[nlug] FCC acts to preserve internet freedom and openness
Is the FCC order a good idea for consumers? http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db1221/DOC-303745A1.pdf Verizon Sues F.C.C. to Overturn Order on Blocking Web Sites What happens if Verizon prevails in its appeal? Comcast and ATT will likely want the same as Verizon. Is there a way to go around the giant telecoms to avoid blocking altogether? http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/business/media/21fcc.html?nl=technologyemc=techupdateema4 -- Russ Crawford 615/506-4070 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] FCC acts to preserve internet freedom and openness
I see the ISP's real intentions. Yes, it's good for customers. Kevin Wurm On Jan 21, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Russ Crawford russ.m.crawf...@gmail.com wrote: Is the FCC order a good idea for consumers? http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db1221/DOC-303745A1.pdf Verizon Sues F.C.C. to Overturn Order on Blocking Web Sites What happens if Verizon prevails in its appeal? Comcast and ATT will likely want the same as Verizon. Is there a way to go around the giant telecoms to avoid blocking altogether? http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/business/media/21fcc.html?nl=technologyemc=techupdateema4 -- Russ Crawford 615/506-4070 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
[nlug] Photo Editing ... Simplified
This is to help my wife out, she is looking at using Picnik for online picture editing. The problem is we have between no and very low bandwidth available. We need a downloadable open source, and simple program that will run on XP. This will be used in a 2 hour class, only 1 really at the computer, and this is 11 to 18 yr olds. Suggestions? (offline responses are OK) ... Jack Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Photo Editing ... Simplified
Paint.Net -- it's not photoshop, but it's great. Not sure if it's open source, but it's free. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote: This is to help my wife out, she is looking at using Picnik for online picture editing. The problem is we have between no and very low bandwidth available. We need a downloadable open source, and simple program that will run on XP. This will be used in a 2 hour class, only 1 really at the computer, and this is 11 to 18 yr olds. Suggestions? (offline responses are OK) ... Jack Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
RE: [nlug] Photo Editing ... Simplified
What about gimp for windows? It has gotten quite functional in the more recent releases (layers, etc) Mark J. BaileyJobsoft Design Development, Inc. 104 Arlington Place, Suite 100Franklin, TN 37064 EMAIL: mailto:m...@jobsoft.com m...@jobsoft.com WEB: http://www.jobsoft.com/ http://www.jobsoft.com/ VOICE:(615)904-9559 FAX:(615)904-9576 CELL:(615)308-9099 From: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-talk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul W. Roach III Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 3:11 PM To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [nlug] Photo Editing ... Simplified Paint.Net -- it's not photoshop, but it's great. Not sure if it's open source, but it's free. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote: This is to help my wife out, she is looking at using Picnik for online picture editing. The problem is we have between no and very low bandwidth available. We need a downloadable open source, and simple program that will run on XP. This will be used in a 2 hour class, only 1 really at the computer, and this is 11 to 18 yr olds. Suggestions? (offline responses are OK) ... Jack Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:nlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
RE: [nlug] Photo Editing ... Simplified
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html Gimp works pretty good under XP It is not the easiest necessarily to get started with BUT, there are lots of resources online (youtube included) and it is open source and free (and runs on linux too). But, it is quite functional. I have done some photoshop and, while not photoshop, I have managed some pretty sophisticated things with GIMP. Another *vector* based free drawing tool (along the lines, I think, of Adobe Illistrator) is Inkscape (http://inkscape.org/). GIMP, though, is raster graphics and that is what you need for photo editing. Mark J. BaileyJobsoft Design Development, Inc. 104 Arlington Place, Suite 100Franklin, TN 37064 EMAIL: mailto:m...@jobsoft.com m...@jobsoft.com WEB: http://www.jobsoft.com/ http://www.jobsoft.com/ VOICE:(615)904-9559 FAX:(615)904-9576 CELL:(615)308-9099 From: Mark J. Bailey [mailto:m...@jobsoft.com] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 3:14 PM To: 'nlug-talk@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: [nlug] Photo Editing ... Simplified What about gimp for windows? It has gotten quite functional in the more recent releases (layers, etc) Mark J. BaileyJobsoft Design Development, Inc. 104 Arlington Place, Suite 100Franklin, TN 37064 EMAIL: m...@jobsoft.com WEB: http://www.jobsoft.com/ VOICE:(615)904-9559 FAX:(615)904-9576 CELL:(615)308-9099 From: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-talk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul W. Roach III Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 3:11 PM To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [nlug] Photo Editing ... Simplified Paint.Net -- it's not photoshop, but it's great. Not sure if it's open source, but it's free. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote: This is to help my wife out, she is looking at using Picnik for online picture editing. The problem is we have between no and very low bandwidth available. We need a downloadable open source, and simple program that will run on XP. This will be used in a 2 hour class, only 1 really at the computer, and this is 11 to 18 yr olds. Suggestions? (offline responses are OK) ... Jack Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:nlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] cloud services/comparisons -- Stopping the thread jacking.
The whole reason for Openstack is because of the need for Eucalyptus to have copyright assignment to them. Further the fact that they can reject updates based on it conflicting with the corporate sales and inclusion of not openly released code. Any project can reject updates, anyway. Ultimately, you might have to fork it. BTW, while I didn't download the code to look for the license in it, the agreement that you have to sign to contribute code back means it is not really a fully open project. The assignment of copyrights and patents to the sponsoring corp means they can take the software in their repo private at anytime they wish. You get free as in beer but not free as in speech. Not really. In that case, you still have the software as it was up until the time it was taken private. It's still forkable from that point. Michael -- Michael Darrin Chaney, Sr. mdcha...@michaelchaney.com http://www.michaelchaney.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Photo Editing ... Simplified
Gimp may be as good as it gets for free software. It's been around a long time and is still being developed, has zillions of downloads and plenty of resources. I've got it on my Ubuntu Linux machine so it's on several platforms. John Ford http://www.pbase.com/sfzjohn On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Mark J. Bailey m...@jobsoft.com wrote: http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html Gimp works pretty good under XP It is not the easiest necessarily to get started with BUT, there are lots of resources online (youtube included) and it is open source and free (and runs on linux too). But, it is quite functional. I have done some photoshop and, while not photoshop, I have managed some pretty sophisticated things with GIMP. Another **vector** based free drawing tool (along the lines, I think, of Adobe Illistrator) is Inkscape (http://inkscape.org/). GIMP, though, is raster graphics and that is what you need for photo editing. Mark J. BaileyJobsoft Design Development, Inc. 104 Arlington Place, Suite 100Franklin, TN 37064 EMAIL: m...@jobsoft.com WEB: http://www.jobsoft.com/ VOICE:(615)904-9559 FAX:(615)904-9576 CELL:(615)308-9099 *From:* Mark J. Bailey [mailto:m...@jobsoft.com] *Sent:* Friday, January 21, 2011 3:14 PM *To:* 'nlug-talk@googlegroups.com' *Subject:* RE: [nlug] Photo Editing ... Simplified What about gimp for windows? It has gotten quite functional in the more recent releases (layers, etc) Mark J. BaileyJobsoft Design Development, Inc. 104 Arlington Place, Suite 100Franklin, TN 37064 EMAIL: m...@jobsoft.com WEB: http://www.jobsoft.com/ VOICE:(615)904-9559 FAX:(615)904-9576 CELL:(615)308-9099 *From:* nlug-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-talk@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul W. Roach III *Sent:* Friday, January 21, 2011 3:11 PM *To:* nlug-talk@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [nlug] Photo Editing ... Simplified Paint.Net -- it's not photoshop, but it's great. Not sure if it's open source, but it's free. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote: This is to help my wife out, she is looking at using Picnik for online picture editing. The problem is we have between no and very low bandwidth available. We need a downloadable open source, and simple program that will run on XP. This will be used in a 2 hour class, only 1 really at the computer, and this is 11 to 18 yr olds. Suggestions? (offline responses are OK) ... Jack Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
[nlug] LinuxFest January 22!!!
Hey guys, Haven't heard any yellow bellied southerners complaining that they can't travel around Nashville. I am operating on the assumption that we are still on for the LinuxFest from 1000 until 1600 at Watkins College of Art, Design and Film on Rosa Parks Blvd. I just did a quick reconn run from my house into Springfield and found the roads completely fine. Okay, my one mile road to the main highway still has patches of stuff that will be ice by morning but everything else was clean. A day of sunshine, even at 20F, does a lot for clearing roads. I've got Turnkey Linux systems to discuss and demonstrate as well as other opportunities (read stuff I gotta figure out). Chris, please confirm that WCADF is available Saturday as we had planned. Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
RE: [nlug] LinuxFest January 22!!!
This morning started out messy (at one point, an ambulance passed my house, with the siren and lights going but only moving about ten MPH), but the streets are mostly clear now. Just watch out for shaded spots that still have ice. ---Original Email--- Subject :[nlug] LinuxFest January 22!!! From :mailto:how...@usit.net Date :Fri Jan 21 16:46:35 America/Chicago 2011 Hey guys, Haven't heard any yellow bellied southerners complaining that they can't travel around Nashville. I am operating on the assumption that we are still on for the LinuxFest from 1000 until 1600 at Watkins College of Art, Design and Film on Rosa Parks Blvd. I just did a quick reconn run from my house into Springfield and found the roads completely fine. Okay, my one mile road to the main highway still has patches of stuff that will be ice by morning but everything else was clean. A day of sunshine, even at 20F, does a lot for clearing roads. I've got Turnkey Linux systems to discuss and demonstrate as well as other opportunities (read stuff I gotta figure out). Chris, please confirm that WCADF is available Saturday as we had planned. Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] LinuxFest January 22!!!
I will certainly be there. Let's say that LinuxFest is on, fancy snowflakes and all. Curt On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 5:02 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: This morning started out messy (at one point, an ambulance passed my house, with the siren and lights going but only moving about ten MPH), but the streets are mostly clear now. Just watch out for shaded spots that still have ice. ---Original Email--- Subject :[nlug] LinuxFest January 22!!! From :mailto:how...@usit.net Date :Fri Jan 21 16:46:35 America/Chicago 2011 Hey guys, Haven't heard any yellow bellied southerners complaining that they can't travel around Nashville. I am operating on the assumption that we are still on for the LinuxFest from 1000 until 1600 at Watkins College of Art, Design and Film on Rosa Parks Blvd. I just did a quick reconn run from my house into Springfield and found the roads completely fine. Okay, my one mile road to the main highway still has patches of stuff that will be ice by morning but everything else was clean. A day of sunshine, even at 20F, does a lot for clearing roads. I've got Turnkey Linux systems to discuss and demonstrate as well as other opportunities (read stuff I gotta figure out). Chris, please confirm that WCADF is available Saturday as we had planned. Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] LinuxFest January 22!!!
Yay! Fancy snowflakes. I will be bringing my computer and finally installing Linux on it. I have not done this in a very long time. Ever since I got this new computer, I never installed Linux on it. This will be just what the Doctor ordered. :) On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Curt Lundgren verif...@gmail.com wrote: I will certainly be there. Let's say that LinuxFest is on, fancy snowflakes and all. Curt On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 5:02 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: This morning started out messy (at one point, an ambulance passed my house, with the siren and lights going but only moving about ten MPH), but the streets are mostly clear now. Just watch out for shaded spots that still have ice. ---Original Email--- Subject :[nlug] LinuxFest January 22!!! From :mailto:how...@usit.net Date :Fri Jan 21 16:46:35 America/Chicago 2011 Hey guys, Haven't heard any yellow bellied southerners complaining that they can't travel around Nashville. I am operating on the assumption that we are still on for the LinuxFest from 1000 until 1600 at Watkins College of Art, Design and Film on Rosa Parks Blvd. I just did a quick reconn run from my house into Springfield and found the roads completely fine. Okay, my one mile road to the main highway still has patches of stuff that will be ice by morning but everything else was clean. A day of sunshine, even at 20F, does a lot for clearing roads. I've got Turnkey Linux systems to discuss and demonstrate as well as other opportunities (read stuff I gotta figure out). Chris, please confirm that WCADF is available Saturday as we had planned. Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comnlug-talk%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] LinuxFest January 22!!!
Yeah. We will be open. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Howard White how...@usit.net wrote: Hey guys, Haven't heard any yellow bellied southerners complaining that they can't travel around Nashville. I am operating on the assumption that we are still on for the LinuxFest from 1000 until 1600 at Watkins College of Art, Design and Film on Rosa Parks Blvd. I just did a quick reconn run from my house into Springfield and found the roads completely fine. Okay, my one mile road to the main highway still has patches of stuff that will be ice by morning but everything else was clean. A day of sunshine, even at 20F, does a lot for clearing roads. I've got Turnkey Linux systems to discuss and demonstrate as well as other opportunities (read stuff I gotta figure out). Chris, please confirm that WCADF is available Saturday as we had planned. Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
[nlug] Summary: Photo Editing ... Simplified
Ok, I have downloaded both Gimp for Windows and Paint.net (with the MS .NET 3.5 from M$) and put them on a CD for my wife to test. I know Gimp, but it has a learning curve for kids that aren't familiar with it. I appreciate all the feedback! ... Thanks ... Jack Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] cloud services/comparisons -- Stopping the thread jacking.
On Thursday 20 January 2011 09:14:57 Steven S. Critchfield wrote: BTW, while I didn't download the code to look for the license in it, the agreement that you have to sign to contribute code back means it is not really a fully open project. The assignment of copyrights and patents to the sponsoring corp means they can take the software in their repo private at anytime they wish. You get free as in beer but not free as in speech. You clearly have not read the agreements for contributing code to GNU projects. You are likewise required to sign over your copyright to the FSF, and the only reason you have to believe that the FSF won't take its software private is the reputation of each of its board of directors. There is similarly nothing legally to prevent FSF from doing so. -- Tilghman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] FCC acts to preserve internet freedom and openness
On Jan 21, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Russ Crawford russ.m.crawf...@gmail.com wrote: Is the FCC order a good idea for consumers? http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db1221/DOC-303745A1.pdf Verizon Sues F.C.C. to Overturn Order on Blocking Web Sites What happens if Verizon prevails in its appeal? Comcast and ATT will likely want the same as Verizon. Is there a way to go around the giant telecoms to avoid blocking altogether? http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/business/media/21fcc.html?nl=technologyemc=techupdateema4 -- Russ Crawford 615/506-4070 On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Kevin Wurm kwu...@comcast.net wrote: I see the ISP's real intentions. Yes, it's good for customers. Kevin Wurm Could you elaborate what you believe the ISP's real intentions are? From what I've seen, the heart of the case is Does the FCC have the authority to make rules for broadband internet?. There seems to be continued debate over that. The FCC says existing laws give them the authority, some congress-critters don't believe they do. The whole issue has made strange bedfellows of all sorts of groups. The issue of blocking websites... What I believe the FCC is trying to say is this: Say Comcast decides that ABC or CBS are bad (because they own NBC and don't like distributing competing material), so they block or severely cripple traffic to/from their competitors. Or ATT, or even block specific pages (like how customers sign up for competing services). The EFF leaders were split a few years back (haven't checked recently). The ones against I believe basically believed though we like the rules, we don't want to cede the argument whether the FCC has the authority or not, and new people may be appointed who make rules we don't like, they aren't elected positions, etc. Paul Boniol. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Photo Editing ... Simplified
Not sure about its openness, but Google's Picasa is downloadable to an XP machine. Got it at work use it some. On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 15:05 -0600, Jack Coats wrote: This is to help my wife out, she is looking at using Picnik for online picture editing. The problem is we have between no and very low bandwidth available. We need a downloadable open source, and simple program that will run on XP. This will be used in a 2 hour class, only 1 really at the computer, and this is 11 to 18 yr olds. Suggestions? (offline responses are OK) ... Jack Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart... Colossians 3:23 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] LinuxFest January 22!!!
I'll be there. Roads are surprisingly clear, as long as you stay on the mains. 3 is nothing until the melt refreezes! Jim On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 18:13 -0600, Chris McQuistion wrote: Yeah. We will be open. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Howard White how...@usit.net wrote: Hey guys, Haven't heard any yellow bellied southerners complaining that they can't travel around Nashville. I am operating on the assumption that we are still on for the LinuxFest from 1000 until 1600 at Watkins College of Art, Design and Film on Rosa Parks Blvd. I just did a quick reconn run from my house into Springfield and found the roads completely fine. Okay, my one mile road to the main highway still has patches of stuff that will be ice by morning but everything else was clean. A day of sunshine, even at 20F, does a lot for clearing roads. I've got Turnkey Linux systems to discuss and demonstrate as well as other opportunities (read stuff I gotta figure out). Chris, please confirm that WCADF is available Saturday as we had planned. Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] Photo Editing ... Simplified
Thanks to all. I have a list and a few downloads I gave to my wife for her to evaluate. Sofar she thinks Gimp is to complicated to teach even the basics in under an hour. So she is going to work on others. Thanks ... Jack -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] VMWare on Linux Running through VNC
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Chris McQuistion cmcquist...@watkins.edu wrote: The free VMWare Server simply runs a web server on your Linux machine and you don't need graphical access to the server at all, you just need access to the appropriate ports from a remote machine. Chris I was in the process of configuring VMware Server when I found that VMware Server has been declared end-of-line and VMware will drop support on June 30... I know it works, and I can get it now, and it sounds like what I need. I'm just not sure I want to learn on software that won't be available in the future. It appears VMware's recommended free version is now VMware Player. From what I've read it has a quite different modus operandi, capabilities, etc. The machine I plan to install it on is an Intel Core2 vPro processor (E8500). Evidently it has VT, but it must have been one of the early chips with VT (default is off). That opens possibilities I didn't think I had. I don't expect to do a lot in Windows, but there are some Windows programs I just can't completely get away from... It will be going over the internet, so security is an issue. I can tunnel through SSH, etc. as needed. Does anyone have a favorite VM in this situation (Linux host, with Windows as guest)? Paul Boniol -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
Re: [nlug] VMWare on Linux Running through VNC
Virtualbox is pretty decent for that sort of thing but I don't know what the status of that project is since Oracle bought Sun. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2011, at 10:50 PM, Paul Boniol paul.bon...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Chris McQuistion cmcquist...@watkins.edu wrote: The free VMWare Server simply runs a web server on your Linux machine and you don't need graphical access to the server at all, you just need access to the appropriate ports from a remote machine. Chris I was in the process of configuring VMware Server when I found that VMware Server has been declared end-of-line and VMware will drop support on June 30... I know it works, and I can get it now, and it sounds like what I need. I'm just not sure I want to learn on software that won't be available in the future. It appears VMware's recommended free version is now VMware Player. From what I've read it has a quite different modus operandi, capabilities, etc. The machine I plan to install it on is an Intel Core2 vPro processor (E8500). Evidently it has VT, but it must have been one of the early chips with VT (default is off). That opens possibilities I didn't think I had. I don't expect to do a lot in Windows, but there are some Windows programs I just can't completely get away from... It will be going over the internet, so security is an issue. I can tunnel through SSH, etc. as needed. Does anyone have a favorite VM in this situation (Linux host, with Windows as guest)? Paul Boniol -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en
