Re: [newbie] Router Question
On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 12:09:51 -0500, JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:40:27 -0600 Dennis Myers disseminated the following: Oh and BTW, what the hell is 'Icop'? He means IPCop I think. : ) Looks pretty cool. I might choose that instead of Smoothie when I finally get around to 'upgrading' my router. I used IPCop a couple of years ago, because the community was more helpful (google for Richard Morell sometime, and be glad you never met him in a dark alley), but I read recently that IPCop isn't being actively developed, and that RM is no longer involved with Smoothwall. It might be worth you, and the OP, checking this out before deciding which one to use. Richard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Router Question
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 18:10:45 + RichardA disseminated the following: (google for Richard Morell sometime, and be glad you never met him in a dark alley), Ya, I've heard he's pretty famous for kick-banning people from IRC, and I remember reading an IRC log extract a while back where he endlessly slagged a newb for asking a simple question, going on at great length about how many big clients he has/had. ...but then, developers are not rewarded for being nice, they're rewarded for producing great software. ***Exception: Thomas Leonard, developer of ROX Desktop. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 15:35:29 up 13 days, 3:22, 4 users, load average: 0.12, 0.13, 0.09 +++ Linux 2.4.22-21mdk i686 +++ I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. Or ... He has weapons of mass destruction -- the world's deadliest weapons -- which pose a direct threat to the United States, our citizens and our friends and allies. One of those lies got a president impeached. -- Michael Moore Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Router Question
At 08:22 PM 1/31/04, aronsmith wrote: On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 16:56, JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:52:28 -0800 aronsmith disseminated the following: OK.. I got off my dead arse and bought a small hard drive some ram and 3 NICs for the spare box I want to make a firewall/router out of it I also bought 3 non crossover cables (did I get the right ones?) Yep, you want straight through. This is an old compaqbox 500 Mhz and will have 128Mb Ram (I know its a lot for a firwall but thats all they had) any suggestions If it has a CDROM drive, you can't beat: http://www.smoothwall.org/ Burn the ISO, boot your router box from the CD, and you got yerself a kickass firewall, easily admin'ed with a browser interface, though I think it also comes with SSH is yer into that. ...and since you have 3 NICs, you get to have 3 interfaces: 1 internal, 1 firewall, and one DMZ, where you can put stuff like gaming rigs or other non-security sensitive stuff. Run one cable from your modem to the router, then one cable from the router to the hub (I assume you have one), then one from the hub to each machine on the LAN. Nope don't have a hub any suggestions? ( I'm cheap) Too cheap for a hub? That is cheap. You can do pc-to-pc with a cross-over cable. But this means you can only have three machines in your lan. You use straight-thru cable from router to modem and cross-over from router to pc on each of the other two nic's in your router. To add more pc's to lan you must have hub or switch. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Router Question
On Monday 02 February 2004 08:50 am, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:24:03 -0800 aronsmith disseminated the following: And the hub or switch probably cost less than the crossover cable. Lee Thanks all, will be using Icop (liked the Documentation) with a hub to the linbox and to the Win$ux box thru a hub that will leave me a DMZ port for my music server Ain't it the freakin' coolest? You be havin' a LAN, there, d00d :-) As an aside, this is the 'issue' that originally turned me on to Linux, was building my floppy-based router/NAT/firewall. Took me an hour, I never had to worry about PPoE connections again, and it kept my crashy, buggy, bloated and useless WinXP box from becoming a zombie for a year, til I ditched Windows forever. Not that Windows boxes aren't zombies by default... Oh and BTW, what the hell is 'Icop'? He means IPCop I think. : ) -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Router Question
On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 06:50, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:24:03 -0800 aronsmith disseminated the following: And the hub or switch probably cost less than the crossover cable. Lee Thanks all, will be using Icop (liked the Documentation) with a hub to the linbox and to the Win$ux box thru a hub that will leave me a DMZ port for my music server Ain't it the freakin' coolest? You be havin' a LAN, there, d00d :-) As an aside, this is the 'issue' that originally turned me on to Linux, was building my floppy-based router/NAT/firewall. Took me an hour, I never had to worry about PPoE connections again, and it kept my crashy, buggy, bloated and useless WinXP box from becoming a zombie for a year, til I ditched Windows forever. Not that Windows boxes aren't zombies by default... Oh and BTW, what the hell is 'Icop'? I ment IPcop http://www.ipcop.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/IPCop/WebHome (note to myself when drinking ozzie beer stop at 2 six packs) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Router Question
On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:40:27 -0600 Dennis Myers disseminated the following: Oh and BTW, what the hell is 'Icop'? He means IPCop I think. : ) Looks pretty cool. I might choose that instead of Smoothie when I finally get around to 'upgrading' my router. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 12:08:19 up 17 days, 13:10, 5 users, load average: 0.21, 0.27, 0.21 +++ Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding. -- John Kenneth Galbraith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Router Question
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 09:05, Lanman wrote: Hey Lyvim; How ya doing, guy? Long-time, no post! Nice ta see you're still around. Lanman I'm here and kicking, Lanman; but what little time I have seems to be monopolized largely by the OT list. :( Glad to see you here also, hope your holidays were nice! :) LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Router Question
On Monday 02 February 2004 11:09 am, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:40:27 -0600 Dennis Myers disseminated the following: Oh and BTW, what the hell is 'Icop'? He means IPCop I think. : ) Looks pretty cool. I might choose that instead of Smoothie when I finally get around to 'upgrading' my router. I used ipcop on a old K6 II 266 machine and it is very nice. IIRC it has snortsnarf built in and you can look at the intrusion attempt logs with IP and locations using the web interface. I use a linksys cable/dsl router now and have not used ipcop since the comp went down. Have fun. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Router Question
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 20:37, aronsmith wrote: On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 16:16, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 18:52, aronsmith wrote: OK.. I got off my dead arse and bought a small hard drive some ram and 3 NICs for the spare box I want to make a firewall/router out of it I also bought 3 non crossover cables (did I get the right ones?) This is an old compaqbox 500 Mhz and will have 128Mb Ram (I know its a lot for a firwall but thats all they had) any suggestions TIA smitty Yes, get everything installed *before* you run the Mandrake installation. Also read up on Shorewall, cause that's going to be important. Shorewall is a fantastic firewall tool; indispensible, even. LX Thanks looks like i'm gonna need it to hide my aunts windoze box behind If you get DSL, do not buy a router, turn the DSL modem into a bridge. Then the only thing you need to do is to get a hub. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Router Question
Hey Lyvim; How ya doing, guy? Long-time, no post! Nice ta see you're still around. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/1/2004 at 8:56 AM Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 20:37, aronsmith wrote: On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 16:16, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 18:52, aronsmith wrote: OK.. I got off my dead arse and bought a small hard drive some ram and 3 NICs for the spare box I want to make a firewall/router out of it I also bought 3 non crossover cables (did I get the right ones?) This is an old compaqbox 500 Mhz and will have 128Mb Ram (I know its a lot for a firwall but thats all they had) any suggestions TIA smitty Yes, get everything installed *before* you run the Mandrake installation. Also read up on Shorewall, cause that's going to be important. Shorewall is a fantastic firewall tool; indispensible, even. LX Thanks looks like i'm gonna need it to hide my aunts windoze box behind If you get DSL, do not buy a router, turn the DSL modem into a bridge. Then the only thing you need to do is to get a hub. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Router Question
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:52:28 -0800 aronsmith disseminated the following: OK.. I got off my dead arse and bought a small hard drive some ram and 3 NICs for the spare box I want to make a firewall/router out of it I also bought 3 non crossover cables (did I get the right ones?) Yep, you want straight through. This is an old compaqbox 500 Mhz and will have 128Mb Ram (I know its a lot for a firwall but thats all they had) any suggestions If it has a CDROM drive, you can't beat: http://www.smoothwall.org/ Burn the ISO, boot your router box from the CD, and you got yerself a kickass firewall, easily admin'ed with a browser interface, though I think it also comes with SSH is yer into that. ...and since you have 3 NICs, you get to have 3 interfaces: 1 internal, 1 firewall, and one DMZ, where you can put stuff like gaming rigs or other non-security sensitive stuff. Run one cable from your modem to the router, then one cable from the router to the hub (I assume you have one), then one from the hub to each machine on the LAN. -- JoeHill ++ ICQ # 280779813 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding. -- John Kenneth Galbraith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Router Question
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 16:56, JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:52:28 -0800 aronsmith disseminated the following: OK.. I got off my dead arse and bought a small hard drive some ram and 3 NICs for the spare box I want to make a firewall/router out of it I also bought 3 non crossover cables (did I get the right ones?) Yep, you want straight through. This is an old compaqbox 500 Mhz and will have 128Mb Ram (I know its a lot for a firwall but thats all they had) any suggestions If it has a CDROM drive, you can't beat: http://www.smoothwall.org/ Burn the ISO, boot your router box from the CD, and you got yerself a kickass firewall, easily admin'ed with a browser interface, though I think it also comes with SSH is yer into that. ...and since you have 3 NICs, you get to have 3 interfaces: 1 internal, 1 firewall, and one DMZ, where you can put stuff like gaming rigs or other non-security sensitive stuff. Run one cable from your modem to the router, then one cable from the router to the hub (I assume you have one), then one from the hub to each machine on the LAN. Nope don't have a hub any suggestions? ( I'm cheap) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Router Question
JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:52:28 -0800 aronsmith disseminated the following: OK.. I got off my dead arse and bought a small hard drive some ram and 3 NICs for the spare box I want to make a firewall/router out of it I also bought 3 non crossover cables (did I get the right ones?) Yep, you want straight through. This is an old compaqbox 500 Mhz and will have 128Mb Ram (I know its a lot for a firwall but thats all they had) any suggestions If it has a CDROM drive, you can't beat: http://www.smoothwall.org/ Actually, IPCop may be a better choice. Its roots are smoothwall, but it's had a lot of improvements since it branched off. Its really worth a look. http://www.ipcop.org. Its free, with an active support community and email list. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
