Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:16:57 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 04 June 2004 06:26, Lee Wiggers wrote: On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 03:52:12 +0300 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you should forward these mails to some psychic research organisation. The only explanation I can think of now is that your computer is possessed. Sir Robin That is, indeed, my conclusion also. Time for a new box? Hmmm Lee, mayby this is a shot in the air, but nevertheless : In my Open Office (1.1.1) I have this screen (see attachment) : Although in Danish, I think you get the idea. Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * http://www.haulrich.net * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Yes, exactly. And mine has Microsoft Word/2000/xp where yours has OpenOffice.org 1.0 When I change mine to OpenOffice.org 1.0, it stays that way for that session, but when I close oo, then open a new session, the default is again Microsoft Word. My solution is to keep the darn program on it's own desktop for my work, but I've had to work on behavior modification somewhat (no easy task for this hardhead) to either avoid opening oo with a click on a file or change the default after the new session is open. Like I said earlier, it's not a major issue. Just an annoyance, but the list was quiet and I thought maybe an answer would pop up. Thanks Robin and Kaj and others for your input. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On Friday 04 June 2004 09:08, Lee Wiggers wrote: snip When I change mine to OpenOffice.org 1.0, it stays that way for that session, but when I close oo, then open a new session, the default is again Microsoft Word. My solution is to keep the darn program on it's own desktop for my work, but I've had to work on behavior modification somewhat (no easy task for this hardhead) to either avoid opening oo with a click on a file or change the default after the new session is open. Like I said earlier, it's not a major issue. Just an annoyance, but the list was quiet and I thought maybe an answer would pop up. Thanks Robin and Kaj and others for your input. /snip Hmm not much help so far. Only thing I can think of is a permission issue : are you sure that the program can write to its configuration files ? - I remember having this problem in an earlier version of OO - or was it Star Office ?. Try checking the ownership and write-permissions in the OO directory. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * http://www.haulrich.net * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 13:28:11 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 04 June 2004 09:08, Lee Wiggers wrote: snip When I change mine to OpenOffice.org 1.0, it stays that way for that session, but when I close oo, then open a new session, the default is again Microsoft Word. My solution is to keep the darn program on it's own desktop for my work, but I've had to work on behavior modification somewhat (no easy task for this hardhead) to either avoid opening oo with a click on a file or change the default after the new session is open. Like I said earlier, it's not a major issue. Just an annoyance, but the list was quiet and I thought maybe an answer would pop up. Thanks Robin and Kaj and others for your input. /snip Hmm not much help so far. Only thing I can think of is a permission issue : are you sure that the program can write to its configuration files ? - I remember having this problem in an earlier version of OO - or was it Star Office ?. Try checking the ownership and write-permissions in the OO directory. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * http://www.haulrich.net * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * I'll go there next, but I thought I tested this by changing other defaults. First I guess I have to find the individual .config file for that parameter. Sounds like more of a pita than the problem. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:08:15 + Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 03:56:50 + Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else started on it. Hoisted on my own somethingorother. OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2 Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc. I can't change it in the options menu, although I can change to.sxw at the time of a save. I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of optionsjust to change something and the change worked. Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though. Any ideas? (Going to the oo list is not an option. It's up to you.) I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough. Am I to be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? sigh Lee Robin's Delete 'em all and let God sort it out approach struck me as appropriate. Try that in Windows, Bill. Thanks all for the response. Lee \ Continuing tale. Deleted /home/.openoffice Started oowriter Still can't change .doc save. I know this is a conspiracy. I went over to my brother's machine, changed the default to .doc, changed it back to .sxw and every time when I left and came back, the default was where I left it. On my machine, .doc rules. Period. Is this possible? Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
Lee Wiggers wrote: On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:08:15 + Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 03:56:50 + Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else started on it. Hoisted on my own somethingorother. OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2 Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc. I can't change it in the options menu, although I can change to.sxw at the time of a save. I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of optionsjust to change something and the change worked. Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though. Any ideas? (Going to the oo list is not an option. It's up to you.) I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough. Am I to be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? sigh Lee Robin's Delete 'em all and let God sort it out approach struck me as appropriate. Try that in Windows, Bill. Thanks all for the response. Lee \ Continuing tale. Deleted /home/.openoffice Started oowriter Still can't change .doc save. I know this is a conspiracy. I went over to my brother's machine, changed the default to .doc, changed it back to .sxw and every time when I left and came back, the default was where I left it. On my machine, .doc rules. Period. Is this possible? Try running setup as root first. I'm not sure where it will be on your system - if you used the Mandrake RPM, it's probably /usr/lib/openoffice/setup. Then wipe your ~/.openoffice directory again and run as user. Another idea - have you had a look at the file associations for whatever desktop environment(s) you are using? It's a very long shot, but it's remotely possible that if OO is associated with .doc files and nothing else, it's getting the message that you want .doc files. Sounds absurd, but it's the only other theory I can come up with. Sir Robin -- I'm very into Britney Spears' early work, before she sold out, so mostly her, um, finger painting and macaroni art. Dawn - BtVS Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 16:44:21 +0300 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee Wiggers wrote: On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:08:15 + Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 03:56:50 + Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else started on it. Hoisted on my own somethingorother. OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2 Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc. I can't change it in the options menu, although I can change to.sxw at the time of a save. I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of optionsjust to change something and the change worked. Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though. Any ideas? (Going to the oo list is not an option. It's up to you.) I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough. Am I to be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? sigh Lee Robin's Delete 'em all and let God sort it out approach struck me as appropriate. Try that in Windows, Bill. Thanks all for the response. Lee \ Continuing tale. Deleted /home/.openoffice Started oowriter Still can't change .doc save. I know this is a conspiracy. I went over to my brother's machine, changed the default to .doc, changed it back to .sxw and every time when I left and came back, the default was where I left it. On my machine, .doc rules. Period. Is this possible? Try running setup as root first. I'm not sure where it will be on your system - if you used the Mandrake RPM, it's probably /usr/lib/openoffice/setup. Then wipe your ~/.openoffice directory again and run as user. Another idea - have you had a look at the file associations for whatever desktop environment(s) you are using? It's a very long shot, but it's remotely possible that if OO is associated with .doc files and nothing else, it's getting the message that you want .doc files. Sounds absurd, but it's the only other theory I can come up with. Sir Robin -- This gets better. I tried everything suggested. Still the same default save to .doc Then I urpme'ed the whole oo, libs and all. Then I urpmi'ed them. File association is .sxw. New installation of oo Same problem. Still insists on starting with .doc save default. It's not a real problem. I can save .sxw. Just don't like the machine winning. It's sure not worth subscribing to the wincentric oo lists. They're more aggravating than their program (barely). Thanks for the suggestions. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On Thursday 03 June 2004 14:18, Lee Wiggers wrote: snip This gets better. I tried everything suggested. Still the same default save to .doc Then I urpme'ed the whole oo, libs and all. Then I urpmi'ed them. File association is .sxw. New installation of oo Same problem. Still insists on starting with .doc save default. It's not a real problem. I can save .sxw. Just don't like the machine winning. It's sure not worth subscribing to the wincentric oo lists. They're more aggravating than their program (barely). Thanks for the suggestions. /snip Recently, I had some problems (spellcheck in Danish) with the default installation of OpenOffice.org 1.1 that comes with Mandrake as a .rpm. I urpme'ed it and installed the newer version 1.1.1 from www.openoffice.org. Not only did it solve my problem, it starts and runs faster. Just my 0.02 ยค Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * http://www.haulrich.net * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 18:29:40 +0200 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 03 June 2004 14:18, Lee Wiggers wrote: snip This gets better. I tried everything suggested. Still the same default save to .doc Then I urpme'ed the whole oo, libs and all. Then I urpmi'ed them. File association is .sxw. New installation of oo Same problem. Still insists on starting with .doc save default. It's not a real problem. I can save .sxw. Just don't like the machine winning. It's sure not worth subscribing to the wincentric oo lists. They're more aggravating than their program (barely). Thanks for the suggestions. /snip Recently, I had some problems (spellcheck in Danish) with the default installation of OpenOffice.org 1.1 that comes with Mandrake as a .rpm. I urpme'ed it and installed the newer version 1.1.1 from www.openoffice.org. Not only did it solve my problem, it starts and runs faster. Just my 0.02 _ Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * http://www.haulrich.net * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * I would do that but this box is 100% rpm now. I swore on a stack of six packs to keep it that way. Maybe Mdk will catch up with OpenOffice again someday. I still think it's peculiar that one computer out of 5 does this. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
Lee Wiggers wrote: I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else started on it. Hoisted on my own somethingorother. OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2 Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc. I can't change it in the options menu, although I can change to .sxw at the time of a save. I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of optionsjust to change something and the change worked. Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though. Any ideas? (Going to the oo list is not an option. It's up to you.) I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough. Am I to be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? sigh The answer is probably hidden somewhere in ~/.openoffice. Rather than spending hours hunting through the config files, though, it's proabbly easier to back up anything in there you need (macros, templates, autotext etc.) and delete the whole lot, so you when you next run OO, it will give you a brand new configuration directory with the standard settings. Sir Robin -- I'm very into Britney Spears' early work, before she sold out, so mostly her, um, finger painting and macaroni art. Dawn - BtVS Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
snip On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 11:39:15 +0300 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The answer is probably hidden somewhere in ~/.openoffice. Rather than spending hours hunting through the config files, though, it's proabbly easier to back up anything in there you need (macros, templates, autotext etc.) and delete the whole lot, so you when you next run OO, it will give you a brand new configuration directory with the standard settings. Sir Robin I looked in .openoffice before I yelled for help. Many files with many extensions. I can just delete the lot without going to oo hell? Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On June 1, 2004 21:56, Lee Wiggers wrote: I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else started on it. Hoisted on my own somethingorother. OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2 Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc. I can't change it in the options menu, although I can change to .sxw at the time of a save. I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of optionsjust to change something and the change worked. Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though. Any ideas? (Going to the oo list is not an option. It's up to you.) I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough. Am I to be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? sigh Lee Just a thought... I've had problems with other gui apps (not oo) where the gui config seemed to get out of sync with/confused about the config files. The gui config said one thing, but the behaviour was something else. When this happened, often just changing the setting to something else, applying the change, then changing it back and applying again would fix the problem. Wouldn't hurt to try. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 07:45:25 -0700 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can just delete the lot without going to oo hell? Aren't you there already? :) Good thought. It's still better than a hot stick in the eye. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 03:56:50 + Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else started on it. Hoisted on my own somethingorother. OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2 Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc. I can't change it in the options menu, although I can change to .sxw at the time of a save. I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of optionsjust to change something and the change worked. Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though. Any ideas? (Going to the oo list is not an option. It's up to you.) I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough. Am I to be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? sigh Lee Robin's Delete 'em all and let God sort it out approach struck me as appropriate. Try that in Windows, Bill. Thanks all for the response. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite
On June 2, 2004 11:03, Lee Wiggers wrote: On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 07:45:25 -0700 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can just delete the lot without going to oo hell? Aren't you there already? :) Good thought. It's still better than a hot stick in the eye. Lee or a spoon? http://www.workorspoon.com/default.asp -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com