Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin startup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 27 February 2005 07:46, Derek Jennings wrote: On Sunday 27 February 2005 06:51, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote: On Saturday 26 February 2005 22:29, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 27 February 2005 01:24 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 26 February 2005 16:06, David Anderson wrote: Hi, I am following Derek Jennings' excellent Postfix mail server configuration document, and have got stuck in the SpamAssassin part. The doc says that you need to install the RPM, and then start the spamassassin service in Mandrake Control CentreSystemServices. Unfortunately there is no entry for SpamAssassin. . Can anyone give an incantation to get it there (or even visible in Webmin)? The RPM is SpamAssassin-3.0.2-0.1010.lmdk.i586.rpm. Regards David The service is called 'spamd' I'll correct the document. derek Hmm, I'm still running v9.2 here so some things may be different, and if they are, I apologise for wasting the bandwith but... here...if I use spamd it takes a lot longer to d/l my e-mail. If I use spamc on the other hand, all is well. Just a random observation there. PS This however, is not with postfix, just running it through kmail. That´s my problem too! How can I change from spamd to spamc, since spamd is started at boot time? Ricardo Castanho Brazil I think there is a little misunderstanding here. You can use spamassassin in two ways. Firstly as a perl standalone application, in which case you call it with the command 'spamassassin'. This is the simplest way to use spamassassin. See 'man spamassassin' Or secondly as a pair of C programmes called spamd and spamc. Spamd is the daemon which runs continuously, and spamc is the client to access spamd. Spamd/spamc are better for larger mail servers because they have much smaller memory requirements and are faster. My guide describes using spamd/spamc with a Postfix server. See 'man spamc' derek Ok! Got it now! I just thought of the opposite! But in my machine, spamd/spamc are not at all fast and requires a lot of processing power! (this machine is a PII-400 256Mb ram) Ricardo Castanho Brazil - -- == Linux user # 102240 = PGP: 748A9E35 = 100% M$ FREE == Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:55:00 -0300 22:55:00 up 18:51, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.07 Comparing information and knowledge is like asking whether the fatness of a pig is more or less green than the designated hitter rule. - -- David Guaspari -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCInq6lyXj13SKnjURAnIkAJwPX+gDfKe9YsqFIm20ftoBKjLh2QCfXBqz UiM62CWzcfHPeF+cR5DR3fQ= =V8Hf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin startup
On Sunday 27 February 2005 06:51, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote: On Saturday 26 February 2005 22:29, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 27 February 2005 01:24 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 26 February 2005 16:06, David Anderson wrote: Hi, I am following Derek Jennings' excellent Postfix mail server configuration document, and have got stuck in the SpamAssassin part. The doc says that you need to install the RPM, and then start the spamassassin service in Mandrake Control CentreSystemServices. Unfortunately there is no entry for SpamAssassin. . Can anyone give an incantation to get it there (or even visible in Webmin)? The RPM is SpamAssassin-3.0.2-0.1010.lmdk.i586.rpm. Regards David The service is called 'spamd' I'll correct the document. derek Hmm, I'm still running v9.2 here so some things may be different, and if they are, I apologise for wasting the bandwith but... here...if I use spamd it takes a lot longer to d/l my e-mail. If I use spamc on the other hand, all is well. Just a random observation there. PS This however, is not with postfix, just running it through kmail. That´s my problem too! How can I change from spamd to spamc, since spamd is started at boot time? Ricardo Castanho Brazil I think there is a little misunderstanding here. You can use spamassassin in two ways. Firstly as a perl standalone application, in which case you call it with the command 'spamassassin'. This is the simplest way to use spamassassin. See 'man spamassassin' Or secondly as a pair of C programmes called spamd and spamc. Spamd is the daemon which runs continuously, and spamc is the client to access spamd. Spamd/spamc are better for larger mail servers because they have much smaller memory requirements and are faster. My guide describes using spamd/spamc with a Postfix server. See 'man spamc' derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin startup
On Sunday 27 February 2005 06:50 am, Rob Blomquist wrote: Spamc is just a wrapper for spamd, so spamd has to be up and running. But if you want real email filtering you really need to be running spamassassin with more than just the basic rules. That caused me to fetchmail/maildrop/spamassassin/razor/pyzor all my mail before kmail picks it up all marked locally, and its not a hard configuration. The checking of each email with this setup is about 1 to 2 seconds each with my XP-2100, so the hit on Kmail would be serious. Rob Right. spamd is running here. Spamassassin is a service. Again noting that I'm not running postfix, but using it via kmail, that when the filters are setup, if you call spamd instead of spamc, the load and e-mail times are relatively huge. I can't remember how this came up before (but it did), but the simple answer was never to call spamd but always use spamc. I know it made a heckuva difference here, in v9.2. Again, if this has nothing to do with the original post, I apologize - its just what works here. Everyone elses' mileage may vary. :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin startup
On February 27, 2005 09:19, David Anderson wrote: But I don't have a spamd service there either. On searching the system for spamd I only find a perl program called spamd, and not the c-wrappered spamd you mention in a later posting. You may need to install additional packages: spamassassin-spamc-3.0.2-0.1010.1mdk spamassassin-spamd-3.0.2-0.1010.1mdk -- Saul Arias - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin startup
On Saturday 26 February 2005 16:06, David Anderson wrote: Hi, I am following Derek Jennings' excellent Postfix mail server configuration document, and have got stuck in the SpamAssassin part. The doc says that you need to install the RPM, and then start the spamassassin service in Mandrake Control CentreSystemServices. Unfortunately there is no entry for SpamAssassin. . Can anyone give an incantation to get it there (or even visible in Webmin)? The RPM is SpamAssassin-3.0.2-0.1010.lmdk.i586.rpm. Regards David The service is called 'spamd' I'll correct the document. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin startup
On Saturday 26 February 2005 11:06 pm, David Anderson wrote: Hi, I am following Derek Jennings' excellent Postfix mail server configuration document, and have got stuck in the SpamAssassin part. The doc says that you need to install the RPM, and then start the spamassassin service in Mandrake Control CentreSystemServices. Unfortunately there is no entry for SpamAssassin. . Can anyone give an incantation to get it there (or even visible in Webmin)? The RPM is SpamAssassin-3.0.2-0.1010.lmdk.i586.rpm. Regards David Did you successfully install Spamassassin? If so, you should be able to run it by: service spamassassin start -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 08:59:48 up 16:51, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin startup
On Sunday 27 February 2005 01:24 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 26 February 2005 16:06, David Anderson wrote: Hi, I am following Derek Jennings' excellent Postfix mail server configuration document, and have got stuck in the SpamAssassin part. The doc says that you need to install the RPM, and then start the spamassassin service in Mandrake Control CentreSystemServices. Unfortunately there is no entry for SpamAssassin. . Can anyone give an incantation to get it there (or even visible in Webmin)? The RPM is SpamAssassin-3.0.2-0.1010.lmdk.i586.rpm. Regards David The service is called 'spamd' I'll correct the document. derek Hmm, I'm still running v9.2 here so some things may be different, and if they are, I apologise for wasting the bandwith but... here...if I use spamd it takes a lot longer to d/l my e-mail. If I use spamc on the other hand, all is well. Just a random observation there. PS This however, is not with postfix, just running it through kmail. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin startup
On Saturday 26 February 2005 5:29 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Hmm, I'm still running v9.2 here so some things may be different, and if they are, I apologise for wasting the bandwith but... here...if I use spamd it takes a lot longer to d/l my e-mail. If I use spamc on the other hand, all is well. Just a random observation there. PS This however, is not with postfix, just running it through kmail. Spamc is just a wrapper for spamd, so spamd has to be up and running. But if you want real email filtering you really need to be running spamassassin with more than just the basic rules. That caused me to fetchmail/maildrop/spamassassin/razor/pyzor all my mail before kmail picks it up all marked locally, and its not a hard configuration. The checking of each email with this setup is about 1 to 2 seconds each with my XP-2100, so the hit on Kmail would be serious. Rob -- Linux User #183693 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin startup
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:50:44 -0800 Rob Blomquist wrote: The checking of each email with this setup is about 1 to 2 seconds each with my XP-2100, so the hit on Kmail would be serious. I have nothing against spamassassin But if when you look at the CPU usage required and the time for implementation, my personal preference, bogofilter wins hands down. Charles -- Well, O.K. I'll compromise with my principles because of EXISTENTIAL DESPAIR! - Mandrake Linux 10.2 on PurpleDragon 2.6.10-1mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgpCLZRM5CgQU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin startup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 26 February 2005 22:29, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 27 February 2005 01:24 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Saturday 26 February 2005 16:06, David Anderson wrote: Hi, I am following Derek Jennings' excellent Postfix mail server configuration document, and have got stuck in the SpamAssassin part. The doc says that you need to install the RPM, and then start the spamassassin service in Mandrake Control CentreSystemServices. Unfortunately there is no entry for SpamAssassin. . Can anyone give an incantation to get it there (or even visible in Webmin)? The RPM is SpamAssassin-3.0.2-0.1010.lmdk.i586.rpm. Regards David The service is called 'spamd' I'll correct the document. derek Hmm, I'm still running v9.2 here so some things may be different, and if they are, I apologise for wasting the bandwith but... here...if I use spamd it takes a lot longer to d/l my e-mail. If I use spamc on the other hand, all is well. Just a random observation there. PS This however, is not with postfix, just running it through kmail. That´s my problem too! How can I change from spamd to spamc, since spamd is started at boot time? Ricardo Castanho Brazil - -- == Linux user # 102240 = PGP: 748A9E35 = 100% M$ FREE == Sun, 27 Feb 2005 03:50:00 -0300 03:50:00 up 2 days, 8:28, 3 users, load average: 0.28, 0.16, 0.24 Man has made his bedlam; let him lie in it. -- Fred Allen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCIW3tlyXj13SKnjURAtRFAJ4prlOfZzsLcVGupl4IhnPkYsKiMQCdGQgD RbqZAsiuMB6JLFDEY8FWyWo= =ffmu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
