Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush
Would it be too much to ask that this discussion be continued privately? It really has nothing at all to do with the content matter of this list and it think it is a little inconsiderate to the many of us out here who are not Americans and futhermore really couldn't give one hoot about U.S. politics and elections. Thank you. "Ronald J. Hall" wrote: "F. E. Schaper" wrote: Ok, I see that every right wing, gun toting, special interest puppet that is on this list is attempting to suck me into a political debate. I refuse to get into such a battle on this list as this forum is not an appropriate area for discussion of such things, however if you feel the need to push your agenda down my throat and explain to me why someone with a history of hard drug abuse who would not be anywhere at all without his rich oil-baron (who nearly bankrupted the country, while himself attaining great wealth) father's political connections, and who could not even manage to run a baseball team, or do anything more in Texas than execute people, and who has openly stated he wants to use federal money to pay parents to send their children to private school, yet maintains that he will not allocate more federal money for schools because "education is the responsibility of the state, it's not a federal problem, so we shouldn't spend federal money there, it's wasteful" would be a good choice for president, please do so. I don't even own a gun... But I sincerely believe its everyones right to do so, if they wish... and I'm not a puppet...I think for myself... -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] off-topic (webring-app)
Try http://hotscripts.com KompuKit wrote: Can someone tell me where I can get an APP or cgi-script of some sort..to HOST a WEBRING...on my server? FREE, of course -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
Hola Fernando, Quizas http://www.driverguide.com puede ayudarle. No hay muchos drivers de Linux, pero al menos puede encontrar otras personas que buscan la misma cosa! Buena suerte - Fernando, Maybe http://www.driverguide.com can help you. There aren't very many drivers for Linux there, but at least you'll be able to find someone else who is looking for the same thing. Good luck. Brian King
Re: [newbie] 7.1 Install freezes at IDE config
I had the same problem with my Matshita CD ROM originally. After tearing my hair out for a few days I set everything in my bios to default on my Abit motherboard. Installed without a hitch. Could be sth to do with PnP but it's hard to say because I had turned that off and it still didn't work. Brian Chua Leap Kee wrote: Hi, i'm also having the same problem. But I'm usinga Teac CD ROM that Mandrake state that it is compatable. so i tried to install through harddisk and i find the following message. "insmod failed" what is the exactly the problem. -Original Message- From: Romanator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 7:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] 7.1 Install freezes at IDE config The same thing happened to me on an older Dell Dimension XPS 200s MMX I am using a CD player from Creative. I am wondering if I used the test-mode install. It seemed to work with some other users. Roman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.1 Install freezes at IDE config I used a Nec cdrom and had no problems. Even though Redhat 6.0 is not compatable with nec drives. Mandrake may be diffrent. Though I did install mandrake threw it also. If you are getting a erorr on trying to get the buss to scan there may be a problem with the ide controler it self. The only way that I know to test that is to unplug every thing except a hard drive and a disk drive and use the hd ( manufacture's ) drive utilityes to anlise the disk. Any Ide buss related porblems would show up. - Original Message - From: "Cunningham Michael" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] 7.1 Install freezes at IDE config Jaguar, thanks for the suggestion. I noticed, though, that Mandrake says that all Mitsumi CDROMS are supported. What do you think is happening? Thanks Mike Jaguar wrote: Try swapping the CD-Rom out for on of another manufacture. HTH Jaguar "Cunningham Michael" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to install Mandrake 7.1, but it consistently freezes at the "configuring IDE" installation stage (I have to hit the 'reset' button). I've tried booting from the CDROM and launching from w/in Win98, lin4win and full install, graphical and text install, PnP BIOS off and on, always with the same result. Any suggestions as to how to fix this (or information resources on the web that deal with installation troubleshooting--haven't found much of that)? I should admit that I know practically nothing about linux, but thought that the reportedly idiotproof Linux-Mandrake would be a good way to learn. If the answer is that I'm therefore unqualified to install linux, I won't be offended to hear that. My system: Pentium Pro 200, 64M RAM Intel motherboard, Intel BIOS 2.0G WDC HD Mitsumi CDROM Intel PCI busmaster IDE N9 Imagine 128(Series 2) Ensoniq AudioPCI Win98 Thanks Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] network card config problem
I should be getting sth like "eth0 Link encap Ethernet HWaddress 00 60 ."when I issue: ifconfig eth0 - but I just get an error about an unknown device. However HardDrake acknowledges that i have a configured Realtek 8029 and I also have Apache installed and can access http://127.0.0.1 with Netscape. But it looks like sth is wrong if ifconfig can't find eth0. Are there other tests I can carry out to track this down? BTW, if anyone else is trying to do what I'm trying to do - make my ADSL cable connection work - no help for people who don't use Windows from the ISP - I found a wonderful site at http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/ Unfortunately, I can't figure out if my NIC is working ok and so can't get to the next step. Any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong would be appreciated. Thanks, Brian
Re: [newbie] Linux resources online
Steve, Are you using Chinese on Mandrake? I tried briefly by choosing GB Simplified Chinese in the language setting which converted my menus to code. I then tried selecting a Chinese font but it didn't do anything. There are some How to use Chinese on Linux docs around but it looks like it will take a bit of time to wade through it. Anybody else using Chinese or other languages on Mandrake? Brian (in Hong Kong) Steve Weltman wrote: Microsoft would only be so helpful for the right amount of money (usually more than the cost of the trouble, and the O/S you bought). Cheers! *(Having fun with Linux in China!) Steve Weltman - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Ferris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux resources online "Let's face it: getting support for Windows is much easier than getting support for Linux. That's because there are a few things militating against the development of a useful Linux support network. The first is that Linux is a derivative of Unix, a true programmer's paradise. Unix has long been the domain which you enter by walking beneath banners that say 'Normal humans need not apply' and 'User-friendliness is for wimps'. A lot of this attitude has rolled over into the Linux community. It expresses itself in newsgroups where flaming is a matter of course, anyone who can't phrase a question in hexadecimal is torn to bits, and medals are awarded for answers couched in the most cryptic terms possible." It is easy to get support for Windows. You call the tech support and wait on hold for hours on end. THEN you get to talk to somebody who really doesn't care about your problem, and probably don't know how to solve it anyway. To you tech support people out there, I know, your job sucks, you don't have to tell me heh heh. Aside from that... My experience with the 2 lists I subscribe to (KDE and Mandrake) people are more than willing to help. And you get anwsers that are to the point and correct most of the time. And unlike the Windows support, on the Linux lists (well, on the KDE list) you can get help from the developers themselves. Another example, a few months ago I was trying to compile and install Ksnuffle so I could have a nice easy to use sniffer program. When I went to compile it, gcc 2.95 did what it does best and ate itself on a change from char * to const char *. I e-mailed the developer and 2 weeks later he gave me a place where I could download the sources that were fixed for use with gcc 2.95. Somehow I doubt that Microsoft would be so helpful... :-) Dan
Re: [Re: [newbie] cd install dilemma]
Sorry - think I hit "reply" instead of "reply all" earlier. I fixed my problem. Maybe my experience will be of use to others. I just changed the settings on ABIT m'board bios to "default". I had previously shutoff "PnP", but evidently that wasn't enough. Anyway, everything went smoothly after that and installed perfectly. Brian Jaguar wrote: I think I remember reading a post here about someone waiting 20 mins or more then the drawer opened and they were able to continue. Maybe you just have to wait longer for the drawer to open??? Just a thought HTH Jaguar Brian King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a similar problem. Also have 7.1 CD package and can't boot from CD - the bios setting doesn't work. I have uninstalled PnP. As far as I can get is "detecting CD ROM" and the "loading second image" message. The computer then reboots into Windows or goes through the same thing again if i use a floppy. One I managed to get it to go through CD probing manually. Matshita was not on the list - although it's on Mandrake's official hardware list. I went through all the other CDs that were found, but nothing else worked either. Strange thing is, installation was successful on my other machine with almost identical configuration. Any similar experiences, suggestions etc? ABIT BH6 Mother board 300 Mhz Celeron (o'clocked to 450) 64 MB PC100 RAM Trident Blade 3d PCI/AGP Western Digital 6.4 GB HD Realtek RTL8029(AS) 10/100 PCI Ethernet Creative SB 16 (PCI version) Matshita 40X CDROM CR 586 100MB Zip Drive Thanks, Brian linus nuby wrote: I have been having trouble installing 7.1 from CD. Dell P166MMX Toshiba XM-6502B ATAPI cd-rom The bios won't let me boot from CD, so I had to boot from floppy. Everything goes well until it's time to change CDs. The drawer won't open on the drive. If I choose Cancel, the install finishes and I have a working Linux without the packages from the Apps CD. The drive works fine after install. If I spring the drive drawer, switch CDs and hit OK, install loops still asking for the Apps CD. When I choose Cancel after that, the machine freezes in post install mode. Any ideas? Thanx ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] cd install dilemma
Actually, I already fixed it. I set my bios to the default settings and it worked fine so it could have been sth similar. Thanks, Brian Mogens Jæger wrote: Charles A Edwards wrote: - Original Message - From: "Brian King" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] cd install dilemma I have a similar problem. Also have 7.1 CD package and can't boot from CD - the bios setting doesn't work. I have uninstalled PnP. As far as I can get is "detecting CD ROM" and the "loading second image" message. The computer then reboots into Windows or goes through the same thing again if i use a floppy. One I managed to get it to go through CD probing manually. Matshita was not on the list - although it's on Mandrake's official hardware list. I went through all the other CDs that were found, but nothing else worked either. Strange thing is, installation was successful on my other machine with almost identical configuration. Any similar experiences, suggestions etc? Brian Use a Win Start Disk to boot to your CD-Rom. This will load the drivers and you should be able to run the Mandrake CD. Charles Hello I have been through something like it. I have just upgraded my machine, and the new BIOS turned out to be the problem. Both the old and new ones were from AWARD, but in the new, I have to set my CDROM and LS120 drives to AUTO in the 'BIOS features setup menu'to be able to boot from them! Hopes this can be of help to you. Sincerely Mogens Jæger
Re: [Re: [newbie] cd install dilemma]
I fixed it. I reset all the settings on the bios to default. Everything's has installed with no problem. A great OS! Thanks for input, anyway. Brian Jaguar wrote: I think I remember reading a post here about someone waiting 20 mins or more then the drawer opened and they were able to continue. Maybe you just have to wait longer for the drawer to open??? Just a thought HTH Jaguar Brian King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a similar problem. Also have 7.1 CD package and can't boot from CD - the bios setting doesn't work. I have uninstalled PnP. As far as I can get is "detecting CD ROM" and the "loading second image" message. The computer then reboots into Windows or goes through the same thing again if i use a floppy. One I managed to get it to go through CD probing manually. Matshita was not on the list - although it's on Mandrake's official hardware list. I went through all the other CDs that were found, but nothing else worked either. Strange thing is, installation was successful on my other machine with almost identical configuration. Any similar experiences, suggestions etc? ABIT BH6 Mother board 300 Mhz Celeron (o'clocked to 450) 64 MB PC100 RAM Trident Blade 3d PCI/AGP Western Digital 6.4 GB HD Realtek RTL8029(AS) 10/100 PCI Ethernet Creative SB 16 (PCI version) Matshita 40X CDROM CR 586 100MB Zip Drive Thanks, Brian linus nuby wrote: I have been having trouble installing 7.1 from CD. Dell P166MMX Toshiba XM-6502B ATAPI cd-rom The bios won't let me boot from CD, so I had to boot from floppy. Everything goes well until it's time to change CDs. The drawer won't open on the drive. If I choose Cancel, the install finishes and I have a working Linux without the packages from the Apps CD. The drive works fine after install. If I spring the drive drawer, switch CDs and hit OK, install loops still asking for the Apps CD. When I choose Cancel after that, the machine freezes in post install mode. Any ideas? Thanx ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] cd install dilemma
Thanks Charles. I solved the problem by putting all bios settings to default on my Abit motherboard. Everything installed perfectly. Brian Charles A Edwards wrote: - Original Message - From: "Brian King" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] cd install dilemma I have a similar problem. Also have 7.1 CD package and can't boot from CD - the bios setting doesn't work. I have uninstalled PnP. As far as I can get is "detecting CD ROM" and the "loading second image" message. The computer then reboots into Windows or goes through the same thing again if i use a floppy. One I managed to get it to go through CD probing manually. Matshita was not on the list - although it's on Mandrake's official hardware list. I went through all the other CDs that were found, but nothing else worked either. Strange thing is, installation was successful on my other machine with almost identical configuration. Any similar experiences, suggestions etc? Brian Use a Win Start Disk to boot to your CD-Rom. This will load the drivers and you should be able to run the Mandrake CD. Charles
Re: [newbie] cd install dilemma
I have a similar problem. Also have 7.1 CD package and can't boot from CD - the bios setting doesn't work. I have uninstalled PnP. As far as I can get is "detecting CD ROM" and the "loading second image" message. The computer then reboots into Windows or goes through the same thing again if i use a floppy. One I managed to get it to go through CD probing manually. Matshita was not on the list - although it's on Mandrake's official hardware list. I went through all the other CDs that were found, but nothing else worked either. Strange thing is, installation was successful on my other machine with almost identical configuration. Any similar experiences, suggestions etc? ABIT BH6 Mother board 300 Mhz Celeron (o'clocked to 450) 64 MB PC100 RAM Trident Blade 3d PCI/AGP Western Digital 6.4 GB HD Realtek RTL8029(AS) 10/100 PCI Ethernet Creative SB 16 (PCI version) Matshita 40X CDROM CR 586 100MB Zip Drive Thanks, Brian linus nuby wrote: I have been having trouble installing 7.1 from CD. Dell P166MMX Toshiba XM-6502B ATAPI cd-rom The bios won't let me boot from CD, so I had to boot from floppy. Everything goes well until it's time to change CDs. The drawer won't open on the drive. If I choose Cancel, the install finishes and I have a working Linux without the packages from the Apps CD. The drive works fine after install. If I spring the drive drawer, switch CDs and hit OK, install loops still asking for the Apps CD. When I choose Cancel after that, the machine freezes in post install mode. Any ideas? Thanx ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
Re: [newbie] Linux resources online
Thanks, very interesting! The guy who thought up the concept of GUI - Vannevar Bush - also wrote an article called "As we may think" (or sth similar) in which he set out the idea of "hypertext". Really ahead of his time... Brian Nickolas Koehne wrote: If you guys wanna know how PARC Engineers built the Xerox Alto, how Steve Jobs "acquired" the design, and how microsoft stole it... http://www.applemuseum.seastar.net/sections/gui.html There's everything you want to know about how the GUI was born. Including it's conception in 1945. -Darkeyes - Original Message - From: "Romanator" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux resources online Adrian Smith wrote: actually, i think (could be wrong) that it was xerox that was going to sue apple, they came up with the GUI first. i also think that Apple did actually get it in a court, the it was ruled that the GUI was not something they could claim as their own. Romanator wrote: Let's take it a little further. Windows isn't original. Isn't it a derivative? A nice little thing I once read in a book (don't recall the title, I read too much :) is that at one time Apple wanted to sue Microsoft for copying the idea of the mouse-driven graphical interface. Then, from Palo Alto, Kodak (!!) came up and threatened to sue Apple for the same thing if they were going on with that. Old film and paper documents showed that Kodak had been experimenting with mouses etc. already long before Apple got the idea. (Could be that I am completely wrong with Kodak as the company, but that is how I remember it.) Paul Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they're not suing each other, the are either merging or buying off small bits of their offshoot companies. Hmhh... Makes you think. (he-he) -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293
