Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 12 Aug 2010 at 10:11, John Aldrich  wrote:

> Yes. It's customizable in the admin console.

You can, however, bypass it if you have local admin rights by stopping the 
Agent service.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





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RE: SBS2008, RWWP keeps asking for password

[Groups]

Plot thickens..

 

I have this in the TS event viewer:

"The TS Gateway service is shutting down. To diagnose possible causes for
this problem, verify whether the following services are installed and
started: (1) World Wide Web Publishing Service (2) Internet Authentication
Service (IAS) (3) RPC/HTTP Load Balancing Service. Also, check Event Viewer
for Network Policy Server (NPS) and IIS events that might indicate problems
with NPS or IIS."

 

I have check all the service and they are fine.

If I restart the TS Gateway service, everything works till it dies again
with this error.

 

Thanks for your input.

 

 

From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS2008, RWWP keeps asking for password

 

Hi all,
 
Helping a friend troubleshoot an SBS issue.
The user goes to https://fqdn/remote.
Logs in as domain admin.
Clicks on Connect to a computer.
Selects the server.
Once he hits connect, it keeps asking for credentials and not accepting any.
 
Anyone have any ideas?
 
Thank

 

 

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Re: Avast : Does avast enterprise have a 800 tech line.

[justino garcia]

DID that and called that number from google links, and guess what only for
home version, not enterprise

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=phone+support+avast
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:31 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Avast : Does avast enterprise have a 800 tech line.
>
>
>
> I have a client, who has still has one year and half left of his threes of
> avast, and I am having a bit of issue and need support with the console app,
> any ideas if they have some type of phone tech support for avast enterprise?
>
> --
> Justin
> IT-TECH
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

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RE: Avast : Does avast enterprise have a 800 tech line.

[Michael B. Smith]

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=phone+support+avast

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Avast : Does avast enterprise have a 800 tech line.

I have a client, who has still has one year and half left of his threes of 
avast, and I am having a bit of issue and need support with the console app, 
any ideas if they have some type of phone tech support for avast enterprise?

--
Justin
IT-TECH





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Avast : Does avast enterprise have a 800 tech line.

[justino garcia]

I have a client, who has still has one year and half left of his threes of
avast, and I am having a bit of issue and need support with the console app,
any ideas if they have some type of phone tech support for avast enterprise?

-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[justino garcia]

how I never understood how.

This is what  I have 2003 server; Vipre 4.0.
We had two clients (two different offices, and clients).
We wanted to include in that same server, the one client with vipre perium
to be managed int he same console as our other client with viper enterprise.
We could, so I created a VM machine on that same box just for vipre premium.


Know we would like to add other just enterprise version of vipre to that
same console, (i.e. other sites, to this console) so we can manage from this
console. And just add update consolse at their offices. ( we did get the
update server setup for enteprrise at the one office), and the vipre console
ont he server to work that worked fine.

But WE want to do MSP.

ALso I had a hard time, to understand how I can install vipre console on my
laptop, just so I can remote and manage the machines, I don't want to be a
policy server just management, like scan or change settings.


Any idea>?

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

> Version 4's console is designed to be more MSP-friendly with multiple sites
> (companies) managed from the same console.  You could even have client
> machines with the same needs in different sites now.
>
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
> When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't
> nothin' like it!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:21 PM, justino garcia 
> wrote:
>
>> I guess version 4.0 does not require a reboot for agent on updates. 3.5
>> did.
>> I wish it was more geared towards hosting, or a hosted console.
>> We manage 12 small comapnies, and 2 bigs ones. I would like for it be a
>> hosted service, more so then it is now.
>> SO if I can a call for malware problem, I can logon to console and check
>> vipre, even run a scan check if it up to date, but all in one CONSOLE
>> /server. Maybe a web interface. Also since I see that vipre works with
>> malware bytes, maybe adding feature so you can scan via malwarebytes, from a
>> remote console.
>>
>> Overall vipre been good, and I think we will stick wih it, it has good
>> detection rate, and so far thier higher end tech support seemed to be good.
>>
>>
>> Does Sophos offer a hosting / hosted service version???
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Evan Brastow <
>> ebras...@automatedemblem.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Agreed. Excellent evaluation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I had been looking for something to replace VIPRE and may give Sophos a
>>> try.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:54 PM
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested
>>> both)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well done on the evaluation, Jeff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I expect that it will be helpful to many, including Sunbelt.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
>>> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>>> * *
>>>
>>> Signature powered by WiseStamp 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jeff S. Gottlieb <
>>> jeff.s.gottl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are in an SMB environment of roughly 60 servers and 1000 hosts,
>>> including Server 2003, 2008, SBS2003, SBS2008, XP Pro SP3, Windows 7, and
>>> Vista workstations. Sophos Endpoint Security along with PureMessaging, and
>>> Vipre Enterprise Premium along with Vipre Email Security are being put to
>>> the test head-to-head.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are staunch fans of Sunbelt Software.  Our experiences with Vipre
>>> Email Security (much improved over Ninja) has been great over the years.
>>> For over 10-years we have placed our trust in Trend Micro, something that
>>> has deteriorated slowly over the past 24-months.  In any event, we are
>>> hoping that our published comparisons will meet objectivity, and help to
>>> give reassurance to future Vipre users regardless of the decisions we
>>> ultimately made.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Sunbelt *'NT System Admin Issues'* forum has been a great help,
>>> dating back to April, more specifically…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 4/01/2010 Subject: Enterprise Anti-Virus, rz...@qwest.net
>>>
>>> 4/21/2010 Subject: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise, jholmg...@xlhealth.com
>>>
>>> 5/06/2010 Subject: NOD32 Antivirus, jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu
>>>
>>> 5/09/2010 Subject: Life just keeps getting better,
>>> kurt.b...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> 7/29/2010 Subject: Vipre effectiveness & false positives,
>>> c.house...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *1) Installation / Deployment*
>>>
>>> Server installs both went smooth.  In deployment Sophos had few if any
>>> issues. Viper deployment to server required countless exclusions (painfully
>>> so)… in fact when our server crashed, we were told that a few exclusions
>>> were missing (Agh!). Viper deployment to host on two systems came with MANY
>>> surprises. The Vipre agent loaded a “NDIS IM” element in the TCPIP stack,
>>> causing CISCO (IPSec) clients to connect… od

SBS2008, RWWP keeps asking for password

[Groups]

Hi all,
 
Helping a friend troubleshoot an SBS issue.
The user goes to https://fqdn/remote.
Logs in as domain admin.
Clicks on Connect to a computer.
Selects the server.
Once he hits connect, it keeps asking for credentials and not accepting any.
 
Anyone have any ideas?
 
Thank

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~   ~

RE: WSUS 3.0 Problem

[David L Herrick]

Bob,

 

If you want manual control in the console go to options computers and
change it

I found it much easier to us my AD groups --- once I had thing sorted
out

 

From: Bob Anderson [mailto:bander...@kentwatersports.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WSUS 3.0 Problem

 

David,

Thanks for the reply.  Yes I did run it that way, is
there a way to fix it?

 

 

Bob 

IT Manager

 

From: David L Herrick [mailto:davidherr...@nincal.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WSUS 3.0 Problem

 

Sounds like you ran setup to utilize groups from AD which keeps you from
manually moving them in WSUS, the automatically get assigned - providing
you created groups in WSUS that have names identical to the AD groups

 

From: Bob Anderson [mailto:bander...@kentwatersports.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WSUS 3.0 Problem

 

Hello,

New WSUS user here and I have a problem.

 

The WSUS runs on a Windows Server 2008 R2 Virtual Machine under Hyper-V

Everything installed fine and it found the updates correctly and it
found my computers in Active Directory fine

I have setup 6 Computer Groups under All Computers no problem but when I
try to move computers from Unassigned Computers to a Group the option is
greyed out both in a right-click and under the action drop down.

 

I verified that I am a member of WSUS Admins still no luck

 

The server is being accessed through Remote Desktop Connection Manager
v2.2

 

Thanks in advance

 

Bob Anderson

 

IT Manager

Kent Sporting Goods Inc.

433 Park Ave. S

New London OH 44851

419-929-7021 x315

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Names in the News
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RE: WSUS 3.0 Problem

[Bob Anderson]

David,
Thanks for the reply.  Yes I did run it that way, is there a 
way to fix it?


Bob
IT Manager

From: David L Herrick [mailto:davidherr...@nincal.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WSUS 3.0 Problem

Sounds like you ran setup to utilize groups from AD which keeps you from 
manually moving them in WSUS, the automatically get assigned - providing you 
created groups in WSUS that have names identical to the AD groups

From: Bob Anderson [mailto:bander...@kentwatersports.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WSUS 3.0 Problem

Hello,
New WSUS user here and I have a problem.

The WSUS runs on a Windows Server 2008 R2 Virtual Machine under Hyper-V
Everything installed fine and it found the updates correctly and it found my 
computers in Active Directory fine
I have setup 6 Computer Groups under All Computers no problem but when I try to 
move computers from Unassigned Computers to a Group the option is greyed out 
both in a right-click and under the action drop down.

I verified that I am a member of WSUS Admins still no luck

The server is being accessed through Remote Desktop Connection Manager v2.2

Thanks in advance

Bob Anderson

IT Manager
Kent Sporting Goods Inc.
433 Park Ave. S
New London OH 44851
419-929-7021 x315
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.







Regards,



David Herrick
Chief Financial Officer - Executive Vice President
Names in the News
180 Grand Avenue Suite 1545
Oakland, CA 94612
415 989-3350
415 433 7796 Fax
davidherr...@nincal.com
www.namesinthenews.com

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RE: WSUS 3.0 Problem

[David L Herrick]

Sounds like you ran setup to utilize groups from AD which keeps you from
manually moving them in WSUS, the automatically get assigned - providing
you created groups in WSUS that have names identical to the AD groups

 

From: Bob Anderson [mailto:bander...@kentwatersports.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WSUS 3.0 Problem

 

Hello,

New WSUS user here and I have a problem.

 

The WSUS runs on a Windows Server 2008 R2 Virtual Machine under Hyper-V

Everything installed fine and it found the updates correctly and it
found my computers in Active Directory fine

I have setup 6 Computer Groups under All Computers no problem but when I
try to move computers from Unassigned Computers to a Group the option is
greyed out both in a right-click and under the action drop down.

 

I verified that I am a member of WSUS Admins still no luck

 

The server is being accessed through Remote Desktop Connection Manager
v2.2

 

Thanks in advance

 

Bob Anderson

 

IT Manager

Kent Sporting Goods Inc.

433 Park Ave. S

New London OH 44851

419-929-7021 x315

P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

 

 

 


 

Regards,

David Herrick

Chief Financial Officer - Executive Vice President
Names in the News
180 Grand Avenue
Suite 1545
Oakland, CA 94612
415 989-3350
415 433 7796 Fax
davidherr...@nincal.com
www.namesinthenews.com 

 


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WSUS 3.0 Problem

[Bob Anderson]

Hello,
New WSUS user here and I have a problem.

The WSUS runs on a Windows Server 2008 R2 Virtual Machine under Hyper-V
Everything installed fine and it found the updates correctly and it found my 
computers in Active Directory fine
I have setup 6 Computer Groups under All Computers no problem but when I try to 
move computers from Unassigned Computers to a Group the option is greyed out 
both in a right-click and under the action drop down.

I verified that I am a member of WSUS Admins still no luck

The server is being accessed through Remote Desktop Connection Manager v2.2

Thanks in advance

Bob Anderson

IT Manager
Kent Sporting Goods Inc.
433 Park Ave. S
New London OH 44851
419-929-7021 x315
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.


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Re: Online Filesharing Service

[Jon Harris]

I have used the SkyDrive in the past it worked well with different people
having different levels of access and access to different things depending
on the need.

Jon

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Roger Wright  wrote:

> Box.net and MS's SkyDrive come to mind.
>
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
> When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't
> nothin' like it!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:10 AM, David Minich wrote:
>
>> I am looking for recommendations and advice for an online filesharing
>> services. Any recommendations appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> dminich
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: SCSM 2010

[Jon Harris]

If you use any of the System Center products get on Rod's MyITForum.  A lot
of the System Center people on those list really know the products and how
to make them sing.

Jon

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  For the OP: it was probably Rod Trent.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
>
>
> *From:* Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:15 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: SCSM 2010
>
>
>
> *>* I can't wait for this to go into full release, I've been looking for a
> product like this for a long time.
>
> * *
>
> *The product is commercially available…*
>
> * *
>
> *Thanks,*
>
> *Brian Desmond*
>
> *br...@briandesmond.com*
>
> * *
>
> *c - 312.731.3132*
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:56 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* SCSM 2010
>
>
>
> Can I just say a big thankyou to whoever pointed out System Center Service
> Manager on the list over the last couple of days (I can't remember who it
> was). I've just been playing with the eval version, and that looks to me
> like one of the best products MS have put out in a long time. The guy who
> developed our helpdesk solution, however, is now spitting feathers as all of
> his work simply looks rather rubbish when matched against this MS beastie.
>
> I can't wait for this to go into full release, I've been looking for a
> product like this for a long time. It is quite simply awesome-cakes.
>
> Cheers!
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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>

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RE: processor utilization question

[Michael B. Smith]

They aren't measuring the same things.

[[Obligatory-Dig-At-Shooky: I can always tell when SOMEONE didn't buy my OpsMgr 
book and read the section on "Processors" in "Generic System Information", 
starting on page 35. :)]]

A hypervisor allocates a timeslice to a VM. A VM wakes up, "does stuff", and 
then exits the timeslice. The hypervisor knows EXACTLY HOW MUCH TIME it 
allocated to the VM. It's measurement is "real". (Now, VMWare does [IMO] really 
really stupid crap when you allocate multiple vCPUs to a VM, but let's not talk 
about that right now.)

Now, copy-n-pasting from my book: A processor utilization measurement is made 
every tick, where a tick is an interrupt from the system clock. Ticks are 
exactly 10 milliseconds apart. With today's fast processors, a processor may 
have been busy at some point during a tick (in any of the five states) ... 
Because of this ... the sum total of all individual tasks' processor time is 
higher than expected.

The reasons behind that summary are explained in detail in that section. :)

To a VM - it's processor utilization is real - within the VM. This is because 
it is only allocated a timeslice when it needs a timeslice. That means it only 
gets processor resources when it needs them. Therefore, it will likely have a 
higher need for usage within that timeslice than a pCPU that sits idle most of 
the time.

A much more interesting measurement (IMHO) in a Windows VM is System\Processor 
Queue Length - to determine whether the VM is starved for processor resources.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: processor utilization question

Got a virtual machine (really, I do) running on vSphere4u1.  Machine is given 
1Ghz\single VPU with 2GB of RAM and the processor utilization within the OS 
(Win2K8 std.) is maxing at 100% for about 90 minutes but VCenter only shows 85% 
at the same time. RAM is around 40% all the time.  So why the difference in the 
proc numbers?  I'm digging into what is choking the OS but the processor 
discrepancy within the OS and the hypervisor got my attention

Interesting to say the least.

Mama said knock you out.

Shook


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~   ~

RE: processor utilization question

[Andy Shook]

I'll look at the 2008 HAL to make sure it's uni-processor, but this was fixed 
in Win2K3 SP1, me thinks.

Shook

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: processor utilization question

Is this any help?
http://communities.vmware.com/thread/169134

Yes, odd indeed.

I'm gonna know you out.

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: processor utilization question

Got a virtual machine (really, I do) running on vSphere4u1.  Machine is given 
1Ghz\single VPU with 2GB of RAM and the processor utilization within the OS 
(Win2K8 std.) is maxing at 100% for about 90 minutes but VCenter only shows 85% 
at the same time. RAM is around 40% all the time.  So why the difference in the 
proc numbers?  I'm digging into what is choking the OS but the processor 
discrepancy within the OS and the hypervisor got my attention

Interesting to say the least.

Mama said knock you out.

Shook










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~   ~

Windows 7: where are taskbar and widget preferences stored?

[Tom Miller]

Hey Folks,
 
I know this is a little out there, but here goes..
 
We are piloting Citrix XenDestop.  So far so good.  I have it configured for 
folder redirection and the Citrix Profile Manager, and that works great.  But, 
I notice that Windows 7 widgets are not retained after logout/restart.  Other 
settings are retained (change of background, etc).  Likewise for the taskbar:  
if I change icons to be hidden, shown, those settings revert to the default.
 
So I'm wondering where those settings are stored.  At least for widgets I would 
be just as happy to disable them if possible.
 
Suggestions appreciated,
 
 
Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528 
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Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[Roger Wright]

Version 4's console is designed to be more MSP-friendly with multiple sites
(companies) managed from the same console.  You could even have client
machines with the same needs in different sites now.


Roger Wright
___

When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't
nothin' like it!




On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:21 PM, justino garcia wrote:

> I guess version 4.0 does not require a reboot for agent on updates. 3.5
> did.
> I wish it was more geared towards hosting, or a hosted console.
> We manage 12 small comapnies, and 2 bigs ones. I would like for it be a
> hosted service, more so then it is now.
> SO if I can a call for malware problem, I can logon to console and check
> vipre, even run a scan check if it up to date, but all in one CONSOLE
> /server. Maybe a web interface. Also since I see that vipre works with
> malware bytes, maybe adding feature so you can scan via malwarebytes, from a
> remote console.
>
> Overall vipre been good, and I think we will stick wih it, it has good
> detection rate, and so far thier higher end tech support seemed to be good.
>
>
> Does Sophos offer a hosting / hosted service version???
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Evan Brastow <
> ebras...@automatedemblem.com> wrote:
>
>>  Agreed. Excellent evaluation.
>>
>>
>>
>> I had been looking for something to replace VIPRE and may give Sophos a
>> try.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:54 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)
>>
>>
>>
>> Well done on the evaluation, Jeff.
>>
>>
>>
>> I expect that it will be helpful to many, including Sunbelt.
>>
>>
>>
>> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
>> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>> * *
>>
>> Signature powered by WiseStamp 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jeff S. Gottlieb <
>> jeff.s.gottl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> We are in an SMB environment of roughly 60 servers and 1000 hosts,
>> including Server 2003, 2008, SBS2003, SBS2008, XP Pro SP3, Windows 7, and
>> Vista workstations. Sophos Endpoint Security along with PureMessaging, and
>> Vipre Enterprise Premium along with Vipre Email Security are being put to
>> the test head-to-head.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are staunch fans of Sunbelt Software.  Our experiences with Vipre Email
>> Security (much improved over Ninja) has been great over the years.  For over
>> 10-years we have placed our trust in Trend Micro, something that has
>> deteriorated slowly over the past 24-months.  In any event, we are hoping
>> that our published comparisons will meet objectivity, and help to give 
>> reassurance
>> to future Vipre users regardless of the decisions we ultimately made.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Sunbelt *'NT System Admin Issues'* forum has been a great help,
>> dating back to April, more specifically…
>>
>>
>>
>> 4/01/2010 Subject: Enterprise Anti-Virus, rz...@qwest.net
>>
>> 4/21/2010 Subject: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise, jholmg...@xlhealth.com
>>
>> 5/06/2010 Subject: NOD32 Antivirus, jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu
>>
>> 5/09/2010 Subject: Life just keeps getting better,
>> kurt.b...@gmail.com
>>
>> 7/29/2010 Subject: Vipre effectiveness & false positives,
>> c.house...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *1) Installation / Deployment*
>>
>> Server installs both went smooth.  In deployment Sophos had few if any
>> issues. Viper deployment to server required countless exclusions (painfully
>> so)… in fact when our server crashed, we were told that a few exclusions
>> were missing (Agh!). Viper deployment to host on two systems came with MANY
>> surprises. The Vipre agent loaded a “NDIS IM” element in the TCPIP stack,
>> causing CISCO (IPSec) clients to connect… oddly not allowing us to remote
>> TS, Dameware, and other remote applications. SonicWall VPN clients remained
>> unaffected. Vipre even caused slowness, freezing during printing,
>> multi-tasking, and issues with Adobe Acrobat. Some of these issues we just
>> gave up on attempting to resolve and disabled the firewall entirely. When a
>> MSP firm cannot remote access…this is serious!! We couldn’t get support soon
>> enough… and unfortunately cases remain open 4-5 days after the fact. Vipre
>> left our accounting department, using a PSA software (ConnectWise), locked
>> out for an entire day.
>>
>>
>>
>> *2) Post Installation*
>>
>> Sophos agent with firewall was documented as utilizing up to 150+ MB of
>> RAM (enormous)… we were told, “…the price you pay for good protection”.  We
>> were not comforted, despite this fact the users never complained about
>> slower speeds.  Vipre utilized a fraction of this, maybe 7 MB… albeit given
>> the deployment issues (above) we remain unimpressed by any benefit there
>> might be. Sophos comes along with definitions updated hourly, Vipre (so we
>> are told) is heading in this direction too. Vipre c

RE: processor utilization question

[Sam Cayze]

Is this any help?

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/169134

 

Yes, odd indeed.

 

I'm gonna know you out.

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: processor utilization question

 

Got a virtual machine (really, I do) running on vSphere4u1.  Machine is
given 1Ghz\single VPU with 2GB of RAM and the processor utilization
within the OS (Win2K8 std.) is maxing at 100% for about 90 minutes but
VCenter only shows 85% at the same time. RAM is around 40% all the time.
So why the difference in the proc numbers?  I'm digging into what is
choking the OS but the processor discrepancy within the OS and the
hypervisor got my attention

 

Interesting to say the least.

 

Mama said knock you out. 

 

Shook

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[justino garcia]

I guess version 4.0 does not require a reboot for agent on updates. 3.5 did.
I wish it was more geared towards hosting, or a hosted console.
We manage 12 small comapnies, and 2 bigs ones. I would like for it be a
hosted service, more so then it is now.
SO if I can a call for malware problem, I can logon to console and check
vipre, even run a scan check if it up to date, but all in one CONSOLE
/server. Maybe a web interface. Also since I see that vipre works with
malware bytes, maybe adding feature so you can scan via malwarebytes, from a
remote console.

Overall vipre been good, and I think we will stick wih it, it has good
detection rate, and so far thier higher end tech support seemed to be good.


Does Sophos offer a hosting / hosted service version???

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Evan Brastow
wrote:

>  Agreed. Excellent evaluation.
>
>
>
> I had been looking for something to replace VIPRE and may give Sophos a
> try.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:54 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)
>
>
>
> Well done on the evaluation, Jeff.
>
>
>
> I expect that it will be helpful to many, including Sunbelt.
>
>
>
> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
> * *
>
> Signature powered by WiseStamp 
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jeff S. Gottlieb <
> jeff.s.gottl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> We are in an SMB environment of roughly 60 servers and 1000 hosts,
> including Server 2003, 2008, SBS2003, SBS2008, XP Pro SP3, Windows 7, and
> Vista workstations. Sophos Endpoint Security along with PureMessaging, and
> Vipre Enterprise Premium along with Vipre Email Security are being put to
> the test head-to-head.
>
>
>
> We are staunch fans of Sunbelt Software.  Our experiences with Vipre Email
> Security (much improved over Ninja) has been great over the years.  For over
> 10-years we have placed our trust in Trend Micro, something that has
> deteriorated slowly over the past 24-months.  In any event, we are hoping
> that our published comparisons will meet objectivity, and help to give 
> reassurance
> to future Vipre users regardless of the decisions we ultimately made.
>
>
>
> The Sunbelt *'NT System Admin Issues'* forum has been a great help, dating
> back to April, more specifically…
>
>
>
> 4/01/2010 Subject: Enterprise Anti-Virus, rz...@qwest.net
>
> 4/21/2010 Subject: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise, jholmg...@xlhealth.com
>
> 5/06/2010 Subject: NOD32 Antivirus, jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu
>
> 5/09/2010 Subject: Life just keeps getting better, kurt.b...@gmail.com
>
> 7/29/2010 Subject: Vipre effectiveness & false positives,
> c.house...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> *1) Installation / Deployment*
>
> Server installs both went smooth.  In deployment Sophos had few if any
> issues. Viper deployment to server required countless exclusions (painfully
> so)… in fact when our server crashed, we were told that a few exclusions
> were missing (Agh!). Viper deployment to host on two systems came with MANY
> surprises. The Vipre agent loaded a “NDIS IM” element in the TCPIP stack,
> causing CISCO (IPSec) clients to connect… oddly not allowing us to remote
> TS, Dameware, and other remote applications. SonicWall VPN clients remained
> unaffected. Vipre even caused slowness, freezing during printing,
> multi-tasking, and issues with Adobe Acrobat. Some of these issues we just
> gave up on attempting to resolve and disabled the firewall entirely. When a
> MSP firm cannot remote access…this is serious!! We couldn’t get support soon
> enough… and unfortunately cases remain open 4-5 days after the fact. Vipre
> left our accounting department, using a PSA software (ConnectWise), locked
> out for an entire day.
>
>
>
> *2) Post Installation*
>
> Sophos agent with firewall was documented as utilizing up to 150+ MB of RAM
> (enormous)… we were told, “…the price you pay for good protection”.  We were
> not comforted, despite this fact the users never complained about slower
> speeds.  Vipre utilized a fraction of this, maybe 7 MB… albeit given the
> deployment issues (above) we remain unimpressed by any benefit there might
> be. Sophos comes along with definitions updated hourly, Vipre (so we are
> told) is heading in this direction too. Vipre currently is defaulted to
> update every 3-hours, and that default can be changed (…the value??).
>
>
>
> *3) 24-hour Enterprise support*
>
> Vipre Enterprise technicians we found were skilled, sadly they are scantily
> available on weekend (evenings).
>
> Sophos Endpoint Security we found were equally skilled and **always**
> available.  Despite not having a “Premium” support agreement, we found
> Sophos enthusiastic when it came to remote access (LogMeIn). If (in the rare
> occasion) Vipre was asked to remote, remote was either unavailable o

RE: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[Evan Brastow]

Agreed. Excellent evaluation.

I had been looking for something to replace VIPRE and may give Sophos a try.



From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

Well done on the evaluation, Jeff.

I expect that it will be helpful to many, including Sunbelt.


ASB (My XeeSM Profile)
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...

Signature powered by WiseStamp

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jeff S. Gottlieb 
mailto:jeff.s.gottl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

We are in an SMB environment of roughly 60 servers and 1000 hosts, including 
Server 2003, 2008, SBS2003, SBS2008, XP Pro SP3, Windows 7, and Vista 
workstations. Sophos Endpoint Security along with PureMessaging, and Vipre 
Enterprise Premium along with Vipre Email Security are being put to the test 
head-to-head.

We are staunch fans of Sunbelt Software.  Our experiences with Vipre Email 
Security (much improved over Ninja) has been great over the years.  For over 
10-years we have placed our trust in Trend Micro, something that has 
deteriorated slowly over the past 24-months.  In any event, we are hoping that 
our published comparisons will meet objectivity, and help to give reassurance 
to future Vipre users regardless of the decisions we ultimately made.

The Sunbelt 'NT System Admin Issues' forum has been a great help, dating back 
to April, more specifically...

4/01/2010 Subject: Enterprise Anti-Virus, 
rz...@qwest.net
4/21/2010 Subject: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise, 
jholmg...@xlhealth.com
5/06/2010 Subject: NOD32 Antivirus, 
jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu
5/09/2010 Subject: Life just keeps getting better, 
kurt.b...@gmail.com
7/29/2010 Subject: Vipre effectiveness & false positives, 
c.house...@gmail.com

1) Installation / Deployment
Server installs both went smooth.  In deployment Sophos had few if any issues. 
Viper deployment to server required countless exclusions (painfully so)... in 
fact when our server crashed, we were told that a few exclusions were missing 
(Agh!). Viper deployment to host on two systems came with MANY surprises. The 
Vipre agent loaded a "NDIS IM" element in the TCPIP stack, causing CISCO 
(IPSec) clients to connect... oddly not allowing us to remote TS, Dameware, and 
other remote applications. SonicWall VPN clients remained unaffected. Vipre 
even caused slowness, freezing during printing, multi-tasking, and issues with 
Adobe Acrobat. Some of these issues we just gave up on attempting to resolve 
and disabled the firewall entirely. When a MSP firm cannot remote access...this 
is serious!! We couldn't get support soon enough... and unfortunately cases 
remain open 4-5 days after the fact. Vipre left our accounting department, 
using a PSA software (ConnectWise), locked out for an entire day.

2) Post Installation
Sophos agent with firewall was documented as utilizing up to 150+ MB of RAM 
(enormous)... we were told, "...the price you pay for good protection".  We 
were not comforted, despite this fact the users never complained about slower 
speeds.  Vipre utilized a fraction of this, maybe 7 MB... albeit given the 
deployment issues (above) we remain unimpressed by any benefit there might be. 
Sophos comes along with definitions updated hourly, Vipre (so we are told) is 
heading in this direction too. Vipre currently is defaulted to update every 
3-hours, and that default can be changed (...the value??).

3) 24-hour Enterprise support
Vipre Enterprise technicians we found were skilled, sadly they are scantily 
available on weekend (evenings).
Sophos Endpoint Security we found were equally skilled and *always* available.  
Despite not having a "Premium" support agreement, we found Sophos enthusiastic 
when it came to remote access (LogMeIn). If (in the rare occasion) Vipre was 
asked to remote, remote was either unavailable or they were flat out reluctant. 
Vipre on several occasions seemed overwhelmed... Sophos *never* gave us that 
feeling.

4) Additional Items
Sophos PureMessaging (SPAM filter) catches SPAM well (notice we didn't say 
unsolicited advertisements). If you differentiate (most do) between the two you 
will NOT enjoy PureMessaging. Additionally with PureMessaging each account 
receives email called "spam digest", there are options to either Delete or 
Deliver.  In either event chosen, this is a singular event... it does NOT 
automatically allow or block these addresses on a going forward basis. It's 
impossible meeting the demands of users wanting NOT to receive Golf Digest 
solicitations, eBay, Amazon, LL Bean, Victoria Secrets (no joke!), all that 
legitimate stuff that gets overwhelming. Ah... then there's Vipre Email 
Security!!!  If *anything* unwant

processor utilization question

[Andy Shook]

Got a virtual machine (really, I do) running on vSphere4u1.  Machine is given 
1Ghz\single VPU with 2GB of RAM and the processor utilization within the OS 
(Win2K8 std.) is maxing at 100% for about 90 minutes but VCenter only shows 85% 
at the same time. RAM is around 40% all the time.  So why the difference in the 
proc numbers?  I'm digging into what is choking the OS but the processor 
discrepancy within the OS and the hypervisor got my attention

Interesting to say the least.

Mama said knock you out.

Shook


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Volume Licensing

[Cameron Cooper]

With reading up and reading what others have said, we're going to go
with KMS.  In the long run it seems like the better option to go with
and less of a hassle.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Inc

Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com

 

From: James Hill [mailto:james.h...@superamart.com.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Volume Licensing

 

KMS is the way to go.

 

Be aware that you'll need to configure KMS hosts for Windows and Office.
You can run both on the same server (however for some reason Windows
2008 and Vista are not supported as an Office KMS Host but are supported
as Windows KMS Hosts).

 

Your KMS host also requires access to the internet as it checks in with
the Microsoft every 180 days(?) or so.

 

Office: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee624357.aspx

Windows:  http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd772269.aspx

 

James.

 

From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 2:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Volume Licensing

 

All,

 

We are new to the Volume Licensing through Microsoft and would like to
know which key (KMS or MAK) to use in our environment for migrating to
Windows 7 and Office 2010?

 

Environment:

-  Currently have 60 computers all running Windows XP Pro and a
mixture of Office 2003/2007

-  Currently have 5 Servers running Windows Server 2003 and 2003
R2 (which won't be migrated over to Server 2008 R2 yet)

 

>From what I understand is that KMS is hosted on one machine (server or
computer) and the clients renew their activation with that machine.
Whereas with MAK, each computer activates to MS.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Inc

Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Dual monitor and problem application

[Cameron Cooper]

We've decided to go with 22" wide screens when purchasing new computers
or when old monitors die.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Inc

Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com   | www.aurico.com

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dual monitor and problem application

 

Hi Folks,

 

We have a call center staff here, and they all use dual monitors.  One
monitor has the call center application, the other is supposed to have
our medical (EMR) application.   The problem we are seeing is the EMR
application won't stay on a single monitor.  

 

The EMR app is web-based.  The user logs on, then  from there users
select menu options (calendaring, clinical records, and so on.).  Once a
selection is made another browser instance is started.  It always starts
on the other monitor.  

 

Right now the app only runs on IE6/IE7 and Windows XP.  I will be
updating the AIX NOS and the EMR soon, but I don't think that will help.
Also, we can't force subsequent windows to open in a new tab instead of
a new browser (crappy app, but it's going away in a year at least).

 

Suggestions?  We are considering instead providing a large monitor
instead of two monitors.   

 

 

Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528 

Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is
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confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use,
disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended
recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all
copies of the original message. 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Dual monitor and problem application

[Cameron Cooper]

Is the app opened in Maximum size?  When closed like that it will/should
remember which screen it was on when closed.  The other thing you can
look at is the graphic cards properties.  The ones we have (ATI PCI
9250) have an option to specify which monitor.

_

Cameron Cooper

Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Inc

Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com   | www.aurico.com

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dual monitor and problem application

 

Hi Folks,

 

We have a call center staff here, and they all use dual monitors.  One
monitor has the call center application, the other is supposed to have
our medical (EMR) application.   The problem we are seeing is the EMR
application won't stay on a single monitor.  

 

The EMR app is web-based.  The user logs on, then  from there users
select menu options (calendaring, clinical records, and so on.).  Once a
selection is made another browser instance is started.  It always starts
on the other monitor.  

 

Right now the app only runs on IE6/IE7 and Windows XP.  I will be
updating the AIX NOS and the EMR soon, but I don't think that will help.
Also, we can't force subsequent windows to open in a new tab instead of
a new browser (crappy app, but it's going away in a year at least).

 

Suggestions?  We are considering instead providing a large monitor
instead of two monitors.   

 

 

Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528 

Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is
for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain
confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use,
disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended
recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all
copies of the original message. 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Online Filesharing Service

[Durf]

We're fond of Sharefile.com - the security and account interface is well
thought out, pricing is reasonable, and they include a small command-line
client for scripted downloads.

--Durf

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:10 AM, David Minich wrote:

> I am looking for recommendations and advice for an online filesharing
> services. Any recommendations appreciated.
>
>
>
> dminich
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>



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~   ~

Re: New Flash Player

[Andrew S. Baker]

LOL


*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:57 AM, S Powell  wrote:

> Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 18:31, Jonathan Link 
> wrote:
> > No.
> > It's the journey, not a destination.
> >
>
>
> Yes , but could we please find a nice rest stop along the way?
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: New Flash Player

[S Powell]

Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.



On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 18:31, Jonathan Link  wrote:
> No.
> It's the journey, not a destination.
>


Yes , but could we please find a nice rest stop along the way?

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Join my network on LinkedIn

[Steven M. Caesare]

Well, if shook hadn't botched the name...

 

-sc

 

From: Louis, Joe [mailto:jlo...@guardianalarm.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Join my network on LinkedIn

 

The sad thing is the probable low number that got that reference. It's
an excellent line with a movie of other great lines. 

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Join my network on LinkedIn

 

The new phone books are here!

The new phone books are here!

 

Page 73! Johnson, Steven R. !!!

 

I'm somebody now!

 

 

Shook

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Join my network on LinkedIn

 

:-( There was me thinking I had some new friends. Oh well

On 10 August 2010 14:11, Rod Trent  wrote:

Sorry folks...not sure what happened there...  definitely not
intentioned.  Crazy Outlook social media add-in.

 

From: messages-nore...@bounce.linkedin.com
[mailto:messages-nore...@bounce.linkedin.com] On Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Join my network on LinkedIn

 


LinkedIn


Rod Trent requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:

David,

I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

- Rod Trent 

 

Accept
  

View invitation from Rod Trent
  

 

 

 

WHY MIGHT CONNECTING WITH ROD TRENT BE A GOOD IDEA?

Rod Trent's connections could be useful to you
After accepting Rod Trent's invitation, check Rod Trent's connections to
see who else you may know and who you might want an introduction to.
Building these connections can create opportunities in the future.

 

(c) 2010, LinkedIn Corporation

 

 

 

 

 




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into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could
provoke such a question."

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Join my network on LinkedIn

[Louis, Joe]

The sad thing is the probable low number that got that reference. It's an 
excellent line with a movie of other great lines.

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Join my network on LinkedIn

The new phone books are here!
The new phone books are here!

Page 73! Johnson, Steven R. !!!

I'm somebody now!


Shook

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Join my network on LinkedIn

:-( There was me thinking I had some new friends. Oh well
On 10 August 2010 14:11, Rod Trent 
mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>> wrote:
Sorry folks...not sure what happened there...  definitely not intentioned.  
Crazy Outlook social media add-in.

From: 
messages-nore...@bounce.linkedin.com
 
[mailto:messages-nore...@bounce.linkedin.com]
 On Behalf Of Rod Trent
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Join my network on LinkedIn

LinkedIn

Rod Trent requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:

David,

I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

- Rod Trent

Accept

View invitation from Rod 
Trent





WHY MIGHT CONNECTING WITH ROD TRENT BE A GOOD IDEA?

Rod Trent's connections could be useful to you
After accepting Rod Trent's invitation, check Rod Trent's connections to see 
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RE: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[Jeff S. Gottlieb]

Tom,

 

“…pulling a steak away from a hungry lion” Extremely apropos!

 

We had similar experiences removing SAV. When Add Remove Programs failed we 
attempted “rip and remove” and when that failed, we opened a case that climbed 
to their “Development Team”.  Left days unanswered we collectively decided on 
one last call… and if no resolution, reimage! The tech used an impressive 
combination of standalone reinstall /uninstall, and manually manipulation 
(failed for us). He was successful.

 

Note that I never said Sophos was *perfect* …it just allows me to keep more 
valiums in my POCKET!! 

 

BTW. We took the CEO’s laptop (Vista, CISCO VPN, AirCard), using SAV we built a 
2-week long baseline firewall configuration in “Interactive” mode (the firewall 
asks how to deal with traffic).  We then reconfigured to “Block by default” 
(all traffic without matching rules are blocked)… works great! (protection with 
teeth).  The part we really liked was the firewall logs pinpointed the reason 
why RDP (RDC) failed initially… we quickly created a rule and VOILO (Nice!) We 
also found Sophos great at tackling SVI infections. What a relief getting away 
from the Trend Micro bull-jive!

 

Sadly we abandoned the use of Vipre Enterprise (for now). It’s more courageous 
(guys like you) hanging in there, providing feedback that will be beneficial to 
us all in a long run. VIVE LA VIPRE!!   -Jeff

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

 

Jeff,

 

Thanks for the comments.  I'll add few that some might find helpful:

 

- Vipre deployments here went fairly easily.  I used my own script that is 
similar to the original Vipre scripts.  I had to remove SAV and that was more 
of an issue than getting Vipre to install.  Removing SAV from PCs here was like 
pulling a steak away from a hungry lion..

 

- I see false positives too much, and usually on my Windows 2008 servers, 
usually on the weekend.  I agree that support is weak on the weekends.  I 
submit a request and usually between the long periods of silence I get an 
occasional e-mail from support.  By several days later I'm disgusted with the 
non-resolution and I realize that the issue is a false positive and end up 
closing the tickets.  

 

- I've never had support remote in, although on a few occasions it would have 
saved time.  I got the same impression that support didn't want to do that.  
However sometimes support is really fast and the techs are very knowledgeable.  
 (None of this Microsoft "is the computer powered on?" crap.)

 

- Agreed on the agent updates and reboots.  For us it is an annoyance, not a 
show-stopper.

 

- Agreed on the exclusions.  I have a long list of exclusions.  But that is 
based on an MS KB I found awhile back and would probably put those exclusions 
in any A/V software I used.

 

- I really like how "lite" Vipre is on active scanning and the daily scans.  
The full scans do tend to bring some PCs here to a crawl, including mine.   
Support told me to schedule those "off-hours".  Hell?  We tell staff to 
turn off their PCs when not in use to save electricity.   Not. An. Option. 

 

- In terms of pricing, Sunbelt has been very good to us and I appreciate it 
very much.  We are a non-profit/state agency so funds are always stretched.  
Other vendors couldn't even come close.  Or even try.  For us price is a very 
important factor.

 

- Updates for remote locations has always been an issue.  I have 20 or so 
broadband sites that connect to me via a SOHO device VPN.  You'd think those 
PCs would update just fine.  Nope.  Many go to 0 defs, never get updated, or 
when the agent uninstalls as part of an agent upgrade, the new agent never 
installs or something happens that requires my team's intervention.  This is a 
real pain.   And going from version 3 to 4 for these locations was such an 
issue that we are still dealing with it. 

 

- I hope Vipre premium will get more advanced.  For now my laptop staff who 
work via air card or remote wired/wireless connection don't use Vipre.  I use 
Forticlient premium managed by a Fortimanager.  Lots of security options on the 
Forticlient!  And I love how my internal content filtering policies are finally 
extended to those laptops (we have Fortinet firewalls so the policies are 
universal).  Perhaps I'll move to Vipre premium at some point.

 

- The Console is great and so easy to use.  Super design, Sunbelt.  Version 4 
is better than 3, too.

 

- I wish there were a better way to manage remote WAN site 
servers/workstations.  Other products just pick a PC and make that the update 
point.  With Vipre it's a hassle and a bit confusing.  

 

I hope this doesn't sound too negative.  I'm sticking with Vipre for now.   The 
product is still new compared to other vendors and I see it improving with each 
revision.  

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Online Filesharing Service

[Andrew S. Baker]

And DropBox...



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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:10 AM, David Minich wrote:

> I am looking for recommendations and advice for an online filesharing
> services. Any recommendations appreciated.
>
>
>
> dminich
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

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RE: SCSM 2010

[Michael B. Smith]

For the OP: it was probably Rod Trent.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SCSM 2010

> I can't wait for this to go into full release, I've been looking for a 
> product like this for a long time.

The product is commercially available...

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132


From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SCSM 2010

Can I just say a big thankyou to whoever pointed out System Center Service 
Manager on the list over the last couple of days (I can't remember who it was). 
I've just been playing with the eval version, and that looks to me like one of 
the best products MS have put out in a long time. The guy who developed our 
helpdesk solution, however, is now spitting feathers as all of his work simply 
looks rather rubbish when matched against this MS beastie.

I can't wait for this to go into full release, I've been looking for a product 
like this for a long time. It is quite simply awesome-cakes.

Cheers!

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machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly 
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Re: Online Filesharing Service

[Roger Wright]

Box.net and MS's SkyDrive come to mind.


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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:10 AM, David Minich wrote:

> I am looking for recommendations and advice for an online filesharing
> services. Any recommendations appreciated.
>
>
>
> dminich
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: SCSM 2010

[Brian Desmond]

> I can't wait for this to go into full release, I've been looking for a 
> product like this for a long time.

The product is commercially available...

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132


From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SCSM 2010

Can I just say a big thankyou to whoever pointed out System Center Service 
Manager on the list over the last couple of days (I can't remember who it was). 
I've just been playing with the eval version, and that looks to me like one of 
the best products MS have put out in a long time. The guy who developed our 
helpdesk solution, however, is now spitting feathers as all of his work simply 
looks rather rubbish when matched against this MS beastie.

I can't wait for this to go into full release, I've been looking for a product 
like this for a long time. It is quite simply awesome-cakes.

Cheers!

--
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the 
machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly 
to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."





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~   ~

Online Filesharing Service

[David Minich]

I am looking for recommendations and advice for an online filesharing
services. Any recommendations appreciated.



dminich


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~   ~

Anyone using EminentWare WSUS Extension Pack?

[Ralph Smith]

Just watched a couple of videos on their site - it looks like it adds
some nice functionality to WSUS including managing third party patching.
The price doesn't look too bad compared to some other patch management
apps.

Anyone using it or can comment?

 

Thanks.

 

 


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Re: New Flash Player

[RichardMcClary]

I always thought in the Anasasi language, it meant sun-dried manure...

Roger Wright  wrote on 08/12/2010 09:08:45 AM:

> Not until all things Adobe are removed from your machine.  Wait... 
> doesn't Adobe translate to "root kit" in some obscure South American 
dialect?
> 
> 
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> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Carl Houseman  
wrote:
> And next week, Adobe Reader as well.  Are we secure yet?
>  
> Carl
>  
> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:05 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: New Flash Player
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> release the 2nd Wednesday of the month?!!!
>  
> http://secunia.com/advisories/40907
>  
> Carl
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RE: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[John Aldrich]

Yes. It's customizable in the admin console.



-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Steve Kelsay  wrote:
> My showstopper is the ability of Vipre to turn off real time detection
> without warning on a monotonously regular basis.

  Can IT admins at least disable the option to turn off real-time
detection entirely?

-- Ben

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RE: New Flash Player

[Andy Shook]

That is awesome...totally stealing that one, Roger.

Shook

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: New Flash Player

Not until all things Adobe are removed from your machine.  Wait... doesn't 
Adobe translate to "root kit" in some obscure South American dialect?


Roger Wright
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On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Carl Houseman 
mailto:c.house...@gmail.com>> wrote:
And next week, Adobe Reader as well.  Are we secure yet?

Carl

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: New Flash Player

But wait!   There's more!

https://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?storyid=9364


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On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Carl Houseman 
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Didn't know this was coming before now.  As if there weren't enough updates to 
deal with from yesterday... who told Adobe they should release the 2nd 
Wednesday of the month?!!!

http://secunia.com/advisories/40907

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RE: BES Express

[John Aldrich]

Yep. That's the same conclusion I came to.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES Express

 

You need to research BIS (Blackberry Internet Service)

You cannot use BES at this time.

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES Express

 

Hosted email. J Our ISP has a POP3 server that we use. Eventually I want to
bring email in-house, but it likely won't be this year and maybe not next
year. We'll have to see how the economy goes. I'm also looking at storage,
which I think needs to come before email. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES Express

 

What do you have?

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BES Express

 

Anyone know if BES Express can work if you DON'T have an Exchange server? I
was under the impression that pretty much all flavors of Blackberry server
required an Exchange server. Our CEO just forwarded me something about BES
Express, and the website it directs you to isn't clear about whether it'll
work if your on a POP3 server.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: New Flash Player

[Roger Wright]

Not until all things Adobe are removed from your machine.  Wait... doesn't
Adobe translate to "root kit" in some obscure South American dialect?


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On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Carl Houseman  wrote:

>  And next week, Adobe Reader as well.  Are we secure yet?
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:05 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: New Flash Player
>
>
>
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> Didn't know this was coming before now.  As if there weren't enough updates
> to deal with from yesterday... who told Adobe they should release the 2nd
> Wednesday of the month?!!!
>
>
>
> http://secunia.com/advisories/40907
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Steve Kelsay  wrote:
> My showstopper is the ability of Vipre to turn off real time detection
> without warning on a monotonously regular basis.

  Can IT admins at least disable the option to turn off real-time
detection entirely?

-- Ben

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Re: Dual monitor and problem application

[James Rankin]

We use SplitView 2010 to manage our multiple monitor set-ups. Quite
customisable and works well.

On 12 August 2010 14:30, Tom Miller  wrote:

>  Hi Folks,
>
> We have a call center staff here, and they all use dual monitors.  One
> monitor has the call center application, the other is *supposed* to have
> our medical (EMR) application.   The problem we are seeing is the EMR
> application won't stay on a single monitor.
>
> The EMR app is web-based.  The user logs on, then  from there users select
> menu options (calendaring, clinical records, and so on.).  Once a selection
> is made another browser instance is started.  It always starts on the other
> monitor.
>
> Right now the app only runs on IE6/IE7 and Windows XP.  I will be updating
> the AIX NOS and the EMR soon, but I don't think that will help.  Also, we
> can't force subsequent windows to open in a new tab instead of a new browser
> (crappy app, but it's going away in a year at least).
>
> Suggestions?  We are considering instead providing a large monitor instead
> of two monitors.
>
>
> Tom Miller
> Engineer, Information Technology
> Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
> 757-788-0528
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SCSM 2010

[James Rankin]

Can I just say a big thankyou to whoever pointed out System Center Service
Manager on the list over the last couple of days (I can't remember who it
was). I've just been playing with the eval version, and that looks to me
like one of the best products MS have put out in a long time. The guy who
developed our helpdesk solution, however, is now spitting feathers as all of
his work simply looks rather rubbish when matched against this MS beastie.

I can't wait for this to go into full release, I've been looking for a
product like this for a long time. It is quite simply awesome-cakes.

Cheers!

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"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

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Re: Dual monitor and problem application

[Tom Miller]

Yes, it always opens on the other monitor.  And the way this works is
the staff frequently close the second window and need to select an
option from the menu which starts another.
 
Ugh!

>>>  8/12/2010 9:35 AM >>>

Wow, lucky you!  Our call center agents have 3 monitors (and some want
a fourth)... 

If you switch the monitors on which the 2 apps run, does the EMR app
always insist on opening its new window on the other monitor -
regardless of which it is currently showing?
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> Hi Folks, 
>   
> We have a call center staff here, and they all use dual monitors.  
> One monitor has the call center application, the other is supposed 
> to have our medical (EMR) application.   The problem we are seeing 
> is the EMR application won't stay on a single monitor.   
>   
> The EMR app is web-based.  The user logs on, then  from there users 
> select menu options (calendaring, clinical records, and so on.).  
> Once a selection is made another browser instance is started.  It 
> always starts on the other monitor.   
>   
> Right now the app only runs on IE6/IE7 and Windows XP.  I will be 
> updating the AIX NOS and the EMR soon, but I don't think that will 
> help.  Also, we can't force subsequent windows to open in a new tab 
> instead of a new browser (crappy app, but it's going away in a year
at least). 
>   
> Suggestions?  We are considering instead providing a large monitor 
> instead of two monitors.   
>   
>   
> Tom Miller
> Engineer, Information Technology
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> 757-788-0528 
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RE: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[Steve Kelsay]

My showstopper is the ability of Vipre to turn off real time detection without 
warning on a monotonously regular basis. NOTE to Sunbelt: I think the obsolete 
protection I had running yesterday is more secure than the updated protection 
that is not running because you turned it off until I reboot. 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

 

Jeff,

 

Thanks for the comments.  I'll add few that some might find helpful:

 

- Vipre deployments here went fairly easily.  I used my own script that is 
similar to the original Vipre scripts.  I had to remove SAV and that was more 
of an issue than getting Vipre to install.  Removing SAV from PCs here was like 
pulling a steak away from a hungry lion..

 

- I see false positives too much, and usually on my Windows 2008 servers, 
usually on the weekend.  I agree that support is weak on the weekends.  I 
submit a request and usually between the long periods of silence I get an 
occasional e-mail from support.  By several days later I'm disgusted with the 
non-resolution and I realize that the issue is a false positive and end up 
closing the tickets.  

 

- I've never had support remote in, although on a few occasions it would have 
saved time.  I got the same impression that support didn't want to do that.  
However sometimes support is really fast and the techs are very knowledgeable.  
 (None of this Microsoft "is the computer powered on?" crap.)

 

- Agreed on the agent updates and reboots.  For us it is an annoyance, not a 
show-stopper.

 

- Agreed on the exclusions.  I have a long list of exclusions.  But that is 
based on an MS KB I found awhile back and would probably put those exclusions 
in any A/V software I used.

 

- I really like how "lite" Vipre is on active scanning and the daily scans.  
The full scans do tend to bring some PCs here to a crawl, including mine.   
Support told me to schedule those "off-hours".  Hell?  We tell staff to 
turn off their PCs when not in use to save electricity.   Not. An. Option. 

 

- In terms of pricing, Sunbelt has been very good to us and I appreciate it 
very much.  We are a non-profit/state agency so funds are always stretched.  
Other vendors couldn't even come close.  Or even try.  For us price is a very 
important factor.

 

- Updates for remote locations has always been an issue.  I have 20 or so 
broadband sites that connect to me via a SOHO device VPN.  You'd think those 
PCs would update just fine.  Nope.  Many go to 0 defs, never get updated, or 
when the agent uninstalls as part of an agent upgrade, the new agent never 
installs or something happens that requires my team's intervention.  This is a 
real pain.   And going from version 3 to 4 for these locations was such an 
issue that we are still dealing with it. 

 

- I hope Vipre premium will get more advanced.  For now my laptop staff who 
work via air card or remote wired/wireless connection don't use Vipre.  I use 
Forticlient premium managed by a Fortimanager.  Lots of security options on the 
Forticlient!  And I love how my internal content filtering policies are finally 
extended to those laptops (we have Fortinet firewalls so the policies are 
universal).  Perhaps I'll move to Vipre premium at some point.

 

- The Console is great and so easy to use.  Super design, Sunbelt.  Version 4 
is better than 3, too.

 

- I wish there were a better way to manage remote WAN site 
servers/workstations.  Other products just pick a PC and make that the update 
point.  With Vipre it's a hassle and a bit confusing.  

 

I hope this doesn't sound too negative.  I'm sticking with Vipre for now.   The 
product is still new compared to other vendors and I see it improving with each 
revision.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528 

>>> "Jeff S. Gottlieb"  8/11/2010 4:56 PM >>>

 

We are in an SMB environment of roughly 60 servers and 1000 hosts, including 
Server 2003, 2008, SBS2003, SBS2008, XP Pro SP3, Windows 7, and Vista 
workstations. Sophos Endpoint Security along with PureMessaging, and Vipre 
Enterprise Premium along with Vipre Email Security are being put to the test 
head-to-head.

 

We are staunch fans of Sunbelt Software.  Our experiences with Vipre Email 
Security (much improved over Ninja) has been great over the years.  For over 
10-years we have placed our trust in Trend Micro, something that has 
deteriorated slowly over the past 24-months.  In any event, we are hoping that 
our published comparisons will meet objectivity, and help to give reassurance 
to future Vipre users regardless of the decisions we ultimately made.

 

The Sunbelt 'NT System Admin Issues' forum has been a great help, dating back 
to April, more specifically…

 

4/01/2010 Subject: Enterprise Anti-Virus, rz...@qwest.ne

RE: BES Express

[Martin Blackstone]

You need to research BIS (Blackberry Internet Service)

You cannot use BES at this time.

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES Express

 

Hosted email. :-) Our ISP has a POP3 server that we use. Eventually I want
to bring email in-house, but it likely won't be this year and maybe not next
year. We'll have to see how the economy goes. I'm also looking at storage,
which I think needs to come before email. :-)

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES Express

 

What do you have?

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BES Express

 

Anyone know if BES Express can work if you DON'T have an Exchange server? I
was under the impression that pretty much all flavors of Blackberry server
required an Exchange server. Our CEO just forwarded me something about BES
Express, and the website it directs you to isn't clear about whether it'll
work if your on a POP3 server.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Dual monitor and problem application

[Daniel Rodriguez]

If I recall, you can 'set' where you want certain application windows to
open by doing the following;

Open the application window, in this case the application that is opening in
the other monitor.

Move that window to the second monitor.

While holding down your CTRL key, click on the red 'x' to close the window.
Release the CTRL key.

Do what you normally do to open that application.

It should open in the window that you 'closed' it in.

If that does not work, then there is something that is telling that
application where to start its location window.

Try that and see if it works.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Tom Miller  wrote:

>  Hi Folks,
>
> We have a call center staff here, and they all use dual monitors.  One
> monitor has the call center application, the other is *supposed* to have
> our medical (EMR) application.   The problem we are seeing is the EMR
> application won't stay on a single monitor.
>
> The EMR app is web-based.  The user logs on, then  from there users select
> menu options (calendaring, clinical records, and so on.).  Once a selection
> is made another browser instance is started.  It always starts on the other
> monitor.
>
> Right now the app only runs on IE6/IE7 and Windows XP.  I will be updating
> the AIX NOS and the EMR soon, but I don't think that will help.  Also, we
> can't force subsequent windows to open in a new tab instead of a new browser
> (crappy app, but it's going away in a year at least).
>
> Suggestions?  We are considering instead providing a large monitor instead
> of two monitors.
>
>
> Tom Miller
> Engineer, Information Technology
> Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
> 757-788-0528
>
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Re: Dual monitor and problem application

[RichardMcClary]

Wow, lucky you!  Our call center agents have 3 monitors (and some want a 
fourth)...

If you switch the monitors on which the 2 apps run, does the EMR app 
always insist on opening its new window on the other monitor - regardless 
of which it is currently showing?
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"Tom Miller"  wrote on 08/12/2010 08:30:23 AM:

> Hi Folks,
> 
> We have a call center staff here, and they all use dual monitors. 
> One monitor has the call center application, the other is supposed 
> to have our medical (EMR) application.   The problem we are seeing 
> is the EMR application won't stay on a single monitor. 
> 
> The EMR app is web-based.  The user logs on, then  from there users 
> select menu options (calendaring, clinical records, and so on.). 
> Once a selection is made another browser instance is started.  It 
> always starts on the other monitor. 
> 
> Right now the app only runs on IE6/IE7 and Windows XP.  I will be 
> updating the AIX NOS and the EMR soon, but I don't think that will 
> help.  Also, we can't force subsequent windows to open in a new tab 
> instead of a new browser (crappy app, but it's going away in a year at 
least).
> 
> Suggestions?  We are considering instead providing a large monitor 
> instead of two monitors. 
> 
> 
> Tom Miller
> Engineer, Information Technology
> Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
> 757-788-0528 
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> destroy all copies of the original message. 
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Dual monitor and problem application

[Tom Miller]

Hi Folks,
 
We have a call center staff here, and they all use dual monitors.  One monitor 
has the call center application, the other is supposed to have our medical 
(EMR) application.   The problem we are seeing is the EMR application won't 
stay on a single monitor.  
 
The EMR app is web-based.  The user logs on, then  from there users select menu 
options (calendaring, clinical records, and so on.).  Once a selection is made 
another browser instance is started.  It always starts on the other monitor.  
 
Right now the app only runs on IE6/IE7 and Windows XP.  I will be updating the 
AIX NOS and the EMR soon, but I don't think that will help.  Also, we can't 
force subsequent windows to open in a new tab instead of a new browser (crappy 
app, but it's going away in a year at least).
 
Suggestions?  We are considering instead providing a large monitor instead of 
two monitors.   
 
 
Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528 
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message.

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Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[Tom Miller]

Jeff,
 
Thanks for the comments.  I'll add few that some might find helpful:
 
- Vipre deployments here went fairly easily.  I used my own script that
is similar to the original Vipre scripts.  I had to remove SAV and that
was more of an issue than getting Vipre to install.  Removing SAV from
PCs here was like pulling a steak away from a hungry lion..
 
- I see false positives too much, and usually on my Windows 2008
servers, usually on the weekend.  I agree that support is weak on the
weekends.  I submit a request and usually between the long periods of
silence I get an occasional e-mail from support.  By several days later
I'm disgusted with the non-resolution and I realize that the issue is a
false positive and end up closing the tickets.  
 
- I've never had support remote in, although on a few occasions it
would have saved time.  I got the same impression that support didn't
want to do that.  However sometimes support is really fast and the techs
are very knowledgeable.   (None of this Microsoft "is the computer
powered on?" crap.)
 
- Agreed on the agent updates and reboots.  For us it is an annoyance,
not a show-stopper.
 
- Agreed on the exclusions.  I have a long list of exclusions.  But
that is based on an MS KB I found awhile back and would probably put
those exclusions in any A/V software I used.
 
- I really like how "lite" Vipre is on active scanning and the daily
scans.  The full scans do tend to bring some PCs here to a crawl,
including mine.   Support told me to schedule those "off-hours". 
Hell?  We tell staff to turn off their PCs when not in use to save
electricity.   Not. An. Option. 
 
- In terms of pricing, Sunbelt has been very good to us and I
appreciate it very much.  We are a non-profit/state agency so funds are
always stretched.  Other vendors couldn't even come close.  Or even try.
 For us price is a very important factor.
 
- Updates for remote locations has always been an issue.  I have 20 or
so broadband sites that connect to me via a SOHO device VPN.  You'd
think those PCs would update just fine.  Nope.  Many go to 0 defs, never
get updated, or when the agent uninstalls as part of an agent upgrade,
the new agent never installs or something happens that requires my
team's intervention.  This is a real pain.   And going from version 3 to
4 for these locations was such an issue that we are still dealing with
it. 
 
- I hope Vipre premium will get more advanced.  For now my laptop staff
who work via air card or remote wired/wireless connection don't use
Vipre.  I use Forticlient premium managed by a Fortimanager.  Lots of
security options on the Forticlient!  And I love how my internal content
filtering policies are finally extended to those laptops (we have
Fortinet firewalls so the policies are universal).  Perhaps I'll move to
Vipre premium at some point.
 
- The Console is great and so easy to use.  Super design, Sunbelt. 
Version 4 is better than 3, too.
 
- I wish there were a better way to manage remote WAN site
servers/workstations.  Other products just pick a PC and make that the
update point.  With Vipre it's a hassle and a bit confusing.  
 
I hope this doesn't sound too negative.  I'm sticking with Vipre for
now.   The product is still new compared to other vendors and I see it
improving with each revision.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528 

>>> "Jeff S. Gottlieb"  8/11/2010 4:56 PM
>>>

 
We are in an SMB environment of roughly 60 servers and 1000 hosts,
including Server 2003, 2008, SBS2003, SBS2008, XP Pro SP3, Windows 7,
and Vista workstations. Sophos Endpoint Security along with
PureMessaging, and Vipre Enterprise Premium along with Vipre Email
Security are being put to the test head-to-head.
 
We are staunch fans of Sunbelt Software.  Our experiences with Vipre
Email Security (much improved over Ninja) has been great over the years.
 For over 10-years we have placed our trust in Trend Micro, something
that has deteriorated slowly over the past 24-months.  In any event, we
are hoping that our published comparisons will meet objectivity, and
help to give reassurance to future Vipre users regardless of the
decisions we ultimately made.
 
The Sunbelt 'NT System Admin Issues' forum has been a great help,
dating back to April, more specifically…
 
4/01/2010 Subject: Enterprise Anti-Virus, rz...@qwest.net
4/21/2010 Subject: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise, jholmg...@xlhealth.com
5/06/2010 Subject: NOD32 Antivirus, jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu
5/09/2010 Subject: Life just keeps getting better,
kurt.b...@gmail.com
7/29/2010 Subject: Vipre effectiveness & false positives,
c.house...@gmail.com
 
1) Installation / Deployment
Server installs both went smooth.  In deployment Sophos had few if any
issues. Viper deployment to server required countless exclusions
(painfully so)… in fact when our server crashed, we were told that a few
exclusions were missing (Agh!). Viper deployment to 

Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[Richard Stovall]

I installed the beta agent (4.0.3902) on two machines yesterday and rebooted
even though I wasn't prompted.  I'm just used to having to do it.

I thought the goal was to obviate the immediate reboot requirement, but that
in cases where there are updates to one or more of the drivers a restart
will still be necessary at some point to swap out the old drivers for the
new - at least for pre-Vista operating systems.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Eric Wittersheim <
eric.wittersh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just upgraded from 3 to 4 and all agents required a reboot.
> Additionally, Windows 7 clients and Server 2008 clients required 2 reboots.
> Ugg!
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:00 AM, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:
>
>>  Interesting observation on the Agent reboots. I’ve had Vipre here for
>> about 6 months now and rarely have we needed to reboot our systems since
>> upgrading to Vipre Enterprise 4.0. Yes, Vipre 3.5 did require reboots on
>> agent updates, but Vipre 4 has not, in my experience, required a reboot for
>> an agent update. You don’t state which version of Vipre you were testing,
>> but I’m guessing you tested Vipre 3.5. You may be pleasantly surprised by
>> Vipre Enterprise 4.
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:54 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)
>>
>>
>>
>> Well done on the evaluation, Jeff.
>>
>>
>>
>> I expect that it will be helpful to many, including Sunbelt.
>>
>>
>>
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>> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>> * *
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jeff S. Gottlieb <
>> jeff.s.gottl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> We are in an SMB environment of roughly 60 servers and 1000 hosts,
>> including Server 2003, 2008, SBS2003, SBS2008, XP Pro SP3, Windows 7, and
>> Vista workstations. Sophos Endpoint Security along with PureMessaging, and
>> Vipre Enterprise Premium along with Vipre Email Security are being put to
>> the test head-to-head.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are staunch fans of Sunbelt Software.  Our experiences with Vipre Email
>> Security (much improved over Ninja) has been great over the years.  For over
>> 10-years we have placed our trust in Trend Micro, something that has
>> deteriorated slowly over the past 24-months.  In any event, we are hoping
>> that our published comparisons will meet objectivity, and help to give 
>> reassurance
>> to future Vipre users regardless of the decisions we ultimately made.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Sunbelt *'NT System Admin Issues'* forum has been a great help,
>> dating back to April, more specifically…
>>
>>
>>
>> 4/01/2010 Subject: Enterprise Anti-Virus, rz...@qwest.net
>>
>> 4/21/2010 Subject: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise, jholmg...@xlhealth.com
>>
>> 5/06/2010 Subject: NOD32 Antivirus, jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu
>>
>> 5/09/2010 Subject: Life just keeps getting better,
>> kurt.b...@gmail.com
>>
>> 7/29/2010 Subject: Vipre effectiveness & false positives,
>> c.house...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *1) Installation / Deployment*
>>
>> Server installs both went smooth.  In deployment Sophos had few if any
>> issues. Viper deployment to server required countless exclusions (painfully
>> so)… in fact when our server crashed, we were told that a few exclusions
>> were missing (Agh!). Viper deployment to host on two systems came with MANY
>> surprises. The Vipre agent loaded a “NDIS IM” element in the TCPIP stack,
>> causing CISCO (IPSec) clients to connect… oddly not allowing us to remote
>> TS, Dameware, and other remote applications. SonicWall VPN clients remained
>> unaffected. Vipre even caused slowness, freezing during printing,
>> multi-tasking, and issues with Adobe Acrobat. Some of these issues we just
>> gave up on attempting to resolve and disabled the firewall entirely. When a
>> MSP firm cannot remote access…this is serious!! We couldn’t get support soon
>> enough… and unfortunately cases remain open 4-5 days after the fact. Vipre
>> left our accounting department, using a PSA software (ConnectWise), locked
>> out for an entire day.
>>
>>
>>
>> *2) Post Installation*
>>
>> Sophos agent with firewall was documented as utilizing up to 150+ MB of
>> RAM (enormous)… we were told, “…the price you pay for good protection”.  We
>> were not comforted, despite this fact the users never complained about
>> slower speeds.  Vipre utilized a fraction of this, maybe 7 MB… albeit given
>> the deployment issues (above) we remain unimpressed by any benefit there
>> might be. Sophos comes along with definitions updated hourly, Vipre (so we
>> are told) is heading in this direction too. Vipre currently is defaulted to
>> update every 3-hours, and that default can be changed (…the value??).
>>
>>
>>
>> *3) 2

Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[Eric Wittersheim]

Understood, but in my experience an agent update typically has been
considered any upgrade.  I have not had any updates or upgrades to the
agents after migrating to 4 but prior to that I have had to reboot the
agents after updating the agent version.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:08 AM, John Aldrich
wrote:

>  Upgrade =/= update
>
>
>
> During an upgrade from 3.5 to 4, I would expect to need to reboot. However,
> I think you’ll find that after the initial reboot(s) required to install the
> new agent, etc that you won’t have to reboot for updates. At least that’s
> been my experience.
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:03 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)
>
>
>
> I just upgraded from 3 to 4 and all agents required a reboot.
> Additionally, Windows 7 clients and Server 2008 clients required 2 reboots.
> Ugg!
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:00 AM, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting observation on the Agent reboots. I’ve had Vipre here for about
> 6 months now and rarely have we needed to reboot our systems since upgrading
> to Vipre Enterprise 4.0. Yes, Vipre 3.5 did require reboots on agent
> updates, but Vipre 4 has not, in my experience, required a reboot for an
> agent update. You don’t state which version of Vipre you were testing, but
> I’m guessing you tested Vipre 3.5. You may be pleasantly surprised by Vipre
> Enterprise 4.
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:54 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)
>
>
>
> Well done on the evaluation, Jeff.
>
>
>
> I expect that it will be helpful to many, including Sunbelt.
>
>
>
> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
> * *
>
> Signature powered by WiseStamp 
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jeff S. Gottlieb <
> jeff.s.gottl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> We are in an SMB environment of roughly 60 servers and 1000 hosts,
> including Server 2003, 2008, SBS2003, SBS2008, XP Pro SP3, Windows 7, and
> Vista workstations. Sophos Endpoint Security along with PureMessaging, and
> Vipre Enterprise Premium along with Vipre Email Security are being put to
> the test head-to-head.
>
>
>
> We are staunch fans of Sunbelt Software.  Our experiences with Vipre Email
> Security (much improved over Ninja) has been great over the years.  For over
> 10-years we have placed our trust in Trend Micro, something that has
> deteriorated slowly over the past 24-months.  In any event, we are hoping
> that our published comparisons will meet objectivity, and help to give 
> reassurance
> to future Vipre users regardless of the decisions we ultimately made.
>
>
>
> The Sunbelt *'NT System Admin Issues'* forum has been a great help, dating
> back to April, more specifically…
>
>
>
> 4/01/2010 Subject: Enterprise Anti-Virus, rz...@qwest.net
>
> 4/21/2010 Subject: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise, jholmg...@xlhealth.com
>
> 5/06/2010 Subject: NOD32 Antivirus, jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu
>
> 5/09/2010 Subject: Life just keeps getting better, kurt.b...@gmail.com
>
> 7/29/2010 Subject: Vipre effectiveness & false positives,
> c.house...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> *1) Installation / Deployment*
>
> Server installs both went smooth.  In deployment Sophos had few if any
> issues. Viper deployment to server required countless exclusions (painfully
> so)… in fact when our server crashed, we were told that a few exclusions
> were missing (Agh!). Viper deployment to host on two systems came with MANY
> surprises. The Vipre agent loaded a “NDIS IM” element in the TCPIP stack,
> causing CISCO (IPSec) clients to connect… oddly not allowing us to remote
> TS, Dameware, and other remote applications. SonicWall VPN clients remained
> unaffected. Vipre even caused slowness, freezing during printing,
> multi-tasking, and issues with Adobe Acrobat. Some of these issues we just
> gave up on attempting to resolve and disabled the firewall entirely. When a
> MSP firm cannot remote access…this is serious!! We couldn’t get support soon
> enough… and unfortunately cases remain open 4-5 days after the fact. Vipre
> left our accounting department, using a PSA software (ConnectWise), locked
> out for an entire day.
>
>
>
> *2) Post Installation*
>
> Sophos agent with firewall was documented as utilizing up to 150+ MB of RAM
> (enormous)… we were told, “…the price you pay for good protection”.  We were
> not comforted, despite this fact the users never complained about slower
> speeds.  Vipre utilized a fraction of this, maybe 7 MB… albeit given the
> deployment issues (above) we remain unimpressed by any benefit th

RE: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[John Aldrich]

Upgrade =/= update

 

During an upgrade from 3.5 to 4, I would expect to need to reboot. However,
I think you'll find that after the initial reboot(s) required to install the
new agent, etc that you won't have to reboot for updates. At least that's
been my experience.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

 

I just upgraded from 3 to 4 and all agents required a reboot.  Additionally,
Windows 7 clients and Server 2008 clients required 2 reboots. Ugg!

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:00 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:

Interesting observation on the Agent reboots. I've had Vipre here for about
6 months now and rarely have we needed to reboot our systems since upgrading
to Vipre Enterprise 4.0. Yes, Vipre 3.5 did require reboots on agent
updates, but Vipre 4 has not, in my experience, required a reboot for an
agent update. You don't state which version of Vipre you were testing, but
I'm guessing you tested Vipre 3.5. You may be pleasantly surprised by Vipre
Enterprise 4.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

 

Well done on the evaluation, Jeff.

 

I expect that it will be helpful to many, including Sunbelt.



ASB (My XeeSM Profile)   
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...
 

Signature powered by   WiseStamp 

 

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jeff S. Gottlieb
 wrote:

 

We are in an SMB environment of roughly 60 servers and 1000 hosts, including
Server 2003, 2008, SBS2003, SBS2008, XP Pro SP3, Windows 7, and Vista
workstations. Sophos Endpoint Security along with PureMessaging, and Vipre
Enterprise Premium along with Vipre Email Security are being put to the test
head-to-head.

 

We are staunch fans of Sunbelt Software.  Our experiences with Vipre Email
Security (much improved over Ninja) has been great over the years.  For over
10-years we have placed our trust in Trend Micro, something that has
deteriorated slowly over the past 24-months.  In any event, we are hoping
that our published comparisons will meet objectivity, and help to give
reassurance to future Vipre users regardless of the decisions we ultimately
made.

 

The Sunbelt 'NT System Admin Issues' forum has been a great help, dating
back to April, more specifically.

 

4/01/2010 Subject: Enterprise Anti-Virus, rz...@qwest.net

4/21/2010 Subject: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise, jholmg...@xlhealth.com

5/06/2010 Subject: NOD32 Antivirus, jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu

5/09/2010 Subject: Life just keeps getting better, kurt.b...@gmail.com

7/29/2010 Subject: Vipre effectiveness & false positives,
c.house...@gmail.com

 

1) Installation / Deployment

Server installs both went smooth.  In deployment Sophos had few if any
issues. Viper deployment to server required countless exclusions (painfully
so). in fact when our server crashed, we were told that a few exclusions
were missing (Agh!). Viper deployment to host on two systems came with MANY
surprises. The Vipre agent loaded a "NDIS IM" element in the TCPIP stack,
causing CISCO (IPSec) clients to connect. oddly not allowing us to remote
TS, Dameware, and other remote applications. SonicWall VPN clients remained
unaffected. Vipre even caused slowness, freezing during printing,
multi-tasking, and issues with Adobe Acrobat. Some of these issues we just
gave up on attempting to resolve and disabled the firewall entirely. When a
MSP firm cannot remote access.this is serious!! We couldn't get support soon
enough. and unfortunately cases remain open 4-5 days after the fact. Vipre
left our accounting department, using a PSA software (ConnectWise), locked
out for an entire day.

 

2) Post Installation

Sophos agent with firewall was documented as utilizing up to 150+ MB of RAM
(enormous). we were told, ".the price you pay for good protection".  We were
not comforted, despite this fact the users never complained about slower
speeds.  Vipre utilized a fraction of this, maybe 7 MB. albeit given the
deployment issues (above) we remain unimpressed by any benefit there might
be. Sophos comes along with definitions updated hourly, Vipre (so we are
told) is heading in this direction too. Vipre currently is defaulted to
update every 3-hours, and that default can be changed (.the value??). 

 

3) 24-hour Enterprise support

Vipre Enterprise technicians we found were skilled, sadly they are scantily
available on weekend (evenings).

Sophos Endpoint Security we found were equally skilled and *always*
available.  Despite not having a "Premium" support agreement, we found
Sophos enthusiastic when it came to remote access (LogMeIn). If (in the rare
occasion) Vipre was asked to remo

Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[Eric Wittersheim]

I just upgraded from 3 to 4 and all agents required a reboot.  Additionally,
Windows 7 clients and Server 2008 clients required 2 reboots. Ugg!

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:00 AM, John Aldrich
wrote:

>  Interesting observation on the Agent reboots. I’ve had Vipre here for
> about 6 months now and rarely have we needed to reboot our systems since
> upgrading to Vipre Enterprise 4.0. Yes, Vipre 3.5 did require reboots on
> agent updates, but Vipre 4 has not, in my experience, required a reboot for
> an agent update. You don’t state which version of Vipre you were testing,
> but I’m guessing you tested Vipre 3.5. You may be pleasantly surprised by
> Vipre Enterprise 4.
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:54 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)
>
>
>
> Well done on the evaluation, Jeff.
>
>
>
> I expect that it will be helpful to many, including Sunbelt.
>
>
>
> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
> * *
>
> Signature powered by WiseStamp 
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jeff S. Gottlieb <
> jeff.s.gottl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> We are in an SMB environment of roughly 60 servers and 1000 hosts,
> including Server 2003, 2008, SBS2003, SBS2008, XP Pro SP3, Windows 7, and
> Vista workstations. Sophos Endpoint Security along with PureMessaging, and
> Vipre Enterprise Premium along with Vipre Email Security are being put to
> the test head-to-head.
>
>
>
> We are staunch fans of Sunbelt Software.  Our experiences with Vipre Email
> Security (much improved over Ninja) has been great over the years.  For over
> 10-years we have placed our trust in Trend Micro, something that has
> deteriorated slowly over the past 24-months.  In any event, we are hoping
> that our published comparisons will meet objectivity, and help to give 
> reassurance
> to future Vipre users regardless of the decisions we ultimately made.
>
>
>
> The Sunbelt *'NT System Admin Issues'* forum has been a great help, dating
> back to April, more specifically…
>
>
>
> 4/01/2010 Subject: Enterprise Anti-Virus, rz...@qwest.net
>
> 4/21/2010 Subject: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise, jholmg...@xlhealth.com
>
> 5/06/2010 Subject: NOD32 Antivirus, jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu
>
> 5/09/2010 Subject: Life just keeps getting better, kurt.b...@gmail.com
>
> 7/29/2010 Subject: Vipre effectiveness & false positives,
> c.house...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> *1) Installation / Deployment*
>
> Server installs both went smooth.  In deployment Sophos had few if any
> issues. Viper deployment to server required countless exclusions (painfully
> so)… in fact when our server crashed, we were told that a few exclusions
> were missing (Agh!). Viper deployment to host on two systems came with MANY
> surprises. The Vipre agent loaded a “NDIS IM” element in the TCPIP stack,
> causing CISCO (IPSec) clients to connect… oddly not allowing us to remote
> TS, Dameware, and other remote applications. SonicWall VPN clients remained
> unaffected. Vipre even caused slowness, freezing during printing,
> multi-tasking, and issues with Adobe Acrobat. Some of these issues we just
> gave up on attempting to resolve and disabled the firewall entirely. When a
> MSP firm cannot remote access…this is serious!! We couldn’t get support soon
> enough… and unfortunately cases remain open 4-5 days after the fact. Vipre
> left our accounting department, using a PSA software (ConnectWise), locked
> out for an entire day.
>
>
>
> *2) Post Installation*
>
> Sophos agent with firewall was documented as utilizing up to 150+ MB of RAM
> (enormous)… we were told, “…the price you pay for good protection”.  We were
> not comforted, despite this fact the users never complained about slower
> speeds.  Vipre utilized a fraction of this, maybe 7 MB… albeit given the
> deployment issues (above) we remain unimpressed by any benefit there might
> be. Sophos comes along with definitions updated hourly, Vipre (so we are
> told) is heading in this direction too. Vipre currently is defaulted to
> update every 3-hours, and that default can be changed (…the value??).
>
>
>
> *3) 24-hour Enterprise support*
>
> Vipre Enterprise technicians we found were skilled, sadly they are scantily
> available on weekend (evenings).
>
> Sophos Endpoint Security we found were equally skilled and **always**
> available.  Despite not having a “Premium” support agreement, we found
> Sophos enthusiastic when it came to remote access (LogMeIn). If (in the rare
> occasion) Vipre was asked to remote, remote was either unavailable or they
> were flat out reluctant. Vipre on several occasions seemed overwhelmed…
> Sophos **never** gave us that feeling.
>
>
>
> *4) Additional Items*
>
> Sophos PureMessaging (SPAM filter) catches SPAM well (notice we didn’t

RE: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

[John Aldrich]

Interesting observation on the Agent reboots. I've had Vipre here for about
6 months now and rarely have we needed to reboot our systems since upgrading
to Vipre Enterprise 4.0. Yes, Vipre 3.5 did require reboots on agent
updates, but Vipre 4 has not, in my experience, required a reboot for an
agent update. You don't state which version of Vipre you were testing, but
I'm guessing you tested Vipre 3.5. You may be pleasantly surprised by Vipre
Enterprise 4.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise (now that we have tested both)

 

Well done on the evaluation, Jeff.

 

I expect that it will be helpful to many, including Sunbelt.



ASB   (My XeeSM Profile) 
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...
 

Signature powered by   WiseStamp 

 

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jeff S. Gottlieb
 wrote:

 

We are in an SMB environment of roughly 60 servers and 1000 hosts, including
Server 2003, 2008, SBS2003, SBS2008, XP Pro SP3, Windows 7, and Vista
workstations. Sophos Endpoint Security along with PureMessaging, and Vipre
Enterprise Premium along with Vipre Email Security are being put to the test
head-to-head.

 

We are staunch fans of Sunbelt Software.  Our experiences with Vipre Email
Security (much improved over Ninja) has been great over the years.  For over
10-years we have placed our trust in Trend Micro, something that has
deteriorated slowly over the past 24-months.  In any event, we are hoping
that our published comparisons will meet objectivity, and help to give
reassurance to future Vipre users regardless of the decisions we ultimately
made.

 

The Sunbelt 'NT System Admin Issues' forum has been a great help, dating
back to April, more specifically.

 

4/01/2010 Subject: Enterprise Anti-Virus, rz...@qwest.net

4/21/2010 Subject: Sophos vs. Vipre Enterprise, jholmg...@xlhealth.com

5/06/2010 Subject: NOD32 Antivirus, jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu

5/09/2010 Subject: Life just keeps getting better, kurt.b...@gmail.com

7/29/2010 Subject: Vipre effectiveness & false positives,
c.house...@gmail.com

 

1) Installation / Deployment

Server installs both went smooth.  In deployment Sophos had few if any
issues. Viper deployment to server required countless exclusions (painfully
so). in fact when our server crashed, we were told that a few exclusions
were missing (Agh!). Viper deployment to host on two systems came with MANY
surprises. The Vipre agent loaded a "NDIS IM" element in the TCPIP stack,
causing CISCO (IPSec) clients to connect. oddly not allowing us to remote
TS, Dameware, and other remote applications. SonicWall VPN clients remained
unaffected. Vipre even caused slowness, freezing during printing,
multi-tasking, and issues with Adobe Acrobat. Some of these issues we just
gave up on attempting to resolve and disabled the firewall entirely. When a
MSP firm cannot remote access.this is serious!! We couldn't get support soon
enough. and unfortunately cases remain open 4-5 days after the fact. Vipre
left our accounting department, using a PSA software (ConnectWise), locked
out for an entire day.

 

2) Post Installation

Sophos agent with firewall was documented as utilizing up to 150+ MB of RAM
(enormous). we were told, ".the price you pay for good protection".  We were
not comforted, despite this fact the users never complained about slower
speeds.  Vipre utilized a fraction of this, maybe 7 MB. albeit given the
deployment issues (above) we remain unimpressed by any benefit there might
be. Sophos comes along with definitions updated hourly, Vipre (so we are
told) is heading in this direction too. Vipre currently is defaulted to
update every 3-hours, and that default can be changed (.the value??). 

 

3) 24-hour Enterprise support

Vipre Enterprise technicians we found were skilled, sadly they are scantily
available on weekend (evenings).

Sophos Endpoint Security we found were equally skilled and *always*
available.  Despite not having a "Premium" support agreement, we found
Sophos enthusiastic when it came to remote access (LogMeIn). If (in the rare
occasion) Vipre was asked to remote, remote was either unavailable or they
were flat out reluctant. Vipre on several occasions seemed overwhelmed.
Sophos *never* gave us that feeling.

 

4) Additional Items

Sophos PureMessaging (SPAM filter) catches SPAM well (notice we didn't say
unsolicited advertisements). If you differentiate (most do) between the two
you will NOT enjoy PureMessaging. Additionally with PureMessaging each
account receives email called "spam digest", there are options to either
Delete or Deliver.  In either event chosen, this is a singular event. it
does NOT automatically allow or block these addresses on a going forward
basis. It's impossible meeting the demands of users wanting NOT to receive
Golf Digest 

RE: BES Express

[John Aldrich]

Hosted email. J Our ISP has a POP3 server that we use. Eventually I want to
bring email in-house, but it likely won't be this year and maybe not next
year. We'll have to see how the economy goes. I'm also looking at storage,
which I think needs to come before email. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 5:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES Express

 

What do you have?

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BES Express

 

Anyone know if BES Express can work if you DON'T have an Exchange server? I
was under the impression that pretty much all flavors of Blackberry server
required an Exchange server. Our CEO just forwarded me something about BES
Express, and the website it directs you to isn't clear about whether it'll
work if your on a POP3 server.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

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