Re: Deploying Printers via GPO

2010-09-17 Thread James Rankin
It's the GPO that allows Vista and above to automatically install the
drivers when they are not present. Otherwise it hangs at the GPO
application.

I've just changed jobs so can't dig out the exact GPO setting, sorry!

On 16 September 2010 16:01, Miller Bonnie L.
mille...@mukilteo.wednet.eduwrote:

  +1, works well for us here too, but we target the computer ou + the user
 group in combo.  James—can you clarify what you mean on the Point and print
 restrictions?  I don’t think we have that set and I’m wondering what the
 issue is/was.



 For XP machines, make sure you have the latest GPP preferences update
 applied for this all to work.



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:15 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Deploying Printers via GPO



 Use loopback policy processing on your computers OU, deploy the Group
 Policy Preferences printers list as a user config applied to the computers
 OU, set the default printer through that, and target it to the required
 users.

 Make sure you set the GPO with the point-and-print restrictions as well, so
 it doesn't hang when popping up the box to install the driver if there isn't
 a suitable one installed.

 On 15 September 2010 18:02, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote:

 Good afternoon all,

 Currently in a 08 domain with all XP workstations SP3 and
 GPO extensions installed.  I need to deploy printers based on the machine
 and not the user.  I see I can deploy printers to computers through a GPO,
 BUT you can’t set the default printer that way.  It looks like I can deploy
 the printers to the user, then use ‘item-level targeting’ so it applies only
 when users logon to computers in certain OU’s.   Is there a better way to
 skin this cat?



 Should I make a printer policy per OU, or make 1 global one with all the
 printers and assign them with the item-level targeting?



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ESXi box failing to start

2010-09-17 Thread James Rankin
I've got an ESXi box failing to start that stops with an error of failed to
load lvmdriver. All my Google-fu points to an incompatible network card,
but it was working fine until a few days ago. I've tried starting it with
the NICs disabled, but it makes no difference whatsoever. Does anyone have
any ideas what might be causing it?

TIA,



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Re: Switch opinions

2010-09-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Rohyans, Aaron arohy...@dpsciences.com wrote:
 As compared to HP’s “Clustering” which allows you to manage a stack of up
 to 16 switches via one IP address *individually* through the master switch
 (which is manually elected).

  HP's current stuff (going back at least to 2005) is called
stacking, not clustering.  You do have to manually designate the
commander (master), but given that their stacking doesn't use
special cables, I think that's fair (would you want every switch you
put on a network automatically turning themselves into a stack?).
Once you've designated a commander, you can configure it to auto-grab
members.  You can hot add/remove members.

 Each switch is its own unit with individual
 configuration and provisioning – including VLANs, software, etc.

  This is correct.  Given how diverse stack members can be, I think
that's unavoidable.  You can't run the same software image on
completely different models/generations for Cisco, can you?

 Connections are via ‘uplinks’ to other switches, which rely on STP to manage
 stack resiliency.

  Yes.  You don't need special cables or modules or protocols; it's
standard networking, with standard link aggregation and control.  This
means your stack is as flexible as your network; your stack can
actually be quite physically separated.  You can even put non-HP
switches in-between your HP stack members.

 Mixing 10/100 w/ GigaE switches in a cluster is not
 possible…. At least, not that I’m aware of.

  It is absolutely possible.  You can also mix several generations and
configurations (e.g., 4000M with a 2810) in a single stack.

 …As compared to HP ProCurve’s Buffers/Chipsets which are based on Broadcom’s
 latest generation of ASIC.

  Citation needed.  HP makes their own ASICs as far as I know; they
even have a brand name, ProVision.

  It is widely known that these chipsets have an
 inherent flaw (referred to as N+1 buffer overflowing)

http://www.google.com/search?q=+%22N%2B1+buffer+overflowing%22

http://www.google.com/search?q=+%22N%2B1+buffer+overflow%22

  No matches for either.  If it's so widely known, you would think
there would be mention of it *somewhere* on the Internet.

 o   Voice VLAN… Voice traffic can be shielded from data traffic and
 broadcast storms (this feature exists in ProCurve switches, but for sake of
 argument, I’m including it here)

  Just for the sake of argument, I'll point out that we're doing this
on our ProCurve's right now.

 o   Granular QoS… QoS allowing you to map/tag (and even ‘re-tag’) specific
 traffic to specific queues… prioritize buffers/system resources for
 servicing voice traffic...

  Check.  Doing that now.

 Not to mention advanced queuing/congestion
 avoidance algorithms that take network efficiency down to the port level
 (alleviating upstream routers)…

  I can certainly configure QoS on per-port basis.

 Shaped Round Robin queuing (servicing
 traffic buffers proportionally to administratively defined weights while
 “buffering” traffic in order to achieve more accurate line-rate), and
 Weighted Random Early Detection (TCP congestion avoidance by dropping
 packets at pre-defined thresholds so as to alleviate TCP Synchronization).

  I'll admit you're over my head here.  I don't know if that's possible or not.

 I can even go so far as to protect the Control-Plane of the switch through
 QoS ...

  Check.  Configure the management VLAN with highest priority.

 Modular QoS… using the techniques described above, I am no longer
 limited to applying a “global” QoS policy to the switch (as I am with HP
 switches).  Policies can be defined per-port or per traffic class… thus
 servicing different ports/traffic using different thresholds/queues/etc.

  The ProCurve command would be something like:

interface 5 qos priority 3

 ... Cisco-approved best practice QoS templates for converged network
 solutions ..

  Bingo!  (As in, buzzword bingo.)

 SmartPorts – offer Cisco switches the ability to identify IP Phones/PCs
 attached to a single access port and dynamically configure themselves as a
 trunk port – providing for features such as the Voice VLAN and 802.1p based
 QoS (to the end-user… not just on switch-to-switch or switch-to-router
 uplinks – as is the case with HP switches).

  Our IP phones are plugged into our ProCurve switches.  The switches
use LLDP MED to configure the phones with their VLAN IDs and
priorities.  Voice traffic is given priority over data traffic from
the PCs daisy-chained off the phones.  There's no need to configure
the switch port as a trunk port because ProCurve's aren't limited by
Cisco's artificial trunk port concept; you can configure VLAN
behavior however you want, on each individual port.

 o   DHCP Snooping – ability of the switch to prevent rogue/unwanted DHCP
 servers from entering the network so as to thwart MiTM attacks, or general
 mischief caused by end-users.

How to configure DHCP Snooping on ProCurve switches

Foundation Server and TS boxes

2010-09-17 Thread Oliver Marshall
Is Foundation Server suitable for use on a TS (remote desktop) server ?

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Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Paul Hutchings
I'm testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a
route based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in
Site B any traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to
the Internet via our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I'm struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of
course the router to the ISP.

 

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RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
Static route on the local systems for the remote ‘main’ firewall/internet
via the local IP of your local Juniper, and a default gateway on local
systems pointing to that remote main firewall ?

 

Erik Goldoff

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Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I’m testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a route
based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in Site B any
traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to the Internet via
our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I’m struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of course
the router to the ISP.

 

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RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Paul Hutchings
Erik can you expand a little please?

 

Site A (main site) 10.60.0.0/16 main firewall IP of 10.60.1.1

 

Site B (remote site) 192.168.99.0/24 - junipers LAN IP is 192.168.99.1

 

At Site B right now everyone's default gateway would be 192.168.99.1 but
the VPN tunnels all traffic for 10.60.0.0/16 over the tunnel1.interface
to the firewall at site B.

 

Whilst I get what VPN's are/what they do I've not had much hands on and
each vendor seems to do the same thing a slightly different way.

 

Thanks,

Paul

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 12:31
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

Static route on the local systems for the remote 'main'
firewall/internet via the local IP of your local Juniper, and a default
gateway on local systems pointing to that remote main firewall ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I'm testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a
route based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in
Site B any traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to
the Internet via our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I'm struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of
course the router to the ISP.

 

Thanks.



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RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
OK, at site B you set up a static route 

   10.60.1.1  255.255.255.255  - 192.168.99.1- so that all site B
computers know how to get to the main firewall via the local firewall ( the
local firewall will know to traverse the VPN and not the public internet )

 

Also at site B you set up a default gateway route 

  0.0.0.0  0.0.0.0  - 10.60.1.1   so that all default traffic goes to the
main site.

 

 

Alternatively, you could put a static route in the remote Juniper to locate
the public IP of the Main firewall via the remote internet/public port
address  ( to facilitate the tunnel ) and a default gateway in the remote
Juniper to the main firewall at 10.60.1.1

This way, ONLY the traffic to create the tunnel will travel the internet
connection on the remote Juniper, and ALL OTHER traffic is forced over the
tunnel.  This would complicate any remote configuration/access to the
Juniper at 192.168.99.1 except from within the main site

Erik Goldoff

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Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

Erik can you expand a little please?

 

Site A (main site) 10.60.0.0/16 main firewall IP of 10.60.1.1

 

Site B (remote site) 192.168.99.0/24 – junipers LAN IP is 192.168.99.1

 

At Site B right now everyone’s default gateway would be 192.168.99.1 but the
VPN tunnels all traffic for 10.60.0.0/16 over the tunnel1.interface to the
firewall at site B.

 

Whilst I get what VPN’s are/what they do I’ve not had much hands on and each
vendor seems to do the same thing a slightly different way.

 

Thanks,

Paul

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 12:31
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

Static route on the local systems for the remote ‘main’ firewall/internet
via the local IP of your local Juniper, and a default gateway on local
systems pointing to that remote main firewall ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I’m testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a route
based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in Site B any
traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to the Internet via
our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I’m struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of course
the router to the ISP.

 

Thanks.

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RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
And yes, I know, the default gateway by original definition is supposed to
live adjacent on the same subnet as the station.

 

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Systems, Networks,  Security 

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From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

OK, at site B you set up a static route 

   10.60.1.1  255.255.255.255  - 192.168.99.1- so that all site B
computers know how to get to the main firewall via the local firewall ( the
local firewall will know to traverse the VPN and not the public internet )

 

Also at site B you set up a default gateway route 

  0.0.0.0  0.0.0.0  - 10.60.1.1   so that all default traffic goes to the
main site.

 

 

Alternatively, you could put a static route in the remote Juniper to locate
the public IP of the Main firewall via the remote internet/public port
address  ( to facilitate the tunnel ) and a default gateway in the remote
Juniper to the main firewall at 10.60.1.1

This way, ONLY the traffic to create the tunnel will travel the internet
connection on the remote Juniper, and ALL OTHER traffic is forced over the
tunnel.  This would complicate any remote configuration/access to the
Juniper at 192.168.99.1 except from within the main site

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

Erik can you expand a little please?

 

Site A (main site) 10.60.0.0/16 main firewall IP of 10.60.1.1

 

Site B (remote site) 192.168.99.0/24 – junipers LAN IP is 192.168.99.1

 

At Site B right now everyone’s default gateway would be 192.168.99.1 but the
VPN tunnels all traffic for 10.60.0.0/16 over the tunnel1.interface to the
firewall at site B.

 

Whilst I get what VPN’s are/what they do I’ve not had much hands on and each
vendor seems to do the same thing a slightly different way.

 

Thanks,

Paul

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 12:31
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

Static route on the local systems for the remote ‘main’ firewall/internet
via the local IP of your local Juniper, and a default gateway on local
systems pointing to that remote main firewall ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I’m testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a route
based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in Site B any
traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to the Internet via
our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I’m struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of course
the router to the ISP.

 

Thanks.

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RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
OK, apologies, coffee just kicking in here,  quite a few hours earlier than
where you are.

 

Possibly a better method using the Juniper policies.

 

In your  Trust to Untrust, or Trust to Global  policies

Create an ANY-ANY-ANY-TUNNEL ( Source Destination Service Action ) using the
tunnel created between sites.

For any device on the remote subnet that needs direct access, create a
policy with ANY-ANY-ANY-Permit  and place it above this any-any-any-tunnel
rule 

 

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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I’m testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a route
based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in Site B any
traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to the Internet via
our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I’m struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of course
the router to the ISP.

 

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RE: ESXi box failing to start

2010-09-17 Thread Joseph L. Casale
AFAIK ESXi wont start w/o a nic at all.

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 1:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ESXi box failing to start

I've got an ESXi box failing to start that stops with an error of failed to 
load lvmdriver. All my Google-fu points to an incompatible network card, but 
it was working fine until a few days ago. I've tried starting it with the NICs 
disabled, but it makes no difference whatsoever. Does anyone have any ideas 
what might be causing it?

TIA,



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Re: ESXi box failing to start

2010-09-17 Thread James Rankin
I think that's correct, but this one won't start with them enabled either,
and it was working fine until recently. Is there any equivalent of the
ping command in the ESXi tech support console that anyone knows of?

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  AFAIK ESXi wont start w/o a nic at all.



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 1:12 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* ESXi box failing to start



 I've got an ESXi box failing to start that stops with an error of failed
 to load lvmdriver. All my Google-fu points to an incompatible network card,
 but it was working fine until a few days ago. I've tried starting it with
 the NICs disabled, but it makes no difference whatsoever. Does anyone have
 any ideas what might be causing it?

 TIA,



 JRR

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RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
Erik Goldoff would like to recall this message “ RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel
Query “

 

But as well all know, that capability does not exist within Outlook’s SMTP
messaging, so instead, please limit the forthcoming derision and ridicule to
a fun, jovial nature appropriate for a Friday J 

 

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Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

OK, at site B you set up a static route 

   10.60.1.1  255.255.255.255  - 192.168.99.1- so that all site B
computers know how to get to the main firewall via the local firewall ( the
local firewall will know to traverse the VPN and not the public internet )

 

Also at site B you set up a default gateway route 

  0.0.0.0  0.0.0.0  - 10.60.1.1   so that all default traffic goes to the
main site.

 

 

Alternatively, you could put a static route in the remote Juniper to locate
the public IP of the Main firewall via the remote internet/public port
address  ( to facilitate the tunnel ) and a default gateway in the remote
Juniper to the main firewall at 10.60.1.1

This way, ONLY the traffic to create the tunnel will travel the internet
connection on the remote Juniper, and ALL OTHER traffic is forced over the
tunnel.  This would complicate any remote configuration/access to the
Juniper at 192.168.99.1 except from within the main site

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

Erik can you expand a little please?

 

Site A (main site) 10.60.0.0/16 main firewall IP of 10.60.1.1

 

Site B (remote site) 192.168.99.0/24 – junipers LAN IP is 192.168.99.1

 

At Site B right now everyone’s default gateway would be 192.168.99.1 but the
VPN tunnels all traffic for 10.60.0.0/16 over the tunnel1.interface to the
firewall at site B.

 

Whilst I get what VPN’s are/what they do I’ve not had much hands on and each
vendor seems to do the same thing a slightly different way.

 

Thanks,

Paul

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 12:31
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

Static route on the local systems for the remote ‘main’ firewall/internet
via the local IP of your local Juniper, and a default gateway on local
systems pointing to that remote main firewall ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I’m testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a route
based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in Site B any
traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to the Internet via
our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I’m struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of course
the router to the ISP.

 

Thanks.

  _  

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Registered in England and Wales No. 402570

VAT Registration  GB 114 5409 96

 

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Re: ESXi box failing to start

2010-09-17 Thread RichardMcClary
Out of curiosity, why does a logical volume manager problem make you think 
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James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote on 09/17/2010 02:11:54 AM:

 I've got an ESXi box failing to start that stops with an error of 
 failed to load lvmdriver. All my Google-fu points to an 
 incompatible network card, but it was working fine until a few days 
 ago. I've tried starting it with the NICs disabled, but it makes no 
 difference whatsoever. Does anyone have any ideas what might be causing 
it?
 
 TIA,
 
 
 
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Re: ESXi box failing to start

2010-09-17 Thread James Rankin
There's also the fact that the server doesn't respond to a ping in the mix
too

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 Out of curiosity, why does a logical volume manager problem make you think
 NIC?
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  I've got an ESXi box failing to start that stops with an error of
  failed to load lvmdriver. All my Google-fu points to an
  incompatible network card, but it was working fine until a few days
  ago. I've tried starting it with the NICs disabled, but it makes no
  difference whatsoever. Does anyone have any ideas what might be causing
 it?
 
  TIA,
 
 
 
  JRR
 
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  into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
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Re: ESXi box failing to start

2010-09-17 Thread James Rankin
Everything in Google's search results screams NIC - but as yet, Google
does not know all.

Educate me, please...should I be looking somewhere else?

On 17 September 2010 13:06, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:


 Out of curiosity, why does a logical volume manager problem make you think
 NIC?
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  I've got an ESXi box failing to start that stops with an error of
  failed to load lvmdriver. All my Google-fu points to an
  incompatible network card, but it was working fine until a few days
  ago. I've tried starting it with the NICs disabled, but it makes no
  difference whatsoever. Does anyone have any ideas what might be causing
 it?
 
  TIA,
 
 
 
  JRR
 
  --
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  into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
  am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
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Re: Foundation Server and TS boxes

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
How much ram? What procs? How many users?

I'd be inclined to say no, except for the smallest scenarios.

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Re: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
It's a deal!

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 Erik Goldoff would like to recall this message “ RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel
 Query “



 But as well all know, that capability does not exist within Outlook’s SMTP
 messaging, so instead, please limit the forthcoming derision and ridicule
to
 a fun, jovial nature appropriate for a Friday J



 Erik Goldoff

 IT Consultant

 Systems, Networks,  Security

 ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

 From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:49 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query



 OK, at site B you set up a static route

 10.60.1.1 255.255.255.255 - 192.168.99.1 - so that all site B
 computers know how to get to the main firewall via the local firewall (
the
 local firewall will know to traverse the VPN and not the public internet )



 Also at site B you set up a default gateway route

 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 - 10.60.1.1 so that all default traffic goes to the
 main site.





 Alternatively, you could put a static route in the remote Juniper to
locate
 the public IP of the Main firewall via the remote internet/public port
 address ( to facilitate the tunnel ) and a default gateway in the remote
 Juniper to the main firewall at 10.60.1.1

 This way, ONLY the traffic to create the tunnel will travel the internet
 connection on the remote Juniper, and ALL OTHER traffic is forced over the
 tunnel. This would complicate any remote configuration/access to the
 Juniper at 192.168.99.1 except from within the main site

 Erik Goldoff

 IT Consultant

 Systems, Networks,  Security

 ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

 From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:35 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query



 Erik can you expand a little please?



 Site A (main site) 10.60.0.0/16 main firewall IP of 10.60.1.1



 Site B (remote site) 192.168.99.0/24 – junipers LAN IP is 192.168.99.1



 At Site B right now everyone’s default gateway would be 192.168.99.1 but
the
 VPN tunnels all traffic for 10.60.0.0/16 over the tunnel1.interface to the
 firewall at site B.



 Whilst I get what VPN’s are/what they do I’ve not had much hands on and
each
 vendor seems to do the same thing a slightly different way.



 Thanks,

 Paul



 From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 17 September 2010 12:31
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query



 Static route on the local systems for the remote ‘main’ firewall/internet
 via the local IP of your local Juniper, and a default gateway on local
 systems pointing to that remote main firewall ?



 Erik Goldoff

 IT Consultant

 Systems, Networks,  Security

 ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

 From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query



 I’m testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.



 I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a
route
 based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in Site B any
 traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to the Internet
via
 our main firewall/internet connection.



 I’m struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
 ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of course
 the router to the ISP.



 Thanks.

 _

 MIRA Ltd



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Re: ESXi box failing to start

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Perhaps the NIC had gone bad.  Try replacing it?

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On Sep 17, 2010 8:00 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I think that's correct, but this one won't start with them enabled either,
 and it was working fine until recently. Is there any equivalent of the
 ping command in the ESXi tech support console that anyone knows of?

 On 17 September 2010 12:58, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com
wrote:

 AFAIK ESXi wont start w/o a nic at all.



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 1:12 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* ESXi box failing to start



 I've got an ESXi box failing to start that stops with an error of failed
 to load lvmdriver. All my Google-fu points to an incompatible network
card,
 but it was working fine until a few days ago. I've tried starting it with
 the NICs disabled, but it makes no difference whatsoever. Does anyone
have
 any ideas what might be causing it?

 TIA,



 JRR

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Re: ESXi box failing to start

2010-09-17 Thread James Rankin
I could do, if there were any around. I'd forgotten how much of a pain
physical servers could be, especially without shared storage in use. I'll
see if I can steal a spare from one of the decommissioned ProLiants that are
(apparently) hiding somewhere.

On 17 September 2010 13:23, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Perhaps the NIC had gone bad.  Try replacing it?

 -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

 Sent from my Motorola Droid

 On Sep 17, 2010 8:00 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
  I think that's correct, but this one won't start with them enabled
 either,
  and it was working fine until recently. Is there any equivalent of the
  ping command in the ESXi tech support console that anyone knows of?
 
  On 17 September 2010 12:58, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com
 wrote:
 
  AFAIK ESXi wont start w/o a nic at all.
 
 
 
  *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
  *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 1:12 AM
  *To:* NT System Admin Issues
  *Subject:* ESXi box failing to start

 
 
 
  I've got an ESXi box failing to start that stops with an error of
 failed
  to load lvmdriver. All my Google-fu points to an incompatible network
 card,
  but it was working fine until a few days ago. I've tried starting it
 with
  the NICs disabled, but it makes no difference whatsoever. Does anyone
 have
  any ideas what might be causing it?
 
  TIA,
 
 
 
  JRR
 
  --
  On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
 into
  the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not
 able
  rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke
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Re: ESXi box failing to start

2010-09-17 Thread RichardMcClary
OK as to why NIC.  Anyway, just because one thing is broken doesn't mean 
more things are not broken...

We switched from HP-UX many many years ago, and I was just getting my feet 
wet as to unix administration.  However, it is sort-of the equivalent of 
the Windows disk managment system.
--
richard

James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote on 09/17/2010 07:07:38 AM:

 Everything in Google's search results screams NIC - but as yet, 
 Google does not know all.
 
 Educate me, please...should I be looking somewhere else?

 On 17 September 2010 13:06, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
 
 Out of curiosity, why does a logical volume manager problem make you
 think NIC?
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  I've got an ESXi box failing to start that stops with an error of 
  failed to load lvmdriver. All my Google-fu points to an 
  incompatible network card, but it was working fine until a few days 
  ago. I've tried starting it with the NICs disabled, but it makes no 
  difference whatsoever. Does anyone have any ideas what might be 
causing it?
  
  TIA,
  
  
  
  JRR
  
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Re: ESXi box failing to start

2010-09-17 Thread James Rankin
I wonder if there is some HP CD I can boot from to do a diagnostics on the
hardware. What's the equivalent of SmartStart these days, and is there a
bootable diagnostics version?

On 17 September 2010 13:36, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:


 OK as to why NIC.  Anyway, just because one thing is broken doesn't mean
 more things are not broken...

 We switched from HP-UX many many years ago, and I was just getting my feet
 wet as to unix administration.  However, it is sort-of the equivalent of the
 Windows disk managment system.
 --
 richard

 James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote on 09/17/2010 07:07:38 AM:


  Everything in Google's search results screams NIC - but as yet,
  Google does not know all.
 
  Educate me, please...should I be looking somewhere else?

  On 17 September 2010 13:06, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
 
  Out of curiosity, why does a logical volume manager problem make you
  think NIC?
  --
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  Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
  ASPCA®
  1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
  Urbana, IL  61802
 
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   I've got an ESXi box failing to start that stops with an error of
   failed to load lvmdriver. All my Google-fu points to an
   incompatible network card, but it was working fine until a few days
   ago. I've tried starting it with the NICs disabled, but it makes no
   difference whatsoever. Does anyone have any ideas what might be causing
 it?
  
   TIA,
  
  
  
   JRR
  
   --
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   into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
   am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
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Re: Deploying Printers via GPO

2010-09-17 Thread James Rankin
it's in User Configuration | Admin Templates | Control Panel | Printers |
Point and Print Restrictions | Security Prompts

On 17 September 2010 08:01, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 It's the GPO that allows Vista and above to automatically install the
 drivers when they are not present. Otherwise it hangs at the GPO
 application.

 I've just changed jobs so can't dig out the exact GPO setting, sorry!


 On 16 September 2010 16:01, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu
  wrote:

  +1, works well for us here too, but we target the computer ou + the user
 group in combo.  James—can you clarify what you mean on the Point and print
 restrictions?  I don’t think we have that set and I’m wondering what the
 issue is/was.



 For XP machines, make sure you have the latest GPP preferences update
 applied for this all to work.



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:15 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Deploying Printers via GPO



 Use loopback policy processing on your computers OU, deploy the Group
 Policy Preferences printers list as a user config applied to the computers
 OU, set the default printer through that, and target it to the required
 users.

 Make sure you set the GPO with the point-and-print restrictions as well,
 so it doesn't hang when popping up the box to install the driver if there
 isn't a suitable one installed.

 On 15 September 2010 18:02, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote:

 Good afternoon all,

 Currently in a 08 domain with all XP workstations SP3 and
 GPO extensions installed.  I need to deploy printers based on the machine
 and not the user.  I see I can deploy printers to computers through a GPO,
 BUT you can’t set the default printer that way.  It looks like I can deploy
 the printers to the user, then use ‘item-level targeting’ so it applies only
 when users logon to computers in certain OU’s.   Is there a better way to
 skin this cat?



 Should I make a printer policy per OU, or make 1 global one with all the
 printers and assign them with the item-level targeting?



 Thanks all!!



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RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Paul Hutchings
It won't let me create that policy - the GUI just comes up with a
cryptic message peer to_siteA have vpn with tunnel interface binding,
vpn invalid or not exist?!

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 12:58
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

OK, apologies, coffee just kicking in here,  quite a few hours earlier
than where you are.

 

Possibly a better method using the Juniper policies.

 

In your  Trust to Untrust, or Trust to Global  policies

Create an ANY-ANY-ANY-TUNNEL ( Source Destination Service Action ) using
the tunnel created between sites.

For any device on the remote subnet that needs direct access, create a
policy with ANY-ANY-ANY-Permit  and place it above this
any-any-any-tunnel rule 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I'm testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a
route based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in
Site B any traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to
the Internet via our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I'm struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of
course the router to the ISP.

 

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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread James Kerr
Ok, thanks for the heads-up guys. I will look for another one.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Roger Wright 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 5:01 PM
  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


  Ditto!  Every Belkin KVM I've every used was difficult to work with.  
Avocents, however, have been perfect.  


  Roger Wright
  ___

  When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't 
nothin' like it!





  On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:


I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that 
who makes OmniView?)


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
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-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
you must have thought I was referring to the Trendnet which you had
mentioned See below). I did find an OmniView that can be upgraded to IP if
you want to later and it will do USB and isn't too expensive. Thanks for the
input as always guys.

James



- Original Message -
From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation



That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812146018



--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: James Kerr
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Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation



 Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!



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 From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:29 AM
 Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


 Correct, but they were inexpensive as well. We've noticed most other KVMs
 did not include the cables, either.


 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District


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 Sent: Wed, 15 Sep 2010
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 Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


  I take it it doesn't come with the cables based on the fact that it
  isn't
  mentioned as coming with any when I checked it out at CDW.
- Original Message -
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:25 PM
Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
 
 
No, those 16 ports connect to proprietary dongles via CAT5e/CAT6. The
  dongles plug into the USB/PS2 ports.
 
 
 
It is a nice unit. If I'm serious about KVM, I would either go with
  Raritan or Avocent, which someone else mentioned a little bit ago. It
  depends on what your needs (and possibly budget) are as to which one you
  should go with. I honestly don't remember what the differences are now,
  but
  at the time I made the decision, Raritan was a better choice for us.
 
 
 
One cool thing is that you can mount a local drive over the IP
  connection,
  so as long as your connection is fast enough, you potentially would
  never
  have to visit the server, even to do a bare-metal rebuild/restore.
 
 
 
Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com
 
 
 
 
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From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
 
 
 
You know, I've never messed around with KVM over IP. That looks like a
  nice unit. I assume those 16 ports connect to the ILO ports on the
  servers?
 
 
 
James
 
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  From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 
  To: NT System Admin Issues
 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:54 AM
 
  Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
 
 
 
  We've got the 16 port version of this one, 

RE: ESXi box failing to start

2010-09-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
I actually suspect that the disc logical volume mgr.

 

I'd bet failing/corrupted drives that actually hold the ESXi system
files.

 

-sc

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ESXi box failing to start

 

I've got an ESXi box failing to start that stops with an error of
failed to load lvmdriver. All my Google-fu points to an incompatible
network card, but it was working fine until a few days ago. I've tried
starting it with the NICs disabled, but it makes no difference
whatsoever. Does anyone have any ideas what might be causing it?

TIA,



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Stupid BES 5.0 question

2010-09-17 Thread Jonathan Link
I can't seem to find this in the docs or with Google-Fu.  I've been
struggling with this for a day or so...
How do I allow users to install/buy apps from AppWorld?

OB: I hate RIM.

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Re: RE: Switch opinions

2010-09-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
 How is this not relevant?  If HP truly makes a “better” switch for the
 money, and their support is better… then why aren’t they the market leader?

 This is a flawed argument. See: “McDonalds hamburger sales vs. quality”.

  McDonald's hamburgers are web scale.

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RE: Stupid BES 5.0 question

2010-09-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
 OB: I hate RIM.

 

Welcome to the club.

 

-sc

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Stupid BES 5.0 question

 

I can't seem to find this in the docs or with Google-Fu.  I've been
struggling with this for a day or so...

How do I allow users to install/buy apps from AppWorld?

 

OB: I hate RIM.

 

-Jonathan

 

 

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RE: RE: Switch opinions

2010-09-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
It may be time to make a Cisco vs. HP animated movie...

-sc

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 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions
 
 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
 wrote:
  How is this not relevant?  If HP truly makes a better switch for
  the money, and their support is better... then why aren't they the market
 leader?
 
  This is a flawed argument. See: McDonalds hamburger sales vs. quality.
 
   McDonald's hamburgers are web scale.
 
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Re: RE: Switch opinions

2010-09-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
 How is this not relevant?  If HP truly makes a “better” switch for the
 money, and their support is better… then why aren’t they the market leader?

 This is a flawed argument. See: “McDonalds hamburger sales vs. quality”.

  McDonald's hamburgers are web scale.

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Re: RE: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Jonathan Link
What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A
 little.

 -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker

 Sent from my Motorola Droid

  On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com
 wrote:
 I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that
 who makes OmniView?)


 Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
 Technology Coordinator
 Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
 jra...@e...

  -Original Message-
 From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]

 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

  My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
 you must have thought I wa...

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 From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org
 To: NT System Admin...

  Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
 Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

  That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

  --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District


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 Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

  Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
 
 

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Re: RE: Switch opinions

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
LOL

*ASB*
* *
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
 wrote:
  How is this not relevant?  If HP truly makes a “better” switch for the
  money, and their support is better… then why aren’t they the market
 leader?
 
  This is a flawed argument. See: “McDonalds hamburger sales vs. quality”.

   McDonald's hamburgers are web scale.

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RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
But otherwise the VPN tunnel works to access the main site from the remote
site ???

How is the original VPN rule setup ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

It won’t let me create that policy – the GUI just comes up with a cryptic
message “peer to_siteA have vpn with tunnel interface binding, vpn invalid
or not exist”?!

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 12:58
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

OK, apologies, coffee just kicking in here,  quite a few hours earlier than
where you are.

 

Possibly a better method using the Juniper policies.

 

In your  Trust to Untrust, or Trust to Global  policies

Create an ANY-ANY-ANY-TUNNEL ( Source Destination Service Action ) using the
tunnel created between sites.

For any device on the remote subnet that needs direct access, create a
policy with ANY-ANY-ANY-Permit  and place it above this any-any-any-tunnel
rule 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I’m testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a route
based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in Site B any
traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to the Internet via
our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I’m struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of course
the router to the ISP.

 

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RE: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than 3 or 
4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the area of 
KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open to evidence 
supporting the contrary.  :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please excuse 
brevity  any misspellings.

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From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A little.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker

Sent from my Motorola Droid

On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that who 
makes OmniView?)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@e...

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From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
you must have thought I wa...

- Original Message -
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mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org
To: NT System Admin...

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010

11:31:45 -0700
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


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RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Paul Hutchings
In Juniper terms it's setup as a route based VPN exactly as per Chapter
4 of the VPN PDF for ScreenOS 6.3.

 

The other end isn't a Juniper, but I don't think that's the issue.

 

On the Juniper if I put a default deny rule at the bottom of the policy
list, with logging, I can see that internet requests are trying to go
out via the Junipers default gateway rather than through the tunnel.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 14:12
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

But otherwise the VPN tunnel works to access the main site from the
remote site ???

How is the original VPN rule setup ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

It won't let me create that policy - the GUI just comes up with a
cryptic message peer to_siteA have vpn with tunnel interface binding,
vpn invalid or not exist?!

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 12:58
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

OK, apologies, coffee just kicking in here,  quite a few hours earlier
than where you are.

 

Possibly a better method using the Juniper policies.

 

In your  Trust to Untrust, or Trust to Global  policies

Create an ANY-ANY-ANY-TUNNEL ( Source Destination Service Action ) using
the tunnel created between sites.

For any device on the remote subnet that needs direct access, create a
policy with ANY-ANY-ANY-Permit  and place it above this
any-any-any-tunnel rule 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I'm testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a
route based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in
Site B any traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to
the Internet via our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I'm struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of
course the router to the ISP.

 

Thanks.



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RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
I apologize for not knowing the 6.x version documentation, I’ve been stuck
on the NS-5GT devices with most of my clients and the latest there is 5.3 I
think.

What happens if you attempt to set up a route based vpn for the route
0.0.0.0 just like for the 10.60.1.0 route to the main office ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

In Juniper terms it’s setup as a route based VPN exactly as per Chapter 4 of
the VPN PDF for ScreenOS 6.3.

 

The other end isn’t a Juniper, but I don’t think that’s the issue.

 

On the Juniper if I put a default deny rule at the bottom of the policy
list, with logging, I can see that internet requests are trying to go out
via the Junipers default gateway rather than through the tunnel.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 14:12
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

But otherwise the VPN tunnel works to access the main site from the remote
site ???

How is the original VPN rule setup ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

It won’t let me create that policy – the GUI just comes up with a cryptic
message “peer to_siteA have vpn with tunnel interface binding, vpn invalid
or not exist”?!

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 12:58
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

OK, apologies, coffee just kicking in here,  quite a few hours earlier than
where you are.

 

Possibly a better method using the Juniper policies.

 

In your  Trust to Untrust, or Trust to Global  policies

Create an ANY-ANY-ANY-TUNNEL ( Source Destination Service Action ) using the
tunnel created between sites.

For any device on the remote subnet that needs direct access, create a
policy with ANY-ANY-ANY-Permit  and place it above this any-any-any-tunnel
rule 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I’m testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a route
based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in Site B any
traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to the Internet via
our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I’m struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of course
the router to the ISP.

 

Thanks.

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RE: ESXi box failing to start

2010-09-17 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Known behavior from experience and vmware community posts.

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To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ESXi box failing to start


Out of curiosity, why does a logical volume manager problem make you think 
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RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
Are you at the remote 192.168.x.x site ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I’m assuming it won’t work because of the metrics?

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 14:25
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I apologize for not knowing the 6.x version documentation, I’ve been stuck
on the NS-5GT devices with most of my clients and the latest there is 5.3 I
think.

What happens if you attempt to set up a route based vpn for the route
0.0.0.0 just like for the 10.60.1.0 route to the main office ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

In Juniper terms it’s setup as a route based VPN exactly as per Chapter 4 of
the VPN PDF for ScreenOS 6.3.

 

The other end isn’t a Juniper, but I don’t think that’s the issue.

 

On the Juniper if I put a default deny rule at the bottom of the policy
list, with logging, I can see that internet requests are trying to go out
via the Junipers default gateway rather than through the tunnel.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 14:12
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

But otherwise the VPN tunnel works to access the main site from the remote
site ???

How is the original VPN rule setup ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

It won’t let me create that policy – the GUI just comes up with a cryptic
message “peer to_siteA have vpn with tunnel interface binding, vpn invalid
or not exist”?!

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 12:58
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

OK, apologies, coffee just kicking in here,  quite a few hours earlier than
where you are.

 

Possibly a better method using the Juniper policies.

 

In your  Trust to Untrust, or Trust to Global  policies

Create an ANY-ANY-ANY-TUNNEL ( Source Destination Service Action ) using the
tunnel created between sites.

For any device on the remote subnet that needs direct access, create a
policy with ANY-ANY-ANY-Permit  and place it above this any-any-any-tunnel
rule 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I’m testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a route
based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in Site B any
traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to the Internet via
our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I’m struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of course
the router to the ISP.

 

Thanks.

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RE: Assistance with eMail footers

2010-09-17 Thread Gasper, Rick
I'll vouch for Mr. Hampshire.  He was a professional musician before his band 
broke up and he had to take an IT job.   He is like a puppy, he wants to be 
petted by everyone and doesn't want anyone to know he peed on the floor.

He was so grateful to get this job, he promised things that no five people 
could deliver.



From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 7:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Assistance with eMail footers

I'm deeply, deeply hurt by your manufactured lies and half truths. Why would 
you falsely accuse me of such a terrible thing? I have many highly respected 
personal references, among them Martin Blackstone, Max Tork, and Amit Hanji.
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Crawford, Scott 
crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote:
Are you guys seriously still falling for this obvious troll?

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:56 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Assistance with eMail footers

I think you will find they are trying to help you say No this is a very bad 
idea to the bosses.  As at least one pointed out some companies will block or 
kill your emails as JUNK or SPAM when it comes in.  Others are pointing out 
that putting that stuff into email will require specific codecs or player to 
run.  Keep in mind by the end of the day like you their nerves are stretched to 
the breaking point due to ID10T issues caused but people much like your boss is 
trying to be.  Putting that kind of stuff into a footer will eat up disk space 
on the mail server and/or client machines and I could forsee most of it getting 
deleted very quickly for that reason only.

Jon
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Doug Hampshire 
dhampsh...@gmail.commailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote:
Why have you all hijacked my thread? I was seeking some actual help with this. 
We are a company focused primarily on Merger and Acquisition activities and the 
owner wants to include a video (I recommended Flash but he insists it work on 
an iPad/iPhone) of the Viking Kittens. He thinks it portrays our core values 
somehow. I really need to find other gainful employment.
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:10 AM, William J. Robbins 
dangerw...@gmail.commailto:dangerw...@gmail.com wrote:
Wait until the Captain hears about this!

WJR
- from my Crackberry.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.


From: Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:09:05 -0500
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: Assistance with eMail footers

I think the Enterprise was retired after the The Next Generation started
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:07 AM, William J. Robbins 
dangerw...@gmail.commailto:dangerw...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh...my bad. I assumed he had the Enterprise kit.

WJR
- from my Crackberry.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.


From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:03:57 -0400
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: Assistance with eMail footers

If you don't have the flux capacitor, you don't need as much.  IIRC, that 
option isn't available to most powershell developers.
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:01 AM, William J. Robbins 
dangerw...@gmail.commailto:dangerw...@gmail.com wrote:
Depends on the size of your shell, and how many ohms your power supply produces 
in gigawatts. I think you'll need 1.21.

WJR
- from my Crackberry.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.


From: Don Ely don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 07:43:26 -0700
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: Assistance with eMail footers

How much power does powerscript require?
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Gasper, Rick 
rickgas...@kings.edumailto:rickgas...@kings.edu wrote:
With Enterprise you can use a powerscript to add it to the outbound smtp 
connector. With standard, you would need to script it to add it to the email 
client. Both are simple and will accomplish the same thing.

From: William J. Robbins 
[mailto:dangerw...@gmail.commailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:22 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Assistance with eMail 

PS 4.0 Anonymous User Can't Set Default Printer

2010-09-17 Thread Kelsey, John
Citrix issue here driving me batty.  Metaframe PS 4.0.  I have a
published application (just an IE URL) anonymously.  Then I defined a
printer policy in the Metaframe console, adding 2 printers and making
one the default.  When the user launches the app, they get both
printers, however neither one is set to the default.  Is there some
special permissions the anonymous user needs to set the default printer?
I did have to enable guest access on the print server in order for them
to be able to even add the printer.   Am I missing something else?

 

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RE: Stupid BES 5.0 question

2010-09-17 Thread Maglinger, Paul
I hate iPhones, iPads, i*...

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Stupid BES 5.0 question

 

I can't seem to find this in the docs or with Google-Fu.  I've been
struggling with this for a day or so...

How do I allow users to install/buy apps from AppWorld?

 

OB: I hate RIM.

 

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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay for.
 Across classes, as opposed to within the class.

That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different enough from
the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is correct.

However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- within
the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is possible for cost
alone to be insufficient as a determinant of quality or value.

I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the very lowest
end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a few others play in that
consumer/SOHO space, and within that space price is not always the
differentiator.

While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, years ago,
Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of better quality.  But
they were in the same enterprise level class... :)

And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

 LOL, +1

 Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than
 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the
 area of KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open
 to evidence supporting the contrary.  :-)

 Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

 Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please
 excuse brevity  any misspellings.

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 From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
 Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
 mailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A
 little.

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 Sent from my Motorola Droid

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 mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
 I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that
 who makes OmniView?)

 Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
 Technology Coordinator
 Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
 jra...@e...

 -Original Message-
 From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com
 ]

 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

 My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
 you must have thought I wa...

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 From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:
 mr...@ephrataschools.org
 To: NT System Admin...

 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
 Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


 That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District


 - Original Message -
 From: James Kerr
 [mailto:clusterp.mailto:clusterp...

 Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010

 11:31:45 -0700
 Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


  Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
 
 

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 mr...@ephrataschools.org
  To: NT System...

 
 
  
   Any medic...



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Re: RE: Switch opinions

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
ROFL!  I can see it now.

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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote:

 It may be time to make a Cisco vs. HP animated movie...

 -sc

  -Original Message-
  From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:55 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions
 
  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
 
  wrote:
   How is this not relevant?  If HP truly makes a better switch for
   the money, and their support is better... then why aren't they the
 market
  leader?
  
   This is a flawed argument. See: McDonalds hamburger sales vs.
 quality.
 
McDonald's hamburgers are web scale.
 
  -- Ben
 


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RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Paul Hutchings
the site is on my desk as for testing I'm using a firewall in our DMZ
for the remote site, so the external NICs on each firewall are on the
same switch/subnet.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 14:51
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

Are you at the remote 192.168.x.x site ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I'm assuming it won't work because of the metrics?

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 14:25
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I apologize for not knowing the 6.x version documentation, I've been
stuck on the NS-5GT devices with most of my clients and the latest there
is 5.3 I think.

What happens if you attempt to set up a route based vpn for the route
0.0.0.0 just like for the 10.60.1.0 route to the main office ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

In Juniper terms it's setup as a route based VPN exactly as per Chapter
4 of the VPN PDF for ScreenOS 6.3.

 

The other end isn't a Juniper, but I don't think that's the issue.

 

On the Juniper if I put a default deny rule at the bottom of the policy
list, with logging, I can see that internet requests are trying to go
out via the Junipers default gateway rather than through the tunnel.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 14:12
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

But otherwise the VPN tunnel works to access the main site from the
remote site ???

How is the original VPN rule setup ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

It won't let me create that policy - the GUI just comes up with a
cryptic message peer to_siteA have vpn with tunnel interface binding,
vpn invalid or not exist?!

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 12:58
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

OK, apologies, coffee just kicking in here,  quite a few hours earlier
than where you are.

 

Possibly a better method using the Juniper policies.

 

In your  Trust to Untrust, or Trust to Global  policies

Create an ANY-ANY-ANY-TUNNEL ( Source Destination Service Action ) using
the tunnel created between sites.

For any device on the remote subnet that needs direct access, create a
policy with ANY-ANY-ANY-Permit  and place it above this
any-any-any-tunnel rule 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I'm testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a
route based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in
Site B any traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to
the Internet via our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I'm struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of
course the router to the ISP.

 

Thanks.



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RE: Deploying Printers via GPO

2010-09-17 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
Interesting-I don't think I've heard of any hangs like that, but I will go 
check that setting as we don't have a widespread deployment yet (but it's 
coming soon!).  Thanks!

-B

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO

it's in User Configuration | Admin Templates | Control Panel | Printers | Point 
and Print Restrictions | Security Prompts
On 17 September 2010 08:01, James Rankin 
kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
It's the GPO that allows Vista and above to automatically install the drivers 
when they are not present. Otherwise it hangs at the GPO application.

I've just changed jobs so can't dig out the exact GPO setting, sorry!

On 16 September 2010 16:01, Miller Bonnie L. 
mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edumailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote:
+1, works well for us here too, but we target the computer ou + the user group 
in combo.  James-can you clarify what you mean on the Point and print 
restrictions?  I don't think we have that set and I'm wondering what the issue 
is/was.

For XP machines, make sure you have the latest GPP preferences update applied 
for this all to work.

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:15 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO

Use loopback policy processing on your computers OU, deploy the Group Policy 
Preferences printers list as a user config applied to the computers OU, set the 
default printer through that, and target it to the required users.

Make sure you set the GPO with the point-and-print restrictions as well, so it 
doesn't hang when popping up the box to install the driver if there isn't a 
suitable one installed.
On 15 September 2010 18:02, Kelsey, John 
jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org wrote:
Good afternoon all,
Currently in a 08 domain with all XP workstations SP3 and GPO 
extensions installed.  I need to deploy printers based on the machine and not 
the user.  I see I can deploy printers to computers through a GPO, BUT you 
can't set the default printer that way.  It looks like I can deploy the 
printers to the user, then use 'item-level targeting' so it applies only when 
users logon to computers in certain OU's.   Is there a better way to skin this 
cat?

Should I make a printer policy per OU, or make 1 global one with all the 
printers and assign them with the item-level targeting?

Thanks all!!

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RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
OK, just making sure you had local access to the Juniper … I’d suggest to
actually try the route based VPN on 0.0.0.0 rather than assume the metric
would mess it up.

I’ll still be here if you try and it fails, you can say you told me so, but
IMNSHO it’s at least worth a try.

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

the “site” is on my desk as for testing I’m using a firewall in our DMZ for
the remote site, so the external NICs on each firewall are on the same
switch/subnet.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 14:51
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

Are you at the remote 192.168.x.x site ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I’m assuming it won’t work because of the metrics?

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 14:25
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I apologize for not knowing the 6.x version documentation, I’ve been stuck
on the NS-5GT devices with most of my clients and the latest there is 5.3 I
think.

What happens if you attempt to set up a route based vpn for the route
0.0.0.0 just like for the 10.60.1.0 route to the main office ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

In Juniper terms it’s setup as a route based VPN exactly as per Chapter 4 of
the VPN PDF for ScreenOS 6.3.

 

The other end isn’t a Juniper, but I don’t think that’s the issue.

 

On the Juniper if I put a default deny rule at the bottom of the policy
list, with logging, I can see that internet requests are trying to go out
via the Junipers default gateway rather than through the tunnel.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 14:12
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

But otherwise the VPN tunnel works to access the main site from the remote
site ???

How is the original VPN rule setup ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

It won’t let me create that policy – the GUI just comes up with a cryptic
message “peer to_siteA have vpn with tunnel interface binding, vpn invalid
or not exist”?!

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 12:58
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

OK, apologies, coffee just kicking in here,  quite a few hours earlier than
where you are.

 

Possibly a better method using the Juniper policies.

 

In your  Trust to Untrust, or Trust to Global  policies

Create an ANY-ANY-ANY-TUNNEL ( Source Destination Service Action ) using the
tunnel created between sites.

For any device on the remote subnet that needs direct access, create a
policy with ANY-ANY-ANY-Permit  and place it above this any-any-any-tunnel
rule 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I’m testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a route
based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in Site B any
traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to the Internet via
our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I’m struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of course
the router to the ISP.

 

Thanks.

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RE: RE: Switch opinions

2010-09-17 Thread Charlie Kaiser
But can they pipe packets to dev null?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:21 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions
 
 Cisco switches are web scale...
 
 -Jeff
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 
   ROFL!  I can see it now.
 
   ASB
 
 
   On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Steven M. Caesare
scaes...@caesare.com
 wrote:
 
 
   It may be time to make a Cisco vs. HP animated movie...
 
   -sc
 
 
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To: NT System Admin Issues
 
Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions
   
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 scaes...@caesare.com
wrote:
 How is this not relevant?  If HP truly makes a better
switch for
 the money, and their support is better... then why
aren't they the
 market
leader?

 This is a flawed argument. See: McDonalds hamburger
sales vs. quality.
   
  McDonald's hamburgers are web scale.
 
   
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Re: RE: Switch opinions

2010-09-17 Thread Jonathan Link
Careful, that sounds like routing to me.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.orgwrote:

 But can they pipe packets to dev null?

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  -Original Message-
  From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:21 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions
 
  Cisco switches are web scale...
 
  -Jeff
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
ROFL!  I can see it now.
 
ASB
 
 
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 scaes...@caesare.com
  wrote:
 
 
It may be time to make a Cisco vs. HP animated movie...
 
-sc
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:55 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 
 Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Steven M. Caesare
  scaes...@caesare.com
 wrote:
  How is this not relevant?  If HP truly makes a
 better
 switch for
  the money, and their support is better... then why
 aren't they the
  market
 leader?
 
  This is a flawed argument. See: McDonalds hamburger
 sales vs. quality.

   McDonald's hamburgers are web scale.
 

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RE: RE: Switch opinions

2010-09-17 Thread Kelsey, John
You guys have WAY too much time on your hands J

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions

 

Careful, that sounds like routing to me.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org wrote:

But can they pipe packets to dev null?

***
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charl...@golden-eagle.org
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 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:21 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions

 Cisco switches are web scale...

 -Jeff


 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
wrote:


   ROFL!  I can see it now.

   ASB


   On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Steven M. Caesare
scaes...@caesare.com
 wrote:


   It may be time to make a Cisco vs. HP animated movie...

   -sc


-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions
   
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 scaes...@caesare.com
wrote:
 How is this not relevant?  If HP truly makes a
better
switch for
 the money, and their support is better... then why
aren't they the
 market
leader?

 This is a flawed argument. See: McDonalds hamburger
sales vs. quality.
   
  McDonald's hamburgers are web scale.

   
-- Ben
   


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RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

2010-09-17 Thread Paul Hutchings
Fair point, so I added a route for 0.0.0.0/0 to use tunnel.1 but it
didn't work, the logging on the deny all rule shows the requests for
0.0.0.0 are still going out (or trying to) via the SSG directly.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 15:23
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

OK, just making sure you had local access to the Juniper ... I'd suggest
to actually try the route based VPN on 0.0.0.0 rather than assume the
metric would mess it up.

I'll still be here if you try and it fails, you can say you told me so,
but IMNSHO it's at least worth a try.

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

the site is on my desk as for testing I'm using a firewall in our DMZ
for the remote site, so the external NICs on each firewall are on the
same switch/subnet.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 14:51
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

Are you at the remote 192.168.x.x site ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I'm assuming it won't work because of the metrics?

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 14:25
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I apologize for not knowing the 6.x version documentation, I've been
stuck on the NS-5GT devices with most of my clients and the latest there
is 5.3 I think.

What happens if you attempt to set up a route based vpn for the route
0.0.0.0 just like for the 10.60.1.0 route to the main office ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

In Juniper terms it's setup as a route based VPN exactly as per Chapter
4 of the VPN PDF for ScreenOS 6.3.

 

The other end isn't a Juniper, but I don't think that's the issue.

 

On the Juniper if I put a default deny rule at the bottom of the policy
list, with logging, I can see that internet requests are trying to go
out via the Junipers default gateway rather than through the tunnel.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 14:12
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

But otherwise the VPN tunnel works to access the main site from the
remote site ???

How is the original VPN rule setup ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

It won't let me create that policy - the GUI just comes up with a
cryptic message peer to_siteA have vpn with tunnel interface binding,
vpn invalid or not exist?!

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 September 2010 12:58
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

OK, apologies, coffee just kicking in here,  quite a few hours earlier
than where you are.

 

Possibly a better method using the Juniper policies.

 

In your  Trust to Untrust, or Trust to Global  policies

Create an ANY-ANY-ANY-TUNNEL ( Source Destination Service Action ) using
the tunnel created between sites.

For any device on the remote subnet that needs direct access, create a
policy with ANY-ANY-ANY-Permit  and place it above this
any-any-any-tunnel rule 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Juniper VPN Tunnel Query

 

I'm testing a VPN tunnel between what will be two sites.

 

I have the tunnel working just fine between Site A and Site B using a
route based VPN, however what I want to do is configure it so that in
Site B any traffic for 0.0.0.0 goes over the tunnel so it goes out to
the Internet via our main firewall/internet connection.

 

I'm struggling a little on how to configure the Juniper (an SSG running
ScreenOS 6.3.x) to do this as its default gateway for 0.0.0.0 is of
course the router to the ISP.

 

Thanks.



MIRA Ltd

 

Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 

Re: RE: Switch opinions

2010-09-17 Thread Jonathan Link
Says the guy responding to a nonesense post... :-)

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote:

  You guys have WAY too much time on your hands J



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 *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:30 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: RE: Switch opinions



 Careful, that sounds like routing to me.

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Charlie Kaiser 
 charl...@golden-eagle.org wrote:

 But can they pipe packets to dev null?

 ***
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 charl...@golden-eagle.org
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  -Original Message-
  From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:21 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions
 
  Cisco switches are web scale...
 
  -Jeff
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
ROFL!  I can see it now.
 
ASB
 
 
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 scaes...@caesare.com
  wrote:
 
 
It may be time to make a Cisco vs. HP animated movie...
 
-sc
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:55 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 
 Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Steven M. Caesare
  scaes...@caesare.com
 wrote:
  How is this not relevant?  If HP truly makes a
 better
 switch for
  the money, and their support is better... then why
 aren't they the
  market
 leader?
 
  This is a flawed argument. See: McDonalds hamburger
 sales vs. quality.

   McDonald's hamburgers are web scale.
 

 -- Ben

 
 
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RE: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

2010-09-17 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
I bought a new W7 Pro laptop at home a while back, getting pro mainly for the 
XP mode.  I used disk2vhd to create a vhd file from my old XP laptop (that I've 
wiped), copied it over, and thought I could replace the default .vhd in XP 
mode.  But, after it just wouldn't work, some googling seemed to indicate that 
there is something special about the basic XP-mode freshly installed .vhd 
provided via the download, and that you HAVE to start clean from that, for 
anything you want to run or deploy-hence the licensing/activation issues.  I 
also read something that you are only legal to run the clean-installed vhd as 
the free copy of XP, anything else and you have to license.

So, in my case, I found that most of the apps I wanted to run didn't come thru 
well anyway (games, video driver in XP mode is not that great), so even though 
I reinstalled some stuff, I don't really use it that much.  I did end up 
mounting the .vhd file of my old computer in my W7 OS to access as a nice way 
to get to my old files though-that is a very cool new feature of W7 and R2.

If you do come up with a legal way to do it though, please share!

-Bonnie

From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

The magic I am looking for is not being asked for activation of Windows!

GuidoElia
HELPPC



Da: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Inviato: giovedì 16 settembre 2010 20.20
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode
It's just a vhd. You back up the vhd and you restore the vhd. Nothing magic 
there...

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode



And get license working without asking for activation ?
Or Xp Mode in Win7 is intended only for fresh install ?

TIA

GuidoElia
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RE: #*$% Security Tools Malware

2010-09-17 Thread Phillip Partipilo
Yes, I use DynDNS as well. There are many others, but I use them mostly because 
IP updates are supported in DD-WRT firmware.  I pay for the service just so I 
don't need to re-up every month manually, its like 10 bucks a year, that's all 
of two drinks at the bar, no biggie.



Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107



-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: #*$% Security Tools Malware

Yep. I also use DynDNS, but only their free service. Really nice to be able
to remote into my machine at home, on a random DSL IP address. :-)


Thanks,
John Aldrich
IT Manager,
Blueridge Carpet
706-276-2001, Ext. 2233






From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: #*$% Security Tools Malware

I use DynDNS, but not for that service.   Generally, I've been happy with
their overall service for over 7 years now.   Probably not a bad deal.

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On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.org
wrote:
Along these lines, does anyone have experience with or have an opinion on a
similar product from dyndns.com

http://www.dyndns.com/services/dynguide/

The premium service is only $20 per year, and they seem to use Barracuda for
their content and site blocking.  Not a lot of detail on their web site.



From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 12:40 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: #*$% Security Tools Malware

OpenDNS also offers FamilyShield:  https://www.opendns.com/familyshield

Not quite a comprehensive as their standard product, but more security
features.  Of course, I expect ClearCloud to be better against more malware.

OpenDNS does block *some* malware sites, except in the BASIC service.  (I'm
subscribed to the $9.95/yr plan)

Anyway, I've put in a request for them to use external malware feeds and
allow purchasing/obtaining the malware function across all subscription
levels.

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On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Alex Eckelberry
al...@sunbelt-software.com wrote:
OpenDNS is a Cadillac Escalade, ClearCloud DNS is a Porsche.

Ok, that's the hyperbole.  But it's apt.

I like OpenDNS.  I have used the service, and we are very good friends with
the principals over there.

But OpenDNS is a very sophisticated system that includes content filtering.
ClearCloud is just focused on malware sites.

OpenDNS does not block malware sites, instead requiring an additional fee:

https://www.opendns.com/start/

Users of both products who have been testing it indicate that they prefer
ClearCloud because:
-  It is very simple - just enter the IP number and go.  Unlike
OpenDNS, we don't care where you IP originated from (for configuration
management), so we don't have to worry about updating dynamic DNS, etc.
-  It's quite a bit faster.  OpenDNS does a lot of incredible
things, but these come at a performance cost.
OpenDNS is a company setup to make money on DNS. We aren't.  For us, the DNS
portion of ClearCloud is only one part of the equation.  ClearCloud is
actually the DNS infrastructure which will provide a major part of our
future cloud-services model.  So it pops off the work we're already doing.
That's not to say we won't try and figure out a way to make some money off
of it at some point (maybe by charging business a small fee for it at some
point in the future), but it's not our primary focus.

But simply: If you're not worried about content filtering (which has its
limitations anyway in DNS, since you can only block a domain, not a full
URL), then ClearCloud is better. If you want content filtering, use OpenDNS.


Alex


From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:24 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: #*$% Security Tools Malware

OpenDNS provides similar benefits...

ASB (My XeeSM Profile)
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On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:27 AM, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
Trying it now. Love the concept-let's see if it helps.  :)



From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:58 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: #*$% Security Tools Malware

Btw, we update the malware URLs of these rogues right into ClearCloud.

Feel free to and the ClearCloud DNS server as a replacement to your existing
DNS:

http://clearclouddns.com/

It's still beta, but I think you'll find it works quite well.  And it's
free.


Alex



From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:55 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: #*$% 

R: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

2010-09-17 Thread HELP_PC
Found the way!
I bought an XP upgrade retail and I will get MS to validate the new 
PK.(Otherwise I'll do a repair install on the top)
At the end I didn't use XP mode and Virtual PC but Storagecraft to image and 
the free Virtual Box that works great in Windows 7
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

  _  

Da: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] 
Inviato: venerdì 17 settembre 2010 16.51
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode



I bought a new W7 Pro laptop at home a while back, getting pro mainly for the 
XP mode.  I used disk2vhd to create a vhd file from my old XP laptop (that I've 
wiped), copied it over, and thought I could replace the default .vhd in XP 
mode.  But, after it just wouldn't work, some googling seemed to indicate that 
there is something special about the basic XP-mode freshly installed .vhd 
provided via the download, and that you HAVE to start clean from that, for 
anything you want to run or deploy-hence the licensing/activation issues.  I 
also read something that you are only legal to run the clean-installed vhd as 
the free copy of XP, anything else and you have to license.

 

So, in my case, I found that most of the apps I wanted to run didn't come thru 
well anyway (games, video driver in XP mode is not that great), so even though 
I reinstalled some stuff, I don't really use it that much.  I did end up 
mounting the .vhd file of my old computer in my W7 OS to access as a nice way 
to get to my old files though-that is a very cool new feature of W7 and R2.

 

If you do come up with a legal way to do it though, please share!

 

-Bonnie

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

 

The magic I am looking for is not being asked for activation of Windows!

 

GuidoElia

HELPPC

 

 

  _  

Da: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Inviato: giovedì 16 settembre 2010 20.20
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

It's just a vhd. You back up the vhd and you restore the vhd. Nothing magic 
there...

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

 

 

And get license working without asking for activation ? 
Or Xp Mode in Win7 is intended only for fresh install ? 

TIA 

GuidoElia 
HELPPC 

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RE: RE: Switch opinions

2010-09-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Plug one end of your Ethernet cable in to the switch.

Shove the other end in your /dev/nul orifice.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:24 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: RE: Switch opinions
 
 But can they pipe packets to dev null?
 
 ***
 Charlie Kaiser
 charl...@golden-eagle.org
 Kingman, AZ
 ***
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:21 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions
 
  Cisco switches are web scale...
 
  -Jeff
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Andrew S. Baker
asbz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
  ROFL!  I can see it now.
 
  ASB
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 scaes...@caesare.com
  wrote:
 
 
  It may be time to make a Cisco vs. HP animated movie...
 
  -sc
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 
   Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:55 AM
   To: NT System Admin Issues
 
   Subject: Re: RE: Switch opinions
  
   On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Steven M. Caesare
  scaes...@caesare.com
   wrote:
How is this not relevant?  If HP truly makes a
better
 switch for
the money, and their support is better... then why
 aren't they the
  market
   leader?
   
This is a flawed argument. See: McDonalds hamburger
 sales vs. quality.
  
 McDonald's hamburgers are web scale.
 
  
   -- Ben
  
 
 
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RE: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to Avovent/Raritan. You hit 
the nail on the head by detailing what I was trying to convey in my very brief 
post. Someone saying, I just need a KVM, why can't I buy [insert dirt cheap 
option here]? Why do I need to spend $x,000? Well for some applications, it 
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said device and how 
much frustration you're willing to live with.

On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/


From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay for.  Across 
classes, as opposed to within the class.

That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different enough from the 
ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is correct.

However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- within the 
tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is possible for cost alone to be 
insufficient as a determinant of quality or value.

I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the very lowest end 
of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a few others play in that 
consumer/SOHO space, and within that space price is not always the 
differentiator.

While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, years ago, 
Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of better quality.  But they 
were in the same enterprise level class... :)
And I still greatly prefer Avocent.


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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than 3 or 
4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the area of 
KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open to evidence 
supporting the contrary.  :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please excuse 
brevity  any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com
 wrote:

Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A little.
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Sent from my Motorola Droid
On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com
 wrote:
I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that who 
makes OmniView?)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@e...

-Original Message-
From: James Kerr 
[mailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
you must have thought I wa...

- Original Message -
From: Matthew W. Ross 
mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org
To: NT System Admin...

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: James Kerr
[mailto:clusterpmailto:clusterp.mailto:clusterpmailto:clusterp...

Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010

11:31:45 -0700
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


 Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!



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 From: Matthew W. Ross 
 mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org
 To: NT System...

 
 
  Any medic...

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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Jonathan Link
You haven't been following the Switch opinions thread?

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

  Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to Avovent/Raritan. You
 hit the nail on the head by detailing what I was trying to convey in my very
 brief post. Someone saying, “I just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt
 cheap option here]? Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some
 applications, it might be fine, but it all depends on the application of
 said device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.



 On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!



 Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
 Technology Coordinator
 Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA*
 *
 jra...@eaglemds.com*
 *www.eaglemds.com

  --

 *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation



 Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay for.
  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.



 That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different enough from
 the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is correct.



 However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- within
 the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is possible for cost
 alone to be insufficient as a determinant of quality or value.



 I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the very lowest
 end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a few others play in that
 consumer/SOHO space, and within that space price is not always the
 differentiator.



 While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, years ago,
 Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of better quality.  But
 they were in the same enterprise level class... :)

 And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



 *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker
 *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
 * *

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
 jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

 LOL, +1

 Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than
 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the
 area of KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open
 to evidence supporting the contrary.  :-)

 Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

 Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please
 excuse brevity  any misspellings.

 - Reply message -
 From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am

 Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
 mailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A
 little.

 -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker
 http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker


 Sent from my Motorola Droid

 On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com
 mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
 I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that
 who makes OmniView?)

 Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
 Technology Coordinator
 Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
 jra...@e...

 -Original Message-

 From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com
 ]

 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

 My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
 you must have thought I wa...

 - Original Message -

 From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:
 mr...@ephrataschools.org
 To: NT System Admin...

 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
 Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


 That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District


 - Original Message -
 From: James Kerr

 [mailto:clusterp.mailto:clusterp...

 Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010

 11:31:45 -0700
 Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


  Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
 
 

  - Original Message -

  From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:
 mr...@ephrataschools.org
  To: NT System...

 
 
  
   Any medic...

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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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RE: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
I never saw anyswitchthread

Oh, the light just came on...

There, that's better...


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

You haven't been following the Switch opinions thread?
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to Avovent/Raritan. You hit 
the nail on the head by detailing what I was trying to convey in my very brief 
post. Someone saying, I just need a KVM, why can't I buy [insert dirt cheap 
option here]? Why do I need to spend $x,000? Well for some applications, it 
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said device and how 
much frustration you're willing to live with.

On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay for.  Across 
classes, as opposed to within the class.

That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different enough from the 
ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is correct.

However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- within the 
tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is possible for cost alone to be 
insufficient as a determinant of quality or value.

I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the very lowest end 
of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a few others play in that 
consumer/SOHO space, and within that space price is not always the 
differentiator.

While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, years ago, 
Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of better quality.  But they 
were in the same enterprise level class... :)
And I still greatly prefer Avocent.


ASB (My XeeSM Profile)http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than 3 or 
4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the area of 
KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open to evidence 
supporting the contrary.  :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please excuse 
brevity  any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com
 wrote:

Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A little.
-ASB: 
http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeesm.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker

Sent from my Motorola Droid
On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com
 wrote:
I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that who 
makes OmniView?)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@e...

-Original Message-
From: James Kerr 
[mailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
you must have thought I wa...

- Original Message -
From: Matthew W. Ross 
mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org
To: NT System Admin...

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: James Kerr
[mailto:clusterpmailto:clusterp.mailto:clusterpmailto:clusterp...

Sent: Thu, 16 

Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
***On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!*

You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special this
week.  Didn't you notice?

*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
*Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
* *
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

  Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to Avovent/Raritan. You
 hit the nail on the head by detailing what I was trying to convey in my very
 brief post. Someone saying, “I just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt
 cheap option here]? Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some
 applications, it might be fine, but it all depends on the application of
 said device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.



 On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!



 Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
 Technology Coordinator
 Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA*
 *
 jra...@eaglemds.com*
 *www.eaglemds.com

   --

 *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation



 Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay for.
  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.



 That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different enough from
 the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is correct.



 However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- within
 the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is possible for cost
 alone to be insufficient as a determinant of quality or value.



 I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the very lowest
 end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a few others play in that
 consumer/SOHO space, and within that space price is not always the
 differentiator.



 While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, years ago,
 Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of better quality.  But
 they were in the same enterprise level class... :)

 And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



 *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
 *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
 * *

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
 jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

 LOL, +1

 Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than
 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the
 area of KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open
 to evidence supporting the contrary.  :-)

 Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

 Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please
 excuse brevity  any misspellings.

 - Reply message -
 From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am

 Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
 mailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A
 little.

 -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker


 Sent from my Motorola Droid

 On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com
 mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
 I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that
 who makes OmniView?)

 Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
 Technology Coordinator
 Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
 jra...@e...

 -Original Message-

 From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com
 ]

 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

 My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
 you must have thought I wa...

 - Original Message -

 From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:
 mr...@ephrataschools.org
 To: NT System Admin...

 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
 Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


 That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District


 - Original Message -
 From: James Kerr

 [mailto:clusterp.mailto:clusterp...

 Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010

 11:31:45 -0700
 Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


  Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
 
 

  - Original Message -

  From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgmailto:
 mr...@ephrataschools.org
  To: NT System...

 
 
  
   Any medic...

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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OT: Day in the life of a sysadmin

2010-09-17 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
Really long, and probably been posted here before, but it eerily reminds me of 
someone I know...sound familiar to anyone else? (copied from 
http://www.yuksrus.com/computers_sysadmin.html)


The life of a sysadmin goes approximately as follows.

8am: Your pager goes off and wakes you up. The message says it's the
office, and it's a crisis. You roll out of bed moaning.

8:15am: You are now sufficiently awake to phone the office. Your pager
has gone off three times already. You get through to the office and the
receptionist is frantic. She says nobody in the entire office can print
and they have a major proposal that has to be faxed out before 9am and
if it isn't the company could lose a million dollars in new business.
You try to get her to explain what's wrong, but she's incoherent.

8:30am: You're dressed in yesterday's dirty clothes (they were all you
could find in time) and running out the door, sipping a Jolt cola and
hailing a cab to the office.

8:45am: You arrive at the office.

8:46am: You determine that the problem is that the printer is turned
off, and you turn it back on. 10,000 pages spew out from the hundreds of
multiple failed attempts by all of your coworkers to print.

8:47am: Your boss reams you out for not having fixed that printer
problem last time when you said it was all taken care of. You spend the
next hour explaining that there's nothing you can do to stop people from
turning off the printer if they *really* want to. You don't bother to
mention that you happen to know that the person who did it is your
boss's spouse.

9:45ish: You finally convince your boss to release you and make your way
to your office, assaulted all along the way by people demanding that you
must help them fix things right now that you know are going to take
weeks and really aren't priority.

10am: You finally arrive at your office and shut and lock the door to
keep out the users. You start to read the 40 or so email messages you
find waiting every morning, which include about 5 new requests, 34 or so
messages demanding to know why such and such hasn't gotten done yet, and
one message from your boss denying your request to have an assistant and
demanding that you justify how you spend your time yet again.

10:30am: You realize that you're never going to finish getting through
your email if you keep getting interrupted by these damned telephone
calls from the same people who sent you the email asking the same
questions, so you put your phone on do-not-disturb and go back to your
email.

11am: You've just finished responding to all of your email, including
the umpteen millionth justification of your existence for your boss.
Unfortunately, the secretary has figured out how to order the phone
system to override your do-not-disturb on your phone, and is now routing
all the angry phone calls from your coworkers to you.

11:30am: You finish talking to everyone on the phone and calming them
down.

11:30am-4:30pm: You work your ass off on whatever projects have the most
urgency to the company. Usually this involves a lot of work with
software, crawling around on the floor several times, tearing a hole in
your clothing, and banging your head (hard) on the bottom of a desk.

3pm: You have your lunch delivered to your office.

4:30pm: You finally get to touch your lunch, and realize that Burger
King french fries do not taste good cold. You're on about your 15th coke
since arriving in the office.

4:35pm: Your lunch is over. You're not finished eating, but your boss
has just phoned you (he knows how to override the DND on the phone too)
and demanded that you drop everything and go fix some asinine problem
which you know is caused by the user and which you fix every week and
which you have warned the user about but about which they just don't
listen.

6:30pm: You finish the project your boss set you to and decide to try to
sneak out of the office and go home. (Not that you have a social life or
anything, but you haven't had 8 hours sleep in a month and a half.) In
the elevator on the way out of the office you encounter a coworker, who
grabs you by the ear and drags you back to the office to fix something
that's bugging them.

6:30pm-8pm: Somehow, despite repeated attempts to leave, the moment you
try to actually do so, someone else appears to force you to work.

8pm: You're about to depart when you're suddenly informed that there's
some vitally urgent data processing that has to be done and that only
you know how to do and which can't be performed until all of the data
entry people have left for the night at 10pm.

8pm-10pm: You try to nap in your office but the phone keeps ringing so
you finally give up and put in several more hours of working.

10pm: You try to do your data processing but can't because there are
still people logged into the data acquisition system. You spend the next
fifteen minutes running around begging them to log out, and they reply
that yeah, I'll be out in a minute...

10:20pm: You get sick of 

OT: Friday funny

2010-09-17 Thread Andy Shook
Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

Shook


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RE: Friday funny

2010-09-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Nothin unusual.

 

-sc

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Friday funny

 

Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

 

Shook

 

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RE: Friday funny

2010-09-17 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Unless that was the point.

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday funny

 

Nothin unusual.

 

-sc

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Friday funny

 

Go to google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

 

Shook

 

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Re: Deploying Printers via GPO

2010-09-17 Thread Stephen Wimberly
I moved all our network printers to GPP with security groups as
described above and love it!  although now that we have started to
deploy Windows 7 I find that it doesn't work on Windows 7.  I don't
have the article handy that explains why, but a word of caution to
test your newly created GPP on some Windows 7 boxes before you go hog
wild!



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Miller Bonnie L.
mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote:
 Interesting—I don’t think I’ve heard of any hangs like that, but I will go
 check that setting as we don’t have a widespread deployment yet (but it’s
 coming soon!).  Thanks!



 -B



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:40 AM

 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO



 it's in User Configuration | Admin Templates | Control Panel | Printers |
 Point and Print Restrictions | Security Prompts

 On 17 September 2010 08:01, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 It's the GPO that allows Vista and above to automatically install the
 drivers when they are not present. Otherwise it hangs at the GPO
 application.

 I've just changed jobs so can't dig out the exact GPO setting, sorry!



 On 16 September 2010 16:01, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu
 wrote:

 +1, works well for us here too, but we target the computer ou + the user
 group in combo.  James—can you clarify what you mean on the Point and print
 restrictions?  I don’t think we have that set and I’m wondering what the
 issue is/was.



 For XP machines, make sure you have the latest GPP preferences update
 applied for this all to work.



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:15 AM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO



 Use loopback policy processing on your computers OU, deploy the Group Policy
 Preferences printers list as a user config applied to the computers OU, set
 the default printer through that, and target it to the required users.

 Make sure you set the GPO with the point-and-print restrictions as well, so
 it doesn't hang when popping up the box to install the driver if there isn't
 a suitable one installed.

 On 15 September 2010 18:02, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote:

 Good afternoon all,

     Currently in a 08 domain with all XP workstations SP3 and
 GPO extensions installed.  I need to deploy printers based on the machine
 and not the user.  I see I can deploy printers to computers through a GPO,
 BUT you can’t set the default printer that way.  It looks like I can deploy
 the printers to the user, then use ‘item-level targeting’ so it applies only
 when users logon to computers in certain OU’s.   Is there a better way to
 skin this cat?



 Should I make a printer policy per OU, or make 1 global one with all the
 printers and assign them with the item-level targeting?



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RE: Friday funny

2010-09-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
Trying to skew the Google search statistics ??? grin

 

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IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Friday funny

 

Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)

 

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Re: Friday funny

2010-09-17 Thread Stefan Jafs
“About 1,380,000,000 results (0.18 seconds)” is what I’m getting.

SJ

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  Nothin unusual.



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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Bill Humphries
Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.  
animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.



Bill

Andrew S. Baker wrote:

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You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week 
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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:


Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.

 


On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!

 


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Technology Coordinator
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*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation

 


Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.

 


That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
correct.

 


However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
quality or value.

 


I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
price is not always the differentiator.

 


While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
class... :)

And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
 :-)

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Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

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ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
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What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
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Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
 A little.

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I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky.
(Isn't that who makes OmniView?)

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RE: Friday funny

2010-09-17 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
You mean it didn’t say, “About ∞ results (0.01 seconds)”?



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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday funny

“About 1,380,000,000 results (0.18 seconds)” is what I’m getting.

SJ
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
Nothin unusual.

-sc

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Subject: OT: Friday funny

Go to google.comhttp://google.com/ and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)

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Re: OT: Friday funny

2010-09-17 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I dont see anything funny!  :-(

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Re: #*$% Security Tools Malware

2010-09-17 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 16 Sep 2010 at 6:27, John Hornbuckle  wrote:

 What happens is that they go to some website that pops up a browser
 window that´s designed to look like the window of an antivirus app. They
 actually do a pretty good job-it can fool the average user easily. Anyhow,
 the animation in the window tells them they´re infected and to click here
 to clean the virus, and when they click there it downloads an EXE that
 plants the malware on their system. 

Most of these popups are hard-coded to look like the standard XP theme, so one 
of the simplest techniques to fight these malware popups is to change your XP 
theme from the standard XP theme to Windows Classic.  I use that theme whenever 
I log in with an Admin-level account, it reminds me that I'm an administrator.


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Re: IE9 beta

2010-09-17 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 16 Sep 2010 at 6:14, John Hornbuckle  wrote:

 Can this run alongside with the 32-bit version (that is, run 64-bit Square in
 64-bit IE and the regular 32-bit 10.1 in 32-bit IE)? 

If it can't, you could set it up as the primary Internet Explorer and then have 
your working IE in a VPC image for your real work.  MS even makes preconfigured 
VPCs of different flavours of Internet Explorer available for download here:

Download details: Internet Explorer Application Compatibility VPC Image
VPC Hard Disk Images for testing websites with different Internet 
Explorer versions on Windows XP and Windows Vista
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EFdisplaylang=en
or here if the above wraps unusably: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2atkeqh

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Re: #*$% Security Tools Malware

2010-09-17 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 16 Sep 2010 at 11:18, Alex Eckelberry  wrote:

 I have asked and they said they would put that up. 

Kewl ...

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 On 15 Sep 2010 at 14:45, Alex Eckelberry  wrote:
 
  In my discussions with Malwarebytes, they have indicated that they are 
  ok with the use of Malwarebytes in a commercial environment for a 
  one-time use to clean an infected system -- at least as it regards 
  the website vipre.malwarebytes.org.
 
 Having that made explicit on the vipre.malwarebytes.org page would be a Good 
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Re: iTunes

2010-09-17 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 16 Sep 2010 at 21:01, Jon Harris  wrote:

 ^(*^()()* iTunes was required to get music 
 loaded on my daughters iPod.

Not true, I believe you can use SharePod to load iPods. (No personal 
experience, I don't own one.)

  SharePod
Add and remove music, videos, playlists and artwork on your iPod.
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Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

2010-09-17 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 17 Sep 2010 at 7:50, Miller Bonnie L.  wrote:

 I bought a new W7 Pro laptop at home a while back, getting pro mainly
 for the XP mode. I used disk2vhd to create a vhd file from my old XP laptop
 (that I´ve wiped), copied it over, and thought I could replace the default
 .vhd in XP mode. But, after it just wouldn´t work, some googling seemed to
 indicate that there is something special about the basic XP-mode freshly
 installed .vhd provided via the download, and that you HAVE to start clean
 from that, for anything you want to run or deploy-hence the
 licensing/activation issues. I also read something that you are only legal
 to run the clean-installed vhd as the free copy of XP, anything else and
 you have to license. 

I wonder what the license issues are WRT to running that VHD in a different VM 
environment like VirtualBox.  You own the original license for XP, but if it 
was an OEM license I suppose the license doesn't transfer with the VHD.

IMHO this is probably a case where MS wouldn't care to open the can of worms of 
licensing -- their special virtual XP vs your old XP license, you *have* a 
license to run XP under W7.  I'll bet a jury would decide to throw MS out of 
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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread William Robbins
*Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.

 - WJR


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote:

 Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.  animation,
 email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.


 Bill

 Andrew S. Baker wrote:

 *//**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*

 You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
 this week.  Didn't you notice?

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 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
 jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.


On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA_
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*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation


Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.


That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
correct.


However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
quality or value.


I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
price is not always the differentiator.


While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
class... :)

And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
 :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
Please excuse brevity  any misspellings.

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Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
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Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
 A little.

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I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky.
(Isn't that who makes OmniView?)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@e...

-Original Message-

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com
mailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com
mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the
Raritan,
you must have thought I wa...

- Original Message -

From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org

Re: #*$% Security Tools Malware

2010-09-17 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
OpenDNS is a win-win imho.  Can anyone tell me otherwise?  Like Jonathan,
I've been using it religiously since the poisoning issues.  In my DNS
performance testing its always the fastest as well.

If you never have, test yours as well:

   http://code.google.com/p/namebench/

--
ME2


On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 OpenDNS provides similar benefits...


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 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:27 AM, John Hornbuckle 
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

 Trying it now. Love the concept—let’s see if it helps.  :)







 *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:58 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: #*$% Security Tools Malware



 Btw, we update the malware URLs of these rogues right into ClearCloud.



 Feel free to and the ClearCloud DNS server as a replacement to your
 existing DNS:



 http://clearclouddns.com/



 It’s still beta, but I think you’ll find it works quite well.  And it’s
 free.





 Alex







 *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:55 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: #*$% Security Tools Malware



 http://vipre.malwarebytes.org/



 Free.  And the combination really works.



 *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:20 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* #*$% Security Tools Malware



 The “Security Tools” malware is about to drive me insane. My users keep
 managing to infect themselves with it, and we’re having trouble stopping it.



 They don’t run with admin rights, so there’s no real damage done to their
 systems and we can clean it up in about two minutes. But the time adds up,
 and I’m tired of my technicians having to waste time on it.



 Our antimalware software is Microsoft’s Forefront Client Security, and
 it’s having a tough time catching this. Every time I get infected, I send
 the EXE to Microsoft and they update their definitions—but the EXE’s used by
 the malware apparently change rapidly, and seem to constantly be a step
 ahead of FCS’s definitions.



 I can think of a couple of options that I know would stop it, like
 blocking all EXE’s at our web filter or using group policy to limit the
 running of EXE’s—but this would also prevent users from doing things like
 installing safe plug-ins from websites, so it’s not a first resort.



 Suggestions?







 John Hornbuckle

 MIS Department

 Taylor County School District

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RE: IE9 beta

2010-09-17 Thread Sam Cayze
Dang.  Nice find!  Thanks :)

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE9 beta

On 16 Sep 2010 at 6:14, John Hornbuckle  wrote:

 Can this run alongside with the 32-bit version (that is, run 64-bit 
 Square in 64-bit IE and the regular 32-bit 10.1 in 32-bit IE)?

If it can't, you could set it up as the primary Internet Explorer and
then have your working IE in a VPC image for your real work.  MS even
makes preconfigured VPCs of different flavours of Internet Explorer
available for download here:

Download details: Internet Explorer Application Compatibility VPC Image
VPC Hard Disk Images for testing websites with different Internet 
Explorer versions on Windows XP and Windows Vista
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958
F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EFdisplaylang=en
or here if the above wraps unusably: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2atkeqh

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Sean Martin
Latent racism?

If you're using HP switches, the racism would arrive without delay complete
with a multimedia footer appended to it.

- Sean

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:21 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.

  - WJR



 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote:

 Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
  animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.


 Bill

 Andrew S. Baker wrote:

 *//**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*

 You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
 this week.  Didn't you notice?

 *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
 http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker
 
 *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
 * *

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
 jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.


On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA_
_
jra...@eaglemds.com_
_www.eaglemds.com

  

*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation


Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.


That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
correct.


However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
quality or value.


I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
price is not always the differentiator.


While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
class... :)

And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



**ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) 
 http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker
 
**Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
** **

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
 :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
Please excuse brevity  any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am

Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
asbz...@gmail.com
mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
 A little.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker
 http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker


Sent from my Motorola Droid

On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
jra...@eaglemds.com
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky.
(Isn't that who makes OmniView?)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@e...

-Original Message-

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com
mailto:cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com
mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]


Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Jonathan Link
ROFLMAO!

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.comwrote:

 Latent racism?

 If you're using HP switches, the racism would arrive without delay complete
 with a multimedia footer appended to it.

 - Sean

   On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:21 AM, William Robbins 
 dangerw...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.

  - WJR



 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote:

 Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
  animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.


 Bill

 Andrew S. Baker wrote:

 *//**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*

 You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
 this week.  Didn't you notice?

 *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
 http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker
 
 *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
 * *

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
 jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.


On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA_
_
jra...@eaglemds.com_
_www.eaglemds.com

  

*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation


Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.


That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
correct.


However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
quality or value.


I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
price is not always the differentiator.


While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
class... :)

And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



**ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) 
 http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker
 
**Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
** **

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
 :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
Please excuse brevity  any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am

Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
asbz...@gmail.com
mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
 A little.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker
 http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker


Sent from my Motorola Droid

On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
jra...@eaglemds.com
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky.
(Isn't that who makes OmniView?)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@e...

-Original Message-

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com

RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not sensitive 
enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team any 
day.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.  
animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.


Bill

Andrew S. Baker wrote:
 *//**/On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*

 You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week 
 special this week.  Didn't you notice?

 *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
 *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
 * *

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
 jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

 Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
 Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
 was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, I
 just need a KVM, why can't I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
 Why do I need to spend $x,000? Well for some applications, it
 might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
 device and how much frustration you're willing to live with.

  

 On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!

  

 Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
 Technology Coordinator
 Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA_
 _
 jra...@eaglemds.com_
 _www.eaglemds.com
 

 *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
 mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation

  

 Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
 for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.

  

 That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
 enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
 correct.

  

 However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
 within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
 possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
 quality or value.

  

 I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
 very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
 few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
 price is not always the differentiator.

  

 While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
 years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
 better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
 class... :)

 And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



 **ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
 **Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
 ** **

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

 LOL, +1

 Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
 more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
 concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
 what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
  :-)

 Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

 Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
 Please excuse brevity  any misspellings.

 - Reply message -
 From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am

 Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

 To: NT System Admin Issues
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
 asbz...@gmail.com
 mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com
 mailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
  A little.

 -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker


 Sent from my Motorola Droid

 On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 jra...@eaglemds.com
 mailto:jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com
 mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
 I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky.
 (Isn't that who makes OmniView?)

 Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
 Technology Coordinator
 Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
 jra...@e...

 -Original Message-

 From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com
 

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
LOL Well played, sir.  Well played indeed.

*ASB*
* *
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.comwrote:

 Latent racism?

 If you're using HP switches, the racism would arrive without delay complete
 with a multimedia footer appended to it.

 - Sean

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:21 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.

  - WJR



 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote:

 Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
  animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.


 Bill

 Andrew S. Baker wrote:

 On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!

 You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
 this week.  Didn't you notice?

 -ASB



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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Thank you, thank you!

I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the streets.

*ASB*
* *
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh
k...@colonialsavings.comwrote:

 I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not
 sensitive enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
 As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team
 any day.

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
 animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.


 Bill

 Andrew S. Baker wrote:
  On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
 
  You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
  special this week.  Didn't you notice?
 
  -ASB


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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Matthew W. Ross
I thought this was an Argument!?
No, this is Abuse!
--Monty Python, Argument skit

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Andrew S. Baker
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Fri, 17 Sep 2010
09:33:48 -0700
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation


 Thank you, thank you!
 
 I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the streets.
 
 *ASB*
 * *
 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh
 k...@colonialsavings.comwrote:
 
  I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not
  sensitive enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
  As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team
  any day.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
  Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
 
  Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
  animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
 
 
  Bill
 
  Andrew S. Baker wrote:
   On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
  
   You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
   special this week.  Didn't you notice?
  
   -ASB
 
 
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clearcloud

2010-09-17 Thread S Powell
so in testing the clearcloud DNS, we seem to have issues with our RBL
not working.

our RBL works fine with our ISPs DNS or even google's, or OpenDNS...
but when I tried the clearcloud, no joy

thoughts?  has anyone else seen this?

Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.

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RE: Deploying Printers via GPO

2010-09-17 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
If you come up with the article, please post.  This could be a huge problem for 
us implementing W7 for student labs.  Don't think we've tried it yet.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:swimbe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO

I moved all our network printers to GPP with security groups as
described above and love it!  although now that we have started to
deploy Windows 7 I find that it doesn't work on Windows 7.  I don't
have the article handy that explains why, but a word of caution to
test your newly created GPP on some Windows 7 boxes before you go hog
wild!



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Miller Bonnie L.
mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote:
 Interesting-I don't think I've heard of any hangs like that, but I will go
 check that setting as we don't have a widespread deployment yet (but it's
 coming soon!).  Thanks!



 -B



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:40 AM

 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO



 it's in User Configuration | Admin Templates | Control Panel | Printers |
 Point and Print Restrictions | Security Prompts

 On 17 September 2010 08:01, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 It's the GPO that allows Vista and above to automatically install the
 drivers when they are not present. Otherwise it hangs at the GPO
 application.

 I've just changed jobs so can't dig out the exact GPO setting, sorry!



 On 16 September 2010 16:01, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu
 wrote:

 +1, works well for us here too, but we target the computer ou + the user
 group in combo.  James-can you clarify what you mean on the Point and print
 restrictions?  I don't think we have that set and I'm wondering what the
 issue is/was.



 For XP machines, make sure you have the latest GPP preferences update
 applied for this all to work.



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:15 AM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO



 Use loopback policy processing on your computers OU, deploy the Group Policy
 Preferences printers list as a user config applied to the computers OU, set
 the default printer through that, and target it to the required users.

 Make sure you set the GPO with the point-and-print restrictions as well, so
 it doesn't hang when popping up the box to install the driver if there isn't
 a suitable one installed.

 On 15 September 2010 18:02, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote:

 Good afternoon all,

     Currently in a 08 domain with all XP workstations SP3 and
 GPO extensions installed.  I need to deploy printers based on the machine
 and not the user.  I see I can deploy printers to computers through a GPO,
 BUT you can't set the default printer that way.  It looks like I can deploy
 the printers to the user, then use 'item-level targeting' so it applies only
 when users logon to computers in certain OU's.   Is there a better way to
 skin this cat?



 Should I make a printer policy per OU, or make 1 global one with all the
 printers and assign them with the item-level targeting?



 Thanks all!!



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RE: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

2010-09-17 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
I'll have to dig around and see if I can find what I had read--I think it might 
be in the EULA for XP mode or something.  But if you own an XP copy with a 
license that is valid, I agree that you should be able to run it where you want.

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

On 17 Sep 2010 at 7:50, Miller Bonnie L.  wrote:

 I bought a new W7 Pro laptop at home a while back, getting pro mainly
 for the XP mode. I used disk2vhd to create a vhd file from my old XP laptop
 (that I´ve wiped), copied it over, and thought I could replace the default
 .vhd in XP mode. But, after it just wouldn´t work, some googling seemed to
 indicate that there is something special about the basic XP-mode freshly
 installed .vhd provided via the download, and that you HAVE to start clean
 from that, for anything you want to run or deploy-hence the
 licensing/activation issues. I also read something that you are only legal
 to run the clean-installed vhd as the free copy of XP, anything else and
 you have to license. 

I wonder what the license issues are WRT to running that VHD in a different VM 
environment like VirtualBox.  You own the original license for XP, but if it 
was an OEM license I suppose the license doesn't transfer with the VHD.

IMHO this is probably a case where MS wouldn't care to open the can of worms of 
licensing -- their special virtual XP vs your old XP license, you *have* a 
license to run XP under W7.  I'll bet a jury would decide to throw MS out of 
court on that one ;-)

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Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

2010-09-17 Thread Gary Slinger
Google Windows VDA.  MS's position on running a virtualized Windows instance 
is you either need SA, or a VDA subscription. 

-Original Message-
From: Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 09:41:04 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: How to restore XP Image in 
XP Mode

I'll have to dig around and see if I can find what I had read--I think it might 
be in the EULA for XP mode or something.  But if you own an XP copy with a 
license that is valid, I agree that you should be able to run it where you want.

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How to restore XP Image in XP Mode

On 17 Sep 2010 at 7:50, Miller Bonnie L.  wrote:

 I bought a new W7 Pro laptop at home a while back, getting pro mainly
 for the XP mode. I used disk2vhd to create a vhd file from my old XP laptop
 (that I´ve wiped), copied it over, and thought I could replace the default
 .vhd in XP mode. But, after it just wouldn´t work, some googling seemed to
 indicate that there is something special about the basic XP-mode freshly
 installed .vhd provided via the download, and that you HAVE to start clean
 from that, for anything you want to run or deploy-hence the
 licensing/activation issues. I also read something that you are only legal
 to run the clean-installed vhd as the free copy of XP, anything else and
 you have to license. 

I wonder what the license issues are WRT to running that VHD in a different VM 
environment like VirtualBox.  You own the original license for XP, but if it 
was an OEM license I suppose the license doesn't transfer with the VHD.

IMHO this is probably a case where MS wouldn't care to open the can of worms of 
licensing -- their special virtual XP vs your old XP license, you *have* a 
license to run XP under W7.  I'll bet a jury would decide to throw MS out of 
court on that one ;-)

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GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
Help! Help! I'm being repressed! - (says the HP switch from within a largely 
Cisco network)




But I'm not dead yet! - 3Com

Don't worry, you will be! - HP to 3Com




she turned me into a newt! (Cisco says excitedly about HP)

You look alright to me... (HP Procurve net admin)

I got better... (Cisco sheepishly...)



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Technology Coordinator
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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

I thought this was an Argument!?
No, this is Abuse!
--Monty Python, Argument skit

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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Sent: Fri, 17 Sep 2010
09:33:48 -0700
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation


 Thank you, thank you!

 I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the streets.

 *ASB*
 * *
 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh
 k...@colonialsavings.comwrote:

  I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not
  sensitive enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
  As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team
  any day.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
  Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
 
  Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
  animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
 
 
  Bill
 
  Andrew S. Baker wrote:
   On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
  
   You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
   special this week.  Didn't you notice?
  
   -ASB
 

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Re: clearcloud

2010-09-17 Thread Roger Wright
Can you create a static DNS entry pointing to your RBL?


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 so in testing the clearcloud DNS, we seem to have issues with our RBL
 not working.

 our RBL works fine with our ISPs DNS or even google's, or OpenDNS...
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RE: Deploying Printers via GPO

2010-09-17 Thread Miller Bonnie L .
And to possibly answer my own post, I did a quick google and am mostly seeing 
stuff about driver compatibility being the problem.  For example, adding Win7 
boxen when your print server is still WS03, then it can't load drivers so the 
GPP appears to not work.

We just painfully completed our print server migration to 2008 R2 last 
spring, and have both XP and 7 machines loading drivers from there, both x86 
and x64.  I only have one application that is still having a major issue, which 
is Filemaker Pro combined with latest the HP universal drivers.

-Original Message-
From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Deploying Printers via GPO

If you come up with the article, please post.  This could be a huge problem for 
us implementing W7 for student labs.  Don't think we've tried it yet.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:swimbe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO

I moved all our network printers to GPP with security groups as
described above and love it!  although now that we have started to
deploy Windows 7 I find that it doesn't work on Windows 7.  I don't
have the article handy that explains why, but a word of caution to
test your newly created GPP on some Windows 7 boxes before you go hog
wild!



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Miller Bonnie L.
mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote:
 Interesting-I don't think I've heard of any hangs like that, but I will go
 check that setting as we don't have a widespread deployment yet (but it's
 coming soon!).  Thanks!



 -B



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:40 AM

 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO



 it's in User Configuration | Admin Templates | Control Panel | Printers |
 Point and Print Restrictions | Security Prompts

 On 17 September 2010 08:01, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 It's the GPO that allows Vista and above to automatically install the
 drivers when they are not present. Otherwise it hangs at the GPO
 application.

 I've just changed jobs so can't dig out the exact GPO setting, sorry!



 On 16 September 2010 16:01, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu
 wrote:

 +1, works well for us here too, but we target the computer ou + the user
 group in combo.  James-can you clarify what you mean on the Point and print
 restrictions?  I don't think we have that set and I'm wondering what the
 issue is/was.



 For XP machines, make sure you have the latest GPP preferences update
 applied for this all to work.



 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:15 AM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: Re: Deploying Printers via GPO



 Use loopback policy processing on your computers OU, deploy the Group Policy
 Preferences printers list as a user config applied to the computers OU, set
 the default printer through that, and target it to the required users.

 Make sure you set the GPO with the point-and-print restrictions as well, so
 it doesn't hang when popping up the box to install the driver if there isn't
 a suitable one installed.

 On 15 September 2010 18:02, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote:

 Good afternoon all,

     Currently in a 08 domain with all XP workstations SP3 and
 GPO extensions installed.  I need to deploy printers based on the machine
 and not the user.  I see I can deploy printers to computers through a GPO,
 BUT you can't set the default printer that way.  It looks like I can deploy
 the printers to the user, then use 'item-level targeting' so it applies only
 when users logon to computers in certain OU's.   Is there a better way to
 skin this cat?



 Should I make a printer policy per OU, or make 1 global one with all the
 printers and assign them with the item-level targeting?



 Thanks all!!



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RE: OT: Friday funny

2010-09-17 Thread Andy Shook
Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

Shook

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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny

I dont see anything funny!  :-(

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Go to google.comhttp://google.com and search for 'Google' (w/o the ' marks)

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Re: OT: Friday funny

2010-09-17 Thread William Robbins
*raises hand*

 - WJR


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:

  Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?



 Shook



 *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny



 I dont see anything funny!  :-(

 --
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 wrote:

 Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)



 Shook



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Re: OT: Friday funny

2010-09-17 Thread S Powell
well I use Bing, because it is the best way google the things you are
looking for.

/50's housewife voice


Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.



On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 09:55, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:
 Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?



 Shook



 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: OT: Friday funny



 I dont see anything funny!  :-(

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 Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)



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RE: OT: Friday funny

2010-09-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
I didn’t see anything funny

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Friday funny

 

Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?

 

Shook

 

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I dont see anything funny!  :-(

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Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)

 

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Re: OT: Friday funny

2010-09-17 Thread Steve Ens
- Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote:

  Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?



 Shook



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 I dont see anything funny!  :-(

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 Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)



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Re: OT: Friday funny

2010-09-17 Thread William Robbins
Vinnie Barbarino
What?  Where?
/Vinnie Barbarino

 - WJR


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:59, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.comwrote:

  Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?



 Shook



 *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny



 I dont see anything funny!  :-(

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  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com
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 Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)



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Re: clearcloud

2010-09-17 Thread S Powell
i'll look at that... in the mean time

w2k8 DNS server, I have it in there
 server,  DNS, Forwarders, I have the clearcloud DNS in there, but
it won't resolve the dns server FQDN.
the others I use, OpenDNS and our ISPs resolve fine...

odd that


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 Can you create a static DNS entry pointing to your RBL?


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 so in testing the clearcloud DNS, we seem to have issues with our RBL
 not working.

 our RBL works fine with our ISPs DNS or even google's, or OpenDNS...
 but when I tried the clearcloud, no joy

 thoughts?  has anyone else seen this?

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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Jeff Steward
Well done, I was *that* close to having to clean coffee off my monitor :)

-Jeff Steward

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.comwrote:

 Latent racism?

 If you're using HP switches, the racism would arrive without delay complete
 with a multimedia footer appended to it.

 - Sean

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:21 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.

  - WJR



 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote:

 Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
  animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.


 Bill

 Andrew S. Baker wrote:

 *//**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*

 You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
 this week.  Didn't you notice?

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 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
 jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.


On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA_
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jra...@eaglemds.com_
_www.eaglemds.com

  

*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation


Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.


That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
correct.


However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
quality or value.


I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
price is not always the differentiator.


While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
class... :)

And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:

LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
 :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
Please excuse brevity  any misspellings.

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From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am

Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
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mailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
 A little.

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jra...@eaglemds.com
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.commailto:jra...@eaglemds.com
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com wrote:
I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky.
(Isn't that who makes OmniView?)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians  Associates, PA
jra...@e...


Re: OT: Friday funny

2010-09-17 Thread Steven Peck
Yesterday there was DNS poisoning in some areas.  LifeHacker had an article
on it.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Horschack - Ooo Ooo pick me pick me!

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.comwrote:

  Really?  How many of you did this and did NOT see anything funny?



 Shook



 *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 12:17 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: OT: Friday funny



 I dont see anything funny!  :-(

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 Go to google.com and search for ‘Google’ (w/o the ‘ marks)



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