Re: [newbie] USB 2

2005-04-11 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Monday 11 April 2005 11:10 am, Pablo Ortuzar wrote:
 Hello,

 I'd like to know if I can connect an iPod to my computer. iPod uses USB2:
 how can  I know which USB is  the one I have? Hardware identification gives
 this for USB controllers:

 Identification
 Vendor: VIA Technologies
 Description: VT82C586B USB
 Media class: SERIAL_USB
 Connection
 Bus: PCI
 Bus PCI #: 0
 PCI device #: 7
 PCI function #: 2
 Vendor ID: 4358
 Device ID: 12344
 Sub vendor ID: 2341
 Sub device ID: 4660
 Misc
 Module: usb-uhci

 And this for USB ports:

 Identification
 Vendor: Linux 2.6.8.1-12mdk uhci_hcd
 Description: UHCI Host Controller
 Media class: Hub
 Connection
 Bus: USB
 Bus PCI #: 2 (*and 1 on the other*)
 PCI device #: 1
 Vendor ID: 0
 Device ID: 0
 Misc
 Module: hub

 Any help greatly appreciated.
Don't have an Ipod (think they're kinda silly) but there is this
http://ipodlinuxinstl.sourceforge.net/index.shtml


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Re: [newbie] comparing mandrake based linux distributions

2005-04-08 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 08 April 2005 03:53 pm, Philippe Landau wrote:
 hello

 i like PCLinux, i like Sam, i like PLF (not a distro)
 but i have very little experience with them.
 and most of all, i like the Mandrake mailinglists:
 there are warm-hearted people here,
 which is rare on technical mailinglists.
 Ubuntu for example advertises humanity onto others
 while encouraging a gang mentality on their mailing lists.
 dissent and open discourse is not welcome there.
 the PCLinux lists suffer from a lack of warmth.
 and MandrakeSoft/Mandriva is too commercial for me.

 comparing the products though, what do you recommend ?
 i like email, web, p2p, multimedia and simple but complete.

 kind regards philippe
I have been playing with DSL linux although you will have to compile 
multimedia in xmms,grip,lame etc.
it's only a 50Mb download too :-D


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Re: [newbie] Mandriva

2005-04-07 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 07 April 2005 07:51 am, Miark wrote:

Agreed its horrible corrupted to Mandrivel too  easy Marketing wise this is a 
bad move
 On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 22:33:40 -0400, Ivo wrote:
  I think Mandriva is awful...

 Me too. But it's official now:

 http://www.mandriva.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/corporate/2551

 Miark


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Re: [newbie] weird frozen bubble problem

2005-04-07 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 07 April 2005 02:38 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
 I've just installed frozen bubble to have a play but can't actually get it
 to do anything.  Used urpmi frozen-bubble and install seemed okay, get the
 frozen bubble display up but cursor disappears when I try to hover over any
 of the buttons.  I can see it in the blue area above and use it the mouse
 to move the game display about but it disappears as soon as I move it onto
 the game area.

 What is this?

 Rosemary

 PS After the install it did say buggy audio file  or something.  This
 will be because ALSA is disabled, due to previous problems.
Start FZ hit enter to start use your arrow keys - _- to play escape to exit


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Re: [newbie] PS2 wheelmouse

2005-04-06 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Wednesday 06 April 2005 02:20 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 06:15:51 +0100

 Elwyn York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've got a MS wireless optical mouse.   It used to be plugged into the
  PS2 port then I needed the adapter for the notebook, so it's now in USB.

 Does yours burn holes in your desk?

 Lee
You must have one of those with a military grade laser in it ;-)


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Re: [newbie] [OT] usb electric shock while connecting is shutting down computer

2005-04-06 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Wednesday 06 April 2005 01:10 pm, Philippe Landau wrote:
 Miark wrote:
  Try connecting the USB cable _before_ you plug in the external
  drive's power supply.

 thanks a lot for all the expertly advice, Joe, Mikkel, Miark and jdow.
 it looks like the external case is leaking power to USB,
 because it happens even when its power switch is off,
 but so far not when i disconnect it from electricity.
 i will visit my electrician friend and see what he can measure :-)
Tell him to look for ground loops
Take a multimeter set it on voltage with the mouse unplugged measure between 
the computer and the external drive case to case if there is *ANY* voltage 
potential between the two you have an improperly wired power supply most 
likely on the external drive
Get this fixed asap it is dangerous

 kind regards philippe


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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-05 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Monday 04 April 2005 09:16 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
 On April 2, 2005 05:26, Daniel Anderson wrote:
 On Friday 01 April 2005 04:49 pm, Erylon Hines wrote:
 On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote:
 | I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4.
 |
 | Dan
 
 OMG!  I had one of those.  I think it cost- like -
 $1650, which is probably about $10,000 in today's dollars.
 
 I still have mine, still works, dabbled a little in basic with it. I put
  in the extra memory and two 720k drives. Paid $50 for it used.
 
 And the first 386/25.  I still have that laying around somewhere, or at
 least pieces of it--4 MEGS of RAM-whoo hoo--that was one hell of a
 machine. I actually ran Linux on it, for a while, kernel 1.x something,
 maybe 1.2, I can't remember exactly.  Yup, them were the good ole days.
 
 I've got you all beat. I started on a Cosmac Elf with 256 bytes of static
  ram, a hex keypad and 2-digit 7-segment display! An RCA-1802, the best 8
  bit cpu ever built. Composite tv output (40x25), and audio tape storage
  were also available. My brothers and I soldered the components onto the
  motherboard ourselves.
 
 And I walked to work bare feet in the snow, 5 miles, up hill both ways
  8^).

 Do you really want to start comparing who has the oldest hardware
 sitting around? I think there is a lady on this list that has us all
 beat. (Especial after I junked the model 33 teletype last year.)
An ASR 33? I would have killed to get one of those back in the old days :-D

 Mikkel


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Re: [newbie] Opportunity to plug OOo at interview

2005-04-05 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 09:49 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Tuesday 05 April 2005 18:10, JR wrote:
  I have an interview coming up in a few weeks. One of the minor
  requirements would be skills with MS word and excel. I was thinking of
  using this as an opportunity to say but I've also started to use OOo
  more often because I find I am more productive and it does x y z.
 
  Can anyone give me a few differences / similarities they might be
  interested in? I'm not going to get into open source to them at the
  interview. But if I can quickly mention a few tangible clenchers, I will.
  The jobs not that good anyway :)
 
  Regards,
 
  Jarlath

 Well for one: it can open OOo files;) And almost any other format you throw
 at it.

 2.Vector graphics are handled better albeit rudimentary

 3.comparing documents through edit, compare documents is cool...don't
 know if Word has that or  the people I asked just don't know.

 4.Its free as in beer, as well! ;)
It's better at opening *some* Word files than Word is


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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-05 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 11:04 am, jdow wrote:
 From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  On Monday 04 April 2005 09:16 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
   Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
   On April 2, 2005 05:26, Daniel Anderson wrote:
   On Friday 01 April 2005 04:49 pm, Erylon Hines wrote:
   On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote:
   | I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4.
   |
   | Dan
   
   OMG!  I had one of those.  I think it cost- like -
   $1650, which is probably about $10,000 in today's dollars.
   
   I still have mine, still works, dabbled a little in basic with it. I

 put

in the extra memory and two 720k drives. Paid $50 for it used.
   
   And the first 386/25.  I still have that laying around somewhere, or

 at

   least pieces of it--4 MEGS of RAM-whoo hoo--that was one hell of a
   machine. I actually ran Linux on it, for a while, kernel 1.x

 something,

   maybe 1.2, I can't remember exactly.  Yup, them were the good ole

 days.

   I've got you all beat. I started on a Cosmac Elf with 256 bytes of

 static

ram, a hex keypad and 2-digit 7-segment display! An RCA-1802, the
best

 8

bit cpu ever built. Composite tv output (40x25), and audio tape

 storage

were also available. My brothers and I soldered the components onto

 the

motherboard ourselves.
   
   And I walked to work bare feet in the snow, 5 miles, up hill both ways
8^).
  
   Do you really want to start comparing who has the oldest hardware
   sitting around? I think there is a lady on this list that has us all
   beat. (Especial after I junked the model 33 teletype last year.)
 
  An ASR 33? I would have killed to get one of those back in the old days
 
 :-D

 Not worth it. Traditionally the earliest amateur computers were built
 out of Strowger relays and pinball machine parts. As for earliest micro-
 computer I have a friend who still has his 4004 based computer. (And for
 what it is worth perhaps the earliest micro-computer multitasking OS
 went into the OM-55 satcom modem for the Navy. It was built by Magnavox
 in Torrance back when 8080s were about $100-$150 a piece. On the other
 paw there may be something even older than that. But COSMAC ELF is a piker.
 Trust me on that one. Even my Processor Technology Sol PC is relatively
 new on the block compared to the first toys out there. (6502 based
 thingies need not apply. And I think the Sol PC design predated the
 COSMAC and F8 chips, too.)

 (I passed up acquiring a mostly built Altair when its owner died of
 pancreatic cancer. I was playing with bigger iron, some nice Hewlett
 Packard 8500 consoles based on their 2100S mini-computer. I built
 myself a nice interactive circuit analysis program. That was before
 They discovered I could commit software as well as design fancy
 Radio Frequency electronics. All of which is mooted by the couple
 people I know who built pinball machine and Strowger relay based
 things.)

 {^_-}   Joanne
I would love to look at your jnk box you have had some machines that I used to 
drool over in the pages of Computer Shopper (back when it was a freebie)


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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-04 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Monday 04 April 2005 04:47 pm, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
 On April 2, 2005 05:26, Daniel Anderson wrote:
  On Friday 01 April 2005 04:49 pm, Erylon Hines wrote:
   On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote:
   | I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4.
   |
   | Dan
  
   OMG!  I had one of those.  I think it cost- like -
   $1650, which is probably about $10,000 in today's dollars.
 
  I still have mine, still works, dabbled a little in basic with it. I put
  in the extra memory and two 720k drives. Paid $50 for it used.
 
   And the first 386/25.  I still have that laying around somewhere, or at
   least pieces of it--4 MEGS of RAM-whoo hoo--that was one hell of a
   machine. I actually ran Linux on it, for a while, kernel 1.x something,
   maybe 1.2, I can't remember exactly.  Yup, them were the good ole days.

 I've got you all beat. I started on a Cosmac Elf with 256 bytes of static
 ram, a hex keypad and 2-digit 7-segment display! An RCA-1802, the best 8
 bit cpu ever built. Composite tv output (40x25), and audio tape storage
 were also available. My brothers and I soldered the components onto the
 motherboard ourselves.

 And I walked to work bare feet in the snow, 5 miles, up hill both ways 8^).
But I had to run 10 miles uphill both ways 'cause that bear was chasing me :-D
(first liar hasn't got a chance) ;-)


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Re: [newbie] Looking for some site for free web-publishing

2005-04-03 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sunday 03 April 2005 08:16 am, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All

 Is there some site for free web-publishing?

 Thanks in advance,
If you mean blogging
http://www.blogger.com/start

 Paul


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Re: [newbie] Looking for some site for free web-publishing

2005-04-03 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sunday 03 April 2005 08:37 am, Paul Smith wrote:
 On Apr 3, 2005 4:28 PM, Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Is there some site for free web-publishing?
 
  If you mean blogging
  http://www.blogger.com/start

 Sorry, I was not clear enough. I wanted to mean a free site for
 storing my own web-page.
Oh you mean hosting there are lots of them
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=free+website+hostingbtnG=Google+Search

 Paul


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Re: [newbie] Looking for some site for free web-publishing

2005-04-03 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sunday 03 April 2005 09:52 am, Paul Smith wrote:
 On Apr 3, 2005 4:44 PM, Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there some site for free web-publishing?
   
If you mean blogging
http://www.blogger.com/start
  
   Sorry, I was not clear enough. I wanted to mean a free site for
   storing my own web-page.
 
  Oh you mean hosting there are lots of them
  http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=free+website+hostingbtnG=Google+Sea
 rch

 Thanks, Aron. With so many choices, is there some recommendations?
Get the highest traffic allotment you can you could (if you have DSL static 
selfhost it through your ISP)

 Paul


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.2

2005-04-03 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sunday 03 April 2005 01:35 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:42:36 +0100

 Elwyn York disseminated the following:
  80 gig of mp3s

 ??!!

 I sense 'eclectic' musical tastes...
80 Gig ?? Me thinks dedicated music server
BTW joe seeing as you are a minimalist have you tried DSL linux only 50 Meg on 
the live CD 


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.2

2005-04-03 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sunday 03 April 2005 05:30 pm, Elwyn York wrote:
 On Monday 04 Apr 2005 00:49, Aron Smith wrote:
  On Sunday 03 April 2005 01:35 pm, JoeHill wrote:
   On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:42:36 +0100
  
   Elwyn York disseminated the following:
80 gig of mp3s
  
   ??!!
  
   I sense 'eclectic' musical tastes...
 
  80 Gig ?? Me thinks dedicated music server
  BTW joe seeing as you are a minimalist have you tried DSL linux only 50
  Meg on the live CD

 Now that, sir, is a good idea. I just need to get the hardware together.  I
 had planned to utilise the Smeserver I am running but that might be a bit
 much for it.  333mhz processor, 20gb Hdd, 128mb Ram. No monitor, keyboard
 attached. Only a power cord and network cable.
I'm setting up a mini-itx eden m6000 (600Mhz) fanless boots off a CF card 
(256Mb) 20G notebook drive 
adding Streamtuner streamripper and xmms-diskwriter
and audacity it's already got rox dillo and firefox on it


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.2

2005-04-03 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sunday 03 April 2005 06:39 pm, Elwyn York wrote:
 On Monday 04 Apr 2005 02:34, Aron Smith wrote:
  I'm setting up a mini-itx eden m6000 (600Mhz) fanless boots off a CF card
  (256Mb) 20G notebook drive
  adding Streamtuner streamripper and xmms-diskwriter
  and audacity it's already got rox dillo and firefox on it

 Ooh, I wondered who was getting that little lot from Ebay :) I was sorely
 tempted until I had my bank statement turn up :(  Perhaps in a year I can
 get some new ITX's :)
bought mine at fry's but checkout
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/motherboards
lots ..well some neat stuff there


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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-02 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Saturday 02 April 2005 04:22 am, Daniel Anderson wrote:
 On Friday 01 April 2005 03:57 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
  On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote:
   On Friday 01 April 2005 09:41 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Friday 01 April 2005 11:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my
 computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks !
 And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows
 XP, which I have never used.
 Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well !
   
Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even
better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days!
   
carefully looking at todays date before replying
   
  :-)
  
   I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4.
 
  With the original 4k ram ...none of that sissy 16k expansion stuff ;-)

 Or the 720k drives.
Nope a real man used the cassette tape drive.

   Dan


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Re: [newbie] Failed Install

2005-04-02 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 01 April 2005 08:37 pm, Miark wrote:
 On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:05:34 -0800, Aron wrote:
  Ok I tried Mdk 10.2RC2 mini no joy
  then I tried 10.1 community no joy (used for a previous
  install) then I tried the 2 CD set from linux Journal no joy
  the message is the same in all cases
  --
  failed to load `/mnt/tmp/drakX-images/01.png
 
  : fatal error in png image file iDAT :CRC error

 Did you check the md5sums after you downloaded the images?
Yes ,they are fine

 Miark


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Re: [newbie] Failed Install

2005-04-02 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 01 April 2005 08:06 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Friday 01 April 2005 09:05 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
  Ok I tried Mdk 10.2RC2 mini no joy
  then I tried 10.1 community no joy (used for a previous install)
  then I tried the 2 CD set from linux Journal no joy
  the message is the same in all cases
  --
  failed to load `/mnt/tmp/drakX-images/01.png
 
  : fatal error in png image file iDAT :CRC error

 I lost track of this thread, Aron did you try booting 10.2 from the second
 CD?
This was all 10.1 as I have not been able to burn 10.2 successfully
due to the size of the iso (699.8 Mb ) cannot be put on  a 700 Mb disk


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Re: [newbie] Failed Install

2005-04-02 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Saturday 02 April 2005 06:54 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Saturday 02 April 2005 08:06 am, Aron Smith wrote:
  On Friday 01 April 2005 08:06 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
   On Friday 01 April 2005 09:05 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
Ok I tried Mdk 10.2RC2 mini no joy
then I tried 10.1 community no joy (used for a previous install)
then I tried the 2 CD set from linux Journal no joy
the message is the same in all cases
--
failed to load `/mnt/tmp/drakX-images/01.png
   
: fatal error in png image file iDAT :CRC error
  
   I lost track of this thread, Aron did you try booting 10.2 from the
   second CD?
 
  This was all 10.1 as I have not been able to burn 10.2 successfully
  due to the size of the iso (699.8 Mb ) cannot be put on  a 700 Mb disk

 Ah, ok, let me ask :  how old is your burner? Seems like some of the older
 burners had trouble when going past 650mb cause that is what the old CDs
 were limited to. Or was this one of my weird dreams, must remember
 medications.
It's an el cheapo grneraic CD/RW- DVD 16X drive
Seriously this is going to be a problem with a lot of hardware
prehaps they should have 4 CDs in the set rather than two.


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Re: [newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO

2005-04-02 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Saturday 02 April 2005 01:48 pm, Tom wrote:
 Aron Smith wrote:
  On Saturday 02 April 2005 09:35 am, Tom wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrakelinux-10.2rc2]$
 
  What Mandrake version are you currently usin?  = 10.0, 10.1,
 an now 10.2 all use different daemons an methods for removable
 media. With 10.2 you'll need to burn as root to avoid serious risk
 of buffer underruns.
 
 Do you get output when you just type
 'cdrecord -help' ?  (cdrecord is installed, right?)
 Does your drive show up when you type,
 'll /dev/hd*'  ?   Does,
 
 $ ll /dev/sg*
 crw-rw  1 tom cdwriter 21, 0 Apr  2 08:51 /dev/sg0
 crw-rw  1 tom cdwriter 21, 1 Apr  2 08:51 /dev/sg1
 
  =
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] aron]$ ll /dev/hd*
  brw-rw  1 root disk  3,  0 Apr  1 18:46 /dev/hda
  brw-rw  1 root disk  3,  1 Apr  1 18:46 /dev/hda1
  brw-rw  1 root disk  3,  2 Apr  1 18:46 /dev/hda2
  brw-rw  1 root disk  3,  5 Apr  1 18:46 /dev/hda5
  brw-rw  1 root disk  3,  6 Apr  1 18:46 /dev/hda6
  brw-rw  1 root disk  3,  7 Apr  1 18:46 /dev/hda7
  brw-rw  1 root disk  3,  8 Apr  1 18:46 /dev/hda8
  brw-rw  1 aron cdrom 3, 64 Apr  1 18:46 /dev/hdb
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] aron]$
  ==

  Alright, then with 10.1  (this first part would also be the
 same for 10.2)

 'cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus'   will show you the scsibus numbers,
 EG, somethin like 0,0,0   (which should be better than usin /dev/hdb)

 cd to the directory the isos are in and

 cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=ATA:0,0,0 -dao MandTab

Now I've simplified that quite a bit, actually about bare
 minimum. You should be able to handle speed=4, use your numbers
 rather than the example 0,0,0   -dao is a must for .iso's  Specially
 needed so the md5sum of the burned CD will check.

 With the burned CD in the drive, 'md5sum /dev/hdb' should return
 (might take a minute or so) the same md5sum as the iso file has.
 With marginal CD drives, you may need to try it several times before
 it succeeds.

 ...show your user name as a member of the cdwriter group?
 
  No problem burning other CDs both audio and data
  am currently using Mdk 10.1

Includin 700mb's ?  If you can burn 650's, but not 700 you
 really need a better burner.  Mandrake gave into the 650 crowd a few
 versions ago, but has since determined it's just not worth the
 inconvenience  to the vast majority with decent burners.  If you
 can't use 700's, get a new burner. Sometimes somone redoes the iso's
 to  650 an makes them available for FTP. I think the Mdk Club use
 to also do it.  But don't hold your breath ;)

  I believe if you can run 'cdrecord dev=ATA:0,0,0 -atip' with a
 blank 700mb CDr in the drive, and it returns succesfully, info about
 cdrecord, your drive and the manufacturer of the blank Cdr... then
 you should be able to burn up to 703mb.  I don't really know tho,
 even my (1997) 8432 Plextor could burn the cheapest 700's

  Your other option would be to d/l, IIRC, 'boot.iso' from a
 mirror, 'dd' it to a floppy and do an install from the iso's on your
 HDD.  You'll need somebody or a tutorial that's knows more about
 that than me. I haven't done it in ages, an some changes have been
 made in the process for 10.2.  You might be able to find out from
 the cooker ML archive or  http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/wiki  At a
 minimum you should read the 10.2 Release Notes.

   When/if you get 10.2 installed (an I'd recommend a fresh
 install saving your /home)  magicdev will no longer be there,
 supermount is used only for floppy's. gnome-volume-manager in
 conjunction with HAL and dbus is the entirely user space daemon for
 handling removable media, like CD drives. As such it can't access
 certain things reserved to root.  IE, as user:

 cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler
 cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using
 setpriority().
 cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.

  The only work around is to burn as root, even with a GUI.
 You'll probly also need to run 'gnome-volume-properties' once as
 root and under the heading Removable Media, enable the first 3 (of
 the 4) options (if they aren't already).
The error is definitely in the package that png file has a crc error
btw thanks now at least I know how to burn without the GUI


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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 01 April 2005 06:41 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Friday 01 April 2005 11:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
  I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I
  can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks !
  And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP,
  which I have never used.
  Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well !

 Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even
 better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days!

 carefully looking at todays date before replying
Guess I'll just have to drag out the old KIM-1 
Yes those were the days 1Mhz and 4k of static RAM

   :-)


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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 01 April 2005 06:59 am, Anders Lind wrote:
  What exactly do you mean by troll ?

 A person that just post an inflammatory email with the only
 reason to start a fight
Hell if he want's to fight send him to the OT list :-)

 /anders


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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 01 April 2005 11:20 am, JoeHill wrote:
 On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 07:33:01 -0800

 Aron Smith disseminated the following:
  Hell if he want's to fight send him to the OT list :-)

 If your definition of 'fight' is a bunch of blindfolded monkeys throwing
 excrement in all directions...
O diums get spanked ;-)


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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 01 April 2005 12:40 pm, Daniel Anderson wrote:
 On Friday 01 April 2005 09:41 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  On Friday 01 April 2005 11:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
   I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer...
   I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks !
   And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP,
   which I have never used.
   Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well !
 
  Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even
  better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days!
 
  carefully looking at todays date before replying
 
:-)

 I'm going back to my TRS80 model 4.
With the original 4k ram ...none of that sissy 16k expansion stuff ;-)

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[newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO

2005-04-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
I have created a lot of coasters under k3b trying to burn 10.2 I noticed that 
the first disk is 699.8 Mb while the capicity is 700Mb  The md5sums check
is it because the CD-R is too small ?


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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 01 April 2005 01:44 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:20:50 -0600

 Tom disseminated the following:
  Eric Raymond a seat on the Microsoft Board of Directors

 ROFL! Now *that* I'd like to see...an ill-tempered and well-armed anarchist
 in a room full of pissant corporate bureaucrats (soon to be a room *empty*
 of said pissants, 'least any live ones).
This should be fun to follow OTH remember Abbie Hoffman wound up as a Wall 
Street Stockbroker


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Re: [newbie] Burning 10.2 ISO

2005-04-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 01 April 2005 03:06 pm, Tom wrote:
 Aron Smith wrote:
  I have created a lot of coasters under k3b trying to burn 10.2 I noticed
  that the first disk is 699.8 Mb while the capicity is 700Mb  The md5sums
  check is it because the CD-R is too small ?

 No.  Cdr's are good for =703 mb.  If you're already usin 10.2,
 CD's can't be reliably burned as anything but root due to kernel
 changes.  If not then, as user;

 'cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=16 dev=ATA:1,1,0 -dao
   name of iso'

 Adjust speed= an dev= to suit your burner

OTOH, Warly is already testin the final 2005LE (10.2) iso's.
 Should be available shortly  EPA, 2005, April 6.

RC2, updated with cooker mirrors is the same thing, available now.
Tryed that (cutnPaste)
got
cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open 
'Mandrakelinux-10.2-CD-1.i586.iso'.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrakelinux-10.2rc2]$


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Re: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 01 April 2005 07:05 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 16:06 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Friday 01 Apr 2005 15:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   But strangely, if you look at his website he has taken the trouble to
   include linux links and he has written about it at some length,
   although I'm afraid I don't read his language.
 
  Look for him in the archives, then look at the date.
 
  Anne

 I couldn't resist the temptation to send my annual joke...
Still last year the thread got wilder :-D


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[newbie] Failed Install

2005-04-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
Ok I tried Mdk 10.2RC2 mini no joy
then I tried 10.1 community no joy (used for a previous install)
then I tried the 2 CD set from linux Journal no joy 
the message is the same in all cases
--
failed to load `/mnt/tmp/drakX-images/01.png
: fatal error in png image file iDAT :CRC error


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Re: [newbie] Looking for Azureus 2.2.0.2_MOD for Linux

2005-03-31 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 31 March 2005 11:23 am, Paul Smith wrote:
 Azureus
http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/search.php?query=Azureus


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Re: [newbie] can't find /udev/hdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab

2005-03-29 Per discussione aron smith
On Tuesday 29 March 2005 09:04 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 SnapafunFrank wrote:
  I added udev by urpmi sometime after my initial clean installation
  because I was after flexibility for my flash drives. I actually followed
  a Flash USB howto that appeared to work in that particular session but
  afterward it just got to be confused so I resolved to sort it out for
  myself. ( I also installed sysfs and a couple of other requirements at
  the time.)
 
  I'm running Mandrake10 Official ~ KDE-3.2.3 ~ Kernel-2.6.3-7 and have
  stuck with it because I needed to install the OpenGL + nvidia drivers
  for a little 3D experience.
 
  Your reply makes sense and I will look to that shortly, but for now,
  though I can mount data cds and dvds, ( manually ) as user OK , and
  read/write the contents, ~ but I am unable to get my audio cd's playing
  anymore nor does it appear that supermount is actually working, ( I say
  'appear' because things might be going on in the background that I'm not
  privy to yet.)

 How are you trying to play audio CDs?

  At one time after I had installed udev I used to place a blank dvd in my
  writer and k3b would fire up automatically ~ not at present however.
Try an audio CD lens cleaner disk sometimes works for me
also check if your cd is mounted before you start if so un mount it
also I have found that a lot of the cheaper cds some in a pack can be good 
some bad

 I believe this is handled by magicdev, but I could be wrong.

  I have been following your efforts here and gone the way of symlinks in
  my .rules file and created links to replace things like /mnt/cdrom2 in
  case my system needs to look for that instead of /mnt/dvd-cd when
  relating to /udev/hdd or /dev/hdd ( one and same device of course which
  troubles me a wee bit ~ same device listed twice ~ don't understand this
  part yet. ie. Why is the /dev directory still about when I have
  uninstalled devfsd and issued  devfs=nomount  within lilo? As yet '
  the penny ain't dropped ' on this one.)

 The /dev directory will stay unless you delete it. (I don't recomend
 that!). The /dev directory entries should still work. They are used
 during boot, before udev is started, and the udev file system is
 mounted. With Mandrake 10.1, the udev file system is mounted on top of
 /dev. This has the affect of hiding the old entries, while still leting
 commands that expect to find the device nodes in /dev still work.

  So a question to get me started here ~ how can I check that supermount
  is working ? eg. is there some way to log it's efforts so as to get some
  clues for troubleshooting ? )

 ps ax | grep supermount
 mount | grep supermount

 The first should show you if supermount is running, and the second
 should show any active supermount mounts.

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[newbie] Quicktime video

2005-03-29 Per discussione Aron Smith
anyone know of an RPM to let you play quicktime video ?


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Re: [newbie] cd into file

2005-03-27 Per discussione aron smith
On Sunday 27 March 2005 12:42 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
 I am feeling particularly stupid and frustrated just now.  I downloaded
 some files in preparation for installing gwenview.  I saved them to
 /home/rosemary/Linux Stuff/rpms - now I can't cd into it, tells me no
 such file or directory.  Thought I would rename it, but same problem.  I
 don't want to have to do the downloads again.  I've not had this problem
 before.  I can see the rpms in konqueror and that is the path it gives.
 It seems simple but I am stumped.  Wondered if it doesn't like the Linux
 Stuff name?

 Rosemary
just a thought try renaming from  /home/rosemary/Linux Stuff/rpms 
to
/home/rosemary/Linux_Stuff/rpms 
sometimes linux/unix takes exception to spaces in filenames


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Re: [newbie] cd into file

2005-03-27 Per discussione aron smith
On Sunday 27 March 2005 01:50 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
 Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Sunday 27 March 2005 03:57 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 Did you create that Linux Stuff directory in Konqueror ?
 If so, the command shell probably won't see it.  The shell doesn't
 like spaces in file names.
 
 You could try to rename that directory to i.e. Linux_Stuff or some
 such.
 
 HTH
 
 Kaj Haulrich.
 
 Guess I've been lucky but I've never had trouble with filenames with
  spaces under Linux.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Went back and had another try using Bill's suggestion of tabbing.  This
 worked.  But I now have another problem, which I guess is related to the
 mess my system is in, and the reason I have not been able to boot.  Now
 when trying to urpmi the packages, when it asks for CD1, I hear the CD
 cranking up, but it just dies out when I press enter.

 Now I know why people talk about wrestling with linux :-)
If you have a high speed connection you can go to
http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
to set up your urpmi sources
do a urpmi.removemedia -a
select your system base contrib updates and plf free and plf nonfree
also jpackage
follow the instructions  then cut and paste into a root window


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[newbie] Kmail will not run

2005-03-26 Per discussione Aron Smith
system acting weird again
kmail comes up then terminates with fatal error
 so i started it in a terminal got this message
[EMAIL PROTECTED] aron]$
kmail
QObject::connect: No such signal KMHeaders::itemAdded(QListViewItem*)
QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'headers')
QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'headers quick search line')
QObject::disconnect: No such signal KMHeaders::itemAdded(QListViewItem*)
kdecore (KAccel): WARNING: KKeySequence::init( seq ): key[0] is null.
kdecore (KAccel): WARNING: KKeySequence::init( seq ): key[0] is null.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] aron]$ QGDict::hashKeyString: Invalid null key
kmail: WARNING: KMail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now
kmail: ERROR: The resource '_home_aron_.kde_share_apps_kabc_std.vcf' is
locked by application ''.
kmail: ERROR: Unable to save to resource 'resource-name'. It is locked.




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Re: [newbie] Kmail will not run

2005-03-26 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Saturday 26 March 2005 04:44 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:56:59 -0800

 Aron Smith disseminated the following:
  system acting weird again

 No, KDE is acting normally. Fer fsck's sake, man, yer a rebel, a 'don't
 take no shit' Southern man (I think), start acting like one and use a
 different freakin' WM!

 Sheesh. Have you ever, even *once*, seen someone with complaints like this
 'KMail won't open, Konsole won't open (why the *fsck* does one need KDEinit
 to open a terminal??!!), KWhatever is locking up...' who uses something
 other than KDE and its conglomeration of bloated 'user friendly' apps? No.
 It don't happen. You are wasting resources, time, and missing out on a
 whole lot more fun with all the alternatives out there.

 Anyhow, that's my anti-KDE rant for the month. Thank you all for coming.
Well Joe I tried but my box pays absolutely no attention when I threaten it 
with a .45...   :(


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Re: [newbie] Kmail will not run

2005-03-26 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Saturday 26 March 2005 03:56 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
 system acting weird again
 kmail comes up then terminates with fatal error
  so i started it in a terminal got this message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] aron]$
 kmail
 QObject::connect: No such signal KMHeaders::itemAdded(QListViewItem*)
 QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'headers')
 QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'headers quick search line')
 QObject::disconnect: No such signal KMHeaders::itemAdded(QListViewItem*)
 kdecore (KAccel): WARNING: KKeySequence::init( seq ): key[0] is null.
 kdecore (KAccel): WARNING: KKeySequence::init( seq ): key[0] is null.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] aron]$ QGDict::hashKeyString: Invalid null key
 kmail: WARNING: KMail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now
 kmail: ERROR: The resource '_home_aron_.kde_share_apps_kabc_std.vcf' is
 locked by application ''.
 kmail: ERROR: Unable to save to resource 'resource-name'. It is locked.
Found the problem no disk space left deleted  10,000 old e mails and it works 
again...till the next time


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Re: [newbie] Learning Mandrake in the UK

2005-03-25 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 25 March 2005 05:19 am, DAN WALKER wrote:
 there is one where I am - milton keynes. would it be
 full of bearded men who drive austin allegros? a bit
 scared of going.
Buy a geek a pizza and a beer ,tell them that you are learning about linux 
and..you will have to shoot them to shut them up
if it is a pretty girl doing the asking shooting them won't work

 --- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Friday 25 Mar 2005 08:13, DAN WALKER wrote:
   Thats what I currently do. My work will pay for a
 
  course, but as we are a
 
   school, the budget could be spent on better things
 
  like getting a real pet
 
   hamster instead of the stuffed glove with sequins
 
  as eyes.
 
  Where are you, Dan?  The suggestion of finding a LUG
  was a good one.  Also,
  the LUG is likely to be aware of training in your
  area.
 
  Anne
  --
  Registered Linux User No.293302
  (http://counter.li.org/)
  Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet?
  Mandrake at all levels

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Re: [newbie] Learning Mandrake in the UK

2005-03-25 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 25 March 2005 08:32 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 25 Mar 2005 16:11, Aron Smith wrote:
  On Friday 25 March 2005 05:19 am, DAN WALKER wrote:
   there is one where I am - milton keynes. would it be
   full of bearded men who drive austin allegros? a bit
   scared of going.
 
  Buy a geek a pizza and a beer ,tell them that you are learning about
  linux and..you will have to shoot them to shut them up
  if it is a pretty girl doing the asking shooting them won't work

 LOL - too true!  Though the girl may prefer chocolate or icecream to pizza.
I never meet any geekettes untill  I started hanging around this list :-D

 Anne


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Re: [newbie] package manager for 10.1

2005-03-25 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 25 March 2005 12:42 am, Bill Winegarden wrote:
 Hi,
 Can anyone recommend a package manager for 10.1 that allows me to look
 inside the rpm file to view folders and files. I liked kpackage in the
 older versions but I can't find it's equivalent.
QUERYING AND VERIFYING PACKAGES:
   rpm {-q|--query} [select-options] [query-options]



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Re: [newbie] Program to save a selected part of a picture

2005-03-25 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 25 March 2005 12:09 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All

 I am looking for a (simple) program to save a selected part of a
 picture. Any suggestions?

 Thanks in advance,
Gimp or quick and dirty ksnapshot

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Re: [newbie] Program to save a selected part of a picture

2005-03-25 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 25 March 2005 02:19 pm, Paul Smith wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:59:14 -0800, Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
   I am looking for a (simple) program to save a selected part of a
   picture. Any suggestions?
 
  Gimp or quick and dirty ksnapshot

 Thanks, Aron.

 Paul
Gimp has a big learning curve(like a vertical cliff) but you can do fantastic 
things with it


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Re: [newbie] Firefox not playing nice with slashdot

2005-03-25 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 25 March 2005 03:38 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
 On Friday 25 March 2005 01:27 am, Aron Smith wrote:
  On Thursday 24 March 2005 09:40 pm, Paul wrote:
   Op Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:35:23 -0800 schreef Aron Smith:
   Firefox will not open a link on slashdot
   has anyone else had this problem
   other sites seem to be ok
  
   Running 1.0.0. and I have no problems with it.  ??

 ditto.  running 10.0 and no problems on slashdot either.
Which leads me to believe that there is something  wrong with my system
but not much as Konk does not have the same problem


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Re: [newbie] extracting CD audio files

2005-03-25 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 25 March 2005 04:51 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote:
 Can anyone recommend a program for copying individual tracks from an audio
 cd to a hard drive?  What about file format for storing the files in?  What
 about converting between audio file formats?

 TIA
 Paul
Grip or ripper-x for ripping the CD Audacity for editing the file (you will 
also need Lame for mp3 encoding)
all available via urpmi


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Re: [newbie] MP3 player half capacity

2005-03-24 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 24 March 2005 06:23 am, Christophe wrote:
 Hello,
 I have a small mp3 player with 254 mb storage. But I can only use half
 of it 124 mb. I checked for hydden files or so but with no success. I
 tried to format the device but also no changes.
 Did some one have the same problem?
 Thanks
 Christophe
I have had this problem 
A lot of the DRMed  players wind upkeeping a copy of whatever you put into 
them in the base memory strangely the MMC cards can be used to full capacity


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Re: [newbie] MP3 player half capacity

2005-03-24 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 24 March 2005 07:39 am, Christophe wrote:
 Aron Smith wrote:
 On Thursday 24 March 2005 06:23 am, Christophe wrote:
 Hello,
 I have a small mp3 player with 254 mb storage. But I can only use half
 of it 124 mb. I checked for hydden files or so but with no success. I
 tried to format the device but also no changes.
 Did some one have the same problem?
 Thanks
 Christophe
 
 I have had this problem
 A lot of the DRMed  players wind upkeeping a copy of whatever you put into
 them in the base memory strangely the MMC cards can be used to full
  capacity

 Sorry but I don't understand what you try to tell me.
 Thanks
 Christophe
The last two players that I had  had a hidden directory on them where the 
Win$ux Digital Rights Managment software was located this keeps a list of 
what you download to it when you remove the song the W$ software deletes it
is your player on this list?
http://tuxmobil.org/player_linux_survey_creative.html


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Re: [newbie] Learning Mandrake in the UK

2005-03-24 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 24 March 2005 04:07 pm, DAN WALKER wrote:
 Are there any good reasonable priced courses, books or
 similar in the UK that I may attend? I want to learn
 how to run this thing. I am using it as a web server.
 I want to know all about setting the security up,
 making my machine hard to hack etc. It is connected to
 a 34Mbit connection to the net so someone would love
 to abuse it.

 Thanks
 Dan
Do you have rute
urpmi rute
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[newbie] Firefox not playing nice with slashdot

2005-03-24 Per discussione Aron Smith
Firefox will not open a link on slashdot
has anyone else had this problem
other sites seem to be ok


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Re: [newbie] Firefox not playing nice with slashdot

2005-03-24 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 24 March 2005 09:40 pm, Paul wrote:
 Op Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:35:23 -0800 schreef Aron Smith:
 Firefox will not open a link on slashdot
 has anyone else had this problem
 other sites seem to be ok

 Running 1.0.0. and I have no problems with it.  ??
That's what I'm running ..strange

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Re: [newbie] Games recommendation

2005-03-23 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 08:54 am, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 02:11, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
  On Tuesday 22 March 2005 22:59, JR wrote:
   On Monday 21 March 2005 10:08 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
Hi folks,
  
   snip
  
Do you have any recommendation on games that can relieve our stress
level? Thanks :)
  
   I love airstrike. Their still working on it but the version released at
   the moment is playable against another player or the computer. It's
   based on 'bip' (bi-plane).
 
  Try enigma if you like puzzles.and of course sirtet if you like
  tetris.

 Thank you all for all the suggestions. I have fun playing all these new
 games. I especially like alienbuster, however the game ends after killing
 two bosses :( So short. Also airstrike, a bit difficult, but quite fun. I
 still have several games to try, alienpool, amphetamine, alephone (notice
 the alphabet 'a'?) Hehe..  So many games to dig out and try.
personally I wish someone would port Redneck Rampage to linux
It's stupid 
it's violent
it's funny
hit bubba with a crowbar to advance to the next level :-D


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Re: [newbie] Linux riskier than Windows study says

2005-03-23 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 07:28 pm, Elwyn wrote:
 On Thursday 24 Mar 2005 03:03, Chris wrote:
  Ahh, another study funded by MS thats only purpose seems to be to cause
  FUD.
 
  Linux riskier than Windows?
 
  Companies face greater risks if they run their Web
  sites on Linux rather than Windows, a Microsoft-funded
  study has concluded.
  http://ct.zdnet.com.com/clicks?c=90480-571387brand=zdnetds=5

 Well they would say that wouldn't they? After all, it is the competition.
 They could say that about Macs but no doubt Apple would turn it around and
 use it to sell more things including an aadd like that...
I can just see the ad bill gates and steve balmer dressed like clowns dissing 
linux. (all channel 24X7 for 3 months.cost them  oh..probably the petty 
cash 

 Elwyn


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Re: [newbie] Linux riskier than Windows study says

2005-03-23 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 08:04 pm, Chris wrote:
 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 09:40 pm, Elwyn wrote:
  On Thursday 24 Mar 2005 03:38, Aron Smith wrote:
   On Wednesday 23 March 2005 07:28 pm, Elwyn wrote:
On Thursday 24 Mar 2005 03:03, Chris wrote:
 
  And I thought I was mad to be going to work this time in the morning, but
  I am, once again, mistaken :)
 
  Elwyn

 Now that's odd, I originally wrote the msg at 21:03 on 23 March, must have
 gone through a wormhole or something to suddenly get 6hrs ahead, even my
 copy on the list shows 21:03.
interesting I have had a run of my system clock randomly switching time zones.
Not lately tho 


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[newbie] K Mail question

2005-03-23 Per discussione Aron Smith
k Mail is opening ok but when you shut it down there is a pop under that tells 
you
KDEInit could not launch kontact-kmail.sh
OK
so whats wrong?


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Re: [newbie] K Mail question

2005-03-23 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 09:01 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
 On Thursday 24 March 2005 11:35, Aron Smith wrote:
  k Mail is opening ok but when you shut it down there is a pop under that
  tells you
  KDEInit could not launch kontact-kmail.sh
  OK
  so whats wrong?

 I have this error too. Haven't succeded with google yet.
do you have kontact installed I don't


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Re: [newbie] ADSL.

2005-03-22 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 09:49 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
 On Tuesday 22 March 2005 06:39 am, Malcolm Candlish wrote:
  Dear Julie,
 
  Apologies for the Sir!
 
  I am certainly contacting your provider and thank you for your tip.

 Dear Malcolm,

 Apology not necessary and I  in turn apologize for my grumpiness.  Must
 have had a low BAC that day or something.
 Good luck with connecting to your new linux adventure.  :)
If they service your area try ispwest
http://www.ispwest.com/
Very good tech support and linux friendly too 
(also a lot cheaper than earthlink)


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Re: [newbie] Invalid signatures on upgrade files

2005-03-22 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 12:04 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi All
 
  I was upgrading my copy of Mandrake 10.1 via a download I made of the
  update directory on ftp.u-strasbg.fr and I get the following error:
 
  glibc-devel-2.3.3-23.1.101mdk.I586.rpm: invalid signature (sha1 md5
  )(GPG)(MISSING KEY) GPG# 22458a98 NOT OK
 
  I am getting a lot of these.
 
  I have a bunch of computers to update so I downloaded the entire
  directory of
  pub/linux/distributions/mandrakelinux/devel/community/I586/media/main
  including the files hdlist.cz and synthesis.hdlist.cz and the directory
  media_info.
 
  I downloaded a few of the files again just to make sure there wasn't a
  problem and they downloaded fine but the error remained.
 
  Is this something I should worry about or does this happen on some sites?
 
  Thanks for the help
 
  Robert Dill

 Exactly how did you download these files? Unless I am reading the errors
 reported wrong, you are getting wrong size, bad md5sum as well as GPG
 signiture error. That says the downloaded file is totaly messed up.
 Ether that, or you don't have read access to it.

 Mikkel
is there any way to do it via urpmi? That would avoid most of the errors.


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[newbie] CD-ROM problem

2005-03-22 Per discussione Aron Smith
my cdrom will not load a data program eg: linux distro it will however find 
and play music . has anyone ever had this happen to them?


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Re: [newbie] Games recommendation

2005-03-22 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 12:55 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
 On Tuesday 22 March 2005 21:13, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  RPG - Neverwinter Nights
 
  1st person shooters - Ut2004, Quake 3, Rune, Doom3
 
  Military - Medal of Honor: Allied Assault
 
  If you want to run Transgamings' Cedega software, you can run the likes
  of:
 
  Diablo2-Lord of Destruction, Starcraft-Brood Wars, Knights of the Old
  Republic 1 and 2 (Sith Lords), Dungeon Siege, Elder Scrolls-Morrowind,
  Star Wars Jedi Knight and Jedi Academy, Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne and
  even World of Warcraft.
 
  Of course these are commercial, and there are plenty of free games to
  play as others have mentioned. Chromium, Critical Mass, and Armagetron
  spring to mind right away.
 
  Lots of options, and many more games than I've mentioned so get out there
  and get gaming! :-)

 Aiyaa..
 Those are 'heavy and very serious games'. They have their own stress level
 to play :) I'm looking for easy games to kill times.
 Well, I've installed 2 free RPGs, but unfortunately cannot run. The games
 die :(

 I guess I'll have to browse from letter 'C' onward later. Using the mcc 
 KDE/GNOME doesnt show the games.
try gnome-games
play a lot of majhjongg as a stress buster


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[newbie] Minimal install

2005-03-22 Per discussione Aron Smith
What would the minium package needed to get Mandrake up and running so you 
could use urpmi to complete the installation? could it possibly be as small 
as i cd?


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[newbie] One Page Manual

2005-03-21 Per discussione Aron Smith
http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~squadron/
It's actually two pages 



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Re: [newbie] Useful URL for newbies

2005-03-21 Per discussione aron smith
On Monday 21 March 2005 07:34 am, Duncan Anderson wrote:
 SOTL wrote:
 I don't know about a comand to wipe a system but I do know a procedure of
  how I trash a HD. All I did was use MC to search for test and HD went
  into orbit. It is now a good paperweight on my desk. What I was searching
  for were DBs I had created call test1, test2 et. What I got was a trashed
  HD.
 
 Frank

 Frank,

 When you mention MC, what do you mean? (Midnight Commander?)

 cheers
 Duncan
MC is a cloneof midnight commander
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[newbie] audacity

2005-03-20 Per discussione Aron Smith
anyone know where libmp3lame.so is kept (lame is installed)
audacity needs it for exporting mp3s



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Re: [newbie] audacity

2005-03-20 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sun, 2005-03-20 at 09:12 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Aron Smith wrote:
  anyone know where libmp3lame.so is kept (lame is installed)
  audacity needs it for exporting mp3s
  
  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mikkel]$ locate libmp3lame.so
 /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0
 /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
Thanks
 
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Re: [newbie] audacity

2005-03-20 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sun, 2005-03-20 at 10:23 -0500, Mr. Geek wrote:
 Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Sunday 20 March 2005 09:16 am, Aron Smith wrote:
  
 anyone know where libmp3lame.so is kept (lame is installed)
 audacity needs it for exporting mp3s
  
  
  $ locate libmp3lame
  /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0
  /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
  /usr/lib/libmp3lame.la
  /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so
  /usr/lib/libmp3lame.a
 
 Oh, Sure! You can always do it the EASY way if you want to, I suppose!
 
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Didn't work for me :-(
 
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Re: [newbie] audacity

2005-03-20 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sun, 2005-03-20 at 09:57 -0500, Mr. Geek wrote:
 Aron Smith wrote:
  anyone know where libmp3lame.so is kept (lame is installed)
  audacity needs it for exporting mp3s
 
 Aron; If you need to find it quickly, use MCC's Remove Software section 
 of RPMDrake and you can use the Find box to select In File Names 
 option. Type in some of the file name you're looking for and click on 
 the search button.
 
 Any package containing your search text (ie; 'libmp3lame') will appear 
 in the list and you can see where your file is installed.
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Re: [newbie] audacity

2005-03-20 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sun, 2005-03-20 at 18:59 -0500, Aron Smith wrote:
 On Sun, 2005-03-20 at 09:57 -0500, Mr. Geek wrote:
  Aron Smith wrote:
   anyone know where libmp3lame.so is kept (lame is installed)
   audacity needs it for exporting mp3s
  
  Aron; If you need to find it quickly, use MCC's Remove Software section 
  of RPMDrake and you can use the Find box to select In File Names 
  option. Type in some of the file name you're looking for and click on 
  the search button.
  
  Any package containing your search text (ie; 'libmp3lame') will appear 
  in the list and you can see where your file is installed.
 found the problem file was in liblame instead of in lame
  
Audacity will not pick it up you have to set the audacity import field
to show all extended libs then choose manualy
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Re: [newbie] Getting a screen-shot of the current window

2005-03-19 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 19:49 +, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All
 
 Could somebody please tell me how to get a screen-shot of the current window?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
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Re: [newbie] Tux Magazine

2005-03-18 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 18 March 2005 06:02 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
  Yes - I want to understand and be able to execute things in the CLI.
   However it is going to take time for me to learn that.  Sorry if I am
   such a dumb kiwi who is only happy when has sheep backed against the
   fence.  Being a townie I have no idea what you refer to!
Q. Where do Ozzies go on vacation?
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[newbie] Strange host name

2005-03-14 Per discussione Aron Smith
When booting up I got this message
host brian.cede.psu found
Checking the etc/host.allow 
dosn't show that name 
neither does 
etc/host.deny
what's going on ?


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Re: [ml] [newbie] Strange host name

2005-03-14 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Monday 14 March 2005 02:51 pm, Dave Ashmore wrote:
 Aron Smith wrote:
 When booting up I got this message
 host brian.cede.psu found
 Checking the etc/host.allow
 dosn't show that name
 neither does
 etc/host.deny
 what's going on ?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Maybe you have ntp installed and that is a time server?
now that you mention it there is mention of ntp on the start up screen
BTW any way to read them after startup?


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Re: [newbie] Syslogd

2005-03-12 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Saturday 12 March 2005 01:12 am, Mr. Geek wrote:
 Once again, I'm back with a seemingly odd situation. Running my server
 on Mandrake 10.1.

 Syslogd has been showing a non-stop list of log entries on my server's
 monitor. The server is starting in console mode (X, XFS and DM are not
 set to start on bootup, but can be started manually), and it starts
 displaying syslogd and klogd entries or data.

 I thought that syslogd was supposed to store it's entries in a log
 file(s), bot on the console. Can someone explain what's happening? I've
 never seen this before and I don't want to have to shut down the syslog
  klogd daemons.
Just a wild guess ..but are you running logrotate
IIRC you should be from what I have read on these lists


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Re: [newbie] How to install Xaw3d?

2005-03-12 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Saturday 12 March 2005 03:26 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 O.k., Mikkel, you convinced me (however I don't dislike learning to compile
 packages from source, in fact in future I'm thinking of getting into
 Linux From Scratch)
Will be intrested in how you come out on this 


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Re: [newbie] Canon Powershot A85

2005-03-11 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Friday 11 March 2005 07:59 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Mr. Geek wrote:
  Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
  Mr. Geek wrote:
  Hey Gang. I'm curious to know how I can go about detecting my digital
  camera (See Subject above) which is connected to one of my USB 2.0
  ports. Mandrake sees the USB ports but not the camera.
 
  Digikam and GPhoto seem to be able to work with this camera (It's
  listed in their respective camera lists, but since it's not being
  seen on the USB port, nothing is able to connect to the camera.
 
  If it helps, Hotplug is installed and running, and my USB mouse has
  been running for months without a hitch.
 
  What's the best way to mount a USB device, in which standard folder,
  and other than the standard USB Kernel modules, is there anything
  else needed?
 
  FYI, I'm running Mandrake 10.1, kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk.
 
  Are you sure it is not being seen? I have not looked up the camera,
  but most newer cameras show up as a storage device. Hotplug may have
  already mounted it as /mnt/camera or /mnt/removable.
 
  What does the output of lsusb show?
 
  Mikkel
 
  Mikkel; Thanks for getting back to me. Here's the output from lsusb;
 
  Bus 004 Device 001: ID :
  Bus 003 Device 001: ID :
  Bus 002 Device 002: ID 045e:0040 Logitech Corp. Optical Mouse
  Bus 002 Device 001: ID :
  Bus 001 Device 001: ID :
 
  I tried the mouse on some of the other USB ports and it came back
  without a hitch on those ports as well.
 
  Would I have to activate anything on the camera to enable USB
  connections? That's about the only other thing that would make any
  sense, unless the USB cable is bad, but the camera is only a few months
  old, and was working on some Windows PC's without any problems, even
  with this USB cable.
 
 
  Thanks for any help you can offer.

 I guess it is possible that you have to turn the camera on, but I do not
 think so. (Unless you had to do that for it to be detected in Windows.)
 I would double check the cable connections, and if you can, try a
 different cable. Even if Linux didn't identify the camera properly, it
 should still show up in the output of lsusb. Here is the output on my
 system with two unsupported cameras.

 Bus 002 Device 003: ID 05cb:1483 PowerVision Technologies, Inc. Trust
 CombiScan 19200
 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1046:9967 Winbond Electronics Corp. [hex]
 W9967CF/W9968CF WebCam IC
 Bus 002 Device 001: ID :
 Bus 001 Device 001: ID :

 Mikkel
The Camera has to be on so that the usb port on the camera is active


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Re: [newbie] licq-1.2.6-3mdk.i586.rpm.

2005-03-10 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 10 March 2005 10:12 pm, Tahir Abdullah wrote:
 Hi All
 Yesterday I registerd to this mailing list with a E-Mail address but today
 I got so many mails that I decided to change a new Mail Box for this. I got
 a response to someone for my following problem but I accidently deleted the
 response Could anybody please send those valuable words again. I am really
 sorry for this but now this will never happen again My problem is this:
 When I want to install a
 package gtk_licq-0.51-11mdk on my Mandrake-9.2. This package depends on
 another package called licq-1.2.6-3mdk.i586.rpm.
 I tried to find this package and found one on http:rpmfind.net but that was
 corrupted or having some problem and I could not download it. Could anyone
 please tell me from where can I get this package and is there any other
 solution e.g. to use a newer version of licq-1.2.7-3mdk.i586.rpm because I
 found this and tried to use this by RENAMING it but could not succeeded.
 I appreciate any guidance
 Thanks
 Tahir
open your web browser go to 
http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
follow the instructions for setting up your sources

open a  terminal su .rootpassword
cut and paste  the result into your  root terminal
enter wait while system updates
next you want to  type urpmi  gtk_licq-0.51-11mdk 
urpmi will handle the dependency's

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Re: [newbie] urpmi database blocked

2005-03-10 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 10 March 2005 10:56 pm, Tahir Abdullah wrote:
 Thanks Aron
 When I tried to follow the three steps on the web-site following error
 comes urpmi database locked
 WHat is this problem.
a reboot will fix this (inelegent  and there is probably a better way)
 The second problem is whenever I send mail from my  hotmail. It goes twice
 How can I fix it?
best solution is to not use hotmail
but  leaving the reply to field blank usually works
 I appreciate any guidance.
 Thanks
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Re: [newbie] Microsoft overrules EU Council

2005-03-09 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 07:52 am, rikona wrote:
 Hello Philippe,

 Tuesday, March 8, 2005, 10:49:37 PM, Philippe wrote:
  This is apparently of interest to quite a few people, and would be an
  EXCELLENT topic for the OT list... but someone has to start it there.
  Would you like to volunteer?

 PL unfortunately, the off-topic list is dominated
 PL by people with sectarian views proud of using foul language.

More Like Fowel language



 PL the rapid advancement of corporate-fascist take-over
 PL is obviously originating in the US and Europe.
and this post once you pull the relevent core isn't ?





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Re: [newbie] Where to find a package licq-1.2.6-3mdk.i586.rpm?

2005-03-09 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 08:41 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All
 I am using this list first time. I got a problem that I want to install a
 package gtk_licq-0.51-11mdk on my Mandrake-9.2. This package depends on
 another package called licq-1.2.6-3mdk.i586.rpm.
 I tried to find this package and found one on http:rpmfind.net but that was
 corrupted or having some problem and I could not download it. Could anyone
 please tell me from where can I get this package and is there any other
 solution e.g. to use a newer version of licq-1.2.7-3mdk.i586.rpm because I
 found this and tried to use this by RENAMING it but could not succeeded.
 I appreciate any guidance
 Thanks
urpmi is the way to go
1. point your browser to
http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
follow the directions to set up sources
cut and paste into a roo terminal
hit enter
If you have cable or dsl
otherwise it can take a long time
finaly
type urpmi.update -a  urpmi --auto-select -a
when it finishes 
type updatedb  update-menus
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Re: [newbie] Mac and Linux

2005-03-08 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Tuesday 08 March 2005 11:28 am, Paul Greene wrote:
 If it's a Mac program written for Mac OSX, it should be pretty easy to
 run on Linux because Mac OSX is Unix under the hood (well, Unix-like;
 the guts of OSX is a version of BSD). A lot of Mac OSX programs have
 Linux equivalents; others that come in source code format can usually be
 compiled under Linux.

 For pre-OSX Macs, uh, well, I think you're probably out of luck, unless
 someone has written some emulator software somewhere that'll do the trick.

 PG

 M.Schild wrote:
  Hi,
  someone just sent me this question. I, (of course) couldn´t answer but no
  doubt one of you will.
 
  Could you please ask one of your buddies that run Linux if Mac programs
  can be run from a pc that uses Linux?
I think that there is a version of linux fo macs
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/
 
  Maryse


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[newbie] When the Computer is winning

2005-03-08 Per discussione Aron Smith
go here ;-)
http://www.desktop-linux.net/


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Re: [newbie] I'never seen this before

2005-03-06 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sunday 06 March 2005 01:23 am, Al wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Randall D. Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 7:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] I'never seen this before

  On Sunday 06 March 2005 12:01 am, Aron Smith wrote:
   I have 2 systems both running Mdk 10.1
   there is one monitor connected with a KVM switch.
   tonight it started flipping from one computer to the other on a 4 sec

 cycle

   any body seen this before?
 
  Check your KVM switch. Many KVM switches have a key combination to put it

 in

  auto scan mode, which allows you to cycle through each PC with a delay
  which you can usually set. It sounds like you might have inadvertently

 found

  the key combination needed for that...
 
  --
  Take care,
  Randall Hobbs
  Programmer - System Administrator - Acquire Technology, LLC
  Web Hosting * Programming * Software
  http://www.acquire-technology.com

 I also have a KVM switch. I use CTRL CTRL F2 to switch between computers.
 CTRL CTRL F1 sets auto scan and it switches every 4 seconds for me too.

 To switch off auto-scan, I just have to hit CTRL CTRL

 HTH

 Al
Thanks this problem combined with the drastic slowdown in my area by my ISP 
had me thinking the worst
live ands learn :-|


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Re: [newbie] I'never seen this before

2005-03-06 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sunday 06 March 2005 04:20 am, Stephen Kühn wrote:
 On Sun, 2005-03-06 at 20:23, Al wrote:
  I also have a KVM switch. I use CTRL CTRL F2 to switch between computers.
  CTRL CTRL F1 sets auto scan and it switches every 4 seconds for me too.
 
  To switch off auto-scan, I just have to hit CTRL CTRL
 
  HTH
 
  Al

 I have a strange feeling that Mr. Aron and Mr. Bourbon shook hands way
 too many times and he inadvertently mucked up the key-combos...it HAS
 happened before - but for something completely different...
Don't drink Burbon ..too sweet
prefer Tequilia Patrone Silver

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Re: [newbie] I'never seen this before

2005-03-06 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Sunday 06 March 2005 07:27 am, Dennis Duffner wrote:
 At 12:01 AM 3/6/2005, you wrote:
 I have 2 systems both running Mdk 10.1
 there is one monitor connected with a KVM switch.
 tonight it started flipping from one computer to the other on a 4 sec
  cycle any body seen this before?
 
 
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 I use a KVM switch and I'll ask the obvious.  Are the buttons on the switch
 okay and not stuck?  Also, do you use the scrl-lock,scrl-lock-# method of
 changing screens?  There may be an issue with the keyboard.
Yes and I have noticed that the keyboard is due for replacement again
(oh well I got 7 months out of this one)

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 Not yet M$ free-but getting  closer


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[newbie] I'never seen this before

2005-03-05 Per discussione Aron Smith
I have 2 systems both running Mdk 10.1
there is one monitor connected with a KVM switch.
tonight it started flipping from one computer to the other on a 4 sec cycle
any body seen this before?


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Re: [newbie] IRC Client

2005-03-03 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 03 March 2005 03:22 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:50:54 +0100

 Kasper Thunoe disseminated the following:
Aron Smith disseminated the following:
 anybody have a recommendation for a good newbie friendly IRC
 client?
   
BTW, who the hell are all those people on #mandrake?? I didn't
recognize one name from the list...
  
   got a lot of newbies ;-D
 
  XChat is by far the best client. Thats what I think anyways :-)
 
  @ Aron  Joe: What are your irc nicks?

 just joehill pour moi, I would assume Aron's is 'buttmuncher' or
 somesuch...
it's aron

 /ducks

 Anyhow, I was just checkin' it out, I don't have a lot of time to spend on
 idle chat. Wife, two young'uns, you know the drill.


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Re: [newbie] IRC Client

2005-03-03 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 03 March 2005 04:16 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:44:09 -0800

 Aron Smith disseminated the following:
  it's aron

 ...what happened to 'smitty'? I always kinda liked that. Has that
 down-home, hangin' out at the general store, smokin' a big bunch o' bionic
 chronic kinda thang...

 Anyhow, you knows I's kiddin' ya, ya big galoot :-)
Actualy it's evilaron



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Re: [newbie] any question

2005-03-03 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 03 March 2005 04:18 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100

 Stefan Tulak disseminated the following:
  I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very pleasured.

 Shite, I never got that kinda stimulation out of it.
must be 10.1 interactive p0rn edition ;-)


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Re: [newbie] any question

2005-03-03 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 03 March 2005 05:16 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Friday 04 March 2005 01:18, JoeHill wrote:
  On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100
 
  Stefan Tulak disseminated the following:
   I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very
   pleasured.
 
  Shite, I never got that kinda stimulation out of it.

 Very funny comment indeed, Joe  :-(

 I Know it may come as an incomprehensible shock to most Americans
 here, but not everyone living on this tiny planet received the
 divine blessing of being brought up in the English/US/Redneck
 tongue. Of course that's a big mistake by the Lord. I'll admit that
 for sure.  And I can't for the sake of me understand why he didn't
 let Mr. Gutenberg print the Bible in English rather than in
 Latin/Greek/Hebrew/Whatever ???

 That aside, I feel ashamed when a non-rap-redneck-speaking newcomer
 (NRRSN for the Americans) to this list formulates his joy of
 becoming a member of the free community, and he is received by
 ridiculing comments about misspelling and mis-syntaxing.

 A few years ago this list was friendlier.

 Sorry for my bad English..
Kaji ..If you give this bunch a bad pun they, will give you even worse puns in 
return

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Re: [newbie] any question

2005-03-03 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 03 March 2005 06:12 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Friday 04 March 2005 02:57, Aron Smith wrote:
  On Thursday 03 March 2005 05:16 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
   On Friday 04 March 2005 01:18, JoeHill wrote:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100
   
Stefan Tulak disseminated the following:
 I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very
 pleasured.
   
Shite, I never got that kinda stimulation out of it.
  
   Very funny comment indeed, Joe  :-(
  
   I Know it may come as an incomprehensible shock to most
   Americans here, but not everyone living on this tiny planet
   received the divine blessing of being brought up in the
   English/US/Redneck tongue. Of course that's a big mistake by
   the Lord. I'll admit that for sure.  And I can't for the sake
   of me understand why he didn't let Mr. Gutenberg print the
   Bible in English rather than in Latin/Greek/Hebrew/Whatever ???
  
   That aside, I feel ashamed when a non-rap-redneck-speaking
   newcomer (NRRSN for the Americans) to this list formulates his
   joy of becoming a member of the free community, and he is
   received by ridiculing comments about misspelling and
   mis-syntaxing.
  
   A few years ago this list was friendlier.
  
   Sorry for my bad English..
 
  Kaji ..If you give this bunch a bad pun they, will give you even
  worse puns in return

 Huh...?
Pun a deliberate misuse of the language for (so-called) humor
proper response to a pin is groan

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Re: [newbie] various issues - apology

2005-03-03 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 03 March 2005 11:36 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
  
 
  you all do know that as root urpmi rute will install rute,, adn just
  typing 'rute' in a cli will start rute
 
 
  ---

 Actually typing rute in cli didn't start rute for me.  Though I haven't
 urpmi'ed it yet.
Wl that *could* be the reason ;-)


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Re: [newbie] any question

2005-03-03 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Thursday 03 March 2005 09:40 pm, Aidan Holmes wrote:
 Which brings up the question on every perverts mind - I wonder if
 someone is building an XXX-rated distro of Linux yet?
 
 LinuXXX?
 
 Sinux?

 Hmmm. porno on linuxall the filth you want for your eyes, but
 none for your hard drive (virus's, ad/spy/malware). I hope Micro$oft
 doesn't hear about this, they might spread rumours that because linux
 doesn't support adware it therefore encourages browsing for porn. M$ has
 referred to Linux as a cancer before, might it now be 'the cancer that
 causes the moral decline of society'?  ;)
What ever you call it...it's gotta have joystick support


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Re: [newbie] IRC Client

2005-03-02 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 10:39 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
 On Wednesday 02 Mar 2005 19:16, Aron Smith wrote:
  On Tuesday 01 March 2005 09:17 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
   On Tuesday 01 March 2005 11:02 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
anybody have a recommendation for a good newbie friendly IRC client?
  
   Best one I know in the repository is xchat, but if you are feeling a
   little adventurous and you use kde, building konversation from cvs
   might be fun. It has a lot of cool features.  The .15.1 version that
   comes with Mandrake is a little long in the tooth right now, so if you
   want to stick with stable, I'd recommend xchat over the others.
 
  Thanks gang for the recomendations
  have d/l ed ksirc now to figgure out how to use it

 Oops - Ksirc Handbook is what I read 
Yeppers reading it now ;-)


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Re: [newbie] IRC Client

2005-03-02 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 04:53 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 20:02:45 -0800

 Aron Smith disseminated the following:
  anybody have a recommendation for a good newbie friendly IRC client?

 BTW, who the hell are all those people on #mandrake?? I didn't recognize
 one name from the list...
got a lot of newbies ;-D


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Re: [newbie] printer - yext not printing as preview shows

2005-03-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 12:38 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
 On Tuesday 01 Mar 2005 00:02, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Monday 28 Feb 2005 00:25, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
   Thanks - I tried that but the printer didn't work.  Will troll the
   various forums and do some googling.  There must be a simple
   explanation. Thanks anyway
   Rosemary
 
  Did you check that you had xpp installed?  kprinter instead of xpp in
  that box works equally well, and if you have kde installed you will
  definitely have that.
 
  Anne

 No I didn't have xpp installed and have now installed it.  Still wouldn't
 print with XPP in the window but did with kprinter.  It's a better print
 out but still a small problem printing say, the Rute Tutorial, where text
 runs into the next word ocassionally.
Printing out the Rute tutorial is about 1000 pages idf you must have a dead 
tree copy it would be cheaper to buy it
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/104-2635319-6707917

 Thanks
 Rosemary


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Re: [newbie] various issues

2005-03-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 11:14 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
 On Tuesday 01 March 2005 12:16 pm, Kirschner, Mark wrote:
  Julie Sloan claimed:
 
  But I never broke windows so badly I had to reinstall it!
 
  Julie
  --
 
  Um, you need to boot the computer for it to break  ;-)

 Maybe I never broke it or got so virus'd up I couldn't fix it myself
 because I didn't use IE or OE.

 Maybe I was just lucky, or maybe I was lucky in another way, running into
 people on USENET who told me get a real ISP get a real browser and
 join cauce.

 So within three or four months of getting a computer (with cringe advice
 from Dad, who STILL swears the sun rises and sets on AOHell), I'd moved
 from AOL to mindspring, from IE to Netsape, was using Eudora-light for a
 mail reader and FreeAgent for newsgroups, and was reading snopes.com and
 symantec before forwarding all those warnings.  g  And preaching to
 anyone who'd listen that AOL is the kindergarden of the internet - fine,
 start there, but move on as soon as you are able or you'll never learn
 anything.  Now I'm applying all I've learned into getting a real OS, and
 it's really frustrating to be back in preschool.

 Maybe this musing is getting a bit too OT for this list.  :)
not at all we have all gone through similar times (except for the Ubergeeks 
that hang out on the cooker list)

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Re: [newbie] various issues

2005-03-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 06:21 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
 On Tuesday 01 March 2005 05:01 pm, Russ Kepler wrote:
  On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:54 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
   On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers
operate in vi mode reflexively.
  
   I am looking forward to some day soon being able to say the same thing.
  
:)
 
  As long as you don't invoke the dreaded emacs you're all right with me.
  (There's something wrong with an editor that hauls around an eliza in
  every instance).

 Ok.  Would you please repeat that, more slowly this time, and in newbie
 English?  Thanks.
Don't even go there ..they are about to restart the great emacs vs vi war

 Julie


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[newbie] IRC Client

2005-03-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
anybody have a recommendation for a good newbie friendly IRC client?


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Re: [newbie] IRC Client

2005-03-01 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 09:17 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Tuesday 01 March 2005 11:02 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
  anybody have a recommendation for a good newbie friendly IRC client?

 Best one I know in the repository is xchat, but if you are feeling a little
 adventurous and you use kde, building konversation from cvs might be fun. 
 It has a lot of cool features.  The .15.1 version that comes with Mandrake
 is a little long in the tooth right now, so if you want to stick with
 stable, I'd recommend xchat over the others.
Thanks gang for the recomendations
have d/l ed ksirc now to figgure out how to use it


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Re: [newbie] Networking

2005-02-28 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Monday 28 February 2005 05:44 am, SOTL wrote:
 Hi All

 Please disregard following help request.

 Issue disappeared when I realized that problem was caused by jarring box
 with my foot causing HD drive not to be fully connected.

 Box is test setup with sliding drawers in it so HD may be easily setting on
 floor by my desk in position where foot may accidentally hit HD drawer.
 Which is apparently what happened.
Raising the box off the floor solves a lot of problems
dust dirt etc.

 Thanks for all previous help.

 Frank

 On Sunday 27 February 2005 15:46, SOTL wrote:
  Hi All
 
  Help !
 
  Sorry for screaming but I do feel a bit better now.
 
  I added 1 computer to the network so now there are a total of 3 as
  follows:
 
  MSI with name of Reality_Check @ 192.168.2.7 with Mandrake 10.1
  HP with name Meatloaf_Night @ 192.168.2.9 with Mandrake 9.2
  IBM with name Big_Nate @ 192.168.2.2 with Mandrake 10.1
 
  I do not have the ability to install 10.1 on the HP with out replacing
  the CD reader with a DVD reader.
 
  From any one box I can ping either [or both at the same time] of the
  other two boxes. For example from the IBM box I can ping MSI by using
  192.168.2.7 and/or HP by using 192.168.2.9.
 
  I can not ping either of the other boxes by using names. For example I
  can not ping MSI or HP by using the names Reality_Check or Meatloaf_Night
  nor can I ping the IBM box from either MSI or HP using Big_Nate.
 
  So, numbers work; names do not work.
 
  I was able to access the MSI box from both the HP box and the IBM box by
  using the following:
  fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory
  or fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I was not able to access any box by
  fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory
 
  I was not able to access the IBM box from either the HP box or the MSI
  box using
  fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory
  or
  fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory
 
  I was not able to access the HP box from either the IBM box or the MSI
  box using
  fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory
  or
  fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/directory
 
  So, one function apparently correctly two did not function as expected.
 
  I checked packages for the IBM and HP against   the MSI.
 
  The MSI and IBM have the following packages installed:
  kdeutils-kdessh
  openssh
  openssh-askpass
  openssh-askpass-gnome
  openssh-client
  openssh-server
  scanssh
  sshd-monitor
 
  The HP package are somewhat different and due to inadequate notes I may
  not have the content exactly correct so we will skip that at this time.
 
  First Question:
 
  Are there other packages that are required to ssh into a box that I do
  not have listed above?
 
  Second Question:
 
  If there are no additional packages required why does one work [of sorts]
  and one not?
 
  That above [of sorts] is important as after completing I left work went
  home did laundry and returned to work to attempt to make the other two
  boxes work.
 
  Firing up all 3 computers the 2 which I was not able to access by fish
  came up normal and functioned normal.
 
  The MSi box which I was able to access by fish came up with video up to
  3/4 way through KDE boot at which time it lost video and maybe key and
  mouse too as they did not appear to be functioning either.
 
  I shut the box down by turning power off [bad practice] since I appear to
  have no control of box.
 
  I repeated the above several times with identical results.
 
  I attempted to access box by fish and was able to do so.
 
  I placed Mandrake 10.1 disk in DVD drive and did an upgrade.
 
  Booting box after upgrade I still got blank screen and most possible no
  mouse and no keyboard.
 
  Third Question:
 
  How does one go about establishing why, how issue develops and how does
  one repair?
 
  Thanks
  Frank
 
   /etc/hosts is a system file and can only be edited by root user. If you
   are in KDE hit Alt+F2 and enter 'kdesu konqueror' to get a root copy of
   konqueror file manager.
  
   If your IP address does keep changing, then it may be more convenient
   to use samba instead of fish.
   Samba allows you to join a Windows network, and you can pass files
   between both Windows and Linux computers.
  
Since I would imagine part of my ping issue is that hostname is not
set and user name may not be [not sure if user name is same as login
user or if this is different user name] lets tackle username and host
name first. How do I set them up?
  
   The user name is the login name.
  
 derek
   
Thanks for the help
Frank
  
   HTH
   derek


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Re: [newbie] various issues

2005-02-28 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Monday 28 February 2005 06:16 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
 On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
  Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to XP
  compaired to changing from 98 to Linux...

 What about it?

 I went from 98 to XP last summer, and learned my way around XP while I was
 waiting for my linux CDs to arrive.

 Now I make a little pin money troubleshooting XP systems in my
 neighborhood, but the only time *this* *here* computer boots into Window$
 is when I need to print something.  That was today, and  ...two or three
 weeks ago, I'd guess.
Why into windows to print?


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