Re: Barracuda and EmailReg.Org
So this is DNSBL that does the same thing as SPF - but you have to pay for it. Brilliant. -- ME2 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Michael Brummet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of you run into this? From http://zacharyozer.blogspot.com/ Tuesday, October 14, 2008 Biggest. Spam Scam. Ever. A few years ago, MIT purchased an anti-spam solution from Barracuda, a firm specializing in network security products. I just received an email on one of The Tech's mailing lists about how email from The Tech's mail server are being rejected by the Barracuda Spam Filters. I've edited the message, but goes something like this: Forwarded Message From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2008 00:00:00 - This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host W92-130-BARRACUDA-3.mit.edu [18.7.21.224]: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [18.187.1.1] blocked using Barracuda Reputation; http://bbl.barracudacentral.com/q.cgi?ip=18.187.1.1 Following the link, you're taken to a page where you're asked to fill out a form (which includes a CAPTCHA) in order to verify that you're not spamming people. Were this where things had ended, I would have forgotten this whole thing. While I don't necessarily think requiring people to fill out a quick form is the best way to fight spam, its certainly not completely unreasonable to ask them to do it once in a while. Extra kudos if they can use some sort of certificate, signature, etc to bypass it. However, what follows is one of the most perverted uses of technology and diabolically brilliant business plans I have ever witnessed. Lets assume you'd like to avoid being caught by this spam filter in the future. Barracuda allows you to register with EmailReg.org , an 'organization' which maintains a list of domains and the IP address of their associated mail server. To sweeten the pot, they allow anyone to query their database for free in order verify the authenticity of an email. Many of you are scratching your heads, so let me provide an example. Lets say that you run Google.com. You register with EmailReg.org and tell them, 'Any email that comes from google.com will have to come from one of our SMTP servers. Their IP addresses are 1.2.3.4 and 9.8.7.6'. This means that an email which claims to be from [EMAIL PROTECTED] that didn't come from those IP address probably isn't actually from someone who works at Google and can probably be marked as spam. (Note that identity verification is a big part of spam protection, since spammers often pretend to be someone else, in an attempt to hide how much mail they're sending.) What a great idea right? Spam protection that works and is transparent to users? Until you realize that they charge $20 to register your domain. Per year. Effectively, this means that you have to pay $20 per year to send email to people on domains that use this service to verify email authenticity. This wouldn't be that big of a deal if EmailReg was the definitive source for this information, or if they had some new and brilliant technology, or if there weren't any other good solutions. Instead, EmailReg is nobody, their product is a whitelist (albeit with two parameters – domain and IP), and there are a hundred other, perfectly viable anti-spam techniques. Somehow, they've managed to get a major corporation (Baracuda) on board and they're now gouging people to send e-mail – something which is supposed to be free. I salute the businessman who came up with this idea and the salesman who got Barracuda on board. Beyond that, I'm furious. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
V2P?
I know it is easy enough to do a P2V conversion, but is there any way you can go the other way? I have a load of cloned VMWare guests that are all deployed from a template, and now I need this template to be deployed to a single physical Dell PE 2950. Is this possible? Thinking about it, how would you be able to get the hardware devices detected correctly? Does anyone know of any possible way this could be done? TIA, JRR ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: V2P?
Platespin or remove the VM Tools and Sysprep Cheers Ken From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2008 7:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: V2P? I know it is easy enough to do a P2V conversion, but is there any way you can go the other way? I have a load of cloned VMWare guests that are all deployed from a template, and now I need this template to be deployed to a single physical Dell PE 2950. Is this possible? Thinking about it, how would you be able to get the hardware devices detected correctly? Does anyone know of any possible way this could be done? TIA, JRR ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
VMware ESXi 3.5 On Dell 2550
I have an old Dell PE 2550 that has a PERC 3D/I RAID controller. I've loaded up VMware ESXi 3.5 onto the server. However when I try to create a VM for RHEL 4, the installation always fails say that it can't find any disks on which to install the O/S. I'm assuming this has to do with the RAID controller? Has anyone successfully deployed RHEL 4 in this configuration or could someone point me in the right direction? TIA. The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Walker Martyn Ltd or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Walker Martyn Ltd, company number SC197533. Company is registered in Scotland and has its registered office at 1 Park Circus Place, Glasgow G3 6AH, UK. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Unknown account created and added to local admins group
You might want to find out what is using the account. From: Clubber Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Unknown account created and added to local admins group ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMware ESXi 3.5 On Dell 2550
I ended up buying a used perc 5i off ebay and putting it in a precision 390 and it's worked great for months until yesterday when for some reason every time I stress my guest ESX locks up and I have to power cycle the box. ESX only works with certain raid cards and there is a FAQ on there web site that lists them. -Original Message- From: Robert Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMware ESXi 3.5 On Dell 2550 I have an old Dell PE 2550 that has a PERC 3D/I RAID controller. I've loaded up VMware ESXi 3.5 onto the server. However when I try to create a VM for RHEL 4, the installation always fails say that it can't find any disks on which to install the O/S. I'm assuming this has to do with the RAID controller? Has anyone successfully deployed RHEL 4 in this configuration or could someone point me in the right direction? TIA. The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Walker Martyn Ltd or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Walker Martyn Ltd, company number SC197533. Company is registered in Scotland and has its registered office at 1 Park Circus Place, Glasgow G3 6AH, UK. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMware ESXi 3.5 On Dell 2550
When the install completes do you have available storage? Im surprised you get through the installation but then get a message like that. IIRC all PERC controllers are listed in the HCL. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMware ESXi 3.5 On Dell 2550
The install doesn't complete. Only gets as far as partitioning the disks. When it can find any, the installation aborts. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday October 2008 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Bayesian Filter detected spam - RE: VMware ESXi 3.5 On Dell 2550 When the install completes do you have available storage? Im surprised you get through the installation but then get a message like that. IIRC all PERC controllers are listed in the HCL. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Walker Martyn Ltd or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Walker Martyn Ltd, company number SC197533. Company is registered in Scotland and has its registered office at 1 Park Circus Place, Glasgow G3 6AH, UK. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: V2P?
There are some articles on doing this manually as well, but like Ken said platespin is an option, you could also run something like livestate against them which I used to use when platespin wasn't cost effective. From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 04:53 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: V2P? I know it is easy enough to do a P2V conversion, but is there any way you can go the other way? I have a load of cloned VMWare guests that are all deployed from a template, and now I need this template to be deployed to a single physical Dell PE 2950. Is this possible? Thinking about it, how would you be able to get the hardware devices detected correctly? Does anyone know of any possible way this could be done? TIA, JRR ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Barracuda and EmailReg.Org
It does more than that. Passing an SPF test will not stop your message from being blocked by a Bays filter for example. SPF is just one test. What the 'Cuda whitelist will do is just that, whitelist you past all the other tests, assuming the admin that runs the Cuda as the Barracuda Reputation Service turned on and set to whitelist. I certainly don't. My definition of a whitelist is different that Barracuda's. For example Cuda has Constant Contact whitelisted through this service. I only whitelist trusted senders that never send spam. Constant Contact is certainly anti-spam but their customers sometimes fool them and a spam run or two sneaks through. So Constant Contact is not someone that never sends spam, thus they shouldn't be whitelisted imho. I can't wait until March when my service contract is up with them and I can replace this PoS. And be forewarned if you have a Cuda and use the reputation service to block with. They are doing intentional collateral damage. It is Unannounced and you are unable to look it up on their lookup form. Not good, not good at all. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Barracuda and EmailReg.Org So this is DNSBL that does the same thing as SPF - but you have to pay for it. Brilliant. -- ME2 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Michael Brummet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of you run into this? From http://zacharyozer.blogspot.com/ Tuesday, October 14, 2008 Biggest. Spam Scam. Ever. A few years ago, MIT purchased an anti-spam solution from Barracuda, a firm specializing in network security products. I just received an email on one of The Tech's mailing lists about how email from The Tech's mail server are being rejected by the Barracuda Spam Filters. I've edited the message, but goes something like this: Forwarded Message From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2008 00:00:00 - This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host W92-130-BARRACUDA-3.mit.edu [18.7.21.224]: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [18.187.1.1] blocked using Barracuda Reputation; http://bbl.barracudacentral.com/q.cgi?ip=18.187.1.1 Following the link, you're taken to a page where you're asked to fill out a form (which includes a CAPTCHA) in order to verify that you're not spamming people. Were this where things had ended, I would have forgotten this whole thing. While I don't necessarily think requiring people to fill out a quick form is the best way to fight spam, its certainly not completely unreasonable to ask them to do it once in a while. Extra kudos if they can use some sort of certificate, signature, etc to bypass it. However, what follows is one of the most perverted uses of technology and diabolically brilliant business plans I have ever witnessed. Lets assume you'd like to avoid being caught by this spam filter in the future. Barracuda allows you to register with EmailReg.org , an 'organization' which maintains a list of domains and the IP address of their associated mail server. To sweeten the pot, they allow anyone to query their database for free in order verify the authenticity of an email. Many of you are scratching your heads, so let me provide an example. Lets say that you run Google.com. You register with EmailReg.org and tell them, 'Any email that comes from google.com will have to come from one of our SMTP servers. Their IP addresses are 1.2.3.4 and 9.8.7.6'. This means that an email which claims to be from [EMAIL PROTECTED] that didn't come from those IP address probably isn't actually from someone who works at Google and can probably be marked as spam. (Note that identity verification is a big part of spam protection, since spammers often pretend to be someone else, in an attempt to hide how much mail they're sending.) What a great idea right? Spam protection that works and is transparent to users? Until you realize that they charge $20 to register your domain. Per year. Effectively, this means that you have to pay $20 per year to send email to people on domains that use this service to verify email authenticity. This wouldn't be that big of a deal if EmailReg was the definitive source for this information, or if they had some new and brilliant technology, or if there weren't any other good solutions. Instead, EmailReg is nobody, their product is a whitelist (albeit with two parameters -
RE: More Updates
Yea, to release these right after what we did last Thursday to our users is unacceptable. Very lame of MS, and I don't usually bash them. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More Updates I'm not going to approve them till next month. I can't do this for the 3rd time this month. The first time was the usual. The second understandable. The 3rd? Ridiculous. From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More Updates Yup, I have them on mine also. S From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: More Updates Why did my WSUS download more updates today? Seriously? New Update Alert The following 16 new updates have been synchronized to T3UTIL since Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:15 PM (GMT). Critical and Security Updates System Update Readiness Tool for x64 based systems (KB947821) [August 2008]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821 This tool is being offered because an inconsistency was found in the Windows servicing store which may prevent the successful installation of future updates, service packs, and software. This tool checks your computer for such inconsistencies and attempts to resolve issues if found. System Update Readiness Tool (KB947821) [August 2008]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821 This tool is being offered because an inconsistency was found in the Windows servicing store which may prevent the successful installation of future updates, service packs, and software. This tool checks your computer for such inconsistencies and attempts to resolve issues if found. System Update Readiness Tool for Itanium-based Systems (KB947821) [August 2008]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821 This tool is being offered because an inconsistency was found in the Windows servicing store which may prevent the successful installation of future updates, service packs, and software. This tool checks your computer for such inconsistencies and attempts to resolve issues if found. Security Update for Windows Server 2008 for Itanium-based Systems (KB953155)http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=120829 A security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your Microsoft Windows-based system and gain control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. This update is provided to you and licensed under the Windows Server 2008 License Terms. Security Update for Windows Vista for x64-based Systems (KB953155)http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=120829 A security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your Microsoft Windows-based system and gain control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. This update is provided to you and licensed under the Windows Vista License Terms. Security Update for Windows Vista (KB953155)http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=120829 A security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your Microsoft Windows-based system and gain control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. This update is provided to you and licensed under the Windows Vista License Terms. Other Updates Windows XP Service Pack 3 (KB936929)http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929 Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) is an update to Windows XP that addresses key feedback from our customers and is a cumulative update that includes all previously released updates for Windows XP, including security updates. Windows XP SP3 contains a small number of new updates and should not significantly change the Windows XP experience. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. Group Policy Preference Client Side Extensions for Windows XP (KB943729)http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943729 Multiple Group Policy Preferences have been added to the Windows Server 2008 Group Policy Management Console (which are also available through the Remote Server Administration Toolset (RSAT) for Windows Vista SP1). Group Policy Preferences enable information technology professionals to configure, deploy, and manage operating system and application settings they previously were not able to manage using Group Policy. After you install this update, your computer will be able to process the new Group Policy Preference extensions. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. SQL Server 2008 Books Online (August
RE: More Updates
I approved them yesterday, so far they have not shown up as needed. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More Updates I'm not going to approve them till next month. I can't do this for the 3rd time this month. The first time was the usual. The second understandable. The 3rd? Ridiculous. From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More Updates Yup, I have them on mine also. S From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: More Updates Why did my WSUS download more updates today? Seriously? New Update Alert The following 16 new updates have been synchronized to T3UTIL since Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:15 PM (GMT). Critical and Security Updates System Update Readiness Tool for x64 based systems (KB947821) [August 2008]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821 This tool is being offered because an inconsistency was found in the Windows servicing store which may prevent the successful installation of future updates, service packs, and software. This tool checks your computer for such inconsistencies and attempts to resolve issues if found. System Update Readiness Tool (KB947821) [August 2008]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821 This tool is being offered because an inconsistency was found in the Windows servicing store which may prevent the successful installation of future updates, service packs, and software. This tool checks your computer for such inconsistencies and attempts to resolve issues if found. System Update Readiness Tool for Itanium-based Systems (KB947821) [August 2008]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821 This tool is being offered because an inconsistency was found in the Windows servicing store which may prevent the successful installation of future updates, service packs, and software. This tool checks your computer for such inconsistencies and attempts to resolve issues if found. Security Update for Windows Server 2008 for Itanium-based Systems (KB953155)http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=120829 A security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your Microsoft Windows-based system and gain control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. This update is provided to you and licensed under the Windows Server 2008 License Terms. Security Update for Windows Vista for x64-based Systems (KB953155)http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=120829 A security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your Microsoft Windows-based system and gain control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. This update is provided to you and licensed under the Windows Vista License Terms. Security Update for Windows Vista (KB953155)http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=120829 A security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your Microsoft Windows-based system and gain control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. This update is provided to you and licensed under the Windows Vista License Terms. Other Updates Windows XP Service Pack 3 (KB936929)http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929 Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) is an update to Windows XP that addresses key feedback from our customers and is a cumulative update that includes all previously released updates for Windows XP, including security updates. Windows XP SP3 contains a small number of new updates and should not significantly change the Windows XP experience. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. Group Policy Preference Client Side Extensions for Windows XP (KB943729)http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943729 Multiple Group Policy Preferences have been added to the Windows Server 2008 Group Policy Management Console (which are also available through the Remote Server Administration Toolset (RSAT) for Windows Vista SP1). Group Policy Preferences enable information technology professionals to configure, deploy, and manage operating system and application settings they previously were not able to manage using Group Policy. After you install this update, your computer will be able to process the new Group Policy Preference extensions. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. SQL Server 2008 Books Online (August 2008)http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=128895 SQL Server 2008, the
RE: VMware ESXi 3.5 On Dell 2550
Okay, maybe perc4 is as far back as it goes. Check the esxi hcl -Original Message- From: Robert Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 08:14 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMware ESXi 3.5 On Dell 2550 The install doesn't complete. Only gets as far as partitioning the disks. When it can find any, the installation aborts. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday October 2008 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Bayesian Filter detected spam - RE: VMware ESXi 3.5 On Dell 2550 When the install completes do you have available storage? Im surprised you get through the installation but then get a message like that. IIRC all PERC controllers are listed in the HCL. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Walker Martyn Ltd or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Walker Martyn Ltd, company number SC197533. Company is registered in Scotland and has its registered office at 1 Park Circus Place, Glasgow G3 6AH, UK. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
Professional supports up to 30 phones? It seemed lower to me, when I read the pricing information. Sean Rector, MCSE From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Virginia Opera's 2008-2009 Season ... Viva la passione! IL TROVATORE - THE ELIXIR OF LOVE - TOSCA - THE BARBER OF SEVILLE Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA (1-866-673-7282). Subscribe or purchase tickets online now! This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
SCOM Training
Has anyone used ONLC for training opportunities? Am upgrading from MOM 2k5 to SCOM 2k7 in the (hopefully foreseeable future) and not finding any local offerings in central Ohio. Wendell Wendell Gardner Chemical Abstracts Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: SCOM Training
InFront Consulting has some great OpsMgr training: http://www.infrontconsulting.com/events.htm Looks like they have a class in Cleveland in December. Also, if you don't mind online training, LearnITStuff's training is great: https://www.learnitstuff.com/t-learnmom2005.aspx From: Gardner, Wendell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: SCOM Training Has anyone used ONLC for training opportunities? Am upgrading from MOM 2k5 to SCOM 2k7 in the (hopefully foreseeable future) and not finding any local offerings in central Ohio. Wendell Wendell Gardner Chemical Abstracts Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
Up to 30 users http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_pricing Malcolm From: Sean Rector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008 07:57 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional supports up to 30 phones? It seemed lower to me, when I read the pricing information. Sean Rector, MCSE From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Technology Manager Virginia Opera Association E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line) {*} This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
It comes licensed for 1 phone and can support up to 30. From: Sean Rector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional supports up to 30 phones? It seemed lower to me, when I read the pricing information. Sean Rector, MCSE From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... _ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Technology Manager Virginia Opera Association E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line) {*} ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
How to tell where a user is logged in?
I've got a sys admin who's leaving his super user account logged in over night. I would like to find out WHERE he's doing this before I talk to him. Is there a way to find out what server or computer a user account is logged in? I guess I could pull the security log files off all the servers and write a script to parse them. There's probably an easier way? Thanks in advance, Jon . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: How to tell where a user is logged in?
How big is your network? You could just scan it with psloggedon in if it isn't too huge. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/0e18b180-9b7a-4c49-8120-c47c5a693683.aspx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jond Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: How to tell where a user is logged in? I've got a sys admin who's leaving his super user account logged in over night. I would like to find out WHERE he's doing this before I talk to him. Is there a way to find out what server or computer a user account is logged in? I guess I could pull the security log files off all the servers and write a script to parse them. There's probably an easier way? Thanks in advance, Jon . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is SourceForge down?
Down from here. I also did not get the memo, so I would bet technical difficulties that will be resolved as some point. From: Ken Hoegeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is SourceForge down? I can't get this site. Did I miss any news about their closure or moving? Thanks Ken ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is SourceForge down?
They got bought by Oracle. Now everything is commercial and licensed $10K per CPU. From: Ken Hoegeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is SourceForge down? I can't get this site. Did I miss any news about their closure or moving? Thanks Ken ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is SourceForge down?
rofl From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2008 13:29 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is SourceForge down? They got bought by Oracle. Now everything is commercial and licensed $10K per CPU. From: Ken Hoegeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is SourceForge down? I can't get this site. Did I miss any news about their closure or moving? Thanks Ken The information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). The information in this communication may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Nothing in this e-mail is intended to conclude a contract on behalf of QinetiQ or make QinetiQ subject to any other legally binding commitments, unless the e-mail contains an express statement to the contrary or incorporates a formal Purchase Order. For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored and recorded for business purposes including security, audit and archival purposes. Any response to this email indicates consent to this. Telephone calls to QinetiQ may be monitored or recorded for quality control, security and other business purposes. QinetiQ Limited Registered in England Wales: Company Number:3796233 Registered office: 85 Buckingham Gate, London SW1E 6PD, United Kingdom Trading address: Cody Technology Park, Cody Building, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX, United Kingdom http://www.qinetiq.com/home/notices/legal.html ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
Missed that sigh. Sean Rector, MCSE From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Up to 30 users http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_pricing Malcolm From: Sean Rector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008 07:57 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional supports up to 30 phones? It seemed lower to me, when I read the pricing information. Sean Rector, MCSE From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Technology Manager Virginia Opera Association E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line) {*} This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: More Updates
I just this too. Aren't some of these old?!? I swear I approved some of these already... From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More Updates I approved them yesterday, so far they have not shown up as needed. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More Updates I'm not going to approve them till next month. I can't do this for the 3rd time this month. The first time was the usual. The second understandable. The 3rd? Ridiculous. From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More Updates Yup, I have them on mine also. S From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: More Updates Why did my WSUS download more updates today? Seriously? New Update Alert The following 16 new updates have been synchronized to T3UTIL since Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:15 PM (GMT). Critical and Security Updates System Update Readiness Tool for x64 based systems (KB947821) [August 2008] http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821 This tool is being offered because an inconsistency was found in the Windows servicing store which may prevent the successful installation of future updates, service packs, and software. This tool checks your computer for such inconsistencies and attempts to resolve issues if found. System Update Readiness Tool (KB947821) [August 2008] http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821 This tool is being offered because an inconsistency was found in the Windows servicing store which may prevent the successful installation of future updates, service packs, and software. This tool checks your computer for such inconsistencies and attempts to resolve issues if found. System Update Readiness Tool for Itanium-based Systems (KB947821) [August 2008] http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821 This tool is being offered because an inconsistency was found in the Windows servicing store which may prevent the successful installation of future updates, service packs, and software. This tool checks your computer for such inconsistencies and attempts to resolve issues if found. Security Update for Windows Server 2008 for Itanium-based Systems (KB953155) http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=120829 A security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your Microsoft Windows-based system and gain control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. This update is provided to you and licensed under the Windows Server 2008 License Terms. Security Update for Windows Vista for x64-based Systems (KB953155) http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=120829 A security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your Microsoft Windows-based system and gain control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. This update is provided to you and licensed under the Windows Vista License Terms. Security Update for Windows Vista (KB953155) http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=120829 A security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your Microsoft Windows-based system and gain control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. This update is provided to you and licensed under the Windows Vista License Terms. Other Updates Windows XP Service Pack 3 (KB936929) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929 Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) is an update to Windows XP that addresses key feedback from our customers and is a cumulative update that includes all previously released updates for Windows XP, including security updates. Windows XP SP3 contains a small number of new updates and should not significantly change the Windows XP experience. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. Group Policy Preference Client Side Extensions for Windows XP (KB943729) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943729 Multiple Group Policy Preferences have been added to the Windows Server 2008 Group Policy Management Console (which are also available through the Remote Server Administration Toolset (RSAT) for Windows Vista SP1). Group Policy Preferences enable information technology professionals to configure, deploy, and manage operating system and application settings they previously were not able to manage using Group Policy.
RE: How to tell where a user is logged in?
Why not just set this logon times from 8-5 on his account and force logoff afterwards, then who cares where he is tryin to login from ( which should be recorded in failure audits on DC's) Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jond Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: How to tell where a user is logged in? I've got a sys admin who's leaving his super user account logged in over night. I would like to find out WHERE he's doing this before I talk to him. Is there a way to find out what server or computer a user account is logged in? I guess I could pull the security log files off all the servers and write a script to parse them. There's probably an easier way? Thanks in advance, Jon . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: SCOM Training
Grab a copy of System Center Operations Manager 2007 Unleashed from Amazon as well for $37.79. It's a fat book with some good hints and tips on how things should be setup for the real world, not just how to next through the install wizard. And it has a section on upgrading from MOM2005 to SCOM2007 which would be helpful for you. From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2008 13:09 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SCOM Training InFront Consulting has some great OpsMgr training: http://www.infrontconsulting.com/events.htm Looks like they have a class in Cleveland in December. Also, if you don't mind online training, LearnITStuff's training is great: https://www.learnitstuff.com/t-learnmom2005.aspx From: Gardner, Wendell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: SCOM Training Has anyone used ONLC for training opportunities? Am upgrading from MOM 2k5 to SCOM 2k7 in the (hopefully foreseeable future) and not finding any local offerings in central Ohio. Wendell Wendell Gardner Chemical Abstracts Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] === STEMCOR CONFIDENTIALITY AND DISCLAIMER NOTICE This e-mail is intended only for the addressees named in it. The contents should not be disclosed to any other person nor copies taken. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of Stemcor unless otherwise specifically stated. Stemcor does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message nor responsibility for any change made to it after it was sent by the original sender. You are advised to carry out a virus check before opening any attachment as Stemcor does not accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. You should be aware that Stemcor reserves the right to read incoming and outgoing emails. === ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: V2P?
Yank the tools, make sure mass storage drivers for your controller are in the critical device database, image out then in. When it boots for the first time, it will find everything and you can add your OE specific software. jlc From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: V2P? I know it is easy enough to do a P2V conversion, but is there any way you can go the other way? I have a load of cloned VMWare guests that are all deployed from a template, and now I need this template to be deployed to a single physical Dell PE 2950. Is this possible? Thinking about it, how would you be able to get the hardware devices detected correctly? Does anyone know of any possible way this could be done? TIA, JRR ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Unknown account created and added to local admins group
Wait a sec - the event showing when the account was created (624) should contain information on who created the account. Likewise with the password set, which would be a 628. When we change the local admin password on our servers, these events are logged, and it tells us who performed the action. See below for an example - I just created a test account on my workstation and got the below event ID 624. Event Type:Success Audit Event Source: Security Event Category: Account Management Event ID:624 Date: 10/29/2008 Time:7:04:52 AM User: Domain\username Computer: Description: User Account Created: New Account Name: testadmin New Domain: New Account ID:\testadmin Caller User Name: username used Caller Domain: Domain Caller Logon ID: (0x0,0x53444) Privileges - Hope this information helps. Object auditing is going to tell you if the new account is accessing or doing anything to files/folders. The naming convention for your account sounds extremely suspicious - I would be concerned about a virus infection on that PC. Thanks, James Winzenz Infrastructure Systems Engineer II - Security Pulte Homes Information Services From: Clubber Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Unknown account created and added to local admins group CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and delete the message and any file attachments from your computer. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: V2P?
You just told another guy to yank the tool My value add for the day. Shook From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: V2P? Yank the tools, make sure mass storage drivers for your controller are in the critical device database, image out then in. When it boots for the first time, it will find everything and you can add your OE specific software. jlc From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: V2P? I know it is easy enough to do a P2V conversion, but is there any way you can go the other way? I have a load of cloned VMWare guests that are all deployed from a template, and now I need this template to be deployed to a single physical Dell PE 2950. Is this possible? Thinking about it, how would you be able to get the hardware devices detected correctly? Does anyone know of any possible way this could be done? TIA, JRR ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Unknown account created and added to local admins group
James is correct, Also I would look to implement a restricted Groups GPO which will rip any accounts you don't want in the local administrators, Power Users and any other Local or Global Groups that are sensitive in nature. You should see the eventlogs light up each time the GPO is applied if someone or something has put an extra user in your local administrators group. Now for the 64M dollar question, Do you know if you are currently having a penetration test or security testing on your farm going on that your bosses didn't tell you was going on. I have ran into that once before, but Id side on the cautious side and check your other systems and see if something larger isn't in store. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 From: James Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Unknown account created and added to local admins group Wait a sec - the event showing when the account was created (624) should contain information on who created the account. Likewise with the password set, which would be a 628. When we change the local admin password on our servers, these events are logged, and it tells us who performed the action. See below for an example - I just created a test account on my workstation and got the below event ID 624. Event Type:Success Audit Event Source: Security Event Category: Account Management Event ID:624 Date: 10/29/2008 Time:7:04:52 AM User: Domain\username Computer: Description: User Account Created: New Account Name: testadmin New Domain: New Account ID:\testadmin Caller User Name: username used Caller Domain: Domain Caller Logon ID: (0x0,0x53444) Privileges - Hope this information helps. Object auditing is going to tell you if the new account is accessing or doing anything to files/folders. The naming convention for your account sounds extremely suspicious - I would be concerned about a virus infection on that PC. Thanks, James Winzenz Infrastructure Systems Engineer II - Security Pulte Homes Information Services From: Clubber Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Unknown account created and added to local admins group CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and delete the message and any file attachments from your computer. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
We are in BIO research/manufacturing. Nothing seems to be slowing down yet. We are all expecting it, but you would think it would start show up by now. I'm moving forward with my budget as if nothing has changed. Phil From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
Nothing has changed here...yet. Maybe we'll be reducing spending next year, but I think not as we gear up for the Olympics. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Alex Eckelberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
Ask me again after the 4th of November. We are a public school, we have a levy renewal up for vote on that date. It is not an increase, just a renewal of an existing levy. If it passes we have already made the cuts to cover inflation so we are good. If it fails it will be a nightmare here. I will remain employed but many will lose their jobs and I certainly won't be spending any money. From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: How to tell where a user is logged in?
If he's accessing shared files anywhere you can check the sessions on that sharing server and it'll tell you where he is. Works for me as we do folder re-direction so everyone's connected to a server. Jon Lewis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jond Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: How to tell where a user is logged in? I've got a sys admin who's leaving his super user account logged in over night. I would like to find out WHERE he's doing this before I talk to him. Is there a way to find out what server or computer a user account is logged in? I guess I could pull the security log files off all the servers and write a script to parse them. There's probably an easier way? Thanks in advance, Jon . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
Lots here in Healthcare, even more than usual. No training, no travelling, nothing outside what is on the docket atm Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
It's a two edged sword here, I can spend as much money as I want, however, revenue must be tied to it but I'm on the sales side of the house. My operational counter parts are spending steadily, as the majority of the items\services needed are priced very well during these times. We're actually addressing this very same topic in a panel discussion format in January '09 and I'm searching for a couple of extra panelists. You interested, Alex? :) Shook From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is SourceForge down?
works for me Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security _ From: Ken Hoegeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is SourceForge down? I can't get this site. Did I miss any news about their closure or moving? Thanks Ken No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.4/1752 - Release Date: 10/29/2008 7:45 AM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
We're going through next year's budget right now and it's being slashed like a victim from Nightmare on Elm St. J Don Guyer Systems Engineer Information Services Department Prudential Fox Roach/ Trident 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Ph: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 www.prufoxroach.com blocked::blocked::http://www.prufoxroach.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex /pre table width=100%trtd class=body This email and any files transmitted with it are confidentialbr and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity tobr whom they are addressed. It may contain information protected by br state and federal privacy and intellectual property laws.br If you have received this email in error pleasebr notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail frombr your system. If you are not the named addressee you shouldbr not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail, and you arebr notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking anybr action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.br /td/tr/table ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
I work for a university in Virginia, and we are in a budget crunch right now. The university just had their budget cut by a little over 5%. We have a hiring and training freeze. We can only spend money where there is an interuption to business. No money for new projects. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Alex Eckelberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
It's kind of mixed here. Big ticket items that we asked for in this years budget were nixed long ago, but items that are needed have been getting approved and purchased. Training budget got axed for this year also. Just got 2 new servers for Exchange 2007. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a two edged sword here, I can spend as much money as I want, however, revenue must be tied to it but I'm on the sales side of the house. My operational counter parts are spending steadily, as the majority of the items\services needed are priced very well during these times. We're actually addressing this very same topic in a panel discussion format in January '09 and I'm searching for a couple of extra panelists. You interested, Alex? J Shook *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:20 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
Jim, Are you saying that the connection between BB device and the server is different through Professional than it is with the Enterprise? Specifically, one of my questions was whether there was an RDP client for BB, and Malcom answered that there was, and there was no need for VPN because of the MDS connection. So are you saying that I wouldn't be able to RDP if I use the Professional? We do not run SBS here, and never will. But I'd rather not spend for the Enterprise if I can do the same stuff with Professional. Right now we have maybe 10 WM users, and if we went to BB, they would be moved over to BB. I can't foresee ever needing more than 30 licenses. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
I was doing real good, even had the directors and board convinced to drop Symantec and go Vipre but...well we took a hard dump and now I'm on hold for all purchases, training, Hiring Freeze, Temps have been let go. I guess we need to sell a lot more cookies so IT won't be impacted :) Thomas From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Healthcare here as well... As a larger portion of the population gets older, our business will continue to grow. However, we are more focused on the 9.5% cut in reimbursement that Medicare is implementing in January! Ouch! From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Lots here in Healthcare, even more than usual. No training, no travelling, nothing outside what is on the docket atm Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: V2P?
Actually, I said tools :) If you have more than one to yank your either sexually diverse (bravo) or a freak (even cooler maybe)... From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: V2P? You just told another guy to yank the tool My value add for the day. Shook From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: V2P? Yank the tools, make sure mass storage drivers for your controller are in the critical device database, image out then in. When it boots for the first time, it will find everything and you can add your OE specific software. jlc From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: V2P? I know it is easy enough to do a P2V conversion, but is there any way you can go the other way? I have a load of cloned VMWare guests that are all deployed from a template, and now I need this template to be deployed to a single physical Dell PE 2950. Is this possible? Thinking about it, how would you be able to get the hardware devices detected correctly? Does anyone know of any possible way this could be done? TIA, JRR ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
I too am at a University and we lost 15% of the budget last year and another 15% on top of last years cut so far this year. I have been told and just came out of a meeting that unless it is broken it ain't getting fixed. I will only get my AV purchased this year without a fight. Every other penny is going to be a major fight to get. Jon On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Rob Bonfiglio [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I work for a university in Virginia, and we are in a budget crunch right now. The university just had their budget cut by a little over 5%. We have a hiring and training freeze. We can only spend money where there is an interuption to business. No money for new projects. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Alex Eckelberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
3 years ago we didn't foresee more than 10 either, now we have 45. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Jim, Are you saying that the connection between BB device and the server is different through Professional than it is with the Enterprise? Specifically, one of my questions was whether there was an RDP client for BB, and Malcom answered that there was, and there was no need for VPN because of the MDS connection. So are you saying that I wouldn't be able to RDP if I use the Professional? We do not run SBS here, and never will. But I'd rather not spend for the Enterprise if I can do the same stuff with Professional. Right now we have maybe 10 WM users, and if we went to BB, they would be moved over to BB. I can't foresee ever needing more than 30 licenses. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
Well our staff is static. The only people with mobile devices are execs, and IT. Even if they add all the marketing people that would only add another 4 or 5. And if it takes 3 years to get to that point, then I'm still pretty good. My biggest concern right now is functionality between the two versions. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question 3 years ago we didn't foresee more than 10 either, now we have 45. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Jim, Are you saying that the connection between BB device and the server is different through Professional than it is with the Enterprise? Specifically, one of my questions was whether there was an RDP client for BB, and Malcom answered that there was, and there was no need for VPN because of the MDS connection. So are you saying that I wouldn't be able to RDP if I use the Professional? We do not run SBS here, and never will. But I'd rather not spend for the Enterprise if I can do the same stuff with Professional. Right now we have maybe 10 WM users, and if we went to BB, they would be moved over to BB. I can't foresee ever needing more than 30 licenses. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
I wonder how an Obama health care system would affect you all. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Healthcare here as well... As a larger portion of the population gets older, our business will continue to grow. However, we are more focused on the 9.5% cut in reimbursement that Medicare is implementing in January! Ouch! _ From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Lots here in Healthcare, even more than usual. No training, no travelling, nothing outside what is on the docket atm Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 _ From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
This is a question you may want to ask that RDP tools vendor. I downloaded that RDP app yesterday. I didn't get it installed because it wants SQL and some other crap I wasn't prepared to do at the moment. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Well our staff is static. The only people with mobile devices are execs, and IT. Even if they add all the marketing people that would only add another 4 or 5. And if it takes 3 years to get to that point, then I'm still pretty good. My biggest concern right now is functionality between the two versions. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question 3 years ago we didn't foresee more than 10 either, now we have 45. _ From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Jim, Are you saying that the connection between BB device and the server is different through Professional than it is with the Enterprise? Specifically, one of my questions was whether there was an RDP client for BB, and Malcom answered that there was, and there was no need for VPN because of the MDS connection. So are you saying that I wouldn't be able to RDP if I use the Professional? We do not run SBS here, and never will. But I'd rather not spend for the Enterprise if I can do the same stuff with Professional. Right now we have maybe 10 WM users, and if we went to BB, they would be moved over to BB. I can't foresee ever needing more than 30 licenses. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... _ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: KB958644
Anyone know of an MSI version of this patch, so that we can push it with a computer policy? Our WSUS server is out of commission temporarily. (Or an idiot-proof way to create an MSI from the EXE for the patch? Yes, I'm the 1D10T.) - Philip This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: KB958644 We've had no issues with the patch. The one issue we thought we had turned out to be to restrictive settings on local laptop firewalls. Steven On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had no issues with the patch either. I've run it on Server 2k3 with and without R2, XP SPs2 3, and Vista SP1. It's all been good, and for once it only takes a few seconds instead of minutes for my servers to reboot after patching. That was a nice change of pace. TVK ...Don deserves it. ;-) From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 NO problems with the MS08-067 Patch, and Dam that was COLD TVK... Funny but Cold. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 That how far back Don regression tests his wives. :-P From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 They probably only regression tested back to 1987. From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 Anyone have any issues with the RPC/SMB patch? One of my users is saying it effected his ProComm. In that all the dialup modem settings reset to defaults. Todd Lemmiksoo Network Administrator All-Mode Communications, Inc. 1725 Dryden Road Freeville, New York 13068 (607) 347-4164 x440 1-877-ALLMODE (toll free) http://www.all-mode.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
Healthcare here as well... As a larger portion of the population gets older, our business will continue to grow. However, we are more focused on the 9.5% cut in reimbursement that Medicare is implementing in January! Ouch! From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Lots here in Healthcare, even more than usual. No training, no travelling, nothing outside what is on the docket atm Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RIS post install setup
For ages I have used HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEX\ to do my post install setup and reboot at the end. I have tracked down on XP and 2k that there are post install process that want to run and get killed as the machine never reaches the desktop. Anyone got an alternative to this to get stuff setup on the machine after the first reboot? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: KB958644
Hey we all try to hit new lows occasionally some spend a lot of time learning others don't. Jon On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Phil Hershey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of an MSI version of this patch, so that we can push it with a computer policy? Our WSUS server is out of commission temporarily. (Or an idiot-proof way to create an MSI from the EXE for the patch? Yes, I'm the 1D10T.) - Philip This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: KB958644 We've had no issues with the patch. The one issue we thought we had turned out to be to restrictive settings on local laptop firewalls. Steven On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had no issues with the patch either. I've run it on Server 2k3 with and without R2, XP SPs2 3, and Vista SP1. It's all been good, and for once it only takes a few seconds instead of minutes for my servers to reboot after patching. That was a nice change of pace. TVK ...Don deserves it. ;-) From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 NO problems with the MS08-067 Patch, and Dam that was COLD TVK... Funny but Cold. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 That how far back Don regression tests his wives. :-P From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 They probably only regression tested back to 1987. From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 Anyone have any issues with the RPC/SMB patch? One of my users is saying it effected his ProComm. In that all the dialup modem settings reset to defaults. Todd Lemmiksoo Network Administrator All-Mode Communications, Inc. 1725 Dryden Road Freeville, New York 13068 (607) 347-4164 x440 1-877-ALLMODE (toll free) http://www.all-mode.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
We are mostly in a purchasing freeze for new projects. Existing projects get to move forward though. I was just told by the owner to try and negotiate all software purchases with the software vendors, his thought being that they have a margin that can be sliced. I doubt Microsoft will listen to my requests of a price reduction though. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:19 AM, Alex Eckelberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex -- Mike Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: KB958644
How about this bat file as a machine script: if exist c:\ KB958644.txt goto end echo %date% %time% c:\ KB958644.txt \\servername\share\KB956644.exe /quiet :end -Original Message- From: Phil Hershey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 Anyone know of an MSI version of this patch, so that we can push it with a computer policy? Our WSUS server is out of commission temporarily. (Or an idiot-proof way to create an MSI from the EXE for the patch? Yes, I'm the 1D10T.) - Philip This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: KB958644 We've had no issues with the patch. The one issue we thought we had turned out to be to restrictive settings on local laptop firewalls. Steven On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had no issues with the patch either. I've run it on Server 2k3 with and without R2, XP SPs2 3, and Vista SP1. It's all been good, and for once it only takes a few seconds instead of minutes for my servers to reboot after patching. That was a nice change of pace. TVK ...Don deserves it. ;-) From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 NO problems with the MS08-067 Patch, and Dam that was COLD TVK... Funny but Cold. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 That how far back Don regression tests his wives. :-P From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 They probably only regression tested back to 1987. From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 Anyone have any issues with the RPC/SMB patch? One of my users is saying it effected his ProComm. In that all the dialup modem settings reset to defaults. Todd Lemmiksoo Network Administrator All-Mode Communications, Inc. 1725 Dryden Road Freeville, New York 13068 (607) 347-4164 x440 1-877-ALLMODE (toll free) http://www.all-mode.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: KB958644
Phil, Have you tried opening the exe with 7-zip, or something similar? Usually, the MSI is inside, and can be extracted. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: KB958644 Hey we all try to hit new lows occasionally some spend a lot of time learning others don't. Jon On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Phil Hershey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of an MSI version of this patch, so that we can push it with a computer policy? Our WSUS server is out of commission temporarily. (Or an idiot-proof way to create an MSI from the EXE for the patch? Yes, I'm the 1D10T.) - Philip This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: KB958644 We've had no issues with the patch. The one issue we thought we had turned out to be to restrictive settings on local laptop firewalls. Steven On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had no issues with the patch either. I've run it on Server 2k3 with and without R2, XP SPs2 3, and Vista SP1. It's all been good, and for once it only takes a few seconds instead of minutes for my servers to reboot after patching. That was a nice change of pace. TVK ...Don deserves it. ;-) From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 NO problems with the MS08-067 Patch, and Dam that was COLD TVK... Funny but Cold. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 That how far back Don regression tests his wives. :-P From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 They probably only regression tested back to 1987. From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 Anyone have any issues with the RPC/SMB patch? One of my users is saying it effected his ProComm. In that all the dialup modem settings reset to defaults. Todd Lemmiksoo Network Administrator All-Mode Communications, Inc. 1725 Dryden Road Freeville, New York 13068 (607) 347-4164 x440 1-877-ALLMODE (toll free) http://www.all-mode.com http://www.all-mode.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: KB958644
Not in this one that I can see. Most unfortunate. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 Phil, Have you tried opening the exe with 7-zip, or something similar? Usually, the MSI is inside, and can be extracted. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: KB958644 Hey we all try to hit new lows occasionally some spend a lot of time learning others don't. Jon On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Phil Hershey [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of an MSI version of this patch, so that we can push it with a computer policy? Our WSUS server is out of commission temporarily. (Or an idiot-proof way to create an MSI from the EXE for the patch? Yes, I'm the 1D10T.) - Philip This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: KB958644 We've had no issues with the patch. The one issue we thought we had turned out to be to restrictive settings on local laptop firewalls. Steven On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had no issues with the patch either. I've run it on Server 2k3 with and without R2, XP SPs2 3, and Vista SP1. It's all been good, and for once it only takes a few seconds instead of minutes for my servers to reboot after patching. That was a nice change of pace. TVK ...Don deserves it. ;-) From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 NO problems with the MS08-067 Patch, and Dam that was COLD TVK... Funny but Cold. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 That how far back Don regression tests his wives. :-P From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 They probably only regression tested back to 1987. From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 Anyone have any issues with the RPC/SMB patch? One of my users is saying it effected his ProComm. In that all the dialup modem settings reset to defaults. Todd Lemmiksoo Network Administrator All-Mode Communications, Inc. 1725 Dryden Road Freeville, New York 13068 (607) 347-4164 x440 1-877-ALLMODE (toll free) http://www.all-mode.comhttp://www.all-mode.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
Probably make them like us in the Universities looking for jobs to fall back on. They cut all the staff they were projecting to cut this year but if things don't turn around soon they may start cutting more in January and all that is left to cut is staff at this point. Jon On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Rod Trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder how an Obama health care system would affect you all. *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:50 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Healthcare here as well... As a larger portion of the population gets older, our business will continue to grow. However, we are more focused on the 9.5% cut in reimbursement that Medicare is implementing in January! Ouch! -- *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:35 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Lots here in Healthcare, even more than usual. No training, no travelling, nothing outside what is on the docket atm Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -- *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:26 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Bad drive mappings
It should be \\server\users\%username%, From: Eisenberg, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Bad drive mappings Has anyone seen this issue? Users log in, and the login script says 'net use h: /home' which should send them to \\server\users\username, per their AD attribute. However, what happens is that they map to \\server\users instead. It will also happen if you drop to a command prompt and type the same net use line there. You can always manually map to the deeper UNC without issue (so it's not an NTFS ACL issue). It seems to happen more frequently to laptop users than desktop users. Thanks, Wayne ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
Same here, started with 20 then added 10 more licenses, and now I just added 10 more again! The BES and the first 20 lic's was free from Rogers on the initial roll out. I can't emphasize enough how easy it's to manage (adding /deleting) users managing their folder redirects, checking if everything is working e.t.c.. Add did I say secure, I can wipe the device remotely, when a user leaves it in the washroom at the airport in Philadelphia on a long weekend!! I had a few users try the iPhone but they quickly went back to the BB Curve. ___ Stefan Jafs From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question 3 years ago we didn't foresee more than 10 either, now we have 45. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Jim, Are you saying that the connection between BB device and the server is different through Professional than it is with the Enterprise? Specifically, one of my questions was whether there was an RDP client for BB, and Malcom answered that there was, and there was no need for VPN because of the MDS connection. So are you saying that I wouldn't be able to RDP if I use the Professional? We do not run SBS here, and never will. But I'd rather not spend for the Enterprise if I can do the same stuff with Professional. Right now we have maybe 10 WM users, and if we went to BB, they would be moved over to BB. I can't foresee ever needing more than 30 licenses. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Blackberry question
You should go with Pro for now, even if things change down the road and you need more than 30 CALs you can do a trade-up later. The software is the same and just needs a new key to allow for more users. *Beyond 30 users* To expand your deployment beyond 30 users, you can upgrade to BlackBerry Enterprise Server by purchasing a BlackBerry(R) Enterprise Server Trade-up Key. You can purchase the upgrade key through your wireless service provider or online from the BlackBerry Storehttps://www.blackberry.com/purchaseonline/main.jsp. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Joe Heaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well our staff is static. The only people with mobile devices are execs, and IT. Even if they add all the marketing people that would only add another 4 or 5. And if it takes 3 years to get to that point, then I'm still pretty good. My biggest concern right now is functionality between the two versions. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel *From:* N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:58 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Blackberry question 3 years ago we didn't foresee more than 10 either, now we have 45. -- *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:49 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Blackberry question Jim, Are you saying that the connection between BB device and the server is different through Professional than it is with the Enterprise? Specifically, one of my questions was whether there was an RDP client for BB, and Malcom answered that there was, and there was no need for VPN because of the MDS connection. So are you saying that I wouldn't be able to RDP if I use the Professional? We do not run SBS here, and never will. But I'd rather not spend for the Enterprise if I can do the same stuff with Professional. Right now we have maybe 10 WM users, and if we went to BB, they would be moved over to BB. I can't foresee ever needing more than 30 licenses. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel *From:* Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:52 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. *From:* Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. *From:* Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... -- *From:* Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mike Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Bad drive mappings
Well, yes, in the template it is as you say. When you create the user, it becomes \\server\users\weisenberg, or whatever the actual username is. From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bad drive mappings It should be \\server\users\%username%, From: Eisenberg, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Bad drive mappings Has anyone seen this issue? Users log in, and the login script says 'net use h: /home' which should send them to \\server\users\username, per their AD attribute. However, what happens is that they map to \\server\users instead. It will also happen if you drop to a command prompt and type the same net use line there. You can always manually map to the deeper UNC without issue (so it's not an NTFS ACL issue). It seems to happen more frequently to laptop users than desktop users. Thanks, Wayne ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
We've gone from an initial 50 users to 160+ in three years' time... From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Same here, started with 20 then added 10 more licenses, and now I just added 10 more again! The BES and the first 20 lic's was free from Rogers on the initial roll out. I can't emphasize enough how easy it's to manage (adding /deleting) users managing their folder redirects, checking if everything is working e.t.c.. Add did I say secure, I can wipe the device remotely, when a user leaves it in the washroom at the airport in Philadelphia on a long weekend!! I had a few users try the iPhone but they quickly went back to the BB Curve. ___ Stefan Jafs From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question 3 years ago we didn't foresee more than 10 either, now we have 45. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Jim, Are you saying that the connection between BB device and the server is different through Professional than it is with the Enterprise? Specifically, one of my questions was whether there was an RDP client for BB, and Malcom answered that there was, and there was no need for VPN because of the MDS connection. So are you saying that I wouldn't be able to RDP if I use the Professional? We do not run SBS here, and never will. But I'd rather not spend for the Enterprise if I can do the same stuff with Professional. Right now we have maybe 10 WM users, and if we went to BB, they would be moved over to BB. I can't foresee ever needing more than 30 licenses. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: KB958644
Joe, Not this time. WinRAR shows only 1 DLL, a number of ._p file and a manifest. Would that it were as simple as extracting an MSI file. J - Philip This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 Phil, Have you tried opening the exe with 7-zip, or something similar? Usually, the MSI is inside, and can be extracted. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: KB958644 Hey we all try to hit new lows occasionally some spend a lot of time learning others don't. Jon On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Phil Hershey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of an MSI version of this patch, so that we can push it with a computer policy? Our WSUS server is out of commission temporarily. (Or an idiot-proof way to create an MSI from the EXE for the patch? Yes, I'm the 1D10T.) - Philip This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: KB958644 We've had no issues with the patch. The one issue we thought we had turned out to be to restrictive settings on local laptop firewalls. Steven On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had no issues with the patch either. I've run it on Server 2k3 with and without R2, XP SPs2 3, and Vista SP1. It's all been good, and for once it only takes a few seconds instead of minutes for my servers to reboot after patching. That was a nice change of pace. TVK ...Don deserves it. ;-) From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 NO problems with the MS08-067 Patch, and Dam that was COLD TVK... Funny but Cold. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 That how far back Don regression tests his wives. :-P From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 They probably only regression tested back to 1987. From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 Anyone have any issues with the RPC/SMB patch? One of my users is saying it effected his ProComm. In that all the dialup modem settings reset to defaults. Todd Lemmiksoo Network Administrator All-Mode Communications, Inc. 1725 Dryden Road Freeville, New York 13068 (607) 347-4164 x440 1-877-ALLMODE (toll free) http://www.all-mode.com http://www.all-mode.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: KB958644
Sorry, should have figured you would have tried the easy stuff... Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Phil Hershey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 Joe, Not this time. WinRAR shows only 1 DLL, a number of ._p file and a manifest. Would that it were as simple as extracting an MSI file. J - Philip This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 Phil, Have you tried opening the exe with 7-zip, or something similar? Usually, the MSI is inside, and can be extracted. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: KB958644 Hey we all try to hit new lows occasionally some spend a lot of time learning others don't. Jon On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Phil Hershey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of an MSI version of this patch, so that we can push it with a computer policy? Our WSUS server is out of commission temporarily. (Or an idiot-proof way to create an MSI from the EXE for the patch? Yes, I'm the 1D10T.) - Philip This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: KB958644 We've had no issues with the patch. The one issue we thought we had turned out to be to restrictive settings on local laptop firewalls. Steven On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had no issues with the patch either. I've run it on Server 2k3 with and without R2, XP SPs2 3, and Vista SP1. It's all been good, and for once it only takes a few seconds instead of minutes for my servers to reboot after patching. That was a nice change of pace. TVK ...Don deserves it. ;-) From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 NO problems with the MS08-067 Patch, and Dam that was COLD TVK... Funny but Cold. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 That how far back Don regression tests his wives. :-P From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 They probably only regression tested back to 1987. From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: KB958644 Anyone have any issues with the RPC/SMB patch? One of my users is saying it effected his ProComm. In that all the dialup modem settings reset to defaults. Todd Lemmiksoo Network Administrator All-Mode Communications, Inc. 1725 Dryden Road Freeville, New York 13068 (607) 347-4164 x440 1-877-ALLMODE (toll free) http://www.all-mode.com http://www.all-mode.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Bad drive mappings
Or 'net use h: %homeshare%' - Philip This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bad drive mappings It should be \\server\users\%username%, From: Eisenberg, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Bad drive mappings Has anyone seen this issue? Users log in, and the login script says 'net use h: /home' which should send them to \\server\users\username, per their AD attribute. However, what happens is that they map to \\server\users instead. It will also happen if you drop to a command prompt and type the same net use line there. You can always manually map to the deeper UNC without issue (so it's not an NTFS ACL issue). It seems to happen more frequently to laptop users than desktop users. Thanks, Wayne ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Bad drive mappings
Make sure they're not picking up the higher level mapping from another login script. I had that issue a while back. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Phil Hershey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bad drive mappings Or 'net use h: %homeshare%' - Philip This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bad drive mappings It should be \\server\users\%username%, From: Eisenberg, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Bad drive mappings Has anyone seen this issue? Users log in, and the login script says 'net use h: /home' which should send them to \\server\users\username, per their AD attribute. However, what happens is that they map to \\server\users instead. It will also happen if you drop to a command prompt and type the same net use line there. You can always manually map to the deeper UNC without issue (so it's not an NTFS ACL issue). It seems to happen more frequently to laptop users than desktop users. Thanks, Wayne ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: V2P?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/249694 we have done that with migrations from 2550s to 2950s to remain in support without reloading the OS. I am sure it would work the same with a VM. Basically use NT backup, restore and before rebooting, load the mass storage drivers. -Troy -Original Message- From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: V2P? I know it is easy enough to do a P2V conversion, but is there any way you can go the other way? I have a load of cloned VMWare guests that are all deployed from a template, and now I need this template to be deployed to a single physical Dell PE 2950. Is this possible? Thinking about it, how would you be able to get the hardware devices detected correctly? Does anyone know of any possible way this could be done? TIA, JRR ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Bad drive mappings
Has anyone seen this issue? Users log in, and the login script says 'net use h: /home' which should send them to \\server\users\username, per their AD attribute. However, what happens is that they map to \\server\users instead. It will also happen if you drop to a command prompt and type the same net use line there. You can always manually map to the deeper UNC without issue (so it's not an NTFS ACL issue). It seems to happen more frequently to laptop users than desktop users. Thanks, Wayne ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Citrix XenApp (Presentation Server) client issue
Hi Folks: For those of you using Citrix: Recently both of my Citrix web interface sites started prompting for user ID and password when the ICA client needs to be updated or installed. Previously the user just selected the download button, the client was pulled from one of the Citrix servers, and the install proceeded. I recenlty applied the MS out-of-band patch, but I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it. Suggestions? I am thinking it has something to do with the security settings on the \client\ica directory for web users, but don't want to change any settings unless I really need to do so. Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Citrix XenApp (Presentation Server) client issue
Unless the security settings on that folder changed recently, I can't see how that would be it. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Citrix XenApp (Presentation Server) client issue Hi Folks: For those of you using Citrix: Recently both of my Citrix web interface sites started prompting for user ID and password when the ICA client needs to be updated or installed. Previously the user just selected the download button, the client was pulled from one of the Citrix servers, and the install proceeded. I recenlty applied the MS out-of-band patch, but I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it. Suggestions? I am thinking it has something to do with the security settings on the \client\ica directory for web users, but don't want to change any settings unless I really need to do so. Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Citrix XenApp (Presentation Server) client issue
Haven't - very odd. Joe Heaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/29/2008 12:17 PM Unless the security settings on that folder changed recently, I can’t see how that would be it. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From:Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Citrix XenApp (Presentation Server) client issue Hi Folks: For those of you using Citrix: Recently both of my Citrix web interface sites started prompting for user ID and password when the ICA client needs to be updated or installed. Previously the user just selected the download button, the client was pulled from one of the Citrix servers, and the install proceeded. I recenlty applied the MS out-of-band patch, but I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it. Suggestions? I am thinking it has something to do with the security settings on the \client\ica directory for web users, but don't want to change any settings unless I really need to do so. Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
Hmm, the product I used was called Rove Mobile Desktop and it was just a stand-alone RDP client for the Blackberry handheld - no server side software was involved. I just looked at the Rove site and it has completely changed. It seems they have bundled everything in to the Mobile Admin package and won't sell the individual pieces any longer, which is not making some customers happy http://www.berryreview.com/2008/09/25/rant-whats-up-with-rove-mobile/ . Too bad. The only other RDP client I know of is the TSMobiles one available at www.rdmplus.com. I'm looking at the eval version right now and it looks pretty decent. The price is about $45. Malcolm From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008 10:13 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question This is a question you may want to ask that RDP tools vendor. I downloaded that RDP app yesterday. I didn't get it installed because it wants SQL and some other crap I wasn't prepared to do at the moment. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Well our staff is static. The only people with mobile devices are execs, and IT. Even if they add all the marketing people that would only add another 4 or 5. And if it takes 3 years to get to that point, then I'm still pretty good. My biggest concern right now is functionality between the two versions. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question 3 years ago we didn't foresee more than 10 either, now we have 45. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Jim, Are you saying that the connection between BB device and the server is different through Professional than it is with the Enterprise? Specifically, one of my questions was whether there was an RDP client for BB, and Malcom answered that there was, and there was no need for VPN because of the MDS connection. So are you saying that I wouldn't be able to RDP if I use the Professional? We do not run SBS here, and never will. But I'd rather not spend for the Enterprise if I can do the same stuff with Professional. Right now we have maybe 10 WM users, and if we went to BB, they would be moved over to BB. I can't foresee ever needing more than 30 licenses. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the
RE: Basic Drive Partition Question
No. Actually partitioning like that is likely to hurt. -sc From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Basic Drive Partition Question We've been arguing here...and I can't find anything definitive on Google... Is there any gain in performance if you have a single (NTFS) drive in two partitions? One partition for the OS and the other for everything else? I say no but it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.gif
RE: Citrix XenApp (Presentation Server) client issue
Just created another site on the server and I get the same error. Must be security settings somewhere. Joe Heaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/29/2008 12:17 PM Unless the security settings on that folder changed recently, I can’t see how that would be it. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From:Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Citrix XenApp (Presentation Server) client issue Hi Folks: For those of you using Citrix: Recently both of my Citrix web interface sites started prompting for user ID and password when the ICA client needs to be updated or installed. Previously the user just selected the download button, the client was pulled from one of the Citrix servers, and the install proceeded. I recenlty applied the MS out-of-band patch, but I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it. Suggestions? I am thinking it has something to do with the security settings on the \client\ica directory for web users, but don't want to change any settings unless I really need to do so. Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Citrix XenApp (Presentation Server) client issue
Check and verify your IIS server is functioning. I had mine go off-line after the patch and it was not noticed for part of the day. A restart fixed the issue but maybe that is it? Jon On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Tom Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just created another site on the server and I get the same error. Must be security settings somewhere. Joe Heaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/29/2008 12:17 PM Unless the security settings on that folder changed recently, I can't see how that would be it. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:12 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Citrix XenApp (Presentation Server) client issue Hi Folks: For those of you using Citrix: Recently both of my Citrix web interface sites started prompting for user ID and password when the ICA client needs to be updated or installed. Previously the user just selected the download button, the client was pulled from one of the Citrix servers, and the install proceeded. I recenlty applied the MS out-of-band patch, but I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it. Suggestions? I am thinking it has something to do with the security settings on the \client\ica directory for web users, but don't want to change any settings unless I really need to do so. Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
Being someone who works closely with the housing market, the skid is nowhere near the end... Expect more... On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The college educational system which has grown by 440% in costs should be able to not be cutting budgets. IMO I think no matter who the President is everything will be better afterwards, whether we get the big spender and everyone sells stuff to the govt and we can cut out healthcare and use the govt's system to save money, or the cost saver gets in and it goes back to business as usual. Bush isn't going to do anything between now and then so that's probably why everything is topsy turvey, home sales went up last month for the first time so I think the end of the skid is coming to a close. (Thank God) On this end, I have seen a noticeable drop off in business, as a consultant, however, nothing worse than usual as the end of year is coming up and all the holidays, usually November/December are slow and I get a couple of big projects with the downtime, so we will see if I get those approved. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Citrix XenApp (Presentation Server) client issue
It's running. Check and verify your IIS server is functioning. I had mine go off-line after the patch and it was not noticed for part of the day. A restart fixed the issue but maybe that is it? Jon On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Tom Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just created another site on the server and I get the same error. Must be security settings somewhere. Joe Heaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/29/2008 12:17 PM Unless the security settings on that folder changed recently, I can't see how that would be it. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From:Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Citrix XenApp (Presentation Server) client issue Hi Folks: For those of you using Citrix: Recently both of my Citrix web interface sites started prompting for user ID and password when the ICA client needs to be updated or installed. Previously the user just selected the download button, the client was pulled from one of the Citrix servers, and the install proceeded. I recenlty applied the MS out-of-band patch, but I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it. Suggestions? I am thinking it has something to do with the security settings on the \client\ica directory for web users, but don't want to change any settings unless I really need to do so. Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/29/2008 12:44 PM Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Bad drive mappings
Nope. Only one script that runs. Like I said, I can remove any h: drive mapping, run 'net use h: /home' from a command prompt and get the same wrong result - no deep mapping. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bad drive mappings Make sure they're not picking up the higher level mapping from another login script. I had that issue a while back. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Phil Hershey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bad drive mappings Or 'net use h: %homeshare%' - Philip This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Bad drive mappings It should be \\server\users\%username%, From: Eisenberg, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Bad drive mappings Has anyone seen this issue? Users log in, and the login script says 'net use h: /home' which should send them to \\server\users\username, per their AD attribute. However, what happens is that they map to \\server\users instead. It will also happen if you drop to a command prompt and type the same net use line there. You can always manually map to the deeper UNC without issue (so it's not an NTFS ACL issue). It seems to happen more frequently to laptop users than desktop users. Thanks, Wayne ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
We are commercial architecture and enginnering firm. We are pretty diversified. We do a LOT of military and govt jobs at many levels, some educational work. We are hiring left and right. We expanded our facilities a year ago - added about 30 cubicles and they are almost full now. Total around 120 to 130 employees at any time. Next Tuesday may change the govt landscape, about a year out from now, but we have plenty of work in the pipeline. We purchased about 90 high end workstations/laptops in Jan of this year. We upgraded the whole shebang to AutoCAD/Revit 2009 suite which aint cheap. Then we bought a few licenses of microstation v9(?). Then upgraded a bunch of engineering apps for Vista (that was fun). We will prob replace most of our real servers this year (5 PowerEdge's 29xx and 28xx's) and move to Exch 2007 on VMWare ESX if I have my say. I am pretty much able to ask for anything and get it within reason, and to ring my own bell thats because I only ask for things that we can use. Heck last year I asked for double take for our main file server and got it approved in minutes. Never had to use it though. If I want I could show up at 5AM and leave at 10PM. If anyone knows any experienced project manager types that could move to Oklahoma, email me off list (*I get a bonus if you hire on*!). Over and out. -Devin On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Alex Eckelberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex -- Devin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
Can we all come work for you? :) Phil From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? We are commercial architecture and enginnering firm. We are pretty diversified. We do a LOT of military and govt jobs at many levels, some educational work. We are hiring left and right. We expanded our facilities a year ago - added about 30 cubicles and they are almost full now. Total around 120 to 130 employees at any time. Next Tuesday may change the govt landscape, about a year out from now, but we have plenty of work in the pipeline. We purchased about 90 high end workstations/laptops in Jan of this year. We upgraded the whole shebang to AutoCAD/Revit 2009 suite which aint cheap. Then we bought a few licenses of microstation v9(?). Then upgraded a bunch of engineering apps for Vista (that was fun). We will prob replace most of our real servers this year (5 PowerEdge's 29xx and 28xx's) and move to Exch 2007 on VMWare ESX if I have my say. I am pretty much able to ask for anything and get it within reason, and to ring my own bell thats because I only ask for things that we can use. Heck last year I asked for double take for our main file server and got it approved in minutes. Never had to use it though. If I want I could show up at 5AM and leave at 10PM. If anyone knows any experienced project manager types that could move to Oklahoma, email me off list (I get a bonus if you hire on!). Over and out. -Devin On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Alex Eckelberry [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex -- Devin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
Blackstone told me that you're description applies to your underwear as well as the housing market. Shook From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Being someone who works closely with the housing market, the skid is nowhere near the end... Expect more... On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The college educational system which has grown by 440% in costs should be able to not be cutting budgets. IMO I think no matter who the President is everything will be better afterwards, whether we get the big spender and everyone sells stuff to the govt and we can cut out healthcare and use the govt's system to save money, or the cost saver gets in and it goes back to business as usual. Bush isn't going to do anything between now and then so that's probably why everything is topsy turvey, home sales went up last month for the first time so I think the end of the skid is coming to a close. (Thank God) On this end, I have seen a noticeable drop off in business, as a consultant, however, nothing worse than usual as the end of year is coming up and all the holidays, usually November/December are slow and I get a couple of big projects with the downtime, so we will see if I get those approved. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
In that case wouldn't the skid be at the end? Clayton Doige IT Project Manager CME Development Corporation T: 020 7430 5355 M: 07949 255062 E:[EMAIL PROTECTED] W:www.cetv-net.com From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2008 17:00 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Blackstone told me that you're description applies to your underwear as well as the housing market. Shook From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Being someone who works closely with the housing market, the skid is nowhere near the end... Expect more... On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The college educational system which has grown by 440% in costs should be able to not be cutting budgets. IMO I think no matter who the President is everything will be better afterwards, whether we get the big spender and everyone sells stuff to the govt and we can cut out healthcare and use the govt's system to save money, or the cost saver gets in and it goes back to business as usual. Bush isn't going to do anything between now and then so that's probably why everything is topsy turvey, home sales went up last month for the first time so I think the end of the skid is coming to a close. (Thank God) On this end, I have seen a noticeable drop off in business, as a consultant, however, nothing worse than usual as the end of year is coming up and all the holidays, usually November/December are slow and I get a couple of big projects with the downtime, so we will see if I get those approved. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __ __ This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this message or its contents may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by electronic mail and delete the original message and any attachments without retaining any copies. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
The college educational system which has grown by 440% in costs should be able to not be cutting budgets. IMO I think no matter who the President is everything will be better afterwards, whether we get the big spender and everyone sells stuff to the govt and we can cut out healthcare and use the govt's system to save money, or the cost saver gets in and it goes back to business as usual. Bush isn't going to do anything between now and then so that's probably why everything is topsy turvey, home sales went up last month for the first time so I think the end of the skid is coming to a close. (Thank God) On this end, I have seen a noticeable drop off in business, as a consultant, however, nothing worse than usual as the end of year is coming up and all the holidays, usually November/December are slow and I get a couple of big projects with the downtime, so we will see if I get those approved. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
I think there is always more skid to come. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Doige, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: In that case wouldn't the skid be at the end? *Clayton Doige* IT Project Manager *C**M**E** Development Corporation* T: 020 7430 5355 M: 07949 255062 E:[EMAIL PROTECTED] W:www.cetv-net.com *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 29 October 2008 17:00 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Blackstone told me that you're description applies to your underwear as well as the housing market. Shook *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:46 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Being someone who works closely with the housing market, the skid is nowhere near the end... Expect more... On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The college educational system which has grown by 440% in costs should be able to not be cutting budgets. IMO I think no matter who the President is everything will be better afterwards, whether we get the big spender and everyone sells stuff to the govt and we can cut out healthcare and use the govt's system to save money, or the cost saver gets in and it goes back to business as usual. Bush isn't going to do anything between now and then so that's probably why everything is topsy turvey, home sales went up last month for the first time so I think the end of the skid is coming to a close. (Thank God) On this end, I have seen a noticeable drop off in business, as a consultant, however, nothing worse than usual as the end of year is coming up and all the holidays, usually November/December are slow and I get a couple of big projects with the downtime, so we will see if I get those approved. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __ __ This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this message or its contents may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by electronic mail and delete the original message and any attachments without retaining any copies. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Bad drive mappings
Proper permissions on the folders? The users can access their folder and nobody elses? On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Eisenberg, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope. Only one script that runs. Like I said, I can remove any h: drive mapping, run 'net use h: /home' from a command prompt and get the same wrong result - no deep mapping. -- *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:02 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Bad drive mappings Make sure they're not picking up the higher level mapping from another login script. I had that issue a while back. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel *From:* Phil Hershey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:59 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Bad drive mappings Or 'net use h: %homeshare%' - Philip This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *From:* Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *NTSysAdmin *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:47 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Bad drive mappings It should be \\server\users\%username%, *From:* Eisenberg, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:36 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Bad drive mappings Has anyone seen this issue? Users log in, and the login script says 'net use h: /home' which should send them to *\\server\users\username*, per their AD attribute. However, what happens is that they map to *\\server\users* instead. It will also happen if you drop to a command prompt and type the same net use line there. You can always manually map to the deeper UNC without issue (so it's not an NTFS ACL issue). It seems to happen more frequently to laptop users than desktop users. Thanks, Wayne ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
Slight but minimal really change for my day job, my 4 clients from my night gig (3 govt gigs and a law firm) - zero change. Dave From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
Not much change here either (small, rural hospital, 92 bed). Our FY began Oct so our capital purchases were already approved and money allocated. Next year's capital budget will probably be a slash and burn. :( Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 _ From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? Slight but minimal really change for my day job, my 4 clients from my night gig (3 govt gigs and a law firm) - zero change. Dave _ From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Bad drive mappings
From the thread, I understand there is a principle here. However, why use net use... in a script? OR, does filling in the Home directory space in the user's AD Profile tab essentially make a script (which will not run)? I've never had any problems creating the directory \\server\users\username, sharing it as \\server\username$, and connecting that way... -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Eisenberg, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/29/2008 10:36:28 AM: Has anyone seen this issue? Users log in, and the login script says 'net use h: /home' which should send them to \\server\users\username, per their AD attribute. However, what happens is that they map to \\server\users instead. It will also happen if you drop to a command prompt and type the same net use line there. You can always manually map to the deeper UNC without issue (so it's not an NTFS ACL issue). It seems to happen more frequently to laptop users than desktop users. Thanks, Wayne ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
We're not buying a whole lot, and what is being bought is cheap cheap cheap, and alot of used Ebay purchases for things like switches to keep cost down. I dont know the books and am not given a formal budget to work with, so I don't know behind-the-scenes how the company is doing, but at least we don't seem to have a shortfall of work. Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 _ From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex _ If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.OnlyMyEmail.com/ReportSpam http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6Nzg0NzMzMjE4O nBqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Bad drive mappings
I usually do this mapping within AD myself, but that's not how it was being done prior to my arrival... Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Bad drive mappings From the thread, I understand there is a principle here. However, why use net use... in a script? OR, does filling in the Home directory space in the user's AD Profile tab essentially make a script (which will not run)? I've never had any problems creating the directory \\server\users\username, sharing it as \\server\username$, and connecting that way... -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Eisenberg, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/29/2008 10:36:28 AM: Has anyone seen this issue? Users log in, and the login script says 'net use h: /home' which should send them to \\server\users\username, per their AD attribute. However, what happens is that they map to \\server\users instead. It will also happen if you drop to a command prompt and type the same net use line there. You can always manually map to the deeper UNC without issue (so it's not an NTFS ACL issue). It seems to happen more frequently to laptop users than desktop users. Thanks, Wayne ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?
I work for a non-profit in New York that is relies heavily on state and federal funding. We provide many services for people with disabilities. We already got hit with a retroactive funding cut of a couple hundred thousand dollars, and from what we can tell with NY forecasting extreme cuts going forward we are going to in a real bind for 2009. For the remainder of this year we are going ahead with purchases that were already budgeted if they are critical but anything that is not critical we are not purchasing. We expect to be in maintenance mode for 2009, buying only what we need to keep functioning. -Original Message- From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and many, many others make). How are you seeing the recession impact your buying decisions? Are you being told to hold off until later? Is it business as usual? Or is it a bloodletting? Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive stuff? Etc., etc. Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at the situation realistically. Alex Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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RE: Blackberry question
Sorry for the confusion. I was thinking of an even smaller version they don't have any more (I think they called it Executive or something, that was free, stripped the MDS Integration and was specific to SBS only). I'm not familiar with RDP clients. None of my customers have that need from their phone. Professional would be fine for your needs especially if you install it on a machine separate from your exchange. That way upgrading to Enterprise when the time comes is just a matter of changing the registration key. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Jim, Are you saying that the connection between BB device and the server is different through Professional than it is with the Enterprise? Specifically, one of my questions was whether there was an RDP client for BB, and Malcom answered that there was, and there was no need for VPN because of the MDS connection. So are you saying that I wouldn't be able to RDP if I use the Professional? We do not run SBS here, and never will. But I'd rather not spend for the Enterprise if I can do the same stuff with Professional. Right now we have maybe 10 WM users, and if we went to BB, they would be moved over to BB. I can't foresee ever needing more than 30 licenses. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... _ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
I always have a problem with PPC RDP clients. I mean how do you manage a server from a 2 LCD? It takes 5 minutes to pan down to the start button and then you have to pan all over the place to do anything. Crazy!! From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Sorry for the confusion. I was thinking of an even smaller version they don't have any more (I think they called it Executive or something, that was free, stripped the MDS Integration and was specific to SBS only). I'm not familiar with RDP clients. None of my customers have that need from their phone. Professional would be fine for your needs especially if you install it on a machine separate from your exchange. That way upgrading to Enterprise when the time comes is just a matter of changing the registration key. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Jim, Are you saying that the connection between BB device and the server is different through Professional than it is with the Enterprise? Specifically, one of my questions was whether there was an RDP client for BB, and Malcom answered that there was, and there was no need for VPN because of the MDS connection. So are you saying that I wouldn't be able to RDP if I use the Professional? We do not run SBS here, and never will. But I'd rather not spend for the Enterprise if I can do the same stuff with Professional. Right now we have maybe 10 WM users, and if we went to BB, they would be moved over to BB. I can't foresee ever needing more than 30 licenses. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... _ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
I always have a problem with PPC RDP clients. I mean how do you manage a server from a 2 LCD? It takes 5 minutes to pan down to the start button and then you have to pan all over the place to do anything. Crazy!! From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Sorry for the confusion. I was thinking of an even smaller version they don't have any more (I think they called it Executive or something, that was free, stripped the MDS Integration and was specific to SBS only). I'm not familiar with RDP clients. None of my customers have that need from their phone. Professional would be fine for your needs especially if you install it on a machine separate from your exchange. That way upgrading to Enterprise when the time comes is just a matter of changing the registration key. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Jim, Are you saying that the connection between BB device and the server is different through Professional than it is with the Enterprise? Specifically, one of my questions was whether there was an RDP client for BB, and Malcom answered that there was, and there was no need for VPN because of the MDS connection. So are you saying that I wouldn't be able to RDP if I use the Professional? We do not run SBS here, and never will. But I'd rather not spend for the Enterprise if I can do the same stuff with Professional. Right now we have maybe 10 WM users, and if we went to BB, they would be moved over to BB. I can't foresee ever needing more than 30 licenses. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... _ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
I always have a problem with PPC RDP clients. I mean how do you manage a server from a 2 LCD? It takes 5 minutes to pan down to the start button and then you have to pan all over the place to do anything. Crazy!! From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Sorry for the confusion. I was thinking of an even smaller version they don't have any more (I think they called it Executive or something, that was free, stripped the MDS Integration and was specific to SBS only). I'm not familiar with RDP clients. None of my customers have that need from their phone. Professional would be fine for your needs especially if you install it on a machine separate from your exchange. That way upgrading to Enterprise when the time comes is just a matter of changing the registration key. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Jim, Are you saying that the connection between BB device and the server is different through Professional than it is with the Enterprise? Specifically, one of my questions was whether there was an RDP client for BB, and Malcom answered that there was, and there was no need for VPN because of the MDS connection. So are you saying that I wouldn't be able to RDP if I use the Professional? We do not run SBS here, and never will. But I'd rather not spend for the Enterprise if I can do the same stuff with Professional. Right now we have maybe 10 WM users, and if we went to BB, they would be moved over to BB. I can't foresee ever needing more than 30 licenses. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... _ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
I always have a problem with PPC RDP clients. I mean how do you manage a server from a 2 LCD? It takes 5 minutes to pan down to the start button and then you have to pan all over the place to do anything. Crazy!! From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Sorry for the confusion. I was thinking of an even smaller version they don't have any more (I think they called it Executive or something, that was free, stripped the MDS Integration and was specific to SBS only). I'm not familiar with RDP clients. None of my customers have that need from their phone. Professional would be fine for your needs especially if you install it on a machine separate from your exchange. That way upgrading to Enterprise when the time comes is just a matter of changing the registration key. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Jim, Are you saying that the connection between BB device and the server is different through Professional than it is with the Enterprise? Specifically, one of my questions was whether there was an RDP client for BB, and Malcom answered that there was, and there was no need for VPN because of the MDS connection. So are you saying that I wouldn't be able to RDP if I use the Professional? We do not run SBS here, and never will. But I'd rather not spend for the Enterprise if I can do the same stuff with Professional. Right now we have maybe 10 WM users, and if we went to BB, they would be moved over to BB. I can't foresee ever needing more than 30 licenses. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... _ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Blackberry question
I always have a problem with PPC RDP clients. I mean how do you manage a server from a 2 LCD? It takes 5 minutes to pan down to the start button and then you have to pan all over the place to do anything. Crazy!! From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Sorry for the confusion. I was thinking of an even smaller version they don't have any more (I think they called it Executive or something, that was free, stripped the MDS Integration and was specific to SBS only). I'm not familiar with RDP clients. None of my customers have that need from their phone. Professional would be fine for your needs especially if you install it on a machine separate from your exchange. That way upgrading to Enterprise when the time comes is just a matter of changing the registration key. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Jim, Are you saying that the connection between BB device and the server is different through Professional than it is with the Enterprise? Specifically, one of my questions was whether there was an RDP client for BB, and Malcom answered that there was, and there was no need for VPN because of the MDS connection. So are you saying that I wouldn't be able to RDP if I use the Professional? We do not run SBS here, and never will. But I'd rather not spend for the Enterprise if I can do the same stuff with Professional. Right now we have maybe 10 WM users, and if we went to BB, they would be moved over to BB. I can't foresee ever needing more than 30 licenses. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Professional is designed specifically for the SBS market. If you are planning on ever deploying more than 30 phones or not in an SBS environment or want MDS, you should always just go with Enterprise on its own box, even if it's just an old used PC. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I've noticed that as well. I would never ever install BES directly on my Exchange server. From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question I note from that side-by-side that Professional is 'sized to run on email server', which I thought was interesting... _ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry question Your execs sound like smart guys. Here is a product comparison. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It won't support over 30 BB devices. From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Blackberry question Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. Thanks, Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~