RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Winter Storage...

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

As a battery salesman i cant say enough good about  a true battery tender. I 
have seen that people that use a tender regularly will get 3-5 years of extra 
life out of there battery. Dont wait the 20 days, hook it up every time you 
pull it into the garage.

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Here's my two cents...

1) A full tank of gas limits condensation buildup in the tank, even more 
important when temperatures vary.
2) Sta Bil or seafoam treatment to keep the fuel stable longer
3) Drain the carbs before parking, I do this by simply turning off the fuel 
about a half mile from home and then running it dry.
4) A battery tender is an option, but I don't recommend it unless you are 
parking it for more than 20 days at a time. There's a trick to determining 
whats right here, you do not want your voltage dropping below 12.4 volts, its 
my understanding that at that point you may have lost half your CCA or cold 
cranking amps. deep charging cycles can be hard on the battery, one tip is to 
minimize the discharge by not letting it go too long without recharge. Letting 
your battery die is the worst thing you can do to it. Secondly fast charging 
afterwards is equally as hard, if you do let a battery die, the safest way to 
bring it back is to trickle charge it back. I've learned these tips partly by 
talking with technicians, and in part by having one of my responsibilities be 
maintaining a 20 ton battery plant at my office. Frankly I will ride at least 5 
days in December and January and I think that bridges my tender need, so far 
anyway.
Mike

 

 

-Original Message-
From: John L 
To: nighthawk_lovers 
Sent: Fri, Sep 28, 2012 6:51 pm
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Winter Storage...


Does anyone actually store their bike for winter ?

So I live in Indiana, and there might be days in the winter where its above 50 
Degree's..

I have my bike in a garage, and it maintains a constant temp, (as long as the 
doors closed)...   

its a 85' 650 CC..

what do you guys recommend ?

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Wheelies

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I dont see that much in central florida, i imagine its a bigger issue in miami 
(while typing this out on my phone at work i have heard 3 "weed wackers" drive 
by)



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In Florida they added a specific penalty for getting a wheel off the ground
(wheelie or stoppie) and it's an $1100 ticket. I think the only ticket
worse is DUI.

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals

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Im with you there. I want to be seen!



---Original Message---
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Sent: 9/20/2012 8:11 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals

Am I really the only person in the world who doesn't have a raging boner
for tiny turn signals? Seriously, I'd like some decent looking, GOOD SIZED
turn signals. None of this 1" diameter round or smaller, or 1" or less
length arrows. None of this "mini" nonsense.

G.


-Kurt

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Honda 550 Nighthawk

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I hate to burst your bubble but agm battries are still lead acid. The diffrence 
between an agm and a flooded (what you call lead acid) ir that the agm 
(absorbed glass mat) has fiberglas mats soaked with electrolite (acid) between 
the lead plates and the flooded only has liquid between the plates... These are 
both diffrent then a gell But il save that for the next episode of 'know 
your battery!'



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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Honda 550 Nighthawk

yea that sounds about as good as shes gonna get.  did ya get a agm battery
i hope?  i quit using lead acid batteries years ago.  one mor thing?  you
could try swapping your original volt/reg back in to see if it makes a
difference?  it probably wasn't bad.  then you would have a spare later if
needed.

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Ethanol...a ruse.

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+1 Kurt



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Ethanol...a ruse.

... Keeping my mouth shut, keeping my mouth shut, keeping my mouth shut...

Kurt
On Aug 28, 2012 7:40 PM, "Pr Ron"  wrote:

>  I recently talked to a friend who lives near where they combine the
> ethanol with the gas.  He said, that stuff is very corrosive.  Long term it
> is going to do damage.  He said a guy he knows that works there. They found
> the thick rubber hose that moves the ethanol would only last a
> month…because it is so corrosive.  They had to switch to stainless steel
> lined cable.   What he also said that *of all* the blends the premium has
> the least ethanol to get the correct octane.  And now with the corn
> shortage there is virtually none in the premium.  
>
> ** **
>
> My thought, I am not going to ruin my vehicles with that, if I don’t have
> to.  I can only imagine what that corrosive stuff does to the rubber parts
> and o rings in the carburetors.  I am sure everyone will have a different
> opinion, a cost vs. condition of your bike, but I just wanted to share this
> info with you.  My buddy Harley friend tried to tell me this 6 months ago,
> but I didn’t get it. The question is how long till the serious damage
> starts to show up. 
>
> Ron
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Allen Thomas
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 25, 2012 8:12 AM
> *To:* Nightwawk Lovers
> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: changing brake fluid?
>
> ** **
>
> +1 blead the clutch it may be the source of your tranny issues.
>
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> *From: *Kurt Nolte  
>
> *Sender: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com 
>
> *Date: *Fri, 24 Aug 2012 23:52:59 -0400
>
> *To: *
>
> *ReplyTo: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com 
>
> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: changing brake fluid?
>
> ** **
>
> This is on a 650? You should bleed both calipers, each in turn. 
>
> ** **
>
> On the 650, there should be a bleed valve on the left side of the bike, on
> a cylinder shaped thing just above the engine case. You are correct, there
> is a clutch master cylinder and it is on the handlebars, you bleed the
> clutch much the same way you bleed the brakes. 
>
> ** **
>
> -Kurt
>
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Gibs  wrote:*
> ***
>
> So I just changed it... I hope I did it right, it works answer it's a more
> responsive I think. I only drained it from one caliper though, is it
> supposed to work like that? Also I looked in the clutch master cylinder (or
> wtvr the lil box next to the clutch is called) and its all brown and not
> clear, how do I change that?
>I took it out to test the brakes and make sure it runs normal, and
> found the shifting got really weird and all of a sudden it's hard to shift
> down. I also started hear a sort of rattling noise as it revs around 3k rpm
> or more :-( what's going on??
>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN!

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

I have a tent big enough to sleep 12... And still have room to work on the 
bikes inside! But u have to come to florida to pick it up



---Original Message---
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Sent: 8/26/2012 9:44 am
To: "Nightwawk Lovers" 
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN!

That's probably for the best, you have never heard Jason snore. Sounds like a 
bunch of hogs fighting.
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From: Javier Garcia 
Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:18:32 
To: 
Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN!

LOL! Not really, it bearly sleeps 2, but i have another one you can borrow.

Javier.
On Aug 26, 2012 9:07 AM, "Allen Thomas"  wrote:

> I didn't ask if the SLEEPING BAG slept 3. Jeesh!
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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> *From: * Graham Rogers 
> *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Date: *Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:01:45 -0400
> *To: *
> *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN!
>
> no comment
>
> On Aug 26, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Allen Thomas wrote:
>
> Does your tent sleep 3?
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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> *From: * Javier Garcia 
> *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Date: *Sun, 26 Aug 2012 08:54:56 -0400
> *To: *
> *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN!
>
> I got all my camping gear so I'm ready to roll.
> On Aug 26, 2012 7:52 AM, "Allen Thomas"  wrote:
>
>> Can we camp in the yard? That's a long day trip, and there are some nice
>> roads out your way.
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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>> *From: * Graham Rogers 
>> *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> *Date: *Sun, 26 Aug 2012 03:22:05 -0400
>> *To: *
>> *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN!
>>
>> I'm in, I'm in!
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2012, at 12:59 AM, Jason King wrote:
>>
>> Pack the bikes, its time to ride!
>> On Aug 25, 2012 11:16 PM, "Javier Garcia"  wrote:
>>
>>> Oh oh... Blinker party time?
>>> On Aug 25, 2012 11:05 PM, "paul annen"  wrote:
>>>
 do i smell a blinker party i wish i could come

 On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:

> **
> BTW, good job on the wiring diagram, you may have already helped out
> Graham.
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> *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Date: *Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:04:35 -0400
> *To: *
> *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN ALLEN!
>
> Not dense, just underpracticed. After all, you didn't ask what a
> continuity check is. :p
>
> Kurt
> On Aug 25, 2012 4:02 PM, "Graham Rogers" 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Kurt, as you can tell, I'mm a little dense when it comes to
>> wiring.  I'm done for today.  I'll pick it up again tomorrow,  Graham
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote:
>>
>> I'd still throw a meter on those wires. If it helps, my colorized
>> wiring harness for the 650 is done.
>>
>> Kurt
>> On Aug 25, 2012 3:51 PM, "Graham Rogers" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> all bulbs are good,  I just changed the whole left handle bar
>>> controls which includes all the wires to the turn signals and the fuse
>>> block harness - no change.
>>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:
>>>
>>> Oops sorry, Kurt's is sound, I'd also add to try a known good set of
>>> bulbs.
>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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>>> *From: * Graham Rogers 
>>> *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>>> *Date: *Sat, 25 Aug 2012 14:48:32 -0400
>>> *To: *
>>> *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signal problems - AGAIN
>>> ALLEN!
>>>
>>> thanks Kurt
>>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote:
>>>
>>> Hum. Not sure then. It must be wiring related, and to take out all
>>> four it must be in the common preswitch wiring. Assuming your fuses are
>>> good, I suspect a break but not a short; continuity check the wiring 
>>> from
>>> fuse to relay and from relay to switch.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>> On Aug 25, 2012 2:38 PM, "Graham Rogers" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 No, I switch relays

 On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote:

 Bad turn signal relay, perhaps? The signal relay provides power to
 the switch intermittently, so a bad relay could make for no turn 
>>

RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turbo Diesel sport bike

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Couldent have said it better myself



---Original Message---
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Sent: 8/20/2012 8:18 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turbo Diesel sport bike

Adventure bikes are usually twins. Dual Sports are the thumpers (F800, DRZ,
KLX, that sort).

Touring bikes and cruisers definitely make the most sense for the entry
into the market. The market is HUGE, torque is valued, fuel economy is
valued, raw power not so much. Entry price into some of them is high enough
that you could roll the cost of the engine into it with only a small bump.
Extra weight doesn't matter so much, as long as they (the touring bikes)
can still be loaded up for the road, which the diesel would permit.

-Kurt

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> **
> Or even adventure type bikes since they are usually thumpers.
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] My wife's Motorcycle safety class

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

And in florda



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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] My wife's Motorcycle safety class

Now Required for license in Texas.

Thank you,

Ross M. Jamison
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On Aug 15, 2012, at 9:34 AM, "Allen Thomas"  wrote:

> Explain that she will feel more comfortable riding after the class, and that 
> insurance will be cheaper.
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> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:57:18 -0500
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> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] My wife's Motorcycle safety class
> 
> She needs to /want/ to take the class. My wife said that some of the ladies 
> in her class were only there because their husbands told them to take it. You 
> could tell that they didn't want to be there.
> So you need to get her to want to take the class. From my experience, your 
> wife will need to hear it from someone that isn't you before she'll believe 
> it :)
> That's how it works for me...
> 
> On Aug 15, 2012, at 6:38, Michael Curran  wrote:
> 
>> I'm still trying to talk my wife into taking the class, any tips you can 
>> share on that subject? :-)
>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus
>> 
>> aspor...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> She finished the class :)
>> Her phone died so no pics, but she verified that they were on Buells.
>> I guess there was one lady in the class that had Harley everything and was 
>> bragging about riding her husband's Harley. Once they got on the bikes, she 
>> stalled about 50 times and kept falling over. She didn't pass...
>> 
>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:06, Kurt Nolte  wrote:
>> 
>>> I know they used to, but now that the Blast is out of production...?
>>> 
>>> Kurt
>>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2012 1:02 PM, "Javier Garcia"  wrote:
>>> I think they use Buell Blast.
>>> Javier.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Kurt Nolte  
>>> wrote:
>>> One question I've always had about those Harley courses: do they provide 
>>> the bikes? Harley doesn't make a beginner size bike anymore...
>>> 
>>> Kurt
>>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2012 12:56 PM, "James O'Gorman"  wrote:
>>> My wife is taking a Motorcycle safety class this week at a Harley 
>>> dealership near Milwaukee. It was funny when she came home after the first 
>>> night – she was complaining about how they spent 3 hours talking about the 
>>> safety gear.
>>> 
>>> About an hour later, she tells me that she wants to buy a full-face helmet 
>>> to replace the 3/4 one that she has now :)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> She was also saying how the first night, they took a tour of the dealership 
>>> with a sales guy, and the second night a lady came in to talk to the class 
>>> about the products and services they offer there. One thing that is kinda 
>>> cool is that they are supposed to get some sort of gift certificate at the 
>>> end of the last class on Monday. We just might be able to find something 
>>> without an HD logo on it for a reasonable price. She’s looking for riding 
>>> glove right now...
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] New member

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Welcome to the fourm marine. For the most part the people here try to keep this 
rare bread of bike as close to stock as possable, but if its already in bad 
shape (basket case, wrecked, ect) extencive mods are great. We all want pics of 
your bike before, durring, and after the build. 

There should also be at least 1 member left in northern va to help you out and 
ride with.

again welcome aboard
yeti
(former squid)



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] New member

Good evening gentlemen,
My name is Ruben and I have just joined the forum. I have purchased a 1984 
nighthawk 650, which I intent to convert into a cafe racer. I am a member 
of the Marine Corps and as such I move from place to place. My duties 
currently have me stationed in Quantico, VA. I was hoping someone could 
help me find cheap parts in this area to star the project. More over I will 
need some guidance as to taking the entire front end off the bike. Any help 
would be greatly appreciated.. 
Respectfully,
Ruben R Tapia
USMC, 2nd Lieutenant 

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Diesel motorcycle

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+1 To both of kurts posts. I would love to have a diesel touring bike,  so much 
i would pay retail for it and give up my wing... Just as long as it doesent 
have a hd stamp on it. I have thought that a diesel crurser would be the poo!



---Original Message---
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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Diesel motorcycle

I actually wrote an email to Harley Davidson's marketing division (and only
because I couldn't find an email for their design department). Told them
that they could probably sell, with ease, a supercharged Harley 1600cc
V-twin diesel to their fanbase. It ticks off so many boxes: clattery big
industrial diesel, mad torque (perception of high power), superchargers,
diesel smoke potential, loud pipe potential... and also the ability to go
forever on one of those big tanks of fuel and actually get some pretty
clean emissions without even needing aftertreatment.

Haven't heard back from them. Much as I hate to admit it, really you'd have
to get HD onboard to sell one in the US. As Harley goes, so goes the metric
cruiser market. If Honda makes a diesel Shadow or VLX, they'd probably also
offer a diesel 'wing. The gates would then be open and off you go.

-Kurt

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> Couldn't have said it better.
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Ultimate Lunch for days on the bike?

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I own several p38 can openers, one just happens to be kept in the bike, another 
on the boat, last one in my ditch bag. 



---Original Message---
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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Ultimate Lunch for days on the bike?

I carried my p38 for about 3 years til I realized I would not only never need 
it again but that it was next to worthless If you don't know what a p38 is 
its the opener you were issued if you were in the service during the time c 
rations were still being given to troops.


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>When I was in the corps they had just started replacing C rations with MRE 
>they were lousy, plugged you up like a cork, and came in about 3 varieties of 
>disgusting. I still think I pick an MRE gorilla cookie over a PBJ in a can, 
>LOL!
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>
>Thats funny - I thought those were 'Meals Rejected by Everyone' :-)
>    -Joey
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>On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 2:54 PM, greenzer...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>> Im still a fan of jerkey and mres. But i havent checked ur link yet
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> All,
>>  I keep thinking that these would be the ultimate motorcycle
>> trip food - small, lightweight, relatively inexpensive and perhaps
>> just a bit weird.
>> Thoughts?
>> http://www.markonefoods.com/buyonline
>> -Joey
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Ultimate Lunch for days on the bike?

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Ok, i want to pack some caned pb&j for the boat now!



---Original Message---
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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Ultimate Lunch for days on the bike?

You might want to pack a can of this to go with it.

http://cache.backpackinglight.com/backpackinglight/user_uploads/1209091427_05524.gif
[image: Inline image 1]

-Kyle


On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:59 PM, greenzer...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Lol. Yea, but they pack well and will sustain you
>
>
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> Thats funny - I thought those were 'Meals Rejected by Everyone' :-)
> -Joey
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> >
> >
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> >
> > All,
> >  I keep thinking that these would be the ultimate motorcycle
> > trip food - small, lightweight, relatively inexpensive and perhaps
> > just a bit weird.
> > Thoughts?
> > http://www.markonefoods.com/buyonline
> > -Joey
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Ultimate Lunch for days on the bike?

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Lol. Yea, but they pack well and will sustain you



---Original Message---
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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Ultimate Lunch for days on the bike?

Thats funny - I thought those were 'Meals Rejected by Everyone' :-)
-Joey

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 wrote:
> Im still a fan of jerkey and mres. But i havent checked ur link yet
>
>
>
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>
> All,
>  I keep thinking that these would be the ultimate motorcycle
> trip food - small, lightweight, relatively inexpensive and perhaps
> just a bit weird.
> Thoughts?
> http://www.markonefoods.com/buyonline
> -Joey
>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Ultimate Lunch for days on the bike?

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Im still a fan of jerkey and mres. But i havent checked ur link yet



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Ultimate Lunch for days on the bike?

All,
 I keep thinking that these would be the ultimate motorcycle
trip food - small, lightweight, relatively inexpensive and perhaps
just a bit weird.
Thoughts?
http://www.markonefoods.com/buyonline
-Joey

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Chains

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U dont need to pressure wash it. Remove the chain and clean with a mild soap 
and brush (old tooth brush works great) then soak it in oil (engine oil is 
good. New or used doesent matter, but atf is better) over night. 



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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Chains

Just moved to Tucson, AZ.  It's monsoon season and I live at the end of a 
half mile dirt road.  I barely made it home before the low points in the 
roads flooded, but not before my bike got all muddy and I was soaked.  My 
question is:  what do i do for the chain in circumstances like this? 
 Surely dirt and grit are now in the chain.  

One person suggested i should pressure wash everything off the chain and 
re-lube.  I guess i can do that if i need to, though will have to drive the 
12 miles or so into town to do it.. Any other suggestions? 

Oh:  1992 Nighthawk 750

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Not a Nighthawk but a really cool bike

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The whole group is seeing this



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OK, but would the group see this or just you?
Dave

On 30 July 2012 21:54, Allen Thomas  wrote:

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>>
>> 1979 Triump 750
>> http://honolulu.craigslist.org/big/mcy/3173580995.html
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Weirdest thing I've hauled on the bike this year!

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Ive carried my light saber like that
yep, im that kind of dork



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Yup - by far :-)
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?

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Sounds like coils to me



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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: No power/ stalling in low rpm. Any ideas?

Ran some through. Let it sit.  Then ran the rest of a can of sea foam for 60 
miles. 

No improvement.
The problem gets worse as the engine gets up to temperature 
The engine hesitates and wants to die below 3 to 3.5k rpm. 
Holding the throttle steady, it will slowly and roughly pick up. Then when it 
hits that range it will "jump" as if it's now catching spark.
Occasionally on the ride I'd get a poor response in higher rpm but I figured 
that was just the sea foam making things a bit rougher.
I've talked to my brother he had pulled the carbs and had them soaked in 
"simple green."
Otherwise he says all he's done is replace the battery and spark plugs.

I'm pulling the carbs here as soon as I eat, so I'll post back with what I see.

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] The worst of CL

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Bobers and choppers designed from the start to be that are ok in my book. Its 
the guys that cut up a perfectly good bike just to make something that looks 
cool but rides like crap that annoy me. So to any of our membes that want to 
build one, i am assuming that your chopping a wrecked bike or building from 
scratch because we are smarter and have more respect then that 



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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The worst of CL

Potential bobber. There is a company in Oklahoma that makes bobber frames & can 
supply the accessories.

Thank you,

Ross M. Jamison
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Kyle Munz  wrote:

> I'm thinking about going to see this bike just so I can smack the seller 
> upside the frakking head!
> 
> http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/3156238730.html
> 
> 
> -Kyle 
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Electrical Idiot

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What area are u in?



---Original Message---
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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Electrical Idiot

I'm an electrical idiot. Never gotten my hands dirty in my life UNTIL I 
bought my 1985 Nighthawk 450 a couple weeks ago. Wasnt running and now its 
running like a champ thanks to forums like this and the Clymers. Now the 
last two things that I CANT figure out. My horn and headlight are not 
working. Already tested horn and headlight individually so I know its not a 
problem with them. I have tried studying and analyzing the wiring diagram 
in my clymers and it might as well be instructions to deactivate a nuclear 
bomb thats written in german. I have no clue what it means and the only 
time I've tried messing around with stray wires sparks flew like 4th of 
July and I burnt my fingers. SO...my question is this..where do I start and 
what do I check? You might have to use caveman language with me because 
even "check the terminals for a bad ground" means absolutely nothing to me 
cause I have no clue what those are. Only shop around in my area that will 
do the electrical on this wants $90 an hour just to look at it. Trying not 
to go that route. I apologize for my idiocy but I'm sure most people 
understand that everyone use to know nothing and that happens to be the 
stage I am in. If you need more info let me know I can post and reply 
pretty quickly. Thanks and I'll post some pics too if need be. 

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Rear turn signal modulator

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Probly the only time a pic of a rack has been requested in the history of the 
internet that has actualy been clean!



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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Rear turn signal modulator

Forgot to mention, got pics of that rack? :D

Kurt
On Jun 24, 2012 7:39 AM, "Greg Holuban"  wrote:

>  Could anyone let me know of a good rear turn signal modulator for a 91
> 750? I am trying to install a homemade luggage rack and I'll be using the
> rear turn signal mounts whick attach to the rear frame under the seat. So,
> I'm trying to connect the turn signals with the running and brake lights.
> Thank you.
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: nighthawk 450 air cut off valve question

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Sounds like a coil to me. Similar issues with my goldwing untill i swaped the 
coil



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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: nighthawk 450 air cut off valve question

Ok, here is an update. I plugged off the air cut off valve, but the
bike still runs the same. I realized that at idle the left spake plug
wire has very little to no spark. But when revved up the spark gets
stronger. The bike is only running on one cylinder until it gets to
about 4 or 5 thousand RPM. My question now is, do you guys think it is
the coil or something with the stator. I tried finding in my Clymer
what the voltage should be going into the coil but I couldn't find
anything. Any information is greatly appreciated! Thanks!

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Apartments in Japan for motorcycle types

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Hey now, when my 'go fast' bike is a 50cc scooter i dont think that qualifies 
me as a troublemaker... I understand that only true nighthawks are allowed into 
the city core, i just want to be around greatness



---Original Message---
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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Apartments in Japan for motorcycle types

I guess we already know who is going to be the trouble maker.
 On Jun 23, 2012 9:21 AM, "greenzer...@gmail.com" 
wrote:

> Question. Living on the outskirts of nighthawkia with my goldwing, would
> my aprillia sr50 be welcome?
>
>
>
> ---Original Message---
> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Sent: 6/22/2012 9:41 pm
> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Apartments in Japan for motorcycle types
>
> I propose that we move to banish any and all *Knighthawk* owners.
>
> -Kyle
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Javier Garcia 
> wrote:
>
> > I might get a tattoo with those words
> >
> > Javier
> > On Jun 22, 2012 5:24 PM, "paul annen"  wrote:
> >
> >> we the people of nighthawkia demand rights
> >>
> >> the right to ride the worlds best bikes ever made
> >> the right to life, liberty, and personal choice on motor oil
> >> the right to own as many bikes as we so chose without the harassment
> form
> >> "the better half"
> >> and most importantly the right to live with our motorcycles in complete
> >> harmony
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Kurt Nolte  >wrote:
> >>
> >>> That's it, I'm considering secession! Mandating oil types... What next!
> >>>
> >>> Kurt
> >>> On Jun 22, 2012 5:09 PM, "Dennis"  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> OK, let's make it interesting and throw in rules on paint jobs and ...
> >>>> wait
> >>>> for it ... type of oil allowed to be used (yikes!).
> >>>>
> >>>> Dennis - NZ
> >>>>
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> >>>> [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joey Kelley
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 7:02 AM
> >>>> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Apartments in Japan for motorcycle
> types
> >>>>
> >>>> Someone needs to start a list of regulations of Nighthawkia
> >>>> We need a pledge or oath
> >>>>Rules, emissions regulations...
> >>>>  Octane restrictions...
> >>>>-Joey
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Kurt Nolte  >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > BUT non-nighthawk owners still have to take the oath!
> >>>> >
> >>>> > -Kurt
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Javier Garcia  >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> We can do exceptions, but those with no-nighthawks will be assigned
> >>>> >> to the ugliest apartments.
> >>>> >> Javier.
> >>>> >>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Apartments in Japan for motorcycle types

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Question. Living on the outskirts of nighthawkia with my goldwing, would my 
aprillia sr50 be welcome?



---Original Message---
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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Apartments in Japan for motorcycle types

I propose that we move to banish any and all *Knighthawk* owners.

-Kyle


On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Javier Garcia  wrote:

> I might get a tattoo with those words
>
> Javier
> On Jun 22, 2012 5:24 PM, "paul annen"  wrote:
>
>> we the people of nighthawkia demand rights
>>
>> the right to ride the worlds best bikes ever made
>> the right to life, liberty, and personal choice on motor oil
>> the right to own as many bikes as we so chose without the harassment form
>> "the better half"
>> and most importantly the right to live with our motorcycles in complete
>> harmony
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote:
>>
>>> That's it, I'm considering secession! Mandating oil types... What next!
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>> On Jun 22, 2012 5:09 PM, "Dennis"  wrote:
>>>
 OK, let's make it interesting and throw in rules on paint jobs and ...
 wait
 for it ... type of oil allowed to be used (yikes!).

 Dennis - NZ

 -Original Message-
 From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joey Kelley
 Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 7:02 AM
 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Apartments in Japan for motorcycle types

 Someone needs to start a list of regulations of Nighthawkia
 We need a pledge or oath
Rules, emissions regulations...
  Octane restrictions...
-Joey

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Kurt Nolte 
 wrote:
 > BUT non-nighthawk owners still have to take the oath!
 >
 > -Kurt
 >
 > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Javier Garcia 
 wrote:
 >>
 >> We can do exceptions, but those with no-nighthawks will be assigned
 >> to the ugliest apartments.
 >> Javier.
 >>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Apartments in Japan for motorcycle types

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

+1



---Original Message---
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Sent: 6/21/2012 9:56 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Apartments in Japan for motorcycle types

And we shall call it Nighthawkia - and Paul shall lead us!
  :-)
  Anyone for a bumper sticker that says 'Paul is my Group Owner'?
   :-)
   -Joey

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Javier Garcia  wrote:
> We just need about 1000 of those, one for each member of the group. Then we
> can create our own new society.
>
> Javier.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Kurt Nolte 
> wrote:
>>
>> Awesome. I'd live there! :D
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Jun 21, 2012 5:08 PM, "Dennis"  wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.gizmag.com/motorcycle-apartments-tokyo/23008/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> -  New Zealand
>>>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Yamaha Seca?

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I have a pelican case that i transport my laptop in. Never an isue with 
watertightnes And i do ride with it straped to the back of the bike in the 
rain, then i throw it in the dinghy to come out to the big boat, all in any 
weather. I love my pelican!


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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Yamaha Seca?

Yeah. Pelican makes gear cases, the ones I want aren't road-case size but
are still huge and I love that panniers look.

Kurt
On Jun 20, 2012 8:18 AM, "Joey Kelley"  wrote:
>
> Are those the ones that literally look like the roadcases Bands use
> for their instruments?
> If so - I've seen them - and yes - they look tacky.
> On the other hand - they also like incredibly useful.
>   -Joey
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Planning a trip to South Florida

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I havent hit to many love bugs recently. But out in daytona and orlando... And 
i vacation in the keys



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To: "Nightwawk Lovers" 
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Planning a trip to South Florida

I've had that happen a couple of times here but it was from swarms of gnats. 
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:26:30 
To: 
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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Planning a trip to South Florida

It's not Florida but last September I hit so many lovebugs I had to pull
over after 10 minutes to wash my visor just to see where I was going.
They're pretty unpredictable.

-Kyle
On Jun 14, 2012 10:10 PM, "surfswab"  wrote:

> I guess I'll take that as a yes.  I've been there when they were heavy
> and wouldn't want to repeat that experience.
>
> But the lack of response begs another question.  Where do Floridians
> go on their vacations?
>
> On Jun 13, 7:07 pm, surfswab  wrote:
> > Is Love Bug mating season over?
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Two comments about this CL Ad

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Agree.. Want! I want a miltary model more, but baggers cant be choosers (yes 
pun intended)



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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Two comments about this CL Ad

UGLY? UGLY?
  Its a classic! Seriously! Classic American Motorcycle!
  If they were still making them - I'd buy one today.
 "They still do make them.."   "Oh. Well. Um. Ok
then." 
  If I could afford one I'd still buy one!
   -Joey

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Javier Garcia  wrote:
> It is funny how people can agree and disagree so much. For me that is one of
> the ugliest bike I have ever seen...LOL
>
> Javier.
>
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Joey Kelley  wrote:
>>
>> 1. WANT!
>> 2. Who carries around $28k of CASH?
>> http://maine.craigslist.org/mcy/3056990704.html
>> -Joey
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] 700s with the hicups

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Similar  issue with my goldwing. Problew was no spark on rear cylenders. Traced 
to single coil. Replaced the coil and ran great!

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---Original Message---
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Sent: 6/4/2012 3:05 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 700s with the hicups

Shane,
Under load the throttle has to be moved further open to
achieve the same engine RPM - in other words - you use more fuel to
run the engine at 7,000 RPM while moving than while stopped.
You have some sort of either ignition or fuel problem - I would guess.
If you had an ignition problem it would probably manifest at
the same RPM load or no, my guess is that you do have either a crimped
fuel line or the fuel filter has added too much run to the fuel system
and has reduced the fuel flow into the carbs, essentially starving
them.
Others thoughts?
   -Joey

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Shane Newhouse  wrote:
> it does, just not straight down, but to me it looks sides ways :). I
> really don't think its a fuel problem, I can rev it up fine like it
> should, put it in gear and take off quick and and it spits and
> sputters until you back the gas off, pull the clutch in and she reves
> just fine again, even substained rpm's as long as your not trying to
> move.
>
> On 6/4/12, Allen Thomas  wrote:
>> The carb side of the filter should point down so that it can't suck air.
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Shane Newhouse 
>> Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:21:05
>> To: 
>> Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 700s with the hicups
>>
>> nopestraight line fuel flowing, but the filter sitting side ways why
>> could that cause a problem? They sit sideways on my other 2 bikes and
>> they run just fine... curious
>>
>> On 6/4/12, Allen Thomas  wrote:
>>> Pinched fuel line or filter sitting sideways?
>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Kyle Munz 
>>> Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 12:27:49
>>> To: 
>>> Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 700s with the hicups
>>>
>>> I'm no expert but I'd still be suspicious of the carbs. I know you
>>> changed
>>> them out but was it with a known good set? Were the diaphragms all good?
>>> All paths and jets clear? Synched?
>>>
>>> -Kyle
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:13 PM, nighthawkin 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 check the battery and charging??? sounds like you got all the usual
 stuff...


 On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Shane  wrote:

> Ok guys, got a bit of a problem with a 85’ 700. A friend of mine
> brought it over after it developed a lack of power at the 7k mark.
> It will start right up idel fine and will even tack up to 9K+ without
> out a hiccup. But ride it down the road and gas it, it falls on its
> face around 6-7k just spits on sputters until you let off the throttle
> and then you can run it up slowly… very strange
> It’s got me stumped below is the all things I’ve changed with no
> change in the running condition what so ever (parts I took off one of
> my running 700s);
> Changed the Carbs, air cleaner, coils, coil wires, ignition box,
> pickup coils, spark plugs, gas tank, did compression test 160psi and
> holds
> Have not cracked the motor open yet, thought I would get a second
> opinion before I go there…  I am thinking maybe a stretched cam chain
> changing the timing when under a load, sticky valves??  I’m hoping the
> nighthawk collective can help me out.  Shane
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Well it appears I'm hanging up my Leather Jacket

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Great news!



---Original Message---
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Sent: 5/27/2012 4:57 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Well it appears I'm hanging up my Leather Jacket

Hello All,
   Well guess what - ye olde (not so) Humble moderator should
really really take a good look at things before freaking completely out.
   After $868 - apparently it was too much effort to hook up the
crank case breather hose to the airbox.
   Yes ladies and gentlemen - that was the source of the burning
oil that the shop couldn't find.
Oh and the non-working fuel gauge? Well it helps when you hook
up the vacuum line to that as well. (Which as soon as I find where it goes,
I will)
And the geniuses couldn't find the problem with my tach either
- I did - I took the cable off when it no longer worked :-)
The biggest problem I can confirm so far is that the idle is
set way high - I think the mechanic was used to either weed whackers or 600
cc sportbikes (is there a difference?) or was totally tach dependent since
the idle is around 2000 rpm. Before anyone asks - yes - I adjusted the idle
screw on the carbs - its all the way down - I've got to pull the tank back
off and adjust the throttle adjustment - its not allowing the throttles to
close all the way.
Ironically - no choke needs to be used when it starts that
way but its unrideable at speeds under 15 MPH - won't idle down that
far.
False alarm folks!
-Joey


On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Paul  wrote:

> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Javier Garcia 
>  wrote:
>
>> +1 on Allen's comment. I bet the leak is coming from the valve cover.
>>
> *
> Guys, if THAT'S the case, that's not a hard fix. Is there any of our
> mechanically-inclined members close enough to Joey to lend a hand?
> **
>
> Paul LeBoutillier *
> *www.hondanighthawks.net*
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Anyone looking for a Hawk?

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With me at 280 pounds plus 130 of gilfriend and 30 pounds of gear on the 99 
cb250 i would run 3/4 of my 45 mile each way commute at 100 percent throttle 
(65-70 mph after upping the rear sprocket size) and getting 50ish mpg. Worst i 
got on it was 35 and best was 75. Now i weigh more (and so does the gf) same 
gear on the goldwing and i get 45 mpg on the same runs



---Original Message---
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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Anyone looking for a Hawk?

My 750 IS my current daily, and typically turns in 42-44. I'm hoping going
slightly smaller will be better, and I haven't ruled out a 250 for my 12
miles one-way commute.

Kurt
On May 14, 2012 2:27 PM, "Nate R. - Phily, PA - 83 650" <
nathan...@innate-design.com> wrote:

> Depends on what your other daily driver gets gets. My car gets 18 mpg
> on average, so 38 mpg is a great commute upgrade! Besides my NH
> typically gets 43 mpg.
>
> Nate
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Any 750 owners using a disc lock?

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How about one of those D locks around the front tire?



---Original Message---
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Sent: 5/8/2012 8:39 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Any 750 owners using a disc lock?

I have a post market rotor on my front disc brake and put a lock on it. 
It's pretty generic and cost me about $10 at a store closing sale in SF.  I 
would recommend going by a shop with your bike, usually sales people will 
let you go make sure it fits your bike. Mine can fit in my fist and it's 
made by a company that does bicycle D locks...I can't recall the name off 
the top of my head. Just make sure that you get a bright cord that goes 
from your lock to your handle bars so you have a reminder that the lock is 
on the break. Trying to ride down the street with a front disc lock on your 
bike poses a few problems...lol
-Jarreau

On Monday, May 7, 2012 7:58:41 PM UTC-7, Kurt Nolte wrote:
>
> Just as the title says. I'm interested in picking up a disc lock at some 
> point during the summer; in the fall I go back to working a couple nights, 
> and our area isn't the best for theft. While I've been lucky so far, and I 
> park right in view of a security camera, I like doubling up my caution with 
> my ride. 
>
> Looking for proper size, recommendations for models or brands... I /don't/ 
> want one with an alarm, what a hassle and in this day and age vehicle 
> alarms are ignored almost as often as they garner attention. 
>
> Thanks for anything you folks can muster up!
>
> Kurt
>

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] ST 1100 - Need opinions

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I use my gl1200 full dress as my daily driver. Granted thats normaly 45 miles 
each way, but there is alot of in town in that. I dont think of it as heavy or 
awkward. It is fast off the line and PLENTY of top end. Super smooth, quiet, 
and tons of lockable cargo room. I think its a great all around bike



---Original Message---
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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] ST 1100 - Need opinions

Ron and all,
  I've noticed that the more I ride it seems like I have a split
motorcycle personality - I often ride to work, getting groceries, errands
etc - generally short rides, often in traffic, where a bike like the GS1000
excels (fast off the line, harder on the top end) but the long distance day
/ weekend / week long cruises I'd like to do require something much easier
on the rider. However, if I bought a GoldWing (particularly a full dress
one) I think I'd find that using it around town would be annoying - heavy,
slow acceleration, relatively quiet.
  Now granted, I've owned two bikes and ridden two more for day
rides (both HDs - both owned by my Dad) so that isn't an experience based
comment.
  Am I far off?
  -Joey

On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Pastor Ron  wrote:

>  Also another thought, that I love my adjustable windshield.  I am not
> sure your budget; but to me IT’S worth the extra bucks.  When I put it up
> on the open road, it stops the wind whistle and some head rain.  I also
> added a trunk which I am not sure it that is possible on that bike.  On the
> down side, I know the front wheel goes up easily on my ST1300 if there is a
> passenger on the back and you punch it.  Of course condition is everything.
> Working on them is certainly different from the NH.  The fairing at least
> for me a newbie ST owner is a hassle. 
>
> But when you on the open road, it’s worth it. 
>
> Ron
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pastor Ron
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 05, 2012 6:18 PM
> *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] ST 1100 - Need opinions
>
> ** **
>
> The ST looks nice! I paid a lot more than that for my 2005 ST1300.  The
> price is good.  One thing I am not really sure about is the color of the
> faring.  I have seen that color on the replacement fairings on EBAY.  And I
> have not seen it on the new ones. But then again I have not seen all that
> there are out there. I would check and make sure the bike is not damaged
> underneath the bike. I don’t know if you can do that. I would also check
> out the front shocks were they were recently worked on.  I am not saying I
> would not buy it, but I would check those things out. 
>
> Ron
>
> ** **
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> *From:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 05, 2012 6:00 PM
> *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] ST 1100 - Need opinions
>
> ** **
>
> *Seems like a fair price to me! Honestly, I think you would love an
> ST1100 or 1300.*
>
> *
> *
>
> 
>
> Paul LeBoutillier 
>
> **
>
> *www.hondanighthawks.net*
>
> ** **
>
> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Joey Kelley  wrote:***
> *
>
> All,
> Found this on CL - called the owner - waiting to hear back, going
> to go see the bike when I get a call.
> So - price - condition - whats it worth etc etc?
> http://maine.craigslist.org/mcy/2997768643.html
>   Thanks guys!
>-Joey
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Modification to increase power in mid range for 91-03 705's

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

My ipod touch works great with bluetooth



---Original Message---
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Sent: 4/22/2012 11:16 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Modification to increase power in mid range 
for 91-03 705's

Ron, you can run the ipod with the wire (although I hate that). What I did
was to buy a bluetooth adapter for the ipod. I think I got through amazon,
it costed about $35, and is really small. Just a tiny thing you plug where
the usb cable goes in the bottom of the ipod, with one bottom. It synched
with the sena with no problems and works very well. BTW, the Sena will
pause the music if there is an income call, either on the phone or from
another Sena. It resumes once the conversation is over. However, I am
thinking that in the future I will get one of those smart phones so I can
have all in one, music, phone and gps.

Javier.

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Pastor Ron  wrote:

>  Javier,  I’ve been considering getting a solo headset so I can hear both
> phone and mp3s. I have looked at the Sena’s.  Does the Ipod have to have a
> Bluetooth functionality or is it hard wired.  Is there a way to know if it
> will with my helmet.
>
> Ron
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Javier Garcia
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 22, 2012 9:43 AM
> *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Modification to increase power in
> mid range for 91-03 705's
>
> ** **
>
> I use one call Sena. I have one for me and for my wife, so we can talk.
> They work really well. The speakers are loud enough to hear even at highway
> speeds, but they have to be placed right where your ears are. Since they
> are bluetooth I can pair it with my cellphone and ipod. Phone calls also
> work great, the sound quality is good enough that people can't tell that I
> am on my bike. They are not cheap, but at the time I bought them their
> price was competitive with respect to other brands.
>
> ** **
>
> Javier.
>
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM,  wrote:
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> I'm really wondering if I would want to make my bike louder just for a
> guess at a gain in horsepower.
>
> On the lines of loud vs quiet, does anyone here use a Bluetooth to talk
> while riding? If so what model are you using? I sort of like the time on my
> bike by myself, but lets face it, sometimes we need to take that call. Then
> there's GPS and all kinds of reasons we might want to have it available. My
> Jabra works fair, but my helmet allows a little too much noise in making it
> difficult to hear. I'm wondering of those helmets with Bluetooth built-in
> are any better? Anyone here have one of those?
>
> ** **
>
> -Original Message-
> From: surfswab 
> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! 
>
> Sent: Sun, Apr 22, 2012 8:02 am
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Modification to increase power in mid
> range for 91-03 705's
>
> Make that link:
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.nighthawk750.com
>
> ** **
>
> I knew it was missing something.  Write ups for both mods w/pics are
>
> there under "Modifications"
>
> ** **
>
> On Apr 21, 11:25 pm, surfswab  wrote:
>
> > That's called the "Hodge Mod" (after the guy who first did it on the
>
> > 750.com website, back in the 90s).  It's usually done in conjunction
>
> > with the Radio Shack fuel jet washer mod (so named for shimming fuel
>
> > jets in each carb with two #4 washers from Radio Shack).
>
> >** **
>
> > Those who've done both, swear by the improved performance.  The claim
>
> > of more power is mostly anecdotal since, as far as I know, there are
>
> > no dyno comparisons to back it up.
>
> >** **
>
> > But the chatter indicates it does seem to improve driveability
>
> > throughout the throttle range (improved air-fuel ratio, no off-idle
>
> > stumble, faster warmup, less choke required, a little more exhaust
>
> > growl, etc.).
>
> >** **
>
> > So better perceived responsiveness, yes.  More power, not
>
> > neccessarily.  But seems worthwhile and it's cheap and easy.
>
> >** **
>
> > Documentation here, if the site's still up.  It tends to be
>
> > sporadically unavailable:
>
> >** **
>
> > http://www.750.com
>
> >** **
>
> > On Apr 21, 9:37 pm, Hawaii Sean  wrote:
>
> >** **
>
> >** **
>
> >** **
>
> > > I found this video on YouTube.  It's interesting but I really wonder
>
> > > if it would make a difference in the end.
>
> >** **
>
> > > It's not much work and not that hard.
>
> >** **
>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] My First Bike

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

And most importantly the bike will explode if you dont send us pics of it 
within 48 hours of you picking it up



---Original Message---
From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: 4/14/2012 9:09 am
To: "Nightwawk Lovers" 
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] My First Bike

Change the fluids regularly use motor oil that's compatible with a bike's wet 
clutch. Keep the bike in a good state of maintenance, store it in a garage if 
possible, check tire pressure before each ride. If you have a chain drive lube 
frequently and clean/adjust with each oil change. Once a year go over the bike 
with a torque wrench to make sure nothing is vibrating loose. Put stabilizer in 
the gas if you won't ride it for more than 3 weeks. Get a battery tender as 
well. When winterizing put it on the center stand and block up the engine to 
get the front wheel off the ground. Take a motorcycle safety course, read some 
books like "proficient motorcycling" they will give you lots of tips on how to 
ride safe/well. Enjoy!
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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] My First Bike

So I am planning to buy a 1991 Nighthawk as my first bike! I have
always loved the model. It's the perfect mix of the classic CB and the
newer street style CB's.  I won't front. I don't know too much about
riding or the bike yet and I want to know everything there is to know
so I can have a long, prosperous relationship with my bike.  It's
obviously used and the owner doesn't have the manual anymore, I was
curious what advice you all would give this newbie about taking care
of my bike so that my bike takes care of me.

Thanks all for any and all you have to say!

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] My First Bike

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Ok. I get most of our humor here, but i just dont get this advice


and congrats on your bike. Best you can do for it is keep up with oil changes 
with a mc spec oil, if that model is chain drive clean and lube the chain 
often, and most important... Take a msf couse!



---Original Message---
From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: 4/13/2012 11:48 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] My First Bike

In car at entrance waiting for you. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 13, 2012, at 6:52 PM, "xXMr.CrossXx"  wrote:

> So I am planning to buy a 1991 Nighthawk as my first bike! I have
> always loved the model. It's the perfect mix of the classic CB and the
> newer street style CB's.  I won't front. I don't know too much about
> riding or the bike yet and I want to know everything there is to know
> so I can have a long, prosperous relationship with my bike.  It's
> obviously used and the owner doesn't have the manual anymore, I was
> curious what advice you all would give this newbie about taking care
> of my bike so that my bike takes care of me.
> 
> Thanks all for any and all you have to say!
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: need your help!

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

I thought about doing this with an old school buss. Put a lift on the back to 
bring the bike up and in for an ac shop



---Original Message---
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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: need your help!

Hey, I'm game for this plan. Even have a CDL, so we coulda have a big
truck. :D

Kurt
On Apr 12, 2012 10:36 AM, "Joking1701"  wrote:

> Or we need to get a big trailer to carry tools and the bikes maybe
> with a sleeper and become traveling motorcycle repairmen lol!
>
>
> On Apr 12, 10:14 am, Javier Garcia  wrote:
> > Hell yeah oh wait, 7 hrs is too much. You guys need to move closer to
> > us...
> > Javier.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:23 AM, joking1...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Al, Javier I would say road trip bit it is 7 hours one way lol!
> >
> > > Jason King
> >
> > > - Reply message -
> > > From: "Allen Thomas" 
> > > To: "Nightwawk Lovers" 
> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] need your help!
> > > Date: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 9:19 am
> >
> > > When I get to a computer I'll send some links.
> > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Chris T 
> > > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> > > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 04:57:44
> > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
> > > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] need your help!
> >
> > > Hi guys, later today I am going to be a first time owner of a 1985
> > > cb450 nighthawk! I am excited but also I have no idea what I am
> > > getting myself into. All I know right now is that I need to attach the
> > > front break and that it has not been started since at least last
> > > season. If you can help guide me through what will need to be done or
> > > what you would do to get this bike up and running I would appreciate
> > > it and keep in mind when you respond that I know next to nothing about
> > > motorcycles, I have a service manual coming in the mail that should
> > > help but it would be nice to have someone with knowledge about the
> > > bike to keep in contact with. I live in Columbus Ohio by the way.
> > > Thanks everyone,
> > > Chris T
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1986 GOLDWING - $650 (Harpers Ferry)

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

86 is the same year as mine. Not a bad deal on a great bike. Might have to tell 
my dad about that one.



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To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" 
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1986 GOLDWING - $650 (Harpers Ferry)

That is a good deal!


On Apr 12, 10:23 am, Javier Garcia  wrote:
> I just found this one on 
> CL:http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/2953819329.html

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Not bike related

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

I just did the front brakes and roters in my fiancees 03 aztek in 45 min! No 
power tools, and a screw type tire change jack...  Sorry, just had to brag.

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn Signal Replacement

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Check cycle gear for ones you like. I found some decent sized led blinkers a 
while back in machined alumnium housings. 25 bucks i think?



---Original Message---
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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn Signal Replacement

How about replacement signals themselves? My bike had dinky, invisible
aftermarket "bullet" lamps, and a set of universal aftermarket signals now.
Love to have stockers again.

Kurt
On Apr 9, 2012 9:44 AM, "Pastor Ron"  wrote:

>  I had a rear one that broke.  I cut a piece of plastic to wrap it from a
> coke bottle and wrapped it with black electrical tape.  It worked great
> till the new one came.  They are not very expensive. 
>
> ** **
>
> Ron
>
> ** **
>
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> *From:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Kyle Munz
> *Sent:* Monday, April 09, 2012 8:19 AM
> *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn Signal Replacement
>
> ** **
>
> I've tried gluing them together using 2-part epoxy, it lasted maybe a
> week. You're only long-term solution is to replace the stems. JC Whitney
> sells some that will work, you'll have to drill out the inside diameter
> just a tad though.
>
> -Kyle
>
> 
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:17 AM, nighthawkin  wrote:
> 
>
> try ebay
>
> ** **
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Allen Thomas 
> wrote:
>
> Rubber cement won't hold, super glue is probably best if it is a smooth
> break, or you could try goop.
>
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> *From: *Jeremy Kindy  
>
> *Sender: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com 
>
> *Date: *Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:12:49 -0400
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> *To: *
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> *Subject: *[Nighthawk Lovers] Turn Signal Replacement
>
> ** **
>
> I'm having a problem with one of my turn signals.  I've got a 92 750 and
> the left front turn signal post is cracking on the top, so it's starting to
> hang down.  I've tried gluing it with superglue, but that isn't holding.
> Would rubber cement or something else work better, or would it be best just
> to replace the blinker setup (the other one has hairline cracks, so I'd
> probably just replace all 4)?
>
> I've done a bit of looking on Amazon and bikebandit, but I'm not sure
> where else to look.  So, for those of you who have replaced your blinkers,
> where did you get them and are you happy with them?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeremy
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] If you wanted a Naked Wing....

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

My gl 1200 does not have any over heating issues. I just got off of it from an 
85 mile round trip that was mostly stop and go florida beach trafic..



---Original Message---
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Sent: 4/7/2012 1:01 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] If you wanted a Naked Wing

*Yeah, it was the 1200s that overheated more than the others. This one is
the "root beer" brown color, but I see it's an 1100.
**




Paul LeBoutillier
*
*
*
*www.hondanighthawks.net*



On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:53 PM, paul annen  wrote:

> looks like a good one.. and not to over priced
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Joey Kelley  wrote:
>
>> http://maine.craigslist.org/mcy/2943193848.html
>> That there is your chance!
>> Paul - am I remembering that it was the 1984s that had the overheating
>> issue with the alternators? I keep forgetting if it was 83 or 84
>>  -Joey
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Oil in ST1300 -pic

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

The st is one of my bucket list bikes. Along with the bmw k series and the 
disel bike from holand



---Original Message---
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Sent: 4/6/2012 8:26 am
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Oil in ST1300 -pic

Here is the pic in the add, which is basically it.  I didn't have fresh
batteries in the camera.  It handles like a dream.  The adjustable
windshield when up cut down on all the wind whistling on my helmet.  Cruse
control works wonderful.  The suspension has an easy turn nob right under
the seat.  Power wise it is incredible.  It is a NH on steroids. My only
worry / learning curve seems to weight when going slow on steep grade like
driveway and parking lots.  I have to be aware how the bike is leaning
because of the weight.  The bike sits a little higher so it is a little more
difficult controlling the weight when moving the bike around to get started,
but also I get let my legs down when riding on the highway without hitting
the ground, and lets me stretch.  It has Larry highway pegs that easily flip
out when moving.  They are a tad high but they feel comfortable.  It is
defiantly not a nebee bike, it definitely requires more forethought and
restraint.  On the NH you can easily put a leg down when it trouble, but I
doubt this bike will be as forgiving. But on the open road, it is in it's
domain. 

 

 

image 0

 

 

  _  

From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:40 PM
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Oil in ST1300

 

The phrase "opinions vary" can be used of ANY discussion where oil is the
focus. But it sounds like you're safe either way.

 

Got any new pics of the ST1300?


 

 

 

   

Paul LeBoutillier
 

   

www.hondanighthawks.net  





On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Pastor Ron  wrote:

My thought was maybe he was lying, because his papers he handed me said,
Rotella T.  Or I thought maybe he wasn't paying attention and wasn't making
a distinction between the T and the T6.But I have seen on the ST site,
that they do use synthetic oils in ST's.   I wasn't sure what additives were
in the T6.  Although from all the reading I did on their site, there are a
bunch of false claims, and the only real benefit of T6 is ease of starting
in the winter.  But opnions certainly vary.  

Ron

 

  _  

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[mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Green
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:32 PM
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Oil in ST1300

 

Bleh, my clutch had started slipping and I was running a poor oil choice so
I changed to Rotella T5 and my clutch still slips sometimes under hard
accelleration.  I thought the slippage would go away when I switched to a
better oil choice, but it's not really much better.  Think I ruined my
clutch?

 

Sorry for the hijack Ron. :-)

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Allen Thomas  wrote:

A number of guys on the VFR-list run that. If it wasn't friendly for wet
clutches you'd know it. I ruined my clutch on my NH within 100 miles, that's
how I learned about oil with additives.
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Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 07:42:30
To: 
Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Oil in ST1300

After have that long discussion on Oil in the NH I was thinking about my
ST1300.   When I picked up the bike the seller handed me a jug of Rotella T6
and my heart sunk.  The reference book says SG or higher, Pro Honda GN4 w/o
molybdenum.  Does the ST1300 have the same wet clutch as a NH? Does anyone
know if I will run into problems with a synthetic oil in a Honda ST1300.
Should I change it ASAP? He said he was second owner, and that is what the
1st owner ran in it.

Ron

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Digest for nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com - 21 Messages in 4 Topics

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

I love st augistine. I am about an hour south in new smyerna beach. I could 
come up and take a look for you? Have our own blinker party!



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Digest for nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com - 
21 Messages in 4 Topics

Sorry if I hijacked the blinker repair effort. Im in st. Augustine fl. I
will get some photos up today.
On Apr 4, 2012 5:51 AM,  wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
>
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/topics
>
>- Do I need to replace my shift forks or something 
> else?<#1367cc467e9680ef_group_thread_0>[2 Updates]
>- Turn signals act weird <#1367cc467e9680ef_group_thread_1> [15
>Updates]
>- Digest for nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 8
>Topics <#1367cc467e9680ef_group_thread_2> [3 Updates]
>- Fw: 1984 xj650 diagram <#1367cc467e9680ef_group_thread_3> [1 Update]
>
>   Do I need to replace my shift forks or something 
> else?
>
>Bryan Gibson  Apr 03 04:30PM -0700
>
>Thanks for the input, Allen. It's always good to get a few different
>opinions, and I've been going through them all. Actually, in the
>process
>of checking into the theory that the bike wouldn't switch gears while
>stopped/off, I took the bike for a ride and low and behold I can get
>at all
>gears, however, there's a catch. I can start the bike in 1st, then go
>up
>through the gears but when I downshift, I can go down one gear
>normally but
>if I want to go further, I have to upshift A HALF CLICK, then go down.
>This is OK, except when I need to stop and go from OD to 1st--it takes
>twice as long and I probably look like a fool clicking up and down
>frantically. OK, so not as bad as a crotch rocket owner that doesn't
>know
>how to shift... At any rate, does that help diagnose my problem...or
>only
>make it more mystifying?
>
>Bryan
>
>On Monday, April 2, 2012 6:00:03 PM UTC-5, Allen wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Bryan Gibson  Apr 03 08:59PM -0700
>
>I was able to tighten each of these bolts each at least 1-1.5 turns.
>Don't
>know if that qualifies as being "loose" so we'll see what comes about
>tomorrow.
>
>Thanks,
>Bryan
>
>On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 8:10:39 AM UTC-5, jason scott wrote:
>
>
>
>   Turn signals act 
> weird
>
>"Allen Thomas"  Apr 04 12:21AM
>
>Graham, the wiring diagram I found stinks but it looks like power to
>the flasher relay comes in as brown and goes out to the signal switch as
>either brown/white or black/white from there it goes to left on chocolate
>and right on dark green. The flasher bulbs are 2 wire so no running lights
>and ground is black. The ground for the flasher relay appears to have a
>canceling unit though it doesn't show the internal connections that wire is
>either yellow/green or yellow/red. I'd start by checking power/ground to
>the relay then power to the switch then power/ground at the bulbs. I hope
>that helps.
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>-Original Message-
>From: Graham Rogers 
>Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:02:01
>To: 
>Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird
>
>I have the wiring diagram. I don't have the sparky to fix the problem!
>
>On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:
>
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>Graham Rogers  Apr 03 08:33PM -0400
>
>The only thing that will help is showing up here. It looks like the
>bike has 3 flasher units - at least it has three all the same units that
>look like flasher units. The turn signals only have one wire each, they are
>grounded to the bike through the flashers themselves.
>
>On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:
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>
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>Javier Garcia  Apr 03 08:39PM -0400
>
>Road trip! road trip! road
>
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>Jason King  Apr 03 08:45PM -0400
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>Second that javier
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>"Allen Thomas"  Apr 04 12:48AM
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>Jason, do you have off this weekend?
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

I had a similar problem with my 99 250. My solution ended up being to sell the 
bike. I just had a great deal on a goldwing fall into my lap that i couldent 
turn away and needed to sell the nh to make it happen... I love the goldwing, 
but miss my little nh alot.



---Original Message---
From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: 4/3/2012 1:21 pm
To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" 
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals act weird

I own a 1984 Knighthawk 700 S

I am having trouble with the turn signals and it is a weird situation,
i havent found one like it. The front signal lights are on as normal
acting as the marker lights and rears are 2 wires so they are off like
normal. When i flip the switch to the right, the front right marker
goes off and only the rear will sometimes flash. when i flip the
switch to the left the fron right light flashes and the rear does
nothing. I can hear the relay clicking and we tried some tests on it
and it seams ok. I looked at the wiring diagram and the next possible
thing could be the "turn signal cancel unit"??? I am not sure what i
should do yet hoping someone has had a similar problem.

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Cruser correction

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

I picked up my 86 goldwing 1200 with 80k miles after sitting for years. After a 
new battery and an over night carb clean i rode my find to work the next day. I 
paid 500 for it! The great thing about the goldwings is that because alot of 
people have them and they are super reliable most bike shops will still work on 
them and you can still get parts... Did i mention that she is my daily rider? I 
do not own a cage so i am on 2 wheeles every day (sorry to rub that in north of 
i 10 guys)



---Original Message---
From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: 3/31/2012 9:21 pm
To: "Nightwawk Lovers" 
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Cruser correction

>From what I've seen age isn't as much an issue as how the bike is cared for. A 
>higher mileage bike that is loved and used, usually needs less work than a 
>neglected low mileage barn find.
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From: "Pastor Ron" 
Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:11:28 
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Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Cruser correction

That's near where my mom lives.  Would you trust a bike that is that old,
and would you expect motor work on a bike that old.  I guess I could fly out
and ride it back. But it would be a big gamble if the engine had a nock or
other major problem.   What's your thoughts.

Ron

  _  

From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 7:39 PM
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Cruser correction

 

If you want conform Ron, this is what you need :)

 

 
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/2932987343.html 

 

Yikes! :)


 

 

 

   

Paul LeBoutillier
 

   

www.hondanighthawks.net  





On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Javier Garcia  wrote:

If you want conform Ron, this is what you need :)

 

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/2932987343.html

 

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1985 Honda Nighthawk S

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Check your battery



---Original Message---
From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: 3/29/2012 9:40 am
To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" 
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1985 Honda Nighthawk S

I have a 85'  Nighthawk S that will not start. The solenoid just
clicks. I was told it needed to be replaced so I did and that did not
solve the problem. Could it need a new starter motor or is there
another direction I should be heading in?

Any help would be appreciated.

Jon

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Cruse bike.

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Goldwing all the way! If you are ok with an older one there are alot of good 
deals out there



---Original Message---
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Sent: 3/29/2012 9:25 am
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Cruse bike.

I have a question on motorcycles in general.  I have been thinking of
getting a new bike... a Kawasaki Concours. I like their sportyness, but now
I have been reading the Concours has an annoying buzz, highway pegs are very
difficult, they run very hot, and require a boat of upgrades like handlebar
risers, cruse control and stuff.   I want a bike I can take a 4 hour trip
without stopping because of road or chain vibration, small tank, and a sore
butt.   What bike would you suggest, if your main concern was comfort?

Ron

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb Cleaners

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Dont forget that it also cures aids, cancer, erectile dysfunction, old age, and 
marrage!



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From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: 3/28/2012 11:05 am
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb Cleaners

Ron,
Seafoam will clean your carbs, your prostate, your spleen,
liver, heart valves and even restore hair from balding heads.
:-)
 You've stumbled on a running group joke :-)
And yes - I run it in my bike!
  -Joey

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Pastor Ron  wrote:
>
> I looked at some of the old threads on cleaning the carbs with Pinesol. I
> could not find anything.  I don't understand why they use this rather than
> carb cleaners.  Are they still taking the carb all apart with Pinesol?
>
> Is Seafoam safe on Motorcycles? One guy told me a while back that it eats
> the rubber parts.  What's the verdict?
>
> Ron
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Still thinking about bikes for my GF

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

1800 for a non running hyosung. And its a 250??? 800 and i might think about, 
but i would still probly walk away. I think your getting hosed bro.
yeti



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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Still thinking about bikes for my GF

All,
   GF and I are going to look at a 2008 Hyosung with just over
6,000 miles on it tonight. Its a 250 - but it won't start. They don't
know why. The starter has been replaced and that didn't apparently
make it work. I've got the price knocked down to $1800 but still
wondering if its a bit of a gamble at that price.
   Any thoughts?
   Also, we're not sure that she'll even fit on it yet so - well -
she might come up short :-)
-Joey

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] snow riding

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Ok, other coast from me. Enjoy the trip!



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Sent: 3/22/2012 8:58 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] snow riding

St. Pete




 From: "greenzer...@gmail.com" 
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] snow riding
 
What part of florida?



---Original Message---
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Sent: 3/22/2012 8:19 am
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] snow riding

We usually get snow this time of year.  And dont even have bikes out of the 
garage yet.  but this year Ive been riding for 3 weeks now.  We have set the 
March record and daily records 3 days in a row now here in the Detroit area.  
With it being in the 80's wondering why I'm going to Florida next week!




From: Mt.-n-Man Chia Bar 
To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!  
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:09 AM
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] snow riding

Today as I got off work I descover that we are have some fluke of a
snow showers here in the Portand Or area. first time I have had to
ride in the snow. How do you keep your visor from fogging up so bad.
thier was about an inch on the roads on my eight mile trip home.  I
took a photo of the tracks I made and posted on
facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/2388383538/

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] He must be a minimalist...

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Mabey the sale was more of a flash in the pan idea.



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] He must be a minimalist...

We should pass an *ordnance* banning these puns.

-Kyle


On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Jeremy Kindy wrote:

> I'm just glad he smells resonable...
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Joey Kelley  wrote:
>
>> Personally - I think that we might want to let the hammer fall on this
>> one - lest we go barreling around the wrong powder keg.
>> -Joey
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Kurt Nolte 
>> wrote:
>> > Half cocked? HALF COCKED? I always fire off with a full charge, thank
>> you
>> > much.
>> >
>> > Though I think this trajectory has started to fall, terminal velocity
>> > reached and it's going ballistic. The round of puns may soon have blown
>> its
>> > wad, so to speak.
>> >
>> > Kurt
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Joey Kelley 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I really think we need to get a pistolgrip on this situation.
>> >> We could all go off half-cocked.
>> >>-Joey
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Kurt Nolte > >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Oh good grief. And here I thought we listers were of a higher caliber
>> >> > than
>> >> > this. It may be a shot in the dark, but I feel as though at least a
>> >> > couple
>> >> > are incurable punsters. Shotgunning words at a situation and hoping
>> >> > something sticks, as it were.
>> >> >
>> >> > Kurt
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Joey Kelley 
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I can see you're trying to rifle a joke out of this.
>> >> >>   -Joey
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Kyle Munz 
>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> That would be a hard job to gauge the scope of, but something to
>> keep
>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>> your sights.
>> >> >>>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] snow riding

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

What part of florida?



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] snow riding

We usually get snow this time of year.  And dont even have bikes out of the 
garage yet.  but this year Ive been riding for 3 weeks now.  We have set the 
March record and daily records 3 days in a row now here in the Detroit area.  
With it being in the 80's wondering why I'm going to Florida next week!




 From: Mt.-n-Man Chia Bar 
To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!  
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:09 AM
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] snow riding
 
Today as I got off work I descover that we are have some fluke of a
snow showers here in the Portand Or area. first time I have had to
ride in the snow. How do you keep your visor from fogging up so bad.
thier was about an inch on the roads on my eight mile trip home.  I
took a photo of the tracks I made and posted on
facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/2388383538/

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] 83 550 Nighthawk

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Try 'the washer mod'. Or backing out your piolt screws half a turn



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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] 83 550 Nighthawk

I am working on a buddy's Nighthawk.I have had the carbs apart and
cleaned them .The trouble is when I start the bike it seems to run
very well,but when I accelarate,it has no power.If i close the choke
approximatley half way, the bikes takes off like a rocket and runs
very well . Seems to me that it is starving for fuel at high speed.
Anyone have any ideas what the problem may be?

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] A Brief Rant on a Monday Morning

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Preach on brother! Same with the girls walking around with croped belly shirts 
that say hd all over them. They couldent tell a harley from a honda, but i 
still like to look!



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] A Brief Rant on a Monday Morning

Hello All,
   This morning I asked a person who parked next to me with
large decals on their truck with the brand name of a certain
motorcycle - if they rode. Nope. Neither her, nor her Husband, rode.
Ok maybe I'm just old fashioned but if I go around with say, a big
decal of Honda on my truck, it might be a reasonable assumption that I
had a Honda bike, ATV, something. Oh no, instead, we just put the name
on the truck to look 'cool' or 'rugged' and let everyone THINK we're
awesome.
   Is anyone else annoyed by this?
   -Joey
PS - I do have a head cold and this may be amplifying my annoyance

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Goldwing

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I have had my goldwing for almost 2 years now, and i just turned 29. Make fun 
of me all you want for driving a grandpa bike, i love it! i have a super smothe 
bike with tons of power that can carry alot of gear that can run all day 
comfortbly. None of the hd guys can say that... And i only paid 500 for it! 
Cant beat that deal



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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Goldwing

+1
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Goldwing

Old age is 15yrs. older than what you are.


rodhall
cb550sc



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To: nighthawk_lovers 
Sent: Sun, Mar 11, 2012 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Goldwing


My dad has always had one wing or another, I think that's why I relate them as 
an "old man's bike".


-Kyle 



On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Paul  wrote:


On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:43 PM, surfswab  wrote:


May be an old man's bike, but these old men sure know how to have some
fun.



Kinda funny to hear that a Wing is an "old man's bike." I got my first 
full-dressed Goldwing when I was in my EARLY twenties, and here I am in my 
fifties and driving a cruiser. (I think I'm going backwards.) 






Paul LeBoutillier 



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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Helmet

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Its a good rule of thumb. Not the end all and be all in my book. Depends on use 
and frequency of use



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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Helmet

  Hi guys,  I was told yesterday at the honda dealer. That a helmet is
only good for about 4 or 5 years. Because it deteriorates due to the
sun. Does this make sense or is he trying to sell helmets?  thank
you
Fred.

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Favorite Saddlebags

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Stock goldwing. But thats because im on a goldwing



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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Favorite Saddlebags

I currently have some crappy saddlebags that I found on ebay for a few 
bucks, but I would really like to upgrade this summer (especially since im 
planning a trip around Lake Michigan on the 750).

What kind of saddlebags does everyone use?

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Wish me luck today

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

I have a job interview today at 10:45 am. Wish me luck!
The jobs not much, just a counter posisition at a battery shop. 

Paul annen
Yeti

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Well?

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

At over 6 feet tall my gl 1200 is a great height for me. I can flat foot it on 
both sides no problem. Mine is 700 pounds dry by the book and is beast 
compaired to the bike i sold to get it (99 nh 250) but the handeling and power 
trumps all when its moving!



---Original Message---
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Sent: 3/9/2012 11:55 am
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Well?

*Ron I think your assessment of the GL1100 is insightful and comprehensive.
And you're right, the low-speed footwork issue improves with time.
Personally that was my 5th Goldwing so I was more accustomed to adjusting.
Obviously you can remove the engine guards if you desire. I only put them
on so I could mount highway pegs. When going down the highway I love being
able to sit back with my feet forward and being able to lean back against a
driver backrest. Allows me to go many more miles than if I were just
sitting straight up.*
*
*
*As for handling, you're wording about it being "deceptively light and
easy" is so true. People tend to look at the bulk of a Wing and assume they
are gonna handle like the Titanic trying to get around an iceberg, but once
the Wing is moving they are quite nimble and responsive.**


Paul LeBoutillier
*
*
*
*www.hondanighthawks.net*



On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:34 PM, surfswab  wrote:

> Good question.
>
> Compared to my NH750, first impression is just pure riding comfort.
> You hear people say it's an old man's bike.  Well, I AM an old man and
> it's true.  I would compare its ride quality to a Chevy Camaro vs.
> maybe a modern Caddy or Lincoln Town Car.
>
> But It doesn't wallow or float, just kinda takes the bumps in stride
> with well-damped rhythm and keeps on motorin'.  It's definitely not a
> bouncy machine.  Part of that is due to weight.  It topped out on our
> freight scale at 680 lbs., semi-wet (about a gallon and a half of gas
> in a 5-gallon tank)
>
> Second, is available torque.  It's a low-revving motor to start with,
> comparatively-speaking, and the power band is down low, not up in nose-
> bleed territory near the red line like most Japanese bikes.  I tried
> roll ons in every gear and was very satisfied with the response.
>
> Acceleration is not hyper like the 750.  It's much more subtle and I
> found myself going faster than I actually perceived, based on gear
> selection and engine sound.  Exhaust note is very mellow and the motor
> just doesn't sound like its working all that hard.
>
> My quibble at the moment, based on very little riding, is low-speed
> footwork.  Though the seat height is just about the same, the opposed-
> cylinder engine is much wider than the 750, I found it more difficult
> to get my long legs away from the motor and my feet down smoothly,
> coming to a stop -- and up on the pegs from a standing start.  Part of
> that is probly habit and unfamiliarity, but it seems awkward.  A
> contributing factor is this bike has crash bars that stick out another
> few inches beyond the cylinders and the foot pegs are very close to
> the cylinder heads.
>
> An oddity is handling, compared to the 750.  The gas tank and bulk of
> the engine are below seat-height on this bike, so the center of
> gravity is not that high off the ground.  Handling is deceptively
> light and easy for a relatively heavy bike.
>
> Fit and finish are, no question, superior to the 750.  A review I read
> described it as over-engineered and I tend to agree.  But I'd be quick
> to add that I've developed a new found appreciation for over-
> engineered machines.
>
> This is not your cross-town errand runner.  It's a road warrior, and I
> like that.
>
> Anyway, that's what little I know, based on a hundred miles or so of
> piddlin' around with it.
>
>
>
> On Mar 8, 10:12 pm, "Allen Thomas"  wrote:
> > So now that you have had a decent ride on her, what are your thoughts?
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: surfswab 
> >
> > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:00:00
> > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
> > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Well?
> >
> > Okaaay...bike's titled, tagged, gassed and ensconsed in its new home.
> > Had to rent a bigger space it'll share with its NH750 roomie and
> > assorted household flotsam.  But it's all by its lonesome for the time
> > being.
> >
> > Since it's now legal I had to ride it there by way of McDonough (for
> > non-Georgians, that's not real far, but it's not a straight line  from
> > Conley to Forest Park either, if you catch my drift).  Took about all
> > the daylight I had left after dealing with motor vehicle bureaucrats
> > most of the day.
> >
> > I'll be looking for the care package, Paul.  Got a tracking number?
> >
> > On Mar 8, 4:21 am, Paul LeBoutillier  wrote:
> > > Wonderful! I couldn't be happier.
> >
> > > Oregon also requires a VIN inspection on all out-of-state transfers b

RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Well?

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

---Original Message---
From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: 3/9/2012 11:55 am
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Well?

*Ron I think your assessment of the GL1100 is insightful and comprehensive.
And you're right, the low-speed footwork issue improves with time.
Personally that was my 5th Goldwing so I was more accustomed to adjusting.
Obviously you can remove the engine guards if you desire. I only put them
on so I could mount highway pegs. When going down the highway I love being
able to sit back with my feet forward and being able to lean back against a
driver backrest. Allows me to go many more miles than if I were just
sitting straight up.*
*
*
*As for handling, you're wording about it being "deceptively light and
easy" is so true. People tend to look at the bulk of a Wing and assume they
are gonna handle like the Titanic trying to get around an iceberg, but once
the Wing is moving they are quite nimble and responsive.**


Paul LeBoutillier
*
*
*
*www.hondanighthawks.net*



On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:34 PM, surfswab  wrote:

> Good question.
>
> Compared to my NH750, first impression is just pure riding comfort.
> You hear people say it's an old man's bike.  Well, I AM an old man and
> it's true.  I would compare its ride quality to a Chevy Camaro vs.
> maybe a modern Caddy or Lincoln Town Car.
>
> But It doesn't wallow or float, just kinda takes the bumps in stride
> with well-damped rhythm and keeps on motorin'.  It's definitely not a
> bouncy machine.  Part of that is due to weight.  It topped out on our
> freight scale at 680 lbs., semi-wet (about a gallon and a half of gas
> in a 5-gallon tank)
>
> Second, is available torque.  It's a low-revving motor to start with,
> comparatively-speaking, and the power band is down low, not up in nose-
> bleed territory near the red line like most Japanese bikes.  I tried
> roll ons in every gear and was very satisfied with the response.
>
> Acceleration is not hyper like the 750.  It's much more subtle and I
> found myself going faster than I actually perceived, based on gear
> selection and engine sound.  Exhaust note is very mellow and the motor
> just doesn't sound like its working all that hard.
>
> My quibble at the moment, based on very little riding, is low-speed
> footwork.  Though the seat height is just about the same, the opposed-
> cylinder engine is much wider than the 750, I found it more difficult
> to get my long legs away from the motor and my feet down smoothly,
> coming to a stop -- and up on the pegs from a standing start.  Part of
> that is probly habit and unfamiliarity, but it seems awkward.  A
> contributing factor is this bike has crash bars that stick out another
> few inches beyond the cylinders and the foot pegs are very close to
> the cylinder heads.
>
> An oddity is handling, compared to the 750.  The gas tank and bulk of
> the engine are below seat-height on this bike, so the center of
> gravity is not that high off the ground.  Handling is deceptively
> light and easy for a relatively heavy bike.
>
> Fit and finish are, no question, superior to the 750.  A review I read
> described it as over-engineered and I tend to agree.  But I'd be quick
> to add that I've developed a new found appreciation for over-
> engineered machines.
>
> This is not your cross-town errand runner.  It's a road warrior, and I
> like that.
>
> Anyway, that's what little I know, based on a hundred miles or so of
> piddlin' around with it.
>
>
>
> On Mar 8, 10:12 pm, "Allen Thomas"  wrote:
> > So now that you have had a decent ride on her, what are your thoughts?
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: surfswab 
> >
> > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:00:00
> > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
> > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Well?
> >
> > Okaaay...bike's titled, tagged, gassed and ensconsed in its new home.
> > Had to rent a bigger space it'll share with its NH750 roomie and
> > assorted household flotsam.  But it's all by its lonesome for the time
> > being.
> >
> > Since it's now legal I had to ride it there by way of McDonough (for
> > non-Georgians, that's not real far, but it's not a straight line  from
> > Conley to Forest Park either, if you catch my drift).  Took about all
> > the daylight I had left after dealing with motor vehicle bureaucrats
> > most of the day.
> >
> > I'll be looking for the care package, Paul.  Got a tracking number?
> >
> > On Mar 8, 4:21 am, Paul LeBoutillier  wrote:
> > > Wonderful! I couldn't be happier.
> >
> > > Oregon also requires a VIN inspection on all out-of-state transfers but
> > > those are done at the DMV office at the time of registration.
> >
> > > I'm glad the GL made the trip safely. :-)
> >
> > > Sent from my Xoom Tablet powered by Android
> > > On Mar 7, 2012 6:00 PM, "surfswab"  wrote:
> >
> > > > Indeed it did.  In fa

RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] 82 CB450SC Project Update

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

What part of orlando are u in? Im in sanford. As far as new brake lines i would 
try cycle gear or j&p cycles



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Sent: 3/8/2012 5:00 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] 82 CB450SC Project Update

So the rebuild is complete.  Lots of rusty chrome still, but she runs well
enough to drive me to work yesterday and today.  I ran home for lunch today
and realized I had some brake fluid leaking out of the reservoir and half
way home the motor seemed to get much rougher over a few minutes of riding,
and then was threatening to stall at traffic lights afterwards. I decided
to drive the car back after lunch and park the bike back in the garage
again until I can resolve the brake leak and get the motor purring nice and
smooth again (I'm guessing some residual rust from the tank got by my fuel
filter, or perhaps some gunk broke free in the carb and is gumming
something up).  All in all though it was great to get it on the road for a
couple days at least :-/ .  I'm thinking about getting a new braided brake
line for the front if I'm going to replace the reservoir and rebuild the
cylinder with new components again.  Anybody have a source for replacement
stainless brake lines?

-- 
Kevin Green - Orlando, FL
-
1982 Honda Nighthawk 450 - CB450SC

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] New tire, first attempt to start this season

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

I push start the gl1200 in 1st all the time. But i have to (in nutural) push it 
to 5mph hop on click to first and pop the clutch and pull it back. Sometimes i 
can get 2 attempts if i get it to 6-7 mph! 



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To: "Nightwawk Lovers" 
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] New tire, first attempt to start this season

+1 you need to be in 2nd gear or higher. The gear ratio is too high in first on 
any bike/car.
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No, it is just that the gearing is such (on my 700SC anyway), running and
popping the clutch in 1st just locks the rear wheel and does not turn the
engine over. 

 

I once spent some frustrating time doing this until I woke up and put it
into third gear and then I was able to run, pop the clutch and have the
engine turn over and start.

 

Dennis

Christchurch

 

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[mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Snell
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:53 PM
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] New tire, first attempt to start this season

 

Bad clutch?

On Feb 23, 2012 8:45 PM, "Dennis"  wrote:

The rear wheel will lock in 1st gear if you push it or run and pop the
clutch.   You need to be in 3rd or 4th to judge this.

 

Dennis

Christchurch

 

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[mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pat Patterson
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:08 PM
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] New tire, first attempt to start this season

 

Before either jumper cables or either the question must be asked... Is it
turning over? You mentioned that the rear wheel locks up when you try and
push start it. That to me suggests that the engine might be seized or
hydrolocked. 

Pull the plugs, put it in a tall gear (3-6) and push with the clutch out. If
it doesn't push easily you have bad things wrong. If water or fuel gush out
of the plug holes you have bad(water) minor(fuel) problems to deal with as
long as you haven't bent a rod from trying to start it.

After all that once you have a motor that turns over go ahead and jump it.
Make sure the cables go to the bike batt, against the jumper cable rules but
a bike can't trap gasses and your bike batt will protect the rest of the
system from 99% of the badness that could result from using a 1500cca batt
to jump it. All my ATV's and lawn mowers got jumped for the first start of
the season to clean the cobwebs without putting too much load on the little
batt. I now know that improper batt storage was some of my problem but first
of the season starts always seem to take way more cranking than the rest of
the year.

Oh and don't jump it off a 24v bus unless you really know what your doing
;o)


At 04:47 PM 2/23/2012, you wrote:

You might want to consider replacing it, we have seen that be the source of
non running conditions before. I know I'll start a fight saying this but try
jumpering it to a car battery and see if it will start then.
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 - Same battery, charged up. 
 - I am sitting on it. I've push-started it several times last year when I
had a bad starter (which I also replaced).

Stefano

Pat Patterson 
Abbotsford, BC, Canada
VA7PDP

2001 PT Cruiser
83 450 Honda Nighthawk
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] What are some tips for hauling a motorcycle in a truck?

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+1 To kyle. 



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] What are some tips for hauling a motorcycle in 
a truck?

The truck should have D rings at all for corners of the bed to attach to.
On the bike attach to the handlebars down low to the triple-tree, or the
triple-tree itself if you can get to it, up front and the rear grab bar or
something similarly sturdy in back. You don't want to attach to wheels or
forks or swingarms. Tighten the straps down evenly all the way around and
really really compress the suspension, you don't want to bottom it out, but
take up more than 50% of the travel. The tension of the straps will hold
the bike in place, don't use the kickstand or centerstand.

-Kyle


On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:43 PM,  wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm upgrading from the NH to a truck.  I'm riding the motorcycle to pick
> up the vehicle & need to safely get the bike home.
>
> Having a truck is a whole new ball game for me.
>
> I was going to pick up some ratchet tie-downs.  Where are the best spots
> to secure a cycle?
>
> Now that the 550 isn't my sole means of transportation I can give it some
> long needed TLC.
>
> Thanks-
> Bernie
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] 83 NightHawk 650 Fork fluid question

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The factory manuel for my buddys 88 shadow states atf only



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 83 NightHawk 650 Fork fluid question

yes, but one fork will take a little more than the other because of the TRAC 
system

On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Ralf Oehlerich wrote:

> I found a reference online that states 12.75 oz. that is 377 ml per fork.
> Is that close?
> 
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Javier Garcia  wrote:
> The two really look alike, but I am with Kurt on the fact that they also cost 
> about the same, and you can find fork fluid in any motorcycle dealership. I 
> can't answer about the volume of fluid.
> Javier.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Kurt Nolte  wrote:
> Fork oil and ATF were about the same price last time I looked, and with all 
> the detergents and such in ATF I wouldn't. 
> 
> I can't put my hands on the manual at the moment, headed out the door for 
> class.
> 
> -Kurt
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Ralf Oehlerich  wrote:
> Without the manual, I am working on doing the fork seals.
> I wanted to know how much fluid in each fork and if I can use ATF like I 
> normally do on Hondas from the 80s.
> Thanks, Ralf
>  
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: NH 650SC Carb Gasket

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My 86 gl 1200 does not need the mod. 



---Original Message---
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Sent: 2/22/2012 12:38 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: NH 650SC Carb Gasket

On my '96 750 NH two #4 washers per needle are the best set up. I have done
the same thing on a 93 Suzuki gs500e, and I believe also on a '84 GL1200
(Allen?), all giving really good results.

Javier.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:23 AM, surfswab  wrote:

>  shims in there and the bike seems to run rich.>
>
> Much as I hate to admit it, that may be something the PO actually did
> right.  Hondas tend to be cold-blooded (slow to warm up and run right
> and a characteristic mid-throttle hesitation) because the carbs are
> set purposely lean from the factory to avoid running afoul of the EPA.
>
> A common mod to improve throttle response is to insert two Radio Shack
> #4 washers under the needles, in lieu of a trial-and-error rejet. It
> improves performance throughout the range.
>
> I won't let the PO off entirely, though.  It depends on whether he
> used the correct washers.  I forget the exact measurements of the
> washers, but I know #4 works best.  Of course, if he used some other
> washers out of a can he had lying around, he might still be the dufus
> we've accused him of being ;-)
>
> Anyway, #4s would only cost ya a couple bucks, and you'd know you had
> the right ones.
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 6:21 pm, 85_NH650  wrote:
> > Hi Pat.
> > Somehow the ascii drawing got distorted, but you got the picture!
> > Thanks for sharing your knowledge with the group. Now I feel better
> > about installing these gaskets. I guess the POs were reinstalling torn
> > gaskets and used sealant to prevent leaks from the tear and old
> > rubber...
> > I'll be tackling the needle jet next because I think someone put some
> > shims in there and the bike seems to run rich.
> > Thanks again.
> > Richie
> >
> > On Feb 21, 12:24 pm, Pat Patterson  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Nice askii sketch btw. That's called a double lip o-ring. In the
> > > hydraulics world it's the best but can be fussy to get to lay in the
> > > grove properly. You MUST make sure it doesn't get rolled or twisted
> > > on install. Don't use any sealant But a light smear of oil (110% no
> > > dust or grit) can sometimes help it seal for startup. On fussy
> > > sunstrand pumps I've used a very light smear of white lith grease but
> > > carbs don't work at 2500psi so you should be ok.
> >
> > > At 08:02 AM 2/21/2012, you wrote:
> >
> > > >Hi Bob,
> >
> > > >Just to clarify, this is what a cross-section of my gasket looks like.
> > > >The upper part is more 'rounded' of course and fit the carb's groove
> > > >perfectly while the bottom part has a groove inside that runs around
> > > >the entire gasket's shape.
> > > >Richie
> >
> > > >Bowl Side
> > > >  
> > > >/  \
> > > >|  __   |
> > > >|_|  |_|
> >
> > > >Body Side
> >
> > > >On Feb 20, 6:26 pm, bobcat...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > I just looked at a spare carb and was reminded that the gasket is
> a molded
> > > > > o-ring that matches the shape of the groove in the bowl. The
> o-ring looked
> > > > > to be round(cross section).
> >
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM, 85_NH650 
> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Guys,
> >
> > > > > > I finally decided to take the plunge and clean my carbs myself.
> I have
> > > > > > an 85 NH 650 that had terrible recurring issues with hesitation/
> > > > > > choking/stalling at low speeds while performing fine at higher
> speed.
> > > > > > I had the jets cleaned a couple of times but the problems came
> back
> > > > > > within days. This started around the time ethanol was introduced.
> >
> > > > > > I'm still in the process of cleaning the carbs, but I'd like to
> know:
> > > > > > 1). which side of the gasket faces the float bowl (bottom part of
> > > > > > carb): the rounded side or the 'grooved/flat side?
> > > > > > 2). Do I need to use any kind of sealer/compound or RTV (?) type
> stuff
> > > > > > on the gaskets before installing? Or anything else to 'treat' the
> > > > > > gaskets before installation?
> >
> > > > > > It looks like whoever worked on the carbs before used some type
> of
> > > > > > gasket sealing stuff and I had to soak/clean up a mess of old and
> > > > > > newer material that had deteriorated and clumped into the carbs
> and is
> > > > > > probably effecting the low jets. We shall see.
> >
> > > > > > I'd appreciate any help/advice you can give me as this is the
> first
> > > > > > time I tackle this task to cut down on the cost of having
> someone else
> > > > > > do it for me.
> >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> >
> > > > > > Richie
> >
> > > Pat Patterson
> > > Abbotsford, BC, Canada
> > > VA7PDP
> >
> > > 2001 PT Cruiser
> > > 83 450 Honda Nighthawk
> > > 78 F350460/C6 on propane
> > > 71 Bronco 302/C4/D20 D44/9"  {o===o}
> >
> > > "Just add Lightness-"
> > > Colin Chapman. (1928 - 1982)- Hide quoted text -
> >
> 

RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: NH 650SC Carb Gasket

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Couldent have said it better myself surf



---Original Message---
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Sent: 2/21/2012 5:57 am
To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" 
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: NH 650SC Carb Gasket

+1 on ethanol.  It's not the cause of your problem.

And +1 on the gaskets.  They are o-rings and should not have "flat"
spots.

Replace the gaskets, clean out every trace of gasket sealant (and
don't use any more of it), do a scrupulous cleaning of jets, needles
and passages, reassemble and synchronize, and you'll be back in
bidness.

You're biggest problem is the PO (previous owner).  PO's take a lotta
heat around here, but they mostly deserve it.



On Feb 20, 6:26 pm, bobcat...@gmail.com wrote:
> I just looked at a spare carb and was reminded that the gasket is a molded
> o-ring that matches the shape of the groove in the bowl. The o-ring looked
> to be round(cross section).
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM, 85_NH650  wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
>
> > I finally decided to take the plunge and clean my carbs myself. I have
> > an 85 NH 650 that had terrible recurring issues with hesitation/
> > choking/stalling at low speeds while performing fine at higher speed.
> > I had the jets cleaned a couple of times but the problems came back
> > within days. This started around the time ethanol was introduced.
>
> > I'm still in the process of cleaning the carbs, but I'd like to know:
> > 1). which side of the gasket faces the float bowl (bottom part of
> > carb): the rounded side or the 'grooved/flat side?
> > 2). Do I need to use any kind of sealer/compound or RTV (?) type stuff
> > on the gaskets before installing? Or anything else to 'treat' the
> > gaskets before installation?
>
> > It looks like whoever worked on the carbs before used some type of
> > gasket sealing stuff and I had to soak/clean up a mess of old and
> > newer material that had deteriorated and clumped into the carbs and is
> > probably effecting the low jets. We shall see.
>
> > I'd appreciate any help/advice you can give me as this is the first
> > time I tackle this task to cut down on the cost of having someone else
> > do it for me.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Richie
>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] NH 650SC Carb Gasket

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

So your carb problems have been going on sence the mid 80s? Ethonal is less of 
a problem then most want to admit. 

Il get off my soap box now and be helpfull.

NEVER use rtv in your fuel system, thats probly whats causing the isues. What 
you need is a good through physical cleaning to track other problems.



---Original Message---
From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: 2/20/2012 3:23 pm
To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" 
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] NH 650SC Carb Gasket

Hi Guys,

I finally decided to take the plunge and clean my carbs myself. I have
an 85 NH 650 that had terrible recurring issues with hesitation/
choking/stalling at low speeds while performing fine at higher speed.
I had the jets cleaned a couple of times but the problems came back
within days. This started around the time ethanol was introduced.

I'm still in the process of cleaning the carbs, but I'd like to know:
1). which side of the gasket faces the float bowl (bottom part of
carb): the rounded side or the 'grooved/flat side?
2). Do I need to use any kind of sealer/compound or RTV (?) type stuff
on the gaskets before installing? Or anything else to 'treat' the
gaskets before installation?

It looks like whoever worked on the carbs before used some type of
gasket sealing stuff and I had to soak/clean up a mess of old and
newer material that had deteriorated and clumped into the carbs and is
probably effecting the low jets. We shall see.

I'd appreciate any help/advice you can give me as this is the first
time I tackle this task to cut down on the cost of having someone else
do it for me.

Thanks,

Richie

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hybrid Bikes (side tangent)

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Thank you for the numbers break down. As much as i want one i still dont have a 
place to put it or charge it, but i still want one



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Sent: 2/19/2012 7:31 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hybrid Bikes (side tangent)

Well, 70 miles on $3.29 worth of gas is 4.7c per mile. The 6kWh battery
pack of an Empulse 6.0 would cost ME $0.45, so 60 miles on $0.45 of
electricity for .75c per mile.

I will travel an average of 28 miles per day, if you count the days I don't
ride, for a calculated total of 10220 miles per year. @ $3.29 gas and 70mpg
I will use 146 gallons of gasoline and $480.34. With the electric bike and
power prices of $0.15/kWh and 60 miles per charge I will consume 170 charge
cycles and $153.3.

Comparing NEW to NEW, brand new MSRP on a Ninja 250r is $4200. MSRP on the
Empulse is $9995 (unsubsidized). With the spread, it would take 16 years to
pay it back on static prices for fuel and electricity (disregarding oil,
filters and such for engine maintenance). If you take the federal and state
subsidies, the Empulse comes down to ~$7k, which cuts that "payback" in
half.

You'd have to be in it for the long haul to save *money*, I agree. It'd
still be worth it to me to not have to stop and fill up on my commuter duty
bike. :p

-Kurt

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Allen Thomas  wrote:

> **
> I'd love to have an ev that could get me to work and back. I just don't
> see the economic viability when there are 70MPG bikes out there for such a
> drastic cost difference. If I really wanted to make a point I didn't have
> to use the ninja as my IC example, a NH250 sells for less and the Suzuki
> 250 cruiser is even cheaper.
>

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hybrid Bikes (side tangent)

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Well put, but you also have to take into account the reduced "fuel" cost and 
fairly simple maintanice. 

Li ion battries are a much better option, but you can start with wet cells and 
upgrade to better cells as you can afford them



---Original Message---
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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hybrid Bikes (side tangent)

Well, $6k is msrp on most of the ~400cc dual sports I've found. Seems
comparable.

That said, electric and hybrid vehicles aren't universally applicable. If I
had $7.5k to spend right now, I'd buy a Brammo bike. It's perfect for my
needs, and would free me up to buy a dedicated touring bike.

Kurt
On Feb 17, 2012 12:55 PM, "Allen Thomas"  wrote:

> Correction, the second website that Paul listed has 100A/h batteries for
> $135 each so that lowers the  battery cost down to $4000. IMHO $6000 for an
> ev motorcycle that only has the performance of roughly a 300CC IC bike is a
> bit much to spend.
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:
>
>> the cost associated with batteries to provide 100 Amp hours at 96V would
>> be tremendous. Quick check on google it would take 30 of these
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electric-Vehicle-Battery-CALB-LiFePO4-100Ah-EV-Batteries-4-pack-/170765730402#vi-content
>>  connected
>> in serial for a total cost of $17,550, Plus hub motor, controller, charger,
>> and cabling. You are looking at the price of a prius, just to ride a
>> motorcycle on the highway for an hour. It wouldn't get me to work and back.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:27 AM, paul annen wrote:
>>
>>> kurt, i think this is more of what you are looking at?
>>> http://www.electricmotordepot.com/products/EnerTrac-Hub-Motor-MHM602.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:27 AM, paul annen wrote:
>>>
 gerrr it helps if i paste the link
 http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-Your-Own-ELECTRIC-MOTORCYCLE/


 On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:27 AM, paul annen wrote:

> ironically this was in the next email i opened this morning. i havent
> read it yet, but i thought i would post
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:25 AM, paul annen wrote:
>
>> very true, and i also imagined that the reserve battery would also
>> function as the starting battery. with a 24v or higher system, i would
>> recomend replacing the starter with one made for the higher voltages.
>>
>> it might make the bike feel totally different, but what about putting
>> your hub motor in the front wheel?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Kurt Nolte <
>> vturbine.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was actually imagining it going the other way, not sure why I
>>> didn't make that clearer. I envision the motor pack also being the 
>>> starting
>>> battery, as well as the reserve battery.
>>>
>>> One or two 12V cells would be devoted as the "stock" battery, and
>>> with a little coding one could even let the pack controller use the 12V
>>> alternator to recondition cells as life goes on. Any retrofit package 
>>> for
>>> this would likely include a rewound alternator, however.
>>>
>>> I realize not all bikes have a rear drum hub, but then not all bikes
>>> have a chain drive either so that wouldn't be universal either. My 
>>> target
>>> market is still largely drum rears, and it would be easy to swap a drum
>>> rear wheel on those with only disc brakes back there; there are many
>>> options, factory and aftermarket.
>>>
>>> Kurt.
>>> On Feb 16, 2012 12:35 PM, "paul annen" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 you are correct that higher volts will require less amps to do the
 same work (watts is watts is watts), and i do like the retrofit 
 option, you
 could also fairly easily use that rear break to do
 some regenerative functions as well. but not all bikes have the option 
 of a
 rear wheel hub design, you might be better off driving off the existing
 chain. this way you could also incorporate it as a chain tensioner.

 are you imagining using the bikes charging system? we all know that
 these are weak links in the vintage hondas (another side note was a 
 thought
 to have a small 30amp automotive alt mounted on the swing arm with a
 sprocket to bypass the rectifier, spring pull the tension on the alt 
 and
 you have an automatic chain tensioner)


 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Kurt Nolte <
 vturbine.po...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds like a good idea for a Range Extended Battery Electric,
> which I feel is probably where the auto industry is going to head, for
> better or worse.
>
> I like the modular idea, especially the ability to add/subtract
> a

RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hybrid Bikes (side tangent)

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

I got to test ride the bramo bike, i liked it alot. Free test rides at semional 
powersports in sanford fl



---Original Message---
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Sent: 2/17/2012 2:45 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hybrid Bikes (side tangent)

That's why I'm looking more at a hybrid or a hybrid-kit for bikes. If you
were to talk a smaller handful of those packs, plus motor and controller,
you're looking at ~$5-7k (At ebay prices not bulk pricing) and you still
have the gasoline engine.

If it were a factory rolled out, downsized engine bike, sized to provide
good high speed cruising power and using the motor for accelerating oomph,
it could also feature idle stop (with the motor to get you rolling again
while the engine cranks) as well as more fully integrating motor and engine
performance. You could see significant improvements for a relatively small
amount of (additional) money.

All electric bikes are still range limited. I agree with that statement. I
would, however, love to pick up one of the Empulse bikes from Brammo; one
of their Empulse 6.0 (60 mile range, thereabouts) would be FANTASTIC for my
daily needs, and retails ~$7.5k.

Just poking my head in on a break between classes.

-Kurt

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:

> the cost associated with batteries to provide 100 Amp hours at 96V would
> be tremendous. Quick check on google it would take 30 of these
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electric-Vehicle-Battery-CALB-LiFePO4-100Ah-EV-Batteries-4-pack-/170765730402#vi-content
>  connected
> in serial for a total cost of $17,550, Plus hub motor, controller, charger,
> and cabling. You are looking at the price of a prius, just to ride a
> motorcycle on the highway for an hour. It wouldn't get me to work and back.
>
>

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Route 66 on NIghthawks

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

I am in a no funds position myself as well. And no good way to plug in to 
charge overnight, but a guy can dream and talk theory all day long! 



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Route 66 on NIghthawks

Paul,

A co-worker of mine is into electric vehicles.  He bought an old S-10 and
converted it to electric - first with car batteries and now with Li-Ion.
He says he should have gone Li-ion from the start.  See
http://www.greencycledesigngroup.com/gcdg/ (newer project) and
http://www.backyardgreen.net/ (S-10).  He's spoken with me a bit about
motorcycles, but I don't have the funding to pursue one.

Jeremy

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:42 AM, paul annen  wrote:

> well, my idea was to use as many stock Honda parts as i could, so that i
> could market it to honda after. i also want to use a 24v system. this is to
> make the charging system easy. motor controller and basic battery set on
> the chassis with modular extra batteries in saddle bags and a "trunk" with
> the engine and mobile charger (also modular). my engine/mobile charger is
> about as simple as it gets, small engine (can offer diffrent engine sets
> for gas, diesel, LP ) set at a constant rpm coupled to a 24v automotive
> alt (yes they make them, mostly for bigger trucks).
>
> the modular thought is that if your daily commute is short enough you dont
> need the extra weight (and wear) from the engine and batteries, simply plug
> it in to charge, but longer commutes the extra batteries might be needed,
> for longer trips you will want to have the engine for "on the road"
> charging. yes, while cruising you will probably use more power then the alt
> can keep up with, but if you stop every so often (and leave the charging
> engine running) you can build charge back up.
>
> my first concept was using standard car batteries, (i was 12, cut me some
> slack) now i am thinking that li ion makes a much better choice, but thats
> also where the modular design comes in, as battery tech improves, you can
> upgrade without scrapping the whole bike.
>
> not that ive spent any time thinking about this at all.. comments
> and suggestions are welcome..
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Kurt Nolte wrote:
>
>> Funny you mention that, Paul, I recently had some thoughts on that very
>> subject.
>>
>> Skull session? I'll share my thoughts if you want to pop in yours. :D
>>
>> Kurt
>> On Feb 16, 2012 9:37 AM, "paul annen"  wrote:
>>
>>> great story, i had planed on making that trip on the diesel/electric
>>> hybrid bikes i never built..
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Kyle Munz  wrote:
>>>
 Great story, welcome to the group.

 -Kyle


 On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:

> I finally got to read your ride report. I envy you. I'd love to be
> able to make a trip like that. Welcome to the group.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:23 PM, surfswab  wrote:
>
>> Hi Amy,
>>
>> Well-ridden (and well-written).
>>
>> Should you ever harbor thoughts of an encore, meet my girl friend (I
>> wish) Lois, of Lois On The Loose for a little inspiration and
>> encouragement:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIDSoL5qYDw
>>
>> Welcome to the group.
>>
>> On Feb 15, 11:28 am, Paul  wrote:
>> > *Hey Amy! Welcome to the group and congrats on the ride and terrific
>> > article!! I just finished reading it.*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *How did you find our group, and do you have any rides planned for
>> the
>> > future?*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *Paul*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *P.S. How did you find our group?
>> > **
>> >
>> > Paul LeBoutillier
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *www.hondanighthawks.net*
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Amy  wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > > I thought this would be a good way to introduce myself and my
>> > > NIghthawk.
>> > >
>> http://womenridersnow.com/pages/READER_STORY_Defying_the_Odds_on_Old_.
>> ..
>> >
>> > > Amy
>> >
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Finally selling my current bike

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

I have a gl1200, a little newer then pauls (86) it is 700 pounds and acts like 
it. Keep the carbs clean because pulling them and putting them back is a real 
pain. I do love it and pauls looks to be in great shape



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To: "Nightwawk Lovers" 
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Finally selling my current bike

This is what I know about them, since I would like to own one. Its an 1100, 
shaft bike. They are not small, and they are HEAVY. Not to dissuade you at all 
I'd love to have one, great torque, low seat height, comfortable, and very 
nimble for a bike that size. Paul's is a beautiful example, you would do well 
to get it. They have a cult following so parts are still available and they 
have an active enthusiast  community. They do require timing belt changes but 
that's is both cheap and easy, they have points but an electronic conversion is 
available. Just don't let the carbs get gummed up, rebuild kits are really 
expensive. They probably require periodic valve adjustments but those would be 
easy I imagine since the valve covers are fully exposed, and the engine is a 
low RPM motor. Other than fluid changes I can't imagine any other maintenance 
requirements, besides wear item replacement. The GL line is noted for their 
reliability.
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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Finally selling my current bike

*Hi Paul,
Are you the Paul that runs this site?
About your Gold Wing.  How big is the engine?
Is it shaft or chain driven?
What kind of maintenance have you done and what should I expect if I am the
new owner?
Looks beautiful but smaller than I thought a GL would be? Where abouts are
you in Canada in relation to California?

Robert*

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Paul  wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:46 PM, surfswab  wrote:
> *Fell on my tailbone over Christmas, so concentrating on finding
> a comfortable sitting position has been occupying most of my time,
> lately.*
> *
>
> Bummer!! Sorry about the fall. That stinks! Hope you're all healed up soon!
> *
> *
> *
> *Paul*
> *
>
>
> Paul LeBoutillier
> *
> *
> *
> *www.hondanighthawks.net*
>
>
>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] 45 MPH Vibration

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Graham, you are just full of them today. Glad we can keep things light here!



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 45 MPH Vibration

when did you have your last chiropractor adjustment?

On Feb 4, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:

> When was the last time you replaced the head bearings?
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 14:58:23 -0500 (EST)
> To: 
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> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] 45 MPH Vibration
>
> Lately, my 92 NH has developed a vibration that starts about 40  
> mph, gets strongest at 45, and disappears after 55.  At 45, if I  
> take my hands off the bars, it's strong enough to induce a strong  
> head shake.
>
> Bike has high miles, about 117K, but tires look good and everything  
> seems aligned on a visual glance. Anybody got a clue where this may  
> be coming from and how to fix it?  Other than that, the bike runs  
> fine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay S
> 92 NH750
> South Florida
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Best of Craigslist?

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

At over 6 feet tall my nh 250 was just short enough to flat foot. I would go 
with the rebel. There known for there low seat height



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Best of Craigslist?

Allen,
   I'm in Maine - a whole 12-16 hour ride away from PA :-)
   The area is so small - they don't divide Craigslist up by city!
   At the moment we're leaning towards a 250 Rebel or NH (probably
a rebel as I seem to find more of them available) to get her on a bike
and riding then if she likes it - upgrading to something larger.
   -Joey

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Allen Thomas  wrote:
> Joey, your in PA right? What are you interested in and how much are you 
> looking to spend. I have seen a bunch of Kawa 454, and a few Rebels, piles of 
> KZ and GS 400-650 CC, and a bunch of shadow 700 on CL. Also Javier has a nice 
> GS500 that he wants to sell. I use searchtempest.com to search multiple 
> cities on craigslist.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Joey Kelley 
> Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 08:14:15
> To: 
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> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Best of Craigslist?
>
> I dunno Hour and a Half drive.
>      Besides - what we're looking for is a bike for my GF - which
> means a short legged model.
>       -Joey
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:11 AM, greenzer...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
>> But for 600 i would go take a look. More intrested in the older one tho
>>
>>
>>
>> ---Original Message---
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>> Sent: 1/17/2012 10:09 am
>> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Best of Craigslist?
>>
>> I just can't get over the 'I don't know what model but its Blue' part
>> - I mean - it could be a GoldWing or a Magna or a NH and there is a
>> huge difference!
>>       -Joey
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Kurt Nolte  wrote:
>>> That is a gem, sure, but without blurry winter garage pics out cannot be a
>>> valid entry.
>>>
>>> We have to have standards, after all!
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2012 7:48 AM, "Joey Kelley"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well... I dunno...
>>>> http://maine.craigslist.org/mcy/2798918139.html
>>>>          -Joey
>>>>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Best of Craigslist?

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But for 600 i would go take a look. More intrested in the older one tho



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Best of Craigslist?

I just can't get over the 'I don't know what model but its Blue' part
- I mean - it could be a GoldWing or a Magna or a NH and there is a
huge difference!
   -Joey

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Kurt Nolte  wrote:
> That is a gem, sure, but without blurry winter garage pics out cannot be a
> valid entry.
>
> We have to have standards, after all!
>
> Kurt
>
> On Jan 17, 2012 7:48 AM, "Joey Kelley"  wrote:
>>
>> Well... I dunno...
>> http://maine.craigslist.org/mcy/2798918139.html
>>          -Joey
>>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Leak down compression test? Im having simalar issues with my diesel



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

gravity fed, no enrichener circuit

On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:24 PM, surfswab wrote:

> +1 on enrichener circuit.  Or a vacuum leak maybe.
>
> Gravity-fed or fuel pump?
>
>
> On Jan 14, 1:15 pm, Graham Rogers  wrote:
>> I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I  
>> can
>> get it started.  No matter what the temperature is (at least so far
>> this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into
>> each air cleaner intake to get the bike started.  It won't take any
>> choke.  In fact the choke just 'chokes' it.  Without using the choke,
>> even in 40 degree 'garage temp', just the smallest shot of fluid and
>> the bike starts right up and quickly settles in to a nice idle.  It
>> will start again as often as I try it,  without starting fluid, until
>> it's completely cold (like next day), and then it's back to starting
>> fluid to get it going again.  Any suggestions as to what's going on?
>> It has new air filters, new oil and plugs.  It wasn't running when I
>> bought the bike a couple of weeks ago.  Graham
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] kickstarters

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

As far as a modern bike with a kicker, check into ural or royal enfield



---Original Message---
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Sent: 1/9/2012 10:32 pm
To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" 
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] kickstarters

Hello all...Hope everyone had and is having a Happy New Year!

I haven't been here in a while, but I do have a question that I am
sure you guys can help me with.

I have my NH...and I love it and have no reason or intention of
getting rid of it...but I would like to add to my collection.  I want
a small Harley, just because its american made...and I want a sports
bike because its really FAST!...but I also want a street legal
motorcycle with a kickstarter.

As a child/teenager I used to pretend my bike was a motorcycle...going
as far as kickstarting it with my kickstand!  I know, stupid and
immature, but that's how much I've always loved motorcycles. Today, I
was watching TombRaider and saw Lara Croft (A.Jolie) jump on her bike,
kickstart it and take off!!!...That's what took me back to memory
lane.

SO...with all that said...what do y'all know about more contemporary
street legal motorcycles with kickstarters...do they make them or do I
have to get an older model?

Thanks guys

NghthwkLvr

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] kickstarters

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If you want american made your options are not limited to HD. Personaly i would 
rather have an indian or victory, there both more made in the us then HD.



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Sent: 1/9/2012 10:32 pm
To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" 
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] kickstarters

Hello all...Hope everyone had and is having a Happy New Year!

I haven't been here in a while, but I do have a question that I am
sure you guys can help me with.

I have my NH...and I love it and have no reason or intention of
getting rid of it...but I would like to add to my collection.  I want
a small Harley, just because its american made...and I want a sports
bike because its really FAST!...but I also want a street legal
motorcycle with a kickstarter.

As a child/teenager I used to pretend my bike was a motorcycle...going
as far as kickstarting it with my kickstand!  I know, stupid and
immature, but that's how much I've always loved motorcycles. Today, I
was watching TombRaider and saw Lara Croft (A.Jolie) jump on her bike,
kickstart it and take off!!!...That's what took me back to memory
lane.

SO...with all that said...what do y'all know about more contemporary
street legal motorcycles with kickstarters...do they make them or do I
have to get an older model?

Thanks guys

NghthwkLvr

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] January 6,2012

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What is this winterize you talk about? I know i dont ride as much when it gets 
cold (35f) but its not bad enough to do anything special for the bike...  
(Just a joke from the sunshine state... )



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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] January 6,2012

Nice 50 degree day here in Detroit.  Got the bike out and went for a nice 
ride.  Now I have to rewinterize it!
 
Mack
 
1982 750 NH

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: www.nighthawk750.com is down

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My 250 kept loosing the exaust header gaskets. That made it super loud

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---Original Message---
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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: www.nighthawk750.com is down

I agree with the comment about total removal being too loud. There's a 250
here in my area with he cores removed from the stock exhaust, it's louder
than a bleeding Harley.

Kurt
On Dec 21, 2011 8:31 AM, "surfswab"  wrote:

> Yep.  Radio Shack no.4 washers.  I remember that
> much of the write-ups at nighthawk.750.
>
> Seems I also recall four quarter-inch holes specified
> in each funnel on the Hodge mod, but I'm not as
> certain of that remembrance.
>
> On Dec 20, 5:25 pm, "Allen Thomas"  wrote:
> > If you are at roughly sea level, try turning out your pilot screws to 3
> to 3 1/4 turns and stick 2 washers under each needle.  Installing larger
> jets will give you more power across the board, but those mods will make
> the bike run better when cold, and give a little more power from low to mid
> range.
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ryan Bray 
> >
> > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:06:23
> > To: 
> > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers]www.nighthawk750.comis down
> >
> > Thanks for the heads up Allen. Swiss cheese it is!
> >
> > I have to go outta town this weekend for the holidays but can't wait to
> get
> > at it next week. I'll try and get some pics for the thread
> > before/during/after...
> >
> > -Ryan
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:10 AM, Allen Thomas 
> wrote:
> >
> > > You can swiss cheese the heck out of it and it will be fine all you
> really
> > > need is the plate at the end. Total removal is too loud.
> > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: sdguero 
> > > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> > > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:05:18
> > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
> > > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers]www.nighthawk750.comis down
> >
> > > Hey guys,
> >
> > > Just bought a '93 Nighthawk a few weeks ago and was looking around
> > > online to see if I could do something for the exhaust without spending
> > > $350 (the bike was only $1500!). Unfortunately thewww.nighthawk750.com
> > > site appears to be down now. :(
> >
> > > I saw some brief instructions on this thread for the washer mod and
> > > found a youtube video for the hodge exhaust mod. I think i'm going to
> > > try them out soon...
> >
> > > Any thoughts on drilling larger holes in the exhaust (1/2 or 5/8th
> > > inch) for a deeper growl?
> >
> > > Also, my cousin, who is very mechanically inclined (I'm somewhat), was
> > > recommending I remove the baffles entirely and have a shop tack weld
> > > in a piece of steel into the muffler to maintain back pressure. I kind
> > > of like this idea because I'm really looking for as much noise and
> > > rumble as possible.
> >
> > > This is a commuter bike and I want people to hear me coming on the San
> > > Diego freeways...
> >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Ryan
> >
> > > PS Any replies are appreciated. I will report back on what I find once
> > > I apply the mods. It will probably be a couple weeks. Thanks again!
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] STOP EMAILING ME

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

U need to unsubscribe. Yelling at every one wont do anything



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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] '83 Nighthawk 550 starting problems

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Had a similar issue on the dinghy and the big boat. Check the conections. Take 
them all off clean them with a wire brush or sand paper and re-tighten. Pay 
close attention to the high amp conections and grounds



---Original Message---
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Sent: 11/25/2011 7:11 pm
To: "Nighthawk Lovers" 
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] '83 Nighthawk 550 starting problems

I just checked out a friend's CB550SC.  It starts and runs fine but  
once it has warmed up and run a while it won't restart after  
switching off the ignition.  It turns over real slow.  He is able to  
bump start it easily. But once the engine is cold it starts again  
fine. We checked the charging system and it is fine.  He rebuilt the  
starter motor.  He put in a new battery last year and has kept it on  
a maintainer.  If it was a bad battery why would it turn over like it  
should after the bike is cold.  I thought it may have been the  
charging system and the battery recovered after sitting for a while  
and thus the bike would start.  Any suggestions, any one had similar  
problem?  Graham

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983 Honda Magna 750

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If i were to get some my fiance would kill me... Shes a native flordia girl



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Sent: 11/25/2011 12:58 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983 Honda Magna 750

On behalf of Paul and everyone south of I-10 I'd like to ask that you keep
that cold white stuff to yourselves. Thank you :)

-Kyle
On Nov 25, 2011 9:44 AM, "Ian Edward Baker" 
wrote:

> Ah, you're lucky if there is not much snow where you are. Here in Quebec
> there is plenty. Want some? Free shipping.
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:57 AM, paul annen  wrote:
>
>> i dont have a car, i ride my GL1200 daily, all kinds of wind and rain (we
>> dont get much of that white powdery stuff (from the sky)). i love it and
>> where i might not be enough of a mechanic to fix "anything that might
>> break" i have a buddy that is and im constantly over
>> his shoulder learning..
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Ian Edward Baker <
>> harleyincan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Indeed they are. I might even consider them to be among the most
>>> dedicated. And yes, those bikes look to be complicated machines to fix. I'm
>>> not knocking the older Harley guys, heck I was one ( still old though)
>>> myself. It just seems the younger crowd are buying them for different
>>> reasons. Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote:
>>>
 I've noticed that BMW riders are out in all the elements, though I
 don't think they'll be fixing those complicated bikes on the side of the
 road!

 -Kurt

 On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Ian Edward Baker <
 harleyincan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Sean. I'll have to look up an 82NH650, a lot of this is new to
> me. You know what I like about this site and the riders of Japanese bikes?
> It's all about riding and not what you ride. I felt this way when I had my
> Sporty for 9 years. It's not the same anymore as far as the newer and
> younger crowd get into Harleys. It seems to me now most are just posers
> with the mean face and expensive attire. I doubt any of them would be
> willing to ride the weather I have been through and be able to fix their
> bikes on the side of the road. But I still see riders on their Japanese
> bikes out in weather that any sane person wouldn't be. My rant.
>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Correct NH Volts

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

I dont see anything wrong with that



---Original Message---
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Sent: 11/18/2011 6:08 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Correct NH Volts

Recently, one of our more knowing posters on electrical systems said:

 "12v wet cell battery from a Nighthawk ... will have no more than 12.4 volts 
at rest. A 
running 12v vehicle will *normally* have 13.2v-14.7v."

The voltmeter I installed on my hi-miles NH shows anywhere from 12.3-12.6v 
parked, then on initial highway speed, first jumps to 15 or even 15.1v, after a 
minute dropping to 14.7 to 14.9 for the rest of the ride. except when stopped 
at a light, when I see 13.2v.  Everything seems to work ok, but are these 
readings a sign of trouble to come? And if so, what components would be 
suspect? Thanks,

Jay S
03 NH750 (113M miles)
South Florida

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] shipping from PA to Atlanta GA

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Better yet, my number is 386-314 -3160 if u want to give me a callyeti 
(paul annen)



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] shipping from PA to Atlanta GA

I can get the bike to Woodbridge, VA 22193 if need be.  That would  
still be $300 for anyone to get it from there to Atlanta,  Graham

On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Bill Sandifer wrote:

> In the past, I've used UShip and have gotten some great deals. If  
> you're patient and flexible, you can really get an excellent rate.  
> www.uship.com
>
> I had a Honda C70 Passport shipped from upstate New York to Raleigh  
> NC for a bit under $200. These guys are mostly independent  
> contractors who arrange their routes to minimize time/fuel  
> consumption, and I've had three excellent ones in a row over the  
> last few years.  Bill S.
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Graham Rogers  
>  wrote:
> Anyone interested in shipping a 1982 Kawasaki 550LTD (in showroom  
> condition) from PA to Atlanta GA for $300? Graham
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] shipping from PA to Atlanta GA

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Il ask my dad. Hes meeting me in nc coming from bowie md



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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] shipping from PA to Atlanta GA

I can get the bike to Woodbridge, VA 22193 if need be.  That would  
still be $300 for anyone to get it from there to Atlanta,  Graham

On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Bill Sandifer wrote:

> In the past, I've used UShip and have gotten some great deals. If  
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> NC for a bit under $200. These guys are mostly independent  
> contractors who arrange their routes to minimize time/fuel  
> consumption, and I've had three excellent ones in a row over the  
> last few years.  Bill S.
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Graham Rogers  
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] shipping from PA to Atlanta GA

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Il be going from newport nc back to nsb fl on black friday, but it would need 
to be on a trailer



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The buyer isTrying Uship.com

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> www.uship.com
>
> I had a Honda C70 Passport shipped from upstate New York to Raleigh  
> NC for a bit under $200. These guys are mostly independent  
> contractors who arrange their routes to minimize time/fuel  
> consumption, and I've had three excellent ones in a row over the  
> last few years.  Bill S.
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Graham Rogers  
>  wrote:
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> condition) from PA to Atlanta GA for $300? Graham
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Thank You Veterans!

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Thank you.Yetiusn cvn-71 dont forget your free subway today



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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Thank You Veterans!

All,
Its Veteran's Day here in the USA and although I know we're an
international group - I still like to mark the occasion by thanking
all of our members who have fought for the cause of Freedom.
Thank You!
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] too quiet...

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Took the wing out in fl yesterday. Need to fix my ignition problem, 75 miles on 
2/3 of a 5 gal tank. I think its the cdi. No fire on the rear cylenders, but 
intermitant based on engine load like its timing advance is messed up 



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It was raining tonight but I rode to work anyways, I can't remember the
last time I took the car anywhere :]

--Damion
Richmond Va

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Allen Thomas wrote:

> Cold and wet here in the Peoples Republic of Maryland.
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> Too quiet on the forum today, so I'll *bump* this thread to the top.
> I'd have to assume that Seasonal Affective Disorder has taken over all the
> bikers... :(
>
> Anyone get snowed on today?
> Here in the Central Valley of California it only snows once every ten
> years.
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Tach

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Yea! Another sailor! Intrested in your boat too. Im a live aborad on an 83 
morgan 416oi ketch at anchor in new smyerna beach fl



---Original Message---
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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Tach

Any help on a place to send a tach (1997NH) to be repaired. Also I am probably 
looking in all the wrong places but I would like to install guards on each end 
of the handlebars like some of the duel sport bikes have. I am wanting to 
reduce the "wind chill" factor on my  hands. Plan on trying to put "heater 
grips" also but thought the guards might help.

Sandy,
aboard the sailing vessel
"Namaste' "

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RE: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] lost head light and running lights .

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

What u need is 6v golf cart battries so u can keep one in each saddle bag and 
keep the bike ballanced.



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] lost head light and running lights .

I need one of those for my GL :)
Javier.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Kurt Nolte  wrote:

> Not sure if this is true for all buses, but ours have a single bank of
> four batteries. Ours are standard 12v lead-acid wet cells, configured into
> two parallel sub-banks of two batteries hooked up in parallel. This gives
> the system two 12v "rails" to power the accessories, lights and controls,
> and by tapping the two banks in series you get the monster 24v rail.
>
> Our batteries weigh in 2-3 times a standard car battery, two man lift
> items. 770 cca and a large four digit amp-hour rating. Hefty SOBs for sure,
> and they can really power a bus. I have seen an alternator exciter go out
> mid shift, the bus finished six hours on battery alone...
>
> Kurt
>
> On Nov 8, 2011 8:04 AM, "Allen Thomas"  wrote:
>
> **
> Thanks for the clarification Kurt. I was concerned he charge the battery
> with a 24V charger. Especially if he started the bike while hooked up to
> the charger. I could see that burning out bulbs and frying wires. Btw do
> they step down a 24V battery bank to get 12V, or do they have two banks of
> batteries? Just curious.
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> Some bus systems run 12v, others 24v, so usually the power strips have
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RE: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] lost head light and running lights .

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Thats basicly how my boat is wired, except im using 80 pound 6v golf cart 
battries wired up in 3 12v banks with a seprate starting battery (900 cca for a 
60 hp diesel)... No such thing as overkill on a boat



---Original Message---
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Subject: Re: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] lost head light and running lights .

Not sure if this is true for all buses, but ours have a single bank of four
batteries. Ours are standard 12v lead-acid wet cells, configured into two
parallel sub-banks of two batteries hooked up in parallel. This gives the
system two 12v "rails" to power the accessories, lights and controls, and
by tapping the two banks in series you get the monster 24v rail.

Our batteries weigh in 2-3 times a standard car battery, two man lift
items. 770 cca and a large four digit amp-hour rating. Hefty SOBs for sure,
and they can really power a bus. I have seen an alternator exciter go out
mid shift, the bus finished six hours on battery alone...

Kurt

On Nov 8, 2011 8:04 AM, "Allen Thomas"  wrote:

**
Thanks for the clarification Kurt. I was concerned he charge the battery
with a 24V charger. Especially if he started the bike while hooked up to
the charger. I could see that burning out bulbs and frying wires. Btw do
they step down a 24V battery bank to get 12V, or do they have two banks of
batteries? Just curious.


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Some bus systems run 12v, others 24v, so usually the power strips have
posts for both. On ours, on...
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] lost head light and running lights .

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Most busses ive seen have verry funky battries with lugs for 12 24 and 36v 
hookups



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Sent: 11/8/2011 9:07 am
To: "Nightwawk Lovers" 
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] lost head light and running lights .

Large trucks usually have 24 volt systems. Or at least they do in the marines. 
Could you have charged it with the wrong voltage?
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It a jump starter. Sorry I work for a bus company and its what they us to jump 
start bus's. 

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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] lost head light and running lights .

What's a start all?
How did you jump start it?

On Nov 7, 2011, at 8:24 PM, Bryan McGee wrote:

> Hello all, I have a 84 cb650 and today after work I went too start  
> my bike and it was dead, I've had some hard starts in the morning  
> when it's cold so I put in on a trickle charger over night . It  
> start right up and never have a problem in the afternoon with it  
> starting untill today.
> But today I did so i jump started with a start all and after that I  
> lost my head light and running lights on low beam , but with the  
> high beam switch on I have running lights but still no  
> headlight .It's a new headlight and new battery in spring . so I  
> ride home 10 miles in the dark with no lights not fun but made it  
> home safe.. so any Idea's after all this rambling on. Any help  
> would be great thanks bryan ..
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] what kind of front brake handle

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When teaching my ex to ride with my cb 250 she dumped it and broke the clutch 
lever. I was able to get a replacement lever at cycle gear (they had one on the 
shelf) i might try them or bike bandit



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Sent: 11/7/2011 9:37 am
To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" 
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] what kind of front brake handle

Hey everybody,

So I own my Nighthawk 750 from '93 since a couple of weeks now and
enjoy it very very much. I have pulled one stupid stunt already: I
laid it on its side when trying to push it up a curb (the stupid part
was me not sitting on the bike but standing next to it). Luckily there
wasn't a lot of damage: nothing on the tank or other painted parts,
but the rear brake handle was bent a little (easily repaired) and the
front brake handle was curved forwards. So it looked like a banana, or
a big smile :-). I was able to push it back into its original curve
with a vice grip, but now I need a new front brake handle asap, since
the aluminum has bent it has lost some of its strength. I wouldn't
like my brake to snap off when I need to do an emergency stop...

But I don't know how to look for a fitting front brake handle on the
internet. The options for an actual Nighthawk brake handle are scarce
(I live in Europe) and I don't know how else to look for it. So my
question is: What types of bikes have the same front brake handle as a
'93 750NH, or what kind of search term could I use to look for a new
one?

Thanks for any advice you can give me, you would sure help this newbie
out! :-)

Greetings,
Veerle

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Led bulbs in turning signals

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

Try dr. Led



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To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" 
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Led bulbs in turning signals

Ok, again trying to see if someone has tried this before...

New technologies bring new lightbulbs (LED mostly) that according to
the book, are much brighter and use less power (nice on a SC).

I'm considering changing the front bulbs of my turning signals to be
seen better at night (to improve the cruising lights of the turn
signals visibility)... has anyone tried it ? Keeping original parts,
just changing the bulb...



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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] 650SC 1985 Headlight bucket : where do you find them ?

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

I recomend (depending on severity) filling the crack with marinetex or 
fiberglass and resin



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Sent: 10/27/2011 1:23 pm
To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" 
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] 650SC 1985 Headlight bucket : where do you find 
them ?

My dear SC is almost perfect, except for the headlight bucket, and I
can' seem to find replacements.

I have seen some used on eBay that all share the same cracks / chips.
Isn't there a place to get some new ones, or a replacement part (from
a different bike that fits the frame and the light) ?

I'm just afraid this thing breaks in a hard bump or something...

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] pegs/windshield

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Very true!  



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Sent: 10/26/2011 6:33 pm
To: "Nightwawk Lovers" 
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] pegs/windshield

I love bikes and rum!  Just not at the same time.
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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:26:05 
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Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] pegs/windshield

And here i was going to say like sailors and rum! (Bikes and sailboats make an 
odd mix, but i rather like it)



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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] pegs/windshield

Yes! My hangar mate has an Ercoupe he's working on. Should be flyable before
too long. Motorcycles and vintage airplanes go very well together, like gin
and olives.


On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Allen Thomas  wrote:

> ** Cool another aviation nut!
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
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> *From: * Bill Sandifer 
> *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Date: *Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:52:01 -0400
> *To: *
> *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] pegs/windshield
>
> Hard to beat "native" aluminum, particularly when it's polished. One of my
> favorites is the naked Ercoupe.  Bill S.
>
> http://www.museumofflight.org/aircraft/erco-415-c-ercoupe
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:
>
>> ** Yea, but they look "dirty" really quick. The silver ones hide dust
>> much better. Maybe you should consider polishing, or paint.
>>
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> --
>> *From: * Kurt Nolte 
>> *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> *Date: *Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:24:09 -0400
>> *To: *
>> *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] pegs/windshield
>>
>> Let me just say that I am jealous of you folks with black treated engines.
>> That looks so much better than my own spotty oxidation patterns on my own
>> casing and fins.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Oct 26, 2011 3:39 PM, "vadik selo"  wrote:
>>
>> My friend just picked up a '95 750 and its like brand new..
>>
>> the guy said, " i ride during the day and clean at night, right after i
>> ride"  and it obviously showed that
>>
>> basically not a scratch not a single spot of rust just plain beautiful
>> bike,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Javier Garcia 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > BTW, that pic...
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] pegs/windshield

[greenzer...@gmail.com]

And here i was going to say like sailors and rum! (Bikes and sailboats make an 
odd mix, but i rather like it)



---Original Message---
From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: 10/26/2011 5:57 pm
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] pegs/windshield

Yes! My hangar mate has an Ercoupe he's working on. Should be flyable before
too long. Motorcycles and vintage airplanes go very well together, like gin
and olives.


On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Allen Thomas  wrote:

> ** Cool another aviation nut!
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> --
> *From: * Bill Sandifer 
> *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Date: *Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:52:01 -0400
> *To: *
> *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] pegs/windshield
>
> Hard to beat "native" aluminum, particularly when it's polished. One of my
> favorites is the naked Ercoupe.  Bill S.
>
> http://www.museumofflight.org/aircraft/erco-415-c-ercoupe
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Allen Thomas wrote:
>
>> ** Yea, but they look "dirty" really quick. The silver ones hide dust
>> much better. Maybe you should consider polishing, or paint.
>>
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> --
>> *From: * Kurt Nolte 
>> *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> *Date: *Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:24:09 -0400
>> *To: *
>> *ReplyTo: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] pegs/windshield
>>
>> Let me just say that I am jealous of you folks with black treated engines.
>> That looks so much better than my own spotty oxidation patterns on my own
>> casing and fins.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Oct 26, 2011 3:39 PM, "vadik selo"  wrote:
>>
>> My friend just picked up a '95 750 and its like brand new..
>>
>> the guy said, " i ride during the day and clean at night, right after i
>> ride"  and it obviously showed that
>>
>> basically not a scratch not a single spot of rust just plain beautiful
>> bike,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Javier Garcia 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > BTW, that pic...
>>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Off topic dorkey post

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I have used the frs radios for yeas for everthing for paintball to riding. The 
deal with these is the housing. The show firefly and movie serenity used small 
black boxes with "pal" stamped on them. I am able to get those boxes and my 
plan is to put off the shelf radios in them. Curently my cost per box is $50. 
Then i need to put the radio in them



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Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Off topic dorkey post

These things are on EBay.   Look for 'Motorola Talkabout'.   I've used them
for years in our nursery biz with 25 acres to keep track of.

Dennis G.

New Zealand


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[mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Thomas
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 3:15 PM
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He is talking about making a family band walky talky setup.
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Ditto.  What do it do?!

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Off topic dorkey post

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I might be coming into a few of the pal comms devices from firefly and i plan 
to make them into real coms (rip them open and stuff the guts of a gmrs/frs 
radio) i thought i would offer the first few up here to any that are intrested?

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