Re: [NTG-context] Complete list of math symbols
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 08:01, Mehdi Omidali wrote: > Hi, > I want to know the complete list of math symbols in MKIV. See char-def.lua and search for mathname and mathspec. The list may not be complete, but any suggestions for adding new definitions are welcome. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] typescripts
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:11, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > Am 17.03.10 10:04, schrieb Mojca Miklavec: >> >> Maybe I'm wrong, but shouldn't it be possible (I didn't test) to >> modify font-unk.mkiv and add a few extra definitions to the following? >> (Maybe not modify font-unk itself, but just adding a couple of more >> definitons to the typescript.) >> >> \definebodyfont [default] [rm] >> [tf=Serif sa 1, >> bf=SerifBold sa 1, >> it=SerifItalic sa 1, >> sl=SerifSlanted sa 1, >> bi=SerifBoldItalic sa 1, >> bs=SerifBoldSlanted sa 1, >> sc=SerifCaps sa 1] >> >> You could add your >> in=SerifYourFontVariantName sa 1, >> bd=SerifYourOtherFontVariantName sa 1, >> > > The last time i did this you needed for MkIV also > > \definefontalternative[in] > \definefontalternative[bd] > > but be carefull with the shortcuts, \in is already used (references). I know, but it's up to Michael to choose the names for his scheme. It's not very wise to override existing comands anyway; and almost any two-letter could could be taken for language switching. (\sl should stand for Slovenian, though it has a lower priority than font switching.) If he decides not to use cross-references, it may even work (with zero guarantee). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context beta not found
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:34, Hans van der Meer wrote: > Did I miss some change in the ConTeXt beta location? Or a server blackout? > > On refreshing my ConTeXt beta I get from: > curl -o first-setup.sh > http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/first-setup.sh There's also a secret mirror on http://minimals.metatex.org. > the error message: > curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'minimals.contextgarden.net' It should be theoretically possible to use the hidden functionality: rsync -av rsync://metatex.org/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh . ./first-setup.sh --server=metatex.org (But the rsync server on the garden is responding here.) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] typescripts
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 09:20, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > Am 17.03.10 02:26, schrieb Michael Saunders: > >> 2. As far as I can tell from trying to decode examples, there is some >> hidden connection between the first arguments of the second typescript >> block and the font switches. So, for example, a secret connection >> between SerifBoldItalic and \bi seems to connect Junicode-BoldItalic >> to \bi. Fine, but, in all the examples I've seen, there are no more >> than two weights and no widths. In some cases, I have five weights >> (light, book, medium, semi-bold, bold). How do I set up the >> typescript for this and the switches in the text? Must I learn more >> pairs like (SerifBoldItalic, \bi)? Yes, but there are not many (tf, it, sl, bf, bi, bs, sc) and I assume that they are extensible. See also below. > You need more typefaces. One for light, another one for condensed etc. > > styles: > > Serif -> \rm > Sans -> \ss > Mono -> \tt > Handwriting -> \hw > Calligraphy -> \cg > > alternatives: > > -- > Italic -> \tf > Slanted -> \sl > Bold -> \bf > BoldItalic -> \bi > BoldSlanted -> \bs > Caps -> \sc > > combinations: > > SerifItalic -> \rm\it, \rmit > SansSlanted -> \ss\sl, \sssl > MonoBold -> \tt\bf, \ttbf Maybe I'm wrong, but shouldn't it be possible (I didn't test) to modify font-unk.mkiv and add a few extra definitions to the following? (Maybe not modify font-unk itself, but just adding a couple of more definitons to the typescript.) \definebodyfont [default] [rm] [tf=Serif sa 1, bf=SerifBold sa 1, it=SerifItalic sa 1, sl=SerifSlanted sa 1, bi=SerifBoldItalic sa 1, bs=SerifBoldSlanted sa 1, sc=SerifCaps sa 1] You could add your in=SerifYourFontVariantName sa 1, bd=SerifYourOtherFontVariantName sa 1, And then \definefontsynonym[SerifYourFontVariantName][YourFontName] It's true that most people don't do that, but I see no reason for not extending the model for your particular needs. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
>> By the way, XeTeX also breaks, but in a different way. "Računalne
>> mreže" becomes "RaÄ“unalne mreže". Same option also doesn't do
>> anything.
>>
>> MkIV works nicely, and I know I should probably be using that, but
>> LaTeX with hyperref can do unicode bookmarks in both XeTeX and pdfTeX,
>> so it would be really cool if ConTeXt would be able to do it as well.
>
> Hm, i wonder what goes wrong, so can you make a test file? I was under the
> impression that context could do it before latex if only because it was used
> to test the <> entries when that feature was added to pdftex so maybe
> soemthing got lost (it might also be that some ecodings work better than
> others, so let's assume utf)
I figured out that loading "\input spec-tst.mkii" before
\setupinteraction[state=start] works as expected in MKII (but then -
the backward compatibility is broken as well since one would have to
load the "tex" version of that file in past). Loading it after doesn't
have any influence.
It would be really nice if there was some more elegant way to use
UTF-8 in bookmarks than \input spec-tst.mkii.
For me the bookmarks in XeTeX seem to work fine.
Mojca
%%% only for pdftex
\enableregime
[utf-8]
\input spec-tst.mkii
%%%
\setupinteraction
[state=start]
\placebookmarks
[chapter,section,subsection]
[chapter,section]
\setupinteractionscreen
[option=bookmark]
\starttext
\section{Čisto prva}
\page
\section{še druga}
\page
\section{In žadnja}
\section{Računalne mreže}
\stoptext
bookmark.tex
Description: TeX document
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt forum engine
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 00:21, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Hello > > Why not phpBB?? > > http://www.phpbb.com/ The question was whether there's also some other solution worth considering. (This one is most likely to be used otherwise.) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] German ConTeXt Initiative
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 20:54, Peter Münster wrote: > > What are the advantages of a forum over a mailing list? Apart from what Hannes wrote, one of advantages that I see is that for someone who is not actively participating, it's a bit annoying to recieve 40 mails per day that do not interest him at all just in order to be able to recieve the answer. If there would be some software, I would prefer a solution that would work as a hybrid between forum and mailing list though (for someone who is not willing to be subscribed, it would work as a forum with ability to mark that one wants to get a notification when someone answers). For others it would work as a mailing list ... It would also be nice to be able to add some additional marks. For example, I would find it helpful if users (or maybe a few moderators) could mark threads with: - bug report / feature request / question for usage / discussion - waiting for satisfactory answer / resolved / fixed - some topic-related marks then it would also be easier to search through archives (for example if one would decide to write an extensive testbed including all the bugs that have ever appeared or if Hans had plenty of time and decided to review pending feature requests etc.). I was impressed by HyperNews, although it could offer a bit better user interface (example of usage: http://hypernews.slac.stanford.edu/HyperNews/geant4/cindex). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] German ConTeXt Initiative
Hello, Two Germans suggested to start a forum in addition to the existing mailing list. Even though it might be a problem to get enough active people to participate, I see no reason for not enabling the forum on the garden as opposed to using some arbitrary web page. Any thoughts, ideas and comments about selection of software for running a forum are welcome. (I was also thinking about HyperNews which is a forum with "mailing list interface".) Mojca On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 20:41, Hannes Riebl wrote: > Hi Mojca, > > my name is Hannes. I've set up the german ConTeXt board on > http://context.pytalhost.de/. > > Yasser asked me to contact you because of our idea to start a german > community platform for ConTeXt. > > We both prefer a board instead of a mailing list because we think it's > easier to use especially for unexperienced users. Another reason is that I'm > not very experienced with mailing lists and have never set up one neither do > I know HyperNews. I personally like PunBB because it's lightwight and easy > to set up and administer. > > In order to have a centralized ConTeXt community you proposed to run the > board on contextgarden.net. I think that's a good idea. Would you provide a > subdomain? Could the board be installed on the same server on which the wiki > running on? At the moment it is running on a free webspace. Therefore we > have ads on the site. > > Waiting for your answer. =) > > Regards, > Hannes ... > We will not get any users for ConTeXt when there is no knowledge in germany. > And some good examples of documents createt with context. > > Our plan is more to write a german book on ConTeXt. Not a reference manual > (who are we to write it) but a step by step instruction how to write a > thesis. Academia and thesises is the main task to be targeted, so want to > write the according book. > > We want to organize it in this forum. To get users will be easy when we can > (I repeat myself here) get a link to the forum in the wikipedia article. I > hope that the responsible admins will include it. > > I hope you got what I meant. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mtxrun.lua:2167: stack overflow
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 05:35, views63 wrote: > Hi all, > > I use ConTeXt MkIV version: 2010.03.10 23:47 withTeXworks,it doesn't work. > > the error message:E:\context\tex\texmf-mswin\bin\mtxrun.lua:2167: stack > overflow > > tools configuration: > > name=ConTeXt MkIV > program=mtxrun > arguments=--autogenerate, --script, context, $synctexoption, $fullname > showPdf=true What does $synctexoption resolve to? Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context minimal problem on windows
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:10, Mehdi Omidali wrote: > Hi, > I have faced a problem during upgrade to the latest minimal. I have attached > a picture that explain the problem. Is it better now? (I need to fix some hardcoded commands, but I keep postponing that for way too long.) The problem is not with binaries, but with wrong libraries that we recombine on the garden (my fault). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Transliterator module, 2nd revision
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 09:06, Patrick Gundlach wrote: >>> >>> Can you also add the module to the module section [1] on the wiki, >> >> We urgently need to have some "git server" or something similar on the >> garden for modules. Maybe SVN would also do for a while. The current >> approach is very clumsy to use. > > I don't think that the users should learn git, that means an automatic > solution on the server would be needed. But these are not trivial to > implement. Perhaps something like auto-versioning svn does the trick? I partially agree with that, but then again - 99% of module writers are probably clever enough to be able to apply two or three documented commands to get the module working on the garden. Also keep in mind that authors of most modules on the garden (Aditya, Wolfgang, also Taco) already have their own version controll and just need to go through the painful process of uploading their modules to the garden in a proper way, even though the modules are already public on github or somewhere else. (I don't know how to use all the functionality that git offers, but "git add, git commit, git pull, git push and maybe git diff" do enough to cover all the basic needs. We don't need to ask users to know how to branch, rebase etc. if they don't want to.) In any case - we would still need some page with module information even if we switch to some version-controlled system. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] VCS for modules (was: Re: Transliterator module, 2nd revision)
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:28, Peter Münster wrote: > On Thu, Mar 11 2010, Patrick Gundlach wrote: > >> > We urgently need to have some "git server" or something similar on the >> > garden for modules. Maybe SVN would also do for a while. The current >> > approach is very clumsy to use. >> >> I don't think that the users should learn git, > > Hello, > > I don't know git, but if it's as easy to use as svn, then I don't see any > problem. Learning curve is the same. The main difference is that SVN is more well-known and people are more comfortable using it. You can compare it with LaTeX vs. ConTeXt. LaTeX is simply better known and more people know how to use it, but ConTeXt is somehow more powerful. For a beginner it's hardly a difference in the learning curve. > If it's too complex, then svn should do it, I think (do we need > the additional functions of git?) I mean - at the moment we don't have any "additional functions" at all, so anything would be better than the current situation. But some of the additional functions of git are really really worth having: - ability to have a local repository & lots of functionality connected with that - ease of branching/merging (authors may play with local branches on their computer with ease) - easy to implement something like "pull requests": someone needs to confirm that the changes are at least approximately OK (from time to time some files have accidentally been moved to the wrong place, so that TeX Live had problems with updates); though I doubt that we should do that it this moment Drawbacks: - ugly graphical user interface - it would be nice to use something like github, but I don't like the idea of using github as a main source since context-specific projects dissolve in the sea of others - one needs to set it up If we decide to use SVN, we could set it up much faster though. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Transliterator module, 2nd revision
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 17:01, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > Am 10.03.10 10:47, schrieb Philipp Gesang: >> >> I have opened a bitbucket account in order to not to clutter the mailing >> list with archives. The tip revision can be found here: >> http://bitbucket.org/phg/transliterator/get/2fc2b5fbbd46.gz >> and the precompiled manual over here: >> http://bitbucket.org/phg/transliterator/downloads/transliterator.pdf > > Can you also add the module to the module section [1] on the wiki, We urgently need to have some "git server" or something similar on the garden for modules. Maybe SVN would also do for a while. The current approach is very clumsy to use. > for inclusion in the minimals ask Mojca. Once it's added to the modules of course. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with „kpathsearch510.dl l“
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 17:00, Helmut Schwertner wrote: > Hello, > > I'm using contextminimals with win7 64bit. Since a few days i get the > following two messages when I try to update or to do a new install of > contextminimals. > > The message (error report) for two times is: > > > pdftex.exe – Einsprungpunkt nicht gefunden > > Der Prozedureinsprungpunkt „sfseek64“ wurde in der DLL „kpathsearch510.dll“ > nicht gefunden. > > > Sorry, I'm not able to translate this. > > > Context (mkiv) is working ; texexec (mkii) is broken. > > What can I do? I need to ask Akira - I suspect that there are two incompatible versions of the library with the same name. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 69, Issue 49
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 16:59, Michael Saunders wrote: > > The first instruction stymies me: > > "1. Copy the typescript files into either > > $TEXMF/tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user > $TEXMF/tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user" > > What typescript files? Where? (one usually needs to be written first, but I leave it to others to guide you) > Also, the two directories don't exist > in my distribution of Context Minimals. Are we supposed to create > them? Yes. (There is also texmf-local. You can put it there as well.) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bib module, inproceedings & mkii/mkiv incompatibility
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:26, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>> Hello Taco,
>>
>> the following example (I need to admit that I'm not sure how to
>> properly cite inproceedings) returns a different result in mkii and
>> mkiv. My citation (the fields I use) is probably a bit wrong, but the
>> results should be the same in my opinion. (Only mkii shows the year,
>> in mkiv there's an extra space; the month is not shown anywhere,
>
> Please try the attached patched version of bibl-num.tex, that should
> give you the month back in mkii. (if it works, similar patches are
> needed to the other files, of course).
Thanks a lot. It solves my particular problem (at least in MKII), I
have no idea how all the other references should be printed properly.
Just curious (you do not need to consider my question at all): is
there any reason for not printing the day next to month and year as
well (only if present of course)? Or maybe that's against the rules of
other publication layout? Maybe possible to make it configurable?
>> pubname is only shown in mkii although it's probably not needed
>> anyway since it's already the title (= booktitle in bibtex?) that
>> takes that role. It's also not really clear to me why I need to use
>> author and not artauthor, but well ...)
>
> In hindsight, artauthor would have been better, but it would be
> a bad idea to change that after all that time.
>
>> It may be sensible to have some reference about which fields are
>> sensible for what type of publication also among the ConTeXt manuals.
>
> Well, for mkii I was aiming for the same fields as for bibtex,
> (plus/minus the [art]author/[art]title differences). It just
> so happens that I missed 'month' and perhaps others as well.
The output in mkiv is still weird though. Also, try the following
example in MKIV. It gives the number 42 in italic, which should not
happen.
\usemodule
[bib]
\setuppublications
[alternative=num,
criterium=all,
sorttype=cite]
\startpublication
[k=X,
t=article,
a=Someone,
s=,
u=]
\arttitle{Title}
\journal{IEEE Transactions on Nuclear Science}
\artauthor[]{I.}[I.]{}{Someone}
\volume{42}
\issue{1}
\pubyear{2010}
\pages{100-200}
\abstract{}
\stoppublication
\starttext
\nocite[X]
\placepublications
\stoptext
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Where to put a module?
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:54, Philipp Gesang wrote: > > Right now it contains modes for Cyrillic, Glagolitic and Greek scripts, > older variants included, full ISO 9 support Doesn't ISO 9 (ISO-8859-9) support already work? Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MetaPost filesize
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 20:33, Peter Rolf wrote: > Am 06.03.2010 19:42, schrieb Troy Henderson: >> Ok then. Now for a newbie question. What is the best way to update >> LuaTeX? I assumed the first-setup.sh script in my ConTeX-minimals >> installation would do it for me. >> > i always update by hand, so better ask Mojca about it. Some binaries are there, for example on http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/bin/linux-64/luatex/trunk/ but there's no guarantee that the version is always recent enough (there's generally not enough need compile a new version of luatex every day). With a minimal fix of mtx-update.lua it should be possible to fetch the version of luatex from "trunk". Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using XeTeX results in: ! Undefined control sequence. \PDFversion ->1.\the \pdfminorversion
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 18:19, Nicola Vitacolonna wrote: >> Somewhere in my twists and turns to get Mark IV working today, it appears >> XeTeX has been broken. Running `texexec --xtx' on any ConTeXt file results >> in: >> >> ! Undefined control sequence. >> \PDFversion ->1.\the \pdfminorversion > > Hi, wondering whether this has a fix or is an open issue... I have exactly > the same problem with the current ConTeXt Minimals. It seems to be an open issue. Hans was probably busy enough during DANTE meeting, but fixing this should go to the highest priority list once he "recovers" :) :) :) A temporary workaround could be the following: \newcount\pdfminorversion \pdfminorversion=5 \starttext abc \stoptext Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] rsfs font problem with MKIV
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:45, views63 wrote: > > 1. put the archive keep file structure to "\context\tex\texmf\fonts " No, better put them to texmf-local or texmf-fonts, not to texmf, else they will be deleted when you synchronize the archive next time. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Table of contents disappears when \setuparranging is used
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 03:22, wrote: > > And Google > is very bad in finding context material. There's a Google "special search" on the wiki that should be able to search through the relevant material only. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Embedding fonts
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 05:33, Tom wrote: > Printers that I deal with want the PDFs to have the fonts embedded. The PDFs > that Texlive produces don't appear to have their fonts embedded and I can't > find what option I must set or routine that must be run to embed the fonts. They are embded by default. How does your document look like? Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Lua sponsors
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 20:08, luigi scarso wrote: > " We are pleased to announce that Adobe has joined our corporate > sponsorship program." > http://www.lua.org/sponsors.html Oh, I already see Hans replacing his "javascript in pdf documents" strategy with "fun with lua scripts in pdf documents" now :) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Differences in smart quotes MKII -> MKIV
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 18:58, James Fisher wrote:
>
> ``Yes, but --- ''
>
> In both cases, MKIV treats the opening grave character (is that the name?
> backtick?) literally rather than as an opening smart quote.
That's on purpose (there are some threads on the mailing list that
explain it). You may modify the behaviour if you want (without asking
how to do it), but it's best to use the proper quotes or
\quotation{...}.
Mojca
See:
[NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100118.123457.5dc7162a.en.html
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[NTG-context] bib module, inproceedings & mkii/mkiv incompatibility
Hello Taco,
the following example (I need to admit that I'm not sure how to
properly cite inproceedings) returns a different result in mkii and
mkiv. My citation (the fields I use) is probably a bit wrong, but the
results should be the same in my opinion. (Only mkii shows the year,
in mkiv there's an extra space; the month is not shown anywhere,
pubname is only shown in mkii although it's probably not needed
anyway since it's already the title (= booktitle in bibtex?) that
takes that role. It's also not really clear to me why I need to use
author and not artauthor, but well ...)
It may be sensible to have some reference about which fields are
sensible for what type of publication also among the ConTeXt manuals.
>From some unofficial BibTeX reference
(http://www.kfunigraz.ac.at/~binder/texhelp/bibtx-14.html):
Format:
@INPROCEEDINGS{citation_key,
required_fields [, optional_fields] }
Required fields: author, title, booktitle, year
Optional fields: editor, pages, organization, publisher, address,
month, note, key
\usemodule
[bib]
\setuppublications
[alternative=num,
criterium=all,
sorttype=cite]
\startpublication
[k=3Ddosimetry,
t=inproceedings,
a=Kormoll,
s=,
u=]
\arttitle{3D In-vivo Dosimetry for Photon Radiotherapy Based on Pair
Production}
\title{IEEE Nuclear Science Symposium Medical Imaging Conference Record}
\author[]{Thomas}[T.]{}{Kormoll}
\author[]{Daniela}[D.]{}{Kunath}
\author[]{Wolfgang}[W.]{}{Enghardt}
\volume{}
\issue{}
\city{Orlando, Florida}
\pubyear{2009}
\pubname{IEEE Nuclear Science Symposium Conference Record}
\month{October}
\day{25-31}
\pages{2969-2975}
\doi{}
\abstract{}
\stoppublication
\starttext
\cite[3Ddosimetry]
\placepublications
\stoptext
Thanks,
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] bookmarks point to page, not to section start
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:00, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 26-2-2010 14:09, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>> The behaviour seems to be the same in both MKII and MKIV (MKII only
>> doesn't respect the accented characters; but I understand the pain of
>> recoding).
>
> technically mkii should be able to to the right accents when you enable
> unicode pdf output but by default it's doing pdfdoc which is somewhat
> limited; chinese can have chinese bookmarks even in mkii but why bother
> about mkii and unicode ...
MKIV still happens to have problems from time to time ... so it's
better to have a backup.
>> I'm using the following code to place the bookmarks:
>>
>> \setupinteraction
>> [state=start]
>> \setupinteractionscreen
>> [option=bookmark]
>> \placebookmarks
>> [section,subsection,subsubsection]
>> [section,subsection]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \dorecurse{20}{\section{title} \input tufte}
>> \stoptext
>
> ok, here's a little secret
>
> \setupinteraction
> [focus=width]
But it doesn't make any difference.
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Math in MKIV - HOWTO
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 16:41, Zhichu Chen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > >> It's not about messing things up, but about missing "mathname=" in >> char-def.lua for all the unicode entries for special glyphs. If those >> glyphs worked in MKII from the very beginning, they won't work before >> one adds several entries to >> >> But of course they should work flawlessly when they are entered as >> unicode characters. They only fail to work when one enters >> \zrangeantirestriction for example. > > I'm sorry, this is just my comment from the unicode chart. I'm pretty sure > that won't work. I download the chart, compare the symbols in the tables > one by one without even knowing the meanings. Is there like a table of > macros of all symbols? a) Take a look at lucidabr.sty (inside lucidabr.zip from CTAN). That's the source for names of glyphs used in LaTeX for Lucida. b) The Comprehensive LaTeX Symbol List c) \showmathcharacters in MKII d) any other font with extensive glyph repertoaire Mojca PS: F3 looks very similar to 226D, but it's not exactly that. And there are plenty of other such characters. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math in MKIV - HOWTO
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 15:28, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 2-3-2010 14:49, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
> hm, but for me name compatibility with every latex math package is no
> objective; i'd rather that we're unicode math compiant (and i don't care too
> much what route latex follows)
I would not care too much about LaTeX either, but what does Unicode
compliance mean?
\symbol{DOWNWARDS ARROW LEFTWARDS OF UPWARDS ARROW}?
>> Out of the whole vector only some 5-10% of glyphs works now.
>
> is it that bad? interesting is that lucida was one of the first fonts
> context supported so the transition from yandy->tug has really messed up
> things then
It's not about messing things up, but about missing "mathname=" in
char-def.lua for all the unicode entries for special glyphs. If those
glyphs worked in MKII from the very beginning, they won't work before
one adds several entries to
But of course they should work flawlessly when they are entered as
unicode characters. They only fail to work when one enters
\zrangeantirestriction for example.
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Math in MKIV - HOWTO
> Mojca/aditya: can you check this and send me an updated/patch for math-vfu? What's pretty important is to fill the char-def.lua as well (maybe together with some additional comments that the glyph names come from the LaTeX package from Lucida, just that we'll know where the names come from next time when we see some clashes). Out of the whole vector only some 5-10% of glyphs works now. A very nice check would be for every slot in lbr-ma - print out unicode point - print out unicode description - print out mathname and mathclass - draw the glyph - draw the same glyph from cambria for comparison (I need to learn how to do that though, but it would be a nice homework.) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [MkII] Difference in output in minimals versus TeX Live 2009
2010/2/28 Vedran Miletić wrote: > 2010/2/26 Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> I suspect (though I don't really know) that the difference comes from >> different versions of TeX Gyre. There's a quick experiment you can do: >> >> rsync -av \ >> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ \ >> /path/to/minimals/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ >> >> (unless you want to make a backup, but you can quickly revent to the >> old state anyway by updating the minimals.) >> >> The weird thing is that it may be that the minimals contain an older >> version, but I can fix that soon (I need to double-check why the font >> didn't get updated automatically since many other fonts do). >> >> Mojca > > Yeah, that fixes it. Can you double-check? The reason was very weird: we wanted to be early adopters, so we were syncing from GUST even before the latest version of fonts became available to CTAN. But once the fonts became available on CTAN, I forgot to switch from "the latest zip" back to CTAN, so even when a new version came out months later, we kept syncing from that "latest version zip". The latest version should be online now. I hope. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [MkII] Difference in output in minimals versus TeX Live 2009
I suspect (though I don't really know) that the difference comes from different versions of TeX Gyre. There's a quick experiment you can do: rsync -av \ /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ \ /path/to/minimals/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ (unless you want to make a backup, but you can quickly revent to the old state anyway by updating the minimals.) The weird thing is that it may be that the minimals contain an older version, but I can fix that soon (I need to double-check why the font didn't get updated automatically since many other fonts do). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] bookmarks point to page, not to section start
Hello Hans,
I suspect that bookmarks to sections point to pages only, not to the
exact position where the sections start.
I have another document generated with Word and when I click to it,
the viewer (Preview.app) goes straight to section start, while when I
generate the document with ConTeXt, it only goes to the page, not to
exact section start.
The behaviour seems to be the same in both MKII and MKIV (MKII only
doesn't respect the accented characters; but I understand the pain of
recoding).
I'm using the following code to place the bookmarks:
\setupinteraction
[state=start]
\setupinteractionscreen
[option=bookmark]
\placebookmarks
[section,subsection,subsubsection]
[section,subsection]
\starttext
\dorecurse{20}{\section{title} \input tufte}
\stoptext
Mojca
PS: I can send a sample word-generated document off-list for
comparison if needed.
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Re: [NTG-context] [MkII] Difference in output in minimals versus TeX Live 2009
2010/2/26 Vedran Miletić je napisal: > Hi, > > is minimals supposed to have the same output using MkII as TeX Live > 2009? Or have I missunderstood what does it mean that 'MkII is > frozen'? It is declared frozen, but it may still happen that something changes unintentionally (and bugs that are easy to fix might be fixed as well). > I ask because I get different results on same document. I'm using > Palatino font. It seems related to spacing between letters in "il" and > "ij" that is larger in current minimals. Any ideas why? No. Can you please send a sample tex & both pdf documents? (If it's bigger than 40 or 60 kb, you need to post it somewhere.) There was a big difference between TL 2008 and now (when the whole font has been replaced from URW to TeX Gyre), but I see no reason why you should get a different result now. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] TEX line breaking algorithm in JavaScript
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 23:59, Martin Schröder wrote: > 2010/2/24 Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> http://www.bramstein.com/projects/typeset/ > > Wow! Combine with WOFF und HZ. :-) + http://code.google.com/p/hyphenator/ (to whom we may "donate" our pattern database :) And then you already have the complete TeX implementation. Maybe you can convince the author to come to DANTE meeting :) BachoTeX would be better of course, but since he's Dutch, convincing him to come to Dortmund might be easier to start with. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] [OT] TEX line breaking algorithm in JavaScript
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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] 2 columns itmize in letter module possible
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 09:55, Jörg Hecke wrote: > > Brilliant. Thanks. So, I have to update to the latest minimals, or download > the latest version from contextgarden modules site, right? If you have ever used --extras=t-letter and if the update has happened on the garden, the update should happen automatically (once within one day, usually earlier; it seems to be there already as you can see on http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/modules/t-letter/). So when you update minimals, it should be updated automatically. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Math in MKIV - HOWTO (was: Lucida Fonts with MKIV)
These basic set of rules should also apply to fourier or any other font that still needs better math support. I'm posting them on the list for future reference (for when the next volunteer pops up). On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 14:50, Troy Henderson wrote: > > I have followed the first set of instructions at > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lucida ... > Is there an easy way to adapt the configuration file(s) for MKII to MKIV? > If this is possible but just requires a tedious process, I'm willing > to do this, but I have no clue of the steps needed. So here are some basic instructions: Step 1: check what's in the fonts = The file lucida.map includes the following lines: hlcda LucidaNewMath-Arrows-Demi http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt minimal Win32 : kpathsea510.dll can not found !!!
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:11, Vnpenguin wrote: > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 23:12, Mojca Miklavec > wrote: >> >> I'm sorry for that. I have asked a few people and they claimed that it >> worked OK, but that might have been due to the fact that they already >> had kpathsea510.dll on their machines. >> >> I'm confused. Apparetly we need at least three different libraries >> then (kpathsea500, kpathsea510 and kpathsearch510). >> > > So any solution ? Or every user has to copy/rename this library manually ? No, it should be fixed now, but I need to rewrite some scripts on the garden (dll library names are hardcoded at some places and I need to fix that; Arthur has already written some code, we just need to integrate it properly and finish some other parts). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt minimal Win32 : kpathsea510.dll can not found !!!
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 21:09, Vnpenguin wrote: > Hi all, > Just download http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/context-setup-mswin.zip > and run first-setup.bat and I see the error about : > texlua.exe looks for kpathsea510.dll but this file was not found in > the distribution !!! I see only file kpathsearch510.dll so I make a > copy of this and rename to kpathsea510.dll. Now texlua.exe goes > without error. > > After installation, when I run "context --version" I see again the > error about "texlua.exe can not found kpathsea510.dll". Hm > I have to copy kpathsea510.dll (renamed early) into > context\tex\texmf-mswin\bin\ folder to work. > > There is some things changed for librarie file name ? > > I'm working with Windows XP SP3 32bit. I'm sorry for that. I have asked a few people and they claimed that it worked OK, but that might have been due to the fact that they already had kpathsea510.dll on their machines. I'm confused. Apparetly we need at least three different libraries then (kpathsea500, kpathsea510 and kpathsearch510). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] minimals: kfreebsd-i686 (debian)
2010/2/21 Vedran Miletić : > 2010/2/19 Mojca Miklavec : >> Eem ... while trying to add the architecture, I noticed that we >> don't have the basic TeX Live binaries (which has never been the case >> before). >> >> Alan - you'll need to compile TeX Live tree as well, sorry for that >> ... (and put it somewhere online where I can fetch it; if you don't >> have any other option, let me know). >> >> http://www.tug.org/texlive/svn/ >> >> You may also try to ask if it makes sense to add the architecture(s) >> to TeX Live, but in that case you need to find a maintainer as well >> (you?). >> >> Mojca > > AFAIK, Debian provides complete TeX Live on all platforms. Can't he > just copy the binaries over? No, because Debian has Debian-specific dependencies. But Alan already compiled the binaries and sent the link to TL (building) mailing list. I took them for minimals, but it depends on TL team whether they will add the platform or not. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Wiki page
There's alyaws "times roman something", where something corresponds to - I = 1 - X = 10 - C = 100 - M = 1000 So the "times" only tells you how many zeros to add to result. Mojca PS: Arthur will implement the parser to also accept roman numbers as a valid answer. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Mathdesign and Fourier fonts (was What do you miss in ConTeXt?)
But I realized that there's another problem anyway. At least for MKII ConTeXt wants to use ec-bchr8a.tfm and that file is not present in the package. This means that either: - one needs to provide new tfm files - one needs to fix the typescripts Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Mathdesign and Fourier fonts (was What do you miss in ConTeXt?)
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:15, Mikael Persson wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Mikael Persson wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Mikael Persson wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 16-2-2010 11:38, Mikael Persson wrote:
>
> Thank you Mojca and Aditya for your answers,
>
> I hope the mathdesign part of mtx-update.lua will end up in the
> orignal file. I do not know how to use it now.
>
> If I save this file and update with "sh firstsetup.sh --extras=all"
> (or --extras=mathdesign) it seems that the mtx-update.lua is
> overwritten with the version from the server. I do not know howto
> upgrade with mtx-update.lua without firstsetup.sh.
>
> About the fourier fonts. Is there a lot of work to do in math-vfu.lua
> to get it to work? I looked into that file, but it was a bit hard to
> understand what is needed...
>
> Maybe it is hard work to get the fonts working, but I really think
> that if we have several text+math fonts easily available in the
> minimals that will make (new) users very happy.
it depends ... if the font is in tex default encoding then it's only a
matter of adding a small table
>>>
>>> I'm not 100% sure how it works wth font encodings, but the fourier doc
>>> (http://mirror.ctan.org/fonts/fourier-GUT/doc/latex/fourier/fourier-doc-en.pdf)
>>> says that the fonts are _fully_ T1 encoded.
>>>
>>> Mikael
>>>
>>> PS: Hans, do you have any comments about the mathdesign patch
>>> suggested by Mojca above?
>>
>> I have now manually downloaded the mathdesign fonts (and the charter
>> fonts, not available on the server it seems)
>>
>> The fonts gets used, but I get upright math letters instead of italic
>> ones. My test file is given by
>>
>> \definetypeface[charter][rm][serif][charter] [default]
>> \definetypeface[charter][mm][math] [charter] [default]
>>
>> \setupbodyfont[charter,10pt]
>>
>> \starttext
>> We define, for real $x$, the absolute value of $x$ as
>> \startformula
>> |x|=
>> \startcases
>> \NC \hphantom{-}x \MC x\geq 0,\NR
>> \NC -x \MC x<0.\NR
>> \stopcases
>> \stopformula
>> Also let $\alpha$, $\beta$ and $\Gamma$ be\dots
>> \stoptext
>>
>> The output can be found at
>>
>> http://home.imf.au.dk/mickep/mdesign.pdf
>>
>> Typesetting a similar document with LaTeX I get italic math (note also
>> that the \Gamma is upright, I guess that this is an option that is
>> turned on by default by LaTeX)
>>
>> http://home.imf.au.dk/mickep/lmdesign.pdf
>>
>> I guess this has something to do with the following lines in math-vfu.lua
>>
>> mathematics.make_font ( "charter-math", {
>> { name = "file:bchr8a", features = "virtualmath", main = true },
>> -- { name = "md-chr7m.tfm", vector = "tex-mr" },
>> { name = "md-chri7m.tfm", vector = "tex-mi", skewchar=0x7F },
>> { name = "md-chri7m.tfm", vector = "tex-it", skewchar=0x7F },
>> { name = "md-chr7y.tfm", vector = "tex-sy", skewchar=0x30,
>> parameters = true },
>> { name = "md-chr7v.tfm", vector = "tex-ex", extension = true },
>> { name = "msam10.tfm", vector = "tex-ma" },
>> { name = "msbm10.tfm", vector = "tex-mb" },
>> } )
>>
>> However, I am not able guess what to change (I tried different things
>> available in mdbch.map).
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>
>> Mikael
>>
>
> Hans, Mojca, Aditya, Wolfgang and others
>
> 1) Can anyone confirm this problem in the previous mail or point out
> what might be wrong?
I cannot confirm since I get
Assertion failed: (l_fonts[1] != 0), function read_char_packets, file
../../../source/texk/web2c/luatexdir/font/luafont.c, line 881.
MTXrun | fatal error: no return code, message: luatex: execution interrupted
> 2) The problem Troy had with lucida, is it the same?
Might be related, but solving one won't solve the other one.
> 3) What is needed to get fourier fonts working? Is it enough adding to
> math-vfu.lua an entry like
> mathematics.make_font ( "fourier-math", { ...
> })
> with the right names for fourier?
If the font comes with some weird encoding, then you also need to
write the whole slot-to-unicode mapping.
See for example:
fonts.enc.math["tex-sy"] = {
[0x0002D] = 0x00, -- -
[0x02212] = 0x00, -- -
-- [0x02201] = 0x00, -- complement
-- [0x02206] = 0x00, -- increment
-- [0x02204] = 0x00, -- not exists
--~ [0x000B7] = 0x01, -- cdot
[0x022C5] = 0x01, -- cdot
[0x000D7] = 0x02, -- times
[0x0002A] = 0x03, -- *
[0x02217] = 0x03, -- *
[0x000F7] = 0x04, -- div
[0x022C4] = 0x05, -- diamond
[0x000B1] = 0x06, -- pm
[0x02213] = 0x07, -- mp
There is
mathematics.make_font ( "charter-math", {
{ name = "file:bchr8a", features = "virtualmath", main = true },
-- { name = "md-chr7m.tfm", vector = "tex-mr" },
{ name = "md-chri7m.tfm", vector = "tex-mi", skewchar=0x7F },
{ name = "md-chri7m.tfm", vector = "tex-it", skewchar=0x7F },
{ name = "md-chr7y.tfm", vector = "tex-sy", skewchar=0x30,
par
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:51, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 20-2-2010 5:06, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>> I don't know how Hans' metric files look like, but:
>> - texfont --ve=yandy ... doesn't do anything here
>> - texfont --ve=bh ... creates a bunch of files, however *not* the T1
>> files which are of crucial importance to me; T1 (=ec) is only
>> supported via virtual fonts. (And even then the character looks just
>> about terrible, but still better than not having it at all.)
>
> afaik originally yand only shipped texnansi metrics
\definetypescriptprefix [e:ec] [8t]
\definetypescriptprefix [e:texnansi] [8y]
\definetypescriptprefix [e:8r] [8r]
Quite possible. Lucida doesn't provide all the ec glyphs anyway (č is
not present), but the virtual font on CTAN apparently fakes it
successfully by placing caron over c and taking two glyphs
(successfully only in technical meaning, so that it works in the first
place; typographically it's obvious that the one who did the virtual
font has never used that glyph).
> however, in context we have this texnansi-* naming scheme and for a while
> (as i used lucida often) i shipped the texnansi-* metrics
The metrics are there already, it's only that their naming scheme is
weird. But unless someone really depends on raw tfm names, the
following should work OK:
\starttypescript [mono] [lucida] [ec,texnansi,8r]
\definefontsynonym [\typescriptthree-lbtr]
[hlcrt\typescriptprefix{e:\typescriptthree}]
[encoding=\typescriptthree] % LucidaTypewriter
\definefontsynonym [\typescriptthree-lbtb]
[hlcbt\typescriptprefix{e:\typescriptthree}]
[encoding=\typescriptthree] % LucidaTypewriterBold
\definefontsynonym [\typescriptthree-lbto]
[hlcrot\typescriptprefix{e:\typescriptthree}]
[encoding=\typescriptthree] % LucidaTypewriterOblique
\definefontsynonym [\typescriptthree-lbtbo]
[hlcbot\typescriptprefix{e:\typescriptthree}]
[encoding=\typescriptthree] % LucidaTypewriterBoldOblique
\definefontsynonym [LucidaTypewriter]
[\typescriptthree-lbtr] [encoding=\typescriptthree]
\definefontsynonym [LucidaTypewriterBold]
[\typescriptthree-lbtb] [encoding=\typescriptthree]
\definefontsynonym [LucidaTypewriterOblique]
[\typescriptthree-lbto] [encoding=\typescriptthree]
\definefontsynonym [LucidaTypewriterBoldOblique]
[\typescriptthree-lbtbo] [encoding=\typescriptthree]
\loadmapfile[lucida.map]
\stoptypescript
If one doesn't need the texnansi-lbr synonyms, it can be done more
efficiently in a single step.
Alternatively we can of course ship the metrics, but assume some LaTeX
user with an already working LaTeX installation of Lucida - wouldn't
it be great if it worked in ConTeX out-of-the-box?
> now, when yandy went out of business and tug took over, things changed and
> as the original tfm (math) metrics were no longer shipped we ended up in
> some deadlock: context supported the original fonts (present on machines of
> users) while tug didn't ship those 8 tfm files needed for math
But now the tfm files for math are shipped, or am I missing something?
Do you mean some other math fonts? The package on CTAN has the
following tfm files (and maybe some extra ones in vf that I didn't
manage to check completely yet):
hlcda LucidaNewMath-Arrows-Demiso, at that point i simply gave up on lucida (i had my own texnansi-* +
> original math tfm files) as changing context would break existing lucida
> usage
>
> interesting is that the lucida metrics (afaik) are not shipped with tex live
> so we cannot create a robust solution unless we ship with the minimale:
What does robust mean? One needs to buy the font anyway, so it won't
work out of the box, but it would be nice if it worked out of the box
with the files that TUG does ship. Metrics in TeX live don't really
help without pfb files and if one installs pfb files, one may easily
copy everything else along. Of course we can add the metrics to
minimals (optional install), but I would prefer them to match the ones
from TUG (currently they are also available on CTAN).
> for mkiv (luatex):
>
> - afm files (for mkiv)
> - map file (can be small one)
> - only some 8 math tfm files for mkiv
>
> for mkii:
>
> - map file
> - tfm files (dunno which ones)
> - vf files (dunno which ones)
I can double-check which ones are not needed, but we could drop at
least the 8r encoding.
> for mkiv i already adapted the typescripts (in beta), for mkii we need
> different mappings
I'll take a look. I have noticed that math-vfu does use the metric
names from the latest set of fonts.
Hoewere one needs to keep in mind t
Re: [NTG-context] Lucida Fonts with MKIV
Hello,
Here are some of my observations about Lucida fonts (font part for
now; math part comes later). I made a detailed check of files that are
present on CTAN.
I don't know how Hans' metric files look like, but:
- texfont --ve=yandy ... doesn't do anything here
- texfont --ve=bh ... creates a bunch of files, however *not* the T1
files which are of crucial importance to me; T1 (=ec) is only
supported via virtual fonts. (And even then the character looks just
about terrible, but still better than not having it at all.)
I have fixed the typescripts, so that one doesn't need to generate any
additional files apart from those present on CTAN (and we can also add
them to minimals, but it might be nice to cooperate with Hans first to
prevent any name clashes). I'll send the typescripts once I figure out
some problems, but:
1.) Hans, why does
\definefontsynonym [LucidaBright] [file:hlhr.pfb]
fail with the message below? (I can send a complete example off-list.)
How does one use pfb fonts then? Anyway, \definefontsynonym
[LucidaBright] [name:LucidaBright] works fine, so that's ok for now.
Using the accents in XeTeX would require extra tricks anyway, so
concentrating on pdftex and luatex seems reasonable.
2.) When reading typescripts for mkii with mkiv ("ec" encoding that is
based on virtual fonts), I don't get any accent at all, not even š and
ž that are part of texnansi encoding and are present in font. Why is
that?
3.) When creating a devoted mkiv typescript, č is missing (and so are
ćđ, but I can live without the two of them as long as Nino is not
nearby :), however not being able to use č is a no-go for me.
I'll get to math later. At the moment I had to figure out how the
files are organized and how to use them without having to depend on
texfont.
Mojca
-
Here's the error when using [file:something.pfb] as file name:
! LuaTeX error ...cida/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:308:
attempt to call field '?' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
...cida/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:308: in
function 'read'
...cida/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:585: in
function 'read'
...cida/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:367: in
function 'command_2'
:1: in main chunk.
\lowleveldefinefont ...lax , "\relativefontid " )}
\edef \somefontspec {at \s...
\xxdododefinefont ...efont {#4}\newfontidentifier
\fi \csname \newfontidenti...
\applyfontclassstrategies ...\fontsize \endcsname
\else \expandafter \fontcl...
\synchronizefont ...lse \applyfontclassstrategies
\fi \autofontsizefalse \if...
\rm ->\ifmmode \mathrm \else \normalrm
\fi
\doswitchstyle ...e \csname \...@style@ #1\endcsname
\edef \fontstyle {#1}\ifmm...
...
l.9 \setupbodyfont[lucida]
?
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Re: [NTG-context] minimals: kfreebsd-i686 (debian)
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 20:31, Alan BRASLAU wrote: > Hello, > > I just installed kfreebsd-i686 Debian/GNU. It is now officially supported as > core architecture by Debian as an alternative to the linux kernel, but is not > yet supported by the ConTeXt minimals. Eem ... while trying to add the architecture, I noticed that we don't have the basic TeX Live binaries (which has never been the case before). Alan - you'll need to compile TeX Live tree as well, sorry for that ... (and put it somewhere online where I can fetch it; if you don't have any other option, let me know). http://www.tug.org/texlive/svn/ You may also try to ask if it makes sense to add the architecture(s) to TeX Live, but in that case you need to find a maintainer as well (you?). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] gnuplot in mkiv
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 20:19, Peter Münster wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17 2010, Martin 'golodhrim' Scholz wrote: >> >> is a direct usage of gnuplot in ConTeXt MKIV possible > > Yes. > > Example: > > \usemodule[gnuplot] > \setupGNUPLOT[terminal=png] > \startGNUPLOTscript[sin] > plot sin(x) > \stopGNUPLOTscript > \starttext > \useGNUPLOTgraphic[sin] > \stoptext The context terminal should also work (that is: you may leave out the "\setupGNUPLOT[terminal=png]" or replace png with context that's default anyway), but you need some special effort to compile the terminal: git clone git://github.com/mojca/gnuplot.git ./prepare ./configure make If you would like to keep using that, you can do yourself and others the favor and write a request to gnuplot-b...@lists.sourceforge.net to include the terminal in gnuplot's CVS (they say that not enough people have tested and/or requested its inclusion). An alternative is to use the lua-tikz terminal. Peter has an almost-working version that should produce almost-valid (not yet optimized and maybe not completely future-proof yet) ConTeXt output, but is not included in official gnuplot version yet (and also the gnuplot module in ConTeXt needs to be polished a bit in that respect). Using tikz is not ready yet, but is doable if you have some patience. You may use [just-in-time or precompiled] PDF/PS/PNG terminals of course, but you won't be able to add TeX labels and use native document fonts. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] metapost
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 22:34, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 22:18, Martin 'golodhrim' Scholz wrote: >> Hi list, >> does anybody know how I could start metapost itself standalone from the >> context-minimals? mpost is telling me there is no mpost.mem and no >> plain.mem file so it can not start... Thanks for any hint... > > You can try > texexec --make mpost There's also a switch --formats=... in mtx-update.lua (that is, one can call first-setup.sh with --formats=... switch), but I have probably not tested that yet. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] metapost
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Re: [NTG-context] "\setuplabeltext [appendix=Appendix ]" broken mkiv
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 18:44, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
>
> Why \definehead[appendix][chapter]?
> Why not use \chapter{} and \section{}
> within \startappendices\stopappendices?
I don't remember exactly (and it was bug anyway even if my code could
have been optimized), but I wanted to have different font size,
different position, different placement in TOC ("Appendix A - Title"
instea of just "A Title"), different page breaking, ... Though I still
didn't figure out how to have "Appendix A -" also printed out in TOC
(instead of plain "A").
So I simply defined another type of section (faster solution than
figuring out how to change appearance of chapter in appendices only).
> \chapter{} and \section{} get put into the TOC.
> (However, there is a bug and they do not get the proper label:
> \setlabeltext [appendix=Appendix ] in the head;
> \setlabeltext [chapter=Chapter ] in the list.)
>
> \appendix{} does not get put into the TOC
> so it works like \title{} rather than \chapter{}
I defined the second list for that purpose (really ugly, but the
fastest way to get it done). But there was a tiny problem with that as
well (mkii more problematic) - I didn't manage to get the spacing
between two consecutive lists right. For example (compare mkii and
mkiv):
\definecombinedlist
[contenta]
[chapter,section]
[level=section,
criterium=all,alternative=c,aligntitle=yes,width=2.5em]
\setuplist
[chapter]
[style=bold]
\setupwhitespace[big]
\starttext
\placecontenta [alternative=c,aligntitle=yes,width=2.5em]
\placecontenta [alternative=c,aligntitle=yes,width=2.5em]
\blank % no effect in mkii at all - remains too narrow
\placecontenta [alternative=c,aligntitle=yes,width=2.5em]
\blank\blank[big]
\placecontenta [alternative=c,aligntitle=yes,width=2.5em]
\crlf % too big
\placecontenta [alternative=c,aligntitle=yes,width=2.5em]
\chapter{a}
\section{a.1}
\section{a.2}
\chapter{b}
\section{b.1}
\section{b.2}
\stoptext
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] "\setuplabeltext [appendix=Appendix ]" broken mkiv
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 16:31, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> 1. Setting the labeltext "appendix=Appendix " with \startappendices
> is broken in mkiv; somewhat works in mkii. What am I doing wrong?
> 2. How to set the label correctly in the TOC?
>
> Alan
>
> Minimal example
>
> \setuplabeltext [chapter=Chapter ] % with trailing space; blank by default
> \setuplabeltext [appendix=Appendix ] % with trailing space; blank by default
> \setuphead [chapter] [placehead=yes]
> \setuplist [chapter] [label=yes,width=5em,alternative=c]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startfrontmatter
> \completecontent
> \stopfrontmatter
>
> \startbodymatter
> \chapter {one}
> \input knuth
> \stopbodymatter
>
> \startappendices
> \chapter {first}
> \input knuth
> \stopappendices
>
> \stoptext
While you keep Hans and others busy, here's another thing that puzzled me:
\definehead[appendix][chapter]
\definehead[subappendix][section]
\starttext
\startappendices
\appendix{one}
\subappendix{one.one}
\appendix{two}
\subappendix{two.one}
\stopappendices
\stoptext
In mkii it gives A.1 and B.1 for numbering, but in mkiv it gives A.1
and B.2 (it forgets to reset the counter for "subappendix").
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Mathdesign and Fourier fonts (was What do you miss in ConTeXt?)
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 20:06, Mikael Persson wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Am 10.02.10 09:00, schrieb Mikael Persson:
>>
>> MkIV has support for the Charter and the Mathdesign fonts.
>>
>> \definetypafec[charter][rm][serif][charter] [default]
>> %\definetypafec[charter][mm][math] [mathdesignch][default]
>> \definetypafec[charter][mm][math] [charter] [default]
>>
>> What's missing are the fonts but they are already on the server [1],
>> Mojca should be able to tell you how you can install them.
>>
>> [1] http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/fonts/extra/
>>
>> Wolfgang
>
> Thanks for your reply Wolfgang. I use the minimals and have some
> further questions:
>
> 1) Is there any way to use first-setup.sh to install these fonts?
At the moment there is a switch
--extras=t-module1name,t-module2name
the following quick-and dirty patch should enable you to use
--extras=mathdesign
But then you need to convince Hans to apply the patch (or maybe
improve it before that):
if extras and type(extras) == "table" then
-- fetch the list of available modules from rsync server
local available_modules = get_list_of_files_from_rsync({"modules/"})
local available_fonts = get_list_of_files_from_rsync({"fonts/extra/"})
-- hash of requested modules
-- local h = table.tohash(extras:split(","))
for _, s in ipairs(available_modules) do
-- if extras == "all" or h[s] then
if extras.all or extras[s] then
scripts.update.modules[#scripts.update.modules+1] = {
format("modules/%s/",s), "texmf-context" }
end
end
for _, s in ipairs(available_fonts) do
if extras.all or extras[s] then
scripts.update.modules[#scripts.update.modules+1] = {
format("fonts/extra/%s/",s), "texmf" }
end
end
-- TODO: check if every module from the list has been added and
issue warning otherwise
-- one idea to do it: remove every value from h once added and
then check if anything is left in h
end
> 2) The type1 dir is empty. Is that on purpose? Should one download the
> pfb files from ctan?
No, it was a mistake. I had a "fonts/*/public/mathdesign" in pattern,
but mathdesign is not under "public" in TeX Live. Either I didn't test
it properly or TeX Live has changed their location, but the first
option is way more probable.
I have a feeling that some other font has been requested recently, but
I don't recall which one/who wrote that (I don't find the mail any
more).
Mojca
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[NTG-context] \textat (@)
Hello,
I know that people would usually use \type{em...@address.com}, but I
must be missing something. Is there really no \textat (under some
other name) defined anywhere in ConTeXt?
The following definition in ec (and probably some other encodings) as
well as in char-def.lua
\definecharacter textat 64
might be handy.
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Re: [NTG-context] windows users: please don't update context yet
> Dear windows users, > > I'm in a hurry now (Carnival), but I have a tiny request: please don't > update windows minimals until further notice (tonight in the evening, > I suppose) since some libraries are missing. I hope that I have fixed the situation, but I didn't manage to test it yet (I have added new libraries, but it may be that I removed a library that's nevertheless needed for old TL binaries; that is kpathsea357.dll). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ancient greek module
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 18:16, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Hi, > > is "t-greek-2008.08.11.zip" still valid (and recommended for MkIV?) > > From contextgarden: > The requested URL /modules/t-greek/doc/greek/ancientgreek.pdf was not found > on this server. > The requested URL /modules/t-greek/doc/greek/readme.txt was not found on this > server. There's only http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/t-greek/doc/context/third/greek/readme on the server at the moment. I have no idea where the pdf file has gone - the readme has apparently been moved to another location, but maybe Thomas forgot to update the docs. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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Re: [NTG-context] Where did page numbers go?
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 20:55, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 09.02.10 20:36, schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
>>
>> Hello Hans,
>>
>> \currentpage (as already reported by Peter Münster) doesn't work in
>> MKIV (always returns 1) and \setnumber[page]{0} has zero effect (in
>> MKII; in MKIV I cannot test it anyway).
>>
>
> \pagenumber?
>
> MkIV has no counter 'page' but 'realpage', 'userpage' and 'subpage'.
- But why should \currentpage stop working? (Is there any stong reason
to break compatibility?)
- I'm testing \subpage and get: 1, I, I, I, the \userpage gives me 1,
II, III, IV; \currentpage gives me 1, 1, 1, 1; I'll try to post a
minimal example, but I stongly suspect that something is a bit broken
here.
- Is there a way to say "\thisisreallythelastpage", so that
\totalnumberofpages (or some other counter) doesn't count any
leftovers from the end? (I'll try to play a bit more with that, so you
don't need to answer me that last question, but I find the behaviour
of other counters really strange.)
The number 1 is on frontmatter, the uppercase roman numbers are on
bodypart (without setting any conversion at all).
Mojca
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[NTG-context] Where did page numbers go?
Hello Hans,
\currentpage (as already reported by Peter Münster) doesn't work in
MKIV (always returns 1) and \setnumber[page]{0} has zero effect (in
MKII; in MKIV I cannot test it anyway).
Thanks,
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Re: [NTG-context] colors without \definecolor
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 22:56, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 07.02.10 07:24, schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
>>>
>>> while \color can only be used as
>>>
>>> \color[rgb]{...}.
>>
>> No. Both \color[rgb]{...} and {\color[rgb]...} are valid
>
> D’oh. I looked in the source and missed this but I wonder
> if this had been always the case because the manuals
> {and the wiki) mention only \color[name]{...}.
\colored is a rather recent command.
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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 08:45, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > If I understand correctly, the context-dstroke ebuild is just downloading > the doublestroke font http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/doublestroke/ > and installing it in a proper TDS structure. > > This is a small font, so I think that it is OK to just add this to the > minimals. Mojca, what do you think? That's fine with me. Just a question (I didn't check yet): is the font supported in ConTeXt core? Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Error using Minimal with TeXworks
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 00:31, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 5-2-2010 20:34, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> >> It used to work until Hans started using texmfstart.exe. As opposed to > > btw, texmfstart.exe is just the ruby script with ruby packages in a zip and > at some point that wrapper system changed (out of our control) but the > latest texmfstart is just mtxrun (using lua) ... Which is even worse since MikTeX has been promising to release LuaTeX for a long time (already for 2.8) and thene's still just a question mark to whether it will be released in 2.9. At the moment there would be two options: - fix the old texmfstart (probably won't happen) - wait for luatex in MikTeX Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Error using Minimal with TeXworks
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 18:40, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 5-2-2010 17:26, Alain Delmotte wrote: >> >> Also, is it possible to run ConTeXt from MikTeX 2.8? > > no clue .. there was a time that mojca showed me a working miktex It used to work until Hans started using texmfstart.exe. As opposed to standalone version of ConTeXt some paths had not been resolved properly on MikTeX (a bug in ConTeXt), but nobody had ever debug the behaviour, so CS removed ConTeXt from MikTeX packages. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Error using Minimal with TeXworks
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 17:26, Alain Delmotte wrote: > > After a long time without having time to play with ConTeXt, I reinstalled a > new Minimals using the manual method with rsync, added TeXworks in the > proper folder. > Under Texworks, I also pointed to the bin folder of Context. > > But when compiling a document, I get: > MTXrun | fileio: no cnf files found (TEXMFCNF may not be set/known) > MTXrun | fileio: remembering file 'mtx-context.lua' > MTXrun | fileio: remembering file 'mtx-contexts.lua' > MTXrun | fileio: remembering file 'mtx-context.lua' > MTXrun | fileio: remembering file 'context.lua' > MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua' > > Any solution? How exactly did you install it and how exactly did you run it? You can also use --goodies=texworks while intsalling the minimals. > Also, is it possible to run ConTeXt from MikTeX 2.8? Not that I would know of. I mean: it's possible to use it (with all the font files that come with MikTeX), but you need to install it and update it manually. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context minimals
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 20:06, Martin 'golodhrim' Scholz wrote: > On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:04:48 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: >> On 1-2-2010 21:47, Martin 'golodhrim' Scholz wrote: >> >>> thanks for your info, so I have the opinion that the git is much faster >>> and if contextgarden has one, is it possible to add a git for the >>> minimals there or who does one have to ask for it. >> >> mojca as she's in charge of the minimals > > Hi Hans, Hi Mojca, hi list, > > finished today an ebuild for funtoo, should also work under gentoo if > interested for an add to the contextgarden wiki let me know. > > And Mojca, would be nice to get direct contact to you for some infos > concerning the build process of context-minimals. Just reply to my mail- > address from which I post. I'm sorry. I'm here and I'm reading, it's just that I didn't yet figure out what to reply to you about git. About the speed of git: it's indeed very fast, but you need to bear in mind that you would need to download the whole archive of every single luatex binary version (OK, compressed, but still). If we start shipping the minimals as git repository (but then we would ship it as a whole) it would be best to just put a cron job on contextgarden.net that would update on regular bases. Volunteer? Mojca PS: rsync also updates "only changed files" which was still better than updating the whole zip, though it does update the whole files, not just the differences between files. It also has an advantage that one would then easily switch back in time locally if something goes wrong. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] texexec --purge (was: Linux PPC64 & minimals)
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 15:34, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 15:15, Roger Mason wrote:
>> Hi Mojca,
>>
>> texexec --purge simple.tex -> Output written on simple.pdf (1 page,
>> 28424 bytes).
>>
>> texexec simple.tex -> Output written on simple.pdf (1 page, 28424
>> bytes).
>>
>> The document is always produced correctly, but --purge does not do its
>> job and produces the errors listed in my original post.
>
> OK, that's reproducible here as well.
The problem goes away if I comment out the lines 2053 and 2054 of
tex.rb. I suspect that
Kpse.runscript('ctxtools',rawbase,'--purge') if getvariable('purge')
doesn't call the ctxtools script with proper quoting, so arguments are
interpreted as commands instead of being just arguments.
But I didn't inspect any further.
Mojca
texexec --verbose --purge besedilo
...
pdfTeX warning: pdftex: no GlyphToUnicode entry has been inserted yet!
Output written on besedilo.pdf (2 pages, 124469 bytes).
Transcript written on besedilo.log.
TeXUtil | parsing file besedilo.tui
TeXUtil | shortcuts : 398
TeXUtil | expansions: 308
TeXUtil | reductions: 0
TeXUtil | divisions : 0
TeXUtil | loaded files: 1
TeXUtil | temporary files: 0
TeXUtil | commands: 29
TeXUtil | programs: 0
TeXUtil | tuo file saved
sh: version: command not found
sh: line 2: --bbeditinterface: command not found
sh: line 3: --brandfiles: command not found
sh: line 4: --contextversion: command not found
sh: line 5: --dependencies: command not found
sh: line 5: filenames]]: command not found
sh: line 6: --disarmutfbom: command not found
sh: line 7: --documentation: command not found
sh: line 8: --dpxmapfiles: command not found
sh: line 9: --jeditinterface: command not found
sh: line 10: --listentities: command not found
sh: line 11: --patternfiles: command not found
sh: line 12: --platformize: command not found
sh: line 13: --purgefiles: command not found
sh: line 14: --rawinterface: command not found
sh: line 15: --sciteinterface: command not found
sh: line 16: --touchcontextfile: command not found
sh: line 17: --updatecontext: command not found
sh: line 18: --purge: command not found
TeXExec | runtime: 5.496058
TeXExec | option 'purge' is set to 'true'
TeXExec | option 'verbose' is set to 'true'
TeXExec | option 'randomseed' is set to '132'
TeXExec | option 'filename' is set to 'besedilo.tex'
TeXExec | option 'mainlanguage' is set to 'standard'
TeXExec | option 'bodyfont' is set to 'standard'
TeXExec | option 'language' is set to 'standard'
TeXExec | option 'engine' is set to 'standard'
TeXExec | option 'distribution' is set to 'web2c'
TeXExec | option 'texformats' is set to 'en'
TeXExec | option 'mpsformats' is set to 'metafun'
TeXExec | option 'progname' is set to 'standard'
TeXExec | option 'interface' is set to 'standard'
TeXExec | option 'runs' is set to '8'
TeXExec | option 'backend' is set to 'standard'
located : context-tex-besedilo.ctx ->
scripts : ctxtools -> CtxTools | version 1.3.5 - 2004/2008 - PRAGMA ADE
CtxTools | --bbeditinterface generate bbedit syntax files [--pipe]
CtxTools | --brandfiles add context copyright notice [--force]
CtxTools | --contextversion report context version
CtxTools | --dependencies analyze depedencies within context
[--save --compact --filter=[macros|filenames]] [filename]
CtxTools | --disarmutfbom remove utf bom [--force]
CtxTools | --documentationgenerate documentation [--type=] [filename]
CtxTools | --dpxmapfiles convert pdftex mapfiles to dvipdfmx
[--force] [texmfroot]
CtxTools | --jeditinterface generate jedit syntax files [--pipe]
CtxTools | --listentities create doctype entity definition from enco-uc.tex
CtxTools | --patternfiles generate pattern files [--all --xml
--utf8] [languagecode]
CtxTools | --platformize replace line-endings [--recurse --force] [pattern]
CtxTools | --purgefiles remove temporary files [--all --recurse]
[basename]
CtxTools | --rawinterface generate raw syntax files [--pipe]
CtxTools | --sciteinterface generate scite syntax files [--pipe]
CtxTools | --touchcontextfile update context version
CtxTools | --updatecontextdownload latest version and remake
formats [--proxy]
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Re: [NTG-context] Linux PPC64 & minimals
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 15:15, Roger Mason wrote: > Hi Mojca, > > texexec --purge simple.tex -> Output written on simple.pdf (1 page, > 28424 bytes). > > texexec simple.tex -> Output written on simple.pdf (1 page, 28424 > bytes). > > The document is always produced correctly, but --purge does not do its > job and produces the errors listed in my original post. OK, that's reproducible here as well. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Linux PPC64 & minimals
Two remarks: 1.) Thomas, can you please send me the patch (I can write it myself, but I will not be 100% to get it right). It seems that we need to modify that in several different places (mtx-something.lua, setuptex and first-setup.sh). 2.) The error is not related to minimals/wrong architecture. There may be several reasons. Different shell? Missing mkiv formats? (Can you try "luatools --generate"? It could be that mtxrun doesn't find ctxtools.) Something third? Does compiling a simple document work? Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Context and Windows7
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:51, Keith McKay wrote: > Should I download the > minimals and look into an editor other than Scite, which I never felt > totally comfortable with anyway. There is also TeXworks (--goodies=texworks) in command line. Scite is almost ready to be used the same way. Hans sent me a file for scite support, but I'm not sure yet where to put the binaries and all the special setting files (without testing on windows). Mojca (But I have no time to fix anything today.) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Linux PPC64 & minimals
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 15:43, Roger Mason wrote: > Hello, > > I just tried to install the minimals on: > > uname -a > Linux perthite 2.6.30-gentoo-r5 #6 SMP Wed Jan 13 17:59:36 NST 2010 > ppc64 PPC970FX, altivec supported PowerMac7,3 GNU/Linux > > but got: > > sh ./first-setup.sh > Error: your system "Linux ppc64" is not supported yet. > Please report to the ConTeXt mailing-list (ntg-context@ntg.nl) > > The machine reports as ppc64 but it is running a 64 bit kernel with 32 > bit userland. > > I'd like to know how to proceed. If necessary I am quite willing to > build the minimals on this platform and contribute the binaries back to > the wiki. Oh, it's nice to hear that Apple is not the only game spoiler :) :) :) So: 32-bit binaries are working on 64-bit machine, but 64-bit binaries would fit better if they existed? Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] minimals: kfreebsd-i686 (debian)
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 20:31, Alan BRASLAU wrote: > Hello, > > I just installed kfreebsd-i686 Debian/GNU. It is now officially supported as > core architecture by Debian as an alternative to the linux kernel, but is not > yet supported by the ConTeXt minimals. > > luatex 0.50.0-1 is available as a standard debian package on this > architecture. > > I downloaded luatex/trunk from svn and it compiles and runs correctly: > $ build/texk/web2c/luatex --version > This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.50.0-2010012620 > > Who should I contact (or will contact me) to see about adding this > architecture to the minimals distribution? Me, but I won't be online until Thursday and even then I'll be 100% occupied until Monday. Try to do svn co http://svn.contextgarden.net/minimals-src/build-binaries try to fix platform.sh and then run do_all.sh (but before that comment out the line that tries to commit the binaries). Once you do that, you'll be able to commit the binaries after I adapt code at a few places. Also, we need to agree on platform name. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new language and hyphenation
One thing that doesn't work here is
\s!mapping=,
\s!encoding=,
It doesn't respect the fact that I don't want to use any patterns in
mkii (encoding={ec,il2} works properly, but empty parameter seem to
assume ec by default). Maybe we need to add l7x support after all (or
Hans needs to fix the behaviour).
Else TeX MKII reports invalid patterns.
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] updating Minimals for MKIV
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:14, Gour wrote:
> Hiya!
>
> * For making MKIV format
>
> luatools --selfupdate
> mtxrun --selfupdate
--selfupdate is meant for you to be on the safe side. Update mechanism
should now update these two files, so it should not be really needed.
> luatools --generate
> context --make
luatools --generate is definitely needed on fresh install (it should
be done automatically, but it isn't for some weird md5-related reason
I suppose).
Once you have mkiv working, the "context --make" is executed
automatically in case that formts don't match.
> while the package for Archlinux has the following update function:
>
> post_upgrade() {
> source /opt/context-minimals/setuptex
> mktexlsr
> texexec --make cont-en metafun
> texexec --make --xetex
This is needed for mkii only.
> echo "*"
> echo "To use ConTeXt minimals run"
> echo " /opt/context-minimals/setuptex"
> echo "To use MkIV run"
> echo " luatools --generate"
> echo "*"
> }
>
>
> i.e. only "luatools --generate".
>
> Anyone can clarify?
I guess that's because mkiv generates new formats automatically (I'm
not sure if it also calls luatools --generate in that case, but it
could if it doesn't).
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] new language and hyphenation
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 22:24, Marius wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Mojca Miklavec
> wrote:
>>
>> Apart from that you need to submit translation for your language (see
>> lang-ger.tex and lang-bal.tex), or at least that would be very nice.
>> Some settings there are necessary if you want to enable the extra
>> patterns. There are some more things to be done, but you may start by
>> translating the strings and filling other holes in lang-bal.tex.
>
> To do it I need to understand what all these parameters mean.
> \installlanguage [..1.] [..,.=2.,..]
> 1 IDENTIFIER
> 2 spacing = packed broad
> lefthyphenmin = NUMBER
should be 2
> righthyphenmin = NUMBER
should be 2 - the minimum number of characters that are allowed to the
left and right of hyphen character.
> state = start stop
start - enable language
> leftsentence = COMMAND
> rightsentence = COMMAND
> leftsubsentence = COMMAND
> rightsubsentence = COMMAND
> leftquote = COMMAND
> rightquote = COMMAND
Quote is for single quotation mark (when nesting):
A said: \quotation{B said: \quote{some sentence}}
> leftquotation = COMMAND
> rightquotation = COMMAND
> leftspeech = COMMAND
> middlespeech = COMMAND
> rightspeech = COMMAND
> limittext = TEXT
> date = TEXT
Take a look at other examples in lang-ger/ita/sla/tex. You need to
write date format.
> compoundhyphen = COMMAND
> leftcompoundhyphen = COMMAND
> rightcompoundhyphen = COMMAND
> default = IDENTIFIER
> What is the difference between quote and quotation? I always use double
> quote, like this: „example“
Usually there must exist another set of quotation marks for nesting
quotations. Rarely used, but ...
> Next, I need to know there all strings, which I translate, will be used.
> Maybe, there is an example document with all english strings used.
There is no, but maybe we could make one :)
> For example:
> Figure 1: Caption of the figure
> 1 pav. Caption of the figure
> Table 1: Caption of the table
> 1 lentelė. Caption of the table
Nice. I guess that you gave a nice homework to Hans :)
I didn't check, but I have not seen any setting to change the order of
number & label yet.
> In a table of contents and in section names there must be period after
> number:
This can be fixed in mkiv; a bit harder in mkii.
> 1. Name
> 1.1. Name2
> 1.1.2. Name3
> exept:
> Chapter 1
> 1 skyrius
>>
>> The main question is: do you need them only for MKIV/XeTeX or do you
>> also want them for MKII?
>
> I use utf8 and MKIV.
That's fine then.
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] new language and hyphenation
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 17:23, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 20-1-2010 17:10, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 09:07, Marius wrote:
>>>
>>> The hyphenation patterns for lithuanian language are missing. So, how
>>> does one add a new language and hyphenation patterns for ConTeXt?
>>
>> In scripts/context/lua/mtx-patterns.lua Hans needs to add
>>
>> { "la", "hyph-la.tex", "latin" },
>> [after this line]
>> { "lt", "hyph-lt.tex", "lithuanian" },
>> { "lv", "hyph-lv.tex", "latvian" },
>>
>> and regenerate the patterns (and double-checking that nothing broke in
>> the meantime). [You can also take hyph-lt.tex and copy it to
>> tex/context/patterns/lang-lt.pat as a temporary solution.]
>
> ok, generated, will be next beta, untested and unchecked of course
Thanks a lot.
>> Apart from that you need to submit translation for your language (see
>> lang-ger.tex and lang-bal.tex), or at least that would be very nice.
>> Some settings there are necessary if you want to enable the extra
>> patterns. There are some more things to be done, but you may start by
>> translating the strings and filling other holes in lang-bal.tex.
>
> patterns indeed won't work until we have an entry in lang0-.tex for
> lithuanian
But this needs to be done by Marius (or someone else). Before anyone
asks: l7x that needs to be used by Lithuanian in MKII is not supported
in ConTeXt yet, so maybe the sensible setting in lang-bal.tex would
be:
\installlanguage
[\s!lt]
[...
\s!mapping=, % the correct setting is l7x for both
\s!encoding=]
if that means that the patterns will be loaded in xetex/luatex and not
in pdftex at all. Alternatively we could add support. Latin Modern and
TeX Gyre both support it (added in 2007 to LM and fixed in 2009 for
TG; I thought that l7x was missing in most fonts).
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] new language and hyphenation
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 09:07, Marius wrote:
>
> The hyphenation patterns for lithuanian language are missing. So, how
> does one add a new language and hyphenation patterns for ConTeXt?
In scripts/context/lua/mtx-patterns.lua Hans needs to add
{ "la", "hyph-la.tex","latin" },
[after this line]
{ "lt", "hyph-lt.tex","lithuanian" },
{ "lv", "hyph-lv.tex","latvian" },
and regenerate the patterns (and double-checking that nothing broke in
the meantime). [You can also take hyph-lt.tex and copy it to
tex/context/patterns/lang-lt.pat as a temporary solution.]
Apart from that you need to submit translation for your language (see
lang-ger.tex and lang-bal.tex), or at least that would be very nice.
Some settings there are necessary if you want to enable the extra
patterns. There are some more things to be done, but you may start by
translating the strings and filling other holes in lang-bal.tex.
The main question is: do you need them only for MKIV/XeTeX or do you
also want them for MKII? In the latter case you'll have quite some
problems with encoding (that is: missing support for it in fonts).
In MKIV & XeTeX it should be no problem.
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Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:58, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
>
> I'm not sure that I understand the
> problem with ` (GRAVE ACCENT) that cannot be solved with a macro or by a
> setting that disactivates the production of ‘ (LEFT SINGLE QUOTE MARK).
Try to process the following with XeTeX (I would be grateful if anyone
knew how to solve that particular problem; also note that some
hyphenation patterns don't work when ' is replaced by proper quotation
mark):
\font\a="[lmroman10-regular]"
\font\b="[lmroman10-regular]:mapping=tex-text"
\starttext
\a ``abc'' {\buildtextaccent\textgrave a}\par
\b ``abc'' {\buildtextaccent\textgrave a}
\stoptext
You can try to start playing with modifications of
texmf/fonts/misc/xetex/fontmapping/base/tex-text.map.
> I see from LaTeX that: \`{} is a grave accent
> works, as does: \`\ is a grave accent
> but not: {\`} is a grave accent
> or: \` is a grave accent
This is true for (pdf)latex. Have you tried the same with XeLaTeX
using any Unicode font (not the default cmr)? I wanted to try it out,
but I don't know how to do it.
Side note: This is unrelated to the problem that I have mentioned.
What you are quoting is a matter of "input handling". The problem we
want to solve has to do with "font handling".
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Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 21:10, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
>
> I think that the easiest would be for everyone to use English :)
> That's my bit for Imperialism!
But then there would be plenty of historians trying to reproduce the
"old languages", just as Idris does. So nothing would be gained :) :)
:)
> As I write in a mixture of languages, I like to use \quotation{}.
> But long-time TeX users have habits that die hard,
(Let them continue use TeX then :) :) :)
But seriously - there are lots of other incompatibilities.
> and just as we expect fl to yield fl, we also learn many "bad" tricks
> such as ``'' and ...
No, you won't get that ligature if your font doesn't support it and
most people do not notice that ligatures exist at all (including me,
even after using LaTeX for several years).
Yes - it is a trick on the same level, but that trick needs to be
implemented in font. ConTeXt will never try to replace that with a
ligature if your font won't ask for that (and there's a way to turn
ligatures off completely in mkiv/xetex).
You can also "easily" create a font that will do the replacement of
backtick with single quotation mark for you. The main difference is
that 99.9% fonts in the wild don't have that replacement built in,
while most high-quality fonts do have some ligatures. The replacement
of ` or ' would usually be done by editors (Word), but there is no
standard editor for TeX to do that.
>> - The deciding moment when some of these ugly tricks have been thrown
>> away was when we realized that if you do add those tricks, there is no
>> way to print the grave accent.
>
> How about {\`} (untested)
Apart from the fact that this is a command used for a completely
different purpose, it wouldn't help. The problem is that
transformation is being done on glyph at position 0x60 in font itself.
The only option would be to copy the glyph 0x60 to Private Unicode
Area and then assign \textgrave to point to that obscure slot. But
that's more than ugly.
(See also Aditya's answer about apostrophe.)
> You probably are right to favor \quotation{}, \dots, etc.
> and to go unicode. But is it really necessary and a good idea
> to break with TeX culture? I guess so. What about $ $ (and $$ $$)?
> How about % (\%)? Not to mention &
This is a completely different question. (I do miss $$...$$ to be honest.)
These are active characters. You may do
\catcode\`&=\letter (untested syntax)
or maybe some \nonknuthmode command and you'll get the characted &.
Same is true for % (but yes - you need to forget about comments then).
The meaning of those characters is changed on "the editor level", so
it's extremely easy to change the behaviour.
The hack with `` is on font level. And that's when it's gets really
ugly. There is *no* way to get the original character back without
changing the font itself.
Two exceptions have been left on font level. That is two (harmless)
ligatures: "--" (endash), "---" (emdash) and replacement with
apostrophe as in "I'm". The last one is still very very ugly, but I
think it's mission impossible to convince anyone to "change the habit"
of using the proper apostrophe instead of '.
>> I have no idea which keyboard you use, but US International is pretty
>> rich (the problem is lack of some legend on keyboard itself), on the
>> other hand it's easy enough to make your own layout.
>
> My own computers are US International. However, I often use other
> computers having different layouts, many of which I cannot change.
> The worst I find are the Macs with French keyboards,
Let's be honest ... any French keyboard ... :)
> as when I use them,
> I always have to remember how to find \ and {}
I admit that I neither remember where to find the letter A on French
keyboard nor the same characters on Slovenian keyboard ... But wait!
So you are complaining that you don't find quotation marks when
already \ and {} cause you problems?
> The bottom line is that we need to document these differences
> towards the very beginning of the manual, where ConTeXt is
> identified as a form of TeX.
I agree with that ... but there's a general "problem" with
(unmaintaned) documentation in ConTeXt.
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Re: [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.
Let me be a bit more "nationalistic" and exaggerate a bit for a moment
(just in order to explain why I find the idea of using `` a bad one;
do not take the text below too seriously or personally):
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 14:15, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> On Monday 18 January 2010 13:50:25 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> views63 wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm using `` complex analysis'' the output is wrong.
>>
>> Not really. We (Hans and I) would say that it is now finally right. ;)
>
> This is true of many standard TeX ligatures (is this the right word here?)
> such as ... (\ldots, \dots also works), << (\og), >> (\fg), "` (\glqq),
> "' (\grqq), ~ (unbreakable space), etc.
>
> This can be a bit disturbing for experienced TeX users.
- I agree. 80% of Slovenian (La)TeX users use US quotation marks just
because they have read some TeX tutorial about how to use `` and ''.
- Knuth only thought of English quotation marks when implementing the
ugly trick. There is no simple way for "opening quotation marks" („)
for Slovenian/German and most probably for quite some other languages
as well. So ``'' notation is useless for a big fraction of users
anyway. (The only alternative is probably \glqq & friends. You can use
a similar one in ConTeXt as well, but I tend to forget exact names.)
- On Slovenian keyboard it's pretty complicated to type `. Let's take
Mac (but it's equally complicated on Windows). One needs to press
Alt+<+space. This means 2x3=6 strokes to get the character “ typeset.
The character “ itself only takes a single stroke on Mac/Slo. On
Mac/US Int. it's just Alt+[ (2 keystrokes) to get it, so not that bad
either.
- When using \quotation{} it's easy to change the mind about what
quotation marks to use (Slovenian/German use two different sets) and
the proper layout will be used based on the language being used (comes
handy when mixing languages inside the document). Which is great - no
need to think which one to use.
- The deciding moment when some of these ugly tricks have been thrown
away was when we realized that if you do add those tricks, there is no
way to print the grave accent. (Grave accent will be automatically
converted to the same "comma" that you get in quotation marks.) In
good old TeX the grave accent (`) and the character that you get when
you type ` are at two different slots. In Unicode-encoded fonts that's
not doable. This means that if one wants to enable the `` trick then
there's no way to allow composite characters with grave accent or the
character ` in typewriter font. In most cases that is not a problem
since Unicode fonts usually support a wide range of characters, but I
already had to use a character not present in Unicode. And that was
not doable until the hack has been removed.
In the good old days the ugly tricks have been there mostly in order
to compensate for lack of Unicode & accents on keyboards. Nowadays the
limitation of encodings has (almost) gone.
You can easily change the behaviour of ConTeXt by modifying font
features if you insist in using ``''.
> OK, \quotation{} is cleaner and of course using unicode
> characters may be even more readable, sometimes.
>
> I have very mixed feelings, as I know how to type ...
> but I never can recall the keyboard gymnastics necessary
> to get this in unicode.
That's why I always use \quotation{}.
> (Things are even worse on a Mac, as the standard keyboard
> layout is missing lots of important characters.)
I have no idea which keyboard you use, but US International is pretty
rich (the problem is lack of some legend on keyboard itself), on the
other hand it's easy enough to make your own layout.
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Re: [NTG-context] location of /user/files?
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 18:54, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 19-1-2010 18:40, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> The texmf.cnf files now includes >> TEXMFHOME = $HOME/texmf >> but maybe we could add $HOME/Library/texmf to the list as well. Any >> objections to that? (I just need to figure out how to properly nest >> the braces.) > > only mac i assume True, but it should be harmless if the folder doesn't exist on some other OS. > i wonder what happens if someone has another tex installed then TeX is supposed to be installed somewhere else (by default), not in $HOME/texmf. People who do have those folders present usually know what they are doing. Not all of them, but some random newbie would not create a folder there. > so maybe > make it an option somehow .. of just considere it not-done for > the minimals There have been several complaints about missing TEXMFHOME and no complaints about its presence since the time when we have added it (must be a few months at least). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] location of /user/files?
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 00:54, paul morgan wrote: > Thank you again Aditya and Khaled for getting ConTeXt working here. One more > question for the list: > Under MacTex or TexLive, not sure which one, on my 10.4.11 system, my setup > and env* files were located in ~/Library/texmf/tex/context/user/ I rsynced > that dir to ~/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user I'm not trying to answer your question, but that is a bad idea since your files will get overwritten the first time when you synchronize with --delete (which might even be the default switch). You should better put your files to ~/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/user The texmf.cnf files now includes TEXMFHOME = $HOME/texmf but maybe we could add $HOME/Library/texmf to the list as well. Any objections to that? (I just need to figure out how to properly nest the braces.) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Putting chord names above the lyrics
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 03:48, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> Hello,
>
> How to put chord names above the lyrics? I have the following in mind
>
> \starttext
> \setupinterlinespace[big]
> \startlines
> \chord[C6]Pardon me, boy
>
> Is that the Chattanooga choo choo?
>
> Track twenty-nin\chord[Gadd9/D]e
> Boy, you can gimme a sh\chord[C6]ine
I'm just copy-pasting some of old songs. (written LaTeX):
The following LaTeX code worked perfectly:
\def\Ch#1{%
\makebox[0pt][l]{%
\raisebox{0.4\baselineskip}{\bf #1}%
}}
\setlength{\baselineskip}{1.8\baselineskip}}
\Ch{E}Cvet dišeč z \Ch{H7}jutrom se od\Ch{cis}pre, \par
\Ch{A}sonce od\Ch{E}pira o\Ch{H}či. \par
\Ch{E}Polje z vetrom v \Ch{H7}plesu ziblje \Ch{cis}se. \par
Gos\Ch{E}pod, pov\Ch{H}sod vidim \Ch{E}Te. \par}
In ConTeXt an approximately the same, but unoptimized solution could be
\def\Ch#1{%
\strut\hbox to 0pt{\raisebox{0.8\baselineskip}\hbox{\bf#1}\hss}}
\setupwhitespace[big]
and then the same lyrics.
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Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and XeTeX
2010/1/11 Vedran Miletić: > Hi, > > I'm a new user of ConTeXt and minimals distribution and first I would > like to say to thank everyone involved in it. Like most LaTeX users, I > found something that was very hard to do in LaTeX to be fairly trivial > in ConTeXt, and gave it a shot. > > Nevertheless, there is an issue with missing files that might be > relevant and worth noting here. When compiling with --xtx, texexec (or > xdvipdfmx) warns about missing dvipdfmx.cfg (that should, according to > TeX Live structure, be in texmf/dvipdfmx/dvipdfmx.cfg), and once you > manually add that, about missing cid-x.map > (texmf/fonts/map/dvipdfmx/cid-x.map). After adding both files, there > are no more complains. > > Can those files be added to minimals distribution? I can add two empty files if that will make people happier. It's a useless warning that makes no difference for ConTeXt. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] TeX Gyre and (no) Cyrillic
Dear Cyrillic users, this is just to let you know (in particular Vyatcheslav) that minimals still contain an outdated version of TeX Gyre fonts. Below you can read part of font development history. Simply put: Cyrillic support has been removed a few months ago (I didn't follow closely and didn't notice that right away). We might keep a zip with the old font files somewhere, but support for Cyrillic will be gone by default. Someone would need to take over the development of Cyrillic glyphs if they were to be supported. And someone needs to fix the wiki page. Please do not blame me - we cannot do anything but follow what the Polish have decided. If anyone disagrees, you are welcome to form a team to work on those glyphs. Ver 2.003: 16.09.2009 * this is the first official release of the TeX Gyre Termes fonts since June 22, 2009, when URW++, represented by Dr. Peter Rosenfeld, its Managing Director, kindly agreed to release the original 35 base PostScript fonts as shipped with Ghostscript ver. 4.00 under the LPPL (LaTeX Project Public License). This should be understood so that the 35 base Postscript fonts may be used and developed either under the LPPL or one of the GPL (GNU Public Licence) or AFPL (Aladdin Free Public Licence). The latter were put in force with the initial release of the base fonts with Ghostscript ver. 4.00 in 1996. Hereby we thank Dr. Rosenfeld. The TeX Gyre fonts are being develped from the Ghostscript ver. 4.00 base. For reasons explained elsewhere, we prefer to provide our work under the GUST Font Licence (GFL) which is legally equivallent to the LPPL. However, since 1996 the 35 PostScript base fonts were enhanced under the GNU Public License with Vietnamese glyphs by Han The Thanh and Cyrillic glyphs by Valek Filippov. Han The Thanh kindly permitted his additions to be retained under under GFL/LPPL in this and future TeX Gyre fonts releases. Unfortunately, we were unable to receive a similar permission from Valek Filippov for his Cyrillic glyphs, thus there are no Cyrillic glyphs in any of the TeX Gyre fonts. * with the removal of the Cyrillic glyphs all t2a-*.tfm, t2b-*.tfm t2c-*.tfm files and the relevant LaTeX *.fd files were also removed. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Integrating ConTeXt into TL2009
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 08:43, Vladimir Lomov wrote: > Hi. > > I'm newbie with ConTeXt. > > I followed instruction from contextgarden.net and integrated ConTeXt > current into TL2009 (instruction talked about TL2008) > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV > > but that didn't work (simple example found on > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Russian > > gives not russian letters). > > Then I setup ConTeXt minimals following instruction on page > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals > > and that installation works fine on the same example. > > So my question: is a way to intergrate ConTeXt (current or the same as > ConTeXt minimals provides) into TL2009 (distributed by tug)? It might help to see the log of your run. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using ConTeXt for a thesis?
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 22:10, Manuel P. wrote: > > My requirements are quite easy: something unobtrusive that enable me to > focus on the content and obtain a nice and consistent look with a virtually > flat leaning curve (I don't mind a bit of learning, but I can't spend days > on that). Some pictures, some tables, mainly text. Footnotes, bibliography, > quotes and easy personalization of footers and headers. Despite the fact that you can get your questions answered here, it still makes sense to read (or at least skim through) the two manuals (CONTEXT, an excursion and cont-eni.pdf from http://www.pragma-ade.com/overview.htm). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ppctex + pstricks on texlive2009
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 17:18, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Patrice Mégret wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have installed texlive2009 in place of texlive2007 and I can no longer
>> compile programmes combining pstricks and ppchtex.
>>
>> The following example gives me an error (it is still working on
>> texlive2007 on another pc)
>>
>> \documentclass{article}
>> \usepackage{pstricks}
>> \usepackage[pstricks]{m-ch-en}
>>
>> \listfiles
>> \begin{document}
>> \chemical{O_2}
>> \startchemical
>> \chemical[SIX,B1..6,R1..6,RZ1..3][CH_3,CH_3,OH]
>> \stopchemical
>> \end{document}
>
> can you check if the latest context distribution fixes this?
It seems to work with ConTeXt 2009.12.01 17:09.
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Re: [NTG-context] Minimals Setup witout rsync?
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:49, Johannes Graumann wrote: > Timestamp: > 2009-05-11 13:30 > Ouch. > > Can that be synchronized with the rsync-able repository? You got some extra instructions (maybe I need to mention them in some installation notes), but another mirror should be http://minimals.contextgarden.net/pragma/ (but I don't update it too often either unless the need arises). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] problem with texmf-local on Vista
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 16:04, Christopher G D Tipper wrote:
> OK, that fixes it (except I prefer tex/context/user/mine). I have been using
> tex/sources for over a decade though.
It depends on settings of TeX distribution.
You can change that in texmf.cnf:
(TeX Live:)
TEXINPUTS.context = .;$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain,generic,}//
(Minimals:)
TEXINPUTS.context =
.;{$TXRESOURCES}//;{$CTXDEVTXPATH};$TEXMF/tex/{context,plain/base,generic}//
You can overwrite just that variable in your local tree.
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Re: [NTG-context] Minimals Setup witout rsync?
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 14:27, Johannes Graumann wrote: > Hi, > > How would one install the minimals when sitting behind a restrictive > firewall not allowing rsyncing with the outside world? I forgot the details, but could probably find it out again. It should be possible to use ssh tunnelling. There is also http://minimals.contextgarden.net/pragma/ but it's not updated too frequently (if there would be a demand, we could update them more frequently). But you need to fetch the whole tree each time when you want to update. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] problem with texmf-local on Vista
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 18:53, Christopher G D Tipper wrote: > So following your instructions I get: > > C:\Users\Christopher>kpsewhich -progname=texexec basic-template > c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/sources/user/basic-template.tex Does it help if you move the file to c:/Users/Christopher/Library/texmf/tex/context/third/mine/basic-template.tex The important thing might be to put it under tex/context/[whatever]. The location tex/[whatever] won't work in general. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] problem with texmf-local on Vista
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 15:23, Christopher G D Tipper wrote: > Hi Mojca, > > We are talking about a problem with texexec.bat, > and I have a feeling that texexec.exe may behave differently, once I can > execute it. Unlikely. I just wanted to say that texexec.exe itself is also working (if I copy Taco's mtxrun.exe to texexec.exe). > Yes, I forgot to mention that I copied all files to the Desktop (including > the tfm and the typescript) and got the same error with texexec.bat. If you copied all the files to desktop (including map and enc files and removing the directory structure) and tried to compile a tex file on desktop ...it could be that there's something wrong with either files or ConTeXt, not necessary with wrong tree structure. I highly suspect a problem with same map file (missing, failed to load or corrupted). The tfm file itself is not enough. You also need to load a map file that has the line with that font included (unless it's a mf fonts). > Also I last had Context working on this PC in May, and the file compiled > fine. However, I removed MikTeX 2.7 shortly after that (which was broken) > and have been unable to use Context since. Not a problem, as I have a > working setup on my Mac, but there is very little reason to upgrade the Mac, > as everything I need currently works. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] latest beta and file mismatch problem
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 13:07, Bowen Alan C. wrote: > > So I removed texmf-osx-intel from /ConTeXtMinimals/tex/. re-ran texexec > --make --all. The error message is now > texexec: Command not found. > > which texexec > /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/texexec This calls for a half-a-box-beer challenge. Here's a deal (the thread has grown long already): if you send a screenshot of both commands being run one after another (plus a documentary video to prove you didn't do anything weird behind the scenes) you win. Else you pay for beer during the next meeting or BachoTeX. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] problem with texmf-local on Vista
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 15:23, Christopher G D Tipper wrote: > Hi Mojca, > > I recommend we wait until the issue with executables referenced in my > previous post is resolved. We are talking about a problem with texexec.bat, > and I have a feeling that texexec.exe may behave differently, once I can > execute it. (Tell Hans to test it on Vista, as he seemed to jump to the > conclusion that I was using XP). Hans works on Vista. I tested Taco's executables on Windows 7 and they seem to work ok, but I can confirm that what's currently in distribution is broken on windows. (Which means that Hans either needs to take Taco's executables or completely remove them from distribution and I'll add them in minimals separately.) But then again ... I forgot to test texexec.exe, luatools.exe and mtxrun.exe run just fine. (2GB of ram hardly suffices to run windows inside VM since OSX with Safari alone takes it all, but I'll try to test again later.) I could use ugly patches now to remove the broken executables and replace them with newer ones, but I hope that Hans will fix that issue soon enough. > However, my setups have been transferred directly from my iMac, and the test > document compiles using gwTeX and an 18-month old version of Context. 18 months most probably refers to TeX Live 2007 ... the fonts should still work, but anything is possible. There are two easy things to check if the tree is guilty: - either copy everything to current directory - or copy everything to texmf-context and run mktexlrs If it starts working then you may judge the tree structure, else it must be some other problem. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] latest beta and file mismatch problem
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:59, Bowen Alan C. wrote: > Mojca— > > texmf-osx-intel reappears when the minimals are updated If sysctl -n hw.cpu64bit_capable returns you 1 then it's quite possible that you are still using the old version of first-setup.sh. > removing status-of-update.lua did not make a difference (I am using MKII). > > I have not installed TeXLive. Sorry, I was misinterpreting the "pdfTeX 1.40" string and though it was reading "LuaTeX beta-0.40". Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] latest beta and file mismatch problem
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:49, Bowen Alan C. wrote: > Thanks, Mojca. > With .bash_profile now reading . > /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex, I ran texexec --make --all > successfully. But I still could not process a .tex file: the error message > was > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 2009) > \write18 enabled. > (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx) > kpathsea: Running mktexfmt cont-en.fmt > mktexfmt: No such file or directory > I can't find the format file `cont-en.fmt'! > TeXExec | runtime: 0.21928 > So I removed texmf-osx-intel from /ConTeXtMinimals/tex/. re-ran texexec > --make --all. The error message is now > texexec: Command not found. Can you please send the output of: > uname -m > echo $HOSTTYPE > sysctl -n hw.cpu64bit_capable > echo $PATH > ls /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/ > ls -l /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin > which pdftex > which context > which texexec > kpsewhich context.tex Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new beta
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:07, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Hi, > > About those new stubs: can the people that have problems please try > the mtxrun.exe (and dll) from > > http://tex.aanhet.net/temp/mtxrun-bin.zip > > They should go into the binary folder, and if mtxrun works, then the > other executables in the list below can be created by copying > mtxrun.exe to the other names. It seems to work here (depending on the definition of "working" of course, but that's not subject of this thread): This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.46.0-2009112722 (INITEX) ) (C:/Programi/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/core-sys.mkiv loading : ConTeXt Core Macros / System ! LuaTeX error :1: attempt to call field 'updatefilenames' (a nil value) stack traceback: :1: in main chunk. ...filename ","\outputfilename ")} \dosetupsystem ...?sv ][#1]\the \everysetupsystem l.168\c!bodyfont=\normalizedlocalbodyfontsize] % of iets anders ? Mojca Does the change to exe files make any difference in speed? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] problem with texmf-local on Vista
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 23:20, Christopher G D Tipper wrote: > Hi, > > I am a user of Context from the old days, and usually don't need much help > installing the software. However, I am needing to use Contextminimals for > the first time, as Miktex 2.8 has dropped Context support. > > My problem is that I have a lot of my own setups and personal fonts and > Contextminimals seems to have some problem dealing with local setups. I am > using MkII by the way but these problems seem to exist in MkIV also. > > I have a font, Univers, installed to texmf-local with texfont and Context > claims it cannot find the font definitions. > > running texexec I get the following: > > !pdfTeX error: pdftex.exe (file 8r-raw-punr8a): Font 8r-raw-punr8a at 432 > not found > ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced! > TeXExec | runtime: 10.311 Hello Christopher, You may try one thing before starting the struggle with files. Can you try to put all the files that you need in current directory (the one from where you need to compile your document)? If that works then there's indeed a problem with TeX trees. If not, there might even be a problem with files themselves or with typescripts. (It looks like you have used the files before, but an extra check would not hurt.) It could be that some map file is missing or has not been properly generated. TeXfont might be a bit buggy. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] latest beta and file mismatch problem
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 22:09, Bowen Alan C. wrote: > Hi, Otared, > Thanks for the tip. The first problem is that ./first-setup.sh installs both > files texmf-os-x and texmf-osx-intgel. texmf-osx-intel should not be installed at all. What happens if you delete it? Does it appear again? Also try to remove the file status-of-update.lua as Hans suggested. > The second is that I now get > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 2009) > \write18 enabled. > (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx) > kpathsea: Running mktexfmt cont-en.fmt > mktexfmt: No such file or directory > I can't find the format file `cont-en.fmt'! > TeXExec | runtime: 0.10815 It looks like this is using the version from TeX Live. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] latest beta and file mismatch problem
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 17:13, Bowen Alan C. wrote: > Mocja— > I see that I have two texexecs in my Minimals now: > one in > ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin > the other in > ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin > Which one is the right one? The second one. > I should add that when my .bash_profile has > . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex > /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/ > I cannot compile any file because of the mismatch between format and base > files. This is because you need to regenerate the formats (texexec --make --all). Please send the log if this fails to help. > If I change my .bash_profile to > . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex > /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin > as suggested in No, that's not been suggested. You may not use the second argument that way. If you read carefully again you'll see that there are **two different recipes**. You need to use just one of them. > When you want to use context, you need to initialize the tree by typing: [first recipe] > . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex > in your shell or add [second recipe] > "/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin" > to PATH variable if you want to set it permanently. > This can usually be done in .bashrc, .bash_profile > (or whatever file is used to initialize your shell). > I get the error message > The argument "/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin" is not a > valid TEXROOT path. > (There is no file > "/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/texmf/tex/plain/base/plain.tex") Yes, that makes sense. Since /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin is NOT the root of distribution. That's just the PATH to your binaries. Just go with the first approach (the one that reports mismatching formats at the moment), run texexec --make --all and send the log if it fails to work. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] path juggling in mtxrun or my bad carma again?
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 16:32, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >> >> ~/bin:/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/texbin:/usr/X11/bin > > Is the "~" in your PATH a literal "~"? mtxrun might have problems with that, > it's always better to use the full path to your home directory. Hmmm ... export PATH="~/bin:/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:$PATH" I have no idea who inserted the quotation marks here (and why). If I remove the quotation marks then it works without a problem. But I have never noticed that because it has always worked when executed from bash. Thanks a lot, Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
