Re: Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
Actually, SCO just wants to jack up it's stock price and/or get bought out. They've succeede (temporarally) on the first part, I don't think the second is going to happen anytime soon. I think I am going to file a suit against SCO for infringing my IP on a device called a 'Wheel' which is used by SCO in the distribution of their products, and a process called 'breathing' in which oxygen is introduced into the body and carbon dioxide is released. Hell, I bet that Mr. McBride breathes and even has a few wheels on his desk chair! I bet he's been breathing for his entire life but I have yet to receive a single royalty check! (This makes only slightly less sense than claiming Linux is infringing on SCOs IP for SMP, JFS, and NUMA...) -Original Message- From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:54:39 -0400 Subject: Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag On Saturday 21 June 2003 06:49 pm, JoeHill graced me with: http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1018669.html It's official, Sun is right in there with MS and SCO. SCO and M$ want Linux to die. Sun just wants to take advantage of the FUD to steal some business from IBM. There's a significant difference. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
On Saturday 21 June 2003 06:49 pm, JoeHill graced me with: http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1018669.html It's official, Sun is right in there with MS and SCO. SCO and M$ want Linux to die. Sun just wants to take advantage of the FUD to steal some business from IBM. There's a significant difference. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:17:46 -0400 MWafkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we all do..this is quickly becoming less than an amusement and more creepy. Oh, I dunno--nothing has really changed in the last week. Since the suit was announced, we've had minor leaks about the validity of the accusations that are divided at best, and a mountain of reasons why SCO will lose. Until the whole case is settled, I bet this pattern will not change one bit. This case will take forever to settle, and the wait in and of itself will tempt Linux users into falling for the FUD. But I really believe IBM and Linux will prevail. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
On Sunday 22 June 2003 04:03 pm, Miark wrote: On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 00:17:46 -0400 MWafkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we all do..this is quickly becoming less than an amusement and more creepy. Oh, I dunno--nothing has really changed in the last week. Since the suit was announced, we've had minor leaks about the validity of the accusations that are divided at best, and a mountain of reasons why SCO will lose. Until the whole case is settled, I bet this pattern will not change one bit. This case will take forever to settle, and the wait in and of itself will tempt Linux users into falling for the FUD. But I really believe IBM and Linux will prevail. Miark One thing not mentioned much and that is the way the US judicial system works. It is not a system based on justice, but a system based on precedence. The interpretation of a legislated law by a court sets precedence and once accepted after all appeals are used up, the courts decision defines the law. (Until of course, new legislation is passed). So do not expect an outcome based on what is fair or just, the outcome will be based on law (see U. S. Govmnt vs. Microsoft, was that fair or just??) just my $0.02 pessimistic as it is. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
On Saturday 21 June 2003 03:49 pm, JoeHill wrote: http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1018669.html It's official, Sun is right in there with MS and SCO. They even have an ad campaign telling nervous IBM customers that they can switch to Solaris because SCO is not after Sun. Well, fsck you too Sun. I'm afraid that the people that they intend to fsck is us Does it seem that the attacks against Linux have increased lately? SCO M$ SUN all have piroproptry O/S's all losing money or watching market share dwindle. Follow the money. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
On Saturday 21 June 2003 06:49 pm, JoeHill wrote: It's official, Sun is right in there with MS and SCO. They even have an ad campaign telling nervous IBM customers that they can switch to Solaris because SCO is not after Sun. Well, I read the whole article, and while I'm not defending Sun, I don't get the same thing out of it you do. I see where Sun is capitalizing on the current situation. Even they see where it probably won't net them a whole lot, but its worth a shot. While I'm not thrilled with the idea that they are taking advantage of a legal dispute to make more sales, I see this as just that., an opportunity to take advantage of the legal dispute. After all, IBM is their biggest competitor. If they can pull one over on them, then so much the better. The article even says that they bought their license several years ago. While, I tend to not believe any company, it has to be taken on its face value until proven otherwise. My 2 cents worth. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
On Saturday 21 June 2003 06:49 pm, JoeHill graced me with: http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1018669.html It's official, Sun is right in there with MS and SCO. They even have an ad campaign telling nervous IBM customers that they can switch to Solaris because SCO is not after Sun. No collusion, Joe. When an animal goes down, all the carnivores come out for a piece of the kill. Sun's taking advantage of an opportunity to get at IBM's market, not Linux in general. Others, big and small, who see a way to take a bite will try to do so, too. Just watch and see who all the meat-eaters really are as this drama unfolds. T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
On Saturday 21 June 2003 07:40 pm, Technoslick wrote: No collusion, Joe. When an animal goes down, all the carnivores come out for a piece of the kill. Sun's taking advantage of an opportunity to get at IBM's market, not Linux in general. Others, big and small, who see a way to take a bite will try to do so, too. Just watch and see who all the meat-eaters really are as this drama unfolds. T I just want to fast-forward and see who's still standing... -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
I think we all do..this is quickly becoming less than an amusement and more creepy. MRW - Original Message - From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag On Saturday 21 June 2003 07:40 pm, Technoslick wrote: No collusion, Joe. When an animal goes down, all the carnivores come out for a piece of the kill. Sun's taking advantage of an opportunity to get at IBM's market, not Linux in general. Others, big and small, who see a way to take a bite will try to do so, too. Just watch and see who all the meat-eaters really are as this drama unfolds. T I just want to fast-forward and see who's still standing... -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/2/03 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag
Isn't it ironic.. that Suns Java was and is being compromised by a clone called C# and .NET, and yet here they are teaming up with SCO and M$ to get some solaris sales from IBM's AIX/Linux market.. And if SCO senses at some stage that Solaris is taking sales from SCO unix, no doubt they will find some legal agenda to go after Sun and it all starts again. Could M$ really ask for anything more?? my god, they are a pack of sharks arn't they... Goes to prove to me that the community development model of OSS is really only one that is based on functionality not dollars and marketing.. Sad but true I think. My theory is that this will end up being beneficial for Linux.. think about it, if this case is lost by SCO.. and enough proof can be made that the unix internals have been floating around the net for too long to be claimed as proprientry then thats the end of it for one and all.. and future claims will be laughed off... regards Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JoeHill Sent: Sunday, 22 June 2003 6:49 AM To: Mandrake Newbs Subject: [newbie] Sun let's the cat out of the bag http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1018669.html It's official, Sun is right in there with MS and SCO. They even have an ad campaign telling nervous IBM customers that they can switch to Solaris because SCO is not after Sun. Well, fsck you too Sun. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
