Re: Looking for appliance: proxy, web filter, antivirus
Not exactly an appliance, but it might fit the bill: Check out http://www.clarkconnect.com. This Linux distro is being used by our school with great success. It has all the features you're asking for, and price for the content filtering updates is extremely reasonable. I put this on a 8 core Xeon with plenty of ram and some fast harddrives, and it's providing excellent web browsing performance for our 1000 computer LAN. Others to check out: www.astaro.com - They do the linux distro thing too, but also have actual appliances. www.barracudanetworks.com - We love Barracuda's spam firewall, and they have a web filter as well. Worth looking into. www.sonicwall.com - Before our school was using ClarkConnect, we were using a sonicwall for our firewall and filter. I know there are some people on this list who love these products, and we liked ours too... but the clarkconnect solution saved us money on yearly support agreements, and sonicwall's customer service was lacking. (Hopefully things have changed for the better in that department.) www.smoothwall.net - I've used their open source firewall before (www.smoothwall.org), and this is a well built product. The cooperate version has the features you need, and they even have an appliance. www.stbernard.com/iprism - A more expensive content filter, but also billed as one of the best... I haven't actually seen one of these in action, but when I ask about content filters, this appliance keeps coming up to the top of the radar. www.watchguard.com - I have vendors pushing me to try this companies Firebox line, looked like a decent solution at the time. Hope the info helps. --Matt Ross _ From: Osama Salah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:26:13 -0800 Subject: Looking for appliance: proxy, web filter, antivirus Hi all, we've been running an ISA server with Websense and AVAST AV for quite some time now for a total of 1000 users. Websense is becoming rather expensive (per user pricing) and I'm not too happy of the malware protection offered by AVAST. And I don't really care if the websense database is the best in the world. A half way decent web filter is more than we need. We are looking for a replacement, possibly an appliance that doesn't cost a fortune. I had a look at BlueCoat but that looks like it will be expensive. Fortinet and Bloxx seems to be fitting the requirements. What else is outthere? rgds Osama S. _ Disclaimer:This communication contains information that is confidential and may also be legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient,disclosure, copying, distribution or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this communication or the information in it is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender by return email, delete it from your system and destroy any copies. _ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: RPC over HTTPS
Alternatively, implement RMS or similar to protect the actual messages, rather trying to arbitrate the machines that connect. Cheers Ken From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 4:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RPC over HTTPS Of course you can control this. IAG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RPC over HTTPS It is a valid concern, and no - I'm not aware of any way to prevent it on a machine-by-machine basis. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RPC over HTTPS We are getting ready to roll out RPC over HTTPS for email. For quite awhile we have had most of our users internal to the company and have just used the Outlook client to access Exchange natively. As we have brought remote offices online the VPN tunnels enabled similar access. Then we had a few roaming users that we gave VPN access to for their email. And of course everyone has OWA for access from home, and ActiveSync for access from their mobile devices. There is one overwhelming concern we have with enabling RPC over HTTPS though, and I am wondering if anyone has any commentary on this, or suggestions. By allowing RPC over HTTPS we are enabling our staff to download all of their company email on a machine which may or may not be within our control. Sure, with OWA they can access their email from home and selectively grab a message here and there, but with RPC over HTTPS they can grab an entire mailbox and do whatever they want with it. This is definitely one of those areas that could come back to haunt us later. For the short term we would only set it up on company laptops of course, however there is nothing stopping someone from copying those settings to their own personal machine. Or is there? Is there any solution that can be implemented so we control which computers can access our Exchange over RPC? Thanks, Jeff ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
NAS/Print Server
I have a SOHO that needs a very low end file and print server. I seem to remember a couple of years ago seeing something by Linksys or Netgear or DLink that would fit the bill for this office perfectly. It was sub $200 allowed for network access to a USB drive and USB/Parallel printers. I have been on the CDW site and the only thing I see like it now is from IOGear their model GMFPSU22W6. Am I crazy or has the others been pulled from sales? Thanks for any ideas Jon ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: NAS/Print Server
Jon, Head over to newegg.com they got everything Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NAS/Print Server I have a SOHO that needs a very low end file and print server. I seem to remember a couple of years ago seeing something by Linksys or Netgear or DLink that would fit the bill for this office perfectly. It was sub $200 allowed for network access to a USB drive and USB/Parallel printers. I have been on the CDW site and the only thing I see like it now is from IOGear their model GMFPSU22W6. Am I crazy or has the others been pulled from sales? Thanks for any ideas Jon ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: RPC over HTTPS
Dr. Tom, How is IAG licensed, is it part of ISA 2006 natively or what? Thanks, Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RPC over HTTPS Of course you can control this. IAG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RPC over HTTPS It is a valid concern, and no - I'm not aware of any way to prevent it on a machine-by-machine basis. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RPC over HTTPS We are getting ready to roll out RPC over HTTPS for email. For quite awhile we have had most of our users internal to the company and have just used the Outlook client to access Exchange natively. As we have brought remote offices online the VPN tunnels enabled similar access. Then we had a few roaming users that we gave VPN access to for their email. And of course everyone has OWA for access from home, and ActiveSync for access from their mobile devices. There is one overwhelming concern we have with enabling RPC over HTTPS though, and I am wondering if anyone has any commentary on this, or suggestions. By allowing RPC over HTTPS we are enabling our staff to download all of their company email on a machine which may or may not be within our control. Sure, with OWA they can access their email from home and selectively grab a message here and there, but with RPC over HTTPS they can grab an entire mailbox and do whatever they want with it. This is definitely one of those areas that could come back to haunt us later. For the short term we would only set it up on company laptops of course, however there is nothing stopping someone from copying those settings to their own personal machine. Or is there? Is there any solution that can be implemented so we control which computers can access our Exchange over RPC? Thanks, Jeff ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: NAS/Print Server
I knew I was not crazy! Thanks Andy found something very quick that just fits the bill I think. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 7:13 AM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon, Head over to newegg.com they got everything…. Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook -- *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:19 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* NAS/Print Server I have a SOHO that needs a very low end file and print server. I seem to remember a couple of years ago seeing something by Linksys or Netgear or DLink that would fit the bill for this office perfectly. It was sub $200 allowed for network access to a USB drive and USB/Parallel printers. I have been on the CDW site and the only thing I see like it now is from IOGear their model GMFPSU22W6. Am I crazy or has the others been pulled from sales? Thanks for any ideas Jon ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
I can see where you are coming from, I find myself at this familiar cross-roads. It seems that re-certification is necessary evil now, but probably going the SSCP/CISSP ISC2 route because its vendor/neutral and it really peaks my interest, and never gets boring. Plus it doesn't pigeonhole me into supporting one OS over another or one technology over another. But honestly, experience is the best teacher. How many times I have sat in a class, and you knew the professor didn't have much real-world experience, and basically was teaching you the theory of how things are supposed to go, which we both know doesn't always work out to what it really does, when you get down to it. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? The time to study + the time to commit to hands on related work that may intefere with studying for a masters/phd.. I've thought about pursuing one or the other but the current work load just allow time. Of course there's also part-time and/or online schooling as an option. I'd say it could depend on just how much you're looking to get out of the classes and whether you function better in a classroom or working from home. Having the 2000/2003 MS certs I'm now having to consider tackling the 2008 certs or make the jump to another industry platform like Cisco. Talk about wanting to pull the covers back over my head! At this stage in my life I've come to the conclusion that I won't become rich or wealthy working in this field unless I stumble across a nice patent. I believe in the glass ceiling and that you can max out if you're not constantly working to stay educated in some capacity. My fear is the same I had when I was in college and that was that my real world experiences were educating me a lot better than the classroom subject matter. So I figure to work towards building some type of residual income, start another venture, build, start etc. At that point I'd be paying for classes or subject matter that's gonna help to keep the cycle going. If I make it back to school it'll be because I'd have the time and flexibility. (nothing like dreaming) On 2/6/08, Jim Majorowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It depends on where you see yourself in 5 to 10 years. Personally, I'd go for the MBA if I had the time, even though I'd never use it. From: Phil Guevara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Certs + Experience + which degree? I was wondering what everyone's opinion is on this. Let's say you have your MCSE cert or other industry standard cert and over 5 years solid experience, but no degree. Which degree would be best to compliment this? CIS degree, Computer Science Degree, Business Degree, other? I noticed the CS program deals more with programming and not really the stuff a systems administrator would do. A CIS degree might be aligned with it but wouldn't that just be redundant to the MCSE and experience? Would a Business degree show you as a well rounded person? Best Regards, Phil ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: NAS/Print Server
Nope, almost the same choices I already went through at CDW. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 7:31 AM, Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I knew I was not crazy! Thanks Andy found something very quick that just fits the bill I think. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 7:13 AM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon, Head over to newegg.com they got everything…. Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook -- *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:19 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* NAS/Print Server I have a SOHO that needs a very low end file and print server. I seem to remember a couple of years ago seeing something by Linksys or Netgear or DLink that would fit the bill for this office perfectly. It was sub $200 allowed for network access to a USB drive and USB/Parallel printers. I have been on the CDW site and the only thing I see like it now is from IOGear their model GMFPSU22W6. Am I crazy or has the others been pulled from sales? Thanks for any ideas Jon ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
I hear what you're saying, but when most employers want to hire people with a degree, they don't care when that degree was earned. There are very few jobs where it matters whether the degree was earned a month ago or a decade ago-all that matters is that the degree was earned. If I had to choose, I'd rather have a ten-year-old college degree than a ten-year-old certification. Of course, in a perfect world, one would have both degrees and up-to-date certs. John From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? Hey John, I am in a similar situation as you however I disagree with your statement that degrees are forever. An AA or Bachelors Degree only shows you have invested more time in yourself to gain insight into a specific field of study and/or proves you have a higher level of education in the basics such as English, Math etc. A degree is basically the same as any certification. It only shows you have invested more time in getting to know the basics of a specific field of study. Even Professors have to continue their studies as new discoveries are made to keep up with the changing times. My 2 (Uneducated) Cents, Tom From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I've got a young woman (early 20's) working for me as a PC technician. The position requires A+ and Network+ certifications, which she has. She was commenting earlier this week that very little of what she learned in the certification process has helped her out in the field. The things you come across in the real world just can't be duplicate in books. That's not to say that certification is useless, but we all know that certs alone aren't worth much. I've got over 10 years of experience, and the only certs I have are A+, Net+, and I-Net+. When I found myself with time to study, I didn't go for more certs-I finished my Bachelor's degree (I had dropped out of college as a junior, having already earned my AA). The next step for me is a Master's; I'd rather spend my time and energy on that than certs. Certs have a limited shelf life, but degrees are forever. After the Master's, I may look into additional certs. But that will be a few years. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I can see where you are coming from, I find myself at this familiar cross-roads. It seems that re-certification is necessary evil now, but probably going the SSCP/CISSP ISC2 route because its vendor/neutral and it really peaks my interest, and never gets boring. Plus it doesn't pigeonhole me into supporting one OS over another or one technology over another. But honestly, experience is the best teacher. How many times I have sat in a class, and you knew the professor didn't have much real-world experience, and basically was teaching you the theory of how things are supposed to go, which we both know doesn't always work out to what it really does, when you get down to it. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? The time to study + the time to commit to hands on related work that may intefere with studying for a masters/phd.. I've thought about pursuing one or the other but the current work load just allow time. Of course there's also part-time and/or online schooling as an option. I'd say it could depend on just how much you're looking to get out of the classes and whether you function better in a classroom or working from home. Having the 2000/2003 MS certs I'm now having to consider tackling the 2008 certs or make the jump to another industry platform like Cisco. Talk about wanting to pull the covers back over my head! At this stage in my life I've come to the conclusion that I won't become rich or wealthy working in this field unless I stumble across a nice patent. I believe in the glass ceiling and that you can max out if you're not constantly working to stay educated in some capacity. My fear is the same I had when I was in college and that was that my real world experiences were educating me a lot better than the classroom subject matter. So I figure to work towards building some type of residual income, start another venture, build, start etc. At that point I'd be paying
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
I'll one up you, Z. My undergrad is in music (Percussion). Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? Good view of it. Looking at Masters in IT/Information Science also, but borrowing like 40-60K at 8% just to get through the course, and taking Graduate Placement Exams ( MCAT? MCAP) doesn't thrill me either. I got enough real-world experience, to breeze through possibly ¼ to ½ the cirrcumlum for the MSIT degree ( CISSP at most accredited colleges will count for about 12-15 credits towards the Masters, which helps get the degree quicker) True: Running the certification rat-race does get boring after a while, but in IT its basically the Icing on the cake in my eyes, doing the jobs, getting the experience is really what it comes down to. And hell my undergrad was in Mechnical Engineering, wish they had the IT Degrees back in my day in college, all they had was CIS ( Coding, which I loathe) Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I've got a young woman (early 20's) working for me as a PC technician. The position requires A+ and Network+ certifications, which she has. She was commenting earlier this week that very little of what she learned in the certification process has helped her out in the field. The things you come across in the real world just can't be duplicate in books. That's not to say that certification is useless, but we all know that certs alone aren't worth much. I've got over 10 years of experience, and the only certs I have are A+, Net+, and I-Net+. When I found myself with time to study, I didn't go for more certs-I finished my Bachelor's degree (I had dropped out of college as a junior, having already earned my AA). The next step for me is a Master's; I'd rather spend my time and energy on that than certs. Certs have a limited shelf life, but degrees are forever. After the Master's, I may look into additional certs. But that will be a few years. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I can see where you are coming from, I find myself at this familiar cross-roads. It seems that re-certification is necessary evil now, but probably going the SSCP/CISSP ISC2 route because its vendor/neutral and it really peaks my interest, and never gets boring. Plus it doesn't pigeonhole me into supporting one OS over another or one technology over another. But honestly, experience is the best teacher. How many times I have sat in a class, and you knew the professor didn't have much real-world experience, and basically was teaching you the theory of how things are supposed to go, which we both know doesn't always work out to what it really does, when you get down to it. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? The time to study + the time to commit to hands on related work that may intefere with studying for a masters/phd.. I've thought about pursuing one or the other but the current work load just allow time. Of course there's also part-time and/or online schooling as an option. I'd say it could depend on just how much you're looking to get out of the classes and whether you function better in a classroom or working from home. Having the 2000/2003 MS certs I'm now having to consider tackling the 2008 certs or make the jump to another industry platform like Cisco. Talk about wanting to pull the covers back over my head! At this stage in my life I've come to the conclusion that I won't become rich or wealthy working in this field unless I stumble across a nice patent. I believe in the glass ceiling and that you can max out if you're not constantly working to stay educated in some capacity. My fear is the same I had when I was in college and that was that my real world experiences were educating me a lot better than the classroom subject matter. So I figure to work towards building some type of residual income, start another venture, build, start etc. At that point I'd be paying for classes or
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
Good view of it. Looking at Masters in IT/Information Science also, but borrowing like 40-60K at 8% just to get through the course, and taking Graduate Placement Exams ( MCAT? MCAP) doesn't thrill me either. I got enough real-world experience, to breeze through possibly ¼ to ½ the cirrcumlum for the MSIT degree ( CISSP at most accredited colleges will count for about 12-15 credits towards the Masters, which helps get the degree quicker) True: Running the certification rat-race does get boring after a while, but in IT its basically the Icing on the cake in my eyes, doing the jobs, getting the experience is really what it comes down to. And hell my undergrad was in Mechnical Engineering, wish they had the IT Degrees back in my day in college, all they had was CIS ( Coding, which I loathe) Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I've got a young woman (early 20's) working for me as a PC technician. The position requires A+ and Network+ certifications, which she has. She was commenting earlier this week that very little of what she learned in the certification process has helped her out in the field. The things you come across in the real world just can't be duplicate in books. That's not to say that certification is useless, but we all know that certs alone aren't worth much. I've got over 10 years of experience, and the only certs I have are A+, Net+, and I-Net+. When I found myself with time to study, I didn't go for more certs-I finished my Bachelor's degree (I had dropped out of college as a junior, having already earned my AA). The next step for me is a Master's; I'd rather spend my time and energy on that than certs. Certs have a limited shelf life, but degrees are forever. After the Master's, I may look into additional certs. But that will be a few years. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I can see where you are coming from, I find myself at this familiar cross-roads. It seems that re-certification is necessary evil now, but probably going the SSCP/CISSP ISC2 route because its vendor/neutral and it really peaks my interest, and never gets boring. Plus it doesn't pigeonhole me into supporting one OS over another or one technology over another. But honestly, experience is the best teacher. How many times I have sat in a class, and you knew the professor didn't have much real-world experience, and basically was teaching you the theory of how things are supposed to go, which we both know doesn't always work out to what it really does, when you get down to it. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? The time to study + the time to commit to hands on related work that may intefere with studying for a masters/phd.. I've thought about pursuing one or the other but the current work load just allow time. Of course there's also part-time and/or online schooling as an option. I'd say it could depend on just how much you're looking to get out of the classes and whether you function better in a classroom or working from home. Having the 2000/2003 MS certs I'm now having to consider tackling the 2008 certs or make the jump to another industry platform like Cisco. Talk about wanting to pull the covers back over my head! At this stage in my life I've come to the conclusion that I won't become rich or wealthy working in this field unless I stumble across a nice patent. I believe in the glass ceiling and that you can max out if you're not constantly working to stay educated in some capacity. My fear is the same I had when I was in college and that was that my real world experiences were educating me a lot better than the classroom subject matter. So I figure to work towards building some type of residual income, start another venture, build, start etc. At that point I'd be paying for classes or subject matter that's gonna help to keep the cycle going. If I make it back to school it'll be because I'd have the time and flexibility. (nothing like dreaming) On 2/6/08, Jim Majorowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It depends on where you see yourself in 5 to 10 years. Personally, I'd go for the MBA if I
RE: NAS/Print Server
Then I would just start hitting the big four's websites. Linksys, Netgear, buffalo, blackstone_is_a_homo.com Andy From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/Print Server Nope, almost the same choices I already went through at CDW. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 7:31 AM, Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I knew I was not crazy! Thanks Andy found something very quick that just fits the bill I think. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 7:13 AM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon, Head over to newegg.com http://newegg.com/ they got everything Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NAS/Print Server I have a SOHO that needs a very low end file and print server. I seem to remember a couple of years ago seeing something by Linksys or Netgear or DLink that would fit the bill for this office perfectly. It was sub $200 allowed for network access to a USB drive and USB/Parallel printers. I have been on the CDW site and the only thing I see like it now is from IOGear their model GMFPSU22W6. Am I crazy or has the others been pulled from sales? Thanks for any ideas Jon ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
I've got a young woman (early 20's) working for me as a PC technician. The position requires A+ and Network+ certifications, which she has. She was commenting earlier this week that very little of what she learned in the certification process has helped her out in the field. The things you come across in the real world just can't be duplicate in books. That's not to say that certification is useless, but we all know that certs alone aren't worth much. I've got over 10 years of experience, and the only certs I have are A+, Net+, and I-Net+. When I found myself with time to study, I didn't go for more certs-I finished my Bachelor's degree (I had dropped out of college as a junior, having already earned my AA). The next step for me is a Master's; I'd rather spend my time and energy on that than certs. Certs have a limited shelf life, but degrees are forever. After the Master's, I may look into additional certs. But that will be a few years. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I can see where you are coming from, I find myself at this familiar cross-roads. It seems that re-certification is necessary evil now, but probably going the SSCP/CISSP ISC2 route because its vendor/neutral and it really peaks my interest, and never gets boring. Plus it doesn't pigeonhole me into supporting one OS over another or one technology over another. But honestly, experience is the best teacher. How many times I have sat in a class, and you knew the professor didn't have much real-world experience, and basically was teaching you the theory of how things are supposed to go, which we both know doesn't always work out to what it really does, when you get down to it. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? The time to study + the time to commit to hands on related work that may intefere with studying for a masters/phd.. I've thought about pursuing one or the other but the current work load just allow time. Of course there's also part-time and/or online schooling as an option. I'd say it could depend on just how much you're looking to get out of the classes and whether you function better in a classroom or working from home. Having the 2000/2003 MS certs I'm now having to consider tackling the 2008 certs or make the jump to another industry platform like Cisco. Talk about wanting to pull the covers back over my head! At this stage in my life I've come to the conclusion that I won't become rich or wealthy working in this field unless I stumble across a nice patent. I believe in the glass ceiling and that you can max out if you're not constantly working to stay educated in some capacity. My fear is the same I had when I was in college and that was that my real world experiences were educating me a lot better than the classroom subject matter. So I figure to work towards building some type of residual income, start another venture, build, start etc. At that point I'd be paying for classes or subject matter that's gonna help to keep the cycle going. If I make it back to school it'll be because I'd have the time and flexibility. (nothing like dreaming) On 2/6/08, Jim Majorowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It depends on where you see yourself in 5 to 10 years. Personally, I'd go for the MBA if I had the time, even though I'd never use it. From: Phil Guevara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Certs + Experience + which degree? I was wondering what everyone's opinion is on this. Let's say you have your MCSE cert or other industry standard cert and over 5 years solid experience, but no degree. Which degree would be best to compliment this? CIS degree, Computer Science Degree, Business Degree, other? I noticed the CS program deals more with programming and not really the stuff a systems administrator would do. A CIS degree might be aligned with it but wouldn't that just be redundant to the MCSE and experience? Would a Business degree show you as a well rounded person? Best Regards, Phil ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: NAS/Print Server
LOL, I will leave the last one to you. I have already looked at Linksys so it looks like I have off to the other 2 today. Thanks for the ideas though, Jon On Feb 7, 2008 8:35 AM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I would just start hitting the big four's websites. Linksys, Netgear, buffalo, blackstone_is_a_homo.com Andy -- *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:48 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: NAS/Print Server Nope, almost the same choices I already went through at CDW. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 7:31 AM, Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I knew I was not crazy! Thanks Andy found something very quick that just fits the bill I think. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 7:13 AM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon, Head over to newegg.com they got everything…. Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook -- *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:19 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* NAS/Print Server I have a SOHO that needs a very low end file and print server. I seem to remember a couple of years ago seeing something by Linksys or Netgear or DLink that would fit the bill for this office perfectly. It was sub $200 allowed for network access to a USB drive and USB/Parallel printers. I have been on the CDW site and the only thing I see like it now is from IOGear their model GMFPSU22W6. Am I crazy or has the others been pulled from sales? Thanks for any ideas Jon ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
Hey John, I am in a similar situation as you however I disagree with your statement that degrees are forever. An AA or Bachelors Degree only shows you have invested more time in yourself to gain insight into a specific field of study and/or proves you have a higher level of education in the basics such as English, Math etc. A degree is basically the same as any certification. It only shows you have invested more time in getting to know the basics of a specific field of study. Even Professors have to continue their studies as new discoveries are made to keep up with the changing times. My 2 (Uneducated) Cents, Tom From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I've got a young woman (early 20's) working for me as a PC technician. The position requires A+ and Network+ certifications, which she has. She was commenting earlier this week that very little of what she learned in the certification process has helped her out in the field. The things you come across in the real world just can't be duplicate in books. That's not to say that certification is useless, but we all know that certs alone aren't worth much. I've got over 10 years of experience, and the only certs I have are A+, Net+, and I-Net+. When I found myself with time to study, I didn't go for more certs-I finished my Bachelor's degree (I had dropped out of college as a junior, having already earned my AA). The next step for me is a Master's; I'd rather spend my time and energy on that than certs. Certs have a limited shelf life, but degrees are forever. After the Master's, I may look into additional certs. But that will be a few years. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I can see where you are coming from, I find myself at this familiar cross-roads. It seems that re-certification is necessary evil now, but probably going the SSCP/CISSP ISC2 route because its vendor/neutral and it really peaks my interest, and never gets boring. Plus it doesn't pigeonhole me into supporting one OS over another or one technology over another. But honestly, experience is the best teacher. How many times I have sat in a class, and you knew the professor didn't have much real-world experience, and basically was teaching you the theory of how things are supposed to go, which we both know doesn't always work out to what it really does, when you get down to it. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? The time to study + the time to commit to hands on related work that may intefere with studying for a masters/phd.. I've thought about pursuing one or the other but the current work load just allow time. Of course there's also part-time and/or online schooling as an option. I'd say it could depend on just how much you're looking to get out of the classes and whether you function better in a classroom or working from home. Having the 2000/2003 MS certs I'm now having to consider tackling the 2008 certs or make the jump to another industry platform like Cisco. Talk about wanting to pull the covers back over my head! At this stage in my life I've come to the conclusion that I won't become rich or wealthy working in this field unless I stumble across a nice patent. I believe in the glass ceiling and that you can max out if you're not constantly working to stay educated in some capacity. My fear is the same I had when I was in college and that was that my real world experiences were educating me a lot better than the classroom subject matter. So I figure to work towards building some type of residual income, start another venture, build, start etc. At that point I'd be paying for classes or subject matter that's gonna help to keep the cycle going. If I make it back to school it'll be because I'd have the time and flexibility. (nothing like dreaming) On 2/6/08, Jim Majorowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It depends on where you see yourself in 5 to 10 years. Personally, I'd go for the MBA if I had the time, even though I'd never use it. From: Phil Guevara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Certs + Experience + which degree? I was wondering what everyone's opinion is on this. Let's say you have your MCSE cert or other industry standard cert and
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
Whole heartily agree, especially on #2. It's not about what you know, its who you know. This is called the good ol' boy system for you non-southern types. Andy From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I think college is about two things. 1. The ability to commit and see something to completion. You obviously take a lot of courses that have little relevancy to your actual career, and Im sure many people have degrees in which is not their career. This is often more so in non traditional degrees 2. The contacts you make in college may help you down the road. There is nothing better, IMO, then having a group of individuals studying, and going into the workforce with similar interests, degrees and backgrounds. Your paths will cross, and the higher up you go, especially in tech, the smaller the group. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
re: OS upgrade
Hasn't worked for me. I had Win2k3STDSP2 server ; followed the link somewhere on Microsoft website, which basically said pop the R2CD2 and launch setup.. It kept flashing message cannot upgrade. Didn't had much time to downgrade the SP level or any further tinkering. Finally went with full install route. Basically whatever defaults mentioned didn't work for me. Thanks, ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
newSID question
Hi, Question related to newSID: I am trying to backup SID and need to understand whether my take on this utility is correct. NewSid from Microsoft has capability to Generate SID or pull SID from other server and apply to new server, but it cannot backup the SID. So, when I launch the newSID utility, it displays current SID: as S-1-5-21-whatever.. Q1 Am I right in assuming that I can simply copy that Current SID from source server i.e. S-1-5-21-xxx string; in a txt file and that will be my SID BAckup?? Q2...And when it comes to applying back I simply can cut and paste that string under Specify SID option of NewSID utility prompts?? Thanks, ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Black blocks appearing on TS connections
Is it all black like the login screen and such? I have seen this a few times and you have to modify the registry in default user for backgrounds and stuff its documented on mskb. _ From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Black blocks appearing on TS connections Hi chaps, We have been hit with a spate of reports of black blocks appearing on users terminal server connections. We have two TS boxes, both the same, both running 2003. The last few days have caused users to see black blocks on the screen, sometimes in place of toolbar icons, sometimes covering entire windows. There doesn't seem to be an pattern, happens on multiple machines, over two servers etc. My worry is that it's going to be down a hardware fault or something. Anyone seen anything like this before? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: NAS/Print Server
Also supports USB printers - It has something like 4 UBS ports, and can monitor a UPS as well, so if the even of a power cut and my UPS running out of power it will gracefully shutdown (and can control other readynas to tell them to shutdown as well - assuming the network stays up in the even if a powercut. Will integrated into AD as well if required, but I am assuming this is not required in this instance. From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2008 16:39 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/Print Server I am looking for a one device does both type of thing. If I go separate items it makes for more support work in the long term for me. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 11:23 AM, Ames Matthew B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: infrant ready nas? I have one at home (4 x 750gb disks) runnins quite nicely for me at home From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2008 11:19 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NAS/Print Server I have a SOHO that needs a very low end file and print server. I seem to remember a couple of years ago seeing something by Linksys or Netgear or DLink that would fit the bill for this office perfectly. It was sub $200 allowed for network access to a USB drive and USB/Parallel printers. I have been on the CDW site and the only thing I see like it now is from IOGear their model GMFPSU22W6. Am I crazy or has the others been pulled from sales? Thanks for any ideas Jon The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233 Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX, United Kingdom http://www.QinetiQ.com/home/legal.html The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233 Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX, United Kingdom http://www.QinetiQ.com/home/legal.html ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Black blocks appearing on TS connections
We have seen this on workstations and its usually attributed to memory. Not physically, but memory allocation. A reboot almost always fixes the issue and it seems to be very sporadic when it was happening. We have not had any reports for quite some time. From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Black blocks appearing on TS connections Hi chaps, We have been hit with a spate of reports of black blocks appearing on users terminal server connections. We have two TS boxes, both the same, both running 2003. The last few days have caused users to see black blocks on the screen, sometimes in place of toolbar icons, sometimes covering entire windows. There doesn't seem to be an pattern, happens on multiple machines, over two servers etc. My worry is that it's going to be down a hardware fault or something. Anyone seen anything like this before? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: NAS/Print Server
I am looking for a one device does both type of thing. If I go separate items it makes for more support work in the long term for me. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 11:23 AM, Ames Matthew B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: infrant ready nas? I have one at home (4 x 750gb disks) runnins quite nicely for me at home -- *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 07 February 2008 11:19 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* NAS/Print Server I have a SOHO that needs a very low end file and print server. I seem to remember a couple of years ago seeing something by Linksys or Netgear or DLink that would fit the bill for this office perfectly. It was sub $200 allowed for network access to a USB drive and USB/Parallel printers. I have been on the CDW site and the only thing I see like it now is from IOGear their model GMFPSU22W6. Am I crazy or has the others been pulled from sales? Thanks for any ideas Jon The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233 Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX, United Kingdom http://www.QinetiQ.com/home/legal.htmlhttp://www.qinetiq.com/home/legal.html ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: NAS/Print Server
infrant ready nas? I have one at home (4 x 750gb disks) runnins quite nicely for me at home From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2008 11:19 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NAS/Print Server I have a SOHO that needs a very low end file and print server. I seem to remember a couple of years ago seeing something by Linksys or Netgear or DLink that would fit the bill for this office perfectly. It was sub $200 allowed for network access to a USB drive and USB/Parallel printers. I have been on the CDW site and the only thing I see like it now is from IOGear their model GMFPSU22W6. Am I crazy or has the others been pulled from sales? Thanks for any ideas Jon The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233 Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX, United Kingdom http://www.QinetiQ.com/home/legal.html ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
Put your tongue back in your mouth Don. From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? I hang out with my wang out baby... On Feb 7, 2008 9:13 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just pictured Don in a toga. Must...Go...Scrub...Brain. From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? And here I thought college was about keggers and toga parties... :P On Feb 7, 2008 7:12 AM, Benjamin Zachary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think college is about two things. 1. The ability to commit and see something to completion. You obviously take a lot of courses that have little relevancy to your actual career, and Im sure many people have degrees in which is not their career. This is often more so in non traditional degrees 2. The contacts you make in college may help you down the road. There is nothing better, IMO, then having a group of individuals studying, and going into the workforce with similar interests, degrees and backgrounds. Your paths will cross, and the higher up you go, especially in tech, the smaller the group. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: ms forefront?
The Exchange piece of Forefront used to be Antigen prior to Microsoft acquiring it, so it a pretty well known product. It is definitely feasible to use Forefront for all of your anti-malware needs, but they don't all run from the same Forefront console if that is what you are looking for. From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ms forefront? That's what I'm a bit confused by, there is a client, server and exchange, sharepoint and the CIO wants to get rid of the existing products and go one solution. Is that feasible? Has there been a proven track that the product works against an outbreak or so forth? Thomas From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ms forefront? Which part of Forefront are you considering? There is Forefront for Clients, for Exchange, for SharePoint and for other things that I'm sure I'm not thinking of right now. I use Forefront on my Exchange 2007 servers and like it very much so far. Works great and you can't beat the price. Tim From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: ms forefront? Does anyone have any experience with MS Forefront? Any caveats to this product? The CIO brought this up in a meeting and questioned the use in our environment for this app. However, I have no experience or knowledge and thought I asked the list on this product. TIA Thomas ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Remote Desktop strangeness
Had something similar happen just this morning, however it was not the Windows Key in my case it was the alt key. I just hit it a time or two and everything was back to normal and has been since. I have spent most of the morning on remote desktop working on one of our remote servers. -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Remote Desktop strangeness About once or twice a day, I get strange happenings with Remote Desktop sessions I have running. 1) I will have a window open, and start typing, and the session reacts as if I have the Windows key pressed. i.e. typing the letter e opens a Windows Explorer window, typing l will lock the desktop, etc. 2) The other issue, is if the session goes to sleep due to inactivity, and I try to put in my password to unlock it, it won't accept my password, saying it's incorrect, which kind of makes me think that it is still acting as if the Windows key is pressed, and I'm inputting incorrect keystrokes. Anyone ever see this before? It doesn't happen in every RDP session, but it is quickly becoming very annoying. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Internet Connectivity
Check the hosts file? WinSock Repair? Dial-a-fix? From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Internet Connectivity I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out... any ideas? Chris ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Internet Connectivity
is the browser configured for a proxy? If so, is he or she by passing it? From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Internet Connectivity I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out... any ideas? Chris ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: ms forefront?
Tim, thank you for that information, I'll read the docs and see what decision I make on the product. As for consoles, that's alright as well, just as others on this list, one console would be nice, but we all use multiple consoles. Just out of curiosity, from what I just briefly read, the exchange component is only for 2k7? Will it work on 2k3? Thanks Thomas From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ms forefront? The Exchange piece of Forefront used to be Antigen prior to Microsoft acquiring it, so it a pretty well known product. It is definitely feasible to use Forefront for all of your anti-malware needs, but they don't all run from the same Forefront console if that is what you are looking for. From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ms forefront? That's what I'm a bit confused by, there is a client, server and exchange, sharepoint and the CIO wants to get rid of the existing products and go one solution. Is that feasible? Has there been a proven track that the product works against an outbreak or so forth? Thomas From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ms forefront? Which part of Forefront are you considering? There is Forefront for Clients, for Exchange, for SharePoint and for other things that I'm sure I'm not thinking of right now. I use Forefront on my Exchange 2007 servers and like it very much so far. Works great and you can't beat the price. Tim From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: ms forefront? Does anyone have any experience with MS Forefront? Any caveats to this product? The CIO brought this up in a meeting and questioned the use in our environment for this app. However, I have no experience or knowledge and thought I asked the list on this product. TIA Thomas ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Internet Connectivity
I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out. any ideas? Chris ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Internet Connectivity
Computer = boss Andy -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity Seen that a couple of times, both times was a root kit, and I ended up blowing away the computer and reloading from scratch. That was quicker than trying to figure it out. Especially if the guy is like you said. However did you check his gateway settings to make sure they are still correct? -Original Message- From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity As much as a want to slap the guy, I can't. Want to, but can't. This particular user is an a-hole, and personally, doesn't need the internet here. All I've seen him do it add viruses to the network, download illegal music, and keep near-porn wallpaper on his computer. I'm not really trying TOO hard to fix it, but it does have me stumped. It's XP Pro. No firewall. Nslookup is normal, tried the normal bootup, I'll go check the logs (as that seems to have slipped my mind here.) Chris From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:59 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity A little more information Christopher. Vista, XP, Mac, Linux? What have you done to fix the problem? Stop firewall? Ran NBTStat, nslookup, etc. Slap the user in the face and ask WTF did you do? There are logs that was generated. Look at the logs and come tell us again. -Z.V. From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Internet Connectivity I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out... any ideas? Chris ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Internet Connectivity
Seen that a couple of times, both times was a root kit, and I ended up blowing away the computer and reloading from scratch. That was quicker than trying to figure it out. Especially if the guy is like you said. However did you check his gateway settings to make sure they are still correct? -Original Message- From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity As much as a want to slap the guy, I can't. Want to, but can't. This particular user is an a-hole, and personally, doesn't need the internet here. All I've seen him do it add viruses to the network, download illegal music, and keep near-porn wallpaper on his computer. I'm not really trying TOO hard to fix it, but it does have me stumped. It's XP Pro. No firewall. Nslookup is normal, tried the normal bootup, I'll go check the logs (as that seems to have slipped my mind here.) Chris From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:59 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity A little more information Christopher. Vista, XP, Mac, Linux? What have you done to fix the problem? Stop firewall? Ran NBTStat, nslookup, etc. Slap the user in the face and ask WTF did you do? There are logs that was generated. Look at the logs and come tell us again. -Z.V. From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Internet Connectivity I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out... any ideas? Chris ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Internet Connectivity
Kurt; This may sound crazy but this has happened to me at least twice last year. I just deleted Temporary internet files and Temp directory along with cookies and all is well. I have yet to figure out what's causing this but each time problem has been resolved. Ithen open up new browser and internet access is no problem. Thanks' Joe Haralson Network Infrastructure team Desk 847-598-6737 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Internet Connectivity On Feb 7, 2008 10:43 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out... any ideas? Chris What does 'ipconfig /all' look like? What do the firewall logs say for that IP address - any denies or allows? Is your environment subnetted, or is everyone on the same subnet as the firewall? Does name resolution work - for instance, does 'ping www.yahoo.com' resolve to an IP address, and do you get a return from it? (Oddly enough, for some reason I'm not getting responses to pings against cisco.com - weird.) Kurt ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Remote Desktop strangeness
That actually worked. Hit the Windows key and typing works again. Another weird MS feature I guess... Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Remote Desktop strangeness Had something similar happen just this morning, however it was not the Windows Key in my case it was the alt key. I just hit it a time or two and everything was back to normal and has been since. I have spent most of the morning on remote desktop working on one of our remote servers. -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Remote Desktop strangeness About once or twice a day, I get strange happenings with Remote Desktop sessions I have running. 1) I will have a window open, and start typing, and the session reacts as if I have the Windows key pressed. i.e. typing the letter e opens a Windows Explorer window, typing l will lock the desktop, etc. 2) The other issue, is if the session goes to sleep due to inactivity, and I try to put in my password to unlock it, it won't accept my password, saying it's incorrect, which kind of makes me think that it is still acting as if the Windows key is pressed, and I'm inputting incorrect keystrokes. Anyone ever see this before? It doesn't happen in every RDP session, but it is quickly becoming very annoying. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Internet Connectivity
What is Dial-a-fix? It's GOD. But I would try a winsock repair first and foremost. http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity Hosts file was fine. No proxy, nor was one configured. What is Dial-a-fix? From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:51 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity Check the hosts file? WinSock Repair? Dial-a-fix? From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:50 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity is the browser configured for a proxy? If so, is he or she by passing it? From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Internet Connectivity I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out... any ideas? Chris ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Internet Connectivity
gotta ask the obvious, but by all settings you mean his default gateway shows correctly in IPCONFIG -ALL ? _ From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Internet Connectivity I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can’t even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out… any ideas? Chris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1263 - Release Date: 2/6/2008 8:14 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1263 - Release Date: 2/6/2008 8:14 PM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Internet Connectivity
A little more information Christopher. Vista, XP, Mac, Linux? What have you done to fix the problem? Stop firewall? Ran NBTStat, nslookup, etc. Slap the user in the face and ask WTF did you do? There are logs that was generated. Look at the logs and come tell us again. -Z.V. _ From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Internet Connectivity I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out. any ideas? Chris ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Internet Connectivity
Firewall rule perhaps? We have some users who have been denied any access past the firewall... ;-) On Feb 7, 2008 12:43 PM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out… any ideas? Chris ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Time oddity
I haven't come across a way to configure this to point to the correct server? Is it possible to manage this or should I somehow try to ignore it? thanks On 2/7/08, Free, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep- Net Time uses the old LanMan NetTOD API calls and searches the browse list for a system advertising the TS flag. No NTP or SNTP involved. The only thing Net Time has to do with NTP is that it can query or set the HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\Parameters\NTPServer value in the registry -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time oddity On Feb 6, 2008 4:30 PM, MarvinC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I type net time from the command prompt I get current time at \\myIndiaDC is 4:24pm and local time (GMT +05:30) at \\myIndiaDC is 2/7/2008 2:53 AM. I believe using just NET TIME doesn't use NTP; rather, it uses whatever mechanism NTLM SMB has for time server location. Probably a browser master or NTLM logon server or something. Active Directory doesn't use those mechanisms, so this is something of a leftover. -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
PPTP connections and lack of ping
I've got a problem with an SBS box here. It's been setup for VPN access for a while, but mysteriously seems to have stopped working for vpn clients. I have a feeling this is down to SP2 being installed a month or so ago, but I can't be sure and it's just a guess. I can connect to the box from my vista machine, and my machine is assigned an IP address from the DHCP pool on the server as well as a DNS address of the SBS box itself. However the laptop isn't assigned a gateway address. While connected to the VPN I can't do a thing, not even ping the servers internal IP (comes up 'request timed out'). I can't see anywhere in Vista to manually set a gateway address. I also know that other vista and mac users are having the same thing happen (connected but not able to anything). Anyone know what might be up ? Could it be an SP2 issue ? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Are you a geek if...?
:-) I freaking love that game. It's like playing a Pixar movie. My charcter favorite line is from the Medic when he has been on fire for an extended period of time (with a thick German accent): Everybody! Look at me! I am on fire!!! ROFL On Feb 7, 2008 3:06 PM, Kelsey, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need a dispenser here You'll appreciate this if you're a TF2 player! http://youtube.com/watch?v=JUPzN7tp7bQ *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 16:14 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Are you a geek if...? Only if it helps my light up some fodder while I'm playing a Pyro in Team Fortress 2! On Feb 6, 2008 4:09 PM, Eric Woodford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lots of flare? On Feb 6, 2008 11:13 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer mine to be quite serious, and have lots of buttons. On Feb 6, 2008 2:02 PM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you don't need a silly mouse! Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Are you a geek if...? On Feb 6, 2008 11:19 AM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When using a Windows system you can't live without the Run... command or the command prompt? Run... is ALWAYS the first thing I add. [Windows Key]+[R] will bring up the Run dialog, even if the Start Menu option is hidden (unless the Run dialog is disabled by Group Policy). -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Internet Connectivity
Reinstalling the NIC worked. Yes, sadly the user needs admin access (per my boss). I keep trying to convince him he doesn't need admin access just because the program he's running says so. It's like trying to drive through a brick wall with a Mini. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 14:18 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Internet Connectivity On Feb 7, 2008 1:43 PM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: internet will not work Define internet will not work. Just MSIE, anything using IP, something else? Error messages? Can you reach LAN systems with IP protocols? Got a LAN webserver you can check? Can't even ping out. Define can't ping. Is PING.EXE missing? Won't execute? Runs but gives an error message? If so, what is the message? Have you tried pinging by IP address as well as names? Have you tried pinging more than one host? Can you ping the default gateway? Can you ping other LAN hosts? Check the output of IPCONFIG /ALL and ROUTE PRINT for correctness. Compare to a working system on the same LAN. Does NSLOOKUP www.google.com come back with a correct IP address? All I've seen him do it add viruses to the network, download illegal music, and keep near-porn wallpaper on his computer. Does the user have admin rights to the PC? (If so, you're probably doomed.) -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Black blocks appearing on TS connections
Thats what I thought it may be, but so far all the connections are set to max colour support. Dont really know what to do about a thin client that has low free gfx memory. I mean, we can't upgrade them, and we can't reduce whats running (XPe and RDC only) -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2008 18:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Black blocks appearing on TS connections I see this frequently on TS sessions to our Win2k TS server. On Win2k, it's an inherent limitation in the depth of the color palette, but I wonder if perhaps in your case if the TS clients are specifying a limited color palette (16 bit, IIRC). Otherwise, I'd go with video memory starvation as suggested by the other responses. Kurt On Feb 7, 2008 7:31 AM, Oliver Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi chaps, We have been hit with a spate of reports of black blocks appearing on users terminal server connections. We have two TS boxes, both the same, both running 2003. The last few days have caused users to see black blocks on the screen, sometimes in place of toolbar icons, sometimes covering entire windows. There doesn't seem to be an pattern, happens on multiple machines, over two servers etc. My worry is that it's going to be down a hardware fault or something. Anyone seen anything like this before? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Internet Connectivity
On Feb 7, 2008 10:43 AM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out… any ideas? Chris What does 'ipconfig /all' look like? What do the firewall logs say for that IP address - any denies or allows? Is your environment subnetted, or is everyone on the same subnet as the firewall? Does name resolution work - for instance, does 'ping www.yahoo.com' resolve to an IP address, and do you get a return from it? (Oddly enough, for some reason I'm not getting responses to pings against cisco.com - weird.) Kurt ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Internet Connectivity
As much as a want to slap the guy, I can't. Want to, but can't. This particular user is an a-hole, and personally, doesn't need the internet here. All I've seen him do it add viruses to the network, download illegal music, and keep near-porn wallpaper on his computer. I'm not really trying TOO hard to fix it, but it does have me stumped. It's XP Pro. No firewall. Nslookup is normal, tried the normal bootup, I'll go check the logs (as that seems to have slipped my mind here.) Chris From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:59 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity A little more information Christopher. Vista, XP, Mac, Linux? What have you done to fix the problem? Stop firewall? Ran NBTStat, nslookup, etc. Slap the user in the face and ask WTF did you do? There are logs that was generated. Look at the logs and come tell us again. -Z.V. _ From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Internet Connectivity I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out. any ideas? Chris ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Internet Connectivity
Well put Z.V. 'a slap works, or it's the 18in rule' From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity A little more information Christopher. Vista, XP, Mac, Linux? What have you done to fix the problem? Stop firewall? Ran NBTStat, nslookup, etc. Slap the user in the face and ask WTF did you do? There are logs that was generated. Look at the logs and come tell us again. -Z.V. From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Internet Connectivity I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out... any ideas? Chris ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Are you a geek if...?
Need a dispenser here You'll appreciate this if you're a TF2 player! http://youtube.com/watch?v=JUPzN7tp7bQ *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 16:14 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Are you a geek if...? Only if it helps my light up some fodder while I'm playing a Pyro in Team Fortress 2! On Feb 6, 2008 4:09 PM, Eric Woodford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lots of flare? On Feb 6, 2008 11:13 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer mine to be quite serious, and have lots of buttons. On Feb 6, 2008 2:02 PM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you don't need a silly mouse! Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Are you a geek if...? On Feb 6, 2008 11:19 AM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When using a Windows system you can't live without the Run... command or the command prompt? Run... is ALWAYS the first thing I add. [Windows Key]+[R] will bring up the Run dialog, even if the Start Menu option is hidden (unless the Run dialog is disabled by Group Policy). -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Internet Connectivity
Change the IP address of the client. Does it still happen? Bob Fronk From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Internet Connectivity I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out... any ideas? Chris This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Davis H. Elliot Company company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Internet Connectivity
Hosts file was fine. No proxy, nor was one configured. What is Dial-a-fix? From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:51 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity Check the hosts file? WinSock Repair? Dial-a-fix? From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:50 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity is the browser configured for a proxy? If so, is he or she by passing it? _ From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Internet Connectivity I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out. any ideas? Chris ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: OS upgrade
I probably did 30+ servers this way, by adding the R2 disk (run setup2.exe, put in the license key) and they've been fine--the steps are the R2 documentation on the cd. We did have one server that no matter what, just would not take the key (same vol keys as our other servers--very strange). We were going to call MS, but it was due for a hardware upgrade anyway, so we ended up rebuilding the OS at that time. It never got past the key issue to even try to install, so rollback wasn't an issue. This was all before SP2 was out though (we were at SP1), so I'm not sure how well that plays with running the upgrade. And, each one had backups first, of course =) -Bonnie -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OS upgrade Reload is an ugly option. SQL is installed with several instances, IIS with some other stuff. Thanks for everyone's input, however Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OS upgrade I believe that the last time I did this, I had sp2 installed and I had to remove it first. Otherwise, it was fine. But I recommend a re-install. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OS upgrade I have a server I'd like to upgrade from 2003 Standard to 2003 Enterprise R2. Per this link it's supported: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/whyupgrade/support edpa ths.mspx Any caveats in actual practice? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Black blocks appearing on TS connections
I see this frequently on TS sessions to our Win2k TS server. On Win2k, it's an inherent limitation in the depth of the color palette, but I wonder if perhaps in your case if the TS clients are specifying a limited color palette (16 bit, IIRC). Otherwise, I'd go with video memory starvation as suggested by the other responses. Kurt On Feb 7, 2008 7:31 AM, Oliver Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi chaps, We have been hit with a spate of reports of black blocks appearing on users terminal server connections. We have two TS boxes, both the same, both running 2003. The last few days have caused users to see black blocks on the screen, sometimes in place of toolbar icons, sometimes covering entire windows. There doesn't seem to be an pattern, happens on multiple machines, over two servers etc. My worry is that it's going to be down a hardware fault or something. Anyone seen anything like this before? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: OS upgrade
What are you hoping to achieve? What does R2 bring to the table that this server needs? -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OS upgrade Reload is an ugly option. SQL is installed with several instances, IIS with some other stuff. Thanks for everyone's input, however Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OS upgrade I believe that the last time I did this, I had sp2 installed and I had to remove it first. Otherwise, it was fine. But I recommend a re-install. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OS upgrade I have a server I'd like to upgrade from 2003 Standard to 2003 Enterprise R2. Per this link it's supported: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/whyupgrade/support edpa ths.mspx Any caveats in actual practice? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Certs + Experience + which degree?
I hang out with my wang out baby... On Feb 7, 2008 9:13 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just pictured Don in a toga. Must…Go...Scrub…Brain. *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:19 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? And here I thought college was about keggers and toga parties... :P On Feb 7, 2008 7:12 AM, Benjamin Zachary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think college is about two things. 1. The ability to commit and see something to completion. You obviously take a lot of courses that have little relevancy to your actual career, and Im sure many people have degrees in which is not their career. This is often more so in non traditional degrees 2. The contacts you make in college may help you down the road. There is nothing better, IMO, then having a group of individuals studying, and going into the workforce with similar interests, degrees and backgrounds. Your paths will cross, and the higher up you go, especially in tech, the smaller the group. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: ms forefront?
Which part of Forefront are you considering? There is Forefront for Clients, for Exchange, for SharePoint and for other things that I'm sure I'm not thinking of right now. I use Forefront on my Exchange 2007 servers and like it very much so far. Works great and you can't beat the price. Tim From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: ms forefront? Does anyone have any experience with MS Forefront? Any caveats to this product? The CIO brought this up in a meeting and questioned the use in our environment for this app. However, I have no experience or knowledge and thought I asked the list on this product. TIA Thomas ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
In my (limited) experience, many larger companies require both degrees and certification. Maybe not for entry-level positions, but certainly for folks who want to climb the ladder. I may well be biased because I was just raised to believe that just about everyone ought to try to get a college degree. There are exceptions, of course, like the kids who go to vocational school to learn to be welders or hairstylists (let me make it clear that there's absolutely nothing wrong with professions such as those). But in the 21st century, the majority of professional positions require a degree. Growing up, it just never occurred to me to consider skipping college. Clearly, degrees and certs both have value. I think we all agree on that. Having both a degree and certs would be ideal for someone who wants to have the most options available. John From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? It is really an apples and oranges kind of comparison. What about the question of a 1 year old cert or a 20 year old degree? Because that is what will usually end up happening in the real world. A big part of the equation is whether your long term goals are to be a people manager or a technology manager. People managers will find an MBA much more useful down the road than a manager of technology. The technologist will generally find the certification much more valuable in the long run. YMMV, Tim From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I hear what you're saying, but when most employers want to hire people with a degree, they don't care when that degree was earned. There are very few jobs where it matters whether the degree was earned a month ago or a decade ago-all that matters is that the degree was earned. If I had to choose, I'd rather have a ten-year-old college degree than a ten-year-old certification. Of course, in a perfect world, one would have both degrees and up-to-date certs. John From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? Hey John, I am in a similar situation as you however I disagree with your statement that degrees are forever. An AA or Bachelors Degree only shows you have invested more time in yourself to gain insight into a specific field of study and/or proves you have a higher level of education in the basics such as English, Math etc. A degree is basically the same as any certification. It only shows you have invested more time in getting to know the basics of a specific field of study. Even Professors have to continue their studies as new discoveries are made to keep up with the changing times. My 2 (Uneducated) Cents, Tom From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I've got a young woman (early 20's) working for me as a PC technician. The position requires A+ and Network+ certifications, which she has. She was commenting earlier this week that very little of what she learned in the certification process has helped her out in the field. The things you come across in the real world just can't be duplicate in books. That's not to say that certification is useless, but we all know that certs alone aren't worth much. I've got over 10 years of experience, and the only certs I have are A+, Net+, and I-Net+. When I found myself with time to study, I didn't go for more certs-I finished my Bachelor's degree (I had dropped out of college as a junior, having already earned my AA). The next step for me is a Master's; I'd rather spend my time and energy on that than certs. Certs have a limited shelf life, but degrees are forever. After the Master's, I may look into additional certs. But that will be a few years. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I can see where you are coming from, I find myself at this familiar cross-roads. It seems that re-certification is necessary evil now, but probably going the SSCP/CISSP ISC2 route because its vendor/neutral and it really peaks my interest, and never gets boring. Plus it doesn't pigeonhole me into supporting one OS over another or one technology over another. But honestly, experience is the best teacher. How many times I have sat in a class, and you knew the
RE: Remote Desktop strangeness
No, but it doesn't do it when working on my own computer, just randomly during RDP sessions... Joe Heaton From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: R: Remote Desktop strangeness Did you try to change your keyboard? GuidoElia HELPPC Da: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: giovedì 7 febbraio 2008 18.07 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: Remote Desktop strangeness About once or twice a day, I get strange happenings with Remote Desktop sessions I have running. 1) I will have a window open, and start typing, and the session reacts as if I have the Windows key pressed. i.e. typing the letter e opens a Windows Explorer window, typing l will lock the desktop, etc. 2) The other issue, is if the session goes to sleep due to inactivity, and I try to put in my password to unlock it, it won't accept my password, saying it's incorrect, which kind of makes me think that it is still acting as if the Windows key is pressed, and I'm inputting incorrect keystrokes. Anyone ever see this before? It doesn't happen in every RDP session, but it is quickly becoming very annoying. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
on the drums = your pud From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I figured you liked to Beat on the drums, as did I back in my childhood days. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I'll one up you, Z. My undergrad is in music (Percussion). Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? Good view of it. Looking at Masters in IT/Information Science also, but borrowing like 40-60K at 8% just to get through the course, and taking Graduate Placement Exams ( MCAT? MCAP) doesn't thrill me either. I got enough real-world experience, to breeze through possibly ¼ to ½ the cirrcumlum for the MSIT degree ( CISSP at most accredited colleges will count for about 12-15 credits towards the Masters, which helps get the degree quicker) True: Running the certification rat-race does get boring after a while, but in IT its basically the Icing on the cake in my eyes, doing the jobs, getting the experience is really what it comes down to. And hell my undergrad was in Mechnical Engineering, wish they had the IT Degrees back in my day in college, all they had was CIS ( Coding, which I loathe) Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I've got a young woman (early 20's) working for me as a PC technician. The position requires A+ and Network+ certifications, which she has. She was commenting earlier this week that very little of what she learned in the certification process has helped her out in the field. The things you come across in the real world just can't be duplicate in books. That's not to say that certification is useless, but we all know that certs alone aren't worth much. I've got over 10 years of experience, and the only certs I have are A+, Net+, and I-Net+. When I found myself with time to study, I didn't go for more certs-I finished my Bachelor's degree (I had dropped out of college as a junior, having already earned my AA). The next step for me is a Master's; I'd rather spend my time and energy on that than certs. Certs have a limited shelf life, but degrees are forever. After the Master's, I may look into additional certs. But that will be a few years. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I can see where you are coming from, I find myself at this familiar cross-roads. It seems that re-certification is necessary evil now, but probably going the SSCP/CISSP ISC2 route because its vendor/neutral and it really peaks my interest, and never gets boring. Plus it doesn't pigeonhole me into supporting one OS over another or one technology over another. But honestly, experience is the best teacher. How many times I have sat in a class, and you knew the professor didn't have much real-world experience, and basically was teaching you the theory of how things are supposed to go, which we both know doesn't always work out to what it really does, when you get down to it. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? The time to study + the time to commit to hands on related work that may intefere with studying for a masters/phd.. I've thought about pursuing one or the other but the current work load just allow time. Of course there's also part-time and/or online schooling as an option. I'd say it could depend on just how much you're looking to get out of the classes and whether you function better in a classroom or working from home. Having the 2000/2003 MS certs I'm now having to consider tackling the 2008 certs or make the jump to another industry platform like Cisco. Talk about wanting to pull the covers back over my
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
Just pictured Don in a toga. Must...Go...Scrub...Brain. From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? And here I thought college was about keggers and toga parties... :P On Feb 7, 2008 7:12 AM, Benjamin Zachary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think college is about two things. 1. The ability to commit and see something to completion. You obviously take a lot of courses that have little relevancy to your actual career, and Im sure many people have degrees in which is not their career. This is often more so in non traditional degrees 2. The contacts you make in college may help you down the road. There is nothing better, IMO, then having a group of individuals studying, and going into the workforce with similar interests, degrees and backgrounds. Your paths will cross, and the higher up you go, especially in tech, the smaller the group. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: NAS/Print Server
Was yours the $1500 unit or is there more than one out there? Jon On Feb 7, 2008 11:44 AM, Ames Matthew B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also supports USB printers - It has something like 4 UBS ports, and can monitor a UPS as well, so if the even of a power cut and my UPS running out of power it will gracefully shutdown (and can control other readynas to tell them to shutdown as well - assuming the network stays up in the even if a powercut. Will integrated into AD as well if required, but I am assuming this is not required in this instance. -- *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 07 February 2008 16:39 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: NAS/Print Server I am looking for a one device does both type of thing. If I go separate items it makes for more support work in the long term for me. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 11:23 AM, Ames Matthew B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: infrant ready nas? I have one at home (4 x 750gb disks) runnins quite nicely for me at home -- *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 07 February 2008 11:19 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* NAS/Print Server I have a SOHO that needs a very low end file and print server. I seem to remember a couple of years ago seeing something by Linksys or Netgear or DLink that would fit the bill for this office perfectly. It was sub $200 allowed for network access to a USB drive and USB/Parallel printers. I have been on the CDW site and the only thing I see like it now is from IOGear their model GMFPSU22W6. Am I crazy or has the others been pulled from sales? Thanks for any ideas Jon The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233 Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX, United Kingdom http://www.QinetiQ.com/home/legal.htmlhttp://www.qinetiq.com/home/legal.html The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233 Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX, United Kingdom http://www.QinetiQ.com/home/legal.htmlhttp://www.qinetiq.com/home/legal.html ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: RPC over HTTPS
Hi Andy, IAG is licensed on a per client basis, but there are number of options available. ISA is installed on it as a host based firewall, but you would never configure the ISA components. The ISA configuration is done automatically when you configure the IAG SSL VPN. So, the IAG is used *only* for SSL VPN, not as an inbound or outbound firewall as ISA would be used. Right now, IAG is only available as a hardware offering from from select OEMs. Tom Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org http://www.isaserver.org/ Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA) From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RPC over HTTPS Dr. Tom, How is IAG licensed, is it part of ISA 2006 natively or what? Thanks, Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RPC over HTTPS Of course you can control this. IAG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RPC over HTTPS It is a valid concern, and no - I'm not aware of any way to prevent it on a machine-by-machine basis. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RPC over HTTPS We are getting ready to roll out RPC over HTTPS for email. For quite awhile we have had most of our users internal to the company and have just used the Outlook client to access Exchange natively. As we have brought remote offices online the VPN tunnels enabled similar access. Then we had a few roaming users that we gave VPN access to for their email. And of course everyone has OWA for access from home, and ActiveSync for access from their mobile devices. There is one overwhelming concern we have with enabling RPC over HTTPS though, and I am wondering if anyone has any commentary on this, or suggestions. By allowing RPC over HTTPS we are enabling our staff to download all of their company email on a machine which may or may not be within our control. Sure, with OWA they can access their email from home and selectively grab a message here and there, but with RPC over HTTPS they can grab an entire mailbox and do whatever they want with it. This is definitely one of those areas that could come back to haunt us later. For the short term we would only set it up on company laptops of course, however there is nothing stopping someone from copying those settings to their own personal machine. Or is there? Is there any solution that can be implemented so we control which computers can access our Exchange over RPC? Thanks, Jeff ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: OT: Off to the UK for not a vacation...
I'll mention that when the lease on our facility comes up. Heh. On 2/7/08, James Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next time try and get posted up to the north-east, it's by far the friendliest and has the best beer. :- On 07/02/2008, Kurt Buff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UK members of these lists, If you're within striking distance of Basingstoke, about 50 miles (80 km) SW of London, I'd love to hear from you. I'll be there for about 10 days starting on the 14th of February. I'll probably (oh, I really hope I do!) have a free night at some point - if you're up for a pint, I'll see what I can do to break away from work. I don't know the area, and won't have any time for real vacation, most likely, as I'll be putting in a DC, Exchange 2003, moving everyone off of Ex5.5 and switching their workstations to the new domain, setting up backup jobs, installing and configuring new UPSes, etc., but an evening out swapping war stories would be fun. You'll get to make fun of the old long-haired fellow in the Utilikilt, if that's any incentive... Kurt ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Certs + Experience + which degree?
Try a degree in Chemistry with a minor in Physics and work as in Health Physics for 7 years then move into IT work that is a challenge I would not want to repeat. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 10:38 AM, Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My undergrad is in Theology...LOL. It all helps. I can understand why God brings a server down, and then pray better to get it back up. On Thu, Feb 7, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll one up you, Z. My undergrad is in music (Percussion). Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook -- *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:51 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? Good view of it. Looking at Masters in IT/Information Science also, but borrowing like 40-60K at 8% just to get through the course, and taking Graduate Placement Exams ( MCAT? MCAP) doesn't thrill me either. I got enough real-world experience, to breeze through possibly ¼ to ½ the cirrcumlum for the MSIT degree ( CISSP at most accredited colleges will count for about 12-15 credits towards the Masters, which helps get the degree quicker) True: Running the certification rat-race does get boring after a while, but in IT its basically the Icing on the cake in my eyes, doing the jobs, getting the experience is really what it comes down to. And hell my undergrad was in Mechnical Engineering, wish they had the IT Degrees back in my day in college, all they had was CIS ( Coding, which I loathe) Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:35 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I've got a young woman (early 20's) working for me as a PC technician. The position requires A+ and Network+ certifications, which she has. She was commenting earlier this week that very little of what she learned in the certification process has helped her out in the field. The things you come across in the real world just can't be duplicate in books. That's not to say that certification is useless, but we all know that certs alone aren't worth much. I've got over 10 years of experience, and the only certs I have are A+, Net+, and I-Net+. When I found myself with time to study, I didn't go for more certs—I finished my Bachelor's degree (I had dropped out of college as a junior, having already earned my AA). The next step for me is a Master's; I'd rather spend my time and energy on that than certs. Certs have a limited shelf life, but degrees are forever. After the Master's, I may look into additional certs. But that will be a few years. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:51 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I can see where you are coming from, I find myself at this familiar cross-roads. It seems that re-certification is necessary evil now, but probably going the SSCP/CISSP ISC2 route because its vendor/neutral and it really peaks my interest, and never gets boring. Plus it doesn't pigeonhole me into supporting one OS over another or one technology over another. But honestly, experience is the best teacher. How many times I have sat in a class, and you knew the professor didn't have much real-world experience, and basically was teaching you the theory of how things are supposed to go, which we both know doesn't always work out to what it really does, when you get down to it. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- *From:* MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? The time to study + the time to commit to hands on related work that may intefere with studying for a masters/phd.. I've thought about pursuing one or the other but the current work load just allow time. Of course there's also part-time and/or online schooling as an option. I'd say it could depend on just how much you're looking to get out of the classes and whether you function better in a classroom or working from home. Having the 2000/2003 MS certs I'm now having to consider tackling the 2008 certs or make the jump to another industry platform like
RE: OS upgrade
Id do a full reload, never been a fan of upgrading systems.. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OS upgrade Personally I would not do it but then I have only had the option one time. Any reason not to do a full reload? Jon On Feb 7, 2008 10:45 AM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a server I'd like to upgrade from 2003 Standard to 2003 Enterprise R2. Per this link it's supported: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/whyupgrade/support edpaths.mspx Any caveats in actual practice? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: OS upgrade
Personally I would not do it but then I have only had the option one time. Any reason not to do a full reload? Jon On Feb 7, 2008 10:45 AM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a server I'd like to upgrade from 2003 Standard to 2003 Enterprise R2. Per this link it's supported: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/whyupgrade/support edpaths.mspx Any caveats in actual practice? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: OS upgrade
Updated 3 servers like that David, but they were only member servers. Good Luck! -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OS upgrade I have a server I'd like to upgrade from 2003 Standard to 2003 Enterprise R2. Per this link it's supported: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/whyupgrade/support edpaths.mspx Any caveats in actual practice? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
LOL at Penn State it was. How I survived is anyones guess. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? And here I thought college was about keggers and toga parties... :P On Feb 7, 2008 7:12 AM, Benjamin Zachary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think college is about two things. 1. The ability to commit and see something to completion. You obviously take a lot of courses that have little relevancy to your actual career, and Im sure many people have degrees in which is not their career. This is often more so in non traditional degrees 2. The contacts you make in college may help you down the road. There is nothing better, IMO, then having a group of individuals studying, and going into the workforce with similar interests, degrees and backgrounds. Your paths will cross, and the higher up you go, especially in tech, the smaller the group. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: NAS/Print Server
Yeah we have something like this now but are looking to replace a dedicated server that is way over kill for that office. All they need in that office is someplace to dump backups and print to. It is a one man with occasionally 3 person office. It needs shared/sharable storage and printing. The server hardware is an old PC running Windows 2000 server but the parallel port just died and I need to replace the box. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 8:45 AM, Terry Dickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you looked at the Buffalo Linkstation Live? I have not used it so I cannot give it a recommendation other than it is supposed to do these and Newegg has it for under $200. http://www.buffalotech.com/products/network-storage/linkstation/linkstat ion-live/ -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NAS/Print Server Then I would just start hitting the big four's websites. Linksys, Netgear, buffalo, blackstone_is_a_homo.com Andy From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/Print Server Nope, almost the same choices I already went through at CDW. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 7:31 AM, Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I knew I was not crazy! Thanks Andy found something very quick that just fits the bill I think. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 7:13 AM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon, Head over to newegg.com http://newegg.com/ they got everything Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NAS/Print Server I have a SOHO that needs a very low end file and print server. I seem to remember a couple of years ago seeing something by Linksys or Netgear or DLink that would fit the bill for this office perfectly. It was sub $200 allowed for network access to a USB drive and USB/Parallel printers. I have been on the CDW site and the only thing I see like it now is from IOGear their model GMFPSU22W6. Am I crazy or has the others been pulled from sales? Thanks for any ideas Jon ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Certs + Experience + which degree?
And here I thought college was about keggers and toga parties... :P On Feb 7, 2008 7:12 AM, Benjamin Zachary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think college is about two things. 1. The ability to commit and see something to completion. You obviously take a lot of courses that have little relevancy to your actual career, and Im sure many people have degrees in which is not their career. This is often more so in non traditional degrees 2. The contacts you make in college may help you down the road. There is nothing better, IMO, then having a group of individuals studying, and going into the workforce with similar interests, degrees and backgrounds. Your paths will cross, and the higher up you go, especially in tech, the smaller the group. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Black blocks appearing on TS connections
Hi chaps, We have been hit with a spate of reports of black blocks appearing on users terminal server connections. We have two TS boxes, both the same, both running 2003. The last few days have caused users to see black blocks on the screen, sometimes in place of toolbar icons, sometimes covering entire windows. There doesn't seem to be an pattern, happens on multiple machines, over two servers etc. My worry is that it's going to be down a hardware fault or something. Anyone seen anything like this before? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Certs + Experience + which degree?
No, no, it's ID Senators in MN bathrooms... :P On Feb 7, 2008 7:24 AM, Ziots, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know about the good Ol Boy system Shook and I aint southern, Now in Idaho that has a different connotation. Usually involving bathroom stalls and US Senators J Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? Whole heartily agree, especially on #2. It's not about what you know, its who you know. This is called the good ol' boy system for you non-southern types. Andy -- *From:* Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:13 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I think college is about two things. 1. The ability to commit and see something to completion. You obviously take a lot of courses that have little relevancy to your actual career, and Im sure many people have degrees in which is not their career. This is often more so in non traditional degrees 2. The contacts you make in college may help you down the road. There is nothing better, IMO, then having a group of individuals studying, and going into the workforce with similar interests, degrees and backgrounds. Your paths will cross, and the higher up you go, especially in tech, the smaller the group. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Paging File Growth
Duh! I don't know how I missed that! Thanks for pointing out (what should have been) the obvious. Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 The end of labor is to gain leisure. -Original Message- From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Paging File Growth Add the column for VM size to the Processes list. Then look for the thing whose VM size is much bigger than all the rest. Carl -Original Message- From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Paging File Growth Task Manager shows the PF size and the Processes tab shows memory utilization, but how do I tell what is causing it to grow so much? I'm using a fixed size of 3 GB and have 1 GB RAM. Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing. -Original Message- From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Paging File Growth Yes, Taskmgr.exe. Carl -Original Message- From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Paging File Growth The paging file on my desktop machine starts out in the 500MB range and grows to over 2.5GB throughout the day. The only way I can shrink it is by logging off. Is there a simple tool to monitor what is using the paging file? Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: NAS/Print Server
Have you looked at the Buffalo Linkstation Live? I have not used it so I cannot give it a recommendation other than it is supposed to do these and Newegg has it for under $200. http://www.buffalotech.com/products/network-storage/linkstation/linkstat ion-live/ -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NAS/Print Server Then I would just start hitting the big four's websites. Linksys, Netgear, buffalo, blackstone_is_a_homo.com Andy From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NAS/Print Server Nope, almost the same choices I already went through at CDW. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 7:31 AM, Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I knew I was not crazy! Thanks Andy found something very quick that just fits the bill I think. Jon On Feb 7, 2008 7:13 AM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon, Head over to newegg.com http://newegg.com/ they got everything Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NAS/Print Server I have a SOHO that needs a very low end file and print server. I seem to remember a couple of years ago seeing something by Linksys or Netgear or DLink that would fit the bill for this office perfectly. It was sub $200 allowed for network access to a USB drive and USB/Parallel printers. I have been on the CDW site and the only thing I see like it now is from IOGear their model GMFPSU22W6. Am I crazy or has the others been pulled from sales? Thanks for any ideas Jon ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
I figured you liked to Beat on the drums, as did I back in my childhood days. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I'll one up you, Z. My undergrad is in music (Percussion). Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? Good view of it. Looking at Masters in IT/Information Science also, but borrowing like 40-60K at 8% just to get through the course, and taking Graduate Placement Exams ( MCAT? MCAP) doesn't thrill me either. I got enough real-world experience, to breeze through possibly ¼ to ½ the cirrcumlum for the MSIT degree ( CISSP at most accredited colleges will count for about 12-15 credits towards the Masters, which helps get the degree quicker) True: Running the certification rat-race does get boring after a while, but in IT its basically the Icing on the cake in my eyes, doing the jobs, getting the experience is really what it comes down to. And hell my undergrad was in Mechnical Engineering, wish they had the IT Degrees back in my day in college, all they had was CIS ( Coding, which I loathe) Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I've got a young woman (early 20's) working for me as a PC technician. The position requires A+ and Network+ certifications, which she has. She was commenting earlier this week that very little of what she learned in the certification process has helped her out in the field. The things you come across in the real world just can't be duplicate in books. That's not to say that certification is useless, but we all know that certs alone aren't worth much. I've got over 10 years of experience, and the only certs I have are A+, Net+, and I-Net+. When I found myself with time to study, I didn't go for more certs-I finished my Bachelor's degree (I had dropped out of college as a junior, having already earned my AA). The next step for me is a Master's; I'd rather spend my time and energy on that than certs. Certs have a limited shelf life, but degrees are forever. After the Master's, I may look into additional certs. But that will be a few years. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I can see where you are coming from, I find myself at this familiar cross-roads. It seems that re-certification is necessary evil now, but probably going the SSCP/CISSP ISC2 route because its vendor/neutral and it really peaks my interest, and never gets boring. Plus it doesn't pigeonhole me into supporting one OS over another or one technology over another. But honestly, experience is the best teacher. How many times I have sat in a class, and you knew the professor didn't have much real-world experience, and basically was teaching you the theory of how things are supposed to go, which we both know doesn't always work out to what it really does, when you get down to it. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? The time to study + the time to commit to hands on related work that may intefere with studying for a masters/phd.. I've thought about pursuing one or the other but the current work load just allow time. Of course there's also part-time and/or online schooling as an option. I'd say it could depend on just how much you're looking to get out of the classes and whether you function better in a classroom or working from home. Having the 2000/2003 MS certs I'm now having to consider tackling the 2008 certs or make the jump to another industry platform like Cisco. Talk about wanting to pull the covers back over my head! At this stage in my life I've come to the conclusion that I won't become rich or wealthy working in this field unless I stumble across a nice patent. I believe in the glass ceiling and that
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
I'm looking at FSU's MIS degree. The cost is $423.53 per credit hour. Add in books, and you're looking at maybe $1500 per class. It looks like 11 classes are required, for a cost of $16,500. Not too horrible. Plus, you get a tax break on tuition costs. John From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? Good view of it. Looking at Masters in IT/Information Science also, but borrowing like 40-60K at 8% just to get through the course, and taking Graduate Placement Exams ( MCAT? MCAP) doesn't thrill me either. I got enough real-world experience, to breeze through possibly ¼ to ½ the cirrcumlum for the MSIT degree ( CISSP at most accredited colleges will count for about 12-15 credits towards the Masters, which helps get the degree quicker) True: Running the certification rat-race does get boring after a while, but in IT its basically the Icing on the cake in my eyes, doing the jobs, getting the experience is really what it comes down to. And hell my undergrad was in Mechnical Engineering, wish they had the IT Degrees back in my day in college, all they had was CIS ( Coding, which I loathe) Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I've got a young woman (early 20's) working for me as a PC technician. The position requires A+ and Network+ certifications, which she has. She was commenting earlier this week that very little of what she learned in the certification process has helped her out in the field. The things you come across in the real world just can't be duplicate in books. That's not to say that certification is useless, but we all know that certs alone aren't worth much. I've got over 10 years of experience, and the only certs I have are A+, Net+, and I-Net+. When I found myself with time to study, I didn't go for more certs-I finished my Bachelor's degree (I had dropped out of college as a junior, having already earned my AA). The next step for me is a Master's; I'd rather spend my time and energy on that than certs. Certs have a limited shelf life, but degrees are forever. After the Master's, I may look into additional certs. But that will be a few years. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I can see where you are coming from, I find myself at this familiar cross-roads. It seems that re-certification is necessary evil now, but probably going the SSCP/CISSP ISC2 route because its vendor/neutral and it really peaks my interest, and never gets boring. Plus it doesn't pigeonhole me into supporting one OS over another or one technology over another. But honestly, experience is the best teacher. How many times I have sat in a class, and you knew the professor didn't have much real-world experience, and basically was teaching you the theory of how things are supposed to go, which we both know doesn't always work out to what it really does, when you get down to it. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? The time to study + the time to commit to hands on related work that may intefere with studying for a masters/phd.. I've thought about pursuing one or the other but the current work load just allow time. Of course there's also part-time and/or online schooling as an option. I'd say it could depend on just how much you're looking to get out of the classes and whether you function better in a classroom or working from home. Having the 2000/2003 MS certs I'm now having to consider tackling the 2008 certs or make the jump to another industry platform like Cisco. Talk about wanting to pull the covers back over my head! At this stage in my life I've come to the conclusion that I won't become rich or wealthy working in this field unless I stumble across a nice patent. I believe in the glass ceiling and that you can max out if you're not constantly working to stay educated in some capacity. My fear is the same I had when I was in college and that was that my real world experiences were educating me a lot better than the classroom subject matter. So I figure to work
RE: HTML Desktop Background in Vista
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Desktop Bob Fronk From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: HTML Desktop Background in Vista Can someone also confirm if Microsoft removed Active Desktop from Vista? I have a webpage that we used as a wallpaper that does not show up on Vista but works fine on XP, pushed through GPO. I wonder if MS replaced it with the sidebar gadgets? -Z.V. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Davis H. Elliot Company company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Internet Connectivity
Yep. Gateway checks out. I'm going to un-install and re-install the drivers and see where that gets me. -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 13:26 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity Seen that a couple of times, both times was a root kit, and I ended up blowing away the computer and reloading from scratch. That was quicker than trying to figure it out. Especially if the guy is like you said. However did you check his gateway settings to make sure they are still correct? -Original Message- From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity As much as a want to slap the guy, I can't. Want to, but can't. This particular user is an a-hole, and personally, doesn't need the internet here. All I've seen him do it add viruses to the network, download illegal music, and keep near-porn wallpaper on his computer. I'm not really trying TOO hard to fix it, but it does have me stumped. It's XP Pro. No firewall. Nslookup is normal, tried the normal bootup, I'll go check the logs (as that seems to have slipped my mind here.) Chris From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:59 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Internet Connectivity A little more information Christopher. Vista, XP, Mac, Linux? What have you done to fix the problem? Stop firewall? Ran NBTStat, nslookup, etc. Slap the user in the face and ask WTF did you do? There are logs that was generated. Look at the logs and come tell us again. -Z.V. From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Internet Connectivity I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out... any ideas? Chris ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Question about Terminal Server - Security and Performance
I was hoping to get some opinions on this from both views. Let's say we have a software program similiar to a Helpdesk program, except that many other departments can use it for their purpose. This software has 3 parts, the SQL backend, the server front end, and the client software. Well my colleague has suggested placing the SQL backend, the server front end and the client on the same beefy server and allow users to RDP into that box to access the client. I have opposed this idea and stated we should have the SQL Backend and the server front end on that beefy box and then the client should be on a seperate terminal server box that the users can connect to. My argument was that there is a security issue with allowing users to RDP into the same box as the server front end and SQL back end. His argument is that performance will be better. Can anyone validate or strengthen my claim or his claim? We are going to have a debate about this. Best Regards, Phil ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Internet Connectivity
On Feb 7, 2008 1:43 PM, Christopher J. Bosak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: internet will not work Define internet will not work. Just MSIE, anything using IP, something else? Error messages? Can you reach LAN systems with IP protocols? Got a LAN webserver you can check? Can't even ping out. Define can't ping. Is PING.EXE missing? Won't execute? Runs but gives an error message? If so, what is the message? Have you tried pinging by IP address as well as names? Have you tried pinging more than one host? Can you ping the default gateway? Can you ping other LAN hosts? Check the output of IPCONFIG /ALL and ROUTE PRINT for correctness. Compare to a working system on the same LAN. Does NSLOOKUP www.google.com come back with a correct IP address? All I've seen him do it add viruses to the network, download illegal music, and keep near-porn wallpaper on his computer. Does the user have admin rights to the PC? (If so, you're probably doomed.) -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Yahoo login disabled
I have a new user who has already managed to screw something up. Brand new build, everything worked great, but he's done something now in IE6 which is preventing login to anyone's Yahoo account. The login page comes up, you can put in credentials, but it just bounces back to the login page doesn't take the credentials. He confirms the Yahoo login worked when he first got there. Only thing I can identify that he's done is downloaded Google Desktop, he claims he hasn't downloaded anything else. I've not been able to find anything on Google that helps. I've reinstalled the latest Java build, made sure pop-ups are not blocked, swept for malware, and loosened permissions in IE. I can work around it by loading Firefox on his machine, but does anyone have an idea for what this luser has done to his machine? Thanks, David ___ The information contained in this E-mail message, including any attached files transmitted, is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the sole use of the individual(s) named above. If you are the intended recipient, be aware that your use of any confidential or personal information may be restricted by state and federal privacy laws. If you, the reader of this message, are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you should not further disseminate, distribute or forward this E-mail message. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the material from your computer system. This message is provided for information purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments in any jurisdiction. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: software to monitor users login and logoff
Funny, I had a client ask the same thing yesterday. Must be an article somewhere they are reading. I haven't found anything eloquent quite yet. The problem I see is what if the person doesn't log off the computer? For this case it is to track a part-time employee's hours that may or may not be set hours. Art From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: software to monitor users login and logoff I have auditing set on the dc and can see that information. but the executive admin, wants the receptionist to see when user A logs in, (sort of spying you know, the backdoor person) then user A logs off at schedule time. I'm going to keep searching so when I find something in those lines, I'll post it back up joe. Thomas _ From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: software to monitor users login and logoff I asked pretty much the same question a few days ago. The answer I got was to add a few lines to their login script, to send the date/time of logins to a .txt file wherever you want it. Joe Heaton _ From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: software to monitor users login and logoff Ok, so another question comes up, as if though I don't have other items on my plate. Has anyone used an application that would perform the following task: 1.User logs into network 2.One centralized workstation records and informs you when they login and logoff, with a GUI? I'm googling and see some cool stuff, but it's not what the CIO is requesting. I appreciate your responses. TIA, Thomas Gonzalez Technology Manager Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas 210.349.2404 phone 210.403.1586 DID 210.349.2666 fax www.girlscouts-swtx.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Yahoo login disabled
Not having a user able to log in to Yahoo is a bad thing Painstakingly sent to you from my Blackberry. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thu Feb 07 17:46:46 2008 Subject: Yahoo login disabled I have a new user who has already managed to screw something up. Brand new build, everything worked great, but he's done something now in IE6 which is preventing login to anyone's Yahoo account. The login page comes up, you can put in credentials, but it just bounces back to the login page doesn't take the credentials. He confirms the Yahoo login worked when he first got there. Only thing I can identify that he's done is downloaded Google Desktop, he claims he hasn't downloaded anything else. I've not been able to find anything on Google that helps. I've reinstalled the latest Java build, made sure pop-ups are not blocked, swept for malware, and loosened permissions in IE. I can work around it by loading Firefox on his machine, but does anyone have an idea for what this luser has done to his machine? Thanks, David __ The information contained in this E-mail message, including any attached files transmitted, is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the sole use of the individual(s) named above. If you are the intended recipient, be aware that your use of any confidential or personal information may be restricted by state and federal privacy laws. If you, the reader of this message, are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you should not further disseminate, distribute or forward this E-mail message. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the material from your computer system. This message is provided for information purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments in any jurisdiction. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: software to monitor users login and logoff
That's exactly what they are tracking...our non-exempt employees. Especially the satellite office which has a combo of non and exempt staff. But for some reason, no one ever answers the phone over there :-) Thomas From: Art DeKneef [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: software to monitor users login and logoff Funny, I had a client ask the same thing yesterday. Must be an article somewhere they are reading. I haven't found anything eloquent quite yet. The problem I see is what if the person doesn't log off the computer? For this case it is to track a part-time employee's hours that may or may not be set hours. Art From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: software to monitor users login and logoff I have auditing set on the dc and can see that information. but the executive admin, wants the receptionist to see when user A logs in, (sort of spying you know, the backdoor person) then user A logs off at schedule time. I'm going to keep searching so when I find something in those lines, I'll post it back up joe. Thomas From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: software to monitor users login and logoff I asked pretty much the same question a few days ago. The answer I got was to add a few lines to their login script, to send the date/time of logins to a .txt file wherever you want it. Joe Heaton From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: software to monitor users login and logoff Ok, so another question comes up, as if though I don't have other items on my plate. Has anyone used an application that would perform the following task: 1.User logs into network 2.One centralized workstation records and informs you when they login and logoff, with a GUI? I'm googling and see some cool stuff, but it's not what the CIO is requesting. I appreciate your responses. TIA, Thomas Gonzalez Technology Manager Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas 210.349.2404 phone 210.403.1586 DID 210.349.2666 fax www.girlscouts-swtx.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
HTML Desktop Background in Vista
Can someone also confirm if Microsoft removed Active Desktop from Vista? I have a webpage that we used as a wallpaper that does not show up on Vista but works fine on XP, pushed through GPO. I wonder if MS replaced it with the sidebar gadgets? -Z.V. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Remote Desktop strangeness
On Feb 7, 2008 2:13 PM, Joe Heaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That actually worked. Hit the Windows key and typing works again. Another weird MS feature I guess... Sometimes the keyboard controller on the motherboard can get confused. I see this most often with shift bits getting stuck (shift bits being the [CTRL], [ALT], and [SHIFT] keys). Since the Windows key is functionality equivalent to [CTRL]+[ESC], it might be that. When it happens, rapidly cycling all six of the various shift keys (several times a second, using both hands) usually clears it, for me. -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Internet Connectivity
I've had a few machines over the last year or two where everything seemed to be set up correctly, even ran the internet wizard again and nothing would work until I uninstalled the NIC and then re-installed it. FWIW. It hasn't happened often enough to dig into the why - just fix it and move on. On Feb 7, 2008 1:51 PM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check the hosts file? WinSock Repair? Dial-a-fix? -- *From:* Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:43 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Internet Connectivity I have a user on the network, that for no explainable reason, cannot get onto the internet. He can see the network devices, the network itself, and has no connectivity issues locally, but internet will not work. Can't even ping out. It was working fine until lunch, then died. All the settings check out… any ideas? Chris ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: HTML Desktop Background in Vista
Correct. No active desktop. From: Za Vue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 14:53 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: HTML Desktop Background in Vista Can someone also confirm if Microsoft removed Active Desktop from Vista? I have a webpage that we used as a wallpaper that does not show up on Vista but works fine on XP, pushed through GPO. I wonder if MS replaced it with the sidebar gadgets? -Z.V. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: software to monitor users login and logoff
Can you modify the logon script to send a pop-up message to the receptionist using the Net Send command? Does the user actually log off or simply lock the screen and walk away? Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 To write with a broken pencil is pointless. From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: software to monitor users login and logoff I have auditing set on the dc and can see that information. but the executive admin, wants the receptionist to see when user A logs in, (sort of spying you know, the backdoor person) then user A logs off at schedule time. I'm going to keep searching so when I find something in those lines, I'll post it back up joe. Thomas _ From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: software to monitor users login and logoff I asked pretty much the same question a few days ago. The answer I got was to add a few lines to their login script, to send the date/time of logins to a .txt file wherever you want it. Joe Heaton _ From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: software to monitor users login and logoff Ok, so another question comes up, as if though I don't have other items on my plate. Has anyone used an application that would perform the following task: 1.User logs into network 2.One centralized workstation records and informs you when they login and logoff, with a GUI? I'm googling and see some cool stuff, but it's not what the CIO is requesting. I appreciate your responses. TIA, Thomas Gonzalez Technology Manager Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas 210.349.2404 phone 210.403.1586 DID 210.349.2666 fax HYPERLINK http://www.girlscouts-swtx.orgwww.girlscouts-swtx.org HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: ms forefront?
That's what I'm a bit confused by, there is a client, server and exchange, sharepoint and the CIO wants to get rid of the existing products and go one solution. Is that feasible? Has there been a proven track that the product works against an outbreak or so forth? Thomas From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ms forefront? Which part of Forefront are you considering? There is Forefront for Clients, for Exchange, for SharePoint and for other things that I'm sure I'm not thinking of right now. I use Forefront on my Exchange 2007 servers and like it very much so far. Works great and you can't beat the price. Tim From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: ms forefront? Does anyone have any experience with MS Forefront? Any caveats to this product? The CIO brought this up in a meeting and questioned the use in our environment for this app. However, I have no experience or knowledge and thought I asked the list on this product. TIA Thomas ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Remote Desktop strangeness
I've seen something like this once when there was a keyboard issue on the remote server's side. In our case, someone was putting something down on the keyboard. -Bonnie From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Remote Desktop strangeness No, but it doesn't do it when working on my own computer, just randomly during RDP sessions... Joe Heaton From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: R: Remote Desktop strangeness Did you try to change your keyboard? GuidoElia HELPPC Da: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: giovedì 7 febbraio 2008 18.07 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: Remote Desktop strangeness About once or twice a day, I get strange happenings with Remote Desktop sessions I have running. 1) I will have a window open, and start typing, and the session reacts as if I have the Windows key pressed. i.e. typing the letter e opens a Windows Explorer window, typing l will lock the desktop, etc. 2) The other issue, is if the session goes to sleep due to inactivity, and I try to put in my password to unlock it, it won't accept my password, saying it's incorrect, which kind of makes me think that it is still acting as if the Windows key is pressed, and I'm inputting incorrect keystrokes. Anyone ever see this before? It doesn't happen in every RDP session, but it is quickly becoming very annoying. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: ms forefront?
The Exchange Server component, or the client component? We started migrating to Forefront Client Security here over the summer, replacing Symantec Anti Virus Corporate Edition. The price was right (MS pricing is very competitive in the education sector), and I liked the fact that FCS could be updated using the update infrastructure we already have in place (WSUS). We haven't run into any problems so far, and have put it on 240 of our ~2,000 workstations. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: ms forefront? Does anyone have any experience with MS Forefront? Any caveats to this product? The CIO brought this up in a meeting and questioned the use in our environment for this app. However, I have no experience or knowledge and thought I asked the list on this product. TIA Thomas ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Black blocks appearing on TS connections
Used to see this back in the Win3.x/9x days when video memory was low. Not sure in this case if that would be your clients or the TS servers, but maybe start with looking at memory? -Bonnie From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Black blocks appearing on TS connections Hi chaps, We have been hit with a spate of reports of black blocks appearing on users terminal server connections. We have two TS boxes, both the same, both running 2003. The last few days have caused users to see black blocks on the screen, sometimes in place of toolbar icons, sometimes covering entire windows. There doesn't seem to be an pattern, happens on multiple machines, over two servers etc. My worry is that it's going to be down a hardware fault or something. Anyone seen anything like this before? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Time oddity
Net time /setsntp:servername S From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time oddity I haven't come across a way to configure this to point to the correct server? Is it possible to manage this or should I somehow try to ignore it? thanks On 2/7/08, Free, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep- Net Time uses the old LanMan NetTOD API calls and searches the browse list for a system advertising the TS flag. No NTP or SNTP involved. The only thing Net Time has to do with NTP is that it can query or set the HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\Parameters\NTPServer value in the registry -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time oddity On Feb 6, 2008 4:30 PM, MarvinC [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I type net time from the command prompt I get current time at \\myIndiaDC is 4:24pm and local time (GMT +05:30) at \\myIndiaDC is 2/7/2008 2:53 AM. I believe using just NET TIME doesn't use NTP; rather, it uses whatever mechanism NTLM SMB has for time server location. Probably a browser master or NTLM logon server or something. Active Directory doesn't use those mechanisms, so this is something of a leftover. -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
OT: ms forefront?
Does anyone have any experience with MS Forefront? Any caveats to this product? The CIO brought this up in a meeting and questioned the use in our environment for this app. However, I have no experience or knowledge and thought I asked the list on this product. TIA Thomas ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: users file storage on C drives
Really easy to use GPO to redirect the user's documents folder. We have their profile create their home directory, and a GPO redirect their My Documents to their home directory. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: users file storage on C drives Thanks for the replies guys. I am going to look into what you guys sugested and see what works best. I guess the GPO options will be what I need. Thanks, James - Original Message - From: Miller Bonnie L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: RE: users file storage on C drives Windows Server 2003 R2, File Server Resource Manager. Look at the options for File Screens, which block saving of file types based on extensions. Does not keep them from renaming, but they can't run it directly from the server with the real extension type. Would take some extra privs on the client pcs to get around this. -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: users file storage on C drives We do not allow staff to store data anywhere but on the servers but every few months I have to go and look in peoples my docs folder or their desktop and find a bunch a crap that shouldn't be there. How do you guys manage this? I was thinking maybe I would add some lines to the logon scripts that would delete certain file types from these folders. Any thoughts? James ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
R: Remote Desktop strangeness
Did you try to change your keyboard? GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: giovedì 7 febbraio 2008 18.07 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: Remote Desktop strangeness About once or twice a day, I get strange happenings with Remote Desktop sessions I have running. 1) I will have a window open, and start typing, and the session reacts as if I have the Windows key pressed. i.e. typing the letter e opens a Windows Explorer window, typing l will lock the desktop, etc. 2) The other issue, is if the session goes to sleep due to inactivity, and I try to put in my password to unlock it, it won't accept my password, saying it's incorrect, which kind of makes me think that it is still acting as if the Windows key is pressed, and I'm inputting incorrect keystrokes. Anyone ever see this before? It doesn't happen in every RDP session, but it is quickly becoming very annoying. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: software to monitor users login and logoff
Check out poweradmin it is free to monitor the event viewer. You can setup audit and power admin will even email when someone logs in or out. We use for monitoring off-hours access via term serv. /Chad lt-software.com, Thomas Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have auditing set on the dc and can see that information. but the executive admin, wants the receptionist to see when user A logs in, (sort of spying you know, the backdoor person) then user A logs off at schedule time. I'm going to keep searching so when I find something in those lines, I'll post it back up joe. Thomas From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: software to monitor users login and logoff I asked pretty much the same question a few days ago. The answer I got was to add a few lines to their login script, to send the date/time of logins to a .txt file wherever you want it. Joe Heaton From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: software to monitor users login and logoff Ok, so another question comes up, as if though I don't have other items on my plate. Has anyone used an application that would perform the following task: 1.User logs into network 2.One centralized workstation records and informs you when they login and logoff, with a GUI? I'm googling and see some cool stuff, but it's not what the CIO is requesting. I appreciate your responses. TIA, Thomas Gonzalez Technology Manager Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas 210.349.2404 phone 210.403.1586 DID 210.349.2666 fax www.girlscouts-swtx.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ `ç(* CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: The information contained in this transmission is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, do not read it. Please immediately reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error and then delete it. Thank you. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: users file storage on C drives
Thanks for the replies guys. I am going to look into what you guys sugested and see what works best. I guess the GPO options will be what I need. Thanks, James - Original Message - From: Miller Bonnie L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: RE: users file storage on C drives Windows Server 2003 R2, File Server Resource Manager. Look at the options for File Screens, which block saving of file types based on extensions. Does not keep them from renaming, but they can't run it directly from the server with the real extension type. Would take some extra privs on the client pcs to get around this. -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: users file storage on C drives We do not allow staff to store data anywhere but on the servers but every few months I have to go and look in peoples my docs folder or their desktop and find a bunch a crap that shouldn't be there. How do you guys manage this? I was thinking maybe I would add some lines to the logon scripts that would delete certain file types from these folders. Any thoughts? James ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: PPTP connections and lack of ping
Were the SP's installed in the correct order. And were all the relevent SP's installed? S -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PPTP connections and lack of ping I've got a problem with an SBS box here. It's been setup for VPN access for a while, but mysteriously seems to have stopped working for vpn clients. I have a feeling this is down to SP2 being installed a month or so ago, but I can't be sure and it's just a guess. I can connect to the box from my vista machine, and my machine is assigned an IP address from the DHCP pool on the server as well as a DNS address of the SBS box itself. However the laptop isn't assigned a gateway address. While connected to the VPN I can't do a thing, not even ping the servers internal IP (comes up 'request timed out'). I can't see anywhere in Vista to manually set a gateway address. I also know that other vista and mac users are having the same thing happen (connected but not able to anything). Anyone know what might be up ? Could it be an SP2 issue ? Olly ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
Me 3! TVK From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I figured you liked to Beat on the drums, as did I back in my childhood days. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I'll one up you, Z. My undergrad is in music (Percussion). Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? Good view of it. Looking at Masters in IT/Information Science also, but borrowing like 40-60K at 8% just to get through the course, and taking Graduate Placement Exams ( MCAT? MCAP) doesn't thrill me either. I got enough real-world experience, to breeze through possibly ¼ to ½ the cirrcumlum for the MSIT degree ( CISSP at most accredited colleges will count for about 12-15 credits towards the Masters, which helps get the degree quicker) True: Running the certification rat-race does get boring after a while, but in IT its basically the Icing on the cake in my eyes, doing the jobs, getting the experience is really what it comes down to. And hell my undergrad was in Mechnical Engineering, wish they had the IT Degrees back in my day in college, all they had was CIS ( Coding, which I loathe) Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I've got a young woman (early 20's) working for me as a PC technician. The position requires A+ and Network+ certifications, which she has. She was commenting earlier this week that very little of what she learned in the certification process has helped her out in the field. The things you come across in the real world just can't be duplicate in books. That's not to say that certification is useless, but we all know that certs alone aren't worth much. I've got over 10 years of experience, and the only certs I have are A+, Net+, and I-Net+. When I found myself with time to study, I didn't go for more certs-I finished my Bachelor's degree (I had dropped out of college as a junior, having already earned my AA). The next step for me is a Master's; I'd rather spend my time and energy on that than certs. Certs have a limited shelf life, but degrees are forever. After the Master's, I may look into additional certs. But that will be a few years. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I can see where you are coming from, I find myself at this familiar cross-roads. It seems that re-certification is necessary evil now, but probably going the SSCP/CISSP ISC2 route because its vendor/neutral and it really peaks my interest, and never gets boring. Plus it doesn't pigeonhole me into supporting one OS over another or one technology over another. But honestly, experience is the best teacher. How many times I have sat in a class, and you knew the professor didn't have much real-world experience, and basically was teaching you the theory of how things are supposed to go, which we both know doesn't always work out to what it really does, when you get down to it. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? The time to study + the time to commit to hands on related work that may intefere with studying for a masters/phd.. I've thought about pursuing one or the other but the current work load just allow time. Of course there's also part-time and/or online schooling as an option. I'd say it could depend on just how much you're looking to get out of the classes and whether you function better in a classroom or working from home. Having the 2000/2003 MS certs I'm now having to consider tackling the 2008 certs or make the jump to another industry platform like Cisco. Talk about wanting to pull the covers back over my head! At this
RE: Certs + Experience + which degree?
It is really an apples and oranges kind of comparison. What about the question of a 1 year old cert or a 20 year old degree? Because that is what will usually end up happening in the real world. A big part of the equation is whether your long term goals are to be a people manager or a technology manager. People managers will find an MBA much more useful down the road than a manager of technology. The technologist will generally find the certification much more valuable in the long run. YMMV, Tim From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I hear what you're saying, but when most employers want to hire people with a degree, they don't care when that degree was earned. There are very few jobs where it matters whether the degree was earned a month ago or a decade ago-all that matters is that the degree was earned. If I had to choose, I'd rather have a ten-year-old college degree than a ten-year-old certification. Of course, in a perfect world, one would have both degrees and up-to-date certs. John From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? Hey John, I am in a similar situation as you however I disagree with your statement that degrees are forever. An AA or Bachelors Degree only shows you have invested more time in yourself to gain insight into a specific field of study and/or proves you have a higher level of education in the basics such as English, Math etc. A degree is basically the same as any certification. It only shows you have invested more time in getting to know the basics of a specific field of study. Even Professors have to continue their studies as new discoveries are made to keep up with the changing times. My 2 (Uneducated) Cents, Tom From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I've got a young woman (early 20's) working for me as a PC technician. The position requires A+ and Network+ certifications, which she has. She was commenting earlier this week that very little of what she learned in the certification process has helped her out in the field. The things you come across in the real world just can't be duplicate in books. That's not to say that certification is useless, but we all know that certs alone aren't worth much. I've got over 10 years of experience, and the only certs I have are A+, Net+, and I-Net+. When I found myself with time to study, I didn't go for more certs-I finished my Bachelor's degree (I had dropped out of college as a junior, having already earned my AA). The next step for me is a Master's; I'd rather spend my time and energy on that than certs. Certs have a limited shelf life, but degrees are forever. After the Master's, I may look into additional certs. But that will be a few years. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? I can see where you are coming from, I find myself at this familiar cross-roads. It seems that re-certification is necessary evil now, but probably going the SSCP/CISSP ISC2 route because its vendor/neutral and it really peaks my interest, and never gets boring. Plus it doesn't pigeonhole me into supporting one OS over another or one technology over another. But honestly, experience is the best teacher. How many times I have sat in a class, and you knew the professor didn't have much real-world experience, and basically was teaching you the theory of how things are supposed to go, which we both know doesn't always work out to what it really does, when you get down to it. Z Edward E. Ziots Netwok Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? The time to study + the time to commit to hands on related work that may intefere with studying for a masters/phd.. I've thought about pursuing one or the other but the current work load just allow time. Of course there's also part-time and/or online schooling as an option. I'd say it could depend on just how much you're looking to get out of the classes and whether you function better in a classroom or working from home. Having the 2000/2003 MS certs I'm now having to consider tackling the 2008 certs or
