RE: I Need a Good ASP.NET User Group

[Ken Schaefer]

www.asp.net (web based forum)

www.developmentor.com (email based lists for 
ASP.NET and also various .NET based languages etc)

www.aspadvice.com (email lists)

news://msnews.microsoft.com (newsgroups)

Pick your flavour :-)

Cheers
Ken


From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2008 2:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: I Need a Good ASP.NET User Group

I was hoping for a freebie / active user group.

thanks though.

Andy Crellin wrote:
I've often found Experts Exchange pretty good, but it's not specific. 
www.experts-exchange.com


Andy Crellin
Technical Services Manager
Leonard Cheshire Disability
Telephone: 01904 479200
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2008 16:48
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: I Need a Good ASP.NET User Group

It's been a while since I have needed a good ASP.NET user group, but I have hit 
a wall on a project and need some pointers.

Does anyone know of a good list?  The one I used a few years ago is no longer 
active.

Klint




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Re: ISA internally

[Steven Peck]

Get the vendor supplied documentation / contract indicating that it is
in fact a private network.

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:05 AM, David W. McSpadden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I could tell them to pound sand and they could also write us up so we loose
> our sponsorship with the NCUA.
> Which they have been doing a lot of this year.
> I understand that the MPLS is a private encrypted network on the public
> Internet.  But the Auditor doesn't get it.
> All he gets is that the data stream goes out of my SQL box across a router,
> that I do not maintain and have no way of knowing what sniffing is going on
> with it, to anouther router of which they both reside on the Internet.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Kirk Woloshyn
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: ISA internally
> If you are on an MPLS network wouldn't that be a private network that does
> not hit the internet? Most service providers have customer networks separate
> from their internet traffic. You would be going over the internet for a
> remote user working from home but should be private internally. Check with
> your provider - maybe you can tell the auditor to pound sand...
>
> Kirk Woloshyn
> 2825 Temple Avenue
> Signal Hill, CA 90755
>
> v 562.304.1939
> c 562.682.0261
>
> David W. McSpadden wrote:
>
> We are on an MPLS network.  We are a financial institution.  We have jackass
> auditors that want written that even though it it passing over the public
> network (Internet) the member data is secure from endpoint to endpoint.
> They only way that can be assured this is true is if we are managing
> something like a firewall on each LAN because the routers are managed by the
> ISP (AT&T).  I have CISCO Switches I am exploring MAC address ACL's but I
> want to also explore Windows options and I have 2003 member servers at each
> LAN endpoint that do nothing more than some print and file sharing.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Don Ely
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: ISA internally
> What is the objective?
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:25 AM, David W. McSpadden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> What would it hurt to have an ISA server at each branch location inside a
>> Private WAN?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Data Security is everyone's responsibility.
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RE: [OL2007] Recovering emails from permanently deleting.

[Carl Houseman]

Too little background info.  Are we talking about 

(a) Exchange server environment with Exchange server mailbox storage?
(b) Exchange server environment with PST mailbox storage?
(c) No Exchange server and PST mailbox storage?

If you said

(a) or (b)  Re-post to the Exchange list here.

(b) or (c)  Perhaps, with recovery software that scavenges PSTs.
Google "PST recovery".

Carl

-Original Message-
From: TS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OL2007] Recovering emails from permanently deleting.

Hello all,

I was wondering if it is possible to recover emails from permanently
deleting items from the Deleted Items folder in Outlook 2007.

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[OL2007] Recovering emails from permanently deleting.

[TS]

Hello all,

I was wondering if it is possible to recover emails from permanently
deleting items from the Deleted Items folder in Outlook 2007.

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Re: ISA internally

[Silvio L. Nisgoski]

Can´t you create a VPN connection between these remote locations?

  - Original Message - 
  From: David W. McSpadden 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:05 PM
  Subject: Re: ISA internally


  I could tell them to pound sand and they could also write us up so we loose 
our sponsorship with the NCUA.
  Which they have been doing a lot of this year.
  I understand that the MPLS is a private encrypted network on the public 
Internet.  But the Auditor doesn't get it.
  All he gets is that the data stream goes out of my SQL box across a router, 
that I do not maintain and have no way of knowing what sniffing is going on 
with it, to anouther router of which they both reside on the Internet.

- Original Message - 
From: Kirk Woloshyn 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: ISA internally


If you are on an MPLS network wouldn't that be a private network that does 
not hit the internet? Most service providers have customer networks separate 
from their internet traffic. You would be going over the internet for a remote 
user working from home but should be private internally. Check with your 
provider - maybe you can tell the auditor to pound sand...

Kirk Woloshyn
2825 Temple Avenue
Signal Hill, CA 90755

v 562.304.1939
c 562.682.0261

David W. McSpadden wrote: 
  We are on an MPLS network.  We are a financial institution.  We have 
jackass auditors that want written that even though it it passing over the 
public network (Internet) the member data is secure from endpoint to endpoint.  
  They only way that can be assured this is true is if we are managing 
something like a firewall on each LAN because the routers are managed by the 
ISP (AT&T).  I have CISCO Switches I am exploring MAC address ACL's but I want 
to also explore Windows options and I have 2003 member servers at each LAN 
endpoint that do nothing more than some print and file sharing.

- Original Message - 
From: Don Ely 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: ISA internally


What is the objective?


On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:25 AM, David W. McSpadden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

  What would it hurt to have an ISA server at each branch location 
inside a Private WAN?




  Data Security is everyone's responsibility.






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VIPRE Enterprise beta software is available

[Alex Eckelberry]

If you're interested in Sunbelt's new antivirus + antispyware product
for the enterprise, Beta 1 of VIPRE Enterprise is now available.   

Please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put VIPRE
Enterprise (SVE) in the title in order to register for the beta.

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detection of all types of malware into a single efficient and powerful
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VIPRE Enterprise is designed to replace both your antivirus and
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Once you've registered for the beta, you will be given access to the
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as well as known issues, etc.  

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RE: moving from mixed to native w2k/3

[Free, Bob]

Functional Levels Background Information

http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/4a589ca2-b572-48c
d-94d2-7d5b0c817f411033.mspx?mfr=true

Many more articles at-

http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?mkt=en-CA&setlang=en-CA&q=domai
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From: Palmer, Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: moving from mixed to native w2k/3



Sorry, maybe I misread. For 2003 Native AD, yes we'll have DC's at 2003
too... but that's a step ahead of us. We need to switch to native on
2000 AD first. My concern is the NT server. Does anyone have a web link
or explanation of why it's okay to do it? My concern was NTLM.

 

Cheers


Neal

 



From: Palmer, Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 June 2008 14:26
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: moving from mixed to native w2k/3

 

Is that correct? What about this...

 

# Windows 2000 mixed mode (this is the default setting) << we are here

# Windows 2000 native mode<<
need to go here

# Windows 2003 interim mode   << and
keep going...

# Windows 2003 mode

 

http://searchexchange.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid43_gci1042173,00.ht
ml

 

?

 

Neal

 



From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 June 2008 14:00
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: moving from mixed to native w2k/3

 

Going to native Windows 2003 AD does not impact your non Windows 200X or
NT member servers. You have to have all DC's running Windows 2003.

 

Todd Lemmiksoo

 



From: Palmer, Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: moving from mixed to native w2k/3

Hi all,

 

I've been asked to look into moving from mixed to native mode for our
single domain/tree, multiple DC network, we're all 2000 SP4 or 2003 SP2
DC's. Nothing NT4 aside from one legacy application member server
serving an Oracle database and some file sharing for a renegade (i.e.
separately funded, politically protected) department. 

 

If we move to native, is this NT4 server still going to be
contactable/alive/working? I can't see anything on the web other than
concern about W2K clients that will have issues (e.g. group policy) in
the absence of W2K DC's (which we have anyway). Does NTLM Authentication
disappear, thus so does the NT4 server?

 

Excuse the rather old-hat nature of this question, I haven't been party
to infrastructure AD stuff for long, I guess we haven't changed over yet
because it's never been needed that badly.

 

Thanks

 

Neal

 

 

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RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

[Benjamin Zachary - Lists]

NO

 

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From: David Florea, SysAdmin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

 

Anyone got any experiences with Symantec Endpoint 11?  Just wondering if
it's any improvement or not.

 

Thanks,

 

David

 

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Re: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

[Sean Houston]

Luke,

The question I have is when you installed Endpoint did you install just the
anti-virus / anti-malware portion?  There are several different software
programs rolled into endpoint.  You probably installed the firewall software
portion too which will shut down a domain controller if not configured. Did
you install endpoint out of the box or with MR1 or MR2?

-Sean Houston

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Brumbaugh, Luke <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Tried add/remove and it just sits there "Gathering information"
>
> So I disabled all services for Symantec and rebooted.
>
> We can login now and have full functionality again.
>
> Now that I can breath, WTF.
>
> I have never had an antivirus shutdown a DC.  (But I used Trend, My boss
> wants Symantec)
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:04 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9
>
>
>
> You can remove it via Add / Remove Programs
>
> However the out-of-the-box policies for SEP are quite a pain and need to be
> tested thoroughly before deploying them. I can't find where it blocks
> editing of the hosts file, if anyone knows the location with the admin
> console I would be grateful (not to hijack your thread or anything)
>
>  2008/6/10 Brumbaugh, Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> When I logon to another pc remotely, no rpc available
>
> Users unable to logon,
>
> I disabled SEP and I can logon now.
>
> But can't remove it
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:37 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9
>
>
>
> Can you remotely connect to resources using your same accounts?  If so, you
> might be able to use psexec to see what is going on.
>
>
>
> -Bonnie
>
>
>
> *From:* Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:33 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Help! Microsoft won't open til 9
>
>
>
> I can get either of my domain controllers to accept a login.
>
> I have installed SEP earlier in the week.
>
> I have disabled but can't remove it.
>
> *Luke L. Brumbaugh*
>
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>
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>
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Re: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

SEP11 has been nothing but a headache - still to this day.  I have to
be sure and perform other software installs prior to its installation.

It can wreak havoc with CS3 and VS2005 - if you have all the SEP11
components installed and running.


On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Brumbaugh, Luke
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Installed on DC and lost all logon ability on network.
> SEP MR2
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:44 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?
>
> Dave,
>
> We installed this into test last week.  We haven't successfully
> completed  an encryption yet, but will later this week. (Endpoint
> Encryption Full Disk)
>
> During this process it has seemed like the product was not quite ready
> for show time.  We are pre-sale and our rep still had a hard time
> finding a support engineer for us when we had issues.  We ended up
> waiting a week and finally had a call-back scheduled.
>
> Our issue was running W2K3 sp2.  It requires sp1 but wont work on sp2
> until ADAM is updated.  We also found an error in the install manual
> concerning the ADAM instance name, it MUST match the install docs, even
> though they say choose what you would like.
>
> On a positive note, deployment and configuration using group policy is
> very simple and makes sense if you have been using the GPMC for a while.
>
> Its still one of the only products for full disk encryption that doesn't
> require a format and works on XP, so we will continue to work it and
> push towards implementation on our external laptops.
>
>
> -troy
>
>
> From: David Florea, SysAdmin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:35 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?
>
> Anyone got any experiences with Symantec Endpoint 11?  Just wondering if
> it's any improvement or not.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
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RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

[Michael Ross]

Ive got it .. make sure you use MR2,.. it works great!

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

There's the Don we all know and love...

Heh.

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Don Ely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sucks donkey balls...
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:34 AM, David Florea, SysAdmin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone got any experiences with Symantec Endpoint 11?  Just wondering if
>> it's any improvement or not.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> David
>>
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Re: The Amazing Disappearing IP Addresses

[James Edwards]

Sherry Abercrombie wrote:
Have you actually successfully added it to the domain?  That should be 
first, before you try to make changes on the IP addresses




No, I have to change the DNS servers to find the domain controllers. the 
original DNS servers don't have the DC records. Actually, I "split brain 
DNS", keeping the original DNS servers but adding the domain DNS as 
primary and secondary. When that didn't work I completely removed the 
original (campus, notice my e-mail address is a ".edu" address) DNS 
servers and replaced them with the domain servers the original addresses 
promptly reappeared.


Jim

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RE: Executing programs from a login script

[Free, Bob]

The default location of NETLOGON should be something like
\SYSVOL\sysvol\example.com\SCRIPTS unless you changed it when you ran
dcpromo



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Executing programs from a login script



Miller Bonnie L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/10/2008
02:41:00 PM:

> I think you're thinking of the one where you copy it to the netlogon
> share.  Then, you can access it using syntax like: 
>   
> %0\..\ifmember.exe dostuff 

The NETLOGON share! That was what I was trying to think of  

> I've only tried this in the old-style logon scripts (assigned on the
> user accounts).  I think the %0\..\ means look in the current path, 

But what would the current path be? The current path of the workstation
executing the login script? 

> so maybe with a newer-style script you just put it in the same 
> location as the .bat/.cmd/.vbs file that runs it? 

I think the share name would be 

\\DC-Name\SYSVOL\DOMAIN-NAME\ 

Thanks for the reminder ... I'll poke at it a bit ... 


>   
> -Bonnie 
>   
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:51 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Executing programs from a login script 
>   
> 
> I know I should know the answer to this, but I'm old, and it's too 
> hot (it's 100F here in Philadelphia at the moment). Anyway, in my 
> Win2000 AD, I want to execute a login script for a particular OU. 
> And in this login script, I want to check group memberships and map 
> drive letters accordingly. Not being all that confident in VBscript,
> I was going to use the "IfMember" utility from the Resource Kit.  
> What I'm drawing a blank on is where to copy the utility so that it 
> is accessible at login time. I want to call it from the SYSVOL 
> share, don't I? Where would I copy the EXE to, what path, so that I 
> can execute it from the login script? 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> -- 
> Michael Leone
> Network Administrator, ISM
> Philadelphia Housing Authority
> 2500 Jackson St
> Philadelphia, PA 19145
> Tel:  215-684-4180
> Cell: 215-252-0143
>  
> 
> 

> 
> 

> 


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Re: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

[Kirk Woloshyn]

Spysweeper w/ AV from Webroot. I use it at home and in the office.
Great console for the office, smaller footprint, etc. Have it on 500+
PCs on the network and very low traffic for updates, etc.

Glen Johnson wrote:

  
  
  

  
  I
just removed the standalone client from a WXPsp3 PRO box at
home.
  Really
strange issue.
  Computer
was very sluggish with SEP installed.
  Task
manager showed 70 to 90 percent cpu usage on the graph, but
process list and system idle process showed 99 percent.
  Removed
SEP and system was back to normal.
  Same
results with version 11.0.2000.1567 and 11.0.2010.25
  I’m
looking for something to replace this piece of crap.
   
  
  
  From: David
Florea,
SysAdmin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:35 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?
  
  
   
  Anyone
got any experiences with Symantec Endpoint 11?  Just
wondering if it's any improvement or not.
   
  Thanks,
   
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RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

[Troy Meyer]

Joe and Sam,

Thanks for the suggestions, will check both out.  Obviously I am not the only 
one experiencing issues with this product.


...ahh Symantec, good salespeople, below average performance.  Too bad they 
have the IT director on speed dial.

-troy

-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

Troy,

If encryption is your goal, have you looked at GuardianEdge?  We use it
for our laptops, and it also does not require formatting the drive, and
will encrypt the entire disk.


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

Dave,

We installed this into test last week.  We haven't successfully
completed  an encryption yet, but will later this week. (Endpoint
Encryption Full Disk)

During this process it has seemed like the product was not quite ready
for show time.  We are pre-sale and our rep still had a hard time
finding a support engineer for us when we had issues.  We ended up
waiting a week and finally had a call-back scheduled.

Our issue was running W2K3 sp2.  It requires sp1 but wont work on sp2
until ADAM is updated.  We also found an error in the install manual
concerning the ADAM instance name, it MUST match the install docs, even
though they say choose what you would like.

On a positive note, deployment and configuration using group policy is
very simple and makes sense if you have been using the GPMC for a while.

Its still one of the only products for full disk encryption that doesn't
require a format and works on XP, so we will continue to work it and
push towards implementation on our external laptops.


-troy


From: David Florea, SysAdmin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

Anyone got any experiences with Symantec Endpoint 11?  Just wondering if
it's any improvement or not.

Thanks,

David

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Re: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

[Kurt Buff]

There's the Don we all know and love...

Heh.

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Don Ely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sucks donkey balls...
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:34 AM, David Florea, SysAdmin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone got any experiences with Symantec Endpoint 11?  Just wondering if
>> it's any improvement or not.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> David
>>
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RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

[Sam Cayze]

Or add to that encrypted hard drives themselves.  No reformat, but you
do have to clone the old to the new.

Just rolled out 10 of them so far.  Love em, and they are 7200 RPM.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/08/30/35TC-drive-encryption_1.html


 

-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

Troy,

If encryption is your goal, have you looked at GuardianEdge?  We use it
for our laptops, and it also does not require formatting the drive, and
will encrypt the entire disk. 


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

Dave,

We installed this into test last week.  We haven't successfully
completed  an encryption yet, but will later this week. (Endpoint
Encryption Full Disk)

During this process it has seemed like the product was not quite ready
for show time.  We are pre-sale and our rep still had a hard time
finding a support engineer for us when we had issues.  We ended up
waiting a week and finally had a call-back scheduled.

Our issue was running W2K3 sp2.  It requires sp1 but wont work on sp2
until ADAM is updated.  We also found an error in the install manual
concerning the ADAM instance name, it MUST match the install docs, even
though they say choose what you would like.

On a positive note, deployment and configuration using group policy is
very simple and makes sense if you have been using the GPMC for a while.

Its still one of the only products for full disk encryption that doesn't
require a format and works on XP, so we will continue to work it and
push towards implementation on our external laptops.


-troy


From: David Florea, SysAdmin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

Anyone got any experiences with Symantec Endpoint 11?  Just wondering if
it's any improvement or not.

Thanks,

David

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RE: Yet another login script question

[David Lum]

You have a GPO to tell XP to wait for the network before continuing? 

Computer config/admin templates/system/logon...Always wait for the
network at computer startup and logon

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by
riding the back of the tiger ended up inside"  - JFK

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Yet another login script question

 

I've moved a bunch of data from an old server to a new one. This data is
mapped as a drive to end users via a login script. When I test a
modified script using XP2 I need to reboot or run the script twice for
the new mapping to take effect. Any advice appreciated. Examples below.

Old script:

@echo off
net use /persistent:no
net use v: /delete /yes
net use v: \\oldserver\archive  

 

New script:

@echo off
net use /persistent:no 
NET USE V: /DELETE /yes
net use v: \\newserver\archive  

 

 

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Re: The Amazing Disappearing IP Addresses

[Sherry Abercrombie]

Have you actually successfully added it to the domain?  That should be
first, before you try to make changes on the IP addresses

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:29 PM, James Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Andy Shook wrote:
>
>> Are you hitting the 'apply' button?
>>
>>
>
> There is no "Apply" button, only "OK" and "Cancel". I've done this hundreds
> of times and this is the first time I've seen this.
>
>
> Jim
>
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Re: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

[Don Ely]

Sucks donkey balls...

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:34 AM, David Florea, SysAdmin <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Anyone got any experiences with Symantec Endpoint 11?  Just wondering if
> it's any improvement or not.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
>
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Re: The Amazing Disappearing IP Addresses

[James Edwards]

Andy Shook wrote:
Are you hitting the 'apply' button? 

  


There is no "Apply" button, only "OK" and "Cancel". I've done this 
hundreds of times and this is the first time I've seen this.


Jim

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RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

[Glen Johnson]

I just removed the standalone client from a WXPsp3 PRO box at home.

Really strange issue.

Computer was very sluggish with SEP installed.

Task manager showed 70 to 90 percent cpu usage on the graph, but process
list and system idle process showed 99 percent.

Removed SEP and system was back to normal.

Same results with version 11.0.2000.1567 and 11.0.2010.25

I'm looking for something to replace this piece of crap.

 

From: David Florea, SysAdmin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

 

Anyone got any experiences with Symantec Endpoint 11?  Just wondering if
it's any improvement or not.

 

Thanks,

 

David

 

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OT-wireless presentaion w/ Mac compatability

[wjh]

I need to find a  solution that would  allow a Mac to connect to a 
plasma or LCD display wirelessly.  My google-fu is falling short on 
this.  I ordered an infocus liteshow II, before I knew it needed to be 
mac-compatible.  Anyone have anyone using something like this 
successfully with a Mac?


Thanks.

Bill

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RE: Executing programs from a login script

[PETTERSEN.MARK_R]

If I recall correctly for OLD style (batch and command), the Environmental
Variable for the Domain Controller system granting logon rights via logon
is LOGONSERVER...so you can use:
 
%LOGONSERVER%\FOLDER\IFMEMBER.EXE

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RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

[Joe Heaton]

Troy,

If encryption is your goal, have you looked at GuardianEdge?  We use it
for our laptops, and it also does not require formatting the drive, and
will encrypt the entire disk. 


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

Dave,

We installed this into test last week.  We haven't successfully
completed  an encryption yet, but will later this week. (Endpoint
Encryption Full Disk)

During this process it has seemed like the product was not quite ready
for show time.  We are pre-sale and our rep still had a hard time
finding a support engineer for us when we had issues.  We ended up
waiting a week and finally had a call-back scheduled.

Our issue was running W2K3 sp2.  It requires sp1 but wont work on sp2
until ADAM is updated.  We also found an error in the install manual
concerning the ADAM instance name, it MUST match the install docs, even
though they say choose what you would like.

On a positive note, deployment and configuration using group policy is
very simple and makes sense if you have been using the GPMC for a while.

Its still one of the only products for full disk encryption that doesn't
require a format and works on XP, so we will continue to work it and
push towards implementation on our external laptops.


-troy


From: David Florea, SysAdmin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

Anyone got any experiences with Symantec Endpoint 11?  Just wondering if
it's any improvement or not.

Thanks,

David

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RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

[Brumbaugh, Luke]

Installed on DC and lost all logon ability on network.
SEP MR2

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

Dave,

We installed this into test last week.  We haven't successfully
completed  an encryption yet, but will later this week. (Endpoint
Encryption Full Disk)

During this process it has seemed like the product was not quite ready
for show time.  We are pre-sale and our rep still had a hard time
finding a support engineer for us when we had issues.  We ended up
waiting a week and finally had a call-back scheduled.

Our issue was running W2K3 sp2.  It requires sp1 but wont work on sp2
until ADAM is updated.  We also found an error in the install manual
concerning the ADAM instance name, it MUST match the install docs, even
though they say choose what you would like.

On a positive note, deployment and configuration using group policy is
very simple and makes sense if you have been using the GPMC for a while.

Its still one of the only products for full disk encryption that doesn't
require a format and works on XP, so we will continue to work it and
push towards implementation on our external laptops.


-troy


From: David Florea, SysAdmin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

Anyone got any experiences with Symantec Endpoint 11?  Just wondering if
it's any improvement or not.

Thanks,

David

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RE: Executing programs from a login script

[Michael . Leone]

Miller Bonnie L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/10/2008 
02:41:00 PM:

> I think you?re thinking of the one where you copy it to the netlogon
> share.  Then, you can access it using syntax like:
> 
> %0\..\ifmember.exe dostuff

The NETLOGON share! That was what I was trying to think of 

> I?ve only tried this in the old-style logon scripts (assigned on the
> user accounts).  I think the %0\..\ means look in the current path, 

But what would the current path be? The current path of the workstation 
executing the login script?

> so maybe with a newer-style script you just put it in the same 
> location as the .bat/.cmd/.vbs file that runs it?

I think the share name would be 

\\DC-Name\SYSVOL\DOMAIN-NAME\

Thanks for the reminder ... I'll poke at it a bit ...


> 
> -Bonnie
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:51 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Executing programs from a login script
> 
> 
> I know I should know the answer to this, but I'm old, and it's too 
> hot (it's 100F here in Philadelphia at the moment). Anyway, in my 
> Win2000 AD, I want to execute a login script for a particular OU. 
> And in this login script, I want to check group memberships and map 
> drive letters accordingly. Not being all that confident in VBscript,
> I was going to use the "IfMember" utility from the Resource Kit. 
> What I'm drawing a blank on is where to copy the utility so that it 
> is accessible at login time. I want to call it from the SYSVOL 
> share, don't I? Where would I copy the EXE to, what path, so that I 
> can execute it from the login script? 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> -- 
> Michael Leone
> Network Administrator, ISM
> Philadelphia Housing Authority
> 2500 Jackson St
> Philadelphia, PA 19145
> Tel:  215-684-4180
> Cell: 215-252-0143
> 
> 
> 

> 
> 

> 

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RE: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

[Troy Meyer]

Dave,

We installed this into test last week.  We haven't successfully completed  an 
encryption yet, but will later this week. (Endpoint Encryption Full Disk)

During this process it has seemed like the product was not quite ready for show 
time.  We are pre-sale and our rep still had a hard time finding a support 
engineer for us when we had issues.  We ended up waiting a week and finally had 
a call-back scheduled.

Our issue was running W2K3 sp2.  It requires sp1 but wont work on sp2 until 
ADAM is updated.  We also found an error in the install manual concerning the 
ADAM instance name, it MUST match the install docs, even though they say choose 
what you would like.

On a positive note, deployment and configuration using group policy is very 
simple and makes sense if you have been using the GPMC for a while.

Its still one of the only products for full disk encryption that doesn't 
require a format and works on XP, so we will continue to work it and push 
towards implementation on our external laptops.


-troy


From: David Florea, SysAdmin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

Anyone got any experiences with Symantec Endpoint 11?  Just wondering if it's 
any improvement or not.

Thanks,

David

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RE: The Amazing Disappearing IP Addresses

[Andy Shook]

Are you hitting the 'apply' button? 

Shook

-Original Message-
From: James Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: The Amazing Disappearing IP Addresses

I've got a Windows XPSP2 box I'm trying to add to my domain. When I go 
into the IP properties in Network and change the DNS srever addresses 
and close the dialog the addresses revert to the original addresses. For

example let's say the original addresses are "100.200.300.400" and 
100.200.500.600" and I change them to "100.200.400.300" and 
"100.200.600.700" then close the dialog and restart then open the dialog

the addresses shown are "100.200.300.400" and 100.200.500.600' I've 
never seen this before. Any ideas what's happening?

THANKS!!

Jim



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RE: Executing programs from a login script

[Michael . Leone]

"Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/10/2008 01:54:19 PM:

> Sounds like a good job for Kixtart (www.kixtart.org)

Perhaps. I'd rather just type in a share location and have it all work, 
rather than waiting to experiment and learn a new piece of software. Any 
idea of how to specify the location under the SYSVOL share name?

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The Amazing Disappearing IP Addresses

[James Edwards]

I've got a Windows XPSP2 box I'm trying to add to my domain. When I go 
into the IP properties in Network and change the DNS srever addresses 
and close the dialog the addresses revert to the original addresses. For 
example let's say the original addresses are "100.200.300.400" and 
100.200.500.600" and I change them to "100.200.400.300" and 
"100.200.600.700" then close the dialog and restart then open the dialog 
the addresses shown are "100.200.300.400" and 100.200.500.600' I've 
never seen this before. Any ideas what's happening?


THANKS!!

Jim



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RE: Executing programs from a login script

[Miller Bonnie L .]

I think you're thinking of the one where you copy it to the netlogon share.  
Then, you can access it using syntax like:

%0\..\ifmember.exe dostuff

I've only tried this in the old-style logon scripts (assigned on the user 
accounts).  I think the %0\..\ means look in the current path, so maybe with a 
newer-style script you just put it in the same location as the .bat/.cmd/.vbs 
file that runs it?

-Bonnie

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Executing programs from a login script


I know I should know the answer to this, but I'm old, and it's too hot (it's 
100F here in Philadelphia at the moment). Anyway, in my Win2000 AD, I want to 
execute a login script for a particular OU. And in this login script, I want to 
check group memberships and map drive letters accordingly. Not being all that 
confident in VBscript, I was going to use the "IfMember" utility from the 
Resource Kit.  What I'm drawing a blank on is where to copy the utility so that 
it is accessible at login time. I want to call it from the SYSVOL share, don't 
I? Where would I copy the EXE to, what path, so that I can execute it from the 
login script?

Thanks

--
Michael Leone
Network Administrator, ISM
Philadelphia Housing Authority
2500 Jackson St
Philadelphia, PA 19145
Tel:  215-684-4180
Cell: 215-252-0143


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Re: OT: Besuited cubicle monkey trashes office

[Sherry Abercrombie]

LOL, good one Angus, this just showed up on Foxnews.com.

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Happy Friday, y'all ...
>
> --- Included Stuff Follows ---
> Besuited cubicle monkey trashes office | The Register
>"Those among you who've ever been forced to work in a cubicle farm will
>certainly enjoy this CCTV footage of what happens when a suit reaches
>breaking point.
>
>... And here's the action from another angle, captured on a mobile
> phone.
>
>... Splendid. There are suspicions among sceptical netizens that this
>rampage may be a put-up, but if it is it's a pretty convincing one,
>especially the moment when the female co-worker cops the full force of a
>flying monitor. Decide for yourselves."
> - Included Stuff Ends -
> Videos here:
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/06/office_rampage/
>
>
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Symantec Endpoint -- does it work?

[David Florea, SysAdmin]

Anyone got any experiences with Symantec Endpoint 11?  Just wondering if
it's any improvement or not.
 
Thanks,
 
David
 

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Yet another login script question

[Chipshead]

I've moved a bunch of data from an old server to a new one. This data is mapped 
as a drive to end users via a login script. When I test a modified script using 
XP2 I need to reboot or run the script twice for the new mapping to take 
effect. Any advice appreciated. Examples below.
Old script:
@echo off
net use /persistent:no
net use v: /delete /yes
net use v: \\oldserver\archive

New script:
@echo off
net use /persistent:no 
NET USE V: /DELETE /yes
net use v: \\newserver\archive
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RE: W2008 Unattended Root CA Install

[Troy Meyer]

MMM.  Root CA without any touching at all... I wont even ask.

I don't know if you can, but this article talks about CLI install and building 
the XML for that, so at the very least you could script it.

http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/98051/q-how-do-i-use-the-command-line-to-install-windows-server-2008-roles-and-features.html

-troy

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: W2008 Unattended Root CA Install

Anyone know if this is possible?
I can see the role names, but how does one configure the options during install 
through the xml file?
Is it implied you set this up manually through the gui post install?

Thanks!
jlc




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RE: Executing programs from a login script

[Cameron]

Sounds like a good job for Kixtart (www.kixtart.org
 )

 

Cheers!

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Executing programs from a login script

 

 


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Executing programs from a login script

[Michael . Leone]

I know I should know the answer to this, but I'm old, and it's too hot 
(it's 100F here in Philadelphia at the moment). Anyway, in my Win2000 AD, 
I want to execute a login script for a particular OU. And in this login 
script, I want to check group memberships and map drive letters 
accordingly. Not being all that confident in VBscript, I was going to use 
the "IfMember" utility from the Resource Kit.  What I'm drawing a blank on 
is where to copy the utility so that it is accessible at login time. I 
want to call it from the SYSVOL share, don't I? Where would I copy the EXE 
to, what path, so that I can execute it from the login script?

Thanks

-- 
Michael Leone
Network Administrator, ISM
Philadelphia Housing Authority
2500 Jackson St
Philadelphia, PA 19145
Tel:  215-684-4180
Cell: 215-252-0143


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RE: I've *GOT* to share!!

[Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator]

Wonder if the woman still had her job upon her return??



From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: I've *GOT* to share!!


This reminds me of a situation about 30 years ago when I was in business
selling data terminal equipment. My business was in Chicago, and I had a
customer about 2 hours ride from Omaha. The customer had a lot of
electrical issues, and one enterprising lady used to unplug her terminal
on weekends to protect it from surges. She went on vacation and forgot
to tell someone that she unplugged the terminal. Come Monday, and I get
a call from the customer that their terminal is "dead". I didn't have a
technician anywhere near them, so it was agreed we'd "debug" over the
phone with their help. First we told them to check the fuse, and it was
OK. Then we asked if the terminal was plugged into the wall socket, and
it was. We were all at a loss, so they asked if I'd send a tech to fix
the terminal. I told them I'd have to fly a tech in from Chicago, and
they agreed to pay the airfare along with the rental car expense and our
service fee of $95. We sent the tech, and after he got there late in the
afternoon, he called to tell us that the electric cable was disconnected
at the terminal, but it was plugged into the wall. This was a terminal
with it's own built-in stand, and the electric cable was not hard wired,
but quick disconnect and connected UNDER the stand. The woman always
disconnected it at the terminal because it was too much trouble to
disconnect at the wall. The customer thanked us and paid the $800 plus
bill that we sent, with no questions asked. I hadn't thought about that
for about 30 years.
 
Thanks for the memories
 

Murray

 







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W2008 Unattended Root CA Install

[Joseph L. Casale]

Anyone know if this is possible?
I can see the role names, but how does one configure the options during install 
through the xml file?
Is it implied you set this up manually through the gui post install?

Thanks!
jlc

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RE: I've *GOT* to share!!

[David Lum]

Here's why I won't be rich off my fees from my personal business, I
would have a really hard time charging the customer the full amount. Yes
it was their fault, yes they agreed to pay the entire bill, yes you had
every right to collect all you were paid and yes, I don't know the other
details, but based on only the below my kneejerk response would be to
eat some of the cost, or at least drop the service fee if they've footed
everything else - for goodwill really.

 

Having said that, that is one crazy story!

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by
riding the back of the tiger ended up inside"  - JFK

 

 

 

From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: I've *GOT* to share!!

 

This reminds me of a situation about 30 years ago when I was in business
selling data terminal equipment. My business was in Chicago, and I had a
customer about 2 hours ride from Omaha. The customer had a lot of
electrical issues, and one enterprising lady used to unplug her terminal
on weekends to protect it from surges. She went on vacation and forgot
to tell someone that she unplugged the terminal. Come Monday, and I get
a call from the customer that their terminal is "dead". I didn't have a
technician anywhere near them, so it was agreed we'd "debug" over the
phone with their help. First we told them to check the fuse, and it was
OK. Then we asked if the terminal was plugged into the wall socket, and
it was. We were all at a loss, so they asked if I'd send a tech to fix
the terminal. I told them I'd have to fly a tech in from Chicago, and
they agreed to pay the airfare along with the rental car expense and our
service fee of $95. We sent the tech, and after he got there late in the
afternoon, he called to tell us that the electric cable was disconnected
at the terminal, but it was plugged into the wall. This was a terminal
with it's own built-in stand, and the electric cable was not hard wired,
but quick disconnect and connected UNDER the stand. The woman always
disconnected it at the terminal because it was too much trouble to
disconnect at the wall. The customer thanked us and paid the $800 plus
bill that we sent, with no questions asked. I hadn't thought about that
for about 30 years.

 

Thanks for the memories

 

Murray

 

 



 

 

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RE: I've *GOT* to share!!

[Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator]

Yep!!



From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: I've *GOT* to share!!


Isn't that the one where the tech tells the lady to box up the computer
and ship it back, because she's too stupid to own a computer?
 
Joe Heaton
 



From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: I've *GOT* to share!!


Ummm, maybe they didn't apply power to the Router(s)/Firewall, or the
power outage is affecting more than just the office or the alignment
with Venus is whacked?
 
It's like the old story about the woman that called for Tech Support
stating her monitor and PC were totally blank so the tech had her check
every connection; in the end he ask her to check the power cables under
the desk and she said she had to get a flashlight. The tech ask why, she
stated because they had a power failureDOH!!
 
 
 



From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: I've *GOT* to share!!


I don't get it. 
 
- Original Message - 

From: Cameron   
To: NT System Admin Issues
  
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:49 AM
Subject: OT: I've *GOT* to share!!


Ok, so I work for a rental company that rents everything from
hand tools to great big bobcats and backhoes. I just got a support call
that a remote location that currently has a power failure, so they've
hooked up some generators to get the computers/printers back up and
running but could I please hurry up and reset everything because they
can't access the system/internet/email!!

 

I had to call them and thank them for making my day!!LOL!!!
Gotta love ingenuity!! (oh, and YES, this has happened before with
another location!)

 

Cheers!

Cameron

 

.and now back to our regularly scheduled program...

 










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Re: I Need a Good ASP.NET User Group

[Anatoly Podgoretsky]

news://msnews,microsoft.com

Anatoly Podgoretsky
http://www.podgoretsky.com


  - Original Message - 
  From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:48 PM
  Subject: OT: I Need a Good ASP.NET User Group


  It's been a while since I have needed a good ASP.NET user group, but I have 
hit a wall on a project and need some pointers.

  Does anyone know of a good list?  The one I used a few years ago is no longer 
active.
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RE: I've *GOT* to share!!

[Phillip Partipilo]

Well, sorta... A fully on-line unit would put out power that's probably
cleaner then what the power company delivers, but those arent typically used
in most places.  Usually the power is fed straight thru, with a MOV for
surge protection in the way, but garbage in will be garbage out, and most
lowend generators put out some really filthy power, with the exception of
Honda's EU, but those are actually kinda expensive. 


 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 

-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: I've *GOT* to share!!



Well, the equipment should be hooked to UPSs so that they would plug UPSs
into the generator power and not the equipment directly. The UPSs clean up
the power, that's part of their job.


- Original Message -
From: "Steven Peck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: I've *GOT* to share!!


I like it when we hook up electronics to gas generators.  It helps get
new equipment sooner than you might expect otherwise.  When posible
try and arrange for the oldest crap to get used first :)

Several years ago during the California black outs/rolling power
failures I had a few month contract job at a place.
  Every PC had an APC1000.
  Only half the servers were on UPSs
  None of the networking equipment was on a UPS.
A few weeks worth of work had them all covered though.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:33 AM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So they didn't take into account that they need to hook up their 
> networking
> equipment as well? Why don't you help them with getting that stuff hooked 
> up
> to the generators so they will have access to the tubes? Maybe I just 
> didn't
> get the humor in it, I'm a little under the weather today. Okay, fine, 
> it's
> a little humorous.
>
> James
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Don Ely
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:20 AM
> Subject: Re: I've *GOT* to share!!
> Drink some more coffee...
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:15 AM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I don't get it.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> From: Cameron
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:49 AM
>> Subject: OT: I've *GOT* to share!!
>>
>> Ok, so I work for a rental company that rents everything from hand tools
>> to great big bobcats and backhoes. I just got a support call that a 
>> remote
>> location that currently has a power failure, so they've hooked up some
>> generators to get the computers/printers back up and running but could I
>> please hurry up and reset everything because they can't access the
>> system/internet/email!!
>>
>>
>>
>> I had to call them and thank them for making my day!!LOL!!! Gotta love
>> ingenuity!! (oh, and YES, this has happened before with another 
>> location!)
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>>
>>
>> ...and now back to our regularly scheduled program.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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RE: Browsing DFS space

[Jim Dandy]

Thanks.  All works as you described.  I'm using Vista and Office 2007.
Is there a way to do a Save As in Word and save to an AD published
share?  I could just type in the path but I'm looking for something
easier for end users.  The method Carl described works well but one
would think these AD published shares would be easily accessible too.

Curt

> -Original Message-
> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:38 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Browsing DFS space
> 
> In ADU&C, right click the ou you want it in, pick new, shared folder.
> Type the network path for your DFS path and give it a name.  You can
> also add search values if you go back to edit.
> 
> Users open Network or My network places, Search AD.  Change the find
> drop-down to shared folders and search.  Double-click to open or
right-
> click and map network drive.
> 
> -Bonnie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:17 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Browsing DFS space
> 
> Sorry, I'm new to this.  Could you explain how?  Thanks for your help.
> 
> Curt
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:24 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Browsing DFS space
> >
> > You can also publish a shared folder link in your AD.
> >
> > -Bonnie
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jim Dandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:39 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Browsing DFS space
> >
> > I'm wondering if there is an easy way for users to browse DFS space.
> I
> > created a DFS share called ANSCIShare.  The only way I've found of
> > getting to it is to click Start | Run and type
> //domainname/ANSCIShare.
> > It doesn't show up in "Network Neighborhood" with the list of all
the
> > computers.  If I do Start | Run and type //domainname all I see is
> > NETLOGON and SYSVOL.  Perhaps I haven't got it set up properly?
> > Perhaps
> > there is some other way that is easier for end users to get to go it
> > than the Start | Run technique?  Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Curt
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Re: I Need a Good ASP.NET User Group

[Klint Price - ArizonaITPro]

I was hoping for a freebie / active user group.

thanks though.

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> www.experts-exchange.com 
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>  
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> It's been a while since I have needed a good ASP.NET user group, but I 
> have hit a wall on a project and need some pointers.
>
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RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Russ Clark]

Ouch... I guess I better go home once this monitor is really an
etch-a-sketch.

Russ Clark
Lenexa, KS

-Original Message-
From: Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Looks like he lives in Kansas..I didn't know Kansas even had electricity


-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

$28 for electricity?!  Where the heck do you live, and do you not use
your air conditioning, or watch t.v., or have a refrigerator?  That is
seriously low, unless everything in your house is gas, and that bill is
high.  I'm lucky when my electric bill is under $100... 


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Jacob, good info, but not always accurate.  My sister sent me an
interesting article last month that said the average home computer used
around $50 a month in electricity when on 24X7.  This article was
stating the same reasons about conserving power.  I agree we should all
do our part, but I told her the article was wrong.  And the reason I
knew was that I have one computer at home that is on 24X7 for remote
access when I am not there.  I also have a second computer that is on
only part time, and is a backup to the first.  My electric bill in march
was $26 and change and May's was $28 and change.  That is the entire
electric bill for my apartment.  So you can see how I dispute all the
findings.  However I do have power conservation turned on both
computers.  They do aggressively power down monitors and even hard
drives when not in use.  The primary does not totally power down so I
can still have remote access, but the secondary one does.  



-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Good points Jacob!
 
How do you handle updates then?



From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies



Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of
every day.

 

The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on
and off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some
workstations running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of
electricity.

 

8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work
per year)

 

6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)

 

2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year

 

$243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation
not being used.

 

How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times
a year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard
drives.

 

From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies

 

I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our
workstations when not in use. 
I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing
to "BE GREEN" in your environments? 

Appreciate any and all constructive responses. 

SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok? 
  
Thanks, 
Tom Strader 
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 
Server/Network Systems Administrator 
130 N. Tryon St. 
Charlotte, NC 28202 
O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   

"Action without intelligence is ignorance". But, Intelligence without
appropriate action is the highest form of stupidity known to man"

 

 









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RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Bob Fronk]

$300/mo is my average.  In the hottest part of summer and coldest of
winter I can see $500+ electric bills.

$28... yeah.. maybe every 3 days

Bob Fronk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies
> 
> $28 for electricity?!  Where the heck do you live, and do you not use
> your air conditioning, or watch t.v., or have a refrigerator?  That is
> seriously low, unless everything in your house is gas, and that bill
is
> high.  I'm lucky when my electric bill is under $100...
> 
> 
> Joe Heaton
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies
> 
> Jacob, good info, but not always accurate.  My sister sent me an
> interesting article last month that said the average home computer
used
> around $50 a month in electricity when on 24X7.  This article was
> stating the same reasons about conserving power.  I agree we should
all
> do our part, but I told her the article was wrong.  And the reason I
> knew was that I have one computer at home that is on 24X7 for remote
> access when I am not there.  I also have a second computer that is on
> only part time, and is a backup to the first.  My electric bill in
march
> was $26 and change and May's was $28 and change.  That is the entire
> electric bill for my apartment.  So you can see how I dispute all the
> findings.  However I do have power conservation turned on both
> computers.  They do aggressively power down monitors and even hard
> drives when not in use.  The primary does not totally power down so I
> can still have remote access, but the secondary one does.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:46 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies
> 
> Good points Jacob!
> 
> How do you handle updates then?
> 
> 
> 
> From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies
> 
> 
> 
> Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end
of
> every day.
> 
> 
> 
> The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it
on
> and off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some
> workstations running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of
> electricity.
> 
> 
> 
> 8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work
> per year)
> 
> 
> 
> 6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)
> 
> 
> 
> 2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year
> 
> 
> 
> $243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for
workstation
> not being used.
> 
> 
> 
> How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5
times
> a year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard
> drives.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies
> 
> 
> 
> I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our
> workstations when not in use.
> I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing
> to "BE GREEN" in your environments?
> 
> Appreciate any and all constructive responses.
> 
> SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom Strader
> NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center
> Server/Network Systems Administrator
> 130 N. Tryon St.
> Charlotte, NC 28202
> O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> "Action without intelligence is ignorance". But, Intelligence without
> appropriate action is the highest form of stupidity known to man"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Sam Cayze]

My electricity bill is around $30 a month as well, and that's for a
house.  It's possible!  And I leave all my PC(s) on 24/7.  Minneapolis
Metro.  About $60 in the summer with A/C


/>Hijack.




-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

$28 for electricity?!  Where the heck do you live, and do you not use
your air conditioning, or watch t.v., or have a refrigerator?  That is
seriously low, unless everything in your house is gas, and that bill is
high.  I'm lucky when my electric bill is under $100... 


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Jacob, good info, but not always accurate.  My sister sent me an
interesting article last month that said the average home computer used
around $50 a month in electricity when on 24X7.  This article was
stating the same reasons about conserving power.  I agree we should all
do our part, but I told her the article was wrong.  And the reason I
knew was that I have one computer at home that is on 24X7 for remote
access when I am not there.  I also have a second computer that is on
only part time, and is a backup to the first.  My electric bill in march
was $26 and change and May's was $28 and change.  That is the entire
electric bill for my apartment.  So you can see how I dispute all the
findings.  However I do have power conservation turned on both
computers.  They do aggressively power down monitors and even hard
drives when not in use.  The primary does not totally power down so I
can still have remote access, but the secondary one does.  



-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Good points Jacob!
 
How do you handle updates then?



From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies



Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of
every day.

 

The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on
and off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some
workstations running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of
electricity.

 

8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work
per year)

 

6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)

 

2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year

 

$243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation
not being used.

 

How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times
a year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard
drives.

 

From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies

 

I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our
workstations when not in use. 
I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing
to "BE GREEN" in your environments? 

Appreciate any and all constructive responses. 

SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok? 
  
Thanks,
Tom Strader
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center
Server/Network Systems Administrator
130 N. Tryon St. 
Charlotte, NC 28202
O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   

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RE: I've *GOT* to share!!

[Murray Freeman]

This reminds me of a situation about 30 years ago when I was in business
selling data terminal equipment. My business was in Chicago, and I had a
customer about 2 hours ride from Omaha. The customer had a lot of
electrical issues, and one enterprising lady used to unplug her terminal
on weekends to protect it from surges. She went on vacation and forgot
to tell someone that she unplugged the terminal. Come Monday, and I get
a call from the customer that their terminal is "dead". I didn't have a
technician anywhere near them, so it was agreed we'd "debug" over the
phone with their help. First we told them to check the fuse, and it was
OK. Then we asked if the terminal was plugged into the wall socket, and
it was. We were all at a loss, so they asked if I'd send a tech to fix
the terminal. I told them I'd have to fly a tech in from Chicago, and
they agreed to pay the airfare along with the rental car expense and our
service fee of $95. We sent the tech, and after he got there late in the
afternoon, he called to tell us that the electric cable was disconnected
at the terminal, but it was plugged into the wall. This was a terminal
with it's own built-in stand, and the electric cable was not hard wired,
but quick disconnect and connected UNDER the stand. The woman always
disconnected it at the terminal because it was too much trouble to
disconnect at the wall. The customer thanked us and paid the $800 plus
bill that we sent, with no questions asked. I hadn't thought about that
for about 30 years.
 
Thanks for the memories
 

Murray

 




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Re: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Steve Ens]

Try living in Manitoba where we have oodles of hydro power and selling lots
of it off.

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Klint Price - ArizonaITPro <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Try living in AZ in the summer with a pool.
>
> Easily $400+
>
>
> Joe Heaton wrote:
>
>> $28 for electricity?!  Where the heck do you live, and do you not use
>> your air conditioning, or watch t.v., or have a refrigerator?  That is
>> seriously low, unless everything in your house is gas, and that bill is
>> high.  I'm lucky when my electric bill is under $100...
>>
>> Joe Heaton
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,
>> June 10, 2008 8:18 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies
>>
>> Jacob, good info, but not always accurate.  My sister sent me an
>> interesting article last month that said the average home computer used
>> around $50 a month in electricity when on 24X7.  This article was
>> stating the same reasons about conserving power.  I agree we should all
>> do our part, but I told her the article was wrong.  And the reason I
>> knew was that I have one computer at home that is on 24X7 for remote
>> access when I am not there.  I also have a second computer that is on
>> only part time, and is a backup to the first.  My electric bill in march
>> was $26 and change and May's was $28 and change.  That is the entire
>> electric bill for my apartment.  So you can see how I dispute all the
>> findings.  However I do have power conservation turned on both
>> computers.  They do aggressively power down monitors and even hard
>> drives when not in use.  The primary does not totally power down so I
>> can still have remote access, but the secondary one does.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:46 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies
>>
>> Good points Jacob!
>>  How do you handle updates then?
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:18 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies
>>
>>
>>
>> Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of
>> every day.
>>
>>
>> The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on
>> and off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some
>> workstations running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of
>> electricity.
>>
>>
>> 8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work
>> per year)
>>
>>
>> 6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)
>>
>>
>> 2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year
>>
>>
>> $243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation
>> not being used.
>>
>>
>> How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times
>> a year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard
>> drives.
>>
>>
>> From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies
>>
>>
>> I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our
>> workstations when not in use. I'm just curious what this group of fine
>> young men and women are doing
>> to "BE GREEN" in your environments?
>> Appreciate any and all constructive responses.
>> SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok?  Thanks, Tom Strader NC
>> Blumenthal Performing Arts Center Server/Network Systems Administrator 130
>> N. Tryon St. Charlotte, NC 28202 O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> "Action without intelligence is ignorance". But, Intelligence without
>> appropriate action is the highest form of stupidity known to man"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: Network switch problem?

[Joe Heaton]

Although it does still happen.  Recently installed a new L3 switch and
had to manually configure the speed/duplex on the connection to my old
firewall, which was an old HP server running Checkpoint.  Auto just
wouldn't work, and I'd get at least 50% packet loss... 


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Network switch problem?

They will auto-negotiate to the fastest common link mode, provided you
haven't hard-coded a specific speed & duplex.

If you're going to hard-code the speed & duplex there are a few simple
rules to follow:

a) You *must* hard-code the speed & duplex on both sides of the ethernet
link to the *same* values
b) If you can't set the speed & duplex on one side (ie you're using an
unmanaged switch), *don't* set it on the other; let them auto-negotiate.

In the case of B), if the two sides don't auto-negotiate properly you've
got a case where you *really* need a managed switch.

These days it's extremely uncommon for auto-negotiation to not just
work.

David Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> previously uttered:

> Does that mean when I plug this in I have to configure the ports 
> manually to operate at 1000tx? I thought most switches where plug and 
> go if you know what I mean, though I have never dealt with anything 
> expensive before.

-- 

Phil Brutsche
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Sam Cayze]

4-5 hard drives a year?!?!!?   Do you buy your drives at KMart?!?  j/k
Even on my laptops I average about 1 every 2-3 years...
 
 



From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Workstation Power Off Policies



You're assuming these computers never go into powersave mode which just
isn't the case. 



From: Jacob 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue Jun 10 09:18:02 2008
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies 


Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of
every day.

 

The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on
and off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some
workstations running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of
electricity.

 

8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work
per year)

 

6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)

 

2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year

 

$243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation
not being used.

 

How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times
a year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard
drives.

 

From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies

 

I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our
workstations when not in use. 
I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing
to "BE GREEN" in your environments? 

Appreciate any and all constructive responses. 

SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok? 
  
Thanks, 
Tom Strader 
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 
Server/Network Systems Administrator 
130 N. Tryon St. 
Charlotte, NC 28202 
O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   

"Action without intelligence is ignorance". But, Intelligence without
appropriate action is the highest form of stupidity known to man"

 

 










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RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Terry Dickson]

In Kansas, no I did not have to air Condition in April I only did the
last couple of days in May.  It has been on extensively in June already
though.  I did have a nice spring but I can already tell my summer bills
will be really high as it is getting really hot already.  Today not so
bad, forecast for 85 so that means low 90's with 70+% humidity.  What we
call a nice day around here in the summer.  I can only wait until July
and August when it is over 100 with the same or higher humidity.  



-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

$28 for electricity?!  Where the heck do you live, and do you not use
your air conditioning, or watch t.v., or have a refrigerator?  That is
seriously low, unless everything in your house is gas, and that bill is
high.  I'm lucky when my electric bill is under $100... 


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Jacob, good info, but not always accurate.  My sister sent me an
interesting article last month that said the average home computer used
around $50 a month in electricity when on 24X7.  This article was
stating the same reasons about conserving power.  I agree we should all
do our part, but I told her the article was wrong.  And the reason I
knew was that I have one computer at home that is on 24X7 for remote
access when I am not there.  I also have a second computer that is on
only part time, and is a backup to the first.  My electric bill in march
was $26 and change and May's was $28 and change.  That is the entire
electric bill for my apartment.  So you can see how I dispute all the
findings.  However I do have power conservation turned on both
computers.  They do aggressively power down monitors and even hard
drives when not in use.  The primary does not totally power down so I
can still have remote access, but the secondary one does.  



-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Good points Jacob!
 
How do you handle updates then?



From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies



Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of
every day.

 

The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on
and off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some
workstations running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of
electricity.

 

8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work
per year)

 

6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)

 

2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year

 

$243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation
not being used.

 

How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times
a year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard
drives.

 

From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies

 

I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our
workstations when not in use. 
I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing
to "BE GREEN" in your environments? 

Appreciate any and all constructive responses. 

SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok? 
  
Thanks, 
Tom Strader 
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 
Server/Network Systems Administrator 
130 N. Tryon St. 
Charlotte, NC 28202 
O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   

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appropriate action is the highest form of stupidity known to man"

 

 









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RE: I Need a Good ASP.NET User Group

[Andy Crellin]

I've often found Experts Exchange pretty good, but it's not specific.
www.experts-exchange.com

 

 

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From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 June 2008 16:48
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: I Need a Good ASP.NET User Group

 

It's been a while since I have needed a good ASP.NET user group, but I
have hit a wall on a project and need some pointers.

Does anyone know of a good list?  The one I used a few years ago is no
longer active.

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RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM]

Looks like he lives in Kansas..I didn't know Kansas even had electricity


-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

$28 for electricity?!  Where the heck do you live, and do you not use
your air conditioning, or watch t.v., or have a refrigerator?  That is
seriously low, unless everything in your house is gas, and that bill is
high.  I'm lucky when my electric bill is under $100... 


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Jacob, good info, but not always accurate.  My sister sent me an
interesting article last month that said the average home computer used
around $50 a month in electricity when on 24X7.  This article was
stating the same reasons about conserving power.  I agree we should all
do our part, but I told her the article was wrong.  And the reason I
knew was that I have one computer at home that is on 24X7 for remote
access when I am not there.  I also have a second computer that is on
only part time, and is a backup to the first.  My electric bill in march
was $26 and change and May's was $28 and change.  That is the entire
electric bill for my apartment.  So you can see how I dispute all the
findings.  However I do have power conservation turned on both
computers.  They do aggressively power down monitors and even hard
drives when not in use.  The primary does not totally power down so I
can still have remote access, but the secondary one does.  



-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Good points Jacob!
 
How do you handle updates then?



From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies



Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of
every day.

 

The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on
and off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some
workstations running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of
electricity.

 

8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work
per year)

 

6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)

 

2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year

 

$243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation
not being used.

 

How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times
a year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard
drives.

 

From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies

 

I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our
workstations when not in use. 
I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing
to "BE GREEN" in your environments? 

Appreciate any and all constructive responses. 

SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok? 
  
Thanks, 
Tom Strader 
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 
Server/Network Systems Administrator 
130 N. Tryon St. 
Charlotte, NC 28202 
O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   

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Re: I've *GOT* to share!!

[James Kerr]

Well, the equipment should be hooked to UPSs so that they would plug UPSs 
into the generator power and not the equipment directly. The UPSs clean up 
the power, that's part of their job.



- Original Message - 
From: "Steven Peck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: I've *GOT* to share!!


I like it when we hook up electronics to gas generators.  It helps get
new equipment sooner than you might expect otherwise.  When posible
try and arrange for the oldest crap to get used first :)

Several years ago during the California black outs/rolling power
failures I had a few month contract job at a place.
 Every PC had an APC1000.
 Only half the servers were on UPSs
 None of the networking equipment was on a UPS.
A few weeks worth of work had them all covered though.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:33 AM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So they didn't take into account that they need to hook up their 
networking
equipment as well? Why don't you help them with getting that stuff hooked 
up
to the generators so they will have access to the tubes? Maybe I just 
didn't
get the humor in it, I'm a little under the weather today. Okay, fine, 
it's

a little humorous.

James

- Original Message -
From: Don Ely
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: I've *GOT* to share!!
Drink some more coffee...

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:15 AM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I don't get it.

- Original Message -

From: Cameron
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:49 AM
Subject: OT: I've *GOT* to share!!

Ok, so I work for a rental company that rents everything from hand tools
to great big bobcats and backhoes. I just got a support call that a 
remote

location that currently has a power failure, so they've hooked up some
generators to get the computers/printers back up and running but could I
please hurry up and reset everything because they can't access the
system/internet/email!!



I had to call them and thank them for making my day!!LOL!!! Gotta love
ingenuity!! (oh, and YES, this has happened before with another 
location!)




Cheers!

Cameron



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OT: I Need a Good ASP.NET User Group

[Klint Price - ArizonaITPro]

It's been a while since I have needed a good ASP.NET user group, but I 
have hit a wall on a project and need some pointers.

Does anyone know of a good list?  The one I used a few years ago is no 
longer active.

Klint



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Re: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Klint Price - ArizonaITPro]

Try living in AZ in the summer with a pool.

Easily $400+

Joe Heaton wrote:

$28 for electricity?!  Where the heck do you live, and do you not use
your air conditioning, or watch t.v., or have a refrigerator?  That is
seriously low, unless everything in your house is gas, and that bill is
high.  I'm lucky when my electric bill is under $100... 



Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:18 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Jacob, good info, but not always accurate.  My sister sent me an
interesting article last month that said the average home computer used
around $50 a month in electricity when on 24X7.  This article was
stating the same reasons about conserving power.  I agree we should all
do our part, but I told her the article was wrong.  And the reason I
knew was that I have one computer at home that is on 24X7 for remote
access when I am not there.  I also have a second computer that is on
only part time, and is a backup to the first.  My electric bill in march
was $26 and change and May's was $28 and change.  That is the entire
electric bill for my apartment.  So you can see how I dispute all the
findings.  However I do have power conservation turned on both
computers.  They do aggressively power down monitors and even hard
drives when not in use.  The primary does not totally power down so I
can still have remote access, but the secondary one does.  




-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Good points Jacob!
 
How do you handle updates then?




From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies



Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of
every day.

 


The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on
and off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some
workstations running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of
electricity.

 


8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work
per year)

 


6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)

 


2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year

 


$243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation
not being used.

 


How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times
a year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard
drives.

 


From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies

 


I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our
workstations when not in use. 
I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing
to "BE GREEN" in your environments? 

Appreciate any and all constructive responses. 

SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok? 
  
Thanks, 
Tom Strader 
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 
Server/Network Systems Administrator 
130 N. Tryon St. 
Charlotte, NC 28202 
O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   


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RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Joe Heaton]

$28 for electricity?!  Where the heck do you live, and do you not use
your air conditioning, or watch t.v., or have a refrigerator?  That is
seriously low, unless everything in your house is gas, and that bill is
high.  I'm lucky when my electric bill is under $100... 


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Jacob, good info, but not always accurate.  My sister sent me an
interesting article last month that said the average home computer used
around $50 a month in electricity when on 24X7.  This article was
stating the same reasons about conserving power.  I agree we should all
do our part, but I told her the article was wrong.  And the reason I
knew was that I have one computer at home that is on 24X7 for remote
access when I am not there.  I also have a second computer that is on
only part time, and is a backup to the first.  My electric bill in march
was $26 and change and May's was $28 and change.  That is the entire
electric bill for my apartment.  So you can see how I dispute all the
findings.  However I do have power conservation turned on both
computers.  They do aggressively power down monitors and even hard
drives when not in use.  The primary does not totally power down so I
can still have remote access, but the secondary one does.  



-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Good points Jacob!
 
How do you handle updates then?



From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies



Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of
every day.

 

The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on
and off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some
workstations running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of
electricity.

 

8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work
per year)

 

6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)

 

2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year

 

$243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation
not being used.

 

How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times
a year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard
drives.

 

From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies

 

I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our
workstations when not in use. 
I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing
to "BE GREEN" in your environments? 

Appreciate any and all constructive responses. 

SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok? 
  
Thanks, 
Tom Strader 
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 
Server/Network Systems Administrator 
130 N. Tryon St. 
Charlotte, NC 28202 
O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   

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Re: I've *GOT* to share!!

[Steven Peck]

I like it when we hook up electronics to gas generators.  It helps get
new equipment sooner than you might expect otherwise.  When posible
try and arrange for the oldest crap to get used first :)

Several years ago during the California black outs/rolling power
failures I had a few month contract job at a place.
  Every PC had an APC1000.
  Only half the servers were on UPSs
  None of the networking equipment was on a UPS.
A few weeks worth of work had them all covered though.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:33 AM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So they didn't take into account that they need to hook up their networking
> equipment as well? Why don't you help them with getting that stuff hooked up
> to the generators so they will have access to the tubes? Maybe I just didn't
> get the humor in it, I'm a little under the weather today. Okay, fine, it's
> a little humorous.
>
> James
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Don Ely
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:20 AM
> Subject: Re: I've *GOT* to share!!
> Drink some more coffee...
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:15 AM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I don't get it.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> From: Cameron
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:49 AM
>> Subject: OT: I've *GOT* to share!!
>>
>> Ok, so I work for a rental company that rents everything from hand tools
>> to great big bobcats and backhoes. I just got a support call that a remote
>> location that currently has a power failure, so they've hooked up some
>> generators to get the computers/printers back up and running but could I
>> please hurry up and reset everything because they can't access the
>> system/internet/email!!
>>
>>
>>
>> I had to call them and thank them for making my day!!LOL!!! Gotta love
>> ingenuity!! (oh, and YES, this has happened before with another location!)
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>>
>>
>> …..and now back to our regularly scheduled program…
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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RE: I've *GOT* to share!!

[Joe Heaton]

Isn't that the one where the tech tells the lady to box up the computer
and ship it back, because she's too stupid to own a computer?
 
Joe Heaton
 



From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: I've *GOT* to share!!


Ummm, maybe they didn't apply power to the Router(s)/Firewall, or the
power outage is affecting more than just the office or the alignment
with Venus is whacked?
 
It's like the old story about the woman that called for Tech Support
stating her monitor and PC were totally blank so the tech had her check
every connection; in the end he ask her to check the power cables under
the desk and she said she had to get a flashlight. The tech ask why, she
stated because they had a power failureDOH!!
 
 
 



From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: I've *GOT* to share!!


I don't get it. 
 
- Original Message - 

From: Cameron   
To: NT System Admin Issues
  
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:49 AM
Subject: OT: I've *GOT* to share!!


Ok, so I work for a rental company that rents everything from
hand tools to great big bobcats and backhoes. I just got a support call
that a remote location that currently has a power failure, so they've
hooked up some generators to get the computers/printers back up and
running but could I please hurry up and reset everything because they
can't access the system/internet/email!!

 

I had to call them and thank them for making my day!!LOL!!!
Gotta love ingenuity!! (oh, and YES, this has happened before with
another location!)

 

Cheers!

Cameron

 

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RE: Browsing DFS space

[Miller Bonnie L .]

In ADU&C, right click the ou you want it in, pick new, shared folder.  Type the 
network path for your DFS path and give it a name.  You can also add search 
values if you go back to edit.

Users open Network or My network places, Search AD.  Change the find drop-down 
to shared folders and search.  Double-click to open or right-click and map 
network drive.

-Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Jim Dandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Browsing DFS space

Sorry, I'm new to this.  Could you explain how?  Thanks for your help.

Curt

> -Original Message-
> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:24 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Browsing DFS space
>
> You can also publish a shared folder link in your AD.
>
> -Bonnie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:39 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Browsing DFS space
>
> I'm wondering if there is an easy way for users to browse DFS space.
I
> created a DFS share called ANSCIShare.  The only way I've found of
> getting to it is to click Start | Run and type
//domainname/ANSCIShare.
> It doesn't show up in "Network Neighborhood" with the list of all the
> computers.  If I do Start | Run and type //domainname all I see is
> NETLOGON and SYSVOL.  Perhaps I haven't got it set up properly?
> Perhaps
> there is some other way that is easier for end users to get to go it
> than the Start | Run technique?  Thanks for your help.
>
> Curt
>
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Re: I've *GOT* to share!!

[James Kerr]

So they didn't take into account that they need to hook up their networking 
equipment as well? Why don't you help them with getting that stuff hooked up to 
the generators so they will have access to the tubes? Maybe I just didn't get 
the humor in it, I'm a little under the weather today. Okay, fine, it's a 
little humorous.

James
  - Original Message - 
  From: Don Ely 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:20 AM
  Subject: Re: I've *GOT* to share!!


  Drink some more coffee...


  On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:15 AM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I don't get it. 

- Original Message - 
  From: Cameron 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:49 AM
  Subject: OT: I've *GOT* to share!!


  Ok, so I work for a rental company that rents everything from hand tools 
to great big bobcats and backhoes. I just got a support call that a remote 
location that currently has a power failure, so they've hooked up some 
generators to get the computers/printers back up and running but could I please 
hurry up and reset everything because they can't access the 
system/internet/email!!



  I had to call them and thank them for making my day!!LOL!!! Gotta love 
ingenuity!! (oh, and YES, this has happened before with another location!)



  Cheers!

  Cameron



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RE: I've *GOT* to share!!

[Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator]

Ummm, maybe they didn't apply power to the Router(s)/Firewall, or the
power outage is affecting more than just the office or the alignment
with Venus is whacked?
 
It's like the old story about the woman that called for Tech Support
stating her monitor and PC were totally blank so the tech had her check
every connection; in the end he ask her to check the power cables under
the desk and she said she had to get a flashlight. The tech ask why, she
stated because they had a power failureDOH!!
 
 
 



From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: I've *GOT* to share!!


I don't get it. 
 
- Original Message - 

From: Cameron   
To: NT System Admin Issues
  
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:49 AM
Subject: OT: I've *GOT* to share!!


Ok, so I work for a rental company that rents everything from
hand tools to great big bobcats and backhoes. I just got a support call
that a remote location that currently has a power failure, so they've
hooked up some generators to get the computers/printers back up and
running but could I please hurry up and reset everything because they
can't access the system/internet/email!!

 

I had to call them and thank them for making my day!!LOL!!!
Gotta love ingenuity!! (oh, and YES, this has happened before with
another location!)

 

Cheers!

Cameron

 

.and now back to our regularly scheduled program...

 









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Re: I've *GOT* to share!!

[Don Ely]

Drink some more coffee...

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:15 AM, James Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I don't get it.
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:49 AM
> *Subject:* OT: I've *GOT* to share!!
>
>  Ok, so I work for a rental company that rents everything from hand tools
> to great big bobcats and backhoes. I just got a support call that a remote
> location that currently has a power failure, so they've hooked up some
> generators to get the computers/printers back up and running but could I
> please hurry up and reset everything because they can't access the
> system/internet/email!!
>
>
>
> I had to call them and thank them for making my day!!LOL!!! Gotta love
> ingenuity!! (oh, and YES, this has happened before with another location!)
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Cameron
>
>
>
> …..and now back to our regularly scheduled program…
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Terry Dickson]

Jacob, good info, but not always accurate.  My sister sent me an
interesting article last month that said the average home computer used
around $50 a month in electricity when on 24X7.  This article was
stating the same reasons about conserving power.  I agree we should all
do our part, but I told her the article was wrong.  And the reason I
knew was that I have one computer at home that is on 24X7 for remote
access when I am not there.  I also have a second computer that is on
only part time, and is a backup to the first.  My electric bill in march
was $26 and change and May's was $28 and change.  That is the entire
electric bill for my apartment.  So you can see how I dispute all the
findings.  However I do have power conservation turned on both
computers.  They do aggressively power down monitors and even hard
drives when not in use.  The primary does not totally power down so I
can still have remote access, but the secondary one does.  



-Original Message-
From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Good points Jacob!
 
How do you handle updates then?



From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies



Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of
every day.

 

The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on
and off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some
workstations running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of
electricity.

 

8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work
per year)

 

6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)

 

2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year

 

$243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation
not being used.

 

How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times
a year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard
drives.

 

From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies

 

I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our
workstations when not in use. 
I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing
to "BE GREEN" in your environments? 

Appreciate any and all constructive responses. 

SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok? 
  
Thanks, 
Tom Strader 
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 
Server/Network Systems Administrator 
130 N. Tryon St. 
Charlotte, NC 28202 
O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   

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RE: Browsing DFS space

[Jim Dandy]

Sorry, I'm new to this.  Could you explain how?  Thanks for your help.

Curt

> -Original Message-
> From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:24 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Browsing DFS space
> 
> You can also publish a shared folder link in your AD.
> 
> -Bonnie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:39 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Browsing DFS space
> 
> I'm wondering if there is an easy way for users to browse DFS space.
I
> created a DFS share called ANSCIShare.  The only way I've found of
> getting to it is to click Start | Run and type
//domainname/ANSCIShare.
> It doesn't show up in "Network Neighborhood" with the list of all the
> computers.  If I do Start | Run and type //domainname all I see is
> NETLOGON and SYSVOL.  Perhaps I haven't got it set up properly?
> Perhaps
> there is some other way that is easier for end users to get to go it
> than the Start | Run technique?  Thanks for your help.
> 
> Curt
> 
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Re: I've *GOT* to share!!

[James Kerr]

I don't get it. 

- Original Message - 
  From: Cameron 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:49 AM
  Subject: OT: I've *GOT* to share!!


  Ok, so I work for a rental company that rents everything from hand tools to 
great big bobcats and backhoes. I just got a support call that a remote 
location that currently has a power failure, so they've hooked up some 
generators to get the computers/printers back up and running but could I please 
hurry up and reset everything because they can't access the 
system/internet/email!!

   

  I had to call them and thank them for making my day!!LOL!!! Gotta love 
ingenuity!! (oh, and YES, this has happened before with another location!)

   

  Cheers!

  Cameron

   

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RE: OT: I've *GOT* to share!!

[Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator]

Or, just write Al Gore and he'll reboot the server.



From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: I've *GOT* to share!!


Tell them the Internet is being defragged now and it will be back in a
few hours.  It takes a while since it restarts itself each time
a user tries to go to a web site.

>>> "Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/10/2008 10:49 AM >>>


Ok, so I work for a rental company that rents everything from hand tools
to great big bobcats and backhoes. I just got a support call that a
remote location that currently has a power failure, so they've hooked up
some generators to get the computers/printers back up and running but
could I please hurry up and reset everything because they can't access
the system/internet/email!!

 

I had to call them and thank them for making my day!!LOL!!! Gotta love
ingenuity!! (oh, and YES, this has happened before with another
location!)

 

Cheers!

Cameron

 

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Re: ISA internally

[David W. McSpadden]

I could tell them to pound sand and they could also write us up so we loose our 
sponsorship with the NCUA.
Which they have been doing a lot of this year.
I understand that the MPLS is a private encrypted network on the public 
Internet.  But the Auditor doesn't get it.
All he gets is that the data stream goes out of my SQL box across a router, 
that I do not maintain and have no way of knowing what sniffing is going on 
with it, to anouther router of which they both reside on the Internet.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirk Woloshyn 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:54 AM
  Subject: Re: ISA internally


  If you are on an MPLS network wouldn't that be a private network that does 
not hit the internet? Most service providers have customer networks separate 
from their internet traffic. You would be going over the internet for a remote 
user working from home but should be private internally. Check with your 
provider - maybe you can tell the auditor to pound sand...

Kirk Woloshyn
2825 Temple Avenue
Signal Hill, CA 90755

v 562.304.1939
c 562.682.0261

  David W. McSpadden wrote: 
We are on an MPLS network.  We are a financial institution.  We have 
jackass auditors that want written that even though it it passing over the 
public network (Internet) the member data is secure from endpoint to endpoint.  
They only way that can be assured this is true is if we are managing 
something like a firewall on each LAN because the routers are managed by the 
ISP (AT&T).  I have CISCO Switches I am exploring MAC address ACL's but I want 
to also explore Windows options and I have 2003 member servers at each LAN 
endpoint that do nothing more than some print and file sharing.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Don Ely 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:40 AM
  Subject: Re: ISA internally


  What is the objective?


  On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:25 AM, David W. McSpadden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

What would it hurt to have an ISA server at each branch location inside 
a Private WAN?




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Re: OT: I've *GOT* to share!!

[Tom Miller]

Tell them the Internet is being defragged now and it will be back in a
few hours.  It takes a while since it restarts itself each time
a user tries to go to a web site.

>>> "Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/10/2008 10:49 AM >>>

Ok, so I work for a rental company that rents everything from hand
tools to great big bobcats and backhoes. I just got a support call that
a remote location that currently has a power failure, so they’ve hooked
up some generators to get the computers/printers back up and running but
could I please hurry up and reset everything because they can’t access
the system/internet/email!!
 
I had to call them and thank them for making my day!!LOL!!! Gotta love
ingenuity!! (oh, and YES, this has happened before with another
location!)
 
Cheers!
Cameron
 
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Re: ISA internally

[Kirk Woloshyn]

If you are on an MPLS network wouldn't that be a
private network that does not hit the internet? Most service providers
have customer networks separate from their internet traffic. You would
be going over the internet for a remote user working from home but
should be private internally. Check with your provider - maybe you can
tell the auditor to pound sand...
Kirk Woloshyn
2825 Temple Avenue
Signal Hill, CA 90755

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David W. McSpadden wrote:

  
  
  
  We are on an MPLS network.  We are a
financial institution.  We have jackass auditors that want written that
even though it it passing over the public network (Internet) the member
data is secure from endpoint to endpoint.  
  They only way that can be assured
this is true is if we are managing something like a firewall on each
LAN because the routers are managed by the ISP (AT&T).  I have
CISCO Switches I am exploring MAC address ACL's but I want to also
explore Windows options and I have 2003 member servers at each LAN
endpoint that do nothing more than some print and file sharing.
   
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
Don Ely 
To:
NT System Admin
Issues 
Sent:
Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:40 AM
Subject:
Re: ISA internally


What is the objective?

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:25 AM, David W.
McSpadden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

  
  What would it hurt to have an
ISA server at each branch location inside a Private WAN?
   
   
   
   
  Data Security is everyone's
responsibility.
  
   
  



 


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OT: I've *GOT* to share!!

[Cameron]

Ok, so I work for a rental company that rents everything from hand tools to
great big bobcats and backhoes. I just got a support call that a remote
location that currently has a power failure, so they've hooked up some
generators to get the computers/printers back up and running but could I
please hurry up and reset everything because they can't access the
system/internet/email!!

 

I had to call them and thank them for making my day!!LOL!!! Gotta love
ingenuity!! (oh, and YES, this has happened before with another location!)

 

Cheers!

Cameron

 

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Re: ISA internally

[David W. McSpadden]

We are on an MPLS network.  We are a financial institution.  We have jackass 
auditors that want written that even though it it passing over the public 
network (Internet) the member data is secure from endpoint to endpoint.  
They only way that can be assured this is true is if we are managing something 
like a firewall on each LAN because the routers are managed by the ISP (AT&T).  
I have CISCO Switches I am exploring MAC address ACL's but I want to also 
explore Windows options and I have 2003 member servers at each LAN endpoint 
that do nothing more than some print and file sharing.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Don Ely 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:40 AM
  Subject: Re: ISA internally


  What is the objective?


  On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:25 AM, David W. McSpadden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What would it hurt to have an ISA server at each branch location inside a 
Private WAN?




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Re: ISA internally

[Don Ely]

What is the objective?

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:25 AM, David W. McSpadden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  What would it hurt to have an ISA server at each branch location inside a
> Private WAN?
>
>
>
>
> Data Security is everyone's responsibility.
>
>

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RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

[David Lum]

Systems powered off at night, BIOS set to wake systems at 5:00am, virus
scan at 5:30, Windows Updates at 6:30, systems ready by 7:00am.

WOL also enabled and utilized.

Has worked great for years, shop of ~50 users makes it very easy.

-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Workstation Power Off Policies

Ditto

John Cook wrote:
> We leave ours on during the week so they acquire all updates but shut
> them down on weekends.

-- 

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ISA internally

[David W. McSpadden]

What would it hurt to have an ISA server at each branch location inside a 
Private WAN?




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Re: Dell Latitude D630

[Eric Wittersheim]

Kind of looks like it might be rebooting.  I had this happen with an HP NC
6000.  It turned out to be a bad stick of RAM.

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Ara Avvali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> Sometimes my windows vistas crashed due to nvidia drivers. Of course I have
> got the latest drivers but story short, after reboot my display doesn't show
> up not even then BIOS boot. So it makes me wonder if this is an actually a
> faulty hardware related issue. I have captured a video from what happens to
> system. Anyone has seen this before I go through support? Video is here
>
> http://76.12.241.4/MVI_1255.zip
>
>
>
>

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RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Stefan Jafs]

http://pmdb.cadmusdev.com/powermanagement/quickCalc.html

 

This may help

 

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From: Kirk Woloshyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:10
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Workstation Power Off Policies

 

Yeah but the 300 watts is the capacity of the power supply - not the
actual consumption. That's like saying my truck has a 260 HP engine.
While I'm cruising on the freeway it's only generating 50 HP to maintain
my speed. When I haul a load of bricks up hill it needs the full 260 but
not most of the time. Likewise - the PC consumes considerably less than
300 watts most of the time. I'm not debating the wsidom of turning them
off - just the math.





Kirk Woloshyn
2825 Temple Avenue
Signal Hill, CA 90755
 
v 562.304.1939
c 562.682.0261



Jacob wrote: 

Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of
every day.

 

The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on
and off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some
workstations running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of
electricity.

 

8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work
per year)

 

6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)

 

2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year

 

$243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation
not being used.

 

How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times
a year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard
drives.

 

From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies

 

I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our
workstations when not in use. 
I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing
to "BE GREEN" in your environments? 

Appreciate any and all constructive responses. 

SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok? 
  
Thanks, 
Tom Strader 
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 
Server/Network Systems Administrator 
130 N. Tryon St. 
Charlotte, NC 28202 
O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098 
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Re: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Kirk Woloshyn]

Yeah but the 300 watts is the capacity of the power
supply - not the actual consumption. That's like saying my truck has a
260 HP engine. While I'm cruising on the freeway it's only generating
50 HP to maintain my speed. When I haul a load of bricks up hill it
needs the full 260 but not most of the time. Likewise - the PC consumes
considerably less than 300 watts most of the time. I'm not debating the
wsidom of turning them off - just the math.



Kirk Woloshyn
2825 Temple Avenue
Signal Hill, CA 90755

v 562.304.1939
c 562.682.0261


Jacob wrote:

  
  
  Workstation Power Off Policies
  

  
  Shutdown
your workstation and turn off the surge protector at
the end of every day.
   
  The
issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning
it on and off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some
workstations running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of
electricity.
   
  8760
(hours per year) – 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours
not at work per year)
   
  6760
* 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)
   
  2028
* .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year
   
  $243.36
* 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for
workstation not being used.
   
  How
often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or
5 times a year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace
hard
drives.
   
  
  
  From: Tom
Strader -
NCBPAC Systems Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies
  
  
   
  I've
been
ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our workstations when
not in
use. 
  I'm
just
curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing to "BE
GREEN" in your environments? 
  Appreciate
any and all constructive responses. 
  SHOOK
and
TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok? 
    
  Thanks,
  
  Tom
Strader 
  NC
Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 
  Server/Network
Systems Administrator 
  130
N. Tryon St. 
  Charlotte,
NC 28202 
  O:
704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  "Action
without intelligence is ignorance". But, Intelligence without
appropriate
action is the highest form of stupidity known to man"
   
   
  
  

Re: Workstation Power Off Policies

[James Rankin]

On the subject of GREEN, we use VI's HA features to shut down servers when
not required, and fire them up when the user load increases. It is well
cool.

2008/6/9 Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our
> workstations when not in use.
> I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing to
> "BE GREEN" in your environments?
>
> Appreciate any and all constructive responses.
>
> SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok?
>
> Thanks,
> *Tom Strader*
> *NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center*
> Server/Network Systems Administrator
> 130 N. Tryon St.
> Charlotte, NC 28202
> O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> "Action without intelligence is ignorance". But, Intelligence without
> appropriate action is the highest form of stupidity known to man"
>
>

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Dell Latitude D630

[Ara Avvali]

Hello everyone,

 

Sometimes my windows vistas crashed due to nvidia drivers. Of course I
have got the latest drivers but story short, after reboot my display
doesn't show up not even then BIOS boot. So it makes me wonder if this
is an actually a faulty hardware related issue. I have captured a video
from what happens to system. Anyone has seen this before I go through
support? Video is here

http://76.12.241.4/MVI_1255.zip

 


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RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

[Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator]

You need to educate your boss about Symantec's wasteful ways!!



From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9



Tried add/remove and it just sits there "Gathering information"

So I disabled all services for Symantec and rebooted.

We can login now and have full functionality again.

Now that I can breath, WTF.  

I have never had an antivirus shutdown a DC.  (But I used Trend, My boss
wants Symantec)

 

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

You can remove it via Add / Remove Programs

However the out-of-the-box policies for SEP are quite a pain and need to
be tested thoroughly before deploying them. I can't find where it blocks
editing of the hosts file, if anyone knows the location with the admin
console I would be grateful (not to hijack your thread or anything)

2008/6/10 Brumbaugh, Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

When I logon to another pc remotely, no rpc available

Users unable to logon, 

I disabled SEP and I can logon now.

But can't remove it

 

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:37 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

Can you remotely connect to resources using your same accounts?  If so,
you might be able to use psexec to see what is going on.

 

-Bonnie

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:33 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

I can get either of my domain controllers to accept a login.

I have installed SEP earlier in the week.

I have disabled but can't remove it.

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

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RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator]

Good points Jacob!
 
How do you handle updates then?



From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies



Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of
every day.

 

The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on
and off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some
workstations running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of
electricity.

 

8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work
per year)

 

6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)

 

2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year

 

$243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation
not being used.

 

How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times
a year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard
drives.

 

From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies

 

I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our
workstations when not in use. 
I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing
to "BE GREEN" in your environments? 

Appreciate any and all constructive responses. 

SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok? 
  
Thanks, 
Tom Strader 
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 
Server/Network Systems Administrator 
130 N. Tryon St. 
Charlotte, NC 28202 
O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   

"Action without intelligence is ignorance". But, Intelligence without
appropriate action is the highest form of stupidity known to man"

 

 






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RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

[Orland, Kathleen]

 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822158 
 
This will give you some details about running AV on a DC. 

  _  

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9



Tried add/remove and it just sits there "Gathering information"

So I disabled all services for Symantec and rebooted.

We can login now and have full functionality again.

Now that I can breath, WTF.  

I have never had an antivirus shutdown a DC.  (But I used Trend, My boss
wants Symantec)

 

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

You can remove it via Add / Remove Programs

However the out-of-the-box policies for SEP are quite a pain and need to be
tested thoroughly before deploying them. I can't find where it blocks
editing of the hosts file, if anyone knows the location with the admin
console I would be grateful (not to hijack your thread or anything)

2008/6/10 Brumbaugh, Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

When I logon to another pc remotely, no rpc available

Users unable to logon, 

I disabled SEP and I can logon now.

But can't remove it

 

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:37 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

Can you remotely connect to resources using your same accounts?  If so, you
might be able to use psexec to see what is going on.

 

-Bonnie

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:33 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

I can get either of my domain controllers to accept a login.

I have installed SEP earlier in the week.

I have disabled but can't remove it.

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

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Re: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

[James Rankin]

Yes, Symantec's attitude stinks. As does the usability of the admin console.
And the size of it's footprint, which is positively Yeti-esque. But I think
this is a debate that's been seen a few times before, and it usually ends in
one word - NOD32.

2008/6/10 Brumbaugh, Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  Tried add/remove and it just sits there "Gathering information"
>
> So I disabled all services for Symantec and rebooted.
>
> We can login now and have full functionality again.
>
> Now that I can breath, WTF.
>
> I have never had an antivirus shutdown a DC.  (But I used Trend, My boss
> wants Symantec)
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:04 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9
>
>
>
> You can remove it via Add / Remove Programs
>
>
> However the out-of-the-box policies for SEP are quite a pain and need to be
> tested thoroughly before deploying them. I can't find where it blocks
> editing of the hosts file, if anyone knows the location with the admin
> console I would be grateful (not to hijack your thread or anything)
>
> 2008/6/10 Brumbaugh, Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> When I logon to another pc remotely, no rpc available
>
> Users unable to logon,
>
> I disabled SEP and I can logon now.
>
> But can't remove it
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:37 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9
>
>
>
> Can you remotely connect to resources using your same accounts?  If so, you
> might be able to use psexec to see what is going on.
>
>
>
> -Bonnie
>
>
>
> *From:* Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:33 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Help! Microsoft won't open til 9
>
>
>
> I can get either of my domain controllers to accept a login.
>
> I have installed SEP earlier in the week.
>
> I have disabled but can't remove it.
>
> *Luke L. Brumbaugh*
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Butler Animal Health Supply
>
> Ph:(614) 659-1736
>
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RE: Trend 8.0 server hang - revisiting

[Chipshead]

If I disable the one and only Trend service that is running, the issue goes 
away. I suppose it's possible that the server ran for three years without an 
issue and placing a load on the server via the Trend install uncovered a 
hardware issue due to server load but I am skeptical. I finally heard back from 
MS last night and my case has been assigned to a new tech because the original 
tech is in training this week. No warm and fuzzy feelings there. The new tech 
works from 4 to midnight EST so I have requested assignment of a tech that can 
work with me during EST business hours. All I want is a dmp file. All hardware 
tests come back AOK.
Thanks Ken.

-- Original message -- 
From: Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

KERNEL_STACK_INPAGE_ERROR is the inability to bring back data that has been 
paged to pagefile into memory.

Which, in my experience, is 95% caused by some kind of hardware fault.

I suppose it's possible that the AV scanner is preventing this. But I would 
suspect that a lot more people would be yelling by now.

I suppose a simple test would be to simply uninstall the AV software and see if 
that makes the problem go away.

Cheers
Ken



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2008 1:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Trend 8.0 server hang - revisiting



Ken and Michael: Pagefile is on the C drive, plenty of space on drive and 
pagefile is bigger that physical RAM.
Ran hardware diagnostics last Friday and again today and after I removed the 
memory on Bank 2 it all comes back good.
Came in this morning to a KERNEL_STACK_INPAGE_ERROR BSOD. 
Server went out of warranty on 03/30/08. The easiest thing to do would be to 
buy another server but then I won't know why or how this is happening. It bugs 
the heck out of me that this thing ran for three years without a hiccup and the 
moment I put Trend on it it starts coughing up hairballs. I'm going to take it 
apart and re secure all connectors etc.
Thanks to all who have responded.
Steve 

-- Original message -- 
From: Miller Bonnie L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Steve—Have you seen this?  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/228753 

It defines your bugcode as “0xC185, or STATUS_IO_DEVICE_ERROR: improper 
termination or defective cabling of SCSI-based devices, or two devices 
attempting to use the same IRQ.”

I thought this one looked familiar, and I dug back in my notes going WY 
back.  Found this is the code I was having back in 2001 on a Dell PE 2400 
(running W2k at the time) that had a failing backplane.  Everything (drives) 
would just disappear and the server would dump, with no dmp file (no access to 
the drives to create one, as Ken mentioned).

-Bonnie


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, 7 June 2008 3:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Trend 8.0 server hang - revisiting

Thanks for the excellent input Ken and Bonnie. 
I've been researching bugcheck codes and running diagnostics. Found some power 
supply errors which I corrected and also had a ECC error on Bank 2 Dimm A, 
first documented on 08/2006. Switched dimms around and immediately produced 
multiple errors on the same bank. Removed that bank of dimms and had high hopes 
that would correct the issue. BSOD 20 minutes later.Down loadingg Open Mange 
now so I can attempt to clear errors and look deeper. Still no dmp files. 
Plenty of room on the pagefile drive. 
Not running the /3GB switch in the boot.ini. 
Haven't heard a word from Trend or MS although I have open cases with them. 
May try the reg hack Bonnie suggested. I have nothing to lose. 
Example of screenscrees listed below. 0XF4 and 0X21A are the most common. 
STOP: c21a {Fatal System Error}
The Windows Logon Process system process terminated unexpectedly with a status 
of 0X0080 (0X 0X).
The system has been shut down. 
A process or thread crucial to system operation has unexpectedly exited or been 
terminated. Technical Information: *** STOP: 0X00F4, (0X0003, 
0X89BFD7B0, 0X89BFD914 0X8094B734) 
Saw the following ONCE: 
KERNEL_STACK_INPAGE_ERROR
***STOP: 0X0077 (0XC185, 0XC185, 0X, 0X008C3000) 
Thanks 
Steve 
From: 
Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If dump files are not being generated then:

a)  You have an issue with mass storage controller drivers or similar – 
Windows could be losing access to the underlying storage. Check the Bug Check 
code *on the screen*
b)  You do not have sufficient page file space on your boot drive (the one 
that holds your pagefile). Dump information (except minidumps) are written to 
pagefile.sys. When the machine next starts up, savedump.exe copies content out 
of the pagefile.sys file and into memory.dmp

Cheers
Ken


-- Original message -- 
From: Miller Bonnie L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Ugh… the only other thing *like* this I’ve seen with Trend (and A/V in general) 
is usually kernel memory 

RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Ken Schaefer]

I have scripts to prompt the user to standby the machine at a configurable time 
(10pm in this case). After three unanswered responses, it puts the machine into 
standby, except on Fridays when it puts the machine into hibernate. There's 
another script that sets the first script as a scheduled task (you can deploy 
that via SMS or SCCM or whatever you use to run scripts on machines).

If anyone's interested, just ping me offline and I can send them through.

Cheers
Ken

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2008 11:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

2 questions:
300 watts while idle?!?!
And...
Don't you have to divide by 1000 to calculate kilowatt hours? (KILO = 1000)

So in my experience
We average 65 watts for a computer while idle.
8760 hours in a year - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work per year)
65 watts * 6760 hours / 1000 = 439.4 kilowatt-hours
569.4 * $.12 (RATE) = $68.33 (cost per year per computer)
$68.33 * 40 computers = $2,733.20 a year in electricity for workstations not 
being used.

I agree it is still a waste of electricity and wear and tear.




From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of every 
day.

The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on and 
off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some workstations running 
with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of electricity.

8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work per year)

6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)

2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year

$243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation not 
being used.

How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times a 
year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard drives.

From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies


I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our workstations when 
not in use.
I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing to "BE 
GREEN" in your environments?

Appreciate any and all constructive responses.

SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok?

Thanks,
Tom Strader
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center
Server/Network Systems Administrator
130 N. Tryon St.
Charlotte, NC 28202
O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

[David Mazzaccaro]

2 questions:

300 watts while idle?!?!

And...

Don't you have to divide by 1000 to calculate kilowatt hours? (KILO =
1000)

 

So in my experience

We average 65 watts for a computer while idle.

8760 hours in a year - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work
per year)

65 watts * 6760 hours / 1000 = 439.4 kilowatt-hours

569.4 * $.12 (RATE) = $68.33 (cost per year per computer)

$68.33 * 40 computers = $2,733.20 a year in electricity for workstations
not being used.

 

I agree it is still a waste of electricity and wear and tear.

 

 

 



From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

 

Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of
every day.

 

The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on
and off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some
workstations running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of
electricity.

 

8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work
per year)

 

6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)

 

2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year

 

$243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation
not being used.

 

How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times
a year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard
drives.

 

From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies

 

I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our
workstations when not in use. 
I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing
to "BE GREEN" in your environments? 

Appreciate any and all constructive responses. 

SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok? 
  
Thanks, 
Tom Strader 
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 
Server/Network Systems Administrator 
130 N. Tryon St. 
Charlotte, NC 28202 
O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   

"Action without intelligence is ignorance". But, Intelligence without
appropriate action is the highest form of stupidity known to man"

 

 

 

 

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Re: Workstation Power Off Policies

[John Cook]

You're assuming these computers never go into powersave mode which just isn't 
the case.


From: Jacob
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Tue Jun 10 09:18:02 2008
Subject: RE: Workstation Power Off Policies
Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of every 
day.

The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on and 
off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some workstations running 
with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of electricity.

8760 (hours per year) – 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work per year)

6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)

2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year

$243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation not 
being used.

How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times a 
year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard drives.

From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies


I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our workstations when 
not in use.
I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing to "BE 
GREEN" in your environments?

Appreciate any and all constructive responses.

SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok?

Thanks,
Tom Strader
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center
Server/Network Systems Administrator
130 N. Tryon St.
Charlotte, NC 28202
O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

[Brumbaugh, Luke]

Tried add/remove and it just sits there "Gathering information"

So I disabled all services for Symantec and rebooted.

We can login now and have full functionality again.

Now that I can breath, WTF.  

I have never had an antivirus shutdown a DC.  (But I used Trend, My boss
wants Symantec)

 

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

You can remove it via Add / Remove Programs

However the out-of-the-box policies for SEP are quite a pain and need to
be tested thoroughly before deploying them. I can't find where it blocks
editing of the hosts file, if anyone knows the location with the admin
console I would be grateful (not to hijack your thread or anything)

2008/6/10 Brumbaugh, Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

When I logon to another pc remotely, no rpc available

Users unable to logon, 

I disabled SEP and I can logon now.

But can't remove it

 

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:37 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

Can you remotely connect to resources using your same accounts?  If so,
you might be able to use psexec to see what is going on.

 

-Bonnie

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:33 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

I can get either of my domain controllers to accept a login.

I have installed SEP earlier in the week.

I have disabled but can't remove it.

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

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RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

[Brumbaugh, Luke]

RDP, can’t get to console.

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

RDP or console?



From: Brumbaugh, Luke 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue Jun 10 08:32:48 2008
Subject: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9 

I can get either of my domain controllers to accept a login.

I have installed SEP earlier in the week.

I have disabled but can’t remove it.

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

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RE: Workstation Power Off Policies

[Jacob]

Shutdown your workstation and turn off the surge protector at the end of
every day.

 

The issue of leaving a workstation on all the time because turning it on and
off on a daily basis does more harm is absurd.  With some workstations
running with a 300w power supply, that is a waste of electricity.

 

8760 (hours per year) - 2000 (hours at work) = 6760 (hours not at work per
year)

 

6760 * 300 watts = 2028000 watts (2028 KWh)

 

2028 * .12 KWh (give or take on the cost of the KWh) = $243.36 year

 

$243.36 * 40 workstations = $9700 a year in electricity for workstation not
being used.

 

How often do I replace a hard drive in a workstation, maybe 4 or 5 times a
year.  Does not cost use more than $9700 a year to replace hard drives.

 

From: Tom Strader - NCBPAC Systems Administrator
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation Power Off Policies

 

I've been ask to evaluate the possibility of powering off our workstations
when not in use. 
I'm just curious what this group of fine young men and women are doing to
"BE GREEN" in your environments? 

Appreciate any and all constructive responses. 

SHOOK and TVK that means no wise-cracks, ok? 
  
Thanks, 
Tom Strader 
NC Blumenthal Performing Arts Center 
Server/Network Systems Administrator 
130 N. Tryon St. 
Charlotte, NC 28202 
O: 704.379.1285 | F:704.444.2098 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

[James Rankin]

You can remove it via Add / Remove Programs

However the out-of-the-box policies for SEP are quite a pain and need to be
tested thoroughly before deploying them. I can't find where it blocks
editing of the hosts file, if anyone knows the location with the admin
console I would be grateful (not to hijack your thread or anything)

2008/6/10 Brumbaugh, Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  When I logon to another pc remotely, no rpc available
>
> Users unable to logon,
>
> I disabled SEP and I can logon now.
>
> But can't remove it
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:37 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9
>
>
>
> Can you remotely connect to resources using your same accounts?  If so, you
> might be able to use psexec to see what is going on.
>
>
>
> -Bonnie
>
>
>
> *From:* Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Help! Microsoft won't open til 9
>
>
>
> I can get either of my domain controllers to accept a login.
>
> I have installed SEP earlier in the week.
>
> I have disabled but can't remove it.
>
> *Luke L. Brumbaugh*
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Butler Animal Health Supply
>
> Ph:(614) 659-1736
>
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RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

[Brumbaugh, Luke]

I have block inheritance for server group.  And I only installed the
virus stuff, nothing else.

But I will disable anyways

 

 

From: Howard J Coates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

Disable the firewall policy in the console

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 June 2008 13:51
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

When I logon to another pc remotely, no rpc available

Users unable to logon, 

I disabled SEP and I can logon now.

But can't remove it

 

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

Can you remotely connect to resources using your same accounts?  If so,
you might be able to use psexec to see what is going on.

 

-Bonnie

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

I can get either of my domain controllers to accept a login.

I have installed SEP earlier in the week.

I have disabled but can't remove it.

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

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RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

[Howard J Coates]

Disable the firewall policy in the console

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 June 2008 13:51
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

When I logon to another pc remotely, no rpc available

Users unable to logon, 

I disabled SEP and I can logon now.

But can't remove it

 

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

Can you remotely connect to resources using your same accounts?  If so,
you might be able to use psexec to see what is going on.

 

-Bonnie

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

I can get either of my domain controllers to accept a login.

I have installed SEP earlier in the week.

I have disabled but can't remove it.

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

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RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

[Brumbaugh, Luke]

When I logon to another pc remotely, no rpc available

Users unable to logon, 

I disabled SEP and I can logon now.

But can't remove it

 

 

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

Can you remotely connect to resources using your same accounts?  If so,
you might be able to use psexec to see what is going on.

 

-Bonnie

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

 

I can get either of my domain controllers to accept a login.

I have installed SEP earlier in the week.

I have disabled but can't remove it.

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

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Re: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

[John Cook]

RDP or console?


From: Brumbaugh, Luke
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Tue Jun 10 08:32:48 2008
Subject: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

I can get either of my domain controllers to accept a login.

I have installed SEP earlier in the week.

I have disabled but can’t remove it.

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

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RE: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9

[Miller Bonnie L .]

Can you remotely connect to resources using your same accounts?  If so, you 
might be able to use psexec to see what is going on.

-Bonnie

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Help! Microsoft won't open til 9


I can get either of my domain controllers to accept a login.

I have installed SEP earlier in the week.

I have disabled but can't remove it.

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

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