Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite

2004-06-04 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:16:57 +0200
Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 04 June 2004 06:26, Lee Wiggers wrote:
  On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 03:52:12 +0300
 
  robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I think you should forward these mails to some psychic
   research organisation. The only explanation I can think of now
   is that your
  
   computer is possessed.
  
   Sir Robin
 
  That is, indeed, my conclusion also.  Time for a new box?  Hmmm
 
 Lee, mayby this is a shot in the air, but nevertheless :
 
 In my Open Office (1.1.1) I have this screen (see attachment) :
 Although in Danish, I think you get the idea.
 
 Kaj Haulrich.
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Yes, exactly.  And mine has Microsoft Word/2000/xp where yours has
OpenOffice.org 1.0

When I change mine to OpenOffice.org 1.0, it stays that way for that
session, but when I close oo, then open a new session, the default
is again Microsoft Word.

My solution is to keep the darn program on it's own desktop for my
work, but I've had to work on behavior modification somewhat (no
easy task for this hardhead) to either avoid opening oo with a click
on a file  or change the default after the new session is open.

Like I said earlier, it's not a major issue.  Just an annoyance, but
the list was quiet and I thought maybe an answer would pop up.

Thanks Robin and Kaj and others for your input.

Lee

 


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Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite

2004-06-04 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 04 June 2004 09:08, Lee Wiggers wrote:

snip
 When I change mine to OpenOffice.org 1.0, it stays that way for
 that session, but when I close oo, then open a new session, the
 default is again Microsoft Word.

 My solution is to keep the darn program on it's own desktop for
 my work, but I've had to work on behavior modification somewhat
 (no easy task for this hardhead) to either avoid opening oo with
 a click on a file  or change the default after the new session is
 open.

 Like I said earlier, it's not a major issue.  Just an annoyance,
 but the list was quiet and I thought maybe an answer would pop
 up.

 Thanks Robin and Kaj and others for your input.
/snip

Hmm not much help so far. Only thing I can think of is a 
permission issue : are you sure that the program can write to its 
configuration files ? - I remember having this problem in an 
earlier version of OO - or was it Star Office ?. Try checking the 
ownership and write-permissions in the OO directory.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite

2004-06-04 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 13:28:11 +0200
Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 04 June 2004 09:08, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 
 snip
  When I change mine to OpenOffice.org 1.0, it stays that way for
  that session, but when I close oo, then open a new session, the
  default is again Microsoft Word.
 
  My solution is to keep the darn program on it's own desktop for
  my work, but I've had to work on behavior modification somewhat
  (no easy task for this hardhead) to either avoid opening oo with
  a click on a file  or change the default after the new session
  is open.
 
  Like I said earlier, it's not a major issue.  Just an annoyance,
  but the list was quiet and I thought maybe an answer would pop
  up.
 
  Thanks Robin and Kaj and others for your input.
 /snip
 
 Hmm not much help so far. Only thing I can think of is a 
 permission issue : are you sure that the program can write to its 
 configuration files ? - I remember having this problem in an 
 earlier version of OO - or was it Star Office ?. Try checking the 
 ownership and write-permissions in the OO directory.
 
 HTH
 
 Kaj Haulrich.
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* http://www.haulrich.net *
 * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 *
 
 
I'll go there next, but I thought I tested this by changing other
defaults.  First I guess I have to find the individual .config file
for that parameter.  Sounds like more of a pita than the problem.

Lee


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Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite

2004-06-03 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:08:15 +
Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 03:56:50 +
 Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else
  started on it.  Hoisted on my own somethingorother.
  
  OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2
  
  Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc. 
  I can't change it in the options menu, although I can change
  to.sxw at the time of a save.
  
  I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of
  optionsjust to change something and the change worked.
  
  Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though.
  
  Any ideas?  (Going to the oo list is not an option.  It's up to
  you.)
  
  I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough.  Am
  I to be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? sigh
  
  Lee
  
  
 Robin's Delete 'em all and let God sort it out approach struck
 me as appropriate.
 
 Try that in Windows, Bill.
 
 Thanks all for the response.
 
 Lee
 
 
\


Continuing tale.

Deleted /home/.openoffice

Started oowriter

Still can't change .doc save.

I know this is a conspiracy.

I went over to my brother's machine, changed the default to .doc,
changed it back to .sxw and every time when I left and came back,
the default was where I left it.

On my machine, .doc rules.  Period.

Is this possible?

Lee



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Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite

2004-06-03 Thread robin
Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:08:15 +
Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 03:56:50 +
Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else
started on it.  Hoisted on my own somethingorother.
OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2
Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc. 
I can't change it in the options menu, although I can change
to.sxw at the time of a save.

I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of
optionsjust to change something and the change worked.
Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though.
Any ideas?  (Going to the oo list is not an option.  It's up to
you.)
I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough.  Am
I to be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? sigh
Lee

Robin's Delete 'em all and let God sort it out approach struck
me as appropriate.
Try that in Windows, Bill.
Thanks all for the response.
Lee

\
Continuing tale.
Deleted /home/.openoffice
Started oowriter
Still can't change .doc save.
I know this is a conspiracy.
I went over to my brother's machine, changed the default to .doc,
changed it back to .sxw and every time when I left and came back,
the default was where I left it.
On my machine, .doc rules.  Period.
Is this possible?
Try running setup as root first. I'm not sure where it will be on your 
system - if you used the Mandrake RPM, it's probably 
/usr/lib/openoffice/setup.  Then wipe your ~/.openoffice directory again 
and run as user.

Another idea - have you had a look at the file associations for whatever 
desktop environment(s) you are using? It's a very long shot, but it's 
remotely possible that if OO is associated with .doc files and nothing 
else, it's getting the message that you want .doc files. Sounds absurd, 
but it's the only other theory I can come up with.

Sir Robin
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Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite

2004-06-03 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 16:44:21 +0300
robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lee Wiggers wrote:
  On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:08:15 +
  Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 03:56:50 +
 Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else
 started on it.  Hoisted on my own somethingorother.
 
 OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2
 
 Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc. 
 I can't change it in the options menu, although I can change
 to.sxw at the time of a save.
 
 I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of
 optionsjust to change something and the change worked.
 
 Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though.
 
 Any ideas?  (Going to the oo list is not an option.  It's up to
 you.)
 
 I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough.  Am
 I to be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd?
 sigh
 Lee
 
 
 
 Robin's Delete 'em all and let God sort it out approach struck
 me as appropriate.
 
 Try that in Windows, Bill.
 
 Thanks all for the response.
 
 Lee
 
 
  
  \
  
  
  Continuing tale.
  
  Deleted /home/.openoffice
  
  Started oowriter
  
  Still can't change .doc save.
  
  I know this is a conspiracy.
  
  I went over to my brother's machine, changed the default to
  .doc, changed it back to .sxw and every time when I left and
  came back, the default was where I left it.
  
  On my machine, .doc rules.  Period.
  
  Is this possible?
  
 
 Try running setup as root first. I'm not sure where it will be on
 your system - if you used the Mandrake RPM, it's probably 
 /usr/lib/openoffice/setup.  Then wipe your ~/.openoffice directory
 again and run as user.
 
 Another idea - have you had a look at the file associations for
 whatever desktop environment(s) you are using? It's a very long
 shot, but it's remotely possible that if OO is associated with
 .doc files and nothing else, it's getting the message that you
 want .doc files. Sounds absurd, but it's the only other theory I
 can come up with.
 
 Sir Robin
 
 -- 
This gets better.

I tried everything suggested.  Still the same default save to .doc

Then I urpme'ed the whole oo, libs and all.

Then I urpmi'ed them.

File association is .sxw.
New installation of oo
Same problem.

Still insists on starting with .doc save default.

It's not a real problem.  I can save .sxw.  Just don't like the
machine winning.

It's sure not worth subscribing to the wincentric oo lists.  They're
more aggravating than their program (barely).

Thanks for the suggestions.

Lee


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Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite

2004-06-03 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 03 June 2004 14:18, Lee Wiggers wrote:

snip
 This gets better.

 I tried everything suggested.  Still the same default save to
 .doc

 Then I urpme'ed the whole oo, libs and all.

 Then I urpmi'ed them.

 File association is .sxw.
 New installation of oo
 Same problem.

 Still insists on starting with .doc save default.

 It's not a real problem.  I can save .sxw.  Just don't like the
 machine winning.

 It's sure not worth subscribing to the wincentric oo lists. 
 They're more aggravating than their program (barely).

 Thanks for the suggestions.
/snip

Recently, I had some problems (spellcheck in Danish) with the 
default installation of OpenOffice.org 1.1 that comes with Mandrake 
as a .rpm.

I urpme'ed it and installed the newer version 1.1.1 from 
www.openoffice.org. Not only did it solve my problem, it starts and 
runs faster.

Just my 0.02 ยค

Kaj Haulrich.

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Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite

2004-06-03 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 18:29:40 +0200
Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 03 June 2004 14:18, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 
 snip
  This gets better.
 
  I tried everything suggested.  Still the same default save to
  .doc
 
  Then I urpme'ed the whole oo, libs and all.
 
  Then I urpmi'ed them.
 
  File association is .sxw.
  New installation of oo
  Same problem.
 
  Still insists on starting with .doc save default.
 
  It's not a real problem.  I can save .sxw.  Just don't like the
  machine winning.
 
  It's sure not worth subscribing to the wincentric oo lists. 
  They're more aggravating than their program (barely).
 
  Thanks for the suggestions.
 /snip
 
 Recently, I had some problems (spellcheck in Danish) with the 
 default installation of OpenOffice.org 1.1 that comes with
 Mandrake as a .rpm.
 
 I urpme'ed it and installed the newer version 1.1.1 from 
 www.openoffice.org. Not only did it solve my problem, it starts
 and runs faster.
 
 Just my 0.02 _
 
 Kaj Haulrich.
 
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* http://www.haulrich.net *
 * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 *
 
 
I would do that but this box is 100% rpm now.  I swore on a stack of
six packs to keep it that way.

Maybe Mdk will catch up with OpenOffice again someday.

I still think it's peculiar that one computer out of 5 does this.

Lee


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Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite

2004-06-02 Thread robin
Lee Wiggers wrote:
I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else started
on it.  Hoisted on my own somethingorother.
OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2
Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc.  I
can't change it in the options menu, although I can change to .sxw
at the time of a save.
I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of
optionsjust to change something and the change worked.
Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though.
Any ideas?  (Going to the oo list is not an option.  It's up to
you.)
I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough.  Am I to
be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? sigh
The answer is probably hidden somewhere in ~/.openoffice. Rather than 
spending hours hunting through the config files, though, it's proabbly 
easier to back up anything in there you need (macros, templates, 
autotext etc.) and delete the whole lot, so you when you next run OO, it 
will give you a brand new configuration directory with the standard 
settings.

Sir Robin
--
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mostly her, um, finger painting and macaroni art.
Dawn - BtVS

Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Universitesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey
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Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite

2004-06-02 Thread Lee Wiggers
snip

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 11:39:15 +0300
robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The answer is probably hidden somewhere in ~/.openoffice. Rather
 than spending hours hunting through the config files, though, it's
 proabbly easier to back up anything in there you need (macros,
 templates, autotext etc.) and delete the whole lot, so you when
 you next run OO, it will give you a brand new configuration
 directory with the standard settings.
 
 Sir Robin

I looked in .openoffice before I yelled for help.  Many files with
many extensions.

I can just delete the lot without going to oo hell?

Lee


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Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite

2004-06-02 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
On June 1, 2004 21:56, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else started
 on it.  Hoisted on my own somethingorother.

 OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2

 Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc.  I
 can't change it in the options menu, although I can change to .sxw
 at the time of a save.

 I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of
 optionsjust to change something and the change worked.

 Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though.

 Any ideas?  (Going to the oo list is not an option.  It's up to
 you.)

 I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough.  Am I to
 be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? sigh

 Lee

Just a thought...

I've had problems with other gui apps (not oo) where the gui config seemed to 
get out of sync with/confused about the config files. The gui config said one 
thing, but the behaviour was something else. 

When this happened, often just changing the setting to something else, 
applying the change, then changing it back and applying again would fix the 
problem. Wouldn't hurt to try.

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Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite

2004-06-02 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 07:45:25 -0700
Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I can just delete the lot without going to oo hell?
 
 Aren't you there already?   :)
 
 
Good thought.  It's still better than a hot stick in the eye.

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Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite

2004-06-02 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 03:56:50 +
Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I'm stuck using oo in the office because I got everyone else
 started on it.  Hoisted on my own somethingorother.
 
 OO 1.1.0 on mdk 9.2
 
 Only on 'my' oo installation, the default save format is .doc.  I
 can't change it in the options menu, although I can change to
 .sxw at the time of a save.
 
 I changed Netscape Navigator to HTML 3.2 in another section of
 optionsjust to change something and the change worked.
 
 Still couldn't get rid of the .doc save, though.
 
 Any ideas?  (Going to the oo list is not an option.  It's up to
 you.)
 
 I would suspect foul play if anyone here were savvy enough.  Am I
 to be subjected to a lifetime of .doc clutter in my hd? sigh
 
 Lee
 
 
Robin's Delete 'em all and let God sort it out approach struck me
as appropriate.

Try that in Windows, Bill.

Thanks all for the response.

Lee


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Re: [newbie] OpenOfficeWrite

2004-06-02 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
On June 2, 2004 11:03, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 07:45:25 -0700

 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I can just delete the lot without going to oo hell?
 
  Aren't you there already?   :)

 Good thought.  It's still better than a hot stick in the eye.

 Lee

or a spoon? 

http://www.workorspoon.com/default.asp

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