RE: MX backup service

[Ralph Smith]

I use a SpamTitan virtual appliance.  It has worked well for us for the
past few years.



From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MX backup service


Thanks Ralph. 
How about spam. Do you use Dyn spam filter or your own or a combination?

--T


On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Ralph Smith
 wrote:



Been using that for a few years.  It works and has been helpful
when we have lost our Internet connection.  There is no insight into
what's happening, it just queues up messages and keeps attempting to
deliver them.  If you wanted to check if there are undelivered messages
in the queue, for example, you can't do that.



From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 1:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MX backup service


I'm thinking of getting Dyn MX backup service. 
http://dyn.com/email/dyn-email-backup-mx/


Any good or bad experiences with it? Would you recommend another
service?

Thanks
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RE: MX backup service

[Ralph Smith]

Been using that for a few years.  It works and has been helpful when we
have lost our Internet connection.  There is no insight into what's
happening, it just queues up messages and keeps attempting to deliver
them.  If you wanted to check if there are undelivered messages in the
queue, for example, you can't do that.



From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 1:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MX backup service


I'm thinking of getting Dyn MX backup service. 
http://dyn.com/email/dyn-email-backup-mx/


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Thanks
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RE: GFi Mailarchiver - Was Exchange mail archiving solution

[Ralph Smith]

OK thanks.  We aren't currently running full SQL for anything else, but
we are also looking at a Time and Attendance product that requires it so
that may factor into the decision on both products.

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: GFi Mailarchiver - Was Exchange mail archiving solution

 

I am running full SQL for both. I think the added speed and the savings
in storage space make it well worth it. But we have the SQL license for
other things...so that may be a factor for you.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 9:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: GFi Mailarchiver - Was Exchange mail archiving solution

 

T -

Just wondering - I'm just starting a trial of GFi MailArcher 2012,
moving away from a previous solution.

Are you using purely SQL server for indexing and message storage, or SQL
and file storage?  They advised me to use just SQL for my org, which has
about 200 mailboxes.  I'm running the trial with SQL Express 2012 and
file storage, so far everything seems to work quite well.

 

Ralph 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange mail archiving solution

 

I'll add GFI Mailarchiver to the list. Been running it for years and I
am very happy. Last few versions have been downright snappy to use. Tech
support is outstanding. I would not recommend it for a large org though,
we are running about a 1000 mailboxes with 7 years of email on it and it
is doing fine.



From: Tigran K [tigr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange mail archiving solution

Thanks you all. I'll look into the solutions suggested. 

 

--T

 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Tigran K  wrote:
> I'm looking for an open source or freeware or really inexpensive email
> archiving solutions.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Running Exchange 2010 and Outlook on all clients.
>
> Thanks

Better to ask on the sister list to this one, for Exchange.

However, this one has been around for a long time:
https://www.mailarchiva.com/

There are a myriad of others, including from Barracuda, ranging in
price from inexpensive to gold-plated and comes in a diamond-encrusted
case.

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RE: GFi Mailarchiver - Was Exchange mail archiving solution

[Ralph Smith]

Sorry, I meant that for Jim.

 

Ralph 

 

From: Ralph Smith 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 9:08 AM
To: 'NT System Admin Issues'
Subject: GFi Mailarchiver - Was Exchange mail archiving solution

 

T -

Just wondering - I'm just starting a trial of GFi MailArcher 2012,
moving away from a previous solution.

Are you using purely SQL server for indexing and message storage, or SQL
and file storage?  They advised me to use just SQL for my org, which has
about 200 mailboxes.  I'm running the trial with SQL Express 2012 and
file storage, so far everything seems to work quite well.

 

Ralph 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange mail archiving solution

 

I'll add GFI Mailarchiver to the list. Been running it for years and I
am very happy. Last few versions have been downright snappy to use. Tech
support is outstanding. I would not recommend it for a large org though,
we are running about a 1000 mailboxes with 7 years of email on it and it
is doing fine.



From: Tigran K [tigr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange mail archiving solution

Thanks you all. I'll look into the solutions suggested. 

 

--T

 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Tigran K  wrote:
> I'm looking for an open source or freeware or really inexpensive email
> archiving solutions.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Running Exchange 2010 and Outlook on all clients.
>
> Thanks

Better to ask on the sister list to this one, for Exchange.

However, this one has been around for a long time:
https://www.mailarchiva.com/

There are a myriad of others, including from Barracuda, ranging in
price from inexpensive to gold-plated and comes in a diamond-encrusted
case.

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GFi Mailarchiver - Was Exchange mail archiving solution

[Ralph Smith]

T -

Just wondering - I'm just starting a trial of GFi MailArcher 2012,
moving away from a previous solution.

Are you using purely SQL server for indexing and message storage, or SQL
and file storage?  They advised me to use just SQL for my org, which has
about 200 mailboxes.  I'm running the trial with SQL Express 2012 and
file storage, so far everything seems to work quite well.

 

Ralph 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange mail archiving solution

 

I'll add GFI Mailarchiver to the list. Been running it for years and I
am very happy. Last few versions have been downright snappy to use. Tech
support is outstanding. I would not recommend it for a large org though,
we are running about a 1000 mailboxes with 7 years of email on it and it
is doing fine.



From: Tigran K [tigr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange mail archiving solution

Thanks you all. I'll look into the solutions suggested. 

 

--T

 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Tigran K  wrote:
> I'm looking for an open source or freeware or really inexpensive email
> archiving solutions.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Running Exchange 2010 and Outlook on all clients.
>
> Thanks

Better to ask on the sister list to this one, for Exchange.

However, this one has been around for a long time:
https://www.mailarchiva.com/

There are a myriad of others, including from Barracuda, ranging in
price from inexpensive to gold-plated and comes in a diamond-encrusted
case.

Kurt


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RE: Joomla site move

[Ralph Smith]

I don't believe you would be able to import the Joomla 1.0.15 database directly 
into the most recent version of Joomla and have it work.

Set up a VM with LAMP of XAMPP or WAMP - you may need to make sure you have the 
same versions of MYSQL and PHP as on the current host server.  Install the 
current site on the VM with the exported files and get it working.  Snapshot or 
backup the VM.  

Research the upgrade path on the Joomla site and upgrade step by step, making 
snapshots or backups after each successful upgrade.

You will most likely run in to a problem of the current version 1.x template 
not working with newer versions of Joomla, so you may need to find updated 
versions of the template or find an alternative.

You may also run into problems with any plugins or extensions they have 
installed - again newer versions or alternatives may need to be installed along 
the way.

The goal would be to get the VM updated to the same versions of Joomla, MYSQL 
and PHP that are on the target host.  At that point it is trivial to transfer 
it to the new host.


Depending on the complexity of the web site it may be easier and cleaner to 
just recreated it directly in a newer version.


-Original Message-
From: Laurence [mailto:laurence.chi...@jalapeno-bs.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 4:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Joomla site move

Hi All

I’m new to Joomla so please forgive any glaring idiocies

I have a new client who have a Joomla based site, the site being on Joomla 
version 1.0.15, the current web hosts are less than helpful and so the client 
wants to move his site away to another hosting provider

the current hosting provider will not allow access to the site control panel 
for FTP access nor access to the MySQL control panel for backups. but will zip 
up the site files and database backup and send them across

question:

can I set up a new hosting provider with latest versions of Joomla, MySQL etc. 
and just copy in the site files and restore the database

I know I will have to tweak the database connection from Joomla to the MySQL db 
but will the rest just copy over

I’m going to set this up in the lab before trying it live

thank you

Laurence

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RE: InfoSec compliance

[Ralph Smith]

Paper signed on hire, annual training in which we review policies and
they sign a new paper.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: InfoSec compliance

 

Assuming you guys have employees confirm they've read and understand the
computer use policies, how do you guys deliver and track this so later
you can say "look here's our confirmation that you said you did read and
understand it"?

 

E-mail?

Web survery / test?

Paper?

Other?

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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RE: Latest flash

[Ralph Smith]

This seems to be the case now.  On the page to download the uninstaller
(http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/uninstall-flash-player-windows.h
tml), they used to have both 32 and 64 bit versions, now it also has
just one file with the note: 

 

"The Flash Player uninstaller executes on both 64-bit and 32-bit version
of the Windows operating systems."

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Latest flash

 

It's one installer for both versions.  On x64 systems, both are
installed by default.

 

-Original Message-

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu 
]

Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:04 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Latest flash

 

So really what I was asking, does anyone know if adobe dropped the x64
versions.

The link you provided doesn't mention x32 or x64?

 


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RE: Looking for an odd item

[Ralph Smith]

Then I would try a USB adapter in the Win 98 box.  Depending on how
badly you need this, you could try a crossover cable to a USB print
server with the print server connected to the USB port on the printer.
Something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833139009.  
 
These things don't always work with every printer, so no guarantees.



From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for an odd item



Ralph,

Unit is a MPc3001 Aficio printer by Ricoh.

It can have both USB and network connections on at the same time.

Daniel


On Apr 17, 2012 2:53 PM, "Ralph Smith" 
wrote:


Just looked at a couple of USB add in cards on Newegg that
claimed to be Windows 98 compatible.  You said the printer is already on
the network?  What kind of printer is it - does it support having the
USB and network connections in use simultaneously? Not all do.

 

From: Mack Bolan [mailto:mack.bola...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Looking for an odd item

 

Well given that Win98 - ME is ~6 years past EoL outlook is not
good.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifean18

Mack S. Bolan




On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Daniel Rodriguez
 wrote:

Jack,

You may be right. My issue with that is if the controller has
USB Driver for Windows 98 SE.

Daniel

On Apr 17, 2012 11:57 AM, "Kramer, Jack"
 wrote:

No such thing exists. Buy a USB controller.

 


Jack Kramer
Manager of Information Technology
Office of Communications and Brand Strategy 

Michigan State University
w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955

 

From: Daniel Rodriguez 
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues

Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:14:09 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues


Subject: Re: Looking for an odd item

 

Close... But no cigar.

This device still plugs into the computer on the
USB Side.

What I am looking for is somthing that plugs
into the parallel connector on the PC Side and then to the USB port on
the printer.

Thanks, though.

Daniel

On Apr 17, 2012 10:43 AM, "Lee Douglas"
 wrote:


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp
No=3276555&Sku=ULT40113 

 

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Daniel
Rodriguez  wrote:

To all,

I know that there is a USB to Parallel
Centronics Interface Cable.

But, is there a 25 pin Parallel to USB Interface
Cable?

I have an old PC that is running Windows 98 SE,
and I need to replace the printer. It's not on the network, else I could
print to the new printer via IP. Plus, management doesn't want it on the
network.

Anyone seen an animal like this? And if so, who
carries it?

TIA

Daniel

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RE: Looking for an odd item

[Ralph Smith]

Actually OP noted that the computer is not on the network but the printer is:

 

“I have an old PC that is running Windows 98 SE, and I need to replace the 
printer. It's not on the network, else I could print to the new printer via IP. 
Plus, management doesn't want it on the network.”

“Printer is already conncted to the network, so cross-over is scratched out.”

He also noted that he needed a Parallel to USB adapter, and got a bunch of 
people giving him links to USB to Parallel adapters.

 

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for an odd item

 

OP already noted that it's not on the network and that management doesn't want 
it on the network. 



Christopher Bodnar 
Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture 
and Engineering Services 

Tel 610-807-6459  
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 
christopher_bod...@glic.com   

 

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From:Ken Cornetet  
To:"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date:04/17/2012 02:25 PM 
Subject:RE: Looking for an odd item 






Is the 98 box on the network? If not, can it be? Then you can just do network 
printing. 
  
Ken Cornetet 812.482.8499 
To err is human - to moo, bovine. 
  
From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com  ] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for an odd item 
  

Printer is already conncted to the network, so cross-over is scratched out. 

I am leaning to install a USB adapter that supports USB 2.0, but am concerned 
about tbe other devices connected to the box, already. Don't mind taking the 
cover off to perform some minor sugery. Just don't want to lombotomize the 
patient in the process. 

Daniel 
On Apr 17, 2012 11:20 AM, "Ken Cornetet"  wrote: 
I don’t think such a thing exists, although I could be wrong. 
  
I think your best bet (provided this is a desktop machine) is to find a USB 
card that has Windows 98 drivers. 
  
Next best bet would be to install a second NIC and use a crossover cable to 
connect to the printer (set it up for a private IP space). 
  
Ken Cornetet 812.482.8499   
To err is human - to moo, bovine. 
  
From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com  ] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Looking for an odd item 
  

To all, 

I know that there is a USB to Parallel Centronics Interface Cable. 

But, is there a 25 pin Parallel to USB Interface Cable? 

I have an old PC that is running Windows 98 SE, and I need to replace the 
printer. It's not on the network, else I could print to the new printer via IP. 
Plus, management doesn't want it on the network. 

Anyone seen an animal like this? And if so, who carries it? 

TIA 

Daniel 

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RE: Looking for an odd item

[Ralph Smith]

Just looked at a couple of USB add in cards on Newegg that claimed to be
Windows 98 compatible.  You said the printer is already on the network?
What kind of printer is it - does it support having the USB and network
connections in use simultaneously? Not all do.

 

From: Mack Bolan [mailto:mack.bola...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Looking for an odd item

 

Well given that Win98 - ME is ~6 years past EoL outlook is not good.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifean18

Mack S. Bolan




On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Daniel Rodriguez 
wrote:

Jack,

You may be right. My issue with that is if the controller has USB Driver
for Windows 98 SE.

Daniel

On Apr 17, 2012 11:57 AM, "Kramer, Jack"  wrote:

No such thing exists. Buy a USB controller.

 


Jack Kramer
Manager of Information Technology
Office of Communications and Brand Strategy 

Michigan State University
w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955

 

From: Daniel Rodriguez 
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues

Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:14:09 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues


Subject: Re: Looking for an odd item

 

Close... But no cigar.

This device still plugs into the computer on the USB
Side.

What I am looking for is somthing that plugs into the
parallel connector on the PC Side and then to the USB port on the
printer.

Thanks, though.

Daniel

On Apr 17, 2012 10:43 AM, "Lee Douglas"
 wrote:


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp
No=3276555&Sku=ULT40113 

 

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Daniel Rodriguez
 wrote:

To all,

I know that there is a USB to Parallel Centronics
Interface Cable.

But, is there a 25 pin Parallel to USB Interface Cable?

I have an old PC that is running Windows 98 SE, and I
need to replace the printer. It's not on the network, else I could print
to the new printer via IP. Plus, management doesn't want it on the
network.

Anyone seen an animal like this? And if so, who carries
it?

TIA

Daniel

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RE: Looking for an odd item

[Ralph Smith]

How about throwing a USB card in the computer?

 

From: leedoug...@pellis.com [mailto:leedoug...@pellis.com] On Behalf Of
Lee Douglas
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Looking for an odd item

 

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp
No=3276555&Sku=ULT40113 

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Daniel Rodriguez 
wrote:

To all,

I know that there is a USB to Parallel Centronics Interface Cable.

But, is there a 25 pin Parallel to USB Interface Cable?

I have an old PC that is running Windows 98 SE, and I need to replace
the printer. It's not on the network, else I could print to the new
printer via IP. Plus, management doesn't want it on the network.

Anyone seen an animal like this? And if so, who carries it?

TIA

Daniel

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RE: Worth some consideration...

[Ralph Smith]

I keep a few important but seldom used passwords, account numbers, PINs etc. in 
my wallet, but they are unlabeled and somewhat obfuscated using a simple code I 
made up as well as inserting extra characters.  Seems a little weird to do when 
I write it out like that.

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Worth some consideration...

Nothing is without risk I'm in favor of keeping passwords on a piece of paper, 
or even better, an electronic equivalent such as password safe or keepass.

Given the number of passwords folks have to use (or at least should use - using 
the same password for multiple accounts is of course a sin), even the best of 
us require help with remembering them - the problem then becomes how best to do 
it.

Better the piece of paper in your wallet/purse than the piece of paper 
unattended somewhere near your computer.

Kurt

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 21:49, Mathew Shember  
wrote:
>
> But if they have to keep pulling out the note to enter the password; 
> doesn’t that increase the chances of “over the shoulder” password learning?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:13 PM
>
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Worth some consideration..
>
>
>
> Don't be obtuse. I made no recommendation with my statement.
>
> If you're looking for options, I recommend fully formed but easy to 
> type sentences of at least 20 characters. If they must be written 
> down, advise your clients to keep them in their wallets.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 16:51, Mack Bolan  wrote:
>
> So that makes sticky notes ok?
>
> Mack S. Bolan
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
> Perhaps you might want to rethink your threat model:
>
> http://www.darkreading.com/database-security/167901020/security/attack
> s-breaches/232601717/new-verizon-breach-data-shows-outside-threat-domi
> nated-2011.html
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 13:50, Doug Hampshire 
> wrote:
>
> Are you sure about that? The vast majority of security incidents 
> happen on the inside of your network from known individuals. Also it 
> was addressing offline brute force attacks. Most online systems have 
> lockout policies and other countermeasures to limit exposure to brute force 
> attacks.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Crawford, Scott 
> 
> wrote:
>
> I'd rather have "good" passwords written down on a sticky note 
> accessible only to a limited number of coworkers than "bad" passwords 
> that can be exploited by any black-hat on the internet.
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
>
> 
>
> From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG
> Sent: 3/15/2012 11:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Worth some consideration...
>
>
>
> Wait… I’m NOT supposed to write my password on a sticky note?  How am 
> I supposed to let my coworker use my login, then?
>
>
>
> Joe Heaton
>
> ITB – Windows Server Support
>
>
>
> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:49 AM
> To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Worth some consideration...
>
>
>
> That's an implementation problem.
>
>
>
> If I choose a passphrase of "Mary had a little lamb" then of course 
> that will be relatively weak as passphrases go.  That that is not an 
> inherent weakness of passphrases, but of people.
>
>
>
> Lots of things are undermined by poor choices.   Completely random 20 
> character passwords with a unicode character set are undermined by 
> having them posted on sticky notes.
>
>
>
> We didn't need a whole article to point that out.
>
>
>
> ASB
>
> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
>
> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
>
> http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/03/passphrases-only-marginal
> ly-more-secure-than-passwords-because-of-poor-choices.ars
>
> By Dan Goodin
> Ars Technica
> March 14, 2012
>
> Passwords that contain multiple words aren't as resistant as some 
> researchers expected to certain types of cracking attacks, mainly 
> because users frequently pick phrases that occur regularly in everyday 
> speech, a recently published paper concludes.
>
> Security managers have long regarded passphrases as an 
> easy-to-remember way to pack dozens of characters into the string that 
> must be entered to access online accounts or to unlock private 
> encryption keys. The more characters, the thinking goes, the harder it 
> is for attackers to guess or otherwise crack the code, since there are 
> orders of magnitude more possible combinations.
>
> But a pair of computer scientists from Cambridge University has found 
> that a significant percentage of passphrases used in a real-world 
> scenario were easy to guess. Using a dictionary containing 20,656 
> phrases of movie titles, sports team names, and other pro

RE: New to virtualization

[Ralph Smith]

Absolutely.  Once you have virtualization it's so damn easy to just
bring up a new server when needed.  You do have beware server sprawl,
and more VMs means more machines to monitor, patch, etc., but the value
of having the flexibility to move machines around, to quickly provision
new servers, to address disaster recovery issues can't be overstated.  I
started incorporating virtualization slowly at my not-for-profit about 4
years ago, and didn't get Datacenter licenses.  Now I'm in the process
of flattening the host machines and putting datacenter on them.

 

BES is a great example of having a single task server.  When I had it
sharing a physical machine with some other products it was a real pain
because it was always having issues that seemed only a reboot would
solve.  Now its it's own VM, it still needs fairly frequent reboots
(although not as often as before, new install, new version), but no big
deal - nobody even notices.  

 

I'll admit to not seeing in the beginning how far I'd be taking
virtualization, and should heve gotten more licensing, more memory and
more disk space up front.




From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: New to virtualization


If I were doing licensing from scratch, I'd go Datacenter, even
accounting for the CPU licensing, it's not all that much more.  The
ability to add and move servers, "thinly" provision servers, etc makes a
a much more robust environment.
 
When I say thinly provision servers, I mean, making a server responsible
for only one task, such as AV management, BES, whatever, without putting
additional duties on it as is common in a physical server environment.
 
David: of the physical servers, if you had your druthers and could
isolate the tasks out to an individual server, how many servers would
you really have?  Or are all those servers only doing one task, already?


On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ralph Smith
 wrote:


"However, if I went w/ 3 Windows Datacenter licenses, for a
small increase in price - I would get unlimited VMs? "

Datacenter is licensed per CPU - those are dual CPU servers so
you would need 6 Datacenter licenses.

 

From: David Mazzaccaro
[mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04 AM 

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: New to virtualization





 

Hi all,

I am starting to investigate moving our aging network
infrastructure into the virtual world.

~ 10 servers, 6-7 years old

Windows 2003 domain

Exchange 2003 

Citrix 4.0 farm

~190 users

After some initial discussions w/ a reseller, here's what they
are recommending:

(3) DL 380 G7 servers (to host the VMs) ~$18,000

(1) Net App FAS2240 (this is the SAN that would host 12 600GB
drives of storage for the VMs) ~$20,000

VMWare essentials plus kit (VMware software) ~$5200

(3) MS Windows 2008 R2 Enterprise (this would allow the 3 HP
servers to run 4 Windows 2008 VMs each)

I guess the way it would work is that the VMs would reside on
the SAN, and the 3 hosts would call up the SAN to load each VM utilizing
the host's CPU, RAM, NIC, etc.)... right?

I have meetings scheduled w/ 2 other vendors, but verbally both
have started the conversation along the same path as above.

Being very new to VM, does the above scenario seem to make
sense?  

It is hard for me to imagine all that traffic going between the
SAN and the host servers w/o creating a huge bottleneck (over gig
Ethernet)

Do people recommend virtualizing every server?  

Domain controllers? Exchange? Citrix farm (4 server)?

Shouldn't something be left physical?

Is 7 TB of storage enough (probably only 3 usable after array
config)?  

Is the net app a decent appliance? $20k sounds cheap to me...

I have done a little more reading, and from what I understand w/
3 Windows Enterprise licenses, I would be limiting myself to 12 VMs.

However, if I went w/ 3 Windows Datacenter licenses, for a small
increase in price - I would get unlimited VMs? 

Which would allow for actually having a testing environment, and
better patch deployment?

Thx


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RE: Favorite corporate PCs?

[Ralph Smith]

Same here – non-profit, all Dell.  We also decided to stick with Dell to stay 
standardized.  I looked around last year and didn’t see a big enough price 
savings to make me want to move away from Dell.  We did find that we could get 
better pricing on Dell from one of our vendors (Zones) so we have been 
purchasing Dell desktops through them for the last several months.

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Favorite corporate PCs?

 

We're about the same as you, NP on State Dell contract. Honestly we asked 
ourselves this question about 2 yrs ago and we decided that it would cause way 
more stress on the support staff and cost more in the long run to not be 
standardized. YMMV 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families
 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues  
Subject: Favorite corporate PCs? 
 

We purchase a number of PCs each month as part of a rotation cycle.  I've been 
a Dell customer for years, but lately don't think Dell has been offering the 
best price we can get (we are non-profit and state/GSA, although non-profit 
pricing is usually better).  So I'm looking around.  For desktops I'm not too 
picky as long as specs are similar.  

 

HP?  Lenovo?  Big Lots?

 

Thanks,

Tom

 

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RE: Printer/Copier/MFP Contract Renewal

[Ralph Smith]

Huh, our experience pretty much mirrors yours - our Konica-Minolta MFPs
machines are mediocre and the vendor is about the same, our Toshiba MFPs
are significantly better and the service from the vendor is much better.
Interesting. 

 

 

From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 12:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Printer/Copier/MFP Contract Renewal

 

I have to second Ben's opinion on the copiers. We currently have two
different vendors and one is far and away better than the other. Both
brand copiers have their issues but I would want to go with the better
vendor for the support. FYI, in my situation the better vendor supports
the Toshiba copiers and the other vendor support Konica-Minolta. 

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Paul Hutchings
 wrote:
> Right now I'll keep it a very broad question - who have you had good
and bad
> experiences with?

 This is a perennial question on this list.  :-)  The consensus seems
to be that all printers suck, and it's the local vendor's service and
support which matter far more.  That's certainly my experience.

-- Ben

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RE: Home Throughput Issue

[Ralph Smith]

When you say he adjusted the speed and duplex what did he do?  If he
simply set them both to auto I've seen that not work many times and
cause poor network performance. 

 

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Home Throughput Issue

 

He has swapped cable with another machine that didn't exhibit the
problem - same result.

 

Different ports on the router - same result.

 

So it appears to be an issue with the laptop's Ethernet port.  It just
seems weird that it would have lower throughput than the 802.11g
wireless connection.




Roger Wright
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legally blind.

 

 





On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Miguel Gonzalez <
miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es> wrote:

Or maybe the ethernet ports in the router are no good. 

 

You have to check several things:

 

- The NIC in the laptop/workstation.

 

- The ethernet ports in the router. You can check itusing a hub/switch.

 

- Maybe your cables are wrong. Sometimes it happens the wiring of your
ethernet cables is not right. I've seen cables that were crimped
manually with the wrong settings and that slowed down the network
throughput.

 

Miguel

 



De: "Ziots, Edward" 
Para: NT System Admin Issues  
Enviado: lunes 5 de diciembre de 2011 16:53
Asunto: RE: Home Throughput Issue

I would also take a look at the packets when he is connected wirelessly,
and wired, and see if you see a higher level of duplicate acks, or fast
transmissions, which might spell issues with the physical media ( NIC,
Cable, Port on the Wireless router, etc etc)

 

Sincerely,

EZ

 

Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

email:ezi...@lifespan.org  

phone:401-639-3505 

 

 

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 10:42 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Home Throughput Issue

 

Sounds like you've eliminated most everything except the network
interface in this one machine.

Can you add/replace the network card?  You didn't say if it is a desktop
or laptop?

If it is a laptop, I'd test at a different location.  Friend, co-worker
or some other place.

If a desktop, slap a cheap nic in and see what happens.

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 10:15 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Home Throughput Issue

 

A colleague has a problem that is stumping us:

 

He has broadband at home and when connecting wirelessly to his router
his throughput is significantly slower than when using the Ethernet
connection.  Speedtest.net says he's getting in excess of 20Mbps down
and 5Mbps up via a wireless connection, but with a wired connection to
the router his reported speed drops to 5 down/1 up, and the difference
is readily apparent when browsing.

 

Connecting with a wired connection from another machine, however,
doesn't not report a slower speed and closely matches the wireless
speed.

 

He's updated the drivers for the NIC, adjusted the speed and duplex
settings, disabled the software firewall, tried other ports on the
router, swapped cables, but cannot improved his throughput when using an
Ethernet connection from this machine.  It seems odd that his wireless
connection would be noticeably faster than his Eethernet connection.

 

Anything else he can check?


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RE: Big brother, not many care that he's here.

[Ralph Smith]

>The big difference is that the consumer has purchased "Big Brother".
It's not been forced on us by the government. 


Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean they aren't
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RE: Cat6 Brain Fart

[Ralph Smith]

Each switch port will independently match the speed and duplex of the
connected PC.

-Original Message-
From: gro...@beachcomp.com [mailto:gro...@beachcomp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Cat6 Brain Fart

Hi gang,

I know I'll probably get laughed at for this but
If I have a mix of 100 and 1000 port PCs on a network, will it bring the
whole network to 100 or will the switch automatically adjust between the
2?

Thanks!

Dave




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RE: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online

[Ralph Smith]

The OP said it was a DC.  I've done this before without any problems.  I
usually disable the DHCP server just to be safe. 

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Bringing a Win2K3 server back online

 

It's just a member server.  You should have no issues with bringing it
back online.

Just be sure to rejoin the domain.

-ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker

Sent from my Motorola Droid

On Nov 22, 2011 9:32 AM, "Bob Hartung"  wrote:

We had a file server at a remote location suffer corruption from a
software install gone bad. The server would appear to be booting
normally, making it to the Windows 2003 splash screen with the progress
indicator. Unfortunately, the screen would then go black and the system
would reboot. The same thing would happen trying to boot in Safe Mode
and Last Known Good Configuration.

This server is the only server at this remote location and acts as a
file server, DHCP server and domain controller. This server and PCs at
this location are in their own subnet (172.17.x.x) but is a member of
our single AD domain. The subnet at my location is 172.16.x.x.

Since this location doesn't have an IT person on staff, it was decided
they'd ship to server back to me so I could restore it from a tape
backup. When I received the server, I decided I'd start by trying a
Repair Install. It couldn't hurt since I was eventually planning on a
restore from tape anyway. At this point, the server has been offline for
about a week.

The Repair Install actually seems to have worked. The system came up
with its normal desktop background but then stopped before loading the
desktop icons with a requirement to activate the operating system. I did
that and the desktop came up. I have not hooked the server up to the
network here yet.

After all that, here's my question. Will I cause a lot of AD problems if
I assign this server a 172.16.x.x IP address and bring it up and let it
sync up with our domain? I want to make sure it's functioning properly.
Also, I've never done a Repair Install before. Does a Repair Install
change things to a system that need to be manually reconfigured?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.


--

Bob Hartung
Dir of I.T.
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215  
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RE: Anybody else having large failure rates of Dell Power Supplies, SFF Model Optplex 390 and/or 790?

[Ralph Smith]

We've had an issue with the power supplies on Optiplex GX520 SFF Dells -
we were having something like a 25% fail rate while they were still
under warranty. Dell sent us a few spares to keep on hand so we didn't
have to wait for them to ship replacements, but we still had to go
through the whole tech support routine each time to get a replacement
for the spare.  We would get no power, flashing amber power light,
sudden system shutdowns.  In our case the problem was the fan in the
power supply failing.

Since they've been off warranty we've just been replacing the fan
ourselves and putting them back in production.

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anybody else having large failure rates of Dell Power Supplys,
SFF Model Optplex 390 and/or 790?

We're having a very large failure rate of computer power supplies in 2
of our brand new labs. These are 2 labs of 32 computers each... one lab
is Dell Optiplex 390 SFFs, the other is Dell Optiplex 790 SFFs. I think
they use the exact same PS.

Issues are either A) No power and no lights, B) Blinking yellow power
lights and won't turn on, or C) *Poof* smoke.

We have 8 failures in the past month out of 64 computers. I'm just
curious if anybody else on the list is seeing similar failures for
recent SFF dells...

Sales rep contacted, I'm awaiting response.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

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RE: MDT and WIM Deployment?

[Ralph Smith]

I'm also just testing this out.  I found this free ebook by Greg Sheilds
to be helpful.  It's more about combining MDT with Windows Deployment
Services (WDS) and Windows Automated Installation Toolkit (WAIK).
Pretty much following his tutorial we've got this set up and are
upgrading WinXP  machines and it is working great.  
 
Automating Windows 7 Installation for Desktop and VDI Environments
http://nexus.realtimepublishers.com/awidv.php



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MDT and WIM Deployment?



1. Diving into MDT.

2. Wow, quite the product!

 

3. Any good resources you know of? 

Loving this site and learning lots there:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/deploymentguys/

 

4. However, still struggling with yet the simplest tasks:

I'm just looking to 

a. Boot from USB/DVD

b. Format Drive 0

c: Push WIM

d: Reboot into the WIM'd drive.  


The WIM I am using is a thick image with all Sysprep, domain join, etc
already taking care of. I've been using this WIM for ages and know it
works great. The MDT wrappers and wizards are not needed at all.  I'll
dive into those later.

 

I have a custom task sequence that includes:

Format and Partition Disk

Install OS

 

That should be all I need, right?  Is the default task "Install
Application" needed?  I know to update the MDT share, update media, and
copy the Content folder to the USB key. (It boots fine)

 

Yet it reboots right after the format and the WIM is not pushed onto the
drive...?

 

Any quick pointers?

Thanks!

 

-Sam

 

 

 

 

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RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...)

[Ralph Smith]

>From a link at windowsitpro.com, which had some interesting articles in
this month's issue on Server 8

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516



-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 1:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac
Mini server arrived today...)

My bad. You are right. MSDN only.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 1:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac
Mini server arrived today...)

I'd love to be wrong on this, but I don't think technet subscribers can
get it.  At least, I can't find it on technet and this link seems to
indicate MSDN only.

http://blogs.technet.com/b/xuzonne/archive/2011/09/20/windows-server-8-d
eveloper-build-preview-available-for-download.aspx


-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac
Mini server arrived today...)

Any technet or msdn subscriber can download the Win8 Server preview.

The EULA seems to disagree in places with my MVP NDA, so I'm going to
only speak in broad generalities. But I'm guessing that most MSDN or
Technet subscribers could tell you anything you want to know. :-P

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac
Mini server arrived today...)

I've read a bit about what Server 8 (And the new Hyper-V) is going to
offer... and it sounds amazing. If people are able to share more info on
it, I'm looking forward to this new setup.

If it's under NDA, I understand and await patiently for the details to
emerge as they should.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Crawford, Scott
[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Fri, 04 Nov 2011
09:27:29 -0700
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac
Mini server arrived today...)


> The server 8 stuff sounds like it will automate some of this and 
> largely obviate the need for clustering at all. Have you had a chance 
> to play with it at all?
> 
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 11:19 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac 
> Mini server arrived today...)
> 
> I have not yet clustered my Hyper-V hosts, but I do have an automatic 
> backup running from one to the other (and vice-versa).
> 
> I do intend to reformat and reinstall with Win8 and do shared-nothing 
> clustering.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> 
> From: Andrew S. Baker
> [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac 
> Mini server arrived today...)
> 
> As I learned painfully at home last year. :)
> 
> Not that I didn't know, of course, but that sort of thing is supposed 
> to happen to everyone else (or so the story goes) ASB
> 
> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
> 
> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Jonathan Link 
> mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Instead of going (5 or 10) to 1, I suggest (5 or 10) to 2, though.  At

> least you have some functionality if you have physical failure of a
host.
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mark Boeck 
> mailto:netadmin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Most ppl can run 5 - 10 of their existing servers as virtual machines 
> on a single HOST server.
> That gives u an idea of how underutilized most hardware is.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Matthew W. Ross 
> mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>> wrote:
> So, since this has come up, I'm curious on how much processing power 
> is actually needed for most services?
> 
> I have some Quad-Core Xeons which are absolutely underutilized. They 
> are doing their jobs (usually serving user home folders and standard 
> Active Directory duties) with plenty of horsepower to spare. So it
makes me wonder:
> Has anybody tried Windows Server on an Atom?
> 
> Take all the other bottlenecks out of the equation: Plenty of RAM, 
> fast HD or SSD... does the 1.8 dual core Atom (or the Socket 1155
> Celeron) handle most ta

RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...)

[Ralph Smith]

Very nice.  Thanks for the info, that's helpful.

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 4:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini 
server arrived today...)

7K a month for 14 buildings around the city.  The 100 MB is fiber from the 
buildings to one of two different Telco CO's and the CO's are interconnected by 
dedicated fiber to us. Then one extra direct fiber run from my building to our 
ISP.

11K per month when we go to gig. And that set up will be dedicated fiber runs 
from 13 buildings back to one single location, and then a dedicated fiber run 
to our ISP.  All new fiber with a 10 year commitment.  If we want to light the 
fiber up faster that is free, just up to us to swap out the equipment at the 
endpoints.  There are lots of extra dark pairs if we need them in the bundles.


-Original Message-----
From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini 
server arrived today...)

" We have dedicated 100 MB fiber between them and it still runs just fine. In a 
few weeks we will have gig fiber between it all and life will be really good."

If you don't mind me asking, how much does that 100MB cost you?  Every time 
I've looked into getting service with that kind of bandwidth it's so expensive 
it's not even a remote possibility, and I'm wondering if I'm missing something.

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini 
server arrived today...)

We just went through that process. Our individual building servers were up for 
replacement so the question was do we replace them with more low end boxes or 
do we buy better boxes and house them at one location. We pulled everything 
back to the admin building. Let me give you one example of how awesome it is 
now.

We have one clustered NAS for home folders for the teachers and the students. 
With a little work on groups, access based enumeration and rearranging shared 
folders all the ELM student home folders are in one root folder. Same for Jr 
High and HS. Now when Johnny moves mid-year from one building to another we 
don't have to do a thing. Same thing with the teachers, when the annual summer 
migration from building to building occurs we fix up their distribution list 
membership and that is it, we are done. We don't move folders or accounts 
anymore.

Life is much better, assuming you have the bandwidth between buildings. We have 
dedicated 100 MB fiber between them and it still runs just fine. In a few weeks 
we will have gig fiber between it all and life will be really good.

ymmv


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From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 3:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini 
server arrived today...)

Agreed, but I have the possibility of running lower-end servers at individual 
schools. It was just a thought.

What I need to do is re-evaluate our servers as a whole. Thanks for the info.


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RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...)

[Ralph Smith]

" We have dedicated 100 MB fiber between them and it still runs just fine. In a 
few weeks we will have gig fiber between it all and life will be really good."

If you don't mind me asking, how much does that 100MB cost you?  Every time 
I've looked into getting service with that kind of bandwidth it's so expensive 
it's not even a remote possibility, and I'm wondering if I'm missing something.

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini 
server arrived today...)

We just went through that process. Our individual building servers were up for 
replacement so the question was do we replace them with more low end boxes or 
do we buy better boxes and house them at one location. We pulled everything 
back to the admin building. Let me give you one example of how awesome it is 
now.

We have one clustered NAS for home folders for the teachers and the students. 
With a little work on groups, access based enumeration and rearranging shared 
folders all the ELM student home folders are in one root folder. Same for Jr 
High and HS. Now when Johnny moves mid-year from one building to another we 
don't have to do a thing. Same thing with the teachers, when the annual summer 
migration from building to building occurs we fix up their distribution list 
membership and that is it, we are done. We don't move folders or accounts 
anymore.

Life is much better, assuming you have the bandwidth between buildings. We have 
dedicated 100 MB fiber between them and it still runs just fine. In a few weeks 
we will have gig fiber between it all and life will be really good.

ymmv


-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 3:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So, my Mac Mini 
server arrived today...)

Agreed, but I have the possibility of running lower-end servers at individual 
schools. It was just a thought.

What I need to do is re-evaluate our servers as a whole. Thanks for the info.


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RE: Staff training

[Ralph Smith]

Good to know, thanks.

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Staff training

 

I like the Train Signal discs.

James

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Ralph Smith 
wrote:

 

Thanks, i'll check those two resources as well.

 

I appreciate all the comments.  

 

 



 

Another option is to check the local community colleges. Some of them
have IT Tracks and much better pricing.

 



 

I use Global Knowledge and they are great.  If you do a boot camp, they
even give you free vouchers to take the tests.  Sometimes they have a
buy 2 get 1 free deal.  I believe they also have deals that allow
managers to purchase a few vouchers and have the staff take the classes
whenever they like.  They also do onsite training as well.

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Staff training

 

Another option is to check the local community colleges. Some of them
have IT Tracks and much better pricing.

 

 

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Ralph Smith
 wrote:


This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3
staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for
Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration.
If I target the courses related to "MCITP Enterprise Desktop
Administrator on Windows 7" certification and the "MCITP Server
Administrator on Windows Server 2008" certification, (and this is from
ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be
about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses
and one three day course.

The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for
three staff.  I don't think I can get that through our budget process.

For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of
classroom training the way to go?  Are there other alternatives for
classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video
training from places like Trainsignal?

I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions.  We
haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no
experience in this area.  For myself I have relied on Google Training
and some good books, but I was looking for something more
formal/structured.

Appreciate any comments and advice.

Ralph

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RE: Staff training

[Ralph Smith]

 
Thanks, i'll check those two resources as well.
 
I appreciate all the comments.  
 
 


 

Another option is to check the local community colleges. Some of them
have IT Tracks and much better pricing.





I use Global Knowledge and they are great.  If you do a boot camp, they
even give you free vouchers to take the tests.  Sometimes they have a
buy 2 get 1 free deal.  I believe they also have deals that allow
managers to purchase a few vouchers and have the staff take the classes
whenever they like.  They also do onsite training as well.

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Staff training

 

Another option is to check the local community colleges. Some of them
have IT Tracks and much better pricing.

 

 

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Ralph Smith
 wrote:


This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3
staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for
Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration.
If I target the courses related to "MCITP Enterprise Desktop
Administrator on Windows 7" certification and the "MCITP Server
Administrator on Windows Server 2008" certification, (and this is from
ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be
about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses
and one three day course.

The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for
three staff.  I don't think I can get that through our budget process.

For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of
classroom training the way to go?  Are there other alternatives for
classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video
training from places like Trainsignal?

I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions.  We
haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no
experience in this area.  For myself I have relied on Google Training
and some good books, but I was looking for something more
formal/structured.

Appreciate any comments and advice.

Ralph

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RE: Staff training

[Ralph Smith]

Good idea.  Most of our software comes either through Techsoup, which if
you are unfamiliar with it is a kind of middleman for Microsoft software
donations, or occasionally purchasing through MS Open Charity Licensing.
Looking on the MS Volume License Service Center I don't have any
vouchers, but I do have some access to MS e-learning through our Technet
subscription.

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Staff training

What kind of licensing agreement do you have with Microsoft?  Sometimes
you can get training credits with your agreements that will cover the
cost of most of the classes (which I think were more around $3000-3500
range each). 

-Original Message-
From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Staff training


This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3
staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for
Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration.
If I target the courses related to "MCITP Enterprise Desktop
Administrator on Windows 7" certification and the "MCITP Server
Administrator on Windows Server 2008" certification, (and this is from
ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be
about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses
and one three day course.

The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for
three staff.  I don't think I can get that through our budget process.  

For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of
classroom training the way to go?  Are there other alternatives for
classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video
training from places like Trainsignal?

I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions.  We
haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no
experience in this area.  For myself I have relied on Google Training
and some good books, but I was looking for something more
formal/structured.

Appreciate any comments and advice.

Ralph

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RE: Staff training

[Ralph Smith]

Hmm, like somebody from a local college?  Where would you find someone
to do onsite training?  I'll have to investigate. 

-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Staff training

I agree with Dave on this one, I think that 27K for 3 people is a little
steep. If you could provide the resources on-site and have someone come
train you at your site, possibly you get the training for less and get a
lot more out of it, because you can apply it directly to how your
network works and what your folks need. 

EZ

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
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-Original Message-
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Staff training

" Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and
rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen
times."

Sounds like our production environment!

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Staff training

The value of classroom training is completely dependent on the
instructor. An instructor who knows what the heck s/he is talking about
and has real experience in the product is invaluable. An instructor who
reviewed the MOC and ran through it the weekend before the class started
and has little-to-no real experience is worthless.

As an instructor myself, I've sat through both kinds of training
classes.

I would say that the number you quote is just a little on the high side,
but it's in line with a quality training class.

Some people learn better in a classroom environment. Others learn better
with books. Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing
and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several
dozen times.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

-Original Message-
From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Staff training


This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3
staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for
Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration.
If I target the courses related to "MCITP Enterprise Desktop
Administrator on Windows 7" certification and the "MCITP Server
Administrator on Windows Server 2008" certification, (and this is from
ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be
about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses
and one three day course.

The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for
three staff.  I don't think I can get that through our budget process.  

For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of
classroom training the way to go?  Are there other alternatives for
classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video
training from places like Trainsignal?

I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions.  We
haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no
experience in this area.  For myself I have relied on Google Training
and some good books, but I was looking for something more
formal/structured.

Appreciate any comments and advice.

Ralph

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RE: Staff training

[Ralph Smith]

There's no need or mandate to have staff with certifications. My thought
was that I would like to bring the skill level here up a notch or two,
and working towards certification would provide a goal, give the staff
something tangible as a result of their effort, and help them
career-wise.

 

I'd like to get them each to take at least one training with a live
instructor if I can.  I think there is benefit to that experience .

 

As Sherry suggests, sending one person to each class and having them
come back and train the others could work.  

I'll definitely set up a lab environment for them here (actually they
can do it themselves) and use the video training to supplement or
replace the classroom training, as well as using self guided tutorials,
etc.

 

I was just wondering what was common elsewhere for staff development.

 

Anyone have experience with Trainsignal or other similar products?

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Staff training

 

I agree with most of what Michael already outlined. I'd also like to
point out that there are employee's who see that type of formal training
as a vacation from work. and really get nothing out of it. You should
also evaluate and try to quantify what you or your company is trying to
get out of this. For example, is the need to have a certain number of in
house employees with MCITP certification? If that is the business
driver, then at least you know what the requirements are. If not, then
trying a combination of multiple forms of training might make more
sense. You could license one of the video series, and have the employees
work from home for a week to complete the course, for a fraction of that
$27000 figure. You could also consider the Boot Camps, which virtually
guarantee certification, but at a much higher cost. 


Chris Bodnar, MCSE, MCITP
Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003 



From:"Ralph Smith"  
To:"NT System Admin Issues"
 
Date:10/12/2011 12:17 PM 
Subject:Staff training 







This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3
staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for
Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration.
If I target the courses related to "MCITP Enterprise Desktop
Administrator on Windows 7" certification and the "MCITP Server
Administrator on Windows Server 2008" certification, (and this is from
ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be
about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses
and one three day course.

The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for
three staff.  I don't think I can get that through our budget process.  

For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of
classroom training the way to go?  Are there other alternatives for
classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video
training from places like Trainsignal?

I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions.  We
haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no
experience in this area.  For myself I have relied on Google Training
and some good books, but I was looking for something more
formal/structured.

Appreciate any comments and advice.

Ralph

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RE: Staff training

[Ralph Smith]

I'll check into that - thanks for the suggestion.  

-Original Message-
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Staff training

When I was working at a non-profit when someone was sent to training
they were required to come back and cross-train their co-workers.  You
might consider something like sending each of them to a different class
and then having them cross-train one another.  Just a way to stretch
your training budget.

Also, since I work at New Horizons in Dallas, have you talked to your
account executive at NH?  Specifically ask them about OLL training
(Online Live), it is instructor led training that is in a virtual
classroom, interactive with the instructor, setup like traditional ILT
classes but can be done from anywhere.  We highly recommend dual
monitors for OLL, but otherwise it can be done from their home or in
your office if you have a suitable place.

-Original Message-
From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Staff training


This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3
staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for
Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration.
If I target the courses related to "MCITP Enterprise Desktop
Administrator on Windows 7" certification and the "MCITP Server
Administrator on Windows Server 2008" certification, (and this is from
ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be
about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses
and one three day course.

The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for
three staff.  I don't think I can get that through our budget process.

For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of
classroom training the way to go?  Are there other alternatives for
classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video
training from places like Trainsignal?

I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions.  We
haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no
experience in this area.  For myself I have relied on Google Training
and some good books, but I was looking for something more
formal/structured.

Appreciate any comments and advice.

Ralph

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Staff training

[Ralph Smith]

This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3
staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for
Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration.
If I target the courses related to "MCITP Enterprise Desktop
Administrator on Windows 7" certification and the "MCITP Server
Administrator on Windows Server 2008" certification, (and this is from
ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be
about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses
and one three day course.

The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for
three staff.  I don't think I can get that through our budget process.  

For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of
classroom training the way to go?  Are there other alternatives for
classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video
training from places like Trainsignal?

I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions.  We
haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no
experience in this area.  For myself I have relied on Google Training
and some good books, but I was looking for something more
formal/structured.

Appreciate any comments and advice.

Ralph

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RE: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

[Ralph Smith]

As stated already my first choice is always to do a fresh install, but
just as a note I have done a few in place upgrades with no problems.

I had one Windows NT server that had an old accounting app on it that
was still required.  Installed before I got here, no installation disks
and the company is out of business.  I P2Vd that machine as a VMware VM,
then did an in-place upgrade to Win 2003, then converted it to a Hyper-V
VM and it is still running great.

 

I also did a couple of in place upgrades of domain controllers when I
had zero budget for new hardware, going from Win 2003 to Win 2008 32 bit
and both in- place upgrades went smoothly.

 

So while not my preferred choice, it can be done.  Just make sure you
have a backup of the machine before the upgrade just in case. 

 

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Upgrading Windows in-place - your experiences?

 

I haven't upgraded a Windows Server install for years now as typically
with physical boxes the box gets replaced after a three year period so
the OS is rebuilt/refreshed. 

 

Virtualisation has changed that somewhat as we now have VM's with a
potentially infinite "physical" life, and as a result I have quite a few
that are still running Windows 2003.

 

I may rebuild them all with 2008 R2 which also solves the fact that
right now they're 32bit, but what are peoples experiences of upgrading
Windows in-place?

 

As I said I've not had to do so for years now so I'm out of touch with
how good/bad of an experience it is these days? The one potentially nice
thing is that other than any third-party apps, the VM's are about as
clean as you can get, no HP PSP or suchlike to have to deal with.

 

I should add we're talking small role-specific VM's here, nothing crazy
like Exchange.

 

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RE: Remote Desktop App recommendation?

[Ralph Smith]

Thanks all.  I purchased the Wyse app - it was easy to set up and works
great  with my 2003 and 2008 servers. I don't actually have a Remote
Desktop Gateway set up yet so i didn't test that.  There is a place in
the client to set it up, but Wyse calls that feature "experimental".  It
also includes a VNC client, which could be useful.
 


From: James Hill [mailto:james.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Desktop App recommendation?



http://itap-mobile.com/itap-rdp 

 

Supports RD Gateway.  I haven't used it for a while(7 months +) but
hopefully the performance has improved.  It was very slow on an iphone
and slow on an ipad at the time.  Particularly when compared to
comparable products for Android.

 

Always found it amusing that you can get apps for Android, ios etc that
support RD Gateway but nothing exists for OSX.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, 22 September 2011 11:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote Desktop App recommendation?

 

It seems like I saw this asked and answered here before but I can't find
the thread:

Anybody using a Remote Desktop app for iPad 2 that you can recommend
that works with Windows Server 2003, 2008 R2 and Remote Desktop Gateway?

 

My CEO was just issued an iPad through another agency for which she
serves on the board, and she wants to use it this way.  This is the
first time I've actually touched an iPad.  I downloaded the free Remote
Desktop Lite, but apparently Mochasofts's remote desktop products can't
be used with Windows Servers.  Read a bunch of reviews and am
considering trying either Antecea Easy Connect or Wyse PocketCloud, but
there's a lot of choices and am hoping to get a trusted recommendation
from the list.

 

Thanks,

 

Ralph

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RE: Remote Desktop App recommendation?

[Ralph Smith]

I used the Mochasoft app to remote to my Win 7 PC as a test and found it to be 
usable screen size wise, but my eyes ain’t what they used to be so I don’t 
think I’d be able to work like that consistently for any length of time. 

Thanks for the recommendation and tip for Wyse.

 

From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote Desktop App recommendation?

 

I am using Wyse Pocket cloud. Very solid product. But don't get confused. Wyse 
gives you the option to load a software agent on your computer, laptop/desktop, 
You don't have to install it. I use it on my Dell Streak 7 and am able to do 
all that you specified, though a bigger screen would definitely help.

Daniel

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Ralph Smith  wrote:

It seems like I saw this asked and answered here before but I can’t find the 
thread:

Anybody using a Remote Desktop app for iPad 2 that you can recommend that works 
with Windows Server 2003, 2008 R2 and Remote Desktop Gateway?

 

My CEO was just issued an iPad through another agency for which she serves on 
the board, and she wants to use it this way.  This is the first time I’ve 
actually touched an iPad.  I downloaded the free Remote Desktop Lite, but 
apparently Mochasofts’s remote desktop products can’t be used with Windows 
Servers.  Read a bunch of reviews and am considering trying either Antecea Easy 
Connect or Wyse PocketCloud, but there’s a lot of choices and am hoping to get 
a trusted recommendation from the list.

 

Thanks,

 

Ralph

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Remote Desktop App recommendation?

[Ralph Smith]

It seems like I saw this asked and answered here before but I can't find
the thread:

Anybody using a Remote Desktop app for iPad 2 that you can recommend
that works with Windows Server 2003, 2008 R2 and Remote Desktop Gateway?

 

My CEO was just issued an iPad through another agency for which she
serves on the board, and she wants to use it this way.  This is the
first time I've actually touched an iPad.  I downloaded the free Remote
Desktop Lite, but apparently Mochasofts's remote desktop products can't
be used with Windows Servers.  Read a bunch of reviews and am
considering trying either Antecea Easy Connect or Wyse PocketCloud, but
there's a lot of choices and am hoping to get a trusted recommendation
from the list.

 

Thanks,

 

Ralph


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RE: Looking for cable

[Ralph Smith]

For work the Belkin we had was a piece of cr@p, the Avocent we have now works 
great.
For home use I have purchased a few iogear 2 to 4 port KVMs and not had any 
problems with them.

-Original Message-
From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for cable

I like anything other than Belkin for KVM. I was converted to Cybex, now 
Avocent, by ASB ~10 years ago.

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for cable

Yeah... After the suggestion to chuck the old Belkin KVM, I got to thinking 
"why not." Any particular brand of KVM y'all like? Belkin used to be the name 
to buy for "prosumer" stuff. Are they still the brand to beat?



From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Looking for cable

+1
PS/2  It's a great way to lock up your machine.  That was it's selling point, 
right?
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Mike Sullivan  wrote:
I think you need to replace your aging and possibly flaking PS/2 KVM as well. 

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:24 AM, John Aldrich  
wrote:
I'm looking to replace my aging (and flaky) separate wireless Keyboard and 
wireless mouse at home. It's hooked into a PS/2-only KVM. I would like to get a 
new keyboard and mouse combo, but they all seem to be USB-only these days. Is 
anyone aware of a place where one can purchase a single USB (F) to
dual-PS/2 (M) adapter? I know you can buy them the other way (2 PS/2 F to 1 USB 
M) all day long, but in my searching on the web I have not found any such 
adapter as I am trying to find.

Thanks






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RE: Tell me about your experience with free filtering proxies

[Ralph Smith]

I had Dan's Guardian installed on an IPcop box for one of our programs
that had 'at risk' high school kids using some of our computers.  I
found it to be very effective.  They found it to be quite frustrating.



From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Tell me about your experience with free filtering proxies



I used Dan's Guardian (http://dansguardian.org/) for years to filter
what my kids could get to. It seemed to work well. They were constantly
asking me to whitelist sites for them.

 

Ken Cornetet 812.482.8499

To err is human - to moo, bovine.

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Tell me about your experience with free filtering proxies

 

I've been asked to research the possibilities for setting up a filtering
mechanism for a public resource center. These will be open access
computers, probably 8 - 10, for kids to get on for school work or
whatever. My concern is someone doing or viewing something illegal or
totally inappropriate, it's a CYA measure for the nonprofit I work for.
Any thoughts on specific applications (I was looking at Squid and Foxy)
or a different approach are most welcome.

 

TIA

 

John Cook

Systems Administrator

Partnership for Strong Families

 



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RE: Tell me about your experience with free filtering proxies

[Ralph Smith]

We use the free opendns at our organization.  A couple of weeks ago I
found one of our clients (adult) surfing pr0n sites on one of our
computer lab computers.  Looking through his browsing history, I would
say opendns blocked about 50% of the sites he attempted to open, so I'm
not so sure how effective it actually is. 


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Tell me about your experience with free filtering proxies

It wouldn't be centrally administered but have you looked at something
like Bluecoat's K9?

http://www1.k9webprotection.com/

From: John Cook [john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: 23 August 2011 7:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Tell me about your experience with free filtering proxies

I agree and OpenDNS looks promising (although their sales staff seem to
be overwhelmed, no call back in 3 hours). My point was that we are not
directly governed by CIPA in this case. Of course we're going to do the
right thing, we're just not mandated to do so at this time and the cost
is on us.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4


-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Tell me about your experience with free filtering proxies

You're still providing an internet connection to children.  Check out
OpenDNS, as was suggested, also there are a few school district guys
here on the list.  What are they doing for their internet connections?

>>> John Cook  08/23/11 7:41 AM >>>
No Federal $ involved in this project that I know of, it's a community
thing.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Tell me about your experience with free filtering proxies

Ok, so could you be dealing with parents who would like to sue your
organization to the brink of dissolution?

Are you acting as a caretaker for these children in some sort of after
school program?  While you may not be a school or library, are you
reliant upon federal funding for your operations?  Some of those
agencies promulgate rules that are similar in scope to CIPA.
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:27 AM, John Cook
mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
We're neither a school nor a library so it's questionable that CIPA is
an issue but yes, we're looking to avoid the risk of the situation.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Jonathan Link
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:17 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Tell me about your experience with free filtering proxies

Generally +1
While you may want to fight the constitutionality of CIPA, the costs to
the organization will be devastating long before that fight is finished.

I think you realize that this is not without significant risk, and
therefore some amount of cost is necessary to mitigate that risk.  I'd
be subscribing to a service that manages this, and keeps abreast of the
ever growing list of objectionable sites...



On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Kennedy, Jim
mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org>>
wrote:
Let's fine tune your requirements, just to keep you out of jail and on
the list. You are providing internet access to children so your concern
is to be CIPA compliant. The Child Internet Protection Act. OpenDNS will
take care of that, and it works well. You just need to be sure you sign
up/set up their CIPA filter.   http://www.opendns.com/features/cipa

KNOWINGLY providing a non-CIPA filtered connection to a child is a
felony. There is a teacher in jail in Atlanta right now for that. There
are mistakes in filters, they will get around it. The key is if you know
it is happening you have to react. It is knowing and failing to react
that will get you burned.

JK

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Tell me about your experience with free filtering proxies

I've been asked to research the possibilities for setting up a filtering
mechanism for a public resource center. These will be open access
computers, probably 8 - 10, for kids to get on for school work or
whatever. My concern is someone doing or viewing something illegal or
totally ina

RE: WIndows 95 and Server 2008 R2 DCs

[Ralph Smith]

Could you P2V one of the Win95 machines and install the AD client
extension on it as a test to see if it works? Back when I had Win 95
machines on a 2003 domain I ended up installing it on all the win9x
machines with good success.

 

Alternately, and this is kind of a kludgey (is that a word?), assuming
your forest is at Windows 2003 functional level, could you create a new
Win 2003 Domain Controller in its own domain, create a 2 way trust
between your existing domain and the new domain, and have the two Win 95
computers log into the new domain?

 

From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WIndows 95 and Server 2008 R2 DCs

 

I have some Windows 95 computers authenticating against my domain.
Currently, the domain is running on Server 2003 DCs, but I am in the
process of upgrading to Server 2008 R2 DCs. I have already started to
deploy Server 2008 DCs.

 

I have one location that has a couple of Windows 95 computers, and they
cannot authenticate against a Server 2008 R2 DC - even with what I think
is the appropriate group policy (the same policy allows the Windows 95
machines to authenticate against Server 2003 DCs).

 

OK, I know, Windows 95. But, these are used as controllers in some
multi-million dollar machinery that was purchased long ago from a
company that is now defunct. Replacing this equipment is simply not an
option. Upgrading the OS is not an option. Installing the AD client
extension for Windows 9x *might* be an option, but only as a last
resort. The factory guys who maintain this equipment obviously do not
like to stir the soup, because the apparently only human left on earth
who can support this equipment charges 5 figures to just answer the
phone.

 

Here's what I have in the Default Domain Controller Policy:

Microsoft network client: Digitally sign communications (always)
Disabled

Microsoft network server: Digitally sign communications (always)
Disabled

Microsoft network server: Digitally sign communications (if client
agrees) Enabled

Network security: Do not store LAN Manager hash value on next password
change Disabled

Network security: LAN Manager authentication level Send LM & NTLM - use
NTLMv2 session security if negotiated

Allow cryptography algorithms compatible with Windows NT 4.0 Enabled 

 

Any suggestions?

 

Ken Cornetet 812.482.8499

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RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot

[Ralph Smith]

My wife just gave up her 17 year old Ford Escort with over 250K miles on it.  
She got a new Kia Rio.  I have a 13 year old Escort wagon, my one son who is 
still living at home has a '94 Saturn, and the other one, who finally moved 
out, has a '96 Sentra.  We tend to take care of our cars and keep them a long 
time.

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot

I have a 9 year old Kia Rio Cinco, and an 8 year old Dodge Ram 1500 -
both paid for...

Kurt

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 14:43, Jonathan Link  wrote:
> I have a 5 yo Toyota.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>>
>> I have a three year old Honda...
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:13 PM, John Aldrich
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Jonathan:
>>> As I just typed a few moments ago -- you want a brand new Ferrari, but
>>> you
>>> know you can't afford the payments. Are you really going to go to the
>>> trouble of configuring it just how you want and getting a price quote or
>>> are
>>> you going to settle for your 3-year-old Honda? Me? I'm settling for the
>>> 3-year-old Honda, because at least I can afford that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:42 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot
>>>
>>> Sir, we are all extremely real.
>>> If you prick me, do I not bleed?
>>>
>>> Look, you ask for advice.  You get advice.  You come up with all kinds of
>>> reasons why said advice doesn't work for you.  You are very unflexible
>>> when
>>> it comes to taking advice.  Or you aren't able to understand the advice
>>> offered.  Well, there's always a reason.  With everything.  And 9 times
>>> out
>>> of 10 it's behavioral.  Meaning you could do something a different way.
>>>
>>> Even if they say that there is no budget, you could do a lot of work to
>>> calculate a budget based on certain assumptions.  So, you've got a bunch
>>> of
>>> 10 year old equipment.  How much did you spend reparing it last year.
>>> How
>>> much would new equipment for 1/3, 1/4 or 1/5 of it cost, and make a plan
>>> to
>>> replace stuff.  It may cost more, but you might be suprised.  In any
>>> event,
>>> it's obvious you haven't even made the effort.
>>>
>>> It is the lack of effor tthat is irksom to a great many on this list.
>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:31 PM, John Aldrich
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> The reason I have no idea what a new desktop would cost is that
>>> management
>>> is NOT going to approve ANYTHING right now, so why even bother looking???
>>> Get real!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:38 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot
>>> Well that bit didn't shock anyoneexcept maybe Jonathan who's now
>>> wearing
>>> cowboy boots and looking for a horse to ride.
>>>  - WJR
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:20, John Aldrich
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> That I have no idea what a new, fully-configured 64-bit workstation with
>>> Office, a ton of RAM and all the other assorted pieces of software that
>>> would have to be rebought would cost.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:46 AM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot
>>>
>>> What was supposed to be shocking exactly?
>>>
>>> That you have no idea about hardware costs, or that you think I wouldn't
>>> have a spare $2500?
>>>
>>>  - WJR
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 08:33, John Aldrich
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Actually, I have no idea what a new, fully-loaded 64-bit system will
>>> cost. I
>>> haven't actually priced one. I was just making up a number for shock
>>> value.
>>> :D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:34 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot
>>> Same here.  But we don't shop for Alienware PC's to do our "work."
>>>
>>>  - WJR
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:28, Don Ely  wrote:
>>> $2500?!?!?!?!  Funny, my company didn't pay more than $1000 for my quad
>>> core
>>> with 8GB of RAM
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Stefan Jafs 
>>> wrote:
>>> Yeah, I guess the carpet business is flat on the floor in this economy.
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, John Aldrich
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Gee... you got an extra $2500+ or so for all new hardware and software? I
>>> mean, I'd love to have a nice new 64-bit Windows 7 machine with Office
>>> 2010
>>> and all that stuff...but unfortunately, I don't have that. I've got a
>>> 3-year-old Optiplex running XP Pro 32-bit. And with the way the economy
>>> is
>>> going lately, I don't see me getting an upgraded desktop machine any time
>>> soon.
>>>
>>> From: William Robbins [mailto:

RE: Proxy Server Suggestions - was ISA vs. Forefront Threat Management Gateway on server 2008 R2 64 bit

[Ralph Smith]

Like anything whether the product fits depends on your requirements.  It
did what I needed and did it well for years, but it is just a basic
proxy with some ability to white/black list web sites based on computer
groups, which is what I needed at the time.

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Proxy Server Suggestions - was ISA vs. Forefront Threat
Management Gateway on server 2008 R2 64 bit

 

I tried CCProxy a few years back, but it was an inflexibile, annoying
product, IMO...



Not a whole lot of good Windows-based options here...

ASB

http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker

Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...





On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Ralph Smith
 wrote:

I used a product for several years at two sites called CCproxy.  Not
free but also not expensive.  I don't recall if it had reporting
features, I do remember that it generated a log.  Never had a problem
with it.

 

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:39 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Proxy Server Suggestions - was ISA vs. Forefront Threat
Management Gateway on server 2008 R2 64 bit

 

Just revisiting this topic (briefly)...does anyone have a proxy software
they really like that has reporting capabilities?

I've found "Squid" (free on linux) and TMG/ISA so far but would
appreciate anyone's real world experience with a software based proxy
solution.

 

Thanks

 

 

From: Joseph Heaton 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: ISA vs. Forefront Threat Management Gateway on server 2008
R2 64 bit

No more development on TMG, but they will be supporting it for the next
10 years. (5 normal, 5 extended)

Microsoft is getting out of that area.  

>>> Don Kuhlman  7/25/2011 1:48 PM >>>
Thanks Bill!  I am trying to get a look at our volume licensing
paperwork to see if this is in there so at least I can get it loaded.  I
will pass on the fact that no more TMG for also.

Do you know if they are creating a new proxy server product then?

Much appreciated!

Don

From: "Mayo, Bill" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: ISA vs. Forefront Threat Management Gateway on server 2008
R2 64 bit


ISA Server was never free.  It evolved from the old Proxy Server which
also was not free.  There is no free proxy server from Microsoft of
which I am aware.  You should also be aware that Microsoft is no longer
developing new versions of TMG.

From:Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ISA vs. Forefront Threat Management Gateway on server 2008 R2
64 bit

Hi folks. I'm trying to investigate something here. I've been instructed
to install a Proxy server on Windows 2008 R2 (64 bit)

Everything I'm seeing says you can't use ISA 2006 on 2008 64 bit server.
It seems as though Forefront TMG 2010 is the microsoft product for
creating a proxy server.

Howerver, it also seems like it costs to do this.  So my questions are

1) Was ISA free for a proxy server?
2) Is TMG the only Microsoft product you can use to build a proxy server
on 2008 R2 ?

Thanks

Don K

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RE: Proxy Server Suggestions - was ISA vs. Forefront Threat Management Gateway on server 2008 R2 64 bit

[Ralph Smith]

I used a product for several years at two sites called CCproxy.  Not
free but also not expensive.  I don't recall if it had reporting
features, I do remember that it generated a log.  Never had a problem
with it.

 

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Proxy Server Suggestions - was ISA vs. Forefront Threat
Management Gateway on server 2008 R2 64 bit

 

Just revisiting this topic (briefly)...does anyone have a proxy software
they really like that has reporting capabilities?

I've found "Squid" (free on linux) and TMG/ISA so far but would
appreciate anyone's real world experience with a software based proxy
solution.

 

Thanks

 

 

From: Joseph Heaton 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: ISA vs. Forefront Threat Management Gateway on server 2008
R2 64 bit

No more development on TMG, but they will be supporting it for the next
10 years. (5 normal, 5 extended)

Microsoft is getting out of that area.  

>>> Don Kuhlman  7/25/2011 1:48 PM >>>
Thanks Bill!  I am trying to get a look at our volume licensing
paperwork to see if this is in there so at least I can get it loaded.  I
will pass on the fact that no more TMG for also.

Do you know if they are creating a new proxy server product then?

Much appreciated!

Don

From: "Mayo, Bill" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: ISA vs. Forefront Threat Management Gateway on server 2008
R2 64 bit


ISA Server was never free.  It evolved from the old Proxy Server which
also was not free.  There is no free proxy server from Microsoft of
which I am aware.  You should also be aware that Microsoft is no longer
developing new versions of TMG.

From:Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ISA vs. Forefront Threat Management Gateway on server 2008 R2
64 bit

Hi folks. I'm trying to investigate something here. I've been instructed
to install a Proxy server on Windows 2008 R2 (64 bit)

Everything I'm seeing says you can't use ISA 2006 on 2008 64 bit server.
It seems as though Forefront TMG 2010 is the microsoft product for
creating a proxy server.

Howerver, it also seems like it costs to do this.  So my questions are

1) Was ISA free for a proxy server?
2) Is TMG the only Microsoft product you can use to build a proxy server
on 2008 R2 ?

Thanks

Don K
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RE: OT: Off-Brand / Reman Toner

[Ralph Smith]

Not saying it doesn't happen, but I find that with OEM it's unusual,
whereas with remanufactured in my experience it's somewhere between 1
out of 5 to 1 out of 10 are problematic in one way or another.

I tried one Rhinotek cartridge as a trial once, but it sounded like a
hamster running on a squeaky wheel, so it lasted about a minute and went
right back to them. Maybe that wasn't representative of their overall
quality but it was near the end of my 'save money on toner' quest and I
was just fed up with the whole idea by then.

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Off-Brand / Reman Toner

We had a case where we got a bad OEM toner that reported "empty" but
still
felt VERY full. Fortunately it was a copier that was under maintenance
so
they replaced it, but it *does* happen, even with OEM cartridges.




-Original Message-
From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Off-Brand / Reman Toner

We have about 75 small to medium size laser printers.  For a few years
we tried to save money with remanufactured or third party toners,
running the gamut from some done by a local business person in their
garage, to some from those companies that do the phone marketing, to
ones available from Staples, Office Depot, and WB Mason, and even some
manufactured by I think it was Toshiba or Xerox or some well known
company.

Like others have said, the expense wasn't worth the cost savings, so we
went back to OEM.

I have to say that in the last 5 or so years, dealing with OEM
cartridges for 75 printers, I don't believe I've EVER had a bad one.
Plus the quality of the prints was noticeably better.

Recently we decided to enter into a maintenance agreement for all of our
printers where we pay by the page and they supply all toner, parts and
labor.  The down side is they supply remanufactured toners, but so far
we haven't had many issues, and at least when we get a bad one they just
send over another one, and if it leaks all over the printer, they come
in and clean up the mess.  We'll see how it goes.



-Original Message-
From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Off-Brand / Reman Toner

I have not had the Mechanical issues, I agree with Leaking Toner,
however we do get that with new cartridges just not as much.  We have
had several that report Empty with almost no pages printed, so we have
to return to company for credit.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Off-Brand / Reman Toner

My experience with reman'd cartridges:

1)  You will save some money, and
2)  You will have more problems.

If you're working with a good company the savings can offset the issues
relating to leaking toner and mechanical issues.  For us, the savings
was substantial but the users and execs determined is wasn't worth the
hassles and we returned to OEM toner.



Roger Wright
___


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On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:27 AM, John Hornbuckle
 wrote:


We're an HP shop when it comes to printers, and we've always
used HP brand toner.



A few companies have been hitting us up lately trying to sell us
off-brand and/or remanufactured toner. We've never bought these in the
past, but maybe my fears are unfounded. Maybe they work just as well as
HP toner, but for a lot less money.



Anyone have any experience with them? Thoughts?









John Hornbuckle

MIS Department

Taylor County School District

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RE: OT: Off-Brand / Reman Toner

[Ralph Smith]

We have about 75 small to medium size laser printers.  For a few years
we tried to save money with remanufactured or third party toners,
running the gamut from some done by a local business person in their
garage, to some from those companies that do the phone marketing, to
ones available from Staples, Office Depot, and WB Mason, and even some
manufactured by I think it was Toshiba or Xerox or some well known
company.

Like others have said, the expense wasn't worth the cost savings, so we
went back to OEM.

I have to say that in the last 5 or so years, dealing with OEM
cartridges for 75 printers, I don't believe I've EVER had a bad one.
Plus the quality of the prints was noticeably better.

Recently we decided to enter into a maintenance agreement for all of our
printers where we pay by the page and they supply all toner, parts and
labor.  The down side is they supply remanufactured toners, but so far
we haven't had many issues, and at least when we get a bad one they just
send over another one, and if it leaks all over the printer, they come
in and clean up the mess.  We'll see how it goes.



-Original Message-
From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Off-Brand / Reman Toner

I have not had the Mechanical issues, I agree with Leaking Toner,
however we do get that with new cartridges just not as much.  We have
had several that report Empty with almost no pages printed, so we have
to return to company for credit.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Off-Brand / Reman Toner

My experience with reman'd cartridges:

1)  You will save some money, and
2)  You will have more problems.

If you're working with a good company the savings can offset the issues
relating to leaking toner and mechanical issues.  For us, the savings
was substantial but the users and execs determined is wasn't worth the
hassles and we returned to OEM toner.



Roger Wright
___


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On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:27 AM, John Hornbuckle
 wrote:


We're an HP shop when it comes to printers, and we've always
used HP brand toner.



A few companies have been hitting us up lately trying to sell us
off-brand and/or remanufactured toner. We've never bought these in the
past, but maybe my fears are unfounded. Maybe they work just as well as
HP toner, but for a lot less money.



Anyone have any experience with them? Thoughts?









John Hornbuckle

MIS Department

Taylor County School District

www.taylor.k12.fl.us





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RE: Clean & Pristine or Swing Migrations?

[Ralph Smith]

Same here transitioned from Netware 4.11 to  NT4 and then to 2000, 2003
and 2008.  Never had a problem.

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 3:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Clean & Pristine or Swing Migrations?

 

Mine was NT4 to 2000 to 2003 to 2008 and now 2008R2...and then Windows
Server 8, soon to come.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Jacob  wrote:

+1... I have never done a clean install of AD.. always been a migration
(from 2000 to 2003 to now 2008). I do not want to go through that
headache.

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 8:33 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Clean & Pristine or Swing Migrations?

 

What was the problem you had with DNS?



If the domain was well maintained, and there are no other reasons for
building a new domain, I would be much more inclined to bring up new
2008 servers in the existing domain, and then decommission the older DC
infrastructure.



ASB

http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker

Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...

 

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:40 AM, 
wrote:

Hello all 

I am currently working on the migration project of our Windows Server
2003 domain to a Windows R2 2008 domain. Our single domain is small with
about 160 user acounts. 
I've tried doing a swing migration but somehow could not get the DNS
server to work on the R2 server. I am currently looking at the C&P
migration option. With the C&P migration I know that users would have to
re-create their passwords again, but this isn't an issue for me. What
concerns me is whether user and machine accounts will get migrated
across correctly. Also would I have to re-join the users' workstations
to the new domain? Would Group Policies and Security Permissions be
migrated across? 
I was thinking of keeping the same domain name and server name
(including IP address), obviously the original domain server would be
switched off. 
Any comments/advice would be greately appreciated. 

TIA
Pierre 

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RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

[Ralph Smith]

Thank you Michael, that seems to have fixed it for me.  Rebooted the
server 3 times and no errors.

It's great to be able to get a suggestion from someone else when you're
overlooking something.  

 

The help is much appreciated.

 

Ralph Smith

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

I recommend you put dynamic MAC addresses back, leave spoofing turned
off, remove the hyper-v NIC from the device manager in the VM, let the
hyper-v NIC reinstall on reboot of the VM, and then reconfigure the NIC
properly inside the VM.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

Mac spoofing is not checked.  At one time the VM was set for dynamic MAC
addresses, but it is now set to static.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

Is mac spoofing turned on for the VM?

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

I have a Windows 2008 Server with a statically assigned IP address that
seems to have an issue with another  device on my network.

Whenever the server is rebooted, it displays an error that there is a
duplicate IP address on the network, and changes its own address to an
auto-configured 169... address.

The thing is it says it conflicts with the device having the IP address
of 0.0.0.0., and gives the MAC address of the conflicting device.  As
far as I know this means it's a MAC address conflict.  However the
conflicting device does not share the IP address or the MAC address of
the server.

The other device happens to be an Infocus projector that gets it IP
Address through a DHCP reservation.

If I pull the cable on the projector and then reset the NIC on the
server there are no problems.  If I then plug the projector back in the
two machines coexist happily until I have to reboot the server.

Also, if I change the IP address on the server NIC  without
disconnecting the projector, the server is happy with its new address
until the next time it reboots.  At which point I can change it back to
its original IP address and again all is well.

So it detects an IP address conflict, but there is no duplicate IP
address on the network, nor is the MAC address a duplicate.  It only
throws this error when the server boots, otherwise its fine.  The server
is a VM on Hyper-V and is a DC that also does DNS and DHCP.  I've looked
at DNS, WINS, DHCP and don't see anything amiss.

Any suggestions on how to fix this?  Thanks.

 

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RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

[Ralph Smith]

I think maybe I'll take that hammer to my own head - but I'll definitely
use the virtual one.  Michael's suggestion to remove the NIC from the VM
and let  it reinstall appears to have resolved the problem.

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

I was thinking the projector. But redo the mac spoofing as Michael
suggested first.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

The server?  I could beat it with my virtual hammer but it just wouldn't
be as satisfying.

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

Take it out back and beat it with a hammer. Tell the bean counters
someone must have dropped it.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

Unfortunately I can't give the projector a static IP because I have a
classless subnet (255.255.252.0 mask) and the web interface on the
projector will only accept classful subnet masks.  Infocus tech support
was zero help with this.  It will accept a DHCP assigned address with
this mask, at least.  I did try giving it a different IP address through
DHCP but it didn't resolve problem.

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

Have you tried giving the projector a static IP and rebooting the
server?

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Ralph Smith
 wrote:

I have a Windows 2008 Server with a statically assigned IP address that
seems to have an issue with another  device on my network.

Whenever the server is rebooted, it displays an error that there is a
duplicate IP address on the network, and changes its own address to an
auto-configured 169... address.

The thing is it says it conflicts with the device having the IP address
of 0.0.0.0., and gives the MAC address of the conflicting device.  As
far as I know this means it's a MAC address conflict.  However the
conflicting device does not share the IP address or the MAC address of
the server.

The other device happens to be an Infocus projector that gets it IP
Address through a DHCP reservation.

If I pull the cable on the projector and then reset the NIC on the
server there are no problems.  If I then plug the projector back in the
two machines coexist happily until I have to reboot the server.

Also, if I change the IP address on the server NIC  without
disconnecting the projector, the server is happy with its new address
until the next time it reboots.  At which point I can change it back to
its original IP address and again all is well.

So it detects an IP address conflict, but there is no duplicate IP
address on the network, nor is the MAC address a duplicate.  It only
throws this error when the server boots, otherwise its fine.  The server
is a VM on Hyper-V and is a DC that also does DNS and DHCP.  I've looked
at DNS, WINS, DHCP and don't see anything amiss.

Any suggestions on how to fix this?  Thanks.

 

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RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

[Ralph Smith]

The server?  I could beat it with my virtual hammer but it just wouldn't
be as satisfying.

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

Take it out back and beat it with a hammer. Tell the bean counters
someone must have dropped it.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

Unfortunately I can't give the projector a static IP because I have a
classless subnet (255.255.252.0 mask) and the web interface on the
projector will only accept classful subnet masks.  Infocus tech support
was zero help with this.  It will accept a DHCP assigned address with
this mask, at least.  I did try giving it a different IP address through
DHCP but it didn't resolve problem.

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

Have you tried giving the projector a static IP and rebooting the
server?

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Ralph Smith
 wrote:

I have a Windows 2008 Server with a statically assigned IP address that
seems to have an issue with another  device on my network.

Whenever the server is rebooted, it displays an error that there is a
duplicate IP address on the network, and changes its own address to an
auto-configured 169... address.

The thing is it says it conflicts with the device having the IP address
of 0.0.0.0., and gives the MAC address of the conflicting device.  As
far as I know this means it's a MAC address conflict.  However the
conflicting device does not share the IP address or the MAC address of
the server.

The other device happens to be an Infocus projector that gets it IP
Address through a DHCP reservation.

If I pull the cable on the projector and then reset the NIC on the
server there are no problems.  If I then plug the projector back in the
two machines coexist happily until I have to reboot the server.

Also, if I change the IP address on the server NIC  without
disconnecting the projector, the server is happy with its new address
until the next time it reboots.  At which point I can change it back to
its original IP address and again all is well.

So it detects an IP address conflict, but there is no duplicate IP
address on the network, nor is the MAC address a duplicate.  It only
throws this error when the server boots, otherwise its fine.  The server
is a VM on Hyper-V and is a DC that also does DNS and DHCP.  I've looked
at DNS, WINS, DHCP and don't see anything amiss.

Any suggestions on how to fix this?  Thanks.

 

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RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

[Ralph Smith]

Mac spoofing is not checked.  At one time the VM was set for dynamic MAC
addresses, but it is now set to static.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

Is mac spoofing turned on for the VM?

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

I have a Windows 2008 Server with a statically assigned IP address that
seems to have an issue with another  device on my network.

Whenever the server is rebooted, it displays an error that there is a
duplicate IP address on the network, and changes its own address to an
auto-configured 169... address.

The thing is it says it conflicts with the device having the IP address
of 0.0.0.0., and gives the MAC address of the conflicting device.  As
far as I know this means it's a MAC address conflict.  However the
conflicting device does not share the IP address or the MAC address of
the server.

The other device happens to be an Infocus projector that gets it IP
Address through a DHCP reservation.

If I pull the cable on the projector and then reset the NIC on the
server there are no problems.  If I then plug the projector back in the
two machines coexist happily until I have to reboot the server.

Also, if I change the IP address on the server NIC  without
disconnecting the projector, the server is happy with its new address
until the next time it reboots.  At which point I can change it back to
its original IP address and again all is well.

So it detects an IP address conflict, but there is no duplicate IP
address on the network, nor is the MAC address a duplicate.  It only
throws this error when the server boots, otherwise its fine.  The server
is a VM on Hyper-V and is a DC that also does DNS and DHCP.  I've looked
at DNS, WINS, DHCP and don't see anything amiss.

Any suggestions on how to fix this?  Thanks.

 

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RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

[Ralph Smith]

The server has a standard hyper-v NIC, the host NIC to which it is
attached is an Intel Pro/1000, and going by the MAC address on the
projector it is a D-Link.  There are Broadcom NICs on the host machine,
but I wouldn't think they would be a factor somehow, would they?

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 


Are Broadcom NICs involved anywhere? 
-- 
richard 

"Ralph Smith"  wrote on 07/19/2011 11:56:28
AM:

> I have a Windows 2008 Server with a statically assigned IP address 
> that seems to have an issue with another  device on my network. 
> Whenever the server is rebooted, it displays an error that there is 
> a duplicate IP address on the network, and changes its own address 
> to an auto-configured 169... address. 
> The thing is it says it conflicts with the device having the IP 
> address of 0.0.0.0., and gives the MAC address of the conflicting 
> device.  As far as I know this means it's a MAC address conflict.  
> However the conflicting device does not share the IP address or the 
> MAC address of the server. 
> The other device happens to be an Infocus projector that gets it IP 
> Address through a DHCP reservation. 
> If I pull the cable on the projector and then reset the NIC on the 
> server there are no problems.  If I then plug the projector back in 
> the two machines coexist happily until I have to reboot the server. 
> Also, if I change the IP address on the server NIC  without 
> disconnecting the projector, the server is happy with its new 
> address until the next time it reboots.  At which point I can change
> it back to its original IP address and again all is well. 
> So it detects an IP address conflict, but there is no duplicate IP 
> address on the network, nor is the MAC address a duplicate.  It only
> throws this error when the server boots, otherwise its fine.  The 
> server is a VM on Hyper-V and is a DC that also does DNS and DHCP.  
> I've looked at DNS, WINS, DHCP and don't see anything amiss. 
> Any suggestions on how to fix this?  Thanks. 
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RE: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

[Ralph Smith]

Unfortunately I can't give the projector a static IP because I have a
classless subnet (255.255.252.0 mask) and the web interface on the
projector will only accept classful subnet masks.  Infocus tech support
was zero help with this.  It will accept a DHCP assigned address with
this mask, at least.  I did try giving it a different IP address through
DHCP but it didn't resolve problem.

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Weird Duplicate IP address problem

 

Have you tried giving the projector a static IP and rebooting the
server?

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Ralph Smith
 wrote:

I have a Windows 2008 Server with a statically assigned IP address that
seems to have an issue with another  device on my network.

Whenever the server is rebooted, it displays an error that there is a
duplicate IP address on the network, and changes its own address to an
auto-configured 169... address.

The thing is it says it conflicts with the device having the IP address
of 0.0.0.0., and gives the MAC address of the conflicting device.  As
far as I know this means it's a MAC address conflict.  However the
conflicting device does not share the IP address or the MAC address of
the server.

The other device happens to be an Infocus projector that gets it IP
Address through a DHCP reservation.

If I pull the cable on the projector and then reset the NIC on the
server there are no problems.  If I then plug the projector back in the
two machines coexist happily until I have to reboot the server.

Also, if I change the IP address on the server NIC  without
disconnecting the projector, the server is happy with its new address
until the next time it reboots.  At which point I can change it back to
its original IP address and again all is well.

So it detects an IP address conflict, but there is no duplicate IP
address on the network, nor is the MAC address a duplicate.  It only
throws this error when the server boots, otherwise its fine.  The server
is a VM on Hyper-V and is a DC that also does DNS and DHCP.  I've looked
at DNS, WINS, DHCP and don't see anything amiss.

Any suggestions on how to fix this?  Thanks.

 

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Weird Duplicate IP address problem

[Ralph Smith]

I have a Windows 2008 Server with a statically assigned IP address that
seems to have an issue with another  device on my network.

Whenever the server is rebooted, it displays an error that there is a
duplicate IP address on the network, and changes its own address to an
auto-configured 169... address.

The thing is it says it conflicts with the device having the IP address
of 0.0.0.0., and gives the MAC address of the conflicting device.  As
far as I know this means it's a MAC address conflict.  However the
conflicting device does not share the IP address or the MAC address of
the server.

The other device happens to be an Infocus projector that gets it IP
Address through a DHCP reservation.

If I pull the cable on the projector and then reset the NIC on the
server there are no problems.  If I then plug the projector back in the
two machines coexist happily until I have to reboot the server.

Also, if I change the IP address on the server NIC  without
disconnecting the projector, the server is happy with its new address
until the next time it reboots.  At which point I can change it back to
its original IP address and again all is well.

So it detects an IP address conflict, but there is no duplicate IP
address on the network, nor is the MAC address a duplicate.  It only
throws this error when the server boots, otherwise its fine.  The server
is a VM on Hyper-V and is a DC that also does DNS and DHCP.  I've looked
at DNS, WINS, DHCP and don't see anything amiss.

Any suggestions on how to fix this?  Thanks.

 


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RE: PC Mall created a customer account without my knowledge

[Ralph Smith]

I worked with pc mall for about four years during which time I had the
same account rep.  She was very good about working with me,
conferencing in people they had on site from different vendors, such as
Dell and HP when I had a project, question or issue.  I never had
problems with delivery, or returns, and the prices were almost always
the best I could find.

 

Then they switched reps on me ...several times.  Now I don't use them
anymore.

 

 

I know a lot of shops use CDW, but does anyone use or have opinions on
some other places like Zones, Insight or PC Connection?  I don't have
any one go-to place at the moment. 

 

I used to like PC Connection many years ago, but then it seemed like
they could never give me the same pricing I could get from PC Mall or
Dell, and they also switched me to an rep I didn't like.

 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: PC Mall created a customer account without my knowledge

 

LOL

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: PC Mall created a customer account without my knowledge

 

What was that account #.

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: PC Mall created a customer account without my knowledge

 

Unbelievable... 

So now I am wasting 30 minutes going back and forth with this guy
explaining that I never signed up, never asked to be signed up, never
used them (and never will).

I said:

"You setup a corporate purchasing account without authorization, then
sent the login credentials via a plain text email... and you don't see
anything wrong w/ that?"  

"What is to stop a 3rd party from obtaining that information, logging in
as me and buying product under my account???"

 

His reply was that he wanted to make it as easy as possible for me to
buy from them, and that I can log in and change my password as often as
I'd like..

Are you kidding me?!?!

 

 

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: PC Mall created a customer account without my knowledge

 

They are scum, imho. For over 5  years they tried to collect from a
former employer on a product I returned to PC Mall while I was there. We
repeatedly sent them proof of delivery of the return. I told the account
rep that if they called again we would never do business with them
again. I was nice, but dead serious...get your bean counters to stop
calling my bean counters.

 

It didn't stop. Last I heard it continued well beyond me leaving the
company.

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: PC Mall created a customer account without my knowledge

 

Has anyone dealt w/ this company?

I just got an email from PC Mall saying "Welcome to PC Mall" - here is
your username and password to begin saving money"...

WTF?

I never signed up w/ them, never even talked to them... 

Is this normal practice for resellers to just auto-create customer
accounts?

And to then send a plain-text email containing log on credentials???

I replied back demanding to have the account deleted and confirmation of
my request.

/Rant off


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RE: Win7 UAC - is your on or off?

[Ralph Smith]

“I've set up 4 different shared password safe databases, plus individual ones, 
for the IT staff here, but if someone has a database open for writing, the 
others only get RO access, which is sometimes an annoyance.“

 

With Keepass if you attempt to open a password database that someone else 
already has open for editing, you have the option of taking ownership to be 
able to use it in writeable mode.

 

 

 

 

From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 12:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win7 UAC - is your on or off?

 

The good memory I have, though it's not as good as it used to be - I can only 
keep about 20 or so really straight any more. Lots of service accounts at work, 
plus my personal accounts for banking/financial, email, shopping, etc. I took a 
brief look at Password Corral when you first mentioned it a few days ago. Looks 
interesting, but it didn't look like it offered enough beyond password safe to 
make the switch.

What I'd *really* like is an app that would be useful for multiple people at 
work, with multiple levels/domains for those with different privileges, such as 
DBAs, programmers, desktop admins, server admins ande EAs/DAs all getting only 
what they need. 

I've set up 4 different shared password safe databases, plus individual ones, 
for the IT staff here, but if someone has a database open for writing, the 
others only get RO access, which is sometimes an annoyance.

For expiration, we're still on Win2k3 R2, so it's the same for everyone, and 
it's set at 90 days. I occasionally try to sell folks on the idea that changing 
a 20+ character password once a year is far better than changing an 8+ 
character password every three months, but I haven't found folks amenable to 
that yet. I live in hope...

Kurt

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 21:09, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

Good memory + Generous Password Expiration (120 days for normal accounts / 180 
days for admin accounts) + Password Corral


ASB

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On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

I've been thinking that would be a good idea, but don't have my first
two accounts figured out yet. I want to get to that point sooner
rather than later, especially since we'll be migrating to Ex2010
soonish, and I want to use a different account for that, and then set
up an account for administering workstations.

How do you keep your passwords straight? I use password safe, for the most part.

Kurt

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 18:31, Jonathan Link  wrote:
> I'm running three accounts generally, and sometimes a fourth.
> Personal everyday work account, no admin access anywhere.
> Workstation admin account for general admin tasks on my machine and machines
> I'm not concerned about being infected with something.
> Domain admin account for accessing servers, only.
> I also have a honeypot account that I enable to interactively login to a
> live machine, and disable once I'm done, it's in the workstation admin
> group.

>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>>
>> I'm collecting a bunch of command lines for launching my tools from a
>> non-elevated prompt (either Start/Run, or a shell), but some just
>> don't work well, and I keep an elevated command prompt for just that
>> purpose.
>>
>> I'm working at making my personal account a non-admin on my own
>> machine, and everywhere else, and using a specific DA account for the
>> things I need to do those kinds of tasks.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 17:17, Hilderbrand, Doug
>>  wrote:
>> >>> I have a few apps that prompt me every time I run them.
>> >
>> > For the 2 apps that trip UAC every time I run them (for no discernable
>> > reason:
>> > I think it's because of a localmachine registry key),
>> > I:
>> > * created a scheduled task (with no trigger)
>> > * turned on the "Run with highest privileges" option
>> > * created shortcut to C:\Windows\System32\schtasks.exe /run /tn
>> > "Taskname"
>> >
>> > No UAC prompt.
>> >
>> >
>> > Doug Hilderbrand | Systems Analyst, Information Technology | Crane
>> > Aerospace & Electronics
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 8:10 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Re: Win7 UAC - is your on or off?
>> >
>> > I'm an admin on my own machine, but I still have UAC running.  I have a
>> > few apps that prompt me everytime I run them.
>> >
>>  David Lum  06/30/11 7:34 AM >>>
>> > Do any of you turn this off? I had our Service Desk Manager look at me
>> > like I had two heads when I told him I don't turn mine off and I asked
>> > "yours is off?" and he answered "It's me, I know when I am doing
>> > something to my system...".
>> >
>> > I swear I read somewhere there is good reason to keep UAC on and just
>> > throttle down the prompts (with Win7 I've left it at default), but I'll
>> > be da

RE: Unable to browse 1 server from XP machines

[Ralph Smith]

Thanks. Problem solved.

Interestingly, when I went into the TCP/IP properties and changed the
NetBios settings from Default to Enable, when I exited I received a
warning that the IP Address  is already assigned to another adapter
which is hidden because it's not physically present in the computer.  At
this point I told it to leave the IP address as is, but I still could
not browse from XP machines.

 

I've seen this warning before when P2Ving a computer for Hyper-V.  The
server in question is a VM, but it was not P2V'd.  I set device manager
to show non-present devices and then, viewing hidden devices in device
manager, there was in fact an extra NIC.  Uninstalled it and the problem
is resolved, although I'm not sure why the extra NIC was there, or why
its presence interfered only with access from Windows XP computers.

Ralph

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Unable to browse 1 server from XP machines

 

I wonder if you're missing NetBios over TCP/IP or WINS, where the shares
are NOT in a browse list that the XP clients can see .  ( I presume
this is an AD domain and all computers are properly joined to the domain
? )



 

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Ralph Smith 
wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions:

 

Tracert completes fine in one hop.

 

The time is the same on all machines involved.

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Unable to browse 1 server from XP machines

 

Have you checked to see if there is a significant time difference
between the XP client and the server?

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Ralph Smith 
wrote:

I have one 2003 server that suddenly today can't be browsed from any XP
sp3 machines.  Attempting to go to either  \\servername or \\[ip
address] returns a "the network path was not found" message.

Browsing to it from Windows 7, 2003 and 2008 machines works with no
problem.

 

I can ping it from the XP machines, and I can browse the XP machines
from the server.

I can browse successfully to other 2003 servers from the XP machines,
just not this one.

Firewall is off on XP machines and the server.  

 

 

Anyone have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot?  Thanks.

 

 

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RE: Unable to browse 1 server from XP machines

[Ralph Smith]

Thanks for the suggestions:

 

Tracert completes fine in one hop.

 

The time is the same on all machines involved.

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Unable to browse 1 server from XP machines

 

Have you checked to see if there is a significant time difference between the 
XP client and the server?

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Ralph Smith  wrote:

I have one 2003 server that suddenly today can’t be browsed from any XP sp3 
machines.  Attempting to go to either  \\servername or \\[ip address] returns a 
“the network path was not found” message.

Browsing to it from Windows 7, 2003 and 2008 machines works with no problem.

 

I can ping it from the XP machines, and I can browse the XP machines from the 
server.

I can browse successfully to other 2003 servers from the XP machines, just not 
this one.

Firewall is off on XP machines and the server.  

 

 

Anyone have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot?  Thanks.

 

 

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Unable to browse 1 server from XP machines

[Ralph Smith]

I have one 2003 server that suddenly today can't be browsed from any XP
sp3 machines.  Attempting to go to either  \\servername or \\[ip
address] returns a "the network path was not found" message.

Browsing to it from Windows 7, 2003 and 2008 machines works with no
problem.

 

I can ping it from the XP machines, and I can browse the XP machines
from the server.

I can browse successfully to other 2003 servers from the XP machines,
just not this one.

Firewall is off on XP machines and the server.  

 

 

Anyone have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot?  Thanks.

 

 


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RE: Anyone else seeing the Google interface changes?

[Ralph Smith]

Because they add these "features" without giving you a choice, like the
page previews that pop up next to search results and can't be
permanently disabled.  It annoys me so much I've pretty much stopped
using Google search.

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 1:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone else seeing the Google interface changes?

 

That's because they did it so poorly :)

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Webster  wrote:

But they did the nice picture thing a while back and removed it after
the loud chorus of angry users.

 

 

Webster

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 

Subject: Re: Anyone else seeing the Google interface changes?

 

So, GMail changes look ok.  Google layout looks more and more like bing
every day now.  Just missing the nice picture. 

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RE: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

[Ralph Smith]

There aren't any events on the workstations, but it seems we have a
serious issue with replication between two RODC servers we are in the
process of setting up for two branch offices.  Right now the two
machines are all set up and sitting on the network in our main office.
They are in AD in our main office Site and have IP addresses on the main
office subnet.  They have actually been sitting here for weeks while we
wait for some construction to finish at the branch sites.

 

Apparently something happened about a week ago that started triggering
replication errors.  Also it seems that For at least one user, only on
Windows 7, authentication is always against one of the RODCs instead of
one of the writable DCs.  Shutting down the RODCs eliminates the logon
problem the user was having (no computer account for this workstation
trust relationship), but that obviously doesn't solve the problem.

 

 

The writable DCs are both flooded with:

 

Directory Service error Event ID 1168 where the user listed is
Domain\RODC1$ and the computer is the writeable DC with the error.  The
description, helpfully, is "An Active Directory Domain Services error
has occurred."

 

 

I turned on Kerberos logging on one of the Writeable DCs and am seeing
this event every few minutes:

 

Log Name:  System

Source:Microsoft-Windows-Security-Kerberos

Date:  6/27/2011 9:43:49 AM

Event ID:  3

Task Category: None

Level: Error

Keywords:  Classic

User:  N/A

Computer:  writeableDC.domain.int

Description:

A Kerberos Error Message was received:

 on logon session 

 Client Time: 

 Server Time: 13:43:49. 6/27/2011 Z

 Error Code: 0xd KDC_ERR_BADOPTION

 Extended Error: 0xc0bb KLIN(0)

 Client Realm: 

 Client Name: 

 Server Realm: DOMAIN.INT

 Server Name: writeableDC$@DOMAIN.INT

 Target Name: writeableDC$@domain@domain.int

 Error Text: 

 File: 9

 Line: e2d

 Error Data is in record data.

 

 

On the RODCs there are numerous errors showing:

 

Event ID:  1084

Task Category: Replication

Level: Error

Keywords:  Classic

User:  ANONYMOUS LOGON

Computer:  RODC1.domain.int

Description:

Internal event: Active Directory Domain Services could not update the
following object with changes received from the following source
directory service. This is because an error occurred during the
application of the changes to Active Directory Domain Services on the
directory service. 

 

Object:

CN=krbtgt_34223\0ADEL:3a86013f-f788-48e2-91a5-5b1c769446a8,CN=Deleted
Objects,DC=domain,DC=int 

Object GUID:

3a86013f-f788-48e2-91a5-5b1c769446a8

Source directory service:

a15205a0-a8d5-4b28-96a8-a052877d4066._msdcs.domain.int 

 

Synchronization of the directory service with the source directory
service is blocked until this update problem is corrected. 

 

This operation will be tried again at the next scheduled replication. 

 

User Action 

Restart the local computer if this condition appears to be related to
low system resources (for example, low physical or virtual memory). 

 

Additional Data 

Error value:

8633 The replication operation failed because the required attributes of
the local krbtgt object are missing.

 

 

 

I'm searching for information on these errors, but if anyone has a clue
(which I obviously don't) I'd be grateful for any help.

 

Thanks,

 

Ralph

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

 

Account corruptions are very rare.

 

This should be generating event log errors on both the client machine
and on the authenticating domain controller indicating, in more detail,
what the issues are.

 

Have you checked those out?

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

 

-Original Message-

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 

Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:33 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

 

Well, I'm no expert by any stretch of anyone's imagination, but it
sounds to

me like her account has gotten corrupted somehow. Have you checked her
A/D

account?

 

 

 

-Original Message-

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 

Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:22 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

 

I could do that but it's a bit of a hassle between migrating her profile
on

each of the computers she uses as well as her Exchange mailbox and

blackberry account. It might resolve the immediate problem, but I
wouldn't

be any closer to knowing what is wrong.

 

The thing is, I really want to understand the root cause of the issue s

RE: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

[Ralph Smith]

Nope.

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 12:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

Does this user have a roaming/mandatory/hybrid (non-local, rather) profile of 
any sort?

Sent from my POS BlackBerry  wireless device, which may wipe itself at any 
moment

-Original Message-
From: "Ralph Smith" 
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:22:21 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Win 7 login problem with 
trust relationship error

I could do that but it's a bit of a hassle between migrating her profile on 
each of the computers she uses as well as her Exchange mailbox and blackberry 
account. It might resolve the immediate problem, but I wouldn't be any closer 
to knowing what is wrong.

The thing is, I really want to understand the root cause of the issue so that 
if there is something in my environment that is causing the problem it can be 
fixed before we roll out Windows 7 to all of our users and find out this isn't 
an isolated incident.


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

Have you tried deleting the user and recreating her? Since, as you stated,
other people can log on without problems, it would appear to be primarily
the user's A/D account.



From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

I thought of that, but this seems to be affecting a specific user account on
multiple computers, some of which are new and I know don't have duplicate
names.  It doesn't seem reasonable t have to change the name on every win 7
computer in the domain.

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

This sounds familiar.  I had an issue with a PC and it was something like
this.  Turned out it was a duplicate name.  Try changing the name and see
what happens.  We just changed the problem PC from something like 4097 to
4097A and that did it. 

>>> "Ralph Smith"  6/24/2011 9:34 AM >>>
Has anyone seen a problem like this and found an explanation / solution?

Windows 2008 domain and all Windows XP clients except for five Windows 7
machines.
Single forest, single domain - no trusts or child domains.

One machine is a laptop we just upgraded to Win 7, and when we went to
have the user log on to it she got this error:
"The security database on the server does not have a computer account
for this workstation trust relationship."

The odd thing is that the IT staff and one test account can all log in
to the machine with no errors, so it doesn't seem like it's the
computer.  She has no trouble logging on to any windows XP clients or
2003 terminal servers, so it doesn't seem as though her user account is
bad.  

She gets the same error logging on to all of the other four Win 7
machines, so it seems to be a combination of something with her user
account and something about Windows 7.

On the laptop we found that if we take it off the domain, reboot, join
it to the domain, reboot, the user can log on for a limited time and
then the error comes back.

Also, per some advice we got from Google Tech Support, on another
computer we used Adsiedit to change the dnshost attribute from "win7pc"
to "win7pc.domain.com", and added "win7pc.domain.com" to
servicePrincipalName.  This also was a temporary resolution.


We also found that sometimes she can successfully log in if we use the
"usern...@domain.com" format, but sometimes that also results in the
same error.

All the information I have been able to find seems to be related to
issues involving trusts between computers in different domains or errors
when joining a computer to a domain.  But these issues all seem to
affect all users logging in to a computer, and don't seem to apply here.

Any ideas?  I greatly appreciate any insight someone may have.

Thanks,

Ralph
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RE: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

[Ralph Smith]

I could do that but it's a bit of a hassle between migrating her profile on 
each of the computers she uses as well as her Exchange mailbox and blackberry 
account. It might resolve the immediate problem, but I wouldn't be any closer 
to knowing what is wrong.

The thing is, I really want to understand the root cause of the issue so that 
if there is something in my environment that is causing the problem it can be 
fixed before we roll out Windows 7 to all of our users and find out this isn't 
an isolated incident.


-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

Have you tried deleting the user and recreating her? Since, as you stated,
other people can log on without problems, it would appear to be primarily
the user's A/D account.



From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

I thought of that, but this seems to be affecting a specific user account on
multiple computers, some of which are new and I know don't have duplicate
names.  It doesn't seem reasonable t have to change the name on every win 7
computer in the domain.

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

This sounds familiar.  I had an issue with a PC and it was something like
this.  Turned out it was a duplicate name.  Try changing the name and see
what happens.  We just changed the problem PC from something like 4097 to
4097A and that did it. 

>>> "Ralph Smith"  6/24/2011 9:34 AM >>>
Has anyone seen a problem like this and found an explanation / solution?

Windows 2008 domain and all Windows XP clients except for five Windows 7
machines.
Single forest, single domain - no trusts or child domains.

One machine is a laptop we just upgraded to Win 7, and when we went to
have the user log on to it she got this error:
"The security database on the server does not have a computer account
for this workstation trust relationship."

The odd thing is that the IT staff and one test account can all log in
to the machine with no errors, so it doesn't seem like it's the
computer.  She has no trouble logging on to any windows XP clients or
2003 terminal servers, so it doesn't seem as though her user account is
bad.  

She gets the same error logging on to all of the other four Win 7
machines, so it seems to be a combination of something with her user
account and something about Windows 7.

On the laptop we found that if we take it off the domain, reboot, join
it to the domain, reboot, the user can log on for a limited time and
then the error comes back.

Also, per some advice we got from Google Tech Support, on another
computer we used Adsiedit to change the dnshost attribute from "win7pc"
to "win7pc.domain.com", and added "win7pc.domain.com" to
servicePrincipalName.  This also was a temporary resolution.


We also found that sometimes she can successfully log in if we use the
"usern...@domain.com" format, but sometimes that also results in the
same error.

All the information I have been able to find seems to be related to
issues involving trusts between computers in different domains or errors
when joining a computer to a domain.  But these issues all seem to
affect all users logging in to a computer, and don't seem to apply here.

Any ideas?  I greatly appreciate any insight someone may have.

Thanks,

Ralph
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RE: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

[Ralph Smith]

I thought of that, but this seems to be affecting a specific user
account on multiple computers, some of which are new and I know don't
have duplicate names.  It doesn't seem reasonable t have to change the
name on every win 7 computer in the domain.

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

 

This sounds familiar.  I had an issue with a PC and it was something
like this.  Turned out it was a duplicate name.  Try changing the name
and see what happens.  We just changed the problem PC from something
like 4097 to 4097A and that did it. 

>>> "Ralph Smith"  6/24/2011 9:34 AM >>>
Has anyone seen a problem like this and found an explanation / solution?

Windows 2008 domain and all Windows XP clients except for five Windows 7
machines.
Single forest, single domain - no trusts or child domains.

One machine is a laptop we just upgraded to Win 7, and when we went to
have the user log on to it she got this error:
"The security database on the server does not have a computer account
for this workstation trust relationship."

The odd thing is that the IT staff and one test account can all log in
to the machine with no errors, so it doesn't seem like it's the
computer.  She has no trouble logging on to any windows XP clients or
2003 terminal servers, so it doesn't seem as though her user account is
bad.  

She gets the same error logging on to all of the other four Win 7
machines, so it seems to be a combination of something with her user
account and something about Windows 7.

On the laptop we found that if we take it off the domain, reboot, join
it to the domain, reboot, the user can log on for a limited time and
then the error comes back.

Also, per some advice we got from Google Tech Support, on another
computer we used Adsiedit to change the dnshost attribute from "win7pc"
to "win7pc.domain.com", and added "win7pc.domain.com" to
servicePrincipalName.  This also was a temporary resolution.


We also found that sometimes she can successfully log in if we use the
"usern...@domain.com" format, but sometimes that also results in the
same error.

All the information I have been able to find seems to be related to
issues involving trusts between computers in different domains or errors
when joining a computer to a domain.  But these issues all seem to
affect all users logging in to a computer, and don't seem to apply here.

Any ideas?  I greatly appreciate any insight someone may have.

Thanks,

Ralph
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Win 7 login problem with trust relationship error

[Ralph Smith]

Has anyone seen a problem like this and found an explanation / solution?

Windows 2008 domain and all Windows XP clients except for five Windows 7
machines.
Single forest, single domain - no trusts or child domains.

One machine is a laptop we just upgraded to Win 7, and when we went to
have the user log on to it she got this error:
"The security database on the server does not have a computer account
for this workstation trust relationship."

The odd thing is that the IT staff and one test account can all log in
to the machine with no errors, so it doesn't seem like it's the
computer.  She has no trouble logging on to any windows XP clients or
2003 terminal servers, so it doesn't seem as though her user account is
bad.  

She gets the same error logging on to all of the other four Win 7
machines, so it seems to be a combination of something with her user
account and something about Windows 7.

On the laptop we found that if we take it off the domain, reboot, join
it to the domain, reboot, the user can log on for a limited time and
then the error comes back.

Also, per some advice we got from Google Tech Support, on another
computer we used Adsiedit to change the dnshost attribute from "win7pc"
to "win7pc.domain.com", and added "win7pc.domain.com" to
servicePrincipalName.  This also was a temporary resolution.


We also found that sometimes she can successfully log in if we use the
"usern...@domain.com" format, but sometimes that also results in the
same error.

All the information I have been able to find seems to be related to
issues involving trusts between computers in different domains or errors
when joining a computer to a domain.  But these issues all seem to
affect all users logging in to a computer, and don't seem to apply here.

Any ideas?  I greatly appreciate any insight someone may have.

Thanks,

Ralph
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RE: Hiding Outlook 2003 Icon

[Ralph Smith]

That should work. 

 



From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hiding Outlook 2003 Icon

 

 

Change the permission on the icon.

 

 

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://dabcc.com/Webster

 

 

From: Robert Jackson [mailto:r...@walkermartyn.co.uk] 
Subject: Hiding Outlook 2003 Icon

 

I have setup an x64 Windows 2003 Server (Standard Edition) running
Terminal Services and have installed M$ Office 2003. What I now want to
do is stop a group of users on this server from seeing and therefore
being able to run the MS Outlook 2003 icon in the Start Menu.

 

Anyone know of a way? Is there a GPO etc.?

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RE: OT: Dear Dell

[Ralph Smith]

"Writing an email, or picking up the phone, or whatever, is an
opportunity cost. You have better things to do."

 

Absolutely, like writing emails to this list!

 



On Jun 7, 2011 11:57 AM, "Ken Schaefer"  wrote:
> Writing an email, or picking up the phone, or whatever, is an
opportunity cost. You have better things to do.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2011 11:50 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT: Dear Dell
> 
> Well, it wasn't $100, but since I'm already here and doing other
things, I don't see that the "overhead" of having me here counts against
shipping. Now if that's *all* I was doing, then yes, I could see that.
Plus I didn't even pick up the phone on this one. I simply sent my rep
an email asking if there was anything they could do for me on the cost
of the item. The rep said "no, but I can give you free overnight
shipping" so I took it. :D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:23 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT: Dear Dell
> 
> How much do you save in shipping? How much does your time cost (your
loaded cost - what they pay you, plus the rent for your cubicle, plus
your benefits, plus the overhead for HR etc. to manage you)?
> 
> The bigger the org, the less worth it is to spend even a minute on the
phone, to save $100 in shipping.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2011 10:38 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT: Dear Dell
> 
> Well, you do have a point. That being said, sometimes a sale rep can
do things for you that an automated system can't...like waive shipping
costs.
> :D
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:31 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Dear Dell
> 
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Jonathan Link

> wrote:
>> Also, if you fail to do that, please at least quote the order 
>> correctly
> the
>> first time.  Quotes with items missing, quantities wrong on multiple 
>> products "don't look too good."[2]
> 
> FWIW, if you're using Dell, a Premier website account, E-Quotes and
direct purchasing (enter your PO# to buy E-Quote) basically eliminate
the sales rep from the equation. Standard Configurations can mean you
only build your configs once.
> 
> I hold the belief that generally all vendors and contractors are
basically incompetent, so eliminating a human from the process is
usually a win.
> 
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RE: RDP through ISA Array

[Ralph Smith]

Possibly set the rule on the ISA server to listen on both the WAN and
the LAN NICs, and then also set the rule to allow traffic from both
internal and external networks, and then set up split DNS so that from
inside the LAN the URL resolves to the internal IP of the ISA server.

 



From: Jay Dale [mailto:jd...@unetek.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 4:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RDP through ISA Array

 

No, the TS is inside the network behind the firewall.  The existing rule
forwards RDP to that server from outside connections.  The outside
connections work fine.  They're trying to work with the interface in
house and they're being blocked (I guess) from RDP going outbound and
then back inbound again.

 

Someone on EE wrote that ISA just doesn't allow it, period, but I've
worked with other firewalls that don't have an issue with it, so I'm
thinking there has to be some way of doing it.

 

Jay

 

Jay Dale
 Senior Systems Administrator

P:281-574-2414

 

From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 3:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RDP through ISA Array

 

does that rule allow inside to that IP?

--the TS you are trying to reach is outside on the WAN?  ... you'd need
a rule inside to that IP as well...

 




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On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:44, Jay Dale  wrote:

There is currently a rule to allow RDP from the outside to the inside to
a specific IP.  I tried creating a rule that would allow outbound RDP,
but that didn't help.

 

Jay Dale
 Senior Systems Administrator

P:281-574-2414

 

From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:39 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: RDP through ISA Array

 

 

Does it have its own rule to allow this access externally?

 

you said internal cannot RDP to WAN, is this a separate rule? check this
rule to make sure it is still correct.




-
Who'd you rather be, the Beatles or the Rolling Stones?

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 06:52, Jay Dale  wrote:

Hey all,

 

I have a client who is using 2 ISA 2006 servers in an array.  ISA 1 is
for the internal clients with a subnet of 192.168.0.0 and ISA 2 is the
external access with a WAN IP and DMZ.  The WAN IP is bound to the NIC
along with a block of secondary IP's.  They use a web application that,
upon clicking a hyperlink launches a window that in turn launches an RDP
connection to one of the WAN links that then runs a Terminal Server
application on a 2008 Enterprise server.  The problem they're having is
that external users can run the application just fine, but users on the
internal network can't RDP to the WAN address.  They say it used to
work, but either a patch broke it or something has changed and they can
no longer access it.  When they click on the hyperlink, a white window
comes up and then the RDP warning window regarding using the Clipboard
comes up, but then nothing.

 

I've tried RDP'ing directly to the WAN address from inside the network
and it fails.  I try RDP'ing directly to the private IP that it's
supposed to point to and it works fine.  I've looked in the ISA's and
there is a policy that allows RDP listening on that WAN IP to forward to
the right server, so settings-wise it appears to be right, but it
doesn't work.  I haven't worked with ISA in years and I'm not sure where
to go from here - I've tried disabling the RPC filter and such but to no
avail.

 

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 

Thanks,

 

Jay

 

 

Jay Dale

Senior Systems Administrator

Unetek, Inc.

Phone: 281.574.2414

Email:jd...@unetek.com

 

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RE: Docuteam

[Ralph Smith]

Nice effort, I can feel a sense of peace and calm descending over the
entire list  ;-)

 

 



From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Docuteam

 



  What Jonathan said.  With the edit/initials, you're
closer, but there's still a lot of other "stuff" that would need to be
in the Contract, and even then all you're doing is setting the stage for
an action/suit after the fact.  IANAL either - but I write, review and
sign contracts every single working day.

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Jonathan Link 
wrote:

*facepalm*

 

Ok, if they fail to honor the contract, then what?  Are the terms of the
breach indicated within the contract.  Likely they are, and your likely
amount of compensation is quite low in that event.

 

Seriously, take some of the advice offered from this list, even if it
comes with people who are occasionally antagonistic towards you.  We
offer it, and yet you refuse time and time again.



 

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:03 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:

I checked with the sales rep. According to him, It's intended to mean
"on-site" and he said I can add that to the contract, initial it and
he'd
initial it as well to make it part of the contract. IANAL, but it seems
reasonable to believe that if both parties initial it, it has the force
of
the contract.




-Original Message-
From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Docuteam

Maybe you "oughta" consult a lawyer, or a more experienced contracts
person,
before you try any such thing.

-Original Message-
From: "John Aldrich" 
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 16:19:40
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues"

Subject: RE: Docuteam


Hmm... maybe I oughta add a clause *requiring* on-site within 4 hours.
:D




From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 4:14 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Docuteam

+1
They can respond to your piddly requests really fast, and then your
major
outages slowly and still maintain that their average response time is
within
4 hours.
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Sean Martin 
wrote:
Actually, not only does that not indicate "on-site", it also does not
hold
them to a specific response time.

- Sean




On May 2, 2011, at 4:04 PM, "John Aldrich"


wrote:

> "DocuTeam guarantees that DocuTeam certified field service engineers
will
> respond to your emergency service calls, placed to our dispatch
department,
> within an average four hours, exclusing IT Related service calls..."
That
> would seem to indicate "4-hour on-site"
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:45 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Docuteam
>
> I can tell you that I've switched to a "cheaper" copy company, and the
> service went down the toilet.
> More important than getting the cost in writing, is getting the
service
> terms in writing.
> A 4 hour "onsite" vs 4 hour "response" statement is a  BIG difference.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Docuteam
>
> Yeah... honestly I don't know how they can make money, but it seems to
be
> there in black & white... *shrug*
>
>
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:03 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Docuteam
>
> If it's too good to be true...
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 2:58 PM, John Aldrich

> wrote:
> Which is why I was asking if someone in this group had ever used them.
:D
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:44 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Docuteam
>
> Yup, it is all about the service.
> But of course you won't really know that until you switch and try to
> hold them to their agreement.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:40 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Docuteam
>
> Anyone in the Atlanta area have any experience with Docuteam? They're
> offering to buy out our leases on our copiers and printers and save us
> money
> at the same time. Just wondering... it seems too good to be true, but
> the
> money is there in black & white. Anyone have any experience working
with
> Docuteam? Any "gotchas" that I should be aware of that would make us
> want to
> stay with our current copier/printer vendor? I'm thinking more on the
> lines
> of service quality as the discussion here has pretty much been "the
> hardware
> all pretty much just works...you need to worry about service."
>
> So far, our service with our exis

RE: Color issues

[Ralph Smith]

"Your only legitimate comment regarding pricing is when the /reseller/
doesn't post pricing."

 

That's what I'm referring to, and it is quite common because they want
to get you into a conversation with a sales person where they can try to
persuade you that there is a real business case for buying their
product.  Obviously I'm not talking about commodity products that you
can find on Amazon.

 

What's the point?  If I'm looking for a product to meet a specific need
and I have a budget of say two thousand, and I see that a particular
solution is listed at twenty thousand, I don't care what the discount is
it's not going to be an option for me.  I can skip it.

 

When no prices are listed, I either have to contact the sales department
to get more information, or just skip it.  My personal experience is
that whenever I have contacted sales I find it is priced out of my
range, and I often end up getting repeated sales contacts from the
company, even years later.  A waste of my time and theirs.  

 

If I can't find an acceptable solution that I know is at least close to
my budget then I'll go back and contact those companies.

 

 

 

 



From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Color issues

 

LOL.  You have yet to see me "irritated to the extreme" or "aggravated".

You also have a flawed procurement policy.  Read the other posts that
were made.  Your only legitimate comment regarding pricing is when the
/reseller/ doesn't post pricing.  That's just silly.

Even if/when a manufacturer posts prices - for instance, Microsoft -
what's the point?   Who pays retail?

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Ralph Smith 
wrote:

Hey Gary,

Based on your often vitriolic responses to John's posts, he obviously
irritates you to an extreme.  Why don't you just filter out his posts
and save yourself the aggravation?

To quote Stu's often repeated mantra, "Remember: on topic, no noise,
FRIENDLY."


At the risk of earning your contempt myself I generally agree with John
in regards to companies that don't post their prices on their web sites.
That's surely their choice and part of their sales strategy, but for me,
working at a non-profit with a very small budget, I have learned to just
pass them by.

Many times in the past I have inquired with them for pricing
information, and nearly 100% of the time the results have been that they
are well out of the realm of possibility for me. For companies that
don't sell direct, the same applies if pricing is not available on their
reseller's sites either.

This is of course for products that fall into the category of "would be
really nice to have", not mission critical applications or devices.

Ralph Smith




> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:21 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Color issues
>
> Hey, I've joked before that my role of supervising engineers is like
> teaching kindergarten.
>
> Well today, even more so.  It's remedial level IT procurement tuition
day
> :)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Steven M. Caesare" 
> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:09:44
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues"  software.com>Subject: RE: Color issues
>
> The issue is not requiring spoonfeeding.
>
> -sc
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:08 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Color issues
>
> You go to the car dealership and see a car you like. If there were no
> sticker in the window saying how much it cost would you A) Go ask B)
walk
> off the lot? I've always operated under the attitude of "if I have to
ask,
> it's too much." Checking the price, it appears that ColorMunki is more
> expensive. That being said it's made by Pantone, the folks who make
the
> color charts, so that may be something to consider as well.
>
>
>
> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 3:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Color issues
>
> Are you fscking shitting me?
>
> I can't even be bothered to wrap this in a just fscking google it:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=colormunki&tbs=shop%3A1&aq=f
>
> Here, even easier:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-
> keywords
> =colormunki
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, John Aldrich
> 
> wrote:
> Thanks... I looked at ColorMunki, but I didn'

RE: Color issues

[Ralph Smith]

Hey Gary,

Based on your often vitriolic responses to John's posts, he obviously irritates 
you to an extreme.  Why don't you just filter out his posts and save yourself 
the aggravation? 

To quote Stu's often repeated mantra, "Remember: on topic, no noise, FRIENDLY." 


At the risk of earning your contempt myself I generally agree with John in 
regards to companies that don't post their prices on their web sites. That's 
surely their choice and part of their sales strategy, but for me, working at a 
non-profit with a very small budget, I have learned to just pass them by. 

Many times in the past I have inquired with them for pricing information, and 
nearly 100% of the time the results have been that they are well out of the 
realm of possibility for me. For companies that don't sell direct, the same 
applies if pricing is not available on their reseller's sites either.

This is of course for products that fall into the category of "would be really 
nice to have", not mission critical applications or devices.

Ralph Smith


 

> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:21 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Color issues
> 
> Hey, I've joked before that my role of supervising engineers is like
> teaching kindergarten.
> 
> Well today, even more so.  It's remedial level IT procurement tuition day
> :)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Steven M. Caesare" 
> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:09:44
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues"  software.com>Subject: RE: Color issues
> 
> The issue is not requiring spoonfeeding.
> 
> -sc
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:08 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Color issues
> 
> You go to the car dealership and see a car you like. If there were no
> sticker in the window saying how much it cost would you A) Go ask B) walk
> off the lot? I've always operated under the attitude of "if I have to ask,
> it's too much." Checking the price, it appears that ColorMunki is more
> expensive. That being said it's made by Pantone, the folks who make the
> color charts, so that may be something to consider as well.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 3:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Color issues
> 
> Are you fscking shitting me?
> 
> I can't even be bothered to wrap this in a just fscking google it:
> 
> http://www.google.com/search?q=colormunki&tbs=shop%3A1&aq=f
> 
> Here, even easier:
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-
> keywords
> =colormunki
> 
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, John Aldrich
> 
> wrote:
> Thanks... I looked at ColorMunki, but I didn't see a price. That scares
> me. :D At least with the Spyders, I know up-front what it costs. :D
> 
> 
> 
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 2:36 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Color issues
> 
> +1 on the Spyders.  They are very popular in the pro-photographer crowd.
> 
> --
> ME2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Kennedy, Jim
>  wrote:
> You have to calibrate the monitor. I do this for my photography. I have
> always preferred the Spyder calibrators but there are others.
> 
> http://spyder.datacolor.com/product-mc.php
> 
> Now, you have one more variable. Is your camera accurately capturing the
> color and is your software properly interpreting the data in the image.
> Probably not.  So you calibrate the monitorbut you display a picture
> that has bad color data. Only way to get it near perfect is to shoot a
> color card next to the carpet samplethen adjust the image in photoshop
> so the color card colors are correct.
> 
> However, if you skip the color card step you should be pretty darn close
> with a decent camera and proper lighting.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:53 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Color issues
> 
> Our marketing guy is also our product design guy. He's got some special
> software that allows him to take a carpet pattern and make a picture of
> what it should look like. We then post that picture on our website. One of
> the managers was complaining because the colors don't match up to the
> actual sample. I have tried to explain to him t

RE: Help with script or alternative to suppress flash update notices

[Ralph Smith]

Are you using server 2008 or 2008 R@?  If so why not just put the file
there using GPP? - Computer Config > Preferences > Windows Settings >
Files.
No need for a script & no problem with UAC.

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Shaun N Owens [mailto:snow...@ucdavis.edu]
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 4:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Help with script or alternative to suppress flash update
notices
> 
> Hello,
> I was looking for a way to supress the Adobe Flash update pop ups,
> Accoring to the Adobe site you create a mms.cfg file and copy the file
to
> c:\windows\syswow64 for Windows 7 machines.  I wrote a VB scripts but
I
> get an access is denied error, does anybody have any code to get
around
> the UAC or another way of suppressing the update notifications that
users
> get.  I want to push this out via a GPO somehow
> 
> set objFso=createObject("scripting.fileSystemObject" )
> strFileToCopy="\\ou.MVF.edu\or\GP Software\Flash\mms.cfg"
> strFolder="C:\Windows\SysWOW64"
> if objFso.folderExists(strFolder) then
> objFso.copyFile strFileToCopy,strFolder&"\",true
> end if
> 
> Best,
> Shaun
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RE: Good Linux Web Host

[Ralph Smith]

I've been using jaguarpc.com for several years now.  Off hand I can't
remember the last time it went down.  At the moment we have a very
simple site and are on the $5.00 a month shared hosting plan with
unlimited disk space and bandwidth, but a new Joomla based site we are
building on there seems to be doing fine. 

Can't speak to their hosted servers or VPS plans.

 

The few times I've needed tech support I've used the web based ticket
system or live chat and had a resolution generally within an hour.  They
supposedly have 24/7 phone support but I've never used it.

 

 



From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Good Linux Web Host

 

+1 for 1and1.  Been using them for the last 6 years.

 - WJR



On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 14:51, David Mazzaccaro
 wrote:

www.1and1.com

www.Bluehost.com

 

 

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:48 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Good Linux Web Host

 

Hostgator, tech support is real good, and you'll get an escalation asap
if the tier1 guy cant fix it.

They also run CentOS, which I like...

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:34 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Good Linux Web Host

 

Any recommendations guys? Our current host is down way to often for us.

James

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RE: Windows InTune

[Ralph Smith]

Just to add to the Win 7 on older equipment comment, I'm sitting here right now 
on a six year old Pentium 4 system that is running Windows 7 as well as or 
better than it ran Windows XP. I did have to add in a cheap graphics card 
because I couldn't find a driver for the onboard graphics.

Ralph

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:41 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows InTune
> 
> Regarding Windows 7...
> 
> I've loaded Windows 7 on 3-4 year old hardware and it's out-performed
> %previous version% considerably. Also, 99% of the time, there's no need to
> mess with drivers after the W7 install, which saves time.
> 
> 
> Don Guyer
> Windows Systems Engineer
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
> Enterprise Technology Group
> Fiserv
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> www.fiserv.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows InTune
> 
> Not bad... was thinking of possibly getting that for, as previously
> mentioned, helping out friends and family. :-) I wonder if my refurbed
> Dell
> would meet the minimum specs for Windows 7? :-)
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows InTune
> 
> Yes, you can.  However, you'll still need to use the separate reporting
> mechanism you have in place for Vipre, instead of getting
> alerts/notifications in the all-in-one Intune console.   Personally, I
> don't
> believe that this is a case where MS is attempting to shut out
> competitors,
> but instead trying to provide a complete solution in one package.  In
> addition, MS is pushing heavily to offer "cloud" alternatives to all of
> their System Center products, and I suspect, eventually, the cloud
> solutions
> will be the preferred solutions (give or take 5-10 years).
> 
> Incidentally, there have been solutions like this on the market for a
> long,
> long while.  Kaseya, KACE, Viewfinity, etc.  IMO (i.e., I've worked with
> the
> others) Intune does it better and with less impact to the client.
> 
> On another note, the pricing may seem steep to some, but consider that a
> Windows 7 Enterprise upgrade license comes with it.
> 
> From the FAQ:
> 
> As a Windows Intune customer, you are entitled to the following benefits
> while your subscriptions are active:
> 
> ¦Upgrade rights to Windows 7 Enterprise for all your PCs that are covered
> by
> Windows Intune, as long as they meet the minimum system requirements for
> Windows 7.
> ¦Access to downloadable Volume Licensing media for Windows 7 Enterprise
> (and
> prior versions) and activation keys so that you can install the desired
> version of Windows on your PCs.
> ¦Rights to upgrade to future versions of Windows, as well as downgrade
> rights to older versions.
> ¦Rights to run instances of Windows on up to 4 virtual operating system
> environments on each licensed PC. The Windows Intune cloud service can
> manage one virtual Windows OS environment in addition to one physical.
> 
> Still -- for a lot of companies that don't have a management solution in
> place already, the ROI is quick.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:19 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows InTune
> 
> Very nice. Can you leave out the antivirus portion? I'm very happy with
> Vipre and would prefer to stick with it where possible. Or is this another
> one of those things where Microsoft is trying to take over every possible
> market and shut all competitors out?
> 
> 
> 
> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:29 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Windows InTune
> 
> Nice comprehensive info, thanks!
> On 15 April 2011 13:05, Rod Trent  wrote:
> Microsoft is positioning it as a small to medium company size solution,
> however, it is built to scale to large organizations.  One individual at
> Microsoft (who will remain nameless) said, -It's for larger organizations,
> just as much as for small companies.  My marketing department keeps
> getting
> it wrong.-
> 
> The product has been in beta for almost 2 years (well - actually longer if
> you consider that its roots are in the System Center Online codebase), so
> there's a lot of good stuff baked in.  It does support remote assistance,
> AV
> is awesome (same codebase as Security Essentials), and can be completely
> transparent to the end user (you have several options).
> 
> Made for business, but I run it on all of my family's (and some friends')
> PCs.  If someone has an issue where the agent isn't installed, I can just
> send them a link to load it up and I 

RE: OT: Refurbished/inexpensive Windows PCs

[Ralph Smith]

Since you mentioned some gaming, just make sure you check the specs on the 
Optiplex GX620 - does it have a PCIe slot for a graphics upgrade, for example. 
If it's the small form factor one, there is almost no room for expansion.


 

> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:30 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT: Refurbished/inexpensive Windows PCs
> 
> Yeah…Dell Outlet is kinda pricey. ☺ And with eBay, you never know what
> you’re going to get. I got an email from Surplus Computers this morning
> and they had an Optiplex GX620 for $170 that looks like something that
> would do what I Need (if I do some upgrades after I get it! :-))
> Still...all those upgrades after the fact are gonna raise the price, so if
> I can get something with a DVDRW and some decent memory, I might go for
> that instead. I'm kind of partial to Dell, but I won't refuse something
> that's an IBM or HP or whatever. I think I would decline to buy an
> eMachine simply because I had some bad experiences working on them...hard
> to find aftermarket parts that'll fit (power supplies, etc.)
> 
> 
> 
> From: Charles Whitby [mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:21 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Refurbished/inexpensive Windows PCs
> 
> All kinds of 'em available on eBay.  Ort look at the Dell Outlet
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:02 AM, John Aldrich
>  wrote:
> It looks like I'm going to be needing to get my own Windows machine sooner
> rather than later, as my wife and I are splitting up and I need a Windows
> machine to be able to 1) Run the windows games I like (Wild Tangent games,
> mainly) and 2) use the Windows machine to access the VPN here at the
> office
> and 3) use Windows programs to burn video compilations I have of my Dad
> for
> my family.
> 
> Where do you guys go for your inexpensive refurbished PCs? I'd prefer
> something name-brand, which will take an extra hard drive, etc.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: VPN problems

[Ralph Smith]

I don't remember the details, but there was a thread on the VIPRE Enterprise 
forum several months ago discussing problems using the Cisco VPN client after 
the Premium version was installed.  I believe the solution was to uncheck the 
Sunbelt NDIS filter on the network adapter properties of the Cisco virtual 
network connection'

Sunbelt may have fixed this problem by now - not sure, and don't know what 
version of VIPRE you are on.



Ralph Smith

 

> -Original Message-
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:08 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: VPN problems
> 
> Well, while that would work at home, it doesn't help me on the road. :D I
> suppose I could SSH into my linux box and then VPN in from there, but I"d
> have to set up the VPN connector and I am not positive I remember my
> password. :D
> 
> 
> 
> From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:00 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: VPN problems
> 
> so ?  just RDP into your wife's system and then VPN in from there 
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:17 PM, John Aldrich
> 
> wrote:
> ROFL!!! :) Nahh... she doesn't mind me using it, but it's in the "computer
> room" and I'm usually in the living room watching TV. Plus, I need to be
> able to VPN in from the road if something comes up and I'm out of town
> (vacation, seminar, etc.)
> 
> 
> 
> From: My New Display Name for Bob. :) [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:50 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: VPN problems
> 
> His wife is probably gun shy of letting him use her PC because it still
> works...
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RE: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

[Ralph Smith]

OK, you've got me beat by a couple of years.  



From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install


You feel old?  He was born the year I graduated from HS.




Subject: RE: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 23:19:32 -0500
From: m...@gatewayindustries.org
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


Crap.  I remember that snowstorm, only I was in my senior year at
college.  Now I feel old.



From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install


In 1978 I remember a really big blizzard, jumping off the roofs of
houses into snow piles, and snowmobiling - oh, and best of all, no
school for a WEEK straight because they couldnt clear the roads (in
Cambridge, MA).

I was 6, and that's my memory highlight!

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On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Michael B. Smith
 wrote:


The first computer I built - in 1978 - had 4 KB of RAM and a 40
character hexadecimal display with a hex input keypad. It cost me all my
money (I was in high-school working part time) for a couple of months.

 

But it put me on the path I still follow today! :-)

 

But yes - you are old.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to
install

 

Holy smokes!  1TB of RAMwhen I started programming we had a
whopping 32k to use.  It is not that I'm old, it is that technology is
moving so fast...right?

 

-Jeff Steward

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Jonathan 
wrote:

Swt!


On Jan 14, 2011 9:15 PM, "Michael B. Smith"
 wrote:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980598
> 
> Windows Server 2008 R2 cannot be installed or started on a
computer that has 1 TB or more of RAM
> 
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> 
> Regards,
> 
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> 
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RE: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install

[Ralph Smith]

Crap.  I remember that snowstorm, only I was in my senior year at
college.  Now I feel old.



From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to install


In 1978 I remember a really big blizzard, jumping off the roofs of
houses into snow piles, and snowmobiling - oh, and best of all, no
school for a WEEK straight because they couldnt clear the roads (in
Cambridge, MA).

I was 6, and that's my memory highlight!

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On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Michael B. Smith
 wrote:


The first computer I built - in 1978 - had 4 KB of RAM and a 40
character hexadecimal display with a hex input keypad. It cost me all my
money (I was in high-school working part time) for a couple of months.

 

But it put me on the path I still follow today! :-)

 

But yes - you are old.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Perhaps the BEST hotfix ever that you may need to
install

 

Holy smokes!  1TB of RAMwhen I started programming we had a
whopping 32k to use.  It is not that I'm old, it is that technology is
moving so fast...right?

 

-Jeff Steward

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Jonathan 
wrote:

Swt!

On Jan 14, 2011 9:15 PM, "Michael B. Smith"
 wrote:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980598
> 
> Windows Server 2008 R2 cannot be installed or started on a
computer that has 1 TB or more of RAM
> 
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> 
> 
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RE: OT: Office decorations - Are they allowed for you?

[Ralph Smith]

I agree with all these points about Christmas being called what it is
etc. etc. etc. But on a humorous note, a few years ago when the cashier
at a local department store wished me a merry Christmas, I replied (just
for the hell of it because I'm not Jewish) "Thanks!, And a happy
Hanukkah to you!"  To which she replied, almost like she was embarrassed
"Oh no, I'm not Jewish!"  I guess it goes both ways sometimes.  And yes
I know this was an anomaly, I just thought it was funny.



From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Office decorations - Are they allowed for you?


Some years back, different company, HR stopped objecting to my group
saying "Christmas" in exchange for me not going absolutely batshit crazy
over any and all mentions of any other holiday, such as diwali, etc.


On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Joseph Heaton 
wrote:


A buddy and myself ran lights around our cubicles, and we've
gotten several others involved.  We're having to call them "holiday"
lights, so as not to "offend" anyone.  We also have a small, 3' fiber
optic tree, and some garland to finish it off.

Was just curious if you guys were allowed to do anything like
that.



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RE: Restricting access to Outlook web mail

[Ralph Smith]

I appreciate the feedback.  It's good to have someplace to go to get a
reality check.  It never would have occurred to me that this was an
issue, but now I know better. 

Ralph 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:04 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Restricting access to Outlook web mail
> 
> It's true.  We have the same policy for individuals that are on a
leave
> of absence.  We have had to go to the extremes of disabling their
> accounts to keep them from working.
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Restricting access to Outlook web mail
> 
> 
> Recently the VP in charge of Human Resources has been asking that I
> prevent all hourly employees from accessing their email through the
web.
> Her main concern is that if it discovered that an hourly employee
> accesses their work email while they are not on the clock, they could
be
> considered to have been working and might have to be paid overtime.
> 
> I don't know how true that is, but this is her field of expertise, and
I
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RE: Restricting access to Outlook web mail

[Ralph Smith]

Thanks for the info, looks like I shouldn't have doubted her.  I considered the 
login hours option, but we run a bunch of 24/7 programs with people working all 
kinds of unpredictable hours, so it's going to be easier to just disable OWA 
access for non-exempt employees.

-Original Message-
From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restricting access to Outlook web mail

Your HR VP is correct and this is pretty common especially in places like 
retail operations. Another mechanism I believe you can use is logon hours in AD 
if you have access to that degree of info.

You'll also need to shut down ActiveSync, Outlook Anywhere, and Exchange Web 
Services for this set of folks to cover your bases.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c   - 312.731.3132


-Original Message-----
From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Restricting access to Outlook web mail

 
Recently the VP in charge of Human Resources has been asking that I prevent all 
hourly employees from accessing their email through the web.
Her main concern is that if it discovered that an hourly employee accesses 
their work email while they are not on the clock, they could be considered to 
have been working and might have to be paid overtime.

I don't know how true that is, but this is her field of expertise, and I 
believe she has checked with the lawyers and they agree.

I can do this easily enough, but I'm wondering if this is a common policy or if 
she is being a little overboard about this.  I personally have never 
encountered a policy like this before.

Anybody else have this kind of email policy at their work place?
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RE: Restricting access to Outlook web mail

[Ralph Smith]

OK thanks.  I learn something new all the time.
 

-Original Message-
From: Kramer, Jack [mailto:jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting access to Outlook web mail

This was in place during the (very brief) time I was at Apple. Hourly
employees, of which I was one, could not get access to the webmail as it
was internal only - salary employees were given VPN access. We were
strongly encouraged to avoid work or work-related tasks on break/lunch
as well.

Jack Kramer
Computer Systems Specialist
University Relations, Michigan State University
w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955

On Nov 19, 2010, at 8:22 PM, Ralph Smith wrote:

> 
> Recently the VP in charge of Human Resources has been asking that I 
> prevent all hourly employees from accessing their email through the
web.
> Her main concern is that if it discovered that an hourly employee 
> accesses their work email while they are not on the clock, they could 
> be considered to have been working and might have to be paid overtime.
> 
> I don't know how true that is, but this is her field of expertise, and

> I believe she has checked with the lawyers and they agree.
> 
> I can do this easily enough, but I'm wondering if this is a common 
> policy or if she is being a little overboard about this.  I personally

> have never encountered a policy like this before.
> 
> Anybody else have this kind of email policy at their work place?
> Confidentiality Notice: 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> 
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Restricting access to Outlook web mail

[Ralph Smith]

 
Recently the VP in charge of Human Resources has been asking that I
prevent all hourly employees from accessing their email through the web.
Her main concern is that if it discovered that an hourly employee
accesses their work email while they are not on the clock, they could be
considered to have been working and might have to be paid overtime.

I don't know how true that is, but this is her field of expertise, and I
believe she has checked with the lawyers and they agree.

I can do this easily enough, but I'm wondering if this is a common
policy or if she is being a little overboard about this.  I personally
have never encountered a policy like this before.

Anybody else have this kind of email policy at their work place?
Confidentiality Notice: 

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RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

[Ralph Smith]

1) possibly they have or created an account they used for that purpose
but don't use it as a means of communication.  2) we are talking about
people with mental illnesses, severe emotional problems and social
disabilities, people who come from broken homes, abusive parents, severe
poverty... how do they expect to be taken seriously because they don't
use email???  Often we are trying to get them to understand the
necessity to bathe if they wan't to stay employed.  We do a lot of work
with teenagers and young adults.  To a lot of them, and this is
increasingly true of a lot of younger people, email is kind of a quant
old fashioned way to communicate.  They text, they instant message, they
chat on social networking sites, but email is for old people.
 
 



From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.



How does 1) someone sign up to Facebook without an email account and 2)
expect to be taken seriously AT ALL telling someone FB is the only way
they communicate with people?

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

 

Wouldn't bother me, but the last time I did it the HR department
complained because they use Facebook for recruiting, and a lot of our
vocational counselors complained.  We are a non-profit that provides
various services for people with physical and mental disabilities, or
have difficulty gaining employment and or housing due to other
disadvantages.  Many clients don't have email but do all of their
electronic communication through sites like Facebook (which seems to be
the trend now especially among our younger clients).  So Facebook is the
means by which a lot of our staff keep in contact with their clients.

 

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RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

[Ralph Smith]

That's what I'll do.



From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.



Set up a firewall rule that allows certain people access - that's what I did 
for our folks.  Otherwise, they're blocked.

 

Sean Rector, MCSE

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

 

Wouldn't bother me, but the last time I did it the HR department complained 
because they use Facebook for recruiting, and a lot of our vocational 
counselors complained.  We are a non-profit that provides various services for 
people with physical and mental disabilities, or have difficulty gaining 
employment and or housing due to other disadvantages.  Many clients don't have 
email but do all of their electronic communication through sites like Facebook 
(which seems to be the trend now especially among our younger clients).  So 
Facebook is the means by which a lot of our staff keep in contact with their 
clients.

 



From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

So maybe facebook needs to be blocked, oh how horrible..

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Ralph Smith  wrote:

Yes, that's it.  We had one workstation that had the fake Thinkpoint scan 
running, so apparently VIPRE AP didn't block it from executing on that one.

On every affected machine we have seen, looking at the browser history each 
user was on Facebook immediately prior to VIPRE AP reacting.  I continue to try 
to educate users about safe surfing, but I may have to block Facebook if VIPRE 
is unable to deal with it soon. 



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 

Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:51 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

 

Yep, that is a driveby malware we have seen accordingly, it's the thinkpoint 
virus. 

 

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\hotfix.exe

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\dkfjasdfshd.bat

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Desktop\mstsc.exe

 

Is what we saw in our inspect of some workstations. 

 

Z

 

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org <mailto:email%3aezi...@lifespan.org> 

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:47 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus. 

 

I've seen on a few computers over the last couple of weeks where there is a 
file on the user's desktop called MSTSC.exe, and there are various executables 
scattered around in the user's profile with various names the same as or close 
to legitimate Windows files, including SVCHOST.EXE.

 

I sent samples to the VIPRE folks a few times - haven't heard anything back.  
In my case VIPRE active protection kept blocking the execution of the files, 
but didn't recognize them as threats when doing a full scan.  MalwareBytes 
found and cleaned a bunch of stuff, but the next time the computer was rebooted 
it was back.  Trend also saw them but couldn't remove them.  I've been wiping 
and re-imaging them.

 



From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:32 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

   The virus came in this morning, via the internet browser. 

 

hkey_users\default\software\Microsoft\Windows NT\Current backdoor-faaa!1 Torjan

windows|Load hkey_users\s-1-5-19\Software\WIndows NT\CUrrent\ Backdoor-FAAA1! 
Torjan

 

 

Internet Settigns [Proxy Server  
hkey_users\s-1-5-21-3786461165-302493939458-2064062449-500

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:

There was a post on ISC just a day or two ago about another version of 
Conficker B++ accordingly, making the rounds. Just an idea, but might be your 
culprit. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org <mailto:email%3aezi...@lifespan.org> 

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:14 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

 

OH I yet to call them, I will call them soon, but want to see what the list 
says.

 

But I wanted to see if the malling list saw this before..

Back-Door-F!1, is the name that mcafee detected it as.

 

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Jim Holmgren  wrote:

What did Vipre Tech Support say wh

RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

[Ralph Smith]

Wouldn't bother me, but the last time I did it the HR department complained 
because they use Facebook for recruiting, and a lot of our vocational 
counselors complained.  We are a non-profit that provides various services for 
people with physical and mental disabilities, or have difficulty gaining 
employment and or housing due to other disadvantages.  Many clients don't have 
email but do all of their electronic communication through sites like Facebook 
(which seems to be the trend now especially among our younger clients).  So 
Facebook is the means by which a lot of our staff keep in contact with their 
clients.



From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.


So maybe facebook needs to be blocked, oh how horrible..


On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Ralph Smith  wrote:


Yes, that's it.  We had one workstation that had the fake Thinkpoint 
scan running, so apparently VIPRE AP didn't block it from executing on that one.
On every affected machine we have seen, looking at the browser history 
each user was on Facebook immediately prior to VIPRE AP reacting.  I continue 
to try to educate users about safe surfing, but I may have to block Facebook if 
VIPRE is unable to deal with it soon. 



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 

Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:51 PM 

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.



Yep, that is a driveby malware we have seen accordingly, it's the 
thinkpoint virus. 

 

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\hotfix.exe

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\dkfjasdfshd.bat

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Desktop\mstsc.exe

 

Is what we saw in our inspect of some workstations. 

 

Z

 

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org <mailto:email%3aezi...@lifespan.org> 

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:47 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus. 



 

I've seen on a few computers over the last couple of weeks where there 
is a file on the user's desktop called MSTSC.exe, and there are various 
executables scattered around in the user's profile with various names the same 
as or close to legitimate Windows files, including SVCHOST.EXE.

 

I sent samples to the VIPRE folks a few times - haven't heard anything 
back.  In my case VIPRE active protection kept blocking the execution of the 
files, but didn't recognize them as threats when doing a full scan.  
MalwareBytes found and cleaned a bunch of stuff, but the next time the computer 
was rebooted it was back.  Trend also saw them but couldn't remove them.  I've 
been wiping and re-imaging them.

 



From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:32 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.



   The virus came in this morning, via the internet browser. 

 

hkey_users\default\software\Microsoft\Windows NT\Current 
backdoor-faaa!1 Torjan

windows|Load hkey_users\s-1-5-19\Software\WIndows NT\CUrrent\ 
Backdoor-FAAA1! Torjan

 

 

Internet Settigns [Proxy Server  
hkey_users\s-1-5-21-3786461165-302493939458-2064062449-500

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Ziots, Edward  
wrote:

There was a post on ISC just a day or two ago about another version of 
Conficker B++ accordingly, making the rounds. Just an idea, but might be your 
culprit. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org <mailto:email%3aezi...@lifespan.org> 

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:14 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.



 

OH I yet to call them, I will call them soon, but want to see what the 
list says.

 

But I wanted to see if the malling list saw this before..

Back-Door-F!1, is the name that mcafee detected it as.

 

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Jim Ho

RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

[Ralph Smith]

Yes, that's it.  We had one workstation that had the fake Thinkpoint scan 
running, so apparently VIPRE AP didn't block it from executing on that one.
On every affected machine we have seen, looking at the browser history each 
user was on Facebook immediately prior to VIPRE AP reacting.  I continue to try 
to educate users about safe surfing, but I may have to block Facebook if VIPRE 
is unable to deal with it soon. 


From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.



Yep, that is a driveby malware we have seen accordingly, it's the thinkpoint 
virus. 

 

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\hotfix.exe

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\dkfjasdfshd.bat

C:\Documents and Settings\username\Desktop\mstsc.exe

 

Is what we saw in our inspect of some workstations. 

 

Z

 

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

 

I've seen on a few computers over the last couple of weeks where there is a 
file on the user's desktop called MSTSC.exe, and there are various executables 
scattered around in the user's profile with various names the same as or close 
to legitimate Windows files, including SVCHOST.EXE.

 

I sent samples to the VIPRE folks a few times - haven't heard anything back.  
In my case VIPRE active protection kept blocking the execution of the files, 
but didn't recognize them as threats when doing a full scan.  MalwareBytes 
found and cleaned a bunch of stuff, but the next time the computer was rebooted 
it was back.  Trend also saw them but couldn't remove them.  I've been wiping 
and re-imaging them.

 



From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

   The virus came in this morning, via the internet browser. 

 

hkey_users\default\software\Microsoft\Windows NT\Current backdoor-faaa!1 Torjan

windows|Load hkey_users\s-1-5-19\Software\WIndows NT\CUrrent\ Backdoor-FAAA1! 
Torjan

 

 

Internet Settigns [Proxy Server  
hkey_users\s-1-5-21-3786461165-302493939458-2064062449-500

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:

There was a post on ISC just a day or two ago about another version of 
Conficker B++ accordingly, making the rounds. Just an idea, but might be your 
culprit. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org <mailto:email%3aezi...@lifespan.org> 

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

 

OH I yet to call them, I will call them soon, but want to see what the list 
says.

 

But I wanted to see if the malling list saw this before..

Back-Door-F!1, is the name that mcafee detected it as.

 

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Jim Holmgren  wrote:

What did Vipre Tech Support say when you called them?

 

 

Jim Holmgren

Manager of Server Engineering

XLHealth Corporation

The Warehouse at Camden Yards

351 West Camden Street, Suite 100

Baltimore, MD 21201 

410.625.2200 (main)

443.524.8573 (direct)

443-506.2400 (cell)

www.xlhealth.com

 

 

 

From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

 

 Vipre did not detect it, or clean it. Anti-virus definitions were up to date,  
active scanner was running as well, so I'm a bit concerned the active scanner 
didn't pick it up. 


The virus was still loading in his run command in the registry so I had to 
uninstall Vipre and put my own copy of McAfee on his machine to get rid of the 
virus.   

 

Any ideas??
-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

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RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

[Ralph Smith]

It depends on the machine.  At various times we have used Norton Ghost, 
GhostImage, Drive Image XML and Acronis to create an image, so the appropriate 
tool is used to restore it.  When we set up a new computer we create an image 
of the clean install, and then use that if we need to reimage it in the future.



From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.


I guess best is just to reimage / wipe / reimage the system. 
Ralph what do you use for reimage of the system?



On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Ralph Smith  wrote:


I've seen on a few computers over the last couple of weeks where there 
is a file on the user's desktop called MSTSC.exe, and there are various 
executables scattered around in the user's profile with various names the same 
as or close to legitimate Windows files, including SVCHOST.EXE.
 
I sent samples to the VIPRE folks a few times - haven't heard anything 
back.  In my case VIPRE active protection kept blocking the execution of the 
files, but didn't recognize them as threats when doing a full scan.  
MalwareBytes found and cleaned a bunch of stuff, but the next time the computer 
was rebooted it was back.  Trend also saw them but couldn't remove them.  I've 
been wiping and re-imaging them.




From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 

Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:32 PM 

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.


   The virus came in this morning, via the internet browser. 


hkey_users\default\software\Microsoft\Windows NT\Current 
backdoor-faaa!1 Torjan
windows|Load hkey_users\s-1-5-19\Software\WIndows NT\CUrrent\ 
Backdoor-FAAA1! Torjan




Internet Settigns [Proxy Server  
hkey_users\s-1-5-21-3786461165-302493939458-2064062449-500


On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Ziots, Edward  
wrote:


There was a post on ISC just a day or two ago about another 
version of Conficker B++ accordingly, making the rounds. Just an idea, but 
might be your culprit. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org <mailto:email%3aezi...@lifespan.org> 

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

 

OH I yet to call them, I will call them soon, but want to see 
what the list says.

 

But I wanted to see if the malling list saw this before..

Back-Door-F!1, is the name that mcafee detected it as.

 

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Jim Holmgren 
 wrote:

What did Vipre Tech Support say when you called them?

 

 

Jim Holmgren

Manager of Server Engineering

XLHealth Corporation

The Warehouse at Camden Yards

351 West Camden Street, Suite 100

Baltimore, MD 21201 

410.625.2200 (main)

443.524.8573 (direct)

443-506.2400 (cell)

www.xlhealth.com

 

 

 

From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

 

 Vipre did not detect it, or clean it. Anti-virus definitions 
were up to date,  active scanner was running as well, so I'm a bit concerned 
the active scanner didn't pick it up. 


The virus was still loading in his run command in the registry 
so I had to uninstall Vipre and put my own copy of McAfee on his machine to get 
rid of the virus.   



 

Any ideas??
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RE: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

[Ralph Smith]

I've seen on a few computers over the last couple of weeks where there is a 
file on the user's desktop called MSTSC.exe, and there are various executables 
scattered around in the user's profile with various names the same as or close 
to legitimate Windows files, including SVCHOST.EXE.
 
I sent samples to the VIPRE folks a few times - haven't heard anything back.  
In my case VIPRE active protection kept blocking the execution of the files, 
but didn't recognize them as threats when doing a full scan.  MalwareBytes 
found and cleaned a bunch of stuff, but the next time the computer was rebooted 
it was back.  Trend also saw them but couldn't remove them.  I've been wiping 
and re-imaging them.



From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.


   The virus came in this morning, via the internet browser. 


hkey_users\default\software\Microsoft\Windows NT\Current backdoor-faaa!1 Torjan
windows|Load hkey_users\s-1-5-19\Software\WIndows NT\CUrrent\ Backdoor-FAAA1! 
Torjan




Internet Settigns [Proxy Server  
hkey_users\s-1-5-21-3786461165-302493939458-2064062449-500


On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:


There was a post on ISC just a day or two ago about another version of 
Conficker B++ accordingly, making the rounds. Just an idea, but might be your 
culprit. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org  

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

 

OH I yet to call them, I will call them soon, but want to see what the 
list says.

 

But I wanted to see if the malling list saw this before..

Back-Door-F!1, is the name that mcafee detected it as.

 

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Jim Holmgren  
wrote:

What did Vipre Tech Support say when you called them?

 

 

Jim Holmgren

Manager of Server Engineering

XLHealth Corporation

The Warehouse at Camden Yards

351 West Camden Street, Suite 100

Baltimore, MD 21201 

410.625.2200 (main)

443.524.8573 (direct)

443-506.2400 (cell)

www.xlhealth.com

 

 

 

From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: vipre: SVCHOST.EXE virus.

 

 Vipre did not detect it, or clean it. Anti-virus definitions were up 
to date,  active scanner was running as well, so I'm a bit concerned the active 
scanner didn't pick it up. 


The virus was still loading in his run command in the registry so I had 
to uninstall Vipre and put my own copy of McAfee on his machine to get rid of 
the virus.   



 

Any ideas??
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RE: A real puzzler...

[Ralph Smith]

Do you have an AV application on the server?  The reason I ask is I had
some servers that exibited the exact symptoms you are describing after
installing VIPRE Premium on them.  Removing VIPRE solved the problem.




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From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 1:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: A real puzzler...

All,

I'm in the US, and have a problem in our AU office that I'm having
difficulty wrapping my brain around. I have a theory, but it is still a
strange situation, and any feedback anyone can provide would be
appreciated.

The AU office has a server, which I've just recently stood up, using an
address assigned by DHCP. This is not ideal, obviously, but the thing
refuses to take the static IP address that it's slated to get
(192.168.61.30.) It's a VM on a new ESXi server.

When I try to assign it the static address, it keeps getting an error
message that another machine has the address.

However, when I ping the IP address that the machine refuses to use, I
get no answer.

When I use netmon on the VM in the AU office to capture ARP traffic, I
get a MAC address that's for the DC. However, the DC has never had
192.168.61.30 - it's been 192.168.61.31 all its life in the AU office.

I've even fired up regedit on the DC to search for the IP address, and
all I'm showing is the one it's supposed to have - 192.168.61.31

I'm more than a little baffled by this one.

One thing I should note, just because: The DC in the AU office is a
machine that had been used in the US office about two years ago. We did
a P2V on it, and the VM from that still lives on in the US office.
They do share a MAC address (I don't know why, as I would have expected
the the MAC to change when it got the virtual NIC), but AFAICT this
shouldn't make a difference, since they are in different subnets
entirely, with different addresses.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

Kurt

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RE: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Ralph Smith]

As long as you are a subscriber you can access Windows IT Pro articles
online.  I don't bother keeping the paper copies any more - when I want
to go back to an article I get it online.  Of course I wouldn't know
there was an article to go back to if I hadn't read it in the print copy
first.  TechNet is only digital, so I haven't read it in a long time.



From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?


I like this idea but would need a page scanner to convert some that I am
keeping.  BTW, doesn't both TechNet and Windows IT Pro keep an online
archive of their mags some place?
 
Jon


On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:42 PM,
 wrote:


I find it easier to scan in the articles/pages I find
interesting and
then recycle the magazine...

So, my messy papaers just become messy files...


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RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Ralph Smith]

Hm.  Building time into my work day for reading ain't gonna work - too
much to do and too little time as it is.  The Kindle, iStuff etc. might
be good if I had one.  Maybe somebody will get me one for my birthday.
 
 



From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?


Not disagreeing - I want that work stuff available as reference at my
desk or hotel table. As I say, hobby and business stuff, on paper so I
can read it at the bar - I don't read tech pubs socially. 

I have been known to build time in to my work schedule for professional
reading/development. 

____

From: "Ralph Smith"  
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:02:06 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"

Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

All good points about the advantages of digital, but for me if I'm in
front of the computer I'm usually working, not reading magazines.  So
for me if it's digital the only time I'll reference it is if I need
something specific.  I like to get away from the computer to do my
reading.



From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?


PDF/A read on an iPad. Indexed, searchable, easily carryable in bulk or
shared out via a/the Cloud. 

I like my guitar, gun and business mags on paper, so I can read them
over lunch/dinner at a bar and then trash them. Anything to do with
"work", digital is king. 



From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"  
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:11:00 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"

Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?


+100

 

I'm afraid that we're seeing the end of paper bound trade pubs as we
know it.

 

Call me old fashioned, but I think it is sooo much easier to thumb
through a book or magazine sometimes than to search online. And then
there's also the concern of whether the content has been tampered with
or not. Hard to tamper with a physical copy once it has been printed and
bound...

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I'm pretty disappointed it went digital. I'd definitely be willing to
pay for it, but they gave out so many free subscriptions, I think it
just became a casualty.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I'm curious - a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines.  Does
everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only?
I used to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven't looked at it
since it stopped coming in a print version.

 



From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory
voice that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is
online...well, it can be changed...

 

:-)

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack
rat comes back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or
that little article and it won't be out there...

 



From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I
took the opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.
I realized that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two
years (Google is so much easier).

 

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
___

RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Ralph Smith]

All good points about the advantages of digital, but for me if I'm in
front of the computer I'm usually working, not reading magazines.  So
for me if it's digital the only time I'll reference it is if I need
something specific.  I like to get away from the computer to do my
reading.



From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?


PDF/A read on an iPad. Indexed, searchable, easily carryable in bulk or
shared out via a/the Cloud. 

I like my guitar, gun and business mags on paper, so I can read them
over lunch/dinner at a bar and then trash them. Anything to do with
"work", digital is king. 



From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"  
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:11:00 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"

Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?


+100

 

I'm afraid that we're seeing the end of paper bound trade pubs as we
know it.

 

Call me old fashioned, but I think it is sooo much easier to thumb
through a book or magazine sometimes than to search online. And then
there's also the concern of whether the content has been tampered with
or not. Hard to tamper with a physical copy once it has been printed and
bound...

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I'm pretty disappointed it went digital. I'd definitely be willing to
pay for it, but they gave out so many free subscriptions, I think it
just became a casualty.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I'm curious - a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines.  Does
everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only?
I used to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven't looked at it
since it stopped coming in a print version.

 



From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory
voice that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is
online...well, it can be changed...

 

:-)

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack
rat comes back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or
that little article and it won't be out there...

 



From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I
took the opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.
I realized that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two
years (Google is so much easier).

 

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com <http://www.rolandschorr.com/> 
b...@rolandschorr.com <mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com> 

Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr <http://www.twitter.com/bschorr>


Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr
<http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr>  

 

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to
Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with
one solution... Get another bookshelf ;-)

 

One of these days, I will toss some of them.

 

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I still have the Wi

RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

[Ralph Smith]

I'm curious - a few mentioned keeping their old TechNet magazines.  Does
everyone else keep up with that publication since it went digital only?
I used to look forward to it, but have to admit I haven't looked at it
since it stopped coming in a print version.

 



From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Aside from that...the nagging thing in my mind is the conspiracy theory
voice that says, if you have it in print, you can prove it. If it is
online...well, it can be changed...

 

:-)

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

True - that's what I keep thinking, maybe all of this is right at our
fingertips online for however long we will need it, but then the pack
rat comes back and whispers, you know, you may need this little book or
that little article and it won't be out there...

 



From: Ben Schorr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 3:10:39 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I had that situation.  Then my wife and I moved to a new house and I
took the opportunity to donate most of them to the local public library.
I realized that I'd rarely opened any of those books in the previous two
years (Google is so much easier).

 

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com  
b...@rolandschorr.com  

Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr 


Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rolandschorr
  

 

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 13:03
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

In my office at home, I had a bookshelf full of IT books  dating back to
Windows 3.1, etc.  The bookshelf got full. So I was able to come up with
one solution... Get another bookshelf ;-)

 

One of these days, I will toss some of them.

 

From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

I still have the Windows IT Pro mags too.  I get rid of the CIO,
Information week, etc. type pubs.  I do have about 30 years of Model
Railroading mags that I won't get rid of :)

My other bad habit is keeping those thick Software books like NT 4.0
Networking, SMS Admin Scripting, Teach yourself C in 21 days, etc.
That's where I should clean house...

 

Don K

 



From: Webster 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 12:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: trade publications - toss or archive?

I still keep my TechNet and Windows IT Pro mags.  I threw out all the
other mags I had dating back to 1984.  I had to get permission from my
office landlord to throw them all away because I filled up the dumpster
for the building!  City recycling didn't want that much paper.

 

 

Webster

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Subject: OT: trade publications - toss or archive?

 

Ok, so I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm a pack rat.

 

I'm trying to changereally.

 

I've got a ton of trade publications, dating back years:

 

Information Week

CIO Decisions

Technet

Windows IT Pro

Storage

Information Security

 

And I'm sure a few others.

 

For those of you that subscribe to and read these magazines, do you see
ANY value in keeping them for any length of time after you've
skimmed/read them? I'm leaning toward pitching [read: recycling]
anything more than 3 months old, but just wanted some objective
perspective.

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RE: Could use your feedback...

[Ralph Smith]

Stu,

It looks good, but I do have a couple of comments.  

On the slide that has the case studies: I know my users, and as soon as
the narration stops and they are expected to read a few paragraphs of
text, most of them will skip over it.  If I were doing it I would
automatically go to each case study and continue reading it out loud.
Also, if it is known how the scam was pulled off, such as an example of
the phishing email, showing that would have an impact on end users.

On the Dangerous Emails slide I would say the same thing - read the
explanation for each type of email out loud.  Showing an example email
highlighting the tip offs of why it is suspect would also be
interesting.

Other than that, I like it and would like to be able to have my end
users view something like this.


Ralph

-Original Message-
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 5:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Could use your feedback...

 
KnowBe4 will soon release it's first Internet Security Awareness
Training product.  
It will make end-users aware of the dangers of social engineering and
spear phishing.  
If you are interested, here is a beta you can check out:  
http://www.ptrain.com/isat/draft1/  
 
We need your input about the product name. Please rate these four
options, or let me know if you want to propose another name: 
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RE: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware

[Ralph Smith]

Along these lines, does anyone have experience with or have an opinion
on a similar product from dyndns.com

 

http://www.dyndns.com/services/dynguide/

 

The premium service is only $20 per year, and they seem to use Barracuda
for their content and site blocking.  Not a lot of detail on their web
site.

 

 



From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 12:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware

 

OpenDNS also offers FamilyShield:  https://www.opendns.com/familyshield
 

 

 Not quite a comprehensive as
their standard product, but more security features.  Of course, I expect
ClearCloud to be better against more malware.

 

OpenDNS does block *some* malware sites, except in the BASIC service.
(I'm subscribed to the $9.95/yr plan)

 

Anyway, I've put in a request for them to use external malware feeds and
allow purchasing/obtaining the malware function across all subscription
levels.



ASB (My XeeSM Profile)   
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...
 

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Alex Eckelberry
 wrote:

OpenDNS is a Cadillac Escalade, ClearCloud DNS is a Porsche.

 

Ok, that's the hyperbole.  But it's apt. 

 

I like OpenDNS.  I have used the service, and we are very good friends
with the principals over there.  

 

But OpenDNS is a very sophisticated system that includes content
filtering.  ClearCloud is just focused on malware sites.  

 

OpenDNS does not block malware sites, instead requiring an additional
fee: 

 

https://www.opendns.com/start/

 

Users of both products who have been testing it indicate that they
prefer ClearCloud because:

-  It is very simple - just enter the IP number and go.  Unlike
OpenDNS, we don't care where you IP originated from (for configuration
management), so we don't have to worry about updating dynamic DNS, etc.


-  It's quite a bit faster.  OpenDNS does a lot of incredible
things, but these come at a performance cost. 

OpenDNS is a company setup to make money on DNS. We aren't.  For us, the
DNS portion of ClearCloud is only one part of the equation.  ClearCloud
is actually the DNS infrastructure which will provide a major part of
our future cloud-services model.  So it pops off the work we're already
doing. That's not to say we won't try and figure out a way to make some
money off of it at some point (maybe by charging business a small fee
for it at some point in the future), but it's not our primary focus. 

 

But simply: If you're not worried about content filtering (which has its
limitations anyway in DNS, since you can only block a domain, not a full
URL), then ClearCloud is better. If you want content filtering, use
OpenDNS.

 

 

Alex

 

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:24 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware

 

OpenDNS provides similar benefits...


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On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:27 AM, John Hornbuckle
 wrote:

Trying it now. Love the concept-let's see if it helps.  :)

 

 

 

From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:58 PM

 

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware

 

Btw, we update the malware URLs of these rogues right into ClearCloud.

 

Feel free to and the ClearCloud DNS server as a replacement to your
existing DNS:

 

http://clearclouddns.com/

 

It's still beta, but I think you'll find it works quite well.  And it's
free. 

 

 

Alex

 

 

 

From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:55 PM

 

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware

 

http://vipre.malwarebytes.org/

 

Free.  And the combination really works. 

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:20 PM

 

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: #*&$&% "Security Tools" Malware

 

The "Security Tools" malware is about to drive me insane. My users keep
managing to infect themselves with it, and we're having trouble stopping
it.

 

They don't run with admin rights, so there's no real damage done to
their systems and we can clean it up in about two minutes. But the time
adds up, and I'm tired of my technicians having to waste time on it.

 

Our antimalware software is Microsoft's Forefront Client Security, and
it's having a tough time catching this. Every time I get infected, I
send the EXE to Microsoft and they update their definitions-but the
EXE's used by the malware apparently change rapidly, and seem to
constantly be a step ahead of FCS's definitions.

 

I can think of a couple of options t

RE: iTunes

[Ralph Smith]

I would add that there are several group policy settings available that
can limit the way WMP is used on a Windows network.  I am not aware of
any way to centrally manage iTunes on a Windows network.

 

 



From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: iTunes

 

Windows Media Player is not a good analogy.  There are often work
related files and it si mainly a player.  To have a more complete
analogy.  While it sort of can pull files from the Internet, it isn't
really very automatic about it.  You would want to compare the desire to
install the Zune software with installing the iTunes software.
Ironically, with the release of the Windows Phone 7 series this fall,
this is a timely comparison and one people will have to deal with.  

Steven Peck
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On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Andrew S. Baker 
wrote:

>>Isn't that liability mitigation through obscurity, then?

No.  Obscurity in this setting would be installing iTunes and then
renaming the executable and removing icons or some other such thing.

And there is no rule against mitigating liability through obscurity.
(Even the much ballyhooed "no security through obscurity" mantra is not
100% valid.  Who advertises what brand and make of wall safe they use,
or provides maps to it, for example?)

This is all about dealing with known areas of concern. The iTunes app
has had its fair share of security issues.  That is also true of other
apps, of course, but if you don't *need* it in an environment for
business purposes, why add that burden?  If you are in an environment
that sees abuse of WMP, then you should rightfully address that.
However, the discussion was about allowing iTunes, which is known to
induce or facilitate specific usage patterns that are not generally
conducive to useful consumption of resources. Thus, the advice was to
NOT introduce this element into the environment.

Given that WMP is probably available on these machines, the fact that
they're looking to add something else, indicates that it is not being
used in that capacity, and thus not a concern (or as much of a concern)
as iTunes.

Regardless of the validity of the file sharing portion of the argument,
that was only one of the potential problems mentioned.  I, certainly,
did not reference it, because it was not material to my point.

As for threat vectors, there are many things we allow in one context but
not another.  Many of the organizations that block .EXE and .PDF files
via email still allow them via file shares or SharePoint or whatever.
It's about mitigating liability where the liability is occurring.

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On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Jonathan Link 
wrote:

Isn't that liability mitigation through obscurity, then?

We discuss the importance of being complete and thorough in
discharing our duties.  It isn't even the vector for transmission, it
just encourages a behavior, because it makes these files readily
available for easy viewing/listening/browsing.  Windows Media Player
does the same thing?  Are users familiar with it?  In my experience, if
iTunes isn't available people quickly turn to it.  Choosing not to
install iTunes to prevent illegal file sharing is a lot like a consumer
buying a Mac because it is more secure.

The behavior needs to be addressed.  Whether iTunes is allowable
or not is an entirely different consideration.  We're doing a disservice
if we as a community suggest that if you don't install iTunes, you won't
have problems with illegal file sharing.  In my experience, that isn't
the case.

 

-Jonathan

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Andrew S. Baker
 wrote:

I'm going to have to disagree, Jonathan 

 

Mere file copying is not what we're discussing here.
As Erik notes, iTunes facilitates the copying/uploading a GB of files in
a single bound.  Anecdotally, the number of people using iTunes for this
purpose over WMP is probably 20 to 1.

 

Think of how many threads we've seen with iTunes related
issues vs WMP related ones on this list alone.

 

While you can play multimedia with WMP, and I'm sure
that some of that goes on in many organizations, how likely are you to
see someone trying to get their WMA or WAV collection onto their home
share for use in WMP? 


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On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Jonathan Link
 wrote:

This argument is bunk, unless you also take the
effort to remove Windows Media Player.

Even that's bunk.  Music files c

Anyone using EminentWare WSUS Extension Pack?

[Ralph Smith]

Just watched a couple of videos on their site - it looks like it adds
some nice functionality to WSUS including managing third party patching.
The price doesn't look too bad compared to some other patch management
apps.

Anyone using it or can comment?

 

Thanks.

 

 


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RE: Portable A/C for computer room?

[Ralph Smith]

I must have been lucky.  After 3 years of NO AC in my server room, which
is 8 x16 with about 8 servers, my place finally relented and got me a GE
portable, I think it was 10,000 BTU.  That thing ran 24/7 for 4 years
and helped a lot, but as we replaced older servers with more powerful
ones, and added more servers, it couldn't keep up any more.  We got a
ductless unit for the server room, and the portable was moved to the
kitchen in the cafeteria and ran there for another 6 months, and now it
is in a small server room in one of our branch offices for the last 6
months.  Five years and still going strong.

 

Ralph

 



From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Portable A/C for computer room?

 

I got 3 at my previous day job and all three failed after about a year
or so of service.  Getting rid of them meant holding until property tags
etc were approved for disposal.  Then waiting for disposal to happen.
In other words not worth the time or effort unless these are just for
emergency use I would avoid them.

 

Jon

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I am looking for suggestions on a portable air conditioner for my server
room. 
Room is 9' x 13' and currently has a Mr. Slim AC unit in it. 
In the event of a power outage, I am planning on using a portable
generator to run a portable AC unit to keep things cool.

>From what I've seen on Lowes.com and other places, 11,000 BTU units are
under $500. 
Any thing else I need to look for when getting one of these? 



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RE: OT: Vipre effectiveness & false positives

[Ralph Smith]

You're right.  The best approach is to make a decision based on what you
want to be true, and then stick to it no matter what, disregarding any
information that might be troubling.

Thanks for the enlightenment -)

 

Actually, Alex sent me some data that shows detection results for over
40 products including VIPRE, and while VIPRE wasn't always at the top of
the list for any given date or type of threat, it often was and made a
very good showing overall.

Of course, anyone may interpret that data as they wish, but I was
satisfied by what it showed. 

 

Ralph



From: andy [mailto:afo...@psu.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Vipre effectiveness & false positives

 

all data is used to indicate what you want it to show.


At 09:52 PM 7/29/2010, Ralph Smith wrote:



Willlburrr!...



From: Michael B. Smith [ mailto:mich...@smithcons.com
<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com> ] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Vipre effectiveness & false positives

Not if his name is Mr. Ed. :-)

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From: Ralph Smith 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness & false positives

I don't disagree, but when you are presented with information you have
to evaluate the validity of the data, and hopefully get clarification
from those involved when it implies that there may be a problem.  Virus
Bulletin actually warned in the explanation of the chart that it was
just one result and that conclusions shouldn't be jumped to until there
was more data.  
 
And sometimes, a horse is just a horse, of course.
 
 



From: Kim Longenbaugh [ mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com
<mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com> ] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 4:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness & false positives

My point was really that all AV vendors have experience FPs, not just
Vipre.

 

I agree that statistics can be a valuable tool, it's just that which
ones you choose and how you present them can be misleading.  For
example, in a horse race between the US and Russia, the US horse won.
In the American papers, it was reported that the US was took first
place.  In the Russian papers, it was reported that the US was next to
last and that Russia was second place.  The statistics reported in both
cases were true, but the picture they gave of the race was very
different.

 

From: Ralph Smith [ mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org
<mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org> ] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness & false positives

 

True, but there were people on the VIPRE forum that were hit just as
hard by a couple of the FPs that VIPRE had.  I'm not knocking VIPRE at
all - I like it a lot and would purchase it again with no hesitation.

 

However, when a well known organization like Virus Bulletin publishes
test results, it makes sense to look at the data and try to understand
what it means and how it may impact your organization.   I personally
feel confident with Sunbelt, but I would be interested to understand how
they interpret the chart and what they feel the implications are for
their product.

 

By the way, some lies may be statistics, but not all statistics are
lies.  Information, including statistical, is the basis for sound
decision making.

 



From: Kim Longenbaugh [ mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com
<mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com> ] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness & false positives

 

How about a little perspective on false positives?

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20003074-83.html

 

and a reminder about statistics from Mark Twain:

"there's 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics"

 

 

From: Ralph Smith [ mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org
<mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org> ] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vipre effectiveness & false positives

 

I've had VIPRE for a couple of years now, and was fortunately not hit
hard with the false positive problems others have had.  With about 180
Win XP machines, I've had only a half dozen infections in that time -
all but one of the rogue AV kind, so I have been feeling pretty good.

 

However, the chart that was linked to is a bit worrying - the only
popular business class AV solution that scored worse was CA (my former
solution), and most of the others - McAfee, ESET, Kaspersky, Sophos to
name a few - show significantly better results.

 

It would be interesting to hear a comment from Sunbelt

RE: Free Outlook Alternatives

[Ralph Smith]

Just saw this in a newsletter from Sourceforge this morning:

 

9. DavMail POP/IMAP/SMTP/Caldav to Exchange
https://sourceforge.net/projects/davmail Ever wanted to get rid of
Outlook ? DavMail is a POP/IMAP/SMTP/Caldav/LDAP gateway allowing users
to use any mail/calendar client with Exchange, even from the internet
through Outlook Web Access on any platform, tested on MacOSX, Linux and
Windows

 

 

Never heard of it before, but in case you're interested.

 

 



From: Robert Jackson [mailto:r...@walkermartyn.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 3:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Free Outlook Alternatives

 

Anyone recommend a good free M$ Outlook alternative (for Windows) that
fully integrates with Exchange Server (2003)?

 

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Rab.

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