RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs

[Ken Schaefer]

Presumably this product has an agent or uses WinRM or something to read/pull in 
the logs in real time, back to a central location for correlation. The service 
account that's being used requires permission to read the logs.

Cheers
Ken

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Friday, 29 October 2010 3:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain 
Controller Eventlogs

If your environment is that big how can they look at multiple DCs in real time 
and correlate them?

Maybe I don't understand your requirements but it seems like you want to ship 
the logs real-time to a SIEM or log management tool managed by the security 
team or MSSP, that is a far better way to do it than to grant access to the 
logs directly.

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain 
Controller Eventlogs

Its for Vericept, and they need to read the logs in realtime to correlate what 
is seen on the network with a user.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain 
Controller Eventlogs

Could you not just setup a job to copy the security.evtx file to somewhere else 
and let them access that?



On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:48 AM, James Rankin 
mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
Can you control this by NTFS access to the .evt file itself?
On 27 October 2010 16:31, Ziots, Edward 
mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org>> wrote:
Running a Windows 2008 R2 DFL/FFL domain, security team needs a service account 
to have read only access to the Security Eventlog accordingly. Is there a way 
via the Default Domain Controllers Policy to Grant this, or maybe a users right 
in Windows 2008 R2 accordingly?

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

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Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 28 Oct 2010 at 21:43, Jeff Steward  wrote:

> I'll second that. Bought one for work and it was *the* most impressive 
> game changing piece of hardware I'd used in a long time. I scanned to 
> PDF things that I never would have thought to scan just because it was 
> so easy to use.
> 
> -Jeff
> 
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Gary Slinger  
> wrote:
> Fujitsu ScanSnap. Cheap, easy, just works. Couldn't work 
> without it. 

Which one(s), there are many different models.


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Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Gary Slinger]

I've got about 8 terabytes of private cloud, and that is one of the feeders to 
it.It feeds Evernote pretty well too. 

It's almost like I know what I'm talking about :)

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Steward 
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 21:43:37 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: OT: trade publications - 
toss or archive?

I'll second that.  Bought one for work and it was *the* most impressive game
changing piece of hardware I'd used in a long time.  I scanned to PDF things
that I never would have thought to scan just because it was so easy to use.

-Jeff

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Gary Slinger wrote:

> Fujitsu ScanSnap. Cheap, easy, just works. Couldn't work without it.
> --
> *From: * Jon Harris 
> *Date: *Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:43:44 -0400
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
> *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" <
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> *Subject: *Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
> I like this idea but would need a page scanner to convert some that I am
> keeping.  BTW, doesn't both TechNet and Windows IT Pro keep an online
> archive of their mags some place?
>
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:42 PM, 
> wrote:
>
>> I find it easier to scan in the articles/pages I find interesting and
>> then recycle the magazine...
>>
>> So, my messy papaers just become messy files...
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Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Jeff Steward]

I'll second that.  Bought one for work and it was *the* most impressive game
changing piece of hardware I'd used in a long time.  I scanned to PDF things
that I never would have thought to scan just because it was so easy to use.

-Jeff

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Gary Slinger wrote:

> Fujitsu ScanSnap. Cheap, easy, just works. Couldn't work without it.
> --
> *From: * Jon Harris 
> *Date: *Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:43:44 -0400
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
> *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" <
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> *Subject: *Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
> I like this idea but would need a page scanner to convert some that I am
> keeping.  BTW, doesn't both TechNet and Windows IT Pro keep an online
> archive of their mags some place?
>
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:42 PM, 
> wrote:
>
>> I find it easier to scan in the articles/pages I find interesting and
>> then recycle the magazine...
>>
>> So, my messy papaers just become messy files...
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Re: Windows CE

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Brian Desmond  wrote:
> So the WP7 (and previous generations of smartphone/pocketpc stuff) is totally
> separate from this.

  That's not really accurate.

  WinCE is an OS platform, much like WinNT is.  OEMs can license the
base WinCE product, and they get a kit with all sorts of things they
can use.  It's much more modular than WinNTis, or so I'm told.

  Windows PocketPC/Handheld/Mobile/Phone/whatever-it-is-this-year is
built-on top of WinCE.  OEMs which license WinMob don't get the same
bits and pieces that OEMs who license WinCE do -- neither is a proper
subset of the other -- but the core OS is the same.

  Various other products (like the Sync automotive stuff) follow the
same pattern.

  Kind of like the difference between "Windows Server" and "Windows
Home Server".  Same base platform, same API, different layered
products, different marketing.

  It doesn't help that Microsoft has been rather schizophrenic about
how it all fits together over the years.  They change their story a
lot.  Which, I suspect, is part of the OP's concern.

  (Note that WinCE is *not* the NT kernel or Win32 API or "normal
Windows" libraries.  It's a different OS, like how Win 3.x/9X is a
different OS vs NT, even if they share some code.)

> There is literally a TON of enterprise/appliance class hardware out there
> from all manner of companies running Embedded Windows.

  "Windows Embedded" / "Embedded Windows" is even less clearly
defined.  It can refer to WinCE, but it can also refer to the
NT-derivatives like "Windows XP Embedded".  The later is basically
"regular" Windows XP, but with more customization options and
different sales and support channels.

  Are we sufficiently confused yet?  :)

-- Ben

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RE: Windows CE

[Brian Desmond]

So the WP7 (and previous generations of smartphone/pocketpc stuff) is totally 
separate from this. There is literally a TON of enterprise/appliance class 
hardware out there from all manner of companies running Embedded Windows. You 
probably don't even realize some of the stuff you walk up to some days (e.g. 
ATMs) runs it. It's also all over shop floors and other manufacturing 
environments. 

Thanks,
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br...@briandesmond.com

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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows CE

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/products/windowsce/default.ms
px

-Original Message-
From: Santino Codispoti [mailto:santino.codisp...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Windows CE

Does anyone know what plans Microsoft has in teams of continueddevelopment for 
the CE platform for development of embedded devices?   It as seemed the
focus as
switched to Windows Phone 7 


  

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Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Gary Slinger]

Fujitsu ScanSnap.  Cheap, easy, just works.  Couldn't work without it. 

-Original Message-
From: Jon Harris 
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:43:44 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: OT: trade publications - 
toss or archive?

I like this idea but would need a page scanner to convert some that I am
keeping.  BTW, doesn't both TechNet and Windows IT Pro keep an online
archive of their mags some place?

Jon

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:42 PM, wrote:

> I find it easier to scan in the articles/pages I find interesting and
> then recycle the magazine...
>
> So, my messy papaers just become messy files...
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RE: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Ralph Smith]

As long as you are a subscriber you can access Windows IT Pro articles
online.  I don't bother keeping the paper copies any more - when I want
to go back to an article I get it online.  Of course I wouldn't know
there was an article to go back to if I hadn't read it in the print copy
first.  TechNet is only digital, so I haven't read it in a long time.



From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?


I like this idea but would need a page scanner to convert some that I am
keeping.  BTW, doesn't both TechNet and Windows IT Pro keep an online
archive of their mags some place?
 
Jon


On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:42 PM,
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I find it easier to scan in the articles/pages I find
interesting and
then recycle the magazine...

So, my messy papaers just become messy files...


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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Ralph Smith]

Hm.  Building time into my work day for reading ain't gonna work - too
much to do and too little time as it is.  The Kindle, iStuff etc. might
be good if I had one.  Maybe somebody will get me one for my birthday.
 
 



From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?


Not disagreeing - I want that work stuff available as reference at my
desk or hotel table. As I say, hobby and business stuff, on paper so I
can read it at the bar - I don't read tech pubs socially. 

I have been known to build time in to my work schedule for professional
reading/development. 



From: "Ralph Smith"  
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:02:06 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"

Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

All good points about the advantages of digital, but for me if I'm in
front of the computer I'm usually working, not reading magazines.  So
for me if it's digital the only time I'll reference it is if I need
something specific.  I like to get away from the computer to do my
reading.



From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?


PDF/A read on an iPad. Indexed, searchable, easily carryable in bulk or
shared out via a/the Cloud. 

I like my guitar, gun and business mags on paper, so I can read them
over lunch/dinner at a bar and then trash them. Anything to do with
"work", digital is king. 



From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"  
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:11:00 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"

Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?


+100

 

I'm afraid that we're seeing the end of paper bound trade pubs as we
know it.

 

Call me old fashioned, but I think it is sooo much easier to thumb
through a book or magazine sometimes than to search online. And then
there's also the concern of whether the content has been tampered with
or not. Hard to tamper with a physical copy once it has been printed and
bound...

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I'm pretty disappointed it went digital. I'd definitely be willing to
pay for it, but they gave out so many free subscriptions, I think it
just became a casualty.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I'm curious - a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines.  Does
everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only?
I used to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven't looked at it
since it stopped coming in a print version.

 



From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory
voice that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is
online...well, it can be changed...

 

:-)

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack
rat comes back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or
that little article and it won't be out there...

 



From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I
took the opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.
I realized that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two
years (Google is so much easier).

 

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com  
b...@rolandschorr.com 

RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Sam Cayze]

Oops, didn't mean to leave out the iDevices...

 

That's exactly what I do, reverse the txt. 

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

And iDevice, too, as far as the syncing goes.

 

I've gotten quite used to reading Kindle books on my iPhone with the
colors reversed, which is to say white letters on a black background.
It's much easier on the eyes than the default, and I tell myself it
extends the battery time, though that's just a guess.  I actually use my
iPhone over the actual Kindle when reading in a really dim room.  The
LED light attachment thingy I have for the Kindle is too blue, and
doesn't light the reading area uniformly enough for my liking.

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

The backlight is bad for many reasons.  Also tricks the brain at
bedtime.

 

The Kindle is awesome on the eyes, and awesome in general.  I prefer to
it over paper books now. 

Plus, it syncs the last page read with your Android, PC, and Web browser

 

From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:23 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I used to think that, now I'm reading regularly on my iPhone using
iBooks.  Have you checked out a Kindle?  They're surprisingly very easy
on the eyes.

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Maglinger, Paul 
wrote:

I can't read much online without my eyes getting strained.  Something
about the backlight, I think.  

Short reads are okay, but I don't think I could make it through The
Foundation Trilogy online or on a Kindle.

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:11 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

+100

 

I'm afraid that we're seeing the end of paper bound trade pubs as we
know it.

 

Call me old fashioned, but I think it is sooo much easier to thumb
through a book or magazine sometimes than to search online. And then
there's also the concern of whether the content has been tampered with
or not. Hard to tamper with a physical copy once it has been printed and
bound...

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 



From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I'm pretty disappointed it went digital. I'd definitely be willing to
pay for it, but they gave out so many free subscriptions, I think it
just became a casualty.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I'm curious - a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines.  Does
everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only?
I used to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven't looked at it
since it stopped coming in a print version.

 



From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory
voice that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is
online...well, it can be changed...

 

J

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 



From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack
rat comes back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or
that little article and it won't be out there...

 



From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I
took the opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.
I realized that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two
years (Google is so much easier).

 

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com  
b...@rolandschorr.com  

Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr 


Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/roland

RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[James Edwards]

Actually, the Kindle (and Nook) use "e ink" which isn't backlit, and reads
like paper and ink.

 

Jim

 

Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.

 

Short reads are okay, but I don't think I could make it through The
Foundation Trilogy online or on a Kindle.


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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Richard Stovall]

And iDevice, too, as far as the syncing goes.

I've gotten quite used to reading Kindle books on my iPhone with the colors
reversed, which is to say white letters on a black background.  It's much
easier on the eyes than the default, and I tell myself it extends the
battery time, though that's just a guess.  I actually use my iPhone over the
actual Kindle when reading in a really dim room.  The LED light attachment
thingy I have for the Kindle is too blue, and doesn't light the reading area
uniformly enough for my liking.

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

> The backlight is bad for many reasons.  Also tricks the brain at bedtime.
>
>
>
> The Kindle is awesome on the eyes, and awesome in general.  I prefer to it
> over paper books now.
>
> Plus, it syncs the last page read with your Android, PC, and Web browser
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:23 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> I used to think that, now I'm reading regularly on my iPhone using iBooks.
> Have you checked out a Kindle?  They're surprisingly very easy on the eyes.
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Maglinger, Paul 
> wrote:
>
> I can’t read much online without my eyes getting strained.  Something about
> the backlight, I think.
>
> Short reads are okay, but I don’t think I could make it through The
> Foundation Trilogy online or on a Kindle.
>
>
>
> *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:11 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> +100
>
>
>
> I’m afraid that we’re seeing the end of paper bound trade pubs as we know
> it.
>
>
>
> Call me old fashioned, but I think it is sooo much easier to thumb
> through a book or magazine sometimes than to search online. And then there’s
> also the concern of whether the content has been tampered with or not. Hard
> to tamper with a physical copy once it has been printed and bound…
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
> --
>
> *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:52 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> I’m pretty disappointed it went digital. I’d definitely be willing to pay
> for it, but they gave out so many free subscriptions, I think it just became
> a casualty.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:38 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> I’m curious – a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines.  Does
> everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only?  I
> used to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven’t looked at it since
> it stopped coming in a print version.
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> Aside from that…the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory voice
> that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is online…well,
> it can be changed…
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
> --
>
> *From:* Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our
> fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack rat
> comes back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or that
> little article and it won't be out there...
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* Ben Schorr 
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues 
> *Sent:* Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
> I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I took
> the opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.  I
> realized that I’d rarely opened any of those books in the previous two years
> (Google is so much easier).
>
>
>
>
>
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
> __
> *Roland Schorr & Tower
> *www.rolandschorr.com
> b...@rolandschorr.com
>
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr
>
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr
>
>
>
> *From:* Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
> *To:

Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Jon Harris]

I like this idea but would need a page scanner to convert some that I am
keeping.  BTW, doesn't both TechNet and Windows IT Pro keep an online
archive of their mags some place?

Jon

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:42 PM, wrote:

> I find it easier to scan in the articles/pages I find interesting and
> then recycle the magazine...
>
> So, my messy papaers just become messy files...
>
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> ~   ~
>
> ---
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> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
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> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>

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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Sam Cayze]

The backlight is bad for many reasons.  Also tricks the brain at
bedtime.

 

The Kindle is awesome on the eyes, and awesome in general.  I prefer to
it over paper books now. 

Plus, it syncs the last page read with your Android, PC, and Web browser

 

From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I used to think that, now I'm reading regularly on my iPhone using
iBooks.  Have you checked out a Kindle?  They're surprisingly very easy
on the eyes.

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Maglinger, Paul 
wrote:

I can't read much online without my eyes getting strained.  Something
about the backlight, I think.  

Short reads are okay, but I don't think I could make it through The
Foundation Trilogy online or on a Kindle.

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:11 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

+100

 

I'm afraid that we're seeing the end of paper bound trade pubs as we
know it.

 

Call me old fashioned, but I think it is sooo much easier to thumb
through a book or magazine sometimes than to search online. And then
there's also the concern of whether the content has been tampered with
or not. Hard to tamper with a physical copy once it has been printed and
bound...

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 



From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I'm pretty disappointed it went digital. I'd definitely be willing to
pay for it, but they gave out so many free subscriptions, I think it
just became a casualty.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I'm curious - a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines.  Does
everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only?
I used to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven't looked at it
since it stopped coming in a print version.

 



From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory
voice that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is
online...well, it can be changed...

 

J

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 



From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack
rat comes back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or
that little article and it won't be out there...

 



From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I
took the opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.
I realized that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two
years (Google is so much easier).

 

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com  
b...@rolandschorr.com  

Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr 


Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr
  

 

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to
Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with
one solution... Get another bookshelf ;-)

 

One of these days, I will toss some of them.

 

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO,
Information week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model
Railroading mags that I won't get rid of :)

My other bad habit is keeping those thick Sof

Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Jim Majorowicz]

I used to think that, now I'm reading regularly on my iPhone using iBooks.
Have you checked out a Kindle?  They're surprisingly very easy on the eyes.

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Maglinger, Paul wrote:

>  I can’t read much online without my eyes getting strained.  Something
> about the backlight, I think.
>
> Short reads are okay, but I don’t think I could make it through The
> Foundation Trilogy online or on a Kindle.
>
>
>
> *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:11 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> +100
>
>
>
> I’m afraid that we’re seeing the end of paper bound trade pubs as we know
> it.
>
>
>
> Call me old fashioned, but I think it is sooo much easier to thumb
> through a book or magazine sometimes than to search online. And then there’s
> also the concern of whether the content has been tampered with or not. Hard
> to tamper with a physical copy once it has been printed and bound…
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>   --
>
> *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:52 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> I’m pretty disappointed it went digital. I’d definitely be willing to pay
> for it, but they gave out so many free subscriptions, I think it just became
> a casualty.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:38 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> I’m curious – a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines.  Does
> everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only?  I
> used to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven’t looked at it since
> it stopped coming in a print version.
>
>
>   --
>
> *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> Aside from that…the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory voice
> that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is online…well,
> it can be changed…
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>   --
>
> *From:* Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our
> fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack rat
> comes back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or that
> little article and it won't be out there...
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Ben Schorr 
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues 
> *Sent:* Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
> I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I took
> the opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.  I
> realized that I’d rarely opened any of those books in the previous two years
> (Google is so much easier).
>
>
>
>
>
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
> __
> *Roland Schorr & Tower
> *www.rolandschorr.com
> b...@rolandschorr.com
>
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr
>
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr
>
>
>
> *From:* Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to
> Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with one
> solution… Get another bookshelf ;-)
>
>
>
> One of these days, I will toss some of them.
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO,
> Information week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model
> Railroading mags that I won't get rid of :)
>
> My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0
> Networking, SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.  That's
> where I should clean house...
>
>
>
> Don K
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Webster 
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues 
> *Sent:* Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
> *Sub

RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Maglinger, Paul]

I can't read much online without my eyes getting strained.  Something
about the backlight, I think.  

Short reads are okay, but I don't think I could make it through The
Foundation Trilogy online or on a Kindle.

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

+100

 

I'm afraid that we're seeing the end of paper bound trade pubs as we
know it.

 

Call me old fashioned, but I think it is sooo much easier to thumb
through a book or magazine sometimes than to search online. And then
there's also the concern of whether the content has been tampered with
or not. Hard to tamper with a physical copy once it has been printed and
bound...

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I'm pretty disappointed it went digital. I'd definitely be willing to
pay for it, but they gave out so many free subscriptions, I think it
just became a casualty.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I'm curious - a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines.  Does
everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only?
I used to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven't looked at it
since it stopped coming in a print version.

 



From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory
voice that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is
online...well, it can be changed...

 

J

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack
rat comes back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or
that little article and it won't be out there...

 



From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I
took the opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.
I realized that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two
years (Google is so much easier).

 

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com  
b...@rolandschorr.com  

Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr 


Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr
  

 

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to
Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with
one solution... Get another bookshelf ;-)

 

One of these days, I will toss some of them.

 

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO,
Information week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model
Railroading mags that I won't get rid of :)

My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0
Networking, SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.
That's where I should clean house...

 

Don K

 



From: Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the
other mags I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my
office landlord to throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster
f

RE: Win 7 file replication

[Carl Houseman]

Computer 1 (primary):

1. Share the My Documents folder

 

Computer 2 (secondary):

1. Map a drive letter to the My Documents share on Computer 1.

2. Redirect My Documents to the mapped drive.

3. Make the mapped drive "always available offline".

 

Carl

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 7 file replication

 

He has a large number of files under my \my documents folder and wants to
synchronize them to his secondary PC.

 

Tom

>>> "Matthew W. Ross"  10/28/2010 2:57 PM >>>
He just wants to sync two folders between two computers?

Funny, I think robocopy and synctoy will be your 1st and 2nd choice.

Other ideas:
DFS-R (on 2 servers)
something like Dropbox

What is he trying to accomplish?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Tom Miller
[mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 28 Oct 2010
11:54:03 -0700
Subject: Win 7 file replication


> Folks,
>  
> A colleague here asked if there was some built-in way to replicate files
> from one of his Win 7 PCs to his other PC (laptop to desktop for example). 
> Aside from robocopy or synctoy, is there a built-in program for this in Win
> 7?
>  
> Thanks,

 


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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Ralph Smith]

All good points about the advantages of digital, but for me if I'm in
front of the computer I'm usually working, not reading magazines.  So
for me if it's digital the only time I'll reference it is if I need
something specific.  I like to get away from the computer to do my
reading.



From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?


PDF/A read on an iPad. Indexed, searchable, easily carryable in bulk or
shared out via a/the Cloud. 

I like my guitar, gun and business mags on paper, so I can read them
over lunch/dinner at a bar and then trash them. Anything to do with
"work", digital is king. 



From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"  
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:11:00 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"

Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?


+100

 

I'm afraid that we're seeing the end of paper bound trade pubs as we
know it.

 

Call me old fashioned, but I think it is sooo much easier to thumb
through a book or magazine sometimes than to search online. And then
there's also the concern of whether the content has been tampered with
or not. Hard to tamper with a physical copy once it has been printed and
bound...

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
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www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I'm pretty disappointed it went digital. I'd definitely be willing to
pay for it, but they gave out so many free subscriptions, I think it
just became a casualty.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I'm curious - a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines.  Does
everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only?
I used to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven't looked at it
since it stopped coming in a print version.

 



From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory
voice that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is
online...well, it can be changed...

 

:-)

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
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From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack
rat comes back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or
that little article and it won't be out there...

 



From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I
took the opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.
I realized that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two
years (Google is so much easier).

 

 

Ben M. Schorr
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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr
  

 

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to
Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with
one solution... Get another bookshelf ;-)

 

One of these days, I will toss some of them.

 

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO,
Information week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model
Railroading mags that I won't get 

Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Matthew W. Ross]

Exactly! They are not mutually inclusive or exclusive from eachother.

Sad, isn't it?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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From: Ben Scott
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To: NT System Admin Issues
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Sent: Thu, 28 Oct 2010
14:36:58 -0700
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?


> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Matthew W. Ross
>  wrote:
> > But knowing more than somebody else, they'll call me an "expert". I always
> correct them: I'm not an Expert. I'm a Professional.
> 
>   As you said, "expert" is often relative to a population.  In the
> local population, you're an expert.  :)
> 
>   As far as "professional" goes... I've met plenty of people who were
> getting paid to do something, yet clearly didn't know what they were
> doing.
> 
>   Hmmm.
> 
> -- Ben
> 
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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Matthew W. Ross
 wrote:
> But knowing more than somebody else, they'll call me an "expert". I always 
> correct them: I'm not an Expert. I'm a Professional.

  As you said, "expert" is often relative to a population.  In the
local population, you're an expert.  :)

  As far as "professional" goes... I've met plenty of people who were
getting paid to do something, yet clearly didn't know what they were
doing.

  Hmmm.

-- Ben

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RE: Windows CE

[Martin Blackstone]

MS's track record with mobile devices has been dismal at best over the
years. That said WM7 has gotten a lot of really positive press, and since
its all ActiveSync driven, it shouldn't be any less of a phone for the
enterprise than Droid and iPwn.

The question in my mind is that is it just another OS that's going to get
tossed to the side of the road, or will it be a developing entity like Droid
and will you be able to easily upgrade your phones rather than in the past
where you were pretty much stuck with what you got.

 

 

From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows CE

 

I think what they are pushing now is a phone for the consumer space.  Are
they even targeting the new phone for the enterprise space? 

Cheers

Ryan

 

 

From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows CE

 

I think that is a valid concern.  I'm not entirely sure that Microsoft will
even stay in the phone OS market unless they can find to gain a significant
portion of the smart-phone market, and how many companies are willing to
re-write apps for 4 different OSes?

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Santino Codispoti
 wrote:

Yes I have been reviewing the product site for the last few days.  I just do
not
know if Microsoft is committed to this platform.  Will they continue
development
on Windows Mobile 6.5 and will they also continue development on CE 6.0





- Original Message 
From: Martin Blackstone 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, October 27, 2010 9:17:59 PM
Subject: RE: Windows CE

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/products/windowsce/default.ms
px

-Original Message-
From: Santino Codispoti [mailto:santino.codisp...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Windows CE

Does anyone know what plans Microsoft has in teams of continueddevelopment
for
the CE platform for development of embedded devices?   It as seemed the
focus as
switched to Windows Phone 7




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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Matthew W. Ross]

Oh, I didn't say I'd call myself an expert. Hell no.

But knowing more than somebody else, they'll call me an "expert". I always 
correct them: I'm not an Expert. I'm a Professional.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: David Lum
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To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 28 Oct 2010
12:56:01 -0700
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?


> Interesting...I know more about AD/GPO's and other things than my fellow
> SE's, but I still shudder at being called an expert at anything. Proficient
> yes, able to make most things happen/work yes, expert...oh hell no! That's
> only slightly less terrifying that being called a project manager...
> 
> Dave
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:19 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
> 
> An Expert is someone who knows more than the general population about a
> given field.  (I'm the local Expert on Active Directory, but I don't know as
> much as most of you.)
> 
> A Professional is someone who gets paid to do the work. (I get paid to deal
> with Active Directory.)
> 
> These two are not mutually inclusive, or exclusive.
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> To:
> NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent:
> Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:04:59 -0700
> Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or
> archive?
> 
> 
> > No they don't, they just read an article and become an instant expert.  No
> > thinking required!!
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:06 AM, John Cook  wrote:
> > 
> > >  They have to be capable of thinking first……..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:00 PM
> > >
> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > > *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And this is how we get lusers thinking they know about IT...
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Cook  wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men’s reading room.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:39 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > >
> > > *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I keep all my Windows IT Pro just because it’s so hands on and has
> great
> > > screenshots.  That’s it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
> > >
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM
> > >
> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > >
> > > *Subject:* OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I’m trying to change….really.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Information Week
> > >
> > > CIO Decisions
> > >
> > > Technet
> > >
> > > Windows IT Pro
> > >
> > > Storage
> > >
> > > Information Security
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And I’m sure a few others.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see
> > ANY
> > > value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read
> > them?
> > > I’m leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3
> > months
> > > old, but just wanted some objective perspective.
> > >
> > > Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> > >
> > >
> > > Technology Coordinator
> > > Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> > >
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RE: Windows CE

[Ryan Finnesey]

I think what they are pushing now is a phone for the consumer space.
Are they even targeting the new phone for the enterprise space? 

Cheers

Ryan

 

 

From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows CE

 

I think that is a valid concern.  I'm not entirely sure that Microsoft
will even stay in the phone OS market unless they can find to gain a
significant portion of the smart-phone market, and how many companies
are willing to re-write apps for 4 different OSes?

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Santino Codispoti
 wrote:

Yes I have been reviewing the product site for the last few days.  I
just do not
know if Microsoft is committed to this platform.  Will they continue
development
on Windows Mobile 6.5 and will they also continue development on CE 6.0





- Original Message 
From: Martin Blackstone 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, October 27, 2010 9:17:59 PM
Subject: RE: Windows CE

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/products/windowsce/defaul
t.ms
px

-Original Message-
From: Santino Codispoti [mailto:santino.codisp...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Windows CE

Does anyone know what plans Microsoft has in teams of
continueddevelopment
for
the CE platform for development of embedded devices?   It as seemed the
focus as
switched to Windows Phone 7




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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 wrote:
> I’m afraid that we’re seeing the end of paper bound trade pubs as we know
> it.

s/trade//

> Call me old fashioned, but I think it is sooo much easier to thumb
> through a book or magazine sometimes than to search online.

  Lots of people missed the horse and carriage, too.

> And then there’s also the concern of whether the content has been
> tampered with or not. Hard to tamper with a physical copy once it
> has been printed and bound…

  Download your own copy of the electronic version and store that.

-- Ben

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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

+100

I'm afraid that we're seeing the end of paper bound trade pubs as we know it.

Call me old fashioned, but I think it is sooo much easier to thumb through 
a book or magazine sometimes than to search online. And then there's also the 
concern of whether the content has been tampered with or not. Hard to tamper 
with a physical copy once it has been printed and bound...


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I'm pretty disappointed it went digital. I'd definitely be willing to pay for 
it, but they gave out so many free subscriptions, I think it just became a 
casualty.

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I'm curious - a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines.  Does 
everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only?  I used 
to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven't looked at it since it 
stopped coming in a print version.


From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory voice 
that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is online...well, 
it can be changed...

:)


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our 
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack rat comes 
back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or that little 
article and it won't be out there...


From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I took the 
opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.  I realized 
that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two years (Google is 
so much easier).


Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com
b...@rolandschorr.com
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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to 
Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with one 
solution... Get another bookshelf ;-)

One of these days, I will toss some of them.

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO, Information 
week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model Railroading mags that 
I won't get rid of :)
My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0 
Networking, SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.  That's 
where I should clean house...

Don K


From: Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the other 
mags I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my office 
landlord to throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster for the 
building!  City recycling didn't want that much paper.


Webster

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in kee

RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Crawford, Scott]

I'm pretty disappointed it went digital. I'd definitely be willing to pay for 
it, but they gave out so many free subscriptions, I think it just became a 
casualty.

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I'm curious - a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines.  Does 
everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only?  I used 
to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven't looked at it since it 
stopped coming in a print version.


From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory voice 
that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is online...well, 
it can be changed...

:)


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our 
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack rat comes 
back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or that little 
article and it won't be out there...


From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I took the 
opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.  I realized 
that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two years (Google is 
so much easier).


Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com
b...@rolandschorr.com
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to 
Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with one 
solution... Get another bookshelf ;-)

One of these days, I will toss some of them.

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO, Information 
week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model Railroading mags that 
I won't get rid of :)
My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0 
Networking, SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.  That's 
where I should clean house...

Don K


From: Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the other 
mags I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my office 
landlord to throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster for the 
building!  City recycling didn't want that much paper.


Webster

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

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Re: Patch Management

[Tony Patton]

I should start reading the full threads before replying :)

Forgot to add that I was the patch management solution at my previous job,
don't know what they use here yet.

All application updates were via vb scripts that ran at shutdown, naturally
I forgot to take copies before I left.

T

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On 28 Oct 2010 20:01, "Tom Miller"  wrote:
> kbox, but the appliance is also software distribution, remote control,
inventorying, etc.
>
 "Brumbaugh, Luke"  10/28/2010 1:54 PM
>>>
>
> Now that I have figured out how to update adobe.
> My next question is what do you guys use for patch management.
>
> What do you think of EminentWare for wsus?
> Is there something better?
>
>
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Re: Patch Management

[Tony Patton]

My first choice would be Kbox systems management appliance now from dell.
There is no difference in pricing between agents for desktops or servers.

Also gives you hardware/software inventory, application deployment, security
compliance scanning, license compliance and a lot more.

You can get it as a physical server or a VMWare appliance, but the price
difference was negligible.

Tightly integrated with appdeploy, they owned it before dell bought kace.

They have a downloadable trial available.

www.kace.com

T

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On 28 Oct 2010 18:55, "Brumbaugh, Luke" 
wrote:

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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

"Who controls the past", ran the Party slogan, "controls the future: who 
controls the present controls the past."

"WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH."


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

"If you see it in the Sun, it's so."  (except during election time)

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory voice 
that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is online...well, 
it can be changed...

:)


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our 
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack rat comes 
back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or that little 
article and it won't be out there...


From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I took the 
opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.  I realized 
that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two years (Google is 
so much easier).


Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com
b...@rolandschorr.com
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to 
Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with one 
solution... Get another bookshelf ;-)

One of these days, I will toss some of them.

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO, Information 
week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model Railroading mags that 
I won't get rid of :)
My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0 
Networking, SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.  That's 
where I should clean house...

Don K


From: Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the other 
mags I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my office 
landlord to throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster for the 
building!  City recycling didn't want that much paper.


Webster

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

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~   ~

---
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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

I haven't looked at it online.


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I'm curious - a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines.  Does 
everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only?  I used 
to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven't looked at it since it 
stopped coming in a print version.


From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory voice 
that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is online...well, 
it can be changed...

:)


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our 
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack rat comes 
back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or that little 
article and it won't be out there...


From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I took the 
opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.  I realized 
that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two years (Google is 
so much easier).


Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com
b...@rolandschorr.com
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to 
Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with one 
solution... Get another bookshelf ;-)

One of these days, I will toss some of them.

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO, Information 
week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model Railroading mags that 
I won't get rid of :)
My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0 
Networking, SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.  That's 
where I should clean house...

Don K


From: Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the other 
mags I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my office 
landlord to throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster for the 
building!  City recycling didn't want that much paper.


Webster

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

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~   ~

---
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http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
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listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
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~  

RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Maglinger, Paul]

"If you see it in the Sun, it's so."  (except during election time)

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory
voice that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is
online...well, it can be changed...

 

J

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack
rat comes back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or
that little article and it won't be out there...

 



From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I
took the opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.
I realized that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two
years (Google is so much easier).

 

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com  
b...@rolandschorr.com  

Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr 


Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr
  

 

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to
Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with
one solution... Get another bookshelf ;-)

 

One of these days, I will toss some of them.

 

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO,
Information week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model
Railroading mags that I won't get rid of :)

My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0
Networking, SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.
That's where I should clean house...

 

Don K

 



From: Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the
other mags I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my
office landlord to throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster
for the building!  City recycling didn't want that much paper.

 

 

Webster

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

 

I'm trying to changereally.

 

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

 

Information Week

CIO Decisions

Technet

Windows IT Pro

Storage

Information Security

 

And I'm sure a few others.

 

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see
ANY value in keeping them for any length of time after you've
skimmed/read them? I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling]
anything more than 3 months old, but just wanted some objective
perspective.

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~   ~

---
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http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Ralph Smith]

I'm curious - a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines.  Does
everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only?
I used to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven't looked at it
since it stopped coming in a print version.

 



From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory
voice that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is
online...well, it can be changed...

 

:-)

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack
rat comes back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or
that little article and it won't be out there...

 



From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I
took the opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.
I realized that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two
years (Google is so much easier).

 

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com  
b...@rolandschorr.com  

Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr 


Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr
  

 

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to
Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with
one solution... Get another bookshelf ;-)

 

One of these days, I will toss some of them.

 

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO,
Information week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model
Railroading mags that I won't get rid of :)

My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0
Networking, SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.
That's where I should clean house...

 

Don K

 



From: Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the
other mags I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my
office landlord to throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster
for the building!  City recycling didn't want that much paper.

 

 

Webster

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

 

I'm trying to changereally.

 

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

 

Information Week

CIO Decisions

Technet

Windows IT Pro

Storage

Information Security

 

And I'm sure a few others.

 

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see
ANY value in keeping them for any length of time after you've
skimmed/read them? I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling]
anything more than 3 months old, but just wanted some objective
perspective.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

---
To manage subscriptions click here:
http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

 

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~   ~

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~   ~

RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah...you can thank some of the administration here for wanting 
some way to easily distinguish of an email was from another Eagle employee or 
from the outside...so we ended up appending "- Eagle" to everyone's display 
name...

*eyeroll*


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

C'mon, you know your display name is confusing... :-)
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Well, considering that I "lead" a 7th & 8th grade guys group at my church, my 
wife would say the same!

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:49 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

Return? My wife would say I never left!


- Original Message -
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

Did we just return to 7th grade?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

Dear Mr. Eagle Raper,

I throw mine away most of the time, sometimes I might skim through them before 
doing so. I do have a subscription to Motortrend that never seems to end here 
at the office and I have no idea why but I do read that every month when it 
shows up.

James
- Original Message -
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:34 PM
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com



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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory voice 
that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is online...well, 
it can be changed...

:)


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
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Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
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From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our 
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack rat comes 
back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or that little 
article and it won't be out there...


From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I took the 
opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.  I realized 
that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two years (Google is 
so much easier).


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__
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b...@rolandschorr.com
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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to 
Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with one 
solution... Get another bookshelf ;-)

One of these days, I will toss some of them.

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO, Information 
week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model Railroading mags that 
I won't get rid of :)
My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0 
Networking, SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.  That's 
where I should clean house...

Don K


From: Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the other 
mags I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my office 
landlord to throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster for the 
building!  City recycling didn't want that much paper.


Webster

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

L4!

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com

-Original Message-
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

Interesting...I know more about AD/GPO's and other things than my fellow SE's, 
but I still shudder at being called an expert at anything. Proficient yes, able 
to make most things happen/work yes, expert...oh hell no! That's only slightly 
less terrifying that being called a project manager...

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

An Expert is someone who knows more than the general population about a given 
field.  (I'm the local Expert on Active Directory, but I don't know as much as 
most of you.)

A Professional is someone who gets paid to do the work. (I get paid to deal 
with Active Directory.)

These two are not mutually inclusive, or exclusive.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
To:
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Sent:
Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:04:59 -0700
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or
archive?


> No they don't, they just read an article and become an instant expert.  No
> thinking required!!
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:06 AM, John Cook  wrote:
>
> >  They have to be capable of thinking first
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:00 PM
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
> >
> >
> >
> > And this is how we get lusers thinking they know about IT...
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Cook  wrote:
> >
> > +1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men's reading room.
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:39 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
> >
> >
> >
> > I keep all my Windows IT Pro just because it's so hands on and has great
> > screenshots.  That's it.
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
> >
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > *Subject:* OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm trying to changereally.
> >
> >
> >
> > I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
> >
> >
> >
> > Information Week
> >
> > CIO Decisions
> >
> > Technet
> >
> > Windows IT Pro
> >
> > Storage
> >
> > Information Security
> >
> >
> >
> > And I'm sure a few others.
> >
> >
> >
> > For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see
> ANY
> > value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read
> them?
> > I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3
> months
> > old, but just wanted some objective perspective.
> >
> > Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> >
> >
> > Technology Coordinator
> > Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> >
> > *
> > *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> > *www.eaglemds.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  --
> >
> > Any medical information contained in this electronic message is
> > CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to
> > view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This
> > electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or
> > legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s)
> > and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an
> intended
> > recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete
> > this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this
> > message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance
> on
> > the information that it contains.
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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Don Kuhlman]

Good one !  That's about what I did - except the one bookshelf in the study 
turned into 3 in the basement...

 




From: Jacob 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:02:55 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?


In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to 
Windows 
3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with one solution… 
Get another bookshelf ;-)
 
One of these days, I will toss some of them.
 
From:Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
 
I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO, Information 
week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model Railroading mags that 
I 
won't get rid of :)
My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0 
Networking, 
SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.  That's where I should 
clean house...
 
Don K
 



From:Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the other 
mags 
I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my office landlord to 
throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster for the building!  City 
recycling didn’t want that much paper.
 
 
Webster
 
From:Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
 
Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.
 
I’m trying to change….really.
 
I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
 
Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security
 
And I’m sure a few others.
 
For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read them? 
I’m 
leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, but 
just wanted some objective perspective.
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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Don Kuhlman]

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our 
fingertips 
online for however long we will need it, but then the pack rat comes back and 
whispers, you know, you may need this little book or that little article and it 
won't be out there...





From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?


I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I took the 
opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.  I realized 
that 
I’d rarely opened any of those books in the previous two years (Google is so 
much easier).
 
 
Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com
b...@rolandschorr.com
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr
 
From:Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
 
In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to 
Windows 
3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with one solution… 
Get another bookshelf ;-)
 
One of these days, I will toss some of them.
 
From:Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
 
I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO, Information 
week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model Railroading mags that 
I 
won't get rid of :)
My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0 
Networking, 
SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.  That's where I should 
clean house...
 
Don K
 



From:Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the other 
mags 
I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my office landlord to 
throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster for the building!  City 
recycling didn’t want that much paper.
 
 
Webster
 
From:Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
 
Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.
 
I’m trying to change….really.
 
I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
 
Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security
 
And I’m sure a few others.
 
For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read them? 
I’m 
leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, but 
just wanted some objective perspective.
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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Ben Schorr]

I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I took the 
opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.  I realized 
that I’d rarely opened any of those books in the previous two years (Google is 
so much easier).

 

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com  
b...@rolandschorr.com  

Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr  

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr 
  

 

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to 
Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with one 
solution… Get another bookshelf ;-)

 

One of these days, I will toss some of them.

 

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO, Information 
week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model Railroading mags that 
I won't get rid of :)

My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0 
Networking, SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.  That's 
where I should clean house...

 

Don K

 



From: Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the other 
mags I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my office 
landlord to throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster for the 
building!  City recycling didn’t want that much paper.

 

 

Webster

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.

 

I’m trying to change….really.

 

I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

 

Information Week

CIO Decisions

Technet

Windows IT Pro

Storage

Information Security

 

And I’m sure a few others.

 

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read them? 
I’m leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

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Re: Adobe acrobat reader updates

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Mike Gill  wrote:
> Oh, and know that PDF viewing in browsers is broken if you install or deploy
> Reader or Acrobat by MSI.

  PDF viewing in browsers is broken, period.

  Disable all that crap for a better browsing experience *and* a
better PDF viewing experience.  (It also happened to mitigate one of
their security vulnerabilities once, although that was just luck.)

-- Ben

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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Jacob]

In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to 
Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with one 
solution… Get another bookshelf ;-)

 

One of these days, I will toss some of them.

 

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO, Information 
week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model Railroading mags that 
I won't get rid of :)

My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0 
Networking, SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.  That's 
where I should clean house...

 

Don K

 

  _  

From: Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the other 
mags I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my office 
landlord to throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster for the 
building!  City recycling didn’t want that much paper.

 

 

Webster

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.

 

I’m trying to change….really.

 

I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

 

Information Week

CIO Decisions

Technet

Windows IT Pro

Storage

Information Security

 

And I’m sure a few others.

 

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read them? 
I’m leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

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Re: Adobe acrobat reader updates

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Mike Gill  wrote:
> This will extract the MSI needed for an administrative install to the folder
> Reader9.4 w/o running setup.exe:

  You can download MSIs directly from the Adobe FTP site, e.g.:

ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/win/9.x/9.4.0/en_US/

-- Ben

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RE: Security Advisory for Adobe Flash Player, Adobe Reader and Acrobat

[Sam Cayze]

I was thinking the same thing!

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Security Advisory for Adobe Flash Player, Adobe Reader and
Acrobat

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:
> http://www.adobe.com/support/security/advisories/apsa10-05.html
>
> Workaround included in article.

  Sounds like the workaround only disables Flash in Acrobat; it doesn't
help Flash in the browser, right?

  (Tell me again why we need Flash in PDFs?)

-- Ben

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Re: Security Advisory for Adobe Flash Player, Adobe Reader and Acrobat

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:
> http://www.adobe.com/support/security/advisories/apsa10-05.html
>
> Workaround included in article.

  Sounds like the workaround only disables Flash in Acrobat; it
doesn't help Flash in the browser, right?

  (Tell me again why we need Flash in PDFs?)

-- Ben

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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Brian Desmond]

How do you index all the paper? You're never going to be able to figure out 
which one has content you would find relevant at the moment. Is there anything 
that isn't online also anymore?

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c   - 312.731.3132

From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I used to get 4-5 a week, all free rags, so they were mostly ads. When I found 
an article that was noteworthy, I just either ripped it out or grabbed the 
article online, if available.



Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
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RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

[Crawford, Scott]

Agreed.  I dropped shockwave for a trial.  That lasted about a week :)

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

Cool, that is the way I have been doing it. Tyvm.

As for shockwave, I can't begin to describe the horrors of crappy elementary 
'educational' software and what they require. Shockwave being one of those 
horrors.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

Flash and shock don't need config for deployment, grab the msi's and deploy.
Also, forget about shock, show me a site that uses that nowadays anyway.

http://www.adobe.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_msi
http://www.adobe.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_pl_msi
http://www.adobe.com/products/shockwaveplayer/shwv_distribution3.html



From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

Thanks Mike, appreciate that.

Probably too much to hope for that there is a similar easy tool for Flash and 
Shockwave?

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

Just to be extra helpful the tool he's referring to is here:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3993

Among to tweaks you can do to Reader, one of them is to remove previous 
versions if they are found automatically. 

This will extract the MSI needed for an administrative install to the folder 
Reader9.4 w/o running setup.exe:

AdbeRdr940_en_US.exe -nos_o"Reader9.4" -nos_ne

Now you can create an administrative install point for deployment and customize 
(create the MST) using the tool above.

--
Mike Gill

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

You should find you can deploy the MSI via Group Policy and it'll take care of 
everything for you.

Take a look at the Adobe Customization Tool as well as you can disable things 
like checking for updates.

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: 28 October 2010 13:01
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: Miller, Bob
Subject: Adobe acrobat reader updates

I have been tasks by the head company to update adobe reader etc.  I am reading 
remove all old versions, then install new.  Updates are by default downloaded. 
And that this is one big headache, Any tips, tricks, words of wisdom?   I do 
not have sms, just wsus (windows updates).


Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Kim Longenbaugh]

What's she say about the eagle thing?

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Well, considering that I "lead" a 7th & 8th grade guys group at my
church, my wife would say the same!

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Return? My wife would say I never left!

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle   

To: NT System Admin Issues
  

Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:46 PM

Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Did we just return to 7th grade?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com  
www.eaglemds.com   



From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Dear Mr. Eagle Raper,

 

I throw mine away most of the time, sometimes I might skim
through them before doing so. I do have a subscription to Motortrend
that never seems to end here at the office and I have no idea why but I
do read that every month when it shows up.

 

James

- Original Message - 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
  

To: NT System Admin Issues
  

Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:34 PM

Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack
rat.

 

I'm trying to changereally.

 

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

 

Information Week

CIO Decisions

Technet

Windows IT Pro

Storage

Information Security

 

And I'm sure a few others.

 

For those of you that subscribe to and read these
magazines, do you see ANY value in keeping them for any length of time
after you've skimmed/read them? I'm leaning toward pitching [read:
recycling] anything more than 3 months old, but just wanted some
objective perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Jonathan Link]

C'mon, you know your display name is confusing... :-)

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

>  Well, considering that I “lead” a 7th & 8th grade guys group at my
> church, my wife would say the same!
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>  --
>
> *From:* James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:49 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> Return? My wife would say I never left!
>
>
>
>
>
>  - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues 
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:46 PM
>
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> Did we just return to 7th grade?
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>  --
>
> *From:* James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:17 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> Dear Mr. Eagle Raper,
>
>
>
> I throw mine away most of the time, sometimes I might skim through them
> before doing so. I do have a subscription to Motortrend that never seems to
> end here at the office and I have no idea why but I do read that every month
> when it shows up.
>
>
>
> James
>
>  - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues 
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:34 PM
>
> *Subject:* OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.
>
>
>
> I’m trying to change….really.
>
>
>
> I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
>
>
>
> Information Week
>
> CIO Decisions
>
> Technet
>
> Windows IT Pro
>
> Storage
>
> Information Security
>
>
>
> And I’m sure a few others.
>
>
>
> For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY
> value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read them?
> I’m leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months
> old, but just wanted some objective perspective.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>
>
>
>
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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[David Lum]

Interesting...I know more about AD/GPO's and other things than my fellow SE's, 
but I still shudder at being called an expert at anything. Proficient yes, able 
to make most things happen/work yes, expert...oh hell no! That's only slightly 
less terrifying that being called a project manager...

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

An Expert is someone who knows more than the general population about a given 
field.  (I'm the local Expert on Active Directory, but I don't know as much as 
most of you.)

A Professional is someone who gets paid to do the work. (I get paid to deal 
with Active Directory.)

These two are not mutually inclusive, or exclusive.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
To:
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Sent:
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Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or
archive?


> No they don't, they just read an article and become an instant expert.  No
> thinking required!!
> 
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:06 AM, John Cook  wrote:
> 
> >  They have to be capable of thinking first……..
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:00 PM
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
> >
> >
> >
> > And this is how we get lusers thinking they know about IT...
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Cook  wrote:
> >
> > +1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men’s reading room.
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:39 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
> >
> >
> >
> > I keep all my Windows IT Pro just because it’s so hands on and has great
> > screenshots.  That’s it.
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
> >
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > *Subject:* OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.
> >
> >
> >
> > I’m trying to change….really.
> >
> >
> >
> > I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
> >
> >
> >
> > Information Week
> >
> > CIO Decisions
> >
> > Technet
> >
> > Windows IT Pro
> >
> > Storage
> >
> > Information Security
> >
> >
> >
> > And I’m sure a few others.
> >
> >
> >
> > For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see
> ANY
> > value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read
> them?
> > I’m leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3
> months
> > old, but just wanted some objective perspective.
> >
> > Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> >
> >
> > Technology Coordinator
> > Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> >
> > *
> > *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> > *www.eaglemds.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Windows 2008 password policies

[Brian Desmond]

Your consultants are wrong. The Joeware tool is also way easier than trying to 
use ADSI Edit to build these things.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c   - 312.731.3132

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 2008 password policies

I think they are full of it. Although I admit to the possibility that they've 
discovered something that I just didn't know about.

Joeware.net has a free tool for dealing with pso's. recommended.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 2008 password policies

I know Windows 2008 AD supports fine-grained password policies, I also thought 
this was done through adsiedit voodoo such as documented here 
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc770842%28WS.10%29.aspx). I have a 
team of consultants on site who are telling me that fine-grained password 
policies can simply be set by blocking GPO inheritance on the Citrix servers OU 
(which is where all the computers sit that all our users log on to) and linking 
a new GPO to the OU which will override the default domain policy. Are they 
right, or am I?

We are simply looking at disabling the password complexity requirement for the 
test users in the new domain, and they won't let me have an account at the 
minute to test things (maybe they are worried I might find some errors), which 
is why I am having to ask.

TIA,



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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Well, considering that I "lead" a 7th & 8th grade guys group at my church, my 
wife would say the same!

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

Return? My wife would say I never left!


- Original Message -
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

Did we just return to 7th grade?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

Dear Mr. Eagle Raper,

I throw mine away most of the time, sometimes I might skim through them before 
doing so. I do have a subscription to Motortrend that never seems to end here 
at the office and I have no idea why but I do read that every month when it 
shows up.

James
- Original Message -
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:34 PM
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>



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RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

[Webster]

You can also look at StealthPuppy's site for more info on deploying Adobe
stuff.  Stealthpuppy.com

 

 

Webster

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

 

I'd add:

Disable Auto-Updates (If you stay on top of it yourself)

Disable Javascript (Lots of security issues)

Disable Browser Integration (It just sucks)

Disable Create Desktop Shortcut.  


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Security Advisory for Adobe Flash Player, Adobe Reader and Acrobat

[Sam Cayze]

http://www.adobe.com/support/security/advisories/apsa10-05.html 

Workaround included in article.

 

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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[James Kerr]

Return? My wife would say I never left!


  - Original Message - 
  From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:46 PM
  Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?


  Did we just return to 7th grade?

  Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
  Technology Coordinator
  Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
  jra...@eaglemds.com
  www.eaglemds.com 


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  From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:17 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

   

  Dear Mr. Eagle Raper,

   

  I throw mine away most of the time, sometimes I might skim through them 
before doing so. I do have a subscription to Motortrend that never seems to end 
here at the office and I have no idea why but I do read that every month when 
it shows up.

   

  James

- Original Message - 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 

To: NT System Admin Issues 

Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:34 PM

Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

 

I'm trying to change..really.

 

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

 

Information Week

CIO Decisions

Technet

Windows IT Pro

Storage

Information Security

 

And I'm sure a few others.

 

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 

 

 




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Re: Win 7 file replication

[William Robbins]

Along those lines, but on the Microsoft side look at Live Mesh.  They also
give you 5GB free instead of 2.

 - WJR


On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 14:33, Mike Gill  wrote:

> I would say Dropbox. I suppose you could change the location of My Doc’s on
> machine A and point it to the location of My Doc’s on machine B. Then make
> the folder available offline on machine A. That’s pretty much how folder
> redirection in group policy works.
>
> --
> Mike Gill
>
>
>
> *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:00 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Win 7 file replication
>
>
>
> He has a large number of files under my \my documents folder and wants to
> synchronize them to his secondary PC.
>
>
>
> Tom
>
> >>> "Matthew W. Ross"  10/28/2010 2:57 PM >>>
> He just wants to sync two folders between two computers?
>
> Funny, I think robocopy and synctoy will be your 1st and 2nd choice.
>
> Other ideas:
> DFS-R (on 2 servers)
> something like Dropbox
>
> What is he trying to accomplish?
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
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> Subject: Win 7 file replication
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>
> > Folks,
> >
> > A colleague here asked if there was some built-in way to replicate files
> > from one of his Win 7 PCs to his other PC (laptop to desktop for
> example).
> > Aside from robocopy or synctoy, is there a built-in program for this in
> Win
> > 7?
> >
> > Thanks,
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RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

[Sam Cayze]

I'd add:

Disable Auto-Updates (If you stay on top of it yourself)

Disable Javascript (Lots of security issues)

Disable Browser Integration (It just sucks)

Disable Create Desktop Shortcut.  


Sam

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

 

Just to be extra helpful the tool he's referring to is here:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3993

 

Among to tweaks you can do to Reader, one of them is to remove previous
versions if they are found automatically. 

 

This will extract the MSI needed for an administrative install to the
folder Reader9.4 w/o running setup.exe:

 

AdbeRdr940_en_US.exe -nos_o"Reader9.4" -nos_ne

 

Now you can create an administrative install point for deployment and
customize (create the MST) using the tool above.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

 

You should find you can deploy the MSI via Group Policy and it'll take
care of everything for you.


Take a look at the Adobe Customization Tool as well as you can disable
things like checking for updates.

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
Sent: 28 October 2010 13:01
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: Miller, Bob
Subject: Adobe acrobat reader updates

 

I have been tasks by the head company to update adobe reader etc.  I am
reading remove all old versions, then install new.  Updates are by
default downloaded. And that this is one big headache,

Any tips, tricks, words of wisdom?   I do not have sms, just wsus
(windows updates).

 

 

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

 



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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Did we just return to 7th grade?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

Dear Mr. Eagle Raper,

I throw mine away most of the time, sometimes I might skim through them before 
doing so. I do have a subscription to Motortrend that never seems to end here 
at the office and I have no idea why but I do read that every month when it 
shows up.

James
- Original Message -
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:34 PM
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>



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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

*WOW*

I believe Jim posted a link that might prove useful for you! :)


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the other 
mags I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my office 
landlord to throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster for the 
building!  City recycling didn't want that much paper.


Webster

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Hahahahaha

Too funny, Jim. I was thinking about that when I typed this up.


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Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

You can get on TV and they will help you throw them away. Less work for you.

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/hoarding-buried-alive/


From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
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RE: Win 7 file replication

[Mike Gill]

I would say Dropbox. I suppose you could change the location of My Doc's on
machine A and point it to the location of My Doc's on machine B. Then make
the folder available offline on machine A. That's pretty much how folder
redirection in group policy works.

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 7 file replication

 

He has a large number of files under my \my documents folder and wants to
synchronize them to his secondary PC.

 

Tom

>>> "Matthew W. Ross"  10/28/2010 2:57 PM >>>
He just wants to sync two folders between two computers?

Funny, I think robocopy and synctoy will be your 1st and 2nd choice.

Other ideas:
DFS-R (on 2 servers)
something like Dropbox

What is he trying to accomplish?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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11:54:03 -0700
Subject: Win 7 file replication


> Folks,
>  
> A colleague here asked if there was some built-in way to replicate files
> from one of his Win 7 PCs to his other PC (laptop to desktop for example).

> Aside from robocopy or synctoy, is there a built-in program for this in
Win
> 7?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
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RE: [maybe spam] AV (again)

[Alex Eckelberry]

Dear Lord.  A Sunbelt/GFI salesperson who won't contact you?

That's something I need to look into.

Alex



From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [maybe spam] AV (again)

Patience, Grasshopper.

From: Larry Rappaport [mailto:r...@lmr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [maybe spam] AV (again)


I know this has been brought up numerous times, but...

I have a very small network.  Windows Server 2003 & 4 workstations running 
Windows XP Pro sp3, Windows & Business Pro (x86), and Windows 7 Ulimate on a 
Lenovo X301 laptop.  The server is connected to the internet through a 
Sonicwall TZ-170 hardware firewall to a SDSL modem.  I have used AVG Network 
edition on all machines to protect the machines.  Recently we had one 
workstation (Windows XP Pro sp3) get infected with the SmithFraud trojan and 
it's been an incredible hassle to get rid of it.  We want to switch our AV 
stuff, since AVG never caught it and still cannot get rid of it.  After a bit 
of research, it looks like Vipre is the one to go with, but after several 
attempts, I can't even get in touch with them.  Their sales line remains 
unanswered and cannot even receive messages.  It doesn't sound like they want 
to do business.  I need some advice - what would you folks recommend?  Thanks.

--

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RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

[Mike Gill]

Oh, and know that PDF viewing in browsers is broken if you install or deploy
Reader or Acrobat by MSI. You can disable this feature in the customization
tool, or apply the following registry tweaks to the transform file you
create. Windows 64bit will require a separate MST due to the path for
Program Files being different:

 

Reader x86:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\acrobat\DefaultIcon]

@="C:\\Program Files\\Adobe\\Reader 9.0\\Reader\\AcroRd32.exe\"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\acrobat\shell\open\command]

@="\"c:\\Program Files\\Adobe\\Reader 9.0\\Reader\\AcroRd32.exe\" /u \"%1\""

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\SOFTWARE\Adobe\Acrobat\Exe]

@="\"C:\\Program Files\\Adobe\\Reader 9.0\\Reader\\AcroRd32.exe\""

 

Reader x64:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\acrobat\DefaultIcon]

@="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Adobe\\Reader 9.0\\Reader\\AcroRd32.exe\"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\acrobat\shell\open\command]

@="\"c:\\Program Files (x86)\\Adobe\\Reader 9.0\\Reader\\AcroRd32.exe\" /u
\"%1\""

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\SOFTWARE\Adobe\Acrobat\Exe]

@="\"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Adobe\\Reader 9.0\\Reader\\AcroRd32.exe\""

 

Acrobat x86:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\acrobat\DefaultIcon]

@="C:\\Program Files\\Adobe\\Acrobat 9.0\\Acrobat\\Acrobat.exe\"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\acrobat\shell\open\command]

@="\"c:\\Program Files\\Adobe\\Acrobat 9.0\\Acrobat\\Acrobat.exe\" /u
\"%1\""

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\SOFTWARE\Adobe\Acrobat\Exe]

@="\"C:\\Program Files\\Adobe\\Acrobat 9.0\\Acrobat\\Acrobat.exe\""

 

Acrobat x64:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\acrobat\DefaultIcon]

@="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Adobe\\Acrobat 9.0\\Acrobat\\Acrobat.exe\"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\acrobat\shell\open\command]

@="\"c:\\Program Files (x86)\\Adobe\\Acrobat 9.0\\Acrobat\\Acrobat.exe\" /u
\"%1\""

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\SOFTWARE\Adobe\Acrobat\Exe]

@="\"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Adobe\\Acrobat 9.0\\Acrobat\\Acrobat.exe\""

 

If you want my MST ping me offlist. I just removed what most people here
would complain about and applied the above registry tweaks. You can open it
in the customization tool and make adjustments still.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

 

Just to be extra helpful the tool he's referring to is here:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3993

 

Among to tweaks you can do to Reader, one of them is to remove previous
versions if they are found automatically. 

 

This will extract the MSI needed for an administrative install to the folder
Reader9.4 w/o running setup.exe:

 

AdbeRdr940_en_US.exe -nos_o"Reader9.4" -nos_ne

 

Now you can create an administrative install point for deployment and
customize (create the MST) using the tool above.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

 

You should find you can deploy the MSI via Group Policy and it'll take care
of everything for you.


Take a look at the Adobe Customization Tool as well as you can disable
things like checking for updates.

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
Sent: 28 October 2010 13:01
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: Miller, Bob
Subject: Adobe acrobat reader updates

 

I have been tasks by the head company to update adobe reader etc.  I am
reading remove all old versions, then install new.  Updates are by default
downloaded. And that this is one big headache,

Any tips, tricks, words of wisdom?   I do not have sms, just wsus (windows
updates).

 

 

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

 



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RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

[Kennedy, Jim]

Cool, that is the way I have been doing it. Tyvm.

As for shockwave, I can't begin to describe the horrors of crappy elementary 
'educational' software and what they require. Shockwave being one of those 
horrors.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

Flash and shock don't need config for deployment, grab the msi's and deploy.
Also, forget about shock, show me a site that uses that nowadays anyway.

http://www.adobe.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_msi
http://www.adobe.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_pl_msi
http://www.adobe.com/products/shockwaveplayer/shwv_distribution3.html



From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

Thanks Mike, appreciate that.

Probably too much to hope for that there is a similar easy tool for Flash and 
Shockwave?

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

Just to be extra helpful the tool he's referring to is here:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3993

Among to tweaks you can do to Reader, one of them is to remove previous 
versions if they are found automatically. 

This will extract the MSI needed for an administrative install to the folder 
Reader9.4 w/o running setup.exe:

AdbeRdr940_en_US.exe -nos_o"Reader9.4" -nos_ne

Now you can create an administrative install point for deployment and customize 
(create the MST) using the tool above.

--
Mike Gill

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

You should find you can deploy the MSI via Group Policy and it'll take care of 
everything for you.

Take a look at the Adobe Customization Tool as well as you can disable things 
like checking for updates.

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: 28 October 2010 13:01
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: Miller, Bob
Subject: Adobe acrobat reader updates

I have been tasks by the head company to update adobe reader etc.  I am reading 
remove all old versions, then install new.  Updates are by default downloaded. 
And that this is one big headache, Any tips, tricks, words of wisdom?   I do 
not have sms, just wsus (windows updates).


Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
Ph:(614) 659-1736



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RE: Patch Management

[pdw1914]

+1
 


From: david@nwea.org
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:24:27 -0700
Subject: RE: Patch Management






Shavlik. Haven’t tried EminentWare.
 
Dave
 


From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Patch Management
 
Now that I have figured out how to update adobe.
My next question is what do you guys use for patch management.
 
What do you think of EminentWare for wsus?
Is there something better?
 
 
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Butler Animal Health Supply
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RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

[Joseph L. Casale]

Flash and shock don't need config for deployment, grab the msi's and deploy.
Also, forget about shock, show me a site that uses that nowadays anyway.

http://www.adobe.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_msi
http://www.adobe.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_pl_msi
http://www.adobe.com/products/shockwaveplayer/shwv_distribution3.html



From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

Thanks Mike, appreciate that.

Probably too much to hope for that there is a similar easy tool for Flash and 
Shockwave?

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

Just to be extra helpful the tool he's referring to is here:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3993

Among to tweaks you can do to Reader, one of them is to remove previous 
versions if they are found automatically. 

This will extract the MSI needed for an administrative install to the folder 
Reader9.4 w/o running setup.exe:

AdbeRdr940_en_US.exe -nos_o"Reader9.4" -nos_ne

Now you can create an administrative install point for deployment and customize 
(create the MST) using the tool above.

-- 
Mike Gill

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

You should find you can deploy the MSI via Group Policy and it'll take care of 
everything for you.

Take a look at the Adobe Customization Tool as well as you can disable things 
like checking for updates.

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
Sent: 28 October 2010 13:01
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: Miller, Bob
Subject: Adobe acrobat reader updates

I have been tasks by the head company to update adobe reader etc.  I am reading 
remove all old versions, then install new.  Updates are by default downloaded. 
And that this is one big headache,
Any tips, tricks, words of wisdom?   I do not have sms, just wsus (windows 
updates).


Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
Ph:(614) 659-1736



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Re: Win 7 file replication

[William Robbins]

The only thing built-in is Sync Center, but it's just the newest variation
of Offline Files.  Typically only works with file shares, but it may work if
the stations shared out a folder and then you set it to available
off-line...but I think that may set off some kind of infinite loop of
synchronization.

Lots of 3rd party stuff to do this, as you've already mentioned.

 - WJR


On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 13:54, Tom Miller  wrote:

>  Folks,
>
> A colleague here asked if there was some built-in way to replicate files
> from one of his Win 7 PCs to his other PC (laptop to desktop for example).
> Aside from robocopy or synctoy, is there a built-in program for this in Win
> 7?
>
> Thanks,
>
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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Don Guyer]

Me too.

 

I can hear PETA alarms going off all over the place.

 

J

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

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From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I have to admit, I had to read your salutation a couple of times to make
sure I wasn't taking it out of context

 

- Sean

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:16 AM, James Kerr 
wrote:

Dear Mr. Eagle Raper,

 

I throw mine away most of the time, sometimes I might skim through them
before doing so. I do have a subscription to Motortrend that never seems
to end here at the office and I have no idea why but I do read that
every month when it shows up.

 

James

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From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle   

To: NT System Admin Issues
  

Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:34 PM

Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

 

I'm trying to changereally.

 

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

 

Information Week

CIO Decisions

Technet

Windows IT Pro

Storage

Information Security

 

And I'm sure a few others.

 

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do
you see ANY value in keeping them for any length of time after you've
skimmed/read them? I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling]
anything more than 3 months old, but just wanted some objective
perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 

 

 



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RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain Controller Eventlogs

[Free, Bob]

If your environment is that big how can they look at multiple DCs in
real time and correlate them? 

 

Maybe I don't understand your requirements but it seems like you want to
ship the logs real-time to a SIEM or log management tool managed by the
security team or MSSP, that is a far better way to do it than to grant
access to the logs directly. 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain
Controller Eventlogs

 

Its for Vericept, and they need to read the logs in realtime to
correlate what is seen on the network with a user. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Question on Granting service account read access to Domain
Controller Eventlogs

 

Could you not just setup a job to copy the security.evtx file to
somewhere else and let them access that?



 

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:48 AM, James Rankin 
wrote:

Can you control this by NTFS access to the .evt file itself?



On 27 October 2010 16:31, Ziots, Edward  wrote:

Running a Windows 2008 R2 DFL/FFL domain, security team needs a service
account to have read only access to the Security Eventlog accordingly.
Is there a way via the Default Domain Controllers Policy to Grant this,
or maybe a users right in Windows 2008 R2 accordingly?

 

Z

 

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RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

[Kennedy, Jim]

Thanks Mike, appreciate that.

Probably too much to hope for that there is a similar easy tool for Flash and 
Shockwave?

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

Just to be extra helpful the tool he's referring to is here:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3993

Among to tweaks you can do to Reader, one of them is to remove previous 
versions if they are found automatically.

This will extract the MSI needed for an administrative install to the folder 
Reader9.4 w/o running setup.exe:

AdbeRdr940_en_US.exe -nos_o"Reader9.4" -nos_ne

Now you can create an administrative install point for deployment and customize 
(create the MST) using the tool above.

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From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

You should find you can deploy the MSI via Group Policy and it'll take care of 
everything for you.

Take a look at the Adobe Customization Tool as well as you can disable things 
like checking for updates.

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: 28 October 2010 13:01
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: Miller, Bob
Subject: Adobe acrobat reader updates

I have been tasks by the head company to update adobe reader etc.  I am reading 
remove all old versions, then install new.  Updates are by default downloaded. 
And that this is one big headache,
Any tips, tricks, words of wisdom?   I do not have sms, just wsus (windows 
updates).


Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Sean Martin]

I have to admit, I had to read your salutation a couple of times to make
sure I wasn't taking it out of context

- Sean

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:16 AM, James Kerr  wrote:

>  Dear Mr. Eagle Raper,
>
> I throw mine away most of the time, sometimes I might skim through them
> before doing so. I do have a subscription to Motortrend that never seems to
> end here at the office and I have no idea why but I do read that every month
> when it shows up.
>
> James
>
>  - Original Message -
> *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues 
>  *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:34 PM
> *Subject:* OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>  Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.
>
>
>
> I’m trying to change….really.
>
>
>
> I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
>
>
>
> Information Week
>
> CIO Decisions
>
> Technet
>
> Windows IT Pro
>
> Storage
>
> Information Security
>
>
>
> And I’m sure a few others.
>
>
>
> For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY
> value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read them?
> I’m leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months
> old, but just wanted some objective perspective.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>
>
>
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Re: Patch Management

[Tom Miller]

kbox, but the appliance is also software distribution, remote control, 
inventorying, etc.  

>>> "Brumbaugh, Luke"  10/28/2010 1:54 PM >>>

Now that I have figured out how to update adobe.
My next question is what do you guys use for patch management.
 
What do you think of EminentWare for wsus?
Is there something better?
 
 
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Re: Win 7 file replication

[Tom Miller]

He has a large number of files under my \my documents folder and wants to 
synchronize them to his secondary PC.
 
Tom

>>> "Matthew W. Ross"  10/28/2010 2:57 PM >>>
He just wants to sync two folders between two computers?

Funny, I think robocopy and synctoy will be your 1st and 2nd choice.

Other ideas:
DFS-R (on 2 servers)
something like Dropbox

What is he trying to accomplish?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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Sent: Thu, 28 Oct 2010
11:54:03 -0700
Subject: Win 7 file replication


> Folks,
>  
> A colleague here asked if there was some built-in way to replicate files
> from one of his Win 7 PCs to his other PC (laptop to desktop for example). 
> Aside from robocopy or synctoy, is there a built-in program for this in Win
> 7?
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> Thanks,
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RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

[Mike Gill]

Just to be extra helpful the tool he's referring to is here:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3993

 

Among to tweaks you can do to Reader, one of them is to remove previous
versions if they are found automatically. 

 

This will extract the MSI needed for an administrative install to the folder
Reader9.4 w/o running setup.exe:

 

AdbeRdr940_en_US.exe -nos_o"Reader9.4" -nos_ne

 

Now you can create an administrative install point for deployment and
customize (create the MST) using the tool above.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe acrobat reader updates

 

You should find you can deploy the MSI via Group Policy and it'll take care
of everything for you.


Take a look at the Adobe Customization Tool as well as you can disable
things like checking for updates.

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
Sent: 28 October 2010 13:01
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: Miller, Bob
Subject: Adobe acrobat reader updates

 

I have been tasks by the head company to update adobe reader etc.  I am
reading remove all old versions, then install new.  Updates are by default
downloaded. And that this is one big headache,

Any tips, tricks, words of wisdom?   I do not have sms, just wsus (windows
updates).

 

 

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

 



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Re: Win 7 file replication

[Matthew W. Ross]

He just wants to sync two folders between two computers?

Funny, I think robocopy and synctoy will be your 1st and 2nd choice.

Other ideas:
DFS-R (on 2 servers)
something like Dropbox

What is he trying to accomplish?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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To: NT System Admin Issues
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Sent: Thu, 28 Oct 2010
11:54:03 -0700
Subject: Win 7 file replication


> Folks,
>  
> A colleague here asked if there was some built-in way to replicate files
> from one of his Win 7 PCs to his other PC (laptop to desktop for example). 
> Aside from robocopy or synctoy, is there a built-in program for this in Win
> 7?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
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Win 7 file replication

[Tom Miller]

Folks,
 
A colleague here asked if there was some built-in way to replicate files from 
one of his Win 7 PCs to his other PC (laptop to desktop for example).  Aside 
from robocopy or synctoy, is there a built-in program for this in Win 7?
 
Thanks,
 

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RE: Patch Management

[Ziots, Edward]

+1 for Shavlik, working through the pain in V 7.6.0 at the moment, but
its getting better, next step is getting the agents functioning as
expected. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch Management

 

Shavlik. Haven't tried EminentWare.

 

Dave

 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Patch Management

 

Now that I have figured out how to update adobe.

My next question is what do you guys use for patch management.

 

What do you think of EminentWare for wsus?

Is there something better?

 

 

Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736

 



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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Jonathan Link]

Well so am I.  My coworkers and I get along quite well. :-)

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:30 PM, John Cook  wrote:

>  They avoid my boss like the plague and there’s only one person above him
> – the CEO. Besides, I’m a very approachable know it all!
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:22 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> You presume that they talk to you and not someone above your pay grade...
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:13 PM, John Cook  wrote:
>
> At which time I quiz them and expose their cluelessness! It’s in my job
> description!
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:05 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> No they don't, they just read an article and become an instant expert.  No
> thinking required!!
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:06 AM, John Cook  wrote:
>
> They have to be capable of thinking first……..
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:00 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> And this is how we get lusers thinking they know about IT...
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Cook  wrote:
>
> +1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men’s reading room.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:39 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> I keep all my Windows IT Pro just because it’s so hands on and has great
> screenshots.  That’s it.
>
>
>
> *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.
>
>
>
> I’m trying to change….really.
>
>
>
> I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
>
>
>
> Information Week
>
> CIO Decisions
>
> Technet
>
> Windows IT Pro
>
> Storage
>
> Information Security
>
>
>
> And I’m sure a few others.
>
>
>
> For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY
> value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read them?
> I’m leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months
> old, but just wanted some objective perspective.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>
>
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
>
> *
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>
>
>
>
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RE: Patch Management

[David Lum]

Shavlik. Haven't tried EminentWare.

Dave

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Patch Management

Now that I have figured out how to update adobe.
My next question is what do you guys use for patch management.

What do you think of EminentWare for wsus?
Is there something better?


Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
Ph:(614) 659-1736



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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Jonathan Link]

You presume that they talk to you and not someone above your pay grade...

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:13 PM, John Cook  wrote:

>  At which time I quiz them and expose their cluelessness! It’s in my job
> description!
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:05 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> No they don't, they just read an article and become an instant expert.  No
> thinking required!!
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:06 AM, John Cook  wrote:
>
> They have to be capable of thinking first……..
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:00 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> And this is how we get lusers thinking they know about IT...
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Cook  wrote:
>
> +1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men’s reading room.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:39 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> I keep all my Windows IT Pro just because it’s so hands on and has great
> screenshots.  That’s it.
>
>
>
> *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.
>
>
>
> I’m trying to change….really.
>
>
>
> I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
>
>
>
> Information Week
>
> CIO Decisions
>
> Technet
>
> Windows IT Pro
>
> Storage
>
> Information Security
>
>
>
> And I’m sure a few others.
>
>
>
> For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY
> value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read them?
> I’m leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months
> old, but just wanted some objective perspective.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>
>
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
>
> *
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
> Any medical information contained in this electronic message is
> CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to
> view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This
> electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or
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> and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended
> recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete
> this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this
> message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on
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>
>
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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Matthew W. Ross]

An Expert is someone who knows more than the general population about a given 
field.  (I'm the local Expert on Active Directory, but I don't know as much as 
most of you.)

A Professional is someone who gets paid to do the work. (I get paid to deal 
with Active Directory.)

These two are not mutually inclusive, or exclusive.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
To:
NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent:
Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:04:59 -0700
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or
archive?


> No they don't, they just read an article and become an instant expert.  No
> thinking required!!
> 
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:06 AM, John Cook  wrote:
> 
> >  They have to be capable of thinking first……..
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:00 PM
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
> >
> >
> >
> > And this is how we get lusers thinking they know about IT...
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Cook  wrote:
> >
> > +1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men’s reading room.
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:39 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
> >
> >
> >
> > I keep all my Windows IT Pro just because it’s so hands on and has great
> > screenshots.  That’s it.
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
> >
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > *Subject:* OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.
> >
> >
> >
> > I’m trying to change….really.
> >
> >
> >
> > I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
> >
> >
> >
> > Information Week
> >
> > CIO Decisions
> >
> > Technet
> >
> > Windows IT Pro
> >
> > Storage
> >
> > Information Security
> >
> >
> >
> > And I’m sure a few others.
> >
> >
> >
> > For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see
> ANY
> > value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read
> them?
> > I’m leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3
> months
> > old, but just wanted some objective perspective.
> >
> > Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> >
> >
> > Technology Coordinator
> > Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> >
> > *
> > *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> > *www.eaglemds.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  --
> >
> > Any medical information contained in this electronic message is
> > CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to
> > view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This
> > electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or
> > legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s)
> > and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an
> intended
> > recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete
> > this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this
> > message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance
> on
> > the information that it contains.
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> this
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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Michael B. Smith]

I can't believe you went THERE.


From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

Paper cuts are just brutal. :)


Webster

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

It's better than using leaves or your hand, but I digress

From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

O, I was supposed to use those for reading!!!  Crap, that explains a lot! :)


Webster

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

And this is how we get lusers thinking they know about IT...
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Cook 
mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
+1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men's reading room.

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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[James Kerr]

Dear Mr. Eagle Raper,

I throw mine away most of the time, sometimes I might skim through them before 
doing so. I do have a subscription to Motortrend that never seems to end here 
at the office and I have no idea why but I do read that every month when it 
shows up.

James
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:34 PM
  Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?


  Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

   

  I'm trying to change..really.

   

  I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

   

  Information Week

  CIO Decisions

  Technet

  Windows IT Pro

  Storage

  Information Security

   

  And I'm sure a few others.

   

  For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

  Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
  Technology Coordinator
  Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
  jra...@eaglemds.com
  www.eaglemds.com 

   



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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Webster]

Paper cuts are just brutal. J

 

 

Webster

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

It's better than using leaves or your hand, but I digress 

 

From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] 
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

O, I was supposed to use those for reading!!!  Crap, that explains a
lot! J

 

 

Webster

 

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

And this is how we get lusers thinking they know about IT...

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Cook  wrote:

+1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men's reading room.


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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[John Cook]

At which time I quiz them and expose their cluelessness! It's in my job 
description!

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

No they don't, they just read an article and become an instant expert.  No 
thinking required!!
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:06 AM, John Cook 
mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
They have to be capable of thinking first

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:00 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

And this is how we get lusers thinking they know about IT...
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Cook 
mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
+1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men's reading room.

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:39 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I keep all my Windows IT Pro just because it's so hands on and has great 
screenshots.  That's it.

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
[mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE

Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA

jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com



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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[John Cook]

It's better than using leaves or your hand, but I digress

From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

O, I was supposed to use those for reading!!!  Crap, that explains a lot! :)


Webster

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

And this is how we get lusers thinking they know about IT...
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Cook 
mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
+1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men's reading room.

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:39 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I keep all my Windows IT Pro just because it's so hands on and has great 
screenshots.  That's it.

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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Don Ely]

No they don't, they just read an article and become an instant expert.  No
thinking required!!

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:06 AM, John Cook  wrote:

>  They have to be capable of thinking first……..
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:00 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> And this is how we get lusers thinking they know about IT...
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Cook  wrote:
>
> +1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men’s reading room.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:39 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> I keep all my Windows IT Pro just because it’s so hands on and has great
> screenshots.  That’s it.
>
>
>
> *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.
>
>
>
> I’m trying to change….really.
>
>
>
> I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
>
>
>
> Information Week
>
> CIO Decisions
>
> Technet
>
> Windows IT Pro
>
> Storage
>
> Information Security
>
>
>
> And I’m sure a few others.
>
>
>
> For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY
> value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read them?
> I’m leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months
> old, but just wanted some objective perspective.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>
>
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
>
> *
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Webster]

O, I was supposed to use those for reading!!!  Crap, that explains a
lot! J

 

 

Webster

 

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

And this is how we get lusers thinking they know about IT...

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Cook  wrote:

+1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men's reading room.

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:39 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I keep all my Windows IT Pro just because it's so hands on and has great
screenshots.  That's it. 


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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Jonathan Link]

Fixed that for you.

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Maglinger, Paul wrote:

>  The way technology changes so rapidly anything over a year old is “*ancient
> history*”.  I wouldn’t keep anything unless it relates specifically to
> your environment and you don’t have it documented anywhere else.
>
>
>
> *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.
>
>
>
> I’m trying to change….really.
>
>
>
> I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
>
>
>
> Information Week
>
> CIO Decisions
>
> Technet
>
> Windows IT Pro
>
> Storage
>
> Information Security
>
>
>
> And I’m sure a few others.
>
>
>
> For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY
> value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read them?
> I’m leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months
> old, but just wanted some objective perspective.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>
>
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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[John Cook]

They have to be capable of thinking first

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

And this is how we get lusers thinking they know about IT...
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Cook 
mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
+1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men's reading room.

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:39 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I keep all my Windows IT Pro just because it's so hands on and has great 
screenshots.  That's it.

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
[mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE

Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA

jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com



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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Maglinger, Paul]

The way technology changes so rapidly anything over a year old is "old
news".  I wouldn't keep anything unless it relates specifically to your
environment and you don't have it documented anywhere else.

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

 

I'm trying to changereally.

 

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

 

Information Week

CIO Decisions

Technet

Windows IT Pro

Storage

Information Security

 

And I'm sure a few others.

 

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see
ANY value in keeping them for any length of time after you've
skimmed/read them? I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling]
anything more than 3 months old, but just wanted some objective
perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  

 

 



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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Don Ely]

And this is how we get lusers thinking they know about IT...

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Cook  wrote:

>  +1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men’s reading room.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:39 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> I keep all my Windows IT Pro just because it’s so hands on and has great
> screenshots.  That’s it.
>
>
>
> *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
>
>
>
> Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.
>
>
>
> I’m trying to change….really.
>
>
>
> I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
>
>
>
> Information Week
>
> CIO Decisions
>
> Technet
>
> Windows IT Pro
>
> Storage
>
> Information Security
>
>
>
> And I’m sure a few others.
>
>
>
> For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY
> value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read them?
> I’m leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months
> old, but just wanted some objective perspective.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> *
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>
>
>
>
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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[John Cook]

+1 and my Technet as well, all others go to the men's reading room.

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I keep all my Windows IT Pro just because it's so hands on and has great 
screenshots.  That's it.

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>



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Patch Management

[Brumbaugh, Luke]

Now that I have figured out how to update adobe.
My next question is what do you guys use for patch management.

What do you think of EminentWare for wsus?
Is there something better?


Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
Ph:(614) 659-1736



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Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Don Kuhlman]

I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO, Information 
week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model Railroading mags that 
I 
won't get rid of :)
My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0 
Networking, 
SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.  That's where I should 
clean house...

Don K





From: Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?


I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the other 
mags 
I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my office landlord to 
throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster for the building!  City 
recycling didn’t want that much paper.
 
 
Webster
 
From:Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?
 
Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.
 
I’m trying to change….really.
 
I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
 
Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security
 
And I’m sure a few others.
 
For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read them? 
I’m 
leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, but 
just wanted some objective perspective.
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Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Richard Stovall]

I save them until I get so disgusted by seeing a pile of magazines that
haven't been read in years that I throw them out.

I'm thinking of changing my approach, btw.

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

>  Ok, so I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m a pack rat.
>
>
>
> I’m trying to change….really.
>
>
>
> I’ve got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:
>
>
>
> Information Week
>
> CIO Decisions
>
> Technet
>
> Windows IT Pro
>
> Storage
>
> Information Security
>
>
>
> And I’m sure a few others.
>
>
>
> For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY
> value in keeping them for any length of time after you’ve skimmed/read them?
> I’m leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months
> old, but just wanted some objective perspective.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>
>
>
> --
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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Webster]

I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the other
mags I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my office
landlord to throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster for the
building!  City recycling didn't want that much paper.

 

 

Webster

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

 

I'm trying to change..really.

 

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

 

Information Week

CIO Decisions

Technet

Windows IT Pro

Storage

Information Security

 

And I'm sure a few others.

 

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them?
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months
old, but just wanted some objective perspective.


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Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

[PETTERSEN.MARK_R]

I find it easier to scan in the articles/pages I find interesting and 
then recycle the magazine...
 
So, my messy papaers just become messy files...

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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Sam Cayze]

I keep all my Windows IT Pro just because it's so hands on and has great
screenshots.  That's it. 

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

 

I'm trying to changereally.

 

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

 

Information Week

CIO Decisions

Technet

Windows IT Pro

Storage

Information Security

 

And I'm sure a few others.

 

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see
ANY value in keeping them for any length of time after you've
skimmed/read them? I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling]
anything more than 3 months old, but just wanted some objective
perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  

 

 



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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Mathew Shember]

When they reach a certain age, I skim them and pull the pages I think might be 
useful and recycle the rest.

Thanks,
Mathew

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>



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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Kennedy, Jim]

You can get on TV and they will help you throw them away. Less work for you.

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/hoarding-buried-alive/


From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

I'm trying to changereally.

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

Information Week
CIO Decisions
Technet
Windows IT Pro
Storage
Information Security

And I'm sure a few others.

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see ANY 
value in keeping them for any length of time after you've skimmed/read them? 
I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling] anything more than 3 months old, 
but just wanted some objective perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>



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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Don Guyer]

I used to get 4-5 a week, all free rags, so they were mostly ads. When I
found an article that was noteworthy, I just either ripped it out or
grabbed the article online, if available.

 

 

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com  

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

 

I'm trying to changereally.

 

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

 

Information Week

CIO Decisions

Technet

Windows IT Pro

Storage

Information Security

 

And I'm sure a few others.

 

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see
ANY value in keeping them for any length of time after you've
skimmed/read them? I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling]
anything more than 3 months old, but just wanted some objective
perspective.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  

 

 



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electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or
legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s)
and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an
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and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute
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