background. Re-install your video drivers. What are video drivers. If nvidia that is complied into the kernel. /usr/src/linux-2.6.3-15mdk/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.c /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o /lib/modules/2.6.3-7mdk/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko.gz /lib/modules/2.6.3-7mdk/kernel/drivers/char/nvidia.ko.gz If the above two modules should be switched to something else would update take care of it? -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 22:13, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Wednesday 18 August 2004 06:56, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 21:40, Hoyt Bailey wrote: Well I am back with kernel-2.6.3.15mdk active and so far the only thing I noticed are some flash bars running through the desktop the flash bars are about 3/4 long and appear to be random. Just enough to be annoying especially on a black background. Re-install your video drivers. What are video drivers. If nvidia that is complied into the kernel. /usr/src/linux-2.6.3-15mdk/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.c /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o /lib/modules/2.6.3-7mdk/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko.gz /lib/modules/2.6.3-7mdk/kernel/drivers/char/nvidia.ko.gz If the above two modules should be switched to something else would update take care of it? If you add, update or change the kernel, you need to reinstall the nvidia drivers. -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. My sister opened a computer store in Hawaii. She sells C shells down by the seashore. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Wednesday 18 August 2004 06:56, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 21:40, Hoyt Bailey wrote: Well I am back with kernel-2.6.3.15mdk active and so far the only thing I noticed are some flash bars running through the desktop the flash bars are about 3/4 long and appear to be random. Just enough to be annoying especially on a black background. Re-install your video drivers. What are video drivers. If nvidia that is complied into the kernel. /usr/src/linux-2.6.3-15mdk/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.c /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o /lib/modules/2.6.3-7mdk/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko.gz /lib/modules/2.6.3-7mdk/kernel/drivers/char/nvidia.ko.gz If the above two modules should be switched to something else would update take care of it? Er. No I have just gone through updating my nVidia driver because I wanted to look at 'FlightGear and that showed me that the only way to deal with nVidia drivers is by getting what you need from their site and go from there. Good luck, 'cause this newbie took two nights and three finger nails to get through it and though things appear to be working OK, I don't see any improvement on my system though yours might mean a general repair is the result. -- Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Wednesday 18 August 2004 07:20, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 22:13, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Wednesday 18 August 2004 06:56, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 21:40, Hoyt Bailey wrote: Well I am back with kernel-2.6.3.15mdk active and so far the only thing I noticed are some flash bars running through the desktop the flash bars are about 3/4 long and appear to be random. Just enough to be annoying especially on a black background. Re-install your video drivers. What are video drivers. If nvidia that is complied into the 1. kernel. /usr/src/linux-2.6.3-15mdk/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.c /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o 2. /lib/modules/2.6.3-7mdk/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko.gz /lib/modules/2.6.3-7mdk/kernel/drivers/char/nvidia.ko.gz If the above two modules should be switched to something else would update take care of it? If you add, update or change the kernel, you need to reinstall the nvidia drivers. Ok someone want to tell me what need to be done. Item 1 above was installed with 2.6.3.15 from apparantly item 2. a tar gz file or, more likely from a file contained in the rpm. Wouldnt that be a new install? -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Wednesday 18 August 2004 07:32, SnapafunFrank wrote: Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Wednesday 18 August 2004 06:56, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 21:40, Hoyt Bailey wrote: Well I am back with kernel-2.6.3.15mdk active and so far the only thing I noticed are some flash bars running through the desktop the flash bars are about 3/4 long and appear to be random. Just enough to be annoying especially on a black background. Re-install your video drivers. What are video drivers. If nvidia that is complied into the kernel. /usr/src/linux-2.6.3-15mdk/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.c /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o /lib/modules/2.6.3-7mdk/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko.gz /lib/modules/2.6.3-7mdk/kernel/drivers/char/nvidia.ko.gz If the above two modules should be switched to something else would update take care of it? Er. No I have just gone through updating my nVidia driver because I wanted to look at 'FlightGear and that showed me that the only way to deal with nVidia drivers is by getting what you need from their site and go from there. Good luck, 'cause this newbie took two nights and three finger nails to get through it and though things appear to be working OK, I don't see any improvement on my system though yours might mean a general repair is the result. I dont know if there is any improvement because I cant get glxgears to run with the new kernel. I also don't understand why, if nvidia is built into the kernel, why I should have to install the run file from nvidia, did the packager screw up or somethinng? -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
W licie z ro, 18-08-2004, godz. 15:18, Hoyt Bailey pisze: Er. No I have just gone through updating my nVidia driver because I wanted to look at 'FlightGear and that showed me that the only way to deal with nVidia drivers is by getting what you need from their site and go from there. Good luck, 'cause this newbie took two nights and three finger nails to get through it and though things appear to be working OK, I don't see any improvement on my system though yours might mean a general repair is the result. I dont know if there is any improvement because I cant get glxgears to run with the new kernel. I also don't understand why, if nvidia is built into the kernel, why I should have to install the run file from nvidia, did the packager screw up or somethinng? I'm not sure but those built into the kernel are something like generic video drivers. They doesn't handle so called 'acceleration' (OpenGL thing). Am I right? As for the NVidia installer I haven't got any problems with that. You just have to remember to turn your X server off and run it as a root (and try to read carefully :)). -- Cezary 'Thereidos' Morga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User No. 362185 GG# 169903 ICQ# 328-700-565 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] On Installing kernel.
On Wednesday 18 August 2004 08:43, Thereidos wrote: W li?cie z ?ro, 18-08-2004, godz. 15:18, Hoyt Bailey pisze: ^..^ I'm having trouble with these two characters 'No suitable encoding found' what encoding are they. (li'box'cie z 'box'ro) Er. No I have just gone through updating my nVidia driver because I wanted to look at 'FlightGear and that showed me that the only way to deal with nVidia drivers is by getting what you need from their site and go from there. Good luck, 'cause this newbie took two nights and three finger nails to get through it and though things appear to be working OK, I don't see any improvement on my system though yours might mean a general repair is the result. I dont know if there is any improvement because I cant get glxgears to run with the new kernel. I also don't understand why, if nvidia is built into the kernel, why I should have to install the run file from nvidia, did the packager screw up or somethinng? I'm not sure but those built into the kernel are something like generic video drivers. They doesn't handle so called 'acceleration' (OpenGL thing). Am I right? As for the NVidia installer I haven't got any problems with that. You just have to remember to turn your X server off and run it as a root (and try to read carefully :)). OK if that is the way things have to be. I have installed it once before so I guess it will be ok. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
