RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review
Does anybody know when there will be a firewall product included in Vipre? I like the AV but we're looking to scrape out PCCillin too, not just our Trend. Jason From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 5:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review We are working on some in-house comparisons very similar to the ones done in reviews That one will have McCrappy included !!;-D Stu From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Thanks for thus Stu! Do you know of anything comparing it to McAfee? I am evaluating McAfee Endpoint Security (full disk encryption) and since we already have McAfee Enterprise it will be tougher to moving away from McAfee since the same console that handles McAfee AV (McAfee ePO) also manages their enterprise encryption tool... Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Tom, In that case read this new review at ZDNet. It compares VIPRE with Symantec and Kaspersky, and does a performance shoot-out: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2379page=2 Warm regards, Stu From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec Corporate. I have all settings set to low resource utilization yet the real-time virus scan is almost always number one in resource utilization. So I'm looking into VIPRE. Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/7/2008 11:42 AM From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org http://www.aspca.org/ Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt http://www.sunbelt/ -software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt http://www.sunbelt/ -software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. . . -- The pages accompanying this email transmission contain information from MJMC, Inc., which is confidential and/or privileged. The information is to be for the use of the individual or entity named on this cover sheet. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone so that we can arrange for the retrieval of the original document. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review
In Kaspersky you can choose whether to install the FW portion. I'm hoping that would be an option with Vipre as well, since I wouldn't install it on HQ computers behind all the firewalls but I would on a road warriors laptop. All manageable from the same dashboard. In an ideal world, that's what you would want, imho. Jason From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Man, everytime I see an AV solution try to do it all, it turns into a big pile of poo. Don't go Norton 360 on us, please! I am very happy without Firewall protection in my AV. From: Jason Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Does anybody know when there will be a firewall product included in Vipre? I like the AV but we're looking to scrape out PCCillin too, not just our Trend. Jason From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 5:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review We are working on some in-house comparisons very similar to the ones done in reviews That one will have McCrappy included !!;-D Stu From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Thanks for thus Stu! Do you know of anything comparing it to McAfee? I am evaluating McAfee Endpoint Security (full disk encryption) and since we already have McAfee Enterprise it will be tougher to moving away from McAfee since the same console that handles McAfee AV (McAfee ePO) also manages their enterprise encryption tool... Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Tom, In that case read this new review at ZDNet. It compares VIPRE with Symantec and Kaspersky, and does a performance shoot-out: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2379page=2 Warm regards, Stu From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec Corporate. I have all settings set to low resource utilization yet the real-time virus scan is almost always number one in resource utilization. So I'm looking into VIPRE. Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/7/2008 11:42 AM From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org http://www.aspca.org/ Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt http://www.sunbelt/ -software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt http://www.sunbelt/ -software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you
RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review
Yes, we are working on this full blast now. Since we already have working firewall code that runs on hundreds of thousands of systems, this is only a code integration issue, not new development. Having said that, it will still be months away. Warm regards, Stu From: Jason Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Does anybody know when there will be a firewall product included in Vipre? I like the AV but we're looking to scrape out PCCillin too, not just our Trend. Jason From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 5:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review We are working on some in-house comparisons very similar to the ones done in reviews That one will have McCrappy included !!;-D Stu From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Thanks for thus Stu! Do you know of anything comparing it to McAfee? I am evaluating McAfee Endpoint Security (full disk encryption) and since we already have McAfee Enterprise it will be tougher to moving away from McAfee since the same console that handles McAfee AV (McAfee ePO) also manages their enterprise encryption tool... Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Tom, In that case read this new review at ZDNet. It compares VIPRE with Symantec and Kaspersky, and does a performance shoot-out: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2379page=2 Warm regards, Stu From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec Corporate. I have all settings set to low resource utilization yet the real-time virus scan is almost always number one in resource utilization. So I'm looking into VIPRE. Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/7/2008 11:42 AM From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org http://www.aspca.org/ Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt http://www.sunbelt/ -software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt http://www.sunbelt/ -software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. . . -- The pages accompanying this email transmission contain information from MJMC, Inc., which is confidential and/or privileged. The information
RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review
Thanks for thus Stu! Do you know of anything comparing it to McAfee? I am evaluating McAfee Endpoint Security (full disk encryption) and since we already have McAfee Enterprise it will be tougher to moving away from McAfee since the same console that handles McAfee AV (McAfee ePO) also manages their enterprise encryption tool... Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Tom, In that case read this new review at ZDNet. It compares VIPRE with Symantec and Kaspersky, and does a performance shoot-out: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2379page=2 Warm regards, Stu From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec Corporate. I have all settings set to low resource utilization yet the real-time virus scan is almost always number one in resource utilization. So I'm looking into VIPRE. Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/7/2008 11:42 AM From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.orghttp://www.aspca.org/ Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelthttp://www.sunbelt/-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelthttp://www.sunbelt/-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
R: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review
If they don't compare their product with SEP 11... It is not the same as NAV2008!! GuidoElia HELPPC _ Da: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: lunedì 11 agosto 2008 14.56 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Thanks for thus Stu! Do you know of anything comparing it to McAfee? I am evaluating McAfee Endpoint Security (full disk encryption) and since we already have McAfee Enterprise it will be tougher to moving away from McAfee since the same console that handles McAfee AV (McAfee ePO) also manages their enterprise encryption tool... Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Tom, In that case read this new review at ZDNet. It compares VIPRE with Symantec and Kaspersky, and does a performance shoot-out: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2379 http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2379page=2 page=2 Warm regards, Stu _ From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec Corporate. I have all settings set to low resource utilization yet the real-time virus scan is almost always number one in resource utilization. So I'm looking into VIPRE. Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/7/2008 11:42 AM From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org http://www.aspca.org/ Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt http://www.sunbelt/ -software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt http://www.sunbelt/ -software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Vipre does not have all the stuff that SEP has! Norton or the equivalent in the Corporate line uses the same engine and setup. It is a very fair comparison. Jon On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:13 PM, HELP_PC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they don't compare their product with SEP 11... It is not the same as NAV2008!! *GuidoElia* *HELPPC* -- *Da:* David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Inviato:* lunedì 11 agosto 2008 14.56 *A:* NT System Admin Issues *Oggetto:* RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Thanks for thus Stu! Do you know of anything comparing it to McAfee? I am evaluating McAfee Endpoint Security (full disk encryption) and since we already have McAfee Enterprise it will be tougher to moving away from McAfee since the same console that handles McAfee AV (McAfee ePO) also manages their enterprise encryption tool… *Dave Lum* - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 *..*remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside*** - JFK*** *From:* Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:08 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Tom, In that case read this new review at ZDNet. It compares VIPRE with Symantec and Kaspersky, and does a performance shoot-out: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2379page=2 Warm regards, Stu -- *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:46 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec Corporate. I have all settings set to low resource utilization yet the real-time virus scan is almost always number one in resource utilization. So I'm looking into VIPRE. Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/7/2008 11:42 AM From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review
We are working on some in-house comparisons very similar to the ones done in reviews That one will have McCrappy included !!;-D Stu From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Thanks for thus Stu! Do you know of anything comparing it to McAfee? I am evaluating McAfee Endpoint Security (full disk encryption) and since we already have McAfee Enterprise it will be tougher to moving away from McAfee since the same console that handles McAfee AV (McAfee ePO) also manages their enterprise encryption tool... Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV - read this new VIPRE review Tom, In that case read this new review at ZDNet. It compares VIPRE with Symantec and Kaspersky, and does a performance shoot-out: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2379page=2 Warm regards, Stu From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec Corporate. I have all settings set to low resource utilization yet the real-time virus scan is almost always number one in resource utilization. So I'm looking into VIPRE. Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/7/2008 11:42 AM From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org http://www.aspca.org/ Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt http://www.sunbelt/ -software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt http://www.sunbelt/ -software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. . .. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Evaluating AV
All systems are Dell Optiplex (from old GX240's to current 755's). BIOS is set to wake the systems weekdays at 5:00am. For on the fly system wakeup I have wake-on-LAN enabled also use WOL.EXE (easily Google'd) and a batch file with the MAC's pulled from a DHCP export. The BIOS part could be negated by having a server fire up a batch file running WOL.EXE and every MAC address. Funniest thing was when I FIRST implemented it the users thought it was disconcerting to come in and have their PC on. Now I get a helpdesk call if they get a new PC that isn't powered on when they get in :-). Dave -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV What do you use to remotely and automatically start up your client machines? Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV Some things don't take effect until the machine is restarted...so why not a virus? I have some systems configured to run a full scan - every file type, everywhere, incl. recycle bin and .zip files many levels deep - upon startup. However, these same systems power themselves up at 5:00am and the users don't get in until 8:00am or later. By then the system has completely scanned itself and applied any Windows Updates and rebooted. Does it do any good? Dunno, but I feel better knowing every nook and cranny has been searched... Maintenance off-hours is a beautiful thing! -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV I always wonder about start up scans...if the pc doesn't have a virus when it is shut down, then why enable start up scans. Waste of time if you ask me S -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec v.10. Every morning when the startup scan kicks off, my users machines bog down tremendously, for 30-45 minutes, until that darn scan is completed. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 5:54 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 5:54 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja
RE: Evaluating AV
rootkit-enabled threats will hide from several Windows API functions Fwiw, that's why we have a boot-time scanner that a) only scans if a threat is detected (not everytime you boot system) and b) runs prior to the Windows APIs. Alex -Original Message- From: Peter van Houten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV Boot scans are *mostly* a waste of time as modern malware in the form of rootkit-enabled threats will hide from several Windows API functions, rendering signature-searching scans useless. So, unless your A/V has its own fast disk reading routines, you have a problem. It also gets worse: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/145703/hackers_find_a_new_ place_to_hide_rootkits.html In case of wrapping: http://tinyurl.com/4vfsce I still recommend NOD32 products for pre-infection detection and protection. On the 07/08/2008 17:45, Joe Heaton wrote the following: Unlike Symantec v.10. Every morning when the startup scan kicks off, my users machines bog down tremendously, for 30-45 minutes, until that darn scan is completed. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Evaluating AV
Very interesting, and something I may look into. Thanks for the info :) Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 6:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV All systems are Dell Optiplex (from old GX240's to current 755's). BIOS is set to wake the systems weekdays at 5:00am. For on the fly system wakeup I have wake-on-LAN enabled also use WOL.EXE (easily Google'd) and a batch file with the MAC's pulled from a DHCP export. The BIOS part could be negated by having a server fire up a batch file running WOL.EXE and every MAC address. Funniest thing was when I FIRST implemented it the users thought it was disconcerting to come in and have their PC on. Now I get a helpdesk call if they get a new PC that isn't powered on when they get in :-). Dave -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV What do you use to remotely and automatically start up your client machines? Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV Some things don't take effect until the machine is restarted...so why not a virus? I have some systems configured to run a full scan - every file type, everywhere, incl. recycle bin and .zip files many levels deep - upon startup. However, these same systems power themselves up at 5:00am and the users don't get in until 8:00am or later. By then the system has completely scanned itself and applied any Windows Updates and rebooted. Does it do any good? Dunno, but I feel better knowing every nook and cranny has been searched... Maintenance off-hours is a beautiful thing! -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV I always wonder about start up scans...if the pc doesn't have a virus when it is shut down, then why enable start up scans. Waste of time if you ask me S -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec v.10. Every morning when the startup scan kicks off, my users machines bog down tremendously, for 30-45 minutes, until that darn scan is completed. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 5:54 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com
Re: Evaluating AV
Plus knowing that the folks at Sunbelt stand close behind any product they sell makes me lean toward Vipre. I know at the moment I have still not moved from the 1.0 NOD32 console to the 2.0 console because the documentation is so horrible. I am still not confortable with it. I know it works but they recently had a bad defination get through that caused all kinds of issues in my network. No one is perfect and that was their first one in many years to be honest. I know when it is time for renewal if I don't see a lot of issues on their forum I will be moving over if the price is right. I know from my use of CounterSpy that the interface is easy and just works which is all I need. Jon On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Evaluating AV
From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Evaluating AV
Unlike Symantec v.10. Every morning when the startup scan kicks off, my users machines bog down tremendously, for 30-45 minutes, until that darn scan is completed. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 5:54 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Evaluating AV
Unlike Symantec Corporate. I have all settings set to low resource utilization yet the real-time virus scan is almost always number one in resource utilization. So I'm looking into VIPRE. Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/7/2008 11:42 AM From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org ( http://www.aspca.org/ ) Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt ( http://www.sunbelt/ )-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt ( http://www.sunbelt/ )-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Evaluating AV
Startup scans are murder with any product. Just plain mean to your workers. I always try to stay away from them... -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec v.10. Every morning when the startup scan kicks off, my users machines bog down tremendously, for 30-45 minutes, until that darn scan is completed. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 5:54 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Evaluating AV
Boot scans are *mostly* a waste of time as modern malware in the form of rootkit-enabled threats will hide from several Windows API functions, rendering signature-searching scans useless. So, unless your A/V has its own fast disk reading routines, you have a problem. It also gets worse: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/145703/hackers_find_a_new_place_to_hide_rootkits.html In case of wrapping: http://tinyurl.com/4vfsce I still recommend NOD32 products for pre-infection detection and protection. On the 07/08/2008 17:45, Joe Heaton wrote the following: Unlike Symantec v.10. Every morning when the startup scan kicks off, my users machines bog down tremendously, for 30-45 minutes, until that darn scan is completed. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Evaluating AV
I always wonder about start up scans...if the pc doesn't have a virus when it is shut down, then why enable start up scans. Waste of time if you ask me S -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec v.10. Every morning when the startup scan kicks off, my users machines bog down tremendously, for 30-45 minutes, until that darn scan is completed. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 5:54 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Evaluating AV
exactly, that what real-time protection is for. Let users workers actually get some work done. -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV I always wonder about start up scans...if the pc doesn't have a virus when it is shut down, then why enable start up scans. Waste of time if you ask me S -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec v.10. Every morning when the startup scan kicks off, my users machines bog down tremendously, for 30-45 minutes, until that darn scan is completed. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 5:54 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Evaluating AV
Some things don't take effect until the machine is restarted...so why not a virus? I have some systems configured to run a full scan - every file type, everywhere, incl. recycle bin and .zip files many levels deep - upon startup. However, these same systems power themselves up at 5:00am and the users don't get in until 8:00am or later. By then the system has completely scanned itself and applied any Windows Updates and rebooted. Does it do any good? Dunno, but I feel better knowing every nook and cranny has been searched... Maintenance off-hours is a beautiful thing! -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV I always wonder about start up scans...if the pc doesn't have a virus when it is shut down, then why enable start up scans. Waste of time if you ask me S -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec v.10. Every morning when the startup scan kicks off, my users machines bog down tremendously, for 30-45 minutes, until that darn scan is completed. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 5:54 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Evaluating AV
What do you use to remotely and automatically start up your client machines? Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV Some things don't take effect until the machine is restarted...so why not a virus? I have some systems configured to run a full scan - every file type, everywhere, incl. recycle bin and .zip files many levels deep - upon startup. However, these same systems power themselves up at 5:00am and the users don't get in until 8:00am or later. By then the system has completely scanned itself and applied any Windows Updates and rebooted. Does it do any good? Dunno, but I feel better knowing every nook and cranny has been searched... Maintenance off-hours is a beautiful thing! -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV I always wonder about start up scans...if the pc doesn't have a virus when it is shut down, then why enable start up scans. Waste of time if you ask me S -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec v.10. Every morning when the startup scan kicks off, my users machines bog down tremendously, for 30-45 minutes, until that darn scan is completed. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 5:54 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 5:54 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Evaluating AV
Damn you and your desktops ;) -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV Some things don't take effect until the machine is restarted...so why not a virus? I have some systems configured to run a full scan - every file type, everywhere, incl. recycle bin and .zip files many levels deep - upon startup. However, these same systems power themselves up at 5:00am and the users don't get in until 8:00am or later. By then the system has completely scanned itself and applied any Windows Updates and rebooted. Does it do any good? Dunno, but I feel better knowing every nook and cranny has been searched... Maintenance off-hours is a beautiful thing! -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV I always wonder about start up scans...if the pc doesn't have a virus when it is shut down, then why enable start up scans. Waste of time if you ask me S -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec v.10. Every morning when the startup scan kicks off, my users machines bog down tremendously, for 30-45 minutes, until that darn scan is completed. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 5:54 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Evaluating AV
Shook likes searching nooks and crannys:) -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV Some things don't take effect until the machine is restarted...so why not a virus? I have some systems configured to run a full scan - every file type, everywhere, incl. recycle bin and .zip files many levels deep - upon startup. However, these same systems power themselves up at 5:00am and the users don't get in until 8:00am or later. By then the system has completely scanned itself and applied any Windows Updates and rebooted. Does it do any good? Dunno, but I feel better knowing every nook and cranny has been searched... Maintenance off-hours is a beautiful thing! -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV I always wonder about start up scans...if the pc doesn't have a virus when it is shut down, then why enable start up scans. Waste of time if you ask me S -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV Unlike Symantec v.10. Every morning when the startup scan kicks off, my users machines bog down tremendously, for 30-45 minutes, until that darn scan is completed. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV From my observations as a NOD32 user: Like many modern applications, NOD32 will use all available resources if/when it needs to - without interfering with other applications. The system does not get pegged or become unresponsive. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 5:54 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Evaluating AV
Is SEP really that much different? Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: R: Evaluating AV And evaluating VIPRE vs. Norton and not SEP is not fair GuidoElia HELPPC -Messaggio originale- Da: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: martedì 5 agosto 2008 16.38 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Evaluating AV Stu, That link is really cool, but what would have been better is if that info came from a third party tester, instead of your internal tests. You know what they say, Well of course their internal tests came out like that, they want you to buy it. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV I would have a very thorough look at resource consumption. Here is a chart we made recently you can use as a starting point: http://www.vipreenterprise.com/Why-VIPRE-Enterprise/VIPRE-Stats.htm Warm regards, Stu From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Evaluating AV I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back-o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK .. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: 8/4/2008 8:09 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1595 - Release Date: 8/6/2008 8:23 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
R: Evaluating AV
IMO a lot and on real time protection is now one of the lightest GuidoElia HELPPC -Messaggio originale- Da: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: mercoledì 6 agosto 2008 16.39 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Evaluating AV Is SEP really that much different? Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: R: Evaluating AV And evaluating VIPRE vs. Norton and not SEP is not fair GuidoElia HELPPC -Messaggio originale- Da: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: martedì 5 agosto 2008 16.38 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: RE: Evaluating AV Stu, That link is really cool, but what would have been better is if that info came from a third party tester, instead of your internal tests. You know what they say, Well of course their internal tests came out like that, they want you to buy it. Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Evaluating AV I would have a very thorough look at resource consumption. Here is a chart we made recently you can use as a starting point: http://www.vipreenterprise.com/Why-VIPRE-Enterprise/VIPRE-Stats.htm Warm regards, Stu From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Evaluating AV I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back-o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK .. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: 8/4/2008 8:09 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1595 - Release Date: 8/6/2008 8:23 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Evaluating AV
If the Sunbelt ests are accurate, NOD32 takes clowe to 100% CPU during scans - worthless in a 7*24 site! -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Matt Plahtinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 03:56:19 PM: What are people recommending as their favorite AV now days? 6 months ago NOD32 seemed to be all the rage, now you don't hear much about them. Did version 3 make their stock go down? Our AV is coming up for renewal so I'm also going to be testing out a few different vendors. VIPRE along with NOD32 and Kaspersky will be on my list. Matt On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back- o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Evaluating AV
I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back-o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Evaluating AV
Which client-side A/V will check an incoming message (esp the attachment) as soon as it is received vs waiting until the user attempts to open the message (or attachment) before checking it ? From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Evaluating AV I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back-o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Evaluating AV
I would have a very thorough look at resource consumption. Here is a chart we made recently you can use as a starting point: http://www.vipreenterprise.com/Why-VIPRE-Enterprise/VIPRE-Stats.htm Warm regards, Stu From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Evaluating AV I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back-o-back comparisons? Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 ..remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside - JFK .. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Evaluating AV
Could someone give me the address to the forum where I can change the frequency of these emails? Thanks, Dan On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Stu Sjouwerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I would have a very thorough look at resource consumption. Here is a chart we made recently you can use as a starting point: http://www.vipreenterprise.com/Why-VIPRE-Enterprise/VIPRE-Stats.htm Warm regards, Stu -- *From:* David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, August 04, 2008 3:52 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Evaluating AV I am evaluating some AV products but really don't have much other than loading the admin console, pushing the client and looking at options. Does anyone have ideas for me to do some semi-useful back-o-back comparisons? *Dave Lum* - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 *..*remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside*** - JFK*** . ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Evaluating AV
Same http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com place you signed up http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Click Communities or choose Lyris Listmanager from the Communities drop-down menu My Forums Click a forum Click My Account Change membership type Carl From: Dan Neubacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Evaluating AV Could someone give me the address to the forum where I can change the frequency of these emails? Thanks, Dan ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~