RE: [newbie] motherboard compatibility: asus

2001-02-03 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

My 2cents-I have been trying to get 7.2 to install on a BCM I810P, but it
doesn't seem compatible with Linux.  KDE, Gnome, and X have problems with
it.

Don W. Jenkins
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] motherboard compatibility: asus

On Thursday 01 February 2001 08:15 am, Mark Johnson wrote:
 I checked the mandrake site for MB compatibility but couldn't find
 any information.  I was planning on getting an Asus ATX Super7 5/2
 [P5A] does anyone anticipate problems.

   no problem, Asus makes a very good board, so does Gigabyte mostly

  I had a gigabyte board and
 linux refused to install with the CDROM I got for it.

   what cdrom?, some are almost useless, Sony comes to mind

 It installed
 fine when I tried the same CDROM on my dell PC so I just assume the
 gigabyte board was the problem

 I'd rank anything Dell first.  Dell only uses the absolute lowest
cost, limited, often substandard, proprietary stuff they can arm-twist
thru volume buying hardware.

 Does anyone think I'll have problems with this Asus board?

   nope, other than it won't be compatible with a Dell case/power
supply.  The cure is to get rid of Dell junk as much as possible

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[newbie] FW: Mandrake 7.2 install/missing font/XFree86?

2001-01-29 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins



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From: Don W. Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 8:15 PM
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Subject: Mandrake 7.2 install/missing font/XFree86?

Until recently, I was the happy master of a dual boot system with Win
98/Mandrake 7.1.  I got a new machine so I could be separate from the rest
of the family, and it initially came with Win ME installed.  I then
attempted to install Mandrake 7.1 on a second HD, but I could never get a
clean install-packages didn't get installed which were critical to the
system, so it wouldn't even run.  I suspected that the medium was faulty, as
I had gotten these errors earlier on the other machine.  So I bought the
Mandrake Complete 7.2 boxed set (4 CD), and the install seemed to go fine,
no error messages.  It even did a good job of setting up the internet
connection, which worked. One of the few things that does.  When I booted up
again, I found that neither KDE nor Gnome will run.  Blackbox is OK, which
is fine with me, but there are programs from both KDE and Gnome that I need
to run.  When I try to start any KDE programs, I either get a total crash
message, or I get an error message that no acceptable fixed font can be
found.  The version of Xfree86 is 4.0.1, and I'm wondering if this is part
of the problem.  A time or two, when I tried to open something it didn't
like, X just crashed, leaving me to a command line console.  The only way to
restart X is to reboot.  I'm wondering why there is/are missing fonts, or if
they aren't missing why X can't find them.  I'm wondering if things would
run better with the previous version of Xfree86.  My system is a Celeron
566, 64 mb of ram, one 20 gig HD with Windows and one 15 gig HD for Linux.
The MB is a BCM IN810P, with onboard video and sound.  I can't figure out
from the manual what the video RAM is.  Anyway, does anyone have any insight
into this problem?  I had been pleased with Mandrake up to this point.

Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] Where did D: go?

2000-12-22 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

Don't know if it is like this, but my Windows 98 regularly switches drive
letters on me between my second partition HDD, and my Zip drive, supposed to
be E:.  I regularly wind up with the letters reversed, and shortcuts not
working, etc.  You might check to see if Windows is calling it something
else.

Don J.
- Original Message -
From: "Paul R" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Where did D: go?


 Hi, Caroll, this is a bug on the 7.1 installer when run in non-expert
 mode.

 There is a fix at

 http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/heliumlast.php3
 halfway down the page (2nd error scenario).

 Download the script and save it as a file and then run it using the
 command "perl linux_extended_fix.pl".

 Searching the list's database you can find explanations of what caused
 this problem, I'm not really sure off the top of my head (actually, I
 didn't understand it when I read it).  :)

 Good luck!  I hope this helps!

 -paul r
 Carroll Grigsby wrote:

  I'm in the process of undergoing a major rebuild/reinstall. I've
  replaced the old m/b with an Abit KT7 and Athlon 800. Neat. After I god
  the system up and running, I said to decided to just kill all of the old
  software and start over. That turned out to be not so neat. After
  removing all of the old partitions from both drives with PM 6.0, I
  installed  Win98SE on the master -- 10 gb, two partitions. Sorta got
  that working, so tonight I put LM 7.1 on the other drive (15 gb). Not
  wanting to push things, I settled for the basic LM install. All went
  well with one exception: I can access the win d: from Linux, but windows
  can't. Says there ain't no such critter. Any ideas about how I can
  convince windows that the extended partition is still there? If worse
  comes to worse, I can always use windows' fdisk to recreate the
  partition and reload the stuff that's in there, but I'd like to avoid
  that hassle. (The thing that really ticks me off about this is that I've
  done this before without a hitch. Guess I forgot something.)
  Regards,
  cmg
 
 



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Re: [newbie] Linux and Netscape 6

2000-11-17 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

I had the same problem with Netscape's own installer program, but I
recalled that I had seen a download link at Icewalkers for the tarball
itself.  I downloaded that with wget just fine, no cut-offs, and untarred
it and than ran the installer that is included.  It works much better that
way than trying to do it from
Netscape. The link is:  http://www.icewalk.com/softlib/app/app_00916.html
Good luck.  

Don J.


On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Dennis Myers wrote:

 Has anyone else had a problem d/l the Netscape6 browser? I get part way through,
 
 a download and the netscape server seems to die. I still have a internet connection
 
 but get 0 from the d/l server. I didn't hear of any time limits on the connection
 
 but I am trying to get it with a 56k modem. I have seen the 6 at work and it does
 
 look like Mozilla. Maybe I should just wait for Mozilla to get to alpha and
 
 let Netscape keep trying to get back their windows share. Any one with thoughts
 
 or suggestions?  Dennis M.
 
 --
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Re: [newbie] Linux version of Arachnophilia?

2000-10-13 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

If you want bells and whistles and an interface similar to HomeSite,
CoffeeCup works pretty well, although it ultimately is not free.  If you
just want to write HTML with some basic support, including Weblint to
check it for you, try Bluefish, which is free.  Another is AsWedit, which
I like less well.  

Don J.


On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Jeff Malka wrote:

 There is a powerful free webpage editor called Arachnophilia which I use and
 like in the NT world.  There does not seem to be a Linux version of it (even
 though it is freeware).
 
 Does anyone know of a similar html editor in Linux?
 
 Thanks
 
 
 

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Re: [newbie] Running Setiathome

2000-10-05 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

Thanks!  Downloading as we speak.

Don J. 

On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Trevor Reynolds wrote:

 Dan,
 You may want to use a GUI on top of Seti go to:
 
 http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/links.html#links_unix
 
 and you'll find some nice accessories.  Good luck
 
 Trevor
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Dan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 5:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Running Setiathome
 
 
  If you want to run it in text mode you can add the
  verbose option.  Just add -verbose at it will show
  lots of detail and once in a while the percentage
  done.  If you let it run all the time it will try to
  connect to the internet and get a new work unit.  I
  think it checks every hour for a network connection so
  if you have dial up only and stay on for an hour it
  will connect automatically.  If not you can shut it
  down and restart it when you are connected.
  --- Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   It was Oct 2, 2000, 22:03, when Dennis Myers
   keyboarded:
   
   I downloaded Setiathome and installed, initiated
   the first download from
   the website and started just fine. Now I can't see
   what progress is made
   or not and can't figure out how to get another work
   unit if my first one
   is done. Doesn't it tell you when you log on to the
   net that it want's
   to connect for download? This could be fun if I can
   figure out how to
   run it. Some help to a man or faq page or just some
   enlightenment by
   email would be appreciated.
   
   You can get the xsetiathome package to see what the
   progress is.
   When it's done, it will try to connect to the net to
   get the next package,
   unless you specify -stop_after_process with it
   
   Paul
   
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Re: [newbie] Some Emails Returned

2000-10-05 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

I got the same problem with AOL, as well as some others.  I think I solved
the problem by using Pine with SMTP rather than Postfix.  I don't know if
that will help you.  It seems that programs like Netscape Messenger and
Pronto which don't use Postfix are all right, too.  

Don J.

On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Michael R. wrote:

 Is anybody else having trouble sending emails to persons using
 AOL?  I recently reinstalled Mandrake 7.1 after two months with
 very little trouble.Emails sent to AOL addresses get returned
 with the following message:
 
 "
 This is the Postfix program at host localhost.localdomain.
 
 I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
 below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
 
 For further assistance, please contact
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
 delete your own text from the message returned below.
 
 The Postfix program
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: host zb.mx.aol.com[152.163.224.33] refused
 to talk to me:
 550 DIRECT CONNECTION FROM DIAL-UP OR DYNAMIC-IP DENIED"
 
 Everything else works great and I didn't have trouble sending
 messages to friends using AOL before I reinstalled  7.1.  Any
 ideas?
 
 My system:  dual boot with W98.  AMD500,  64 Meg RAM,   10 Gig
 Hard.  ISA Modem  Thanks, Michael E.
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: [newbie] mail-client software

2000-09-16 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

Paul wrote:
 
 On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, pungki wrote:
 
 Hi everybody
 Is there any mail-client software besides Messenger or KMail ?
 Thanks.
 
 Pine, Mutt, Mahogany, Balsa, to name a few...
 
 Paul
 
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Re: [newbie] 2nd hardrive follow up

2000-09-16 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

markOpoleO wrote:
 
 Ok i got a second hardrive for linux, had 7.0 installed on it but some
 reason is said Kernel was corrupt, so i get 7.1 in mail and when i try to
 boot up from CD it just goes to LILO and not the CD, how the heck do I
 format my linux drive so i can do fresh install on 7.1?
 
 markOpoleO

You need to change the boot sequence in the bios.  When your computer
boots, at the first screen it will give you the option, probably by
pressing "Delete" to enter setup mode.  When there, you have to look
around for the place where you can change the sequence of boot devices
so that your CDROM is first. Then you can boot from the CD.  You are
going to LILO because your HD is listed first.  When you are through
installing, you can change back.  Actually, a good default sequence is
A, HD, and then CDROM, if that is an option.  The computer will look for
a boot record on the floppy drive, not find it and go to the HD to boot,
unless you need to use a boot disc, and then you are all set.  Exactly
where you will find this setting depends on your Bios.  

Hope this helps.  Don J.

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[newbie] 7.1 install funkiness

2000-09-15 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

I saw another posting about a problem with 7.2 beta 1 not wanting to get past
the partition check on the installation.  Well, I had the same problem with the
"stable" version of 7.1, for which I paid far too much money apparently.  I go
through the whole process of making my partitions on a totally blank new HD,
and when I proceed to the formatting screen, I get a cryptic message about
"mount" failing because of invalid arguments.  Well, since I didn't provide any
arguments, I'm at a loss as to what makes the difference.  I was able to
install 7.0 all right.  I'm debating trying to upgrade to 7.1 now that I have
7.0 running, but I remember how long that took last time I tried it, and how
partially successful it was.  When I was done, it never booted to the new
kernel, even though the vmlinuz link in /boot pointed to 2.2.15-4.  Still
booted 2.2.14-15.  

Any ideas?  

Thanks!  Don J.

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Re: [newbie] DISCUSSION (Documentation)

2000-05-26 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

I installed 7.0 on a second hard disc, and the key seems to have been that
there were already Linux partitions on the second hard disc--it was already
ext2.  If you establish at least one ext2 partition on the second HD, I
think Mandrake will find it.  All the distros I haved tried seem to do it.

Don J.
- Original Message -
From: Edison Gica [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 1:45 PM
Subject: [newbie] DISCUSSION (Documentation)


 I have not yet installed 7.0 coz I'm still reading the stuff on
 installation.

 My comment is in the documentation (Installation Manual).  It only
explains
 or presumes that the user has only one hard disk and that if the option
 'Custom' or 'Expert' is installed it is again presumed that the user knows
 what to do.

 Now in my case, I have 2 hard disks and found out from the demos in the
web
 that I have to go to either 'Custom' or 'Expert' installation to be able
to
 install 7.0 in my second hard disk w/c I want to do.

 I'm a newbie (obviously :) ) and if I have not read those I would have
 accidentally used the 'Normal' installation and it would go and shrink my
 Win partition (!) w/c I would not want to happen.

 A well organized installation procedure posted in the web site would be
 great if printing a bulky manual is not considered economical.

 Thanks for letting us users give feedback. Hey, this is one great way to
 compete with MS so this should be done more often. No sleep guys :D

 edison


 
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Re: [newbie] HD problems during install - cylinder 1024

2000-05-26 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

The boot loader can't be installed on a partition that goes beyond cylinder
1024.  I believe one solution is to make a small boot partition that is at
the very first of the the HD on which Linux is to be installed.

Don J.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:10 PM
Subject: [newbie] HD problems during install - cylinder 1024


 Installing: Mandrake 7.0 Complete on a 5GB partition
 Running: Windows 98
 WD 15 GB 7200RPM HD

 When trying to install BootMagic, it says it cannot install since the
 partition is beyond cylinder 1024. I have the same problem using DiskDrake
 and LILO (LILO won't install due to this problem). Any suggestions?
 
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Re: [newbie] staroffice as user

2000-05-22 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

No.  I think you can chown the soffice binary to user and it will run as 
user.  I know I had the same problem in the past and was able to solve it 
without a reinstall.  Try that first.

Don J.

At 03:38 AM 5/19/00 +0200, you wrote:
David Olsson wrote:

  I installed staroffice as root, now I cant access staroffice
  as user.
  How do I do?
 
  David in Sweden

Hey David
You will have to install it 'again' when you are logged in as user.
Mogens Jæger






Re: [newbie] staroffice as user

2000-05-22 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

It should be /home/user/Office51/bin/soffice, as I recall.


Don J.

At 07:27 PM 5/18/00 +0200, you wrote:
On Thu, 18 May 2000, David Olsson wrote:

 I installed staroffice as root, now I cant access staroffice
 as user.
 How do I do?
 
 David in Sweden

Locate the binary that starts StarOffice (so51 or something, in a 'bin'
directory of the staroffice install, if I remember correctly), and do a

chmod u+x filename

on it. I think that should do it.

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Michael-Pine

2000-05-17 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins



At 07:02 PM 5/16/00 +0200, you wrote:

I use Pine, too, along with Getmail.  I like Getmail because it will 
deliver my Pop3 messages directly to my inbox, and then Pine can pick them 
up.  It also appears to me that Pine can be configured to use SMTP to send 
messages out directly through my ISP, as that is the way it is working for 
me.  Which is a good thing, as I can't get Mutt to send, and it works in 
conjunction with Postfix/Sendmail.  The only thing I would really like 
Fetchmail for is its polling ability, but there again, I can't get it to 
work, as it also works with Postfix/Sendmail, and I have no idea where the 
messages are ending up with Fetchmail.  Not the inbox.  Do you know if 
there is any way for Getmail to poll the server periodically or run ad a 
daemon?  I guess its beauty is its simplicity.  I like Pine, too because it 
is easy to read, it will open URL's either in Netscape or Lynx, and I can 
do everything without moving my hands from the keyboard.

Don J.

On Tue, 16 May 2000, Michael wrote:

 Paul,
 Thanks for the heads up. I only venture forth into Bill's world when
 forced. So you use Pine, eh? I am comfortable with NS' mail program;
 guess if comfort was my criterion I wouldn't be on this list, though, so
 where would you point me to in terms of help files, to be able to get it
 (Pine)up and running?

Hi Michael,

First off: Pine is not graphical. It is all text-based although in a
konsole-window it reacts to mouse clicks (reall neat). I picked pine
because I don't want colored backgrounds and music and jumping images in
my mail. I am colorblind, and most of the colored background stuff makes
it impossible for me to read the actual mail.

Pine is a Mail User Agent. That means you use it to type mail and tell it
to dump it somewhere. Then a Mail Transport Agent picks up the mail and
sends it out.
NS Mail does this all for you, it directly connects to SMTP and POP
servers.

For MTA you have several choices:

Sendmail (standard in the package, but see the "Sendmail in a nutshell"
and be scared)
   -used ver much, terrible (for me) to configure
Qmail (www.qmail.org)
   -Easier to install (although that gave me some extra grey hairs too) and
apparently more safe than Sendmail. ALthough for 1 person, that is not a
big deal I guess.

To pull mail from a server you can either use FETCHMAIL (standard in the
package) or Getmail (which I use)

Now you know this, decide if you want to venture into Pine or Mutt (also
text based) and let the world know...

Paul

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[newbie] getmail/mutt-partial success

2000-05-06 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

I recently downloaded a small program called getmail, a simpler
substitute for fetchmail, and I got it working pretty much.  I wrote a
script that fetches the mail from my pop account and deposits it into
the correct folder /var/spool/mail/$USER.  Mutt reads it all fine, and
then I compose and send a reply or a new message, and Mutt seems to send
it, or says it does.  But I don't see the messages arriving where they
are sent, and I'm at a loss as to where they are going.  My system uses
Postfix, and I'm not sure if it could be a Postfix config problem or
something else.  Is there a queue somewhere that eats the messages?  I
don't see them in any outbox or sent-mail box.  It is bemusing, because
it used to be the other way around--I could send OK, but Fetchmail
didn't seem to be putting the messages anywhere.  I have to say that
Mutt was working fast doing whatever it was doing.  I need to figure out
why Getmail leaves the messages on the server when I supposedly am
supplying the -d option for deleting them.

Later, Don J.

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Re: [newbie] Can someone answer me these questions three

2000-05-04 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins


You don't have to touch hda with your Windows 98 on it.  You will be asked
to create Linux partitions, which you must be sure you are doing on your
second drive, hdb, or whatever it turns out to be.  Be sure that when you
do your partitioning and formatting that you are working with the space on
hdb and not hda.  The only thing that your installation procedure will do
that may involve your Windows partition is when you get to the part about
installing lilo, the boot loader.  You will get the opportunity to chose
whether to install it in the MBR on the Windows partition,  or on the first
partition (/boot) on your Linux drive.  If you don't mind having Lilo
manage booting up for both Windows and Linux, you can chose the first way.
Or if you don't mind booting from a floppy all the time, you can chose the
second way.  A third way, which I use is to have a separate boot manager,
Boot Magic in my case, that manages both systems and gives you the
opportunity to chose either at boot up.  But Lilo does this, too.  Other
than Lilo, don't do anything to your Windows disc at all.

Don J.

On Wed, 03 May 2000, Tim Schmidt wrote:
 Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 17:29:01 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Can someone answer me these questions three
 
 
 I hope someone can help me on these Mandrake installation problems.
 
 First, I'm trying to install 7.0 on a second hard drive with windows 98
 on
 the first one.  Someone told me in order for Lilo to work I have to
 reformat
 hda and answer yes for large disk support and no for no for using the
 whole
 disk.  Is this true?  I'd like to be sure before I mess with it.
 
 My second and third questions have to do with installing 7.0 on a IBM
 Thinkpad 380E.  When installing it tries to check the pcmcia cards then I
 get
 "An error occurred: insmod pcmcia core failed"
 How do I fix this?   Last but not least if I skip checking for pcmcia
 cards
 it goes a little farther before I get " No available partition" even
 though I
 used fdisk and format.  How can I fix this problem?
 
 Much thanks for any help given.
 
 Tim Schmidt
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Don: About moving /usr and /home (fwd)

2000-05-01 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins


I had to alter a few things, but essentially, it worked pretty well.  I
found that what I needed to do was to make a switch between /usr, which is
huge, and /home, which is not quite so huge.  I finally had to just make
all the switches and hope for the best, as there wasn't enough room to save
/usr.old and do everything else, too.  But so far, things seem to be
working.  I moved /usr to the second hard drive where it sits all alone on
its big partition, and I moved /home to the main hard drive.  I'll let you
know if anything else crops up, as things tend to do at atimes.  But for
now, thanks a lot!  

Don J.

On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Paul wrote:
 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:26:58 +0200 (CEST)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Don: About moving /usr and /home (fwd)
 
 
 Hi Don,
 This is one of the mails I got to help me in this, and it worked all
 great. Hope it helps you too!
 
 Paul
 
 )0(---)0(
 
 The fear of death keeps us from living,
 not from dying...
 
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 http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208
 Registered Linux User 174403
 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:03:10 +0200
 From: flupke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Moving usr and home
 
 Paul wrote:
  
  Hi all,
  
  Now I am in need of an answer.
  I have /usr and /home as subdirectories on the / (root) partition. This
 is
  a 1.6 Gb partition.
  Now I got 2 large partitions extra available, 4 and 4.5 Gb. I want to
 move
  /usr to one of them, and /home to the other one.
  These extra partitions now are called /b1 and /b2.
  Can someone tell me how I should go about with this, without messing up
 my
  entire system?
  
  Thanks for the help and advice you can give me.
  Paul
 
 First of all, if you're not confident with linux, read the whole mail
 before proceeding, and make sure you understand everything (if you
 don't, read the related man pages). I mean, don't do it "blindly".
 
 Let's say your / partition is on /dev/hda1 and you want to move /usr to
 /dev/hda2.
 
 All the following should be done ad root, so TAKE CARE AND THINK TWICE
 BEFORE HITTING YOUR 'ENTER' KEY!
 You should take one more precaution by going into single user mode (by
 typing "init 1") before doing this. Ok. Here we go.
 
 - First, you create a ext2 file system on /dev/hda2 with mke2fs.
   mke2fs /dev/hda2
 
 - Then you mount this partition. (Let's say in /mnt/tmp)
   mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/tmp
 
 - You now have to transfer your /usr to /mnt/tmp. To do this, I'd use a
 command as :
   (cd /usr  tar cpf - .) | (cd /mnt/tmp  tar xpf -)
 
 Once this is done, rename your /usr directory (for instance in
 /usr.old), create a new /usr directory, umount your /dev/hda2 partition,
 and remount it into /usr.
   mv /usr /usr.old
   mkdir /usr
   umount /mnt/tmp
   mount /dev/hda2 /usr
 
 Finaly, update your /etc/fstab and add the line :
 /dev/hda2/usr  ext2defaults1 2
 
 Voila! You're done!
 
 Useless to say that you do exactly the same for your /home partition.
 
 To go back to your previous runlevel, type init 3 (console login) or
 init 5 (graphical login).
 ONCE YOU'VE SEEN THAT YOUR NEWLY CREATED PARTITIONS ARE OK, you can
 delete your /usr.old and /home.old directories.
 
 If you need more infos, take a look at the Hard-disk-upgrade mini-HOWTO
 
 HTH
 Flupke
 
 
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Re: [newbie] ISP

2000-05-01 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins


Found it: 

http://www.teledyn.com/products/FreeWWW/

Good luck!  

Don J.

On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, "Don W. Jenkins" wrote:
 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 14:59:42 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: "Don W. Jenkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP
 
 One I have used and it works pretty well is freewwweb.com.  I'm not sure
 of 
 the url for the sign-up page, but I'll post it when I find it.  This one
 is 
 good, because you don't need any software.  You sign up and get a pop3 
 account and a phone number to configure your dialer or scripts with.
 
 Don J.
 
 At 05:22 PM 4/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
 Also another i saw with no ads but havent used http://www.isps-free.com/
 - Original Message -
 From: doom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 5:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP
 
 
   yes there is.i have not tryed it though yet.cause its beta heh.it is
 called
   freenet.check it out. http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ if you try it
 tell
 me
   what you think.
  
  
   ===
   You know you've been hacking too long when...
   ...your digital alarm clock goes off and you think "Bloody Macs!"
   ===
   - Original Message -
   From: "The Buckster" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 4:52 PM
   Subject: [newbie] ISP
  
  
Is there any free ISP's that I can use with Mandrake? I know that
 there's
quite a few for Windows enviroment, including FreeISP.com that will
 be a
   DSL
connection... Appreciate the help!
   
_
NetZero - Defenders of the Free World
Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email
http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
   
   
  
   _
   NetZero - Defenders of the Free World
   Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email
   http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
  
  
 
 _
 NetZero - Defenders of the Free World
 Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email
 http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] ISP

2000-05-01 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins



Actually, I have stayed on longer than 5 hours, so I'm not sure how they
keep track of your time--by the day or by the month.  But it is fairly easy
to get two or three accounts and then switch off from one day to the next
or even the same day.  

No reason to pay.

Don J.

On Mon, 1 May 2000, Michelle Schneider wrote:
 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:29:45 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Michelle Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP
 
 On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, you wrote:
  One I have used and it works pretty well is freewwweb.com.  I'm not
 sure of 
  the url for the sign-up page, but I'll post it when I find it.  This
 one is 
  good, because you don't need any software.  You sign up and get a pop3 
  account and a phone number to configure your dialer or scripts with.
  
  Don J.
 
 It's www.freewwweb.com.  You have to have there home page set as the home
 page
 of your browser.  You cannot stay on more than5 hours at a time or 80
 hours a
 month, but they allow you to open multiple accounts.
 
 Michelle
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Don: About moving /usr and /home (fwd)

2000-04-30 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

Thanks!  I'll be giving it a try and let you know how it flies.  There may 
be an added complication/ step as the empty partition is mounted at /home 
at the moment, but I'll sort that out before I start.

Don J.

At 08:26 AM 4/30/00 +0200, you wrote:

Hi Don,
This is one of the mails I got to help me in this, and it worked all
great. Hope it helps you too!

Paul

)0(---)0(

The fear of death keeps us from living,
not from dying...

)0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0(
http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208
Registered Linux User 174403
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:03:10 +0200
From: flupke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Moving usr and home

Paul wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  Now I am in need of an answer.
  I have /usr and /home as subdirectories on the / (root) partition. This is
  a 1.6 Gb partition.
  Now I got 2 large partitions extra available, 4 and 4.5 Gb. I want to move
  /usr to one of them, and /home to the other one.
  These extra partitions now are called /b1 and /b2.
  Can someone tell me how I should go about with this, without messing up my
  entire system?
 
  Thanks for the help and advice you can give me.
  Paul

First of all, if you're not confident with linux, read the whole mail
before proceeding, and make sure you understand everything (if you
don't, read the related man pages). I mean, don't do it "blindly".

Let's say your / partition is on /dev/hda1 and you want to move /usr to
/dev/hda2.

All the following should be done ad root, so TAKE CARE AND THINK TWICE
BEFORE HITTING YOUR 'ENTER' KEY!
You should take one more precaution by going into single user mode (by
typing "init 1") before doing this. Ok. Here we go.

- First, you create a ext2 file system on /dev/hda2 with mke2fs.
 mke2fs /dev/hda2

- Then you mount this partition. (Let's say in /mnt/tmp)
 mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/tmp

- You now have to transfer your /usr to /mnt/tmp. To do this, I'd use a
command as :
 (cd /usr  tar cpf - .) | (cd /mnt/tmp  tar xpf -)

Once this is done, rename your /usr directory (for instance in
/usr.old), create a new /usr directory, umount your /dev/hda2 partition,
and remount it into /usr.
 mv /usr /usr.old
 mkdir /usr
 umount /mnt/tmp
 mount /dev/hda2 /usr

Finaly, update your /etc/fstab and add the line :
/dev/hda2/usr  ext2defaults1 2

Voila! You're done!

Useless to say that you do exactly the same for your /home partition.

To go back to your previous runlevel, type init 3 (console login) or
init 5 (graphical login).
ONCE YOU'VE SEEN THAT YOUR NEWLY CREATED PARTITIONS ARE OK, you can
delete your /usr.old and /home.old directories.

If you need more infos, take a look at the Hard-disk-upgrade mini-HOWTO

HTH
Flupke





Re: [newbie] ISP

2000-04-30 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

One I have used and it works pretty well is freewwweb.com.  I'm not sure of 
the url for the sign-up page, but I'll post it when I find it.  This one is 
good, because you don't need any software.  You sign up and get a pop3 
account and a phone number to configure your dialer or scripts with.

Don J.

At 05:22 PM 4/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
Also another i saw with no ads but havent used http://www.isps-free.com/
- Original Message -
From: doom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] ISP


  yes there is.i have not tryed it though yet.cause its beta heh.it is
called
  freenet.check it out. http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ if you try it tell
me
  what you think.
 
 
  ===
  You know you've been hacking too long when...
  ...your digital alarm clock goes off and you think "Bloody Macs!"
  ===
  - Original Message -
  From: "The Buckster" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 4:52 PM
  Subject: [newbie] ISP
 
 
   Is there any free ISP's that I can use with Mandrake? I know that
there's
   quite a few for Windows enviroment, including FreeISP.com that will be a
  DSL
   connection... Appreciate the help!
  
   _
   NetZero - Defenders of the Free World
   Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email
   http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
  
  
 
  _
  NetZero - Defenders of the Free World
  Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email
  http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
 
 

_
NetZero - Defenders of the Free World
Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email
http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html





Re: [newbie] Moved /usr and /home!

2000-04-29 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins


I haven't been following this thread closely, but I have been having what
must be similar problems with space, as my / partition is full, and I must
do something or I won't be able to save or create new docs or print or
stuff like that.  I have two hard drives involved.  On one, I have a /boot
partition of 18,000k, and a swap partition of 131,000k, and lastly a /
partition of 1.5 gigs, which contains everything except /home.  The /
partition is full.  On a second hard drive, sharing space with a FAT32
partition, I have an EXT2 partition that contains /home, and that has about
1.2 gigs free.  I have attempted to simply copy my /usr directory to /home
and link it up with a symlink, and that worked for a lot of things, but I
discovered that things got dropped on the way, so odd stuff would happen,
like no backspace on the keyboard.  I also tried the whole process of
creating new mount points and remounting directories, but that caused even
worse side effects.  

So, HDA1 is Windows
HDA3 is /home with 1.2 gigs free.  mounts at /mnt/DOS_hda3
HDC1 is /boot
HDC2 is swap
HDC3 is /(everything else)

I need to move whole file systems around and still have things work.  I
would appreciate feedback as to the surest way to accomplish this without
destroying my system.  

Thanks!  Don J.

On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Paul wrote:
 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 09:52:11 +0200 (CEST)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Moved /usr and /home!
 
 Hi all,
 
 Thanks for the great advice on my question, I have just moved /usr and
 /home to the new partitions, and it all went without a problem.
 
 Paul
 
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Re: [newbie] HTML Editor

2000-04-28 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

I installed Coffecup, and I like the interface, which resembles Homesite
in some ways.  However, unless you purchase, most of the goodies are
disabled, so I can't comment on that.  Are you having problems with the
install.  It's been a while, but I don't recall any.

Don J.

Martin Solms wrote:

 Does Mandrake 7 include a default HTML editor (not including Netsape)?

 then, has anyone had any luck installing CoffeeCup
 (http://www.coffeecup.com) on Mandrake?

 Cheers

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Re: [newbie] HTML Editor

2000-04-28 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

Bluefish is a good one, too, with fewer bells and whistles than Coffecup,
but it does use Weblint to check your HTML for you.  Another possibility is
AsWedit, although I would chose Bluefish over that as far as the free
editors.

Don J.

Mike  Tracy Holt wrote:

 Download bluefish from ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker
 You'll have to check both the cooker and contrib RPMS because I can't
 remember which one it's in.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Martin Solms" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 12:46 AM
 Subject: [newbie] HTML Editor

  Does Mandrake 7 include a default HTML editor (not including Netsape)?
 
  then, has anyone had any luck installing CoffeeCup
  (http://www.coffeecup.com) on Mandrake?
 
  Cheers
 

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Re: [newbie] fetchmail and pine

2000-04-28 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

I'm sorry I can't offer an answer, but I just wanted echo your frustration.  I have
had the identical problem with
fetchmail--I have no idea where the messages are going, so there is no way to use pine
or mutt to any advantage.
No one so far has seemed to know what is going on.  So I will add my plea for help.

Don J.

Jeff wrote:

 ok ive been trying to configure fetchmail an pine and im having some
 difficulty..  i have pine sending msg's and im recieving them fine but
 fetchmail isnt putting my msg's in /var/spool/mail/LeadingEdge  i dont know
 where its puttibng them but ive lost quite a few msg's since i started messing
 with it..

 ok heres what i did ..
 first i ran fetchmailconf and got it running.  fetchmail seems to be running
 good it downloads mesg's but not to /var/spool/mail/LeadingEdge so im thinking
 maybe its the file permissions getting in the way.  so i do
 "chmod a+rw /var/spool/mail/LeadingEdge" so now everyone on the box has read
 write permission to that file, but that doesnt matter as im the only one on
 here..  still no good the mesg's im downloading just arent in there.  instead
 of running fetchmail in daemon mode at this point im just using fetchmail to
 check once when i type the command cause ive lost alot of mail and have no idea
 if anything there was important..

 ok and for pine i got it set up and it sends msgs but of course cant read the
 mail cause nothing is in /var/spool/mail/LeadingEdge

 heres the config files

 (sorry this is so long i just wanna be detailed)

 -fetchmail--
 # Configuration created Fri Apr 28 23:23:53 2000 by fetchmailconf
 set postmaster "LeadingEdge"
 set bouncemail
 set properties ""
 poll mail.nccw.net with proto POP3
user "Leading_Edge" there is Leading_Edge here
 -end fetchmail

 ---pine-
 # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine.
 personal-name=Jeff

 # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail.
 user-domain=kmfms.com

 # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail.
 smtp-server=mail.nccw.net

 # NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading.
 nntp-server=news.nccw.net

 # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox
 # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER).
 inbox-path=

 # List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox
 # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path
 incoming-folders=

 # List of directories where saved-message folders may be. First one is
 # the default for Saves. Example: Main {host1}mail/[], Desktop mail\[]
 # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}optnl-directory-path[]
 folder-collections=

 # List, only needed if nntp-server not set, or news is on a different host
 # than used for NNTP posting. Examples: News *[] or News *{host3/nntp}[]
 # Syntax: optnl-label *{news-host/protocol}[]
 news-collections=

 # List of folder pairs; the first indicates a folder to archive, and the
 # second indicates the folder read messages in the first should
 # be moved to.
 incoming-archive-folders=

 # List of context and folder pairs, delimited by a space, to be offered for
 # pruning each month.  For example: {host1}mail/[] mumble
 pruned-folders=

 # Over-rides default path for sent-mail folder, e.g. =old-mail (using first
 # folder collection dir) or ={host2}sent-mail or ="" (to suppress saving).
 # Default: sent-mail (Unix) or SENTMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection.
 default-fcc=

 # Over-rides default path for saved-msg folder, e.g. =saved-messages (using first
 # folder collection dir) or ={host2}saved-mail or ="" (to suppress saving).
 # Default: saved-messages (Unix) or SAVEMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection.
 default-saved-msg-folder=

 # Over-rides default path for postponed messages folder, e.g. =pm (which uses
 # first folder collection dir) or ={host4}pm (using home dir on host4).
 # Default: postponed-msgs (Unix) or POSTPOND.MTX (PC) in default fldr coltn.
 postponed-folder=

 # If set, specifies where already-read messages will be moved upon quitting.
 read-message-folder=

 # If set, specifies where form letters should be stored.
 form-letter-folder=

 # Over-rides default path for signature file. Default is ~/.signature
 signature-file=
 ---i think this should be enuff-

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Re: [newbie] Netscape 6 knows its name not

2000-04-28 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

I believe that in order to run Netscape 6, you have to cd to the directory it
is installed in and then type ./netscape.  It is still in development, and I
guess it needs to be run from its own directory.

Don J.

Vic wrote:

 I tried installing Netscape 6 and went straight back to
 Netscape 472 because when I would either click my
 netscape icon, or type netscape or-- /usr/local/package/(name of binary)
 or whatever the whole path was, it still did not know its own name.

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Re: [newbie] Problems with IWheel

2000-04-24 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

Dropping in on this thread, as I have never been able to get imwheel to
work, either.  I don't have a /home/user directory.  Should I create one?
Where is my autostart folder supposed to be located?

Thanks!  Don J.

Michael Holt wrote:

 You need to add these lines to your /etc/X11/XF86Config file under the
 pointer section:

 Buttons 3
 ZAxisMapping4 5

 Then comment out (with the # symbol) the lines:

 Emulate3Buttons
 Emulate3Timeout

 Next, drop a copy of /etc/X11/imwheelrc into your /home/user directory
 and put a copy of /usr/X11R6/bin/imwheel into your autostart folder and
 use the -k option.

 i.e. 'imwheel -k'

 Mike

 Hawk82 wrote:
 
  I downloaded IWheel from the Mandrake ftps and installed it.
  It is a rpm, so I figured that is all I had to do.
 
  It does not work.
  I can't scroll though web pages.
 
  Thanks for the help.
 
  Josh

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[newbie] DOS naming vs Linux recognition

2000-04-21 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

I have a question regarding the  DOS convention of naming files with
spaces, such as C:\Program Files.  When I use a program like Wine, Linux
can't follow a path that includes spaces, so I'm wondering if there is a
way to write the file names so Linux can recognize them, or do I have to
copy the programs to folders and give them names that don't include
spaces?

Thanks!  Don J.

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Re: [newbie] MS Word

2000-04-19 Per discussione Don W. Jenkins

Star Office from Sun will read Word documents.  I use it for that reason.
Hint, though, don't save the word docs as rtf, but as .docs, as it works
better.  Star Office is a huge download, but it is free.

Don J.

Martin Solms wrote:

 I am looking for software that can open Word documents - I don't want to
 keep rebooting to read my bosses documents!!

 Thanks

 Martin

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