Re: GPO Printers always showing as default
Already set to Replace :( On 4 January 2013 07:34, James Hill falc...@gmail.com wrote: Is the GPP set to create, update or replace? ** ** If it isn’t already set it to replace and see if that helps. ** ** James. ** ** *From:* Oliver Marshall [mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com] *Sent:* Thursday, 3 January 2013 8:52 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* GPO Printers always showing as default ** ** Hi We have a windows 2008 server with a group policy object that installs a network printer for people. This is set to *not* make this printer the default. However several users are reporting that each time they log on this network printer is configured as the default over their local printer. Not all users by any means. The users can set their local printers back to default but when they next log on the network printer is default again. Interestingly, at least one of the affected users has only started having this problem since moving to a new Windows 7 workstation. They used to have a Windows XP machine using Group Policy Client Side Preferences addin and the printer worked fine. Since Windows 7 they have had this issue. Is there anything anyone can think of that may be causing this? The server is windows 2008 r2 64 bit. The printer is applied in the User Preferences Control Panel Settings Printers section of the GPO object. Olly [image: Image removed by sender.] [image: Image removed by sender.] Network Support Online Backups Server Management Tel: 0845 307 3443 Web: http://www.g2support.com Twitter: g2support http://twitter.com/home?status=@g2support Google+: http://www.g2support.com/plus Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/g2support Mail: Unit H, Hove Technology Centre, Hove, Sussex, BN3 7ES Have you said something nice about us to a friend or colleague ? Let us say thanks. Find out more at www.g2support.com/referral G2 Support LLP is registered at Mill House, 103 Holmes Avenue, HOVE BN3 7LE. Our registered company number is OC316341. ** ** [image: Image removed by sender.] [image: Image removed by sender.] [image: Image removed by sender.] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Network Support Online Backups Server Management Tel: 0845 307 3443 Web: http://www.g2support.com Twitter: g2support http://twitter.com/home?status=@g2support Google+: http://www.g2support.com/plus Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/g2support Mail: Unit H, Hove Technology Centre, Hove, Sussex, BN3 7ES Have you said something nice about us to a friend or colleague ? Let us say thanks. Find out more at www.g2support.com/referral G2 Support LLP is registered at Mill House, 103 Holmes Avenue, HOVE BN3 7LE. Our registered company number is OC316341. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin~WRD000.jpgimage001.jpg
RE: GPO Printers always showing as default
Whenever GPP is causing me headaches I turn on logging and go through the detail. Hopefully it will help you. http://blogs.technet.com/b/askds/archive/2008/07/18/enabling-group-policy-pr eferences-debug-logging-using-the-rsat.aspx James. From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com] Sent: Friday, 4 January 2013 8:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: GPO Printers always showing as default Already set to Replace :( On 4 January 2013 07:34, James Hill falc...@gmail.com mailto:falc...@gmail.com wrote: Is the GPP set to create, update or replace? If it isn't already set it to replace and see if that helps. James. From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com ] Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2013 8:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GPO Printers always showing as default Hi We have a windows 2008 server with a group policy object that installs a network printer for people. This is set to *not* make this printer the default. However several users are reporting that each time they log on this network printer is configured as the default over their local printer. Not all users by any means. The users can set their local printers back to default but when they next log on the network printer is default again. Interestingly, at least one of the affected users has only started having this problem since moving to a new Windows 7 workstation. They used to have a Windows XP machine using Group Policy Client Side Preferences addin and the printer worked fine. Since Windows 7 they have had this issue. Is there anything anyone can think of that may be causing this? The server is windows 2008 r2 64 bit. The printer is applied in the User Preferences Control Panel Settings Printers section of the GPO object. Olly Network Support Online Backups Server Management Tel: 0845 307 3443 tel:0845%20307%203443 Web: http://www.g2support.com http://www.g2support.com/ Twitter: g2support http://twitter.com/home?status=@g2support Google+: http://www.g2support.com/plus Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/g2support Mail: Unit H, Hove Technology Centre, Hove, Sussex, BN3 7ES Have you said something nice about us to a friend or colleague ? Let us say thanks. Find out more at www.g2support.com/referral http://www.g2support.com/referral G2 Support LLP is registered at Mill House, 103 Holmes Avenue, HOVE BN3 7LE. Our registered company number is OC316341. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Network Support Online Backups Server Management Tel: 0845 307 3443 Web: http://www.g2support.com http://www.g2support.com/ Twitter: g2support http://twitter.com/home?status=@g2support Google+: http://www.g2support.com/plus Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/g2support Mail: Unit H, Hove Technology Centre, Hove, Sussex, BN3 7ES Have you said something nice about us to a friend or colleague ? Let us say thanks. Find out more at www.g2support.com/referral http://www.g2support.com/referral G2 Support LLP is registered at Mill House, 103 Holmes Avenue, HOVE BN3 7LE. Our registered company number is OC316341. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin~WRD000.jpgimage001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: Enterprise task scheduler
Sorry for the late entry. You might check I-S-E Enterprise Schedule. We've been using it for over 5 years and have been pleased with it. - Paul Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Adam Meixler ad...@interlink1.com wrote: Simply because http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/scogeneral/thread/3eab8fa3-c30c-4c29-91a4-92d03e5c69f4/ was one of the first notes I read while investigating this From: Steven Peck [sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Enterprise task scheduler Why would it not be used for Task Scheduling? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh420338 Not saying it's the best, just wondering why you can't use it for that. If you already have System Center suite then it's something you can try for 'free'. On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Yep - Opalis. Shame that - there aren't many packages in that spot. Winbatch might be your better bet, in that case. It's been a long time since I played with those products, too. Kurt On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Adam Meixler ad...@interlink1.commailto:ad...@interlink1.com wrote: I had thought the same thing! (was Opalis?) Some googling seems to suggest that it's not meant for Task Scheduling any more. It can be made to do it, but its strong suit is repeatable Jobs rather than scheduled tasks now. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Enterprise task scheduler It's been a lot of years since I touched it (more than 10!) and it's since been acquired by MSFT and rolled into the SC suite, but Orchestrator comes to mind... Might be worth a look. Kurt On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Adam Meixler ad...@interlink1.commailto:ad...@interlink1.com wrote: Happy New Year everyone! I was hoping to get The Lists opinion on a good, un-bloated enterprise task scheduler. Right now we have about a thousand tasks scattered across different servers using the windows scheduled task service and it’s just not doing it for us. It’d be nice if jobs could be pushed down to workers as they were available vs. being scheduled on specific instances, but we at least want a central control of these jobs. We’re open to any ideas that don’t involve CA Thanks all ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
Re: Time sync
We run the product from Meinberg. It works very well except on HV guests. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgwrote: Greetings! ** ** I’m sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S’s reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. ** ** Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322) – mainly meant to make Kerberos v5 work. ** ** Our issue is, W32Time lets things drift enough for weird things to occur in our medical records. ** ** We have a veterinary toxicology consulting hotline. Because things get out of sync a bit, we frequently have medical records opening before a client’s telephone call is received. ** ** The article referenced above essentially says to go find an alternative to W32Time. NIST has gathered a list of time sync software. QUESTION: has anyone on the list used (and would recommend) anything on that list to fix the “record created prior to the call” situation? ( http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/softwarelist.cfm) ** ** Thank you… -- richard ** ** The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Enterprise task scheduler
Honestly, I'm not sure I see a difference between repeatable jobs and scheduled tasks, other than nomenclature. :) I use Orchestrator for this at a couple of clients and it seems to work just fine and the reports are sweet. YMMV. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 6:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Enterprise task scheduler Yep - Opalis. Shame that - there aren't many packages in that spot. Winbatch might be your better bet, in that case. It's been a long time since I played with those products, too. Kurt On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Adam Meixler ad...@interlink1.com wrote: I had thought the same thing! (was Opalis?) Some googling seems to suggest that it's not meant for Task Scheduling any more. It can be made to do it, but its strong suit is repeatable Jobs rather than scheduled tasks now. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Enterprise task scheduler It's been a lot of years since I touched it (more than 10!) and it's since been acquired by MSFT and rolled into the SC suite, but Orchestrator comes to mind... Might be worth a look. Kurt On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Adam Meixler ad...@interlink1.com wrote: Happy New Year everyone! I was hoping to get The Lists opinion on a good, un-bloated enterprise task scheduler. Right now we have about a thousand tasks scattered across different servers using the windows scheduled task service and it’s just not doing it for us. It’d be nice if jobs could be pushed down to workers as they were available vs. being scheduled on specific instances, but we at least want a central control of these jobs. We’re open to any ideas that don’t involve CA Thanks all ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Time sync
We run the Meinberg NTP port as well. We will soon start migrating from VMWare (where the Meinberg NTP port works great) to HyperV. Care to elaborate on what you mean by except on HV guests? From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync We run the product from Meinberg. It works very well except on HV guests. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I'm sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S's reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322) - mainly meant to make Kerberos v5 work. Our issue is, W32Time lets things drift enough for weird things to occur in our medical records. We have a veterinary toxicology consulting hotline. Because things get out of sync a bit, we frequently have medical records opening before a client's telephone call is received. The article referenced above essentially says to go find an alternative to W32Time. NIST has gathered a list of time sync software. QUESTION: has anyone on the list used (and would recommend) anything on that list to fix the record created prior to the call situation? (http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/softwarelist.cfm) Thank you... -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Time sync
Here is how I do it. I use the standard domain structure and have the PDC emulator sync to a good outside source. But the one thing I added was a scheduled task on every server that runs twice a day to stop and start the time service. That has helped dramatically, I can't remember the last time (pun intended) we had a time sync issue. From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Time sync Greetings! I'm sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S's reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322) - mainly meant to make Kerberos v5 work. Our issue is, W32Time lets things drift enough for weird things to occur in our medical records. We have a veterinary toxicology consulting hotline. Because things get out of sync a bit, we frequently have medical records opening before a client's telephone call is received. The article referenced above essentially says to go find an alternative to W32Time. NIST has gathered a list of time sync software. QUESTION: has anyone on the list used (and would recommend) anything on that list to fix the record created prior to the call situation? (http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/softwarelist.cfm) Thank you... -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Occasional local admin needed
Do a domain account as you describe and set the account to expire tomorrow. When they need it you re-enable it and set it to expire again the next day. Still manual intervention on your part but the automatic expire solves the ongoing access issue. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Occasional local admin needed How would you guys handle this? I have a server that the developers use that they occasionally (once a month or so) need local admin access for to install/upgrade an app or feature they use. This is a new-ish server that previously I have just added a user (it's the same one each time) to the local admin group then a week later took them out, but that's cumbersome and I become the single point of failure on remembering to back them out. I could 1. create a special AD account for this user to be local admin, or 2. create an AD group, put this person in it, then GPO that group into local admins on that server. Suggestions? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Occasional local admin needed
How about you create an AD Group, nest the AD group in local admins, and add the relevant users? GPOs and extra accounts for a dev box like this sounds like substantial unnecessary overhead. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Occasional local admin needed How would you guys handle this? I have a server that the developers use that they occasionally (once a month or so) need local admin access for to install/upgrade an app or feature they use. This is a new-ish server that previously I have just added a user (it's the same one each time) to the local admin group then a week later took them out, but that's cumbersome and I become the single point of failure on remembering to back them out. I could 1. create a special AD account for this user to be local admin, or 2. create an AD group, put this person in it, then GPO that group into local admins on that server. Suggestions? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Occasional local admin needed
I would use an AD account, placed in the local admins group and then enable/disable as needed. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CDEA6A.558CB490] From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Occasional local admin needed How would you guys handle this? I have a server that the developers use that they occasionally (once a month or so) need local admin access for to install/upgrade an app or feature they use. This is a new-ish server that previously I have just added a user (it's the same one each time) to the local admin group then a week later took them out, but that's cumbersome and I become the single point of failure on remembering to back them out. I could 1. create a special AD account for this user to be local admin, or 2. create an AD group, put this person in it, then GPO that group into local admins on that server. Suggestions? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
Re: Time sync
How far is your drift? What it the tolerance for drift in the application? Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 01/04/2013 09:11 AM Subject:Time sync Greetings! I’m sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S’s reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322 ) – mainly meant to make Kerberos v5 work. Our issue is, W32Time lets things drift enough for weird things to occur in our medical records. We have a veterinary toxicology consulting hotline. Because things get out of sync a bit, we frequently have medical records opening before a client’s telephone call is received. The article referenced above essentially says to go find an alternative to W32Time. NIST has gathered a list of time sync software. QUESTION: has anyone on the list used (and would recommend) anything on that list to fix the “record created prior to the call” situation? ( http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/softwarelist.cfm) Thank you… -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin image/jpeg
RE: Time sync
Slightly OT, Ken, but why are you moving away from VM? Cost or something else that HyperV gives you that VM doesn't? Paul Chinnery Network Admin Memorial Medical Center 231.845.2319 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync We run the Meinberg NTP port as well. We will soon start migrating from VMWare (where the Meinberg NTP port works great) to HyperV. Care to elaborate on what you mean by except on HV guests? From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync We run the product from Meinberg. It works very well except on HV guests. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I'm sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S's reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322) - mainly meant to make Kerberos v5 work. Our issue is, W32Time lets things drift enough for weird things to occur in our medical records. We have a veterinary toxicology consulting hotline. Because things get out of sync a bit, we frequently have medical records opening before a client's telephone call is received. The article referenced above essentially says to go find an alternative to W32Time. NIST has gathered a list of time sync software. QUESTION: has anyone on the list used (and would recommend) anything on that list to fix the record created prior to the call situation? (http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/softwarelist.cfm) Thank you... -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Occasional local admin needed
Restricted Group GPO or do it via GPP... Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Occasional local admin needed How would you guys handle this? I have a server that the developers use that they occasionally (once a month or so) need local admin access for to install/upgrade an app or feature they use. This is a new-ish server that previously I have just added a user (it's the same one each time) to the local admin group then a week later took them out, but that's cumbersome and I become the single point of failure on remembering to back them out. I could 1. create a special AD account for this user to be local admin, or 2. create an AD group, put this person in it, then GPO that group into local admins on that server. Suggestions? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Time sync
How much time skew are we talking about here? While MSFT will only support w32tm accuracy within 1-2 seconds, in practice I have found it to be stable within a tenth of a second or less, and would not feel compelled to look into very-high-accuracy NTP clients for regular non-scientific applications. Do you have separate systems recording the timestamps of an incoming call and the creation of a linked medical record, or are things unreliable even on a single host? --Steve On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I’m sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S’s reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322) – mainly meant to make Kerberos v5 work. Our issue is, W32Time lets things drift enough for weird things to occur in our medical records. We have a veterinary toxicology consulting hotline. Because things get out of sync a bit, we frequently have medical records opening before a client’s telephone call is received. The article referenced above essentially says to go find an alternative to W32Time. NIST has gathered a list of time sync software. QUESTION: has anyone on the list used (and would recommend) anything on that list to fix the “record created prior to the call” situation? (http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/softwarelist.cfm) Thank you… -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: LAptops
Which drivers are you missing? Alas, as with Windows 2000, XP may be loosing driver support for some components. If you know exactly which components you are missing drivers for, you can sometimes go directly to the manufacturer of the components for drivers. Also, on occasion, you can find the same components in a different model of PC that does have XP versions of the drivers. YMMV. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 07:40:52 -0800 Subject: LAptops Hi Has anyone purchased any Dell Dell Vostro 2520 laptops And put windows xp on them We run XP as we have software that will not run on windows 7 at the moment due to cost we cant upgrade this so we are stuck on XP On dells site they don't list drivers for xp (I know some of the latitude systems are supported with xp but its all down to cost as they are more expensive and I have a budget to work with) Just wondered if anyone had found xp drivers and was running one of the vostro 2520 machines with windows xp Nigel Parker Systems Engineer Ultraframe (UK) Ltd Tel: 01200 452329 Fax: 01200 452201 Web: www.ultraframe.com Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. The statements and opinions expressed in this email are my own and may not represent those of Ultraframe (UK) Ltd. This email is subject to copyright and the information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is sent out only for intended recipient(s). Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not an intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or other use or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and unlawful. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Time sync
I was thinking the same thing. Actually IMHO VM still does more than Hyper-V does... Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync Slightly OT, Ken, but why are you moving away from VM? Cost or something else that HyperV gives you that VM doesn't? Paul Chinnery Network Admin Memorial Medical Center 231.845.2319 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync We run the Meinberg NTP port as well. We will soon start migrating from VMWare (where the Meinberg NTP port works great) to HyperV. Care to elaborate on what you mean by except on HV guests? From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync We run the product from Meinberg. It works very well except on HV guests. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I'm sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S's reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322) - mainly meant to make Kerberos v5 work. Our issue is, W32Time lets things drift enough for weird things to occur in our medical records. We have a veterinary toxicology consulting hotline. Because things get out of sync a bit, we frequently have medical records opening before a client's telephone call is received. The article referenced above essentially says to go find an alternative to W32Time. NIST has gathered a list of time sync software. QUESTION: has anyone on the list used (and would recommend) anything on that list to fix the record created prior to the call situation? (http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/softwarelist.cfm) Thank you... -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Occasional local admin needed
That is what we do for users who have these types of needs. TVK From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 9:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Occasional local admin needed How about you create an AD Group, nest the AD group in local admins, and add the relevant users? GPOs and extra accounts for a dev box like this sounds like substantial unnecessary overhead. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Occasional local admin needed How would you guys handle this? I have a server that the developers use that they occasionally (once a month or so) need local admin access for to install/upgrade an app or feature they use. This is a new-ish server that previously I have just added a user (it's the same one each time) to the local admin group then a week later took them out, but that's cumbersome and I become the single point of failure on remembering to back them out. I could 1. create a special AD account for this user to be local admin, or 2. create an AD group, put this person in it, then GPO that group into local admins on that server. Suggestions? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Replacement for SteadyState
I know our local school district uses Deep Freeze. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Bambi J Saastad bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com wrote: Hello I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState. I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down. Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any changes on reboot? TIA B ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Replacement for SteadyState
Have you looked at this document yet? http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=24373 Also, have you considered going to Thin Clients and using RDS? Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: Bambi J Saastad bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 01/04/2013 12:04 PM Subject:Replacement for SteadyState Hello I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState. I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down. Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any changes on reboot? TIA B ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage/jpeg
RE: Time sync
Thanks to all so far! The drift goes off into minutes apart. I presume somewhere in those TechNet articles is something (registry hack to workstations via GPO) that can have servers and workstations sync with the DC every 1-2 hours? (At first skimming, it's not all that clear.) Thanks again -Original Message- From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync How much time skew are we talking about here? While MSFT will only support w32tm accuracy within 1-2 seconds, in practice I have found it to be stable within a tenth of a second or less, and would not feel compelled to look into very-high-accuracy NTP clients for regular non-scientific applications. Do you have separate systems recording the timestamps of an incoming call and the creation of a linked medical record, or are things unreliable even on a single host? --Steve On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I'm sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S's reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322) - mainly meant to make Kerberos v5 work. Our issue is, W32Time lets things drift enough for weird things to occur in our medical records. We have a veterinary toxicology consulting hotline. Because things get out of sync a bit, we frequently have medical records opening before a client's telephone call is received. The article referenced above essentially says to go find an alternative to W32Time. NIST has gathered a list of time sync software. QUESTION: has anyone on the list used (and would recommend) anything on that list to fix the record created prior to the call situation? (http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/softwarelist.cfm) Thank you... -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Replacement for SteadyState
Boot from VHD with a differencing disk. From: Bambi J Saastad [mailto:bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com] Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Replacement for SteadyState Hello I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState. I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down. Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any changes on reboot? TIA B ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Replacement for SteadyState
SteadyState died with Vista, as I'm sure you're aware. The top dog in this field is Deep Freeze. I also have used the products by FotresGrand, in particular Fortres 101 (which is not exactly the same as Deep Freeze or SteadyState, but they do sell a product called Clean Slate which does what you want, I believe.) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Bambi J Saastad [mailto:bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 08:36:04 -0800 Subject: Replacement for SteadyState Hello I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState. I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down. Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any changes on reboot? TIA B ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Replacement for SteadyState
The campus I support has been using Faronics DeepFreeze in our labs for several years. http://www.faronics.com/ On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Bambi J Saastad bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com wrote: Hello I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState. I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down. Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any changes on reboot? TIA B ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Replacement for SteadyState
Not free, but we could not function at the school without DeepFreeze. From: Bambi J Saastad [mailto:bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Replacement for SteadyState Hello I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState. I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down. Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any changes on reboot? TIA B ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Replacement for SteadyState
http://www.steadierstate.com/ It's a Minassi creation John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Bambi J Saastad [mailto:bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Replacement for SteadyState Hello I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState. I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down. Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any changes on reboot? TIA B ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Replacement for SteadyState
Or this: http://www.steadierstate.com/ Paul G. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: 04 January 2013 17:09 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Replacement for SteadyState Have you looked at this document yet? http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=24373 http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=24373 Also, have you considered going to Thin Clients and using RDS? Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America http://www.guardianlife.com/ www.guardianlife.com From:Bambi J Saastad bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/04/2013 12:04 PM Subject:Replacement for SteadyState _ Hello I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState. I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down. Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any changes on reboot? TIA B ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: Replacement for SteadyState
There's an article here about doing it: http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-power-tools/replicating-steadystate-windows-7-129192 Mike From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 04 January 2013 17:13 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState Boot from VHD with a differencing disk. From: Bambi J Saastad [mailto:bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com] Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Replacement for SteadyState Hello I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState. I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down. Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any changes on reboot? TIA B ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Time sync
If it's minutes, something's wrong. My experience is much the same as Steve's. Other than some very specialized applications, w32time is sufficient. We do have a very intricate Time Synchronization Network with multiple atomic clocks and other sources but it's not needed on the majority of windows clients. We used to run the ntp.org software on the NT DCs in lieu of timeserv but w32time has been sufficient since we moved to AD. My DCs in the domain I just checked are all within 15 ms of Stratum 1, actually only one is over 10ms. My laptop is on VPN over LTE and hasn't been in the office in months and it is only +70ms from Stratum 2. Biggest problem I've had over the years is with meddlers who *think* they know better and fool around with it. Usually setting things back to default and w32tm /resync fixes it. -Original Message- From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync How much time skew are we talking about here? While MSFT will only support w32tm accuracy within 1-2 seconds, in practice I have found it to be stable within a tenth of a second or less, and would not feel compelled to look into very-high-accuracy NTP clients for regular non-scientific applications. Do you have separate systems recording the timestamps of an incoming call and the creation of a linked medical record, or are things unreliable even on a single host? --Steve On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I'm sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S's reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322) - mainly meant to make Kerberos v5 work. Our issue is, W32Time lets things drift enough for weird things to occur in our medical records. We have a veterinary toxicology consulting hotline. Because things get out of sync a bit, we frequently have medical records opening before a client's telephone call is received. The article referenced above essentially says to go find an alternative to W32Time. NIST has gathered a list of time sync software. QUESTION: has anyone on the list used (and would recommend) anything on that list to fix the record created prior to the call situation? (http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/softwarelist.cfm) Thank you... -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin PGE is committed to protecting our customers' privacy. To learn more, please visit http://www.pge.com/about/company/privacy/customer/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Replacement for SteadyState
15 years ago we did something similar with Windows NT and the article blow explains the principal for Windows 7. If you can then use Windows 8 and you can build a system with a completely VHD based environment. If you add a Windows PE partition and a differencing disk then you can either lock down the machine, or allow for an open machine and a restore after a reboot. One day I'll reply to a post and it will appear within an hour!! - can I claim the first Frikin Lyris of the year? Mike From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:m...@drumbrae.net] Sent: 04 January 2013 18:02 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState There's an article here about doing it: http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows-power-tools/replicating-steadystate-windows-7-129192 Mike From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 04 January 2013 17:13 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Replacement for SteadyState Boot from VHD with a differencing disk. From: Bambi J Saastad [mailto:bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com] Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Replacement for SteadyState Hello I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState. I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down. Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any changes on reboot? TIA B ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
OT- Programmer/Developer Analyst job NW Wash
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RE: Time sync
Cost. HyperV give something that VMWare doesn't? I laughed so hard I think I peed myself a little... Sheesh, you can't even extend disks on a running virtual under HyperV. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync I was thinking the same thing. Actually IMHO VM still does more than Hyper-V does... Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync Slightly OT, Ken, but why are you moving away from VM? Cost or something else that HyperV gives you that VM doesn't? Paul Chinnery Network Admin Memorial Medical Center 231.845.2319 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync We run the Meinberg NTP port as well. We will soon start migrating from VMWare (where the Meinberg NTP port works great) to HyperV. Care to elaborate on what you mean by except on HV guests? From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync We run the product from Meinberg. It works very well except on HV guests. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I'm sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S's reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322) - mainly meant to make Kerberos v5 work. Our issue is, W32Time lets things drift enough for weird things to occur in our medical records. We have a veterinary toxicology consulting hotline. Because things get out of sync a bit, we frequently have medical records opening before a client's telephone call is received. The article referenced above essentially says to go find an alternative to W32Time. NIST has gathered a list of time sync software. QUESTION: has anyone on the list used (and would recommend) anything on that list to fix the record created prior to the call situation? (http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/softwarelist.cfm) Thank you... -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body:
Re: Trying to install RDS on Server 2012, as a VM under VMware ESX 5.0 ..
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure you want to install a virtual host inside another virtual host? I'm not, but the boss is ... at least for a proof-of-concept. Citrix Presentation Manager works perfectly under ESXi, so some nested virtialization (apparently that's the term for this type of setup) works fine. I haven't attempted to install RDS as yet under 2012. I might give that a go this weekend under Hyper-V and see... I've found ways to do it, but apparently it's a lot easier under VMware 5.1. Upgrading is a pain, but I guess I will do that first. Mind you, running Hyper-V in a VM under ESXi is still not supported, but it's supposed to work .. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Trying to install RDS on Server 2012, as a VM under VMware ESX 5.0 ..
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:46 AM, James Hill falc...@gmail.com wrote: You can install a Remote Desktop Session Host on a VM (whether it is Hyper V, or Vmware etc), that is supported. You can't (well it isn't supported though there are hack methods) install VDI on a VM which is what you have attempted to do. I see ... (well, sorta ...) When you run the Add Roles and Features Wizard select the first option Role based or feature-based installation. In the next step select the server and then in the next step (Roles) select the Remote Desktop Services (and whichever components you wish to use). This will give you the Remote Desktop Session Host etc which is what you after. It should install just fine then. It did! Excellent! Thanks so much for the hint ... The guide you have followed is for a VDI installation and hence it uses the second option in the Add Roles and Features Wizard. I see I will need to read more. Years ago (like 5-6), I used to run a Win2003 Terminal Server, and we used to set up a full desktop of apps for our users (at my old company). Here, we want to publish just the one app, apparently - we do not want a full desktop for the users. At least now I have something more to play around with. This is all a proof-of-concept - if we can get it to work, we will replace our Citrix Presentation Managers VMs with 2012 and RDS. Total user base for this app is *maybe* 100 users total; the most I've ever seen on Citrix simultaneously is like 50 or so. Guess I should dig more into RemoteApp, as well ... Thanks so much, you've really helped me! James. -Original Message- From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 4 January 2013 1:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Trying to install RDS on Server 2012, as a VM under VMware ESX 5.0 .. So I seem to be stumped. We have some old Citrix Presentation Manager servers running on Win 2003 that my boss would like to retire, and replace with Remote Desktop Services under Server 2012. The catch is that these servers would VMs, running under VMware ESXi 5.0 (that's what the current Citirix servers are). If you install all the latest ESXi 5.0 patches, then you can run Server 2012 VMs. That part is running fine. But I can't seem to install RDS. (the last time I used even Terminal Services was on Win 2003, over 5 years back). Following this blog post http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/jj554307.aspx I am trying to install RDS. But it keeps failing on RD Virtualization Host step - all it says is that it failed. The other 2 steps (Connection Broker and Web Services) installed fine. I don't see anything in the Event log that is telling me WHY it failed. I am seeing Event 9645 from source MSSQL$MICROSOFT##WID. Message is An error occurred in the service broker manager, Error 3602, State: 145. And I can't seem to track down what this means. The online Event log help is no help (it never seems to be, for me). I haven't found it in eventid.net, and Google isn't showing me anything close to my situation. So let's start at the beginning: 1. Is this even possible - can you run RDS on Server 2012 as a VM under ESXi 5.0? Or is that trying to run one virtualization technology (Hyper-V) under a different virtualization technology (ESXi)? (eventually we want to publish an application or two, not a lot, and no need of a full desktop, as I understand it). I know MS says you shouldn't (or can't) run Hyper-V inside of Hyper-V, but it doesn't seem to say anything about Hyper-V inside any other virtualization - ESXi, XenApp, etc. 2. If it is possible, what am I missing? The article didn't mention any pre-requisites I don't have. I have Server 2012 as a domain member in my Win 2008 R2 AD domain. So far, I am not liking Server 2012. :-) (and I haven't started in on that Metro interface ...) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Time sync
Ken, On HV guests the time snch feature really doesn't work. I contacted Meinberg and they told me that their product is not made to run on a Guest OS. VMware or HV. Our experience with NTP on HV guests is that there is way too much fluctuation and the time never stays within the limits. When you look at the server's clock the time is always what it should be. So it is getting off by 500ms or whatever the limit is. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Ken Cornetet ken.corne...@kimball.comwrote: We run the Meinberg NTP port as well. We will soon start migrating from VMWare (where the Meinberg NTP port works great) to HyperV. Care to elaborate on what you mean by “except on HV guests”? ** ** *From:* Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2013 9:24 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Time sync ** ** We run the product from Meinberg. It works very well except on HV guests. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I’m sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S’s reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322) – mainly meant to make Kerberos v5 work. Our issue is, W32Time lets things drift enough for weird things to occur in our medical records. We have a veterinary toxicology consulting hotline. Because things get out of sync a bit, we frequently have medical records opening before a client’s telephone call is received. The article referenced above essentially says to go find an alternative to W32Time. NIST has gathered a list of time sync software. QUESTION: has anyone on the list used (and would recommend) anything on that list to fix the “record created prior to the call” situation? ( http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/softwarelist.cfm) Thank you… -- richard ** ** The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Trying to install RDS on Server 2012, as a VM under VMware ESX 5.0 ..
So in further narrowing this down with my boss, here's what we want: (that I know of, so far) - want to access the app from a web browser - client OSes will be many XP w/SP3, some Win 7 - do not want clients to see a full desktop, only the one crappy app they need to access - and, just to make it more interesting, the app is a traditional, fat, full client-server app, that uses too much bandwidth to run remotely, hence the need to run this way - the app has it's own security, own IDs and passwords, separate from our domain logins So it looks like I want Remote Desktop Web Access, so the clients can connect using a web browser. Not sure if that means I also then need to set up RemoteApp on the server, so that when they do connect, they will see only the one app I have published, and can only execute that. Sounds like it, from the skimming I've done so far. Right now, what we happens is: you (the client) start a browser session. We have a load balancer, which routes you to a Ctirix XenApp server, where you authenticate with a domain ID, and then it shows you the one and only app you can run. Choosing it then prompts you for the application security (ID and password). Then you see the rest - entry screens, etc. I should be able to replace all the Citrix parts with Server 2012 and RDS, and the users should just be able to toodle right along. (well, the web interface to choose the app will change, but other than that, it should be all the same to the end users). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Time sync
Hmm, could be your VM host has the wrong time, and is jamming that bad time into its guests occasionally. Disable the host-guest time sync and, provided w32tm is set up properly, you may find everything is good. Also it wouldn't hurt to make sure the host has a solid time configuration, as *fully* disabling host-guest sync, at least under VMWare, takes a little more poking than one might think. Definitely would sort this out before considering 3rd party NTP solutions... anything more than a couple seconds of skew isn't w32tm's fault. --Steve On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Thanks to all so far! The drift goes off into minutes apart. I presume somewhere in those TechNet articles is something (registry hack to workstations via GPO) that can have servers and workstations sync with the DC every 1-2 hours? (At first skimming, it's not all that clear.) Thanks again -Original Message- From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync How much time skew are we talking about here? While MSFT will only support w32tm accuracy within 1-2 seconds, in practice I have found it to be stable within a tenth of a second or less, and would not feel compelled to look into very-high-accuracy NTP clients for regular non-scientific applications. Do you have separate systems recording the timestamps of an incoming call and the creation of a linked medical record, or are things unreliable even on a single host? --Steve On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I'm sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S's reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322) - mainly meant to make Kerberos v5 work. Our issue is, W32Time lets things drift enough for weird things to occur in our medical records. We have a veterinary toxicology consulting hotline. Because things get out of sync a bit, we frequently have medical records opening before a client's telephone call is received. The article referenced above essentially says to go find an alternative to W32Time. NIST has gathered a list of time sync software. QUESTION: has anyone on the list used (and would recommend) anything on that list to fix the record created prior to the call situation? (http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/softwarelist.cfm) Thank you... -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
Re: Occasional local admin needed
The restricted group GPO won't take effect on the regular refresh schedule, because the GPO itself will not have changed... IIRC it will take closer to one day to notice that the once-compliant local group is out of whack. I think I'd just use a domain group nested into the machine's builtin\administrators, and make sure to set a reminder to clear that group after a little while. Of course that's still assuming the users won't give themselves extra access in the meantime. --Steve On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: Better suggestions have already been given, but I’ll throw this out as a possibility. Use restricted groups in a GPO to set who should normally be an admin. Then when the dev needs admin, add them to the administrators group on the local machine. Once they’re logged in, they’ll have the admin SID in their token and will be able to stay logged in as long as necessary. But, within 45 minutes, the GPO refreshes and removes them from the group. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Occasional local admin needed How would you guys handle this? I have a server that the developers use that they occasionally (once a month or so) need local admin access for to install/upgrade an app or feature they use. This is a new-ish server that previously I have just added a user (it’s the same one each time) to the local admin group then a week later took them out, but that’s cumbersome and I become the single point of failure on remembering to back them out. I could 1. create a special AD account for this user to be local admin, or 2. create an AD group, put this person in it, then GPO that group into local admins on that server. Suggestions? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Time sync
The drift is to far. We peer servers to DC's, DC's to vPDC The DC's all peer to our routers and the routers are chained to each other and the root outside source we use. Our servers are within seconds. We do not sync with the hosts. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Steve Kradel skra...@zetetic.net wrote: Hmm, could be your VM host has the wrong time, and is jamming that bad time into its guests occasionally. Disable the host-guest time sync and, provided w32tm is set up properly, you may find everything is good. Also it wouldn't hurt to make sure the host has a solid time configuration, as *fully* disabling host-guest sync, at least under VMWare, takes a little more poking than one might think. Definitely would sort this out before considering 3rd party NTP solutions... anything more than a couple seconds of skew isn't w32tm's fault. --Steve On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Thanks to all so far! The drift goes off into minutes apart. I presume somewhere in those TechNet articles is something (registry hack to workstations via GPO) that can have servers and workstations sync with the DC every 1-2 hours? (At first skimming, it's not all that clear.) Thanks again -Original Message- From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync How much time skew are we talking about here? While MSFT will only support w32tm accuracy within 1-2 seconds, in practice I have found it to be stable within a tenth of a second or less, and would not feel compelled to look into very-high-accuracy NTP clients for regular non-scientific applications. Do you have separate systems recording the timestamps of an incoming call and the creation of a linked medical record, or are things unreliable even on a single host? --Steve On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I'm sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S's reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322) - mainly meant to make Kerberos v5 work. Our issue is, W32Time lets things drift enough for weird things to occur in our medical records. We have a veterinary toxicology consulting hotline. Because things get out of sync a bit, we frequently have medical records opening before a client's telephone call is received. The article referenced above essentially says to go find an alternative to W32Time. NIST has gathered a list of time sync software. QUESTION: has anyone on the list used (and would recommend) anything on that list to fix the record created prior to the call situation? (http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/softwarelist.cfm) Thank you... -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please
Re: Enterprise task scheduler
That was where I was confused as well. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Honestly, I'm not sure I see a difference between repeatable jobs and scheduled tasks, other than nomenclature. :) I use Orchestrator for this at a couple of clients and it seems to work just fine and the reports are sweet. YMMV. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 6:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Enterprise task scheduler Yep - Opalis. Shame that - there aren't many packages in that spot. Winbatch might be your better bet, in that case. It's been a long time since I played with those products, too. Kurt On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Adam Meixler ad...@interlink1.com wrote: I had thought the same thing! (was Opalis?) Some googling seems to suggest that it's not meant for Task Scheduling any more. It can be made to do it, but its strong suit is repeatable Jobs rather than scheduled tasks now. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Enterprise task scheduler It's been a lot of years since I touched it (more than 10!) and it's since been acquired by MSFT and rolled into the SC suite, but Orchestrator comes to mind... Might be worth a look. Kurt On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Adam Meixler ad...@interlink1.com wrote: Happy New Year everyone! I was hoping to get The Lists opinion on a good, un-bloated enterprise task scheduler. Right now we have about a thousand tasks scattered across different servers using the windows scheduled task service and it’s just not doing it for us. It’d be nice if jobs could be pushed down to workers as they were available vs. being scheduled on specific instances, but we at least want a central control of these jobs. We’re open to any ideas that don’t involve CA Thanks all ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Trying to install RDS on Server 2012, as a VM under VMware ESX 5.0 ..
Yes you can do all of that with Server 2012 (can do it with Server 2008 R2 as well) and RemoteApp is required. Install all the RDS roles except for the virtualisation host. James. -Original Message- From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 5 January 2013 6:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Trying to install RDS on Server 2012, as a VM under VMware ESX 5.0 .. So in further narrowing this down with my boss, here's what we want: (that I know of, so far) - want to access the app from a web browser - client OSes will be many XP w/SP3, some Win 7 - do not want clients to see a full desktop, only the one crappy app they need to access - and, just to make it more interesting, the app is a traditional, fat, full client-server app, that uses too much bandwidth to run remotely, hence the need to run this way - the app has it's own security, own IDs and passwords, separate from our domain logins So it looks like I want Remote Desktop Web Access, so the clients can connect using a web browser. Not sure if that means I also then need to set up RemoteApp on the server, so that when they do connect, they will see only the one app I have published, and can only execute that. Sounds like it, from the skimming I've done so far. Right now, what we happens is: you (the client) start a browser session. We have a load balancer, which routes you to a Ctirix XenApp server, where you authenticate with a domain ID, and then it shows you the one and only app you can run. Choosing it then prompts you for the application security (ID and password). Then you see the rest - entry screens, etc. I should be able to replace all the Citrix parts with Server 2012 and RDS, and the users should just be able to toodle right along. (well, the web interface to choose the app will change, but other than that, it should be all the same to the end users). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Time sync
Oh, I should mention the PBX gets time from the routers as well, etc. We do insurance and if the phones and customer call center apps and the time clock apps are off by more then a second or two we all have to go to irritating meetings On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: The drift is to far. We peer servers to DC's, DC's to vPDC The DC's all peer to our routers and the routers are chained to each other and the root outside source we use. Our servers are within seconds. We do not sync with the hosts. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Steve Kradel skra...@zetetic.net wrote: Hmm, could be your VM host has the wrong time, and is jamming that bad time into its guests occasionally. Disable the host-guest time sync and, provided w32tm is set up properly, you may find everything is good. Also it wouldn't hurt to make sure the host has a solid time configuration, as *fully* disabling host-guest sync, at least under VMWare, takes a little more poking than one might think. Definitely would sort this out before considering 3rd party NTP solutions... anything more than a couple seconds of skew isn't w32tm's fault. --Steve On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Thanks to all so far! The drift goes off into minutes apart. I presume somewhere in those TechNet articles is something (registry hack to workstations via GPO) that can have servers and workstations sync with the DC every 1-2 hours? (At first skimming, it's not all that clear.) Thanks again -Original Message- From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync How much time skew are we talking about here? While MSFT will only support w32tm accuracy within 1-2 seconds, in practice I have found it to be stable within a tenth of a second or less, and would not feel compelled to look into very-high-accuracy NTP clients for regular non-scientific applications. Do you have separate systems recording the timestamps of an incoming call and the creation of a linked medical record, or are things unreliable even on a single host? --Steve On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I'm sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S's reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322) - mainly meant to make Kerberos v5 work. Our issue is, W32Time lets things drift enough for weird things to occur in our medical records. We have a veterinary toxicology consulting hotline. Because things get out of sync a bit, we frequently have medical records opening before a client's telephone call is received. The article referenced above essentially says to go find an alternative to W32Time. NIST has gathered a list of time sync software. QUESTION: has anyone on the list used (and would recommend) anything on that list to fix the record created prior to the call situation? (http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/softwarelist.cfm) Thank you... -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally
RE: Time sync
I presume that you have at least 2 redondant, stable, time sources for your telecom eqpt and that you use them to redistribute time to your PDC and others non windows material. I also assume you have specific Stratum level define for your time sources and that you are not deasy chaining your router NTP too many level... One solution would be to install a real NTP client on all the windows stations and servers part of your insurance setup (no need for the non critical stuff). With this, you could make sure the sync is every 2 hours for example. As long as the DC don't drift too much, there would be no problem with auth. If they are drifting, well, here is your problem... PS: With your VM, where do you take the time? From ESX or from the PDC/DC servers? Here, we have 2 GPS base NTP source (Stratum 1) feeding the Cisco 6509 or Main router of each site (Stratum 2). In turn, they redistribute time in their site using the same anycast address. That way, an eqpt can allways reach one good time source. I also run the Meinberg NTP Time source Monitor to check my PC station agains all the NTP source (stratum 1 and 2) I have defined in those sites. If any timesource offset more then 100msec, It generate an e-mail alert. De : Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Envoyé : 4 janvier 2013 16:25 À : NT System Admin Issues Objet : Re: Time sync Oh, I should mention the PBX gets time from the routers as well, etc. We do insurance and if the phones and customer call center apps and the time clock apps are off by more then a second or two we all have to go to irritating meetings On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: The drift is to far. We peer servers to DC's, DC's to vPDC The DC's all peer to our routers and the routers are chained to each other and the root outside source we use. Our servers are within seconds. We do not sync with the hosts. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Steve Kradel skra...@zetetic.net wrote: Hmm, could be your VM host has the wrong time, and is jamming that bad time into its guests occasionally. Disable the host-guest time sync and, provided w32tm is set up properly, you may find everything is good. Also it wouldn't hurt to make sure the host has a solid time configuration, as *fully* disabling host-guest sync, at least under VMWare, takes a little more poking than one might think. Definitely would sort this out before considering 3rd party NTP solutions... anything more than a couple seconds of skew isn't w32tm's fault. --Steve On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Thanks to all so far! The drift goes off into minutes apart. I presume somewhere in those TechNet articles is something (registry hack to workstations via GPO) that can have servers and workstations sync with the DC every 1-2 hours? (At first skimming, it's not all that clear.) Thanks again -Original Message- From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Time sync How much time skew are we talking about here? While MSFT will only support w32tm accuracy within 1-2 seconds, in practice I have found it to be stable within a tenth of a second or less, and would not feel compelled to look into very-high-accuracy NTP clients for regular non-scientific applications. Do you have separate systems recording the timestamps of an incoming call and the creation of a linked medical record, or are things unreliable even on a single host? --Steve On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I'm sure I and many others have asked this (but are still stumped). Ken S's reply yesterday pointing to ultimately a chain of TechNet articles has shed some light and will start us digging. Microsoft admits W32Time is sloppy (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939322) - mainly meant to make Kerberos v5
RE: LAptops
Last time I worked with the Vostro line they claimed they were for Corp type of work but lack of a docking station for them made them more for road warriors. That said I would reconsider the Latitude line and look at getting something that you could run with XP mode. I have not worked enough with Windows 8 yet to say anything about working with a VM on that platform. I have run several packages that claimed to only run in XP and would not install in 7 but ran just fine from XP mode. Jon Subject: LAptops Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 15:40:52 + From: nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Hi Has anyone purchased any Dell Dell Vostro 2520 laptops And put windows xp on them We run XP as we have software that will not run on windows 7 at the moment due to cost we cant upgrade this so we are stuck on XP On dells site they don't list drivers for xp (I know some of the latitude systems are supported with xp but its all down to cost as they are more expensive and I have a budget to work with) Just wondered if anyone had found xp drivers and was running one of the vostro 2520 machines with windows xp Nigel Parker Systems Engineer Ultraframe (UK) Ltd Tel: 01200 452329 Fax: 01200 452201 Web: www.ultraframe.com Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. The statements and opinions expressed in this email are my own and may not represent those of Ultraframe (UK) Ltd. This email is subject to copyright and the information contained in it is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is sent out only for intended recipient(s). Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not an intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or other use or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and unlawful. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Enterprise task scheduler
I'd hazard a guess that task scheduling includes the ability to run 'repeatable jobs' at a set time. Repeatable jobs on the other hand could be as simple as a VBScript file - but VBS files don't run themselves at a set time per day (and all the reporting, delegation etc. that comes with that type of app) Cheers Ken From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 5 January 2013 8:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Enterprise task scheduler That was where I was confused as well. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Honestly, I'm not sure I see a difference between repeatable jobs and scheduled tasks, other than nomenclature. :) I use Orchestrator for this at a couple of clients and it seems to work just fine and the reports are sweet. YMMV. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 6:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Enterprise task scheduler Yep - Opalis. Shame that - there aren't many packages in that spot. Winbatch might be your better bet, in that case. It's been a long time since I played with those products, too. Kurt On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Adam Meixler ad...@interlink1.commailto:ad...@interlink1.com wrote: I had thought the same thing! (was Opalis?) Some googling seems to suggest that it's not meant for Task Scheduling any more. It can be made to do it, but its strong suit is repeatable Jobs rather than scheduled tasks now. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Enterprise task scheduler It's been a lot of years since I touched it (more than 10!) and it's since been acquired by MSFT and rolled into the SC suite, but Orchestrator comes to mind... Might be worth a look. Kurt On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Adam Meixler ad...@interlink1.commailto:ad...@interlink1.com wrote: Happy New Year everyone! I was hoping to get The Lists opinion on a good, un-bloated enterprise task scheduler. Right now we have about a thousand tasks scattered across different servers using the windows scheduled task service and it's just not doing it for us. It'd be nice if jobs could be pushed down to workers as they were available vs. being scheduled on specific instances, but we at least want a central control of these jobs. We're open to any ideas that don't involve CA Thanks all ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Time sync
Can ESX support 64 vCPUs or 4TB RAM per guest yet? Or 64 hosts per cluster? Seems like there are all sorts of corner cases where one product has functionality the other doesn't yet. For 99% of things they are feature compatible. It's all about the management and operations tools now. Hypervisors are almost commoditised, and will be within the next version or two. Cheers Ken From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Saturday, 5 January 2013 6:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync Cost. HyperV give something that VMWare doesn't? I laughed so hard I think I peed myself a little... Sheesh, you can't even extend disks on a running virtual under HyperV. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 11:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Time sync I was thinking the same thing. Actually IMHO VM still does more than Hyper-V does... Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.orgmailto:ezi...@lifespan.org ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin