Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Ok Vic...how's this? I'm sure you've seen a Windows "blus screen of death", right? Well that's the background color. Very non-descript looking. Then in the middle of all tha blue there is a small menu, and on that menu are the choices you are presented with at boot time. If you make no choices the default will boot. It's all done from the keyboard. Frankly, I think the hype about Grub is a lot of hot air and I don't see what all the fuss is about. But...that's what Grub looks like. Nuttin fancy...just the nuts and bolts needed to start the machine. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Vic wrote: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
boot. It's all done from the keyboard. Frankly, I think the hype about Grub is a lot of hot air and I don't see what all the fuss is about. Hype? Not sure I know what you're referring to Mark but I'd agree that it doesn't do much beyond what Lilo does. It's really too bad that the graphics are a bit nicer it currently isn't very professional/modern looking. The single thing that Corel does right is in setting up a decent menu of boot choices. Speaking of Grub, anyone know how to get the cursor to be sitting on an option that ISN'T the default? For most I suspect that Grub is used to choose between Windows and Linux most of the time. It makes sense to have the cursor on the option that ISN'T the default as all you'd have to do is hit a CR rather than moving the cursor from the default to the other one...in my case Windows. I can rearrange the menu order, change colors, change defaults but I see no way of determining where the cursor is going to sit and it always comes up on the default, the option that I NEVER interact with the menu to get (just let it auto-boot through Grub to the default). Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Many thanks for the info, however I think I screwed something up, I think I did not get the install.sh file somehow, I still have 7.0-2 but I installed the newest rpm that I am aware of from the rpmfind thingy, and still no install.sh fileuh oh. This IS install.sh grub --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --batch EOF install (hd0,4)/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd0,4)/grub/stage2 p (hd0,4)/grub/menu.lst quit EOF It goes in the /boot/grub directory. It's menu.lst, however, that you edit to set up options for grub. Are you sure that isn't the file you're looking for? Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Paul wrote: Just run /boot/grub/install.sh as root and Grub is back in town :) Thanks, Ron. -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit. -- Publius Vergilius Maro --- http://personales.conexion.com.py/~rolgiati ---
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
I much prefer Lilo anyway. Like the fact that it is only one line. it fixs in with the rest of the boot proccess, Grub look out of place. Also lilo is so much easier to use. Mark Mark Weaver wrote: Ok Vic...how's this? I'm sure you've seen a Windows "blus screen of death", right? Well that's the background color. Very non-descript looking. Then in the middle of all tha blue there is a small menu, and on that menu are the choices you are presented with at boot time. If you make no choices the default will boot. It's all done from the keyboard. Frankly, I think the hype about Grub is a lot of hot air and I don't see what all the fuss is about. But...that's what Grub looks like. Nuttin fancy...just the nuts and bolts needed to start the machine. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Vic wrote: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Uh oh I think I might see the problem, the menu.lst file is missing, do I just create it? Or is the install supposed to do that? On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Larry Marshall wrote: Many thanks for the info, however I think I screwed something up, I think I did not get the install.sh file somehow, I still have 7.0-2 but I installed the newest rpm that I am aware of from the rpmfind thingy, and still no install.sh fileuh oh. This IS install.sh grub --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --batch EOF install (hd0,4)/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd0,4)/grub/stage2 p (hd0,4)/grub/menu.lst quit EOF It goes in the /boot/grub directory. It's menu.lst, however, that you edit to set up options for grub. Are you sure that isn't the file you're looking for? Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Uh oh I think I might see the problem, the menu.lst file is missing, do I just create it? Or is the install supposed to do that? The install should have done that. Here's my menu.lst file. I'm going to drop some comments into it to explain it to you. If you're going to use this, you need to delete them. I'll preface them with # but I'm not sure if grub will ignore them as comments. BTW, are you the guy who originally asked about what Grub looks like? Were you left at the grub prompt with no way to exit? #***menu.lst*** timeout 5 #This is the number of seconds before your default OS is booted. color black/cyan /cyan #These set some colors i18n (hd0,4)/grub/messages # This says to put grub's message file on the boot partition of Linux in the grub dir. keytable (hd0,4)/us.klt # tells grub where its definitions are default 1 #defines the default boot system...starting with zero, these are in the order listed title windows root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 # an OS definition. This defines Windows as being "zero" title linux kernel (hd0,4)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 hdc=ide-scsi # Linux is "1" title failsafe kernel (hd0,4)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 hdc=ide-scsi failsafe # failsafe is a survival boot mode in case of emergency title floppy root (fd0) chainloader +1 # choosing this forces a boot from a floppy. I hope this is clear. As people here have suggested, if you're running 7.1 (which has a Lilo without restrictions) I think you're better off running Lilo. Easier too as it's likely that all you'd have to do at this point is type "lilo" from the commandline as the root user and you'd be off and running. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Here is a sample: timeout 5 color black/cyan yellow/cyan i18n (hd0,2)/grub/messages keytable (hd0,2)/us.klt default 0 title linux kernel (hd0,2)/vmlinuz-secure root=/dev/hda5 initrd (hd0,2)/initrd-secure.img title failsafe kernel (hd0,2)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 failsafe initrd (hd0,2)/initrd.img
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Cool thanx. On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Michael wrote: Here is a sample: timeout 5 color black/cyan yellow/cyan i18n (hd0,2)/grub/messages keytable (hd0,2)/us.klt default 0 title linux kernel (hd0,2)/vmlinuz-secure root=/dev/hda5 initrd (hd0,2)/initrd-secure.img title failsafe kernel (hd0,2)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 failsafe initrd (hd0,2)/initrd.img
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:42:33 -0500, Vic said: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? With an attitude like that you will find that "help' is hard to come by around here. If you had spent more than a few seconds looking around you might have found this: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.1/QuickLook/grub. php3 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com -- David Boles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
I don't have any screen shots I can forward, but you could look at 'info grub' which is the manual (I'm still trying to figure out how to print it out. It's stuffed into a couple *.bz2 files.) Another excellent resource is - http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-faq.html I hope these help. Barry :-) On Wed, 27 September 2000, Vic wrote: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com _ The freedom to choose your own Internet access price. Surfree.com - got to be free http://www.surfree.com
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
That is not very nice. The guy was just trying to help and you bit off his head. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub? oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Well he flames people can't I flame him too? BTW thanks for the url On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, David Boles wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:42:33 -0500, Vic said: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? With an attitude like that you will find that "help' is hard to come by around here. If you had spent more than a few seconds looking around you might have found this: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.1/QuickLook/grub. php3 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com -- David Boles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
I tried that url, is the server down? On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, David Boles wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:42:33 -0500, Vic said: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? With an attitude like that you will find that "help' is hard to come by around here. If you had spent more than a few seconds looking around you might have found this: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.1/QuickLook/grub. php3 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com -- David Boles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Many many many thanks! Excellent! On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have any screen shots I can forward, but you could look at 'info grub' which is the manual (I'm still trying to figure out how to print it out. It's stuffed into a couple *.bz2 files.) Another excellent resource is - http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-faq.html I hope these help. Barry :-) On Wed, 27 September 2000, Vic wrote: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com _ The freedom to choose your own Internet access price. Surfree.com - got to be free http://www.surfree.com
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Ok wait a minute, I got it, must have been a network glitch down the pipe, its back up. Thanks On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, David Boles wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:42:33 -0500, Vic said: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? With an attitude like that you will find that "help' is hard to come by around here. If you had spent more than a few seconds looking around you might have found this: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.1/QuickLook/grub. php3 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com -- David Boles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Grub isn't anything fancy to look at (though more than lilo). A basic blue box w/ a list of the OS's/kernels you can load. As it runs before the OS screenshots are troublesome to get (not impossible). I think it's a little nicer since you don't have to type in kernel names and it's easier for non-geeks to grok. *^*^*^* Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? -- Real Genius On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Jeff Malka wrote: That is not very nice. The guy was just trying to help and you bit off his head. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub? oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Sorry thought he was yellin at me like he did my room mate, I know Charley used my computer before without asking me, and I told him about it, changed my password and created him an account. I asked the last flame he did to re direct it to my room mate but he never did On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Jeff Malka wrote: That is not very nice. The guy was just trying to help and you bit off his head. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub? oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots. Any *useful* information now?? On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 26-Sep-00 13:44:39 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. you can find it in the install demo at linux-mandrake.com
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Oh ok, I wonder, is there a way I can create a "rescue" disc in case I want to replace grub with Lilo in case it does not co-operate? I don't think I have grub installed, as it is just some files in /boot/grub and no install.sh file. Do I need to install some other software to activate it? Well, off to snoop around in the faq about grub, although I don't think I caught anything about how to specify a runlevel, maybe I need to snoop more or something. many thanks On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Michael wrote: Grub isn't anything fancy to look at (though more than lilo). A basic blue box w/ a list of the OS's/kernels you can load. As it runs before the OS screenshots are troublesome to get (not impossible). I think it's a little nicer since you don't have to type in kernel names and it's easier for non-geeks to grok. *^*^*^* Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you? -- Real Genius On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Jeff Malka wrote:
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Vic wrote: Oh ok, I wonder, is there a way I can create a "rescue" disc in case I want to replace grub with Lilo in case it does not co-operate? I have the opposite problem: how can I re-install GRUB ? It came as standard with my Mandrake 7.1 install, but was replaced by LILO when I modified my boot procedure with Drakboot. TIA, Ron the Frog, on the banks of the Paraguay River. -- Children are natural mimic who act like their parents despite every effort to teach them good manners. --- http://personales.conexion.com.py/~rolgiati ---
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
Vic wrote: Oh ok, I wonder, is there a way I can create a "rescue" disc in case I want to replace grub with Lilo in case it does not co-operate? I don't think I have grub installed, as it is just some files in /boot/grub and no install.sh file. Do I need to install some other software to activate it? Well, off to snoop around in the faq about grub, although I don't think I caught anything about how to specify a runlevel, maybe I need to snoop more or something. many thanks Changing your default log in is done in /etc/inittab. To change from the text log in to graphical, you would change the line: id:3:initdefault to id:5:initdefault Since I don't trust my memory, I went back to the newbie archives to get the info. You will also find references on how to move from LILO to GRUB and back again. Mandrake installed GRUB automatically for me, and I have been happy with it. Since I'm running only one OS, I haven't had a reason to fiddle with it. Making changes is rather straight forward though. You simply need to edit the menu.lst file. There are numerous examples on how it should look. Enjoy. -- Barry :-) Registered Linux User #183879
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
2000-09-27. Incoming bitstream from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Vic wrote: Oh ok, I wonder, is there a way I can create a "rescue" disc in case I want to replace grub with Lilo in case it does not co-operate? I have the opposite problem: how can I re-install GRUB ? It came as standard with my Mandrake 7.1 install, but was replaced by LILO when I modified my boot procedure with Drakboot. Just run /boot/grub/install.sh as root and Grub is back in town :) Paul -- I am not in denial. I'm just really picky about the reality I accept. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
i think your blind next time read it pointed strait to it and only took me a minute to find it but here is the site http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.1/QuickLook/grub.php3 enjoy In a message dated 27-Sep-00 07:43:53 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: oh gee that was phreakin helpful thanks for nothing. I loooked there and already found nothing but kde screenshots.
Re: [newbie] any screenshots of grub?
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, you wrote: Sorry for the dumb question, I am just wondering what grub looks like and if there is a screenshot I can lookat. I'm afraid to try it, I don't have an experimental machine. Thanks No screenshot I'm afraid but think of the Mandrake 6.1 installation to give you the nearest idea of the type of 'graphics' used. Andrew
