Re: [newbie] Triple Boot Mandrake

2004-03-15 Thread Mark Weaver
On Sunday 14 March 2004 09:04 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Sunday 14 March 2004 07:22 am, Philip Cronje wrote:
  On Sunday, 14 March 2004 14:10, Stephen Reynolds wrote:
   Will the Mandrake 10.0 Community installation process automatically
   add the second installation of Mandrake to lilo.conf or will it
   overwrite lilo with Mandrake 10.0 Community.
 
  I'm guessing that it will overwrite. Seems to be the logical thing for
  it to do, considering that you won't be upgrading, but installing.
  (Your 9.2 partition won't be mounted, thus it won't know about your
  /etc/lilo.conf).
 
  But this is just me firing shots in the dark :)

 It is quite easy.  During installation of 10.0, you will be asked a
 question of where to install the bootloader.  The choices should be 1) on
 MBR 2) on / (root) partition, or 3) do not install.

 You want to choose number 2, install to root partition.

actually in this situation the best thing to do is simply install the 
bootloader to a floppy and boot the third Mandrake installation from there. 
It works flawlessly this way, and also keeps from getting the bootloader 
stuff already on the hard disk all messed up. Saves on user stress as well.
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Re: [newbie] Triple Boot Mandrake

2004-03-14 Thread Philip Cronje
On Sunday, 14 March 2004 14:10, Stephen Reynolds wrote:
 Will the Mandrake 10.0 Community installation process automatically add
 the second installation of Mandrake to lilo.conf or will it overwrite
 lilo with Mandrake 10.0 Community.
I'm guessing that it will overwrite. Seems to be the logical thing for it to 
do, considering that you won't be upgrading, but installing. (Your 9.2 
partition won't be mounted, thus it won't know about your /etc/lilo.conf).

But this is just me firing shots in the dark :)


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Re: [newbie] Triple Boot Mandrake

2004-03-14 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 14 March 2004 07:22 am, Philip Cronje wrote:
 On Sunday, 14 March 2004 14:10, Stephen Reynolds wrote:
  Will the Mandrake 10.0 Community installation process automatically add
  the second installation of Mandrake to lilo.conf or will it overwrite
  lilo with Mandrake 10.0 Community.

 I'm guessing that it will overwrite. Seems to be the logical thing for it
 to do, considering that you won't be upgrading, but installing. (Your 9.2
 partition won't be mounted, thus it won't know about your /etc/lilo.conf).

 But this is just me firing shots in the dark :)

It is quite easy.  During installation of 10.0, you will be asked a question 
of where to install the bootloader.  The choices should be 1) on MBR 2) on / 
(root) partition, or 3) do not install.

You want to choose number 2, install to root partition.

You will temporarily not be able to boot into 10.0 until you go back into 9.2 
and adjust your lilo there.  Make note of the device for the root partition 
for 10.0 (something like /dev/hda6) Then when the installation finishes, it 
will reboot and you will get your old lilo menu.  boot to 9.2 and then edit 
your /etc/lilo.conf file.  You should see a stanza in there for winxp that 
looks like this:

other=/dev/hda1
label=windows
table=/dev/hda

Add another one for 10.0 that looks like this:

other=/dev/hdax
label=Mandrake10
table=/dev/hda

replace the /dev/hdax with the actual root partition of your 10.0 install.

now run lilo to effect the changes and when you reboot, you should see an 
entry for 10.0.  When you swelect it, the 10.0 lilo menu should come up with 
a choice to boot 10.0.

I hope I didn't make any mistakes, but the others on this list will quickly 
correct me if I did.  HTH.
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Re: [newbie] Triple Boot Mandrake

2004-03-14 Thread Steve Kaufman






Here's a real newbie question but maybe a good answer

Why not backup your lilo.conf to a diskette and thenmerge it with the one 10.0 will build. Actually after you boot to 10.0 can't you just mount the old partisions and get access to the old lilo.conf?

Can't you just let 10.0buildLILO to the MBR? When I build 9.2 it found all my bootable devices so I would thinkthat during the the 10.0 install that the process would find window/9.2/10.0 and build the boot record accordingly and even if it didn't you could then just take the conf file you backed up and merge it with the one 10.0 built.

This is totally a guess on my part beinga very newbie and not having loaded 10.0 but it seems logicalI know I shouldn't trust logic but what the he**.

Had I been installing 10.0 this is the choice I would have used.

Steve
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Subject: Re: [newbie] Triple Boot Mandrake

On Sunday 14 March 2004 07:22 am, Philip Cronje wrote:
 On Sunday, 14 March 2004 14:10, Stephen Reynolds wrote:
  Will the Mandrake 10.0 Community installation process automatically add
  the second installation of Mandrake to lilo.conf or will it overwrite
  lilo with Mandrake 10.0 Community.

 I'm guessing that it will overwrite. Seems to be the logical thing for it
 to do, considering that you won't be upgrading, but installing. (Your 9.2
 partition won't be mounted, thus it won't know about your /etc/lilo.conf).

 But this is just me firing shots in the dark :)

It is quite easy.During installation of 10.0, you will be asked a question
of where to install the bootloader.The choices should be 1) on MBR 2) on /
(root) partition, or 3) do not install.

You want to choose number 2, install to root partition.

You will temporarily not be able to boot into 10.0 until you go back into 9.2
and adjust your lilo there.Make note of the device for the root partition
for 10.0 (something like /dev/hda6) Then when the installation finishes, it
will reboot and you will get your old lilo menu.boot to 9.2 and then edit
your /etc/lilo.conf file.You should see a stanza in there for winxp that
looks like this:

other=/dev/hda1
label="windows"
table=/dev/hda

Add another one for 10.0 that looks like this:

other=/dev/hdax
label="Mandrake10"
table=/dev/hda

replace the /dev/hdax with the actual root partition of your 10.0 install.

now run lilo to effect the changes and when you reboot, you should see an
entry for 10.0.When you swelect it, the 10.0 lilo menu should come up with
a choice to boot 10.0.

I hope I didn't make any mistakes, but the others on this list will quickly
correct me if I did.HTH.
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Re: [newbie] Triple Boot Mandrake

2004-03-14 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 14 March 2004 09:49 am, Steve Kaufman wrote:
 Here's a real newbie question but maybe a good answer

 Why not backup your lilo.conf to a diskette and then merge it with the one
 10.0 will build. Actually after you boot to 10.0 can't you just mount the
 old partisions and get access to the old lilo.conf?

 Can't you just let 10.0 build LILO to the MBR? When I build 9.2 it found
 all my bootable devices so I would think that during the the 10.0 install
 that the process would find window/9.2/10.0 and build the boot record
 accordingly and even if it didn't you could then just take the conf file
 you backed up and merge it with the one 10.0 built.

 This is totally a guess on my part being a very newbie and not having
 loaded 10.0 but it seems logical  I know I shouldn't trust logic but
 what the he**.

 Had I been installing 10.0 this is the choice I would have used.

Yes there are ways to use this, in fact it is much easier using GrUB than with 
LILO, but as this is a newbie list, I chose to instruct in getting a 10.0 
installation triple booted with a minimum amount of fuss and 
learning/research.  These other methods require a little more planning and 
advanced knowledge about how the kernel boots.

The instructions to use one instance of LILO or GrUB exist all over the place, 
and any enterprising user could find what they need if they know what they 
are doing.  So, in the interest of getting the OP going ASAP, this does the 
job.  If he later wants to go do the required learning to simplify the setup, 
he can do that when he is ready.

The other nice thing about the method I noted is that you can then install any 
OS on that spare partition and never have to update the main lilo.conf again.  
Always chainloading the boot will let whatever OS you install on that spare 
partition boot without additional work.  This is the method I use on my spare 
partition that I use for running cooker or experimenting with other distros.  
I can forever do clean installs and just install the bootloader to the root 
partition, making the first reboot easy.  If you consolidate the bootloaders, 
every time you install something new, you have to go back and boot the 
controlling OS and edit the bootloader config.
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Re: [newbie] Triple Boot Mandrake

2004-03-14 Thread Steve Kaufman
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Sunday 14 March 2004 09:49 am, Steve Kaufman wrote:

Here's a real newbie question but maybe a good answer

Why not backup your lilo.conf to a diskette and then merge it with the one
10.0 will build. Actually after you boot to 10.0 can't you just mount the
old partisions and get access to the old lilo.conf?
Can't you just let 10.0 build LILO to the MBR? When I build 9.2 it found
all my bootable devices so I would think that during the the 10.0 install
that the process would find window/9.2/10.0 and build the boot record
accordingly and even if it didn't you could then just take the conf file
you backed up and merge it with the one 10.0 built.
This is totally a guess on my part being a very newbie and not having
loaded 10.0 but it seems logical  I know I shouldn't trust logic but
what the he**.
Had I been installing 10.0 this is the choice I would have used.


Yes there are ways to use this, in fact it is much easier using GrUB than with 
LILO, but as this is a newbie list, I chose to instruct in getting a 10.0 
installation triple booted with a minimum amount of fuss and 
learning/research.  These other methods require a little more planning and 
advanced knowledge about how the kernel boots.

The instructions to use one instance of LILO or GrUB exist all over the place, 
and any enterprising user could find what they need if they know what they 
are doing.  So, in the interest of getting the OP going ASAP, this does the 
job.  If he later wants to go do the required learning to simplify the setup, 
he can do that when he is ready.

The other nice thing about the method I noted is that you can then install any 
OS on that spare partition and never have to update the main lilo.conf again.  
Always chainloading the boot will let whatever OS you install on that spare 
partition boot without additional work.  This is the method I use on my spare 
partition that I use for running cooker or experimenting with other distros.  
I can forever do clean installs and just install the bootloader to the root 
partition, making the first reboot easy.  If you consolidate the bootloaders, 
every time you install something new, you have to go back and boot the 
controlling OS and edit the bootloader config.



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Thanks Greg I did not think of that. I was just thinking that one 
prompt for what I wanted to load was enough but your explanation 
makes sense and is probably less risky and more flexible than mine.

Thanks
Steve
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Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?

2004-01-15 Thread Eric Huff
  I could be wrong, but I think the restore function reads
  lilo.conf, restoring all entries that previously
  existed--including Winblows entries. Can anybody confirm this?
 
 That's correct.

Is that the cli command, or is it an option on the cd?

thanks,
eric

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Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?

2004-01-15 Thread Miark
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:55:14 -0800, Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I could be wrong, but I think the restore function reads
   lilo.conf, restoring all entries that previously
   existed--including Winblows entries. Can anybody confirm this?
  
  That's correct.
 
 Is that the cli command, or is it an option on the cd?

Option on the CD.

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Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?

2004-01-15 Thread Eric Huff
I could be wrong, but I think the restore function reads
lilo.conf, restoring all entries that previously
existed--including Winblows entries. Can anybody confirm
this?
   
   That's correct.
  
  Is that the cli command, or is it an option on the cd?
 
 Option on the CD.

Thanks.  I'll definitely add this to my notes...

eric

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Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?

2004-01-14 Thread Miark
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:20:23 -0500, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 With XOSL that i use, installing Windows at any time would not cause any
  problem! It is true that windows writes to MBR and wipes out whatever is
  there. However XOSL has a restore option! So after installing a windows OS,
  I insert the XOSL floppy and restore it! Then i am on XOSL as before! Cool!
I wonder if Mandrake could include a similar restore facility.
 
 It does.  You can run the Mandrake CD in rescue mode and it will rewrite Lilo 
 to the MBR if it has been overwritten.  You can then manually add boot 
 options for Windows 98, XP, etc.

I could be wrong, but I think the restore function reads lilo.conf, restoring
all entries that previously existed--including Winblows entries. Can anybody
confirm this?

Miark

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Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?

2004-01-14 Thread Joe
Miark wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:20:23 -0500, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

  With XOSL that i use, installing Windows at any time would not cause any
problem! It is true that windows writes to MBR and wipes out whatever is
there. However XOSL has a restore option! So after installing a windows OS,
I insert the XOSL floppy and restore it! Then i am on XOSL as before! Cool!
 I wonder if Mandrake could include a similar restore facility.
 

It does.  You can run the Mandrake CD in rescue mode and it will rewrite Lilo 
to the MBR if it has been overwritten.  You can then manually add boot 
options for Windows 98, XP, etc.
   

I could be wrong, but I think the restore function reads lilo.conf, restoring
all entries that previously existed--including Winblows entries. Can anybody
confirm this?
Miark
 

windows entries are restored too if i remember correctly




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Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?

2004-01-13 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 12:54 am, Ramin wrote:

   You are right. I forgot to explain this case.  Actually my case was even
 more complicated since i wanted to reinstall Windows XP too. Once during
 the installation i used Mandrake partition utility to define partitions and
 format them but quit the installation before installing the packages (well
 it was a waste of time since i had to do it again later any way). Then i
 installed Windows XP and later Mandrake. This time i did not have to
 partition the disks but i had to format the first primary partition from
 Linux to FAT to install DrDOs there. This was because it is impossible to
 fool Windows XP by hiding FAT partitions: it always sees them and want to
 pick the first one as drive C:/.

However, Windows XP does not need to boot from C:.  It will happily default to 
booting from D: if you specify that drive as the installation target.  
Windows 98, OTOH, is not so versatile.  You will need to have Windows 98 
installed in the primary partition on the first hard drive in order to boot 
with it.  

I would suggest creating a FAT partition on the first hard drive and 
formatting and installing Windows 98.  Next, install Windows XP on a new D: 
partition, it will overwrite the MBR but add a boot line to the boot menu for 
both Windows 98 and Windows XP.  Finally, reinstall Mandrake and it should 
add Lilo which will happily add all Linux boot options as well as Windows XP 
and 98 to its boot menu.

With XOSL that i use, installing Windows at any time would not cause any
 problem! It is true that windows writes to MBR and wipes out whatever is
 there. However XOSL has a restore option! So after installing a windows OS,
 I insert the XOSL floppy and restore it! Then i am on XOSL as before! Cool!
   I wonder if Mandrake could include a similar restore facility.

It does.  You can run the Mandrake CD in rescue mode and it will rewrite Lilo 
to the MBR if it has been overwritten.  You can then manually add boot 
options for Windows 98, XP, etc.
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Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?

2004-01-12 Thread Ramin
  Hiding from Windows98 should be fairly easy as  it is rather an old windows. 
And i noticed during mandrake installation that it does have hidden FAT among 
the options for the file system. I have though not tried to see if how it 
performs. I am using XOSL as my boot loader which come with Ranish partition 
manager and i can install windows2k on the third partition while the first 
two partitions are FAT or NTFS! I however do not use hidden fat (it may work 
though, but i don´t remember what was the problem). I record the first two 
partitions as linux type  using RPM even though they are windows type! This 
way is guaranteed to work for me. Windows98 is older and i think hiding FAT 
partitions is very likely to work. 
  So if it was me, the first way i would try is using Mandrake partition 
manager to hide the first two windows partitions and write the setting to the 
MBR. Then i would start installing Windows98. I should repeat that i have not  
tried this myself before,
 but the Mandrake 9.2 partition manager seems very reliable (it was not the 
case for Mandrake 9.0 to my opinion).

Regards, Ramin
 
On January 12, 2004 09:45 pm, Joe wrote:
 A friend has a laptop, which has XP in the first partition. When I
 installed mandrake, I created a small fat32 partition between XP and
 mandrake, with the intent of putting 98 in there for some legacy app he
 wants to use (something for working with an old version of windows CE
 that doesn't run under XP, havn't tried it under wine...yet). Did a
 quick search on google and found this page:
 http://www.vamos.de/english/bootman2.html#dos
 It is an OS2 tool that can hide a primary partition from windows so that
 it sees the second partition as c:

 Is there a way to do this with lilo or grub?
 Is there an easier way?

 TIA for suggestions.

 Joe.


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Re: [newbie] triple boot with windows XP, 98 and mdk 9.2?

2004-01-12 Thread jason pearl
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 23:34:48 -0500
Ramin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hiding from Windows98 should be fairly easy as  it is rather an old
  windows. 
And i noticed during mandrake installation that it does have hidden FAT
among the options for the file system. I have though not tried to see
if how it performs. I am using XOSL as my boot loader which come with
Ranish partition manager and i can install windows2k on the third
partition while the first two partitions are FAT or NTFS! I however do
not use hidden fat (it may work though, but i don´t remember what was
the problem). I record the first two partitions as linux type  using
RPM even though they are windows type! This way is guaranteed to work
for me. Windows98 is older and i think hiding FAT partitions is very
likely to work. 
  So if it was me, the first way i would try is using Mandrake
  partition 
manager to hide the first two windows partitions and write the setting
to the MBR. Then i would start installing Windows98. I should repeat
that i have not  tried this myself before,
 but the Mandrake 9.2 partition manager seems very reliable (it was not
 the 
case for Mandrake 9.0 to my opinion).

Regards, Ramin
 
On January 12, 2004 09:45 pm, Joe wrote:
 A friend has a laptop, which has XP in the first partition. When I
 installed mandrake, I created a small fat32 partition between XP and
 mandrake, with the intent of putting 98 in there for some legacy app
he wants to use (something for working with an old version of windows
CE that doesn't run under XP, havn't tried it under wine...yet). Did a
 quick search on google and found this page:
 http://www.vamos.de/english/bootman2.html#dos
 It is an OS2 tool that can hide a primary partition from windows so
that it sees the second partition as c:

 Is there a way to do this with lilo or grub?
 Is there an easier way?

 TIA for suggestions.

 Joe.



I used to do it ... first start blank then install 98 then install winxp
pro or win 2000 then linux.. linux and windows will  show up on the lilo
boot when you boot windows it will take you to the nt loader and you can
boot 98 from there. I think its not possible to boot 98 in the middle
how you explained it. windows likes to install to the mbr ;)


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Re: [newbie] triple boot

2003-01-23 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 01:21, ivette brusselmans wrote:
 Have installed
 W2k
 mandrake 9.0
 still have 15 GB unpartitioned space on my HDD
 would like to install redhat 8.1 first and be able to choose from 3 OS in 
 lilo
 
 later want to install debian woody and be able to choose from the 4 OS in 
 lilo
 
 what do I add to my present lilo configuration?
 

What you might want to do is to let RH 8.1 have it's own little boot
partition - and write only to the first sector of that boot partition -
then you can have the MDK lilo start the RH lilo - the reason I'd do
this is because you may run across an issue where you need to be able to
change params prior to kernel load...either which - else a good way of
doing it would be to have an RH 8.1 bootdisk - then you wouldn't need to
muck around with the MDK lilo (you could endanger some things).

Are you going to install RH 8.0, or RH 8.1beta (actually version 8.092)?

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Re: [newbie] Triple boot? Solved, with great thanks to Philomena!

2001-04-02 Thread philomena

You are very, very welcome ! :-)

philomena

Kipling Cooper wrote:
 
 Thank you so very much!!!
 
 Your very helpful repley helped solve two problems:
 1 Grub does not reinstall after Win95 reinstall
 Solution: make /boot/grub/install.sh executable
 
 2 Can not quintuple boot
 Solution: supply the correct kernel path, as you detailed.
 
 * philomena [EMAIL PROTECTED] [31 Mar 01 07:12]:
  In this sample, the menu choice will be listed as "linux", the kernel
  will boot from hda5, and the root partition is in hda15. The (hd0,4)
  entry sort of starts counting from zero as 1, so that 4 partitions up
  from "zero" is hda5.
 This was the critical step.  Caldera, Debian, and LM all use
 different kernels.  Thanks you!
 
  Since I install grub during the installation process, I haven't had to
  install the package on its own - is that causing your error ?
 I reinstalled Win 95, and then coudl not get grub reinstalled, but
 knowing WHAT installed grub was the missing link in figuring out HOW
 to re-install grub. Thank you again!
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Re: [newbie] Triple boot?

2001-03-30 Thread Kipling Cooper

* Philomena [EMAIL PROTECTED] [15 Mar 01 22:51]:
 I have GRUB setup to boot each of the /boot partitions appropriately

Hi there!

Could you give me a little more detail on how to do that, please?

When I try to run 'grub-install /dev/hda1' I get:

/usr/share/grub/i386-mandrake/stage1: Not found.
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Re: [newbie] Triple boot?

2001-03-30 Thread philomena


Hi,

Here's what I do - edit the file menu.lst which is in the /boot/grub
subdir. There should be an entry there that looks something like this:

title linux
kernel(hd0,4)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda15 

In this sample, the menu choice will be listed as "linux", the kernel
will boot from hda5, and the root partition is in hda15. The (hd0,4)
entry sort of starts counting from zero as 1, so that 4 partitions up
from "zero" is hda5. 

When I installed, I installed Mandrake 7.2 first, since that is stable,
and had it install GRUB to the MBR. You can also do this by running
install.sh in the /boot/grub subdir. Then, for each subsequent OS
install, I directed the installs to NOT load a bootloader, and just
create a boot disk. Then, I went back into 7.2, cut and pasted the
existing 7.2 boot entry, and edited each entry for where to find the
boot partitions for each OS. So, I have 5 different OS installs, and
grub handles it all very nicely.

Since I install grub during the installation process, I haven't had to
install the package on its own - is that causing your error ? 

I know that this can be set this up by also using only one boot
partition, and specifying different names for the kernel files. But, I
had no luck whatsoever doing that, so just went back to this method
(having different boot partitions for each distributions install). 

Hope this helps...
philomena

Kipling Cooper wrote:
 
 * Philomena [EMAIL PROTECTED] [15 Mar 01 22:51]:
  I have GRUB setup to boot each of the /boot partitions appropriately
 
 Hi there!
 
 Could you give me a little more detail on how to do that, please?
 
 When I try to run 'grub-install /dev/hda1' I get:
 
 /usr/share/grub/i386-mandrake/stage1: Not found.
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Re: [newbie] Triple boot?

2001-03-17 Thread Cyphfer

Additonal Note.  If you are adding Windows 2000 to the mix, it must reside below 2 
gigs of the first hard drive.


On Fri, 16 March 2001, Romanator wrote:

 
 michael wrote:
  
  I was quadribooting for awhile (NT,98SE,RH,MDK7.2).
  Make sure windows is on first.
  -m-
  
  Jon Doe wrote:
  
   I currently run Win98SE and Linux Mandrake 7.2 and things work just fine, but
   I would like to also run Red Hat. Is triple boot a bad idea? If not what is
   the best way to install all three?
  
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 Windows 95 or Windows 98 first, then WIndows NT4 and any other OS.
 
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Re: [newbie] Triple boot?

2001-03-16 Thread Romanator

Jon Doe wrote:
 
 I currently run Win98SE and Linux Mandrake 7.2 and things work just fine, but
 I would like to also run Red Hat. Is triple boot a bad idea? If not what is
 the best way to install all three?
 
 --
 
 linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste

Get System Commander 2000. It's a super boot loader and partitioning
tool.

Roman




Re: [newbie] Triple boot?

2001-03-16 Thread Romanator

michael wrote:
 
 I was quadribooting for awhile (NT,98SE,RH,MDK7.2).
 Make sure windows is on first.
 -m-
 
 Jon Doe wrote:
 
  I currently run Win98SE and Linux Mandrake 7.2 and things work just fine, but
  I would like to also run Red Hat. Is triple boot a bad idea? If not what is
  the best way to install all three?
 
  --
 
  linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste

Windows 95 or Windows 98 first, then WIndows NT4 and any other OS.

Roman




Re: [newbie] Triple boot?

2001-03-15 Thread Peter Smith

Can I ask how you folks got the second (and beyond)
linux distributions installed? Everytime I've tried
that I've run into problems because the new
distribution sees the old distributions root, boot,
usr, etc, and refuses to create new ones.

I have a windows/mandrake dual boot system with about
10 gigs on allocated disk space. I'd like to try to
get Slackware or Debian installed in that empty space.

--- philomena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 triple boot should be no problem - I have 5 on one
 machine -  4 linux
 and a win98. There's probably a better way, but I
 just set up a
 different boot partition for each OS, and use grub
 as the bootloader. I
 did the partitioning first using Partition Magic.
 
 cheers,
 philomena


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Re: [newbie] Triple boot?

2001-03-15 Thread Philomena

I haven't run into anything like that, possibly since I have setup the 
partitions before I do the installs. For example, I have my machine setup 
with about 16 different partitions - when I installed any of the distros, I 
made sure to use the expert or custom mode, so that I could specifiy the 
mount points. I only mount the partitions that the install should see, so 
that distro isn't even aware of the others. This may not be the most 
efficient method, but it does work. Right now, I have Mandrake 7.2 and the 
8.0 beta, SuSe 7.1 and the latest RedHat beta, Wolverine. Each has its own 
/boot, root and /home partition - I haven't tried sharing any partitions. I 
have GRUB setup to boot each of the /boot partitions appropriately

So, I would recommend repartioning your extra space and then see what happens.

Cheers,
Philomena

At 11:59 AM 3/15/2001 -0800, you wrote:
Can I ask how you folks got the second (and beyond)
linux distributions installed? Everytime I've tried
that I've run into problems because the new
distribution sees the old distributions root, boot,
usr, etc, and refuses to create new ones.

I have a windows/mandrake dual boot system with about
10 gigs on allocated disk space. I'd like to try to
get Slackware or Debian installed in that empty space.

--- philomena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  triple boot should be no problem - I have 5 on one
  machine -  4 linux
  and a win98. There's probably a better way, but I
  just set up a
  different boot partition for each OS, and use grub
  as the bootloader. I
  did the partitioning first using Partition Magic.
 
  cheers,
  philomena


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Re: [newbie] Triple boot?

2001-03-14 Thread KompuKit

good question...I'd like to know this also...
as I'd like to add redhat 6.0 to the current 20 gig HD

/root  5   gig
/home  10  gig   mandrake
/swap  128 meg

have about 4.9 gig left over for redhat

Jon Doe wrote:
 
 I currently run Win98SE and Linux Mandrake 7.2 and things work just fine, but
 I would like to also run Red Hat. Is triple boot a bad idea? If not what is
 the best way to install all three?
 
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Re: [newbie] Triple boot?

2001-03-14 Thread michael

I was quadribooting for awhile (NT,98SE,RH,MDK7.2).
Make sure windows is on first.
-m-

Jon Doe wrote:

 I currently run Win98SE and Linux Mandrake 7.2 and things work just fine, but
 I would like to also run Red Hat. Is triple boot a bad idea? If not what is
 the best way to install all three?

 --

 linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste





Re: [newbie] Triple boot?

2001-03-14 Thread philomena

triple boot should be no problem - I have 5 on one machine -  4 linux
and a win98. There's probably a better way, but I just set up a
different boot partition for each OS, and use grub as the bootloader. I
did the partitioning first using Partition Magic.

cheers,
philomena

Jon Doe wrote:
 
 I currently run Win98SE and Linux Mandrake 7.2 and things work just fine, but
 I would like to also run Red Hat. Is triple boot a bad idea? If not what is
 the best way to install all three?
 
 --
 
 linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste




Re: [newbie] Triple boot?

2001-03-14 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

There shouldn't be anything wrong with what you propose. Just make 
sure that you have a different partition for each OS (of course) and 
that you set up your bootloader (LILO, GRUB, etc.) properly so that 
you can boot all three OSs. I have even heard about people having 
several distros installed but having only one /home partition that is 
shared amongst the distros. That way your user settings carry across 
distros. I haven't tried it myself so I have no ideas on what problems 
(if any) it could cause.


On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:30, Jon Doe wrote:
 I currently run Win98SE and Linux Mandrake 7.2 and things work just
 fine, but I would like to also run Red Hat. Is triple boot a bad
 idea? If not what is the best way to install all three?

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