Re: Desktop Backup Con't

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Perl can do this with the proper Win32 modules.  It can detect
file/directory changes without doing a scheduled scan.


On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop
 backup.

 His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup application
 will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared storage. I
 know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in desktop.

 Does anyone knows of any application can do this?

 Thanks.

 Best Regards,

 Wei Yu

 
 Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes?
 Yahoo! Movies is all you need




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RE: Desktop Backup Con't

[Tim Evans]

What would the proper Win32 modules be?


...Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:31 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't
 
 Perl can do this with the proper Win32 modules.  It can detect
 file/directory changes without doing a scheduled scan.
 
 
 On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the
 desktop
  backup.
 
  His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup
 application
  will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared
 storage. I
  know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in
desktop.
 
  Does anyone knows of any application can do this?
 
  Thanks.
 
  Best Regards,
 
  Wei Yu
 
  
  Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes?
  Yahoo! Movies is all you need
 
 
 
 
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Re: Desktop Backup Con't

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Dammit - I knew while I was typing that I was gonna have to answer
that question.  And its a good question too.   But I dont remember the
answer off-hand.  :-/

But we (my Perl developer) did create a very similar routine in Perl a
few years back for a custom file-transfer back-end for an FTP site at
a previous employer.

Amusingly it was a couple of years before I became actively interested
in Perl myself - so I didnt pay much attention to the details at the
time.

I'll see if I cant dig something up.


On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What would the proper Win32 modules be?


 ...Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:31 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't

 Perl can do this with the proper Win32 modules.  It can detect
 file/directory changes without doing a scheduled scan.


 On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the
 desktop
  backup.
 
  His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup
 application
  will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared
 storage. I
  know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in
 desktop.
 
  Does anyone knows of any application can do this?
 
  Thanks.
 
  Best Regards,
 
  Wei Yu
 
  
  Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes?
  Yahoo! Movies is all you need
 



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RE: Desktop Backup Con't

[Tim Evans]

Well I'm just starting to play with perl myself, and that seems like it
could be an interesting project to play with.


...Tim


 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:38 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't
 
 Dammit - I knew while I was typing that I was gonna have to answer
 that question.  And its a good question too.   But I dont remember the
 answer off-hand.  :-/
 
 But we (my Perl developer) did create a very similar routine in Perl a
 few years back for a custom file-transfer back-end for an FTP site at
 a previous employer.
 
 Amusingly it was a couple of years before I became actively interested
 in Perl myself - so I didnt pay much attention to the details at the
 time.
 
 I'll see if I cant dig something up.
 
 
 On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What would the proper Win32 modules be?
 
 
  ...Tim
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:31 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't
 
  Perl can do this with the proper Win32 modules.  It can detect
  file/directory changes without doing a scheduled scan.
 
 
  On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   Hi All,
  
   I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the
  desktop
   backup.
  
   His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup
  application
   will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared
  storage. I
   know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in
  desktop.
  
   Does anyone knows of any application can do this?
  
   Thanks.
  
   Best Regards,
  
   Wei Yu
  
   
   Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes?
   Yahoo! Movies is all you need
  
 
 
 
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Re: Desktop Backup Con't

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I'm still looking back at my notes.

A basic search via Google shows a few different modules that match the
search perl module detect file changes, but I am still trying to
find information on the module that I/we specifically used.


On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well I'm just starting to play with perl myself, and that seems like it
 could be an interesting project to play with.


 ...Tim


 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:38 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't

 Dammit - I knew while I was typing that I was gonna have to answer
 that question.  And its a good question too.   But I dont remember the
 answer off-hand.  :-/

 But we (my Perl developer) did create a very similar routine in Perl a
 few years back for a custom file-transfer back-end for an FTP site at
 a previous employer.

 Amusingly it was a couple of years before I became actively interested
 in Perl myself - so I didnt pay much attention to the details at the
 time.

 I'll see if I cant dig something up.


 On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What would the proper Win32 modules be?
 
 
  ...Tim
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:31 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't
 
  Perl can do this with the proper Win32 modules.  It can detect
  file/directory changes without doing a scheduled scan.
 
 
  On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   Hi All,
  
   I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the
  desktop
   backup.
  
   His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup
  application
   will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared
  storage. I
   know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in
  desktop.
  
   Does anyone knows of any application can do this?
  
   Thanks.
  
   Best Regards,
  
   Wei Yu
  
   
   Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes?
   Yahoo! Movies is all you need
  
 
 
 
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RE: Desktop Backup Con't

[Michael B. Smith]

It's going to have to be something that registers the NT FileChanged event.
If that helps.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't

I'm still looking back at my notes.

A basic search via Google shows a few different modules that match the
search perl module detect file changes, but I am still trying to
find information on the module that I/we specifically used.


On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well I'm just starting to play with perl myself, and that seems like it
 could be an interesting project to play with.


 ...Tim


 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:38 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't

 Dammit - I knew while I was typing that I was gonna have to answer
 that question.  And its a good question too.   But I dont remember the
 answer off-hand.  :-/

 But we (my Perl developer) did create a very similar routine in Perl a
 few years back for a custom file-transfer back-end for an FTP site at
 a previous employer.

 Amusingly it was a couple of years before I became actively interested
 in Perl myself - so I didnt pay much attention to the details at the
 time.

 I'll see if I cant dig something up.


 On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What would the proper Win32 modules be?
 
 
  ...Tim
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:31 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't
 
  Perl can do this with the proper Win32 modules.  It can detect
  file/directory changes without doing a scheduled scan.
 
 
  On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   Hi All,
  
   I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the
  desktop
   backup.
  
   His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup
  application
   will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared
  storage. I
   know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in
  desktop.
  
   Does anyone knows of any application can do this?
  
   Thanks.
  
   Best Regards,
  
   Wei Yu
  
   
   Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes?
   Yahoo! Movies is all you need
  
 
 
 
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Re: Desktop Backup Con't

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Thanks - it probably will!

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Michael B. Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's going to have to be something that registers the NT FileChanged event.
 If that helps.

 Regards,

 Michael B. Smith
 MCSE/Exchange MVP
 http://TheEssentialExchange.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:30 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't

 I'm still looking back at my notes.

 A basic search via Google shows a few different modules that match the
 search perl module detect file changes, but I am still trying to
 find information on the module that I/we specifically used.


 On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well I'm just starting to play with perl myself, and that seems like it
 could be an interesting project to play with.


 ...Tim


 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:38 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't

 Dammit - I knew while I was typing that I was gonna have to answer
 that question.  And its a good question too.   But I dont remember the
 answer off-hand.  :-/

 But we (my Perl developer) did create a very similar routine in Perl a
 few years back for a custom file-transfer back-end for an FTP site at
 a previous employer.

 Amusingly it was a couple of years before I became actively interested
 in Perl myself - so I didnt pay much attention to the details at the
 time.

 I'll see if I cant dig something up.


 On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What would the proper Win32 modules be?
 
 
  ...Tim
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:31 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't
 
  Perl can do this with the proper Win32 modules.  It can detect
  file/directory changes without doing a scheduled scan.
 
 
  On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   Hi All,
  
   I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the
  desktop
   backup.
  
   His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup
  application
   will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared
  storage. I
   know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in
  desktop.
  
   Does anyone knows of any application can do this?
  
   Thanks.
  
   Best Regards,
  
   Wei Yu
  
   
   Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes?
   Yahoo! Movies is all you need
  
 
 
 
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RE: Desktop Backup Con't

[Andy Shook]

Xcopy?

 

Shook



From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Desktop Backup Con't

 

Hi All,

I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop
backup. 

His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup
application will detect the change and will replicate the file to the
shared storage. I know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of
it in desktop.

Does anyone knows of any application can do this?

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Wei Yu

 



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Yahoo! Movies
http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/movies/*http:/sg.movies.yahoo.com/Showtimes/cine
mas/  is all you need

 

 

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RE: Desktop Backup Con't

[Michael B. Smith]

Or robocopy, to do it on the cheap.

 

DPM can do this, as can NetBackup. I'm sure that CommVault would have an
entry in this space too. Check out the usual suspects.

 

For that matter, offline files.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

 

Xcopy?

 

Shook

  _  

From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Desktop Backup Con't

 

Hi All,

I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop
backup. 

His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup application
will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared storage. I
know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in desktop.

Does anyone knows of any application can do this?

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Wei Yu

 

  _  

Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes? 
Yahoo!
http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/movies/*http:/sg.movies.yahoo.com/Showtimes/cinemas/
  Movies is all you need

 

 

 

 

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RE: Desktop Backup Con't

[Kennedy, Jim]

That was what I was thinking...something along the lines of robocopy running as 
a startup task?



From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

Xcopy?

Shook

From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Desktop Backup Con't

Hi All,

I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop backup.

His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup application will 
detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared storage. I know 
this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in desktop.

Does anyone knows of any application can do this?

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Wei Yu


Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes?
Yahoo! 
Movieshttp://sg.rd.yahoo.com/movies/*http:/sg.movies.yahoo.com/Showtimes/cinemas/
 is all you need







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RE: Desktop Backup Con't

[Peter Schwarz]

I have been using ViceVersa Pro at a number of client sites and they love it: 
http://www.tgrmn.com/ http://www.tgrmn.com/ 

 

Costs money, though, but it is a million times better than that Windows 
“feature” called Offline Folders.

 

Peter

 

From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Desktop Backup Con't

 

Hi All,

I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop backup. 

His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup application will 
detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared storage. I know 
this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in desktop.

Does anyone knows of any application can do this?

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Wei Yu

 



Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes? 
Yahoo! Movies 
http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/movies/*http:/sg.movies.yahoo.com/Showtimes/cinemas/  
is all you need

 

 

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RE: Desktop Backup Con't

[lists]

Robocopy and an AT command running the script every 10 minutes or so.

 



From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

 

That was what I was thinking...something along the lines of robocopy
running as a startup task?

 

 

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

 

Xcopy?

 

Shook



From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Desktop Backup Con't

 

Hi All,

I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop
backup. 

His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup
application will detect the change and will replicate the file to the
shared storage. I know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of
it in desktop.

Does anyone knows of any application can do this?

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Wei Yu

 



Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes? 
Yahoo! Movies
http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/movies/*http:/sg.movies.yahoo.com/Showtimes/cine
mas/  is all you need

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Desktop Backup Con't

[Lee Douglas]

SecondCopy - assuming you can map the drive. Inexpensive and bulletproof.
Tech support is superb, BTW.

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi All,

 I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop
 backup.

 His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup application
 will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared storage. I
 know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in desktop.

 Does anyone knows of any application can do this?

 Thanks.

 Best Regards,

 Wei Yu

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  all you need



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RE: Desktop Backup Con't

[Andy Ognenoff]

That sounds like a job for the new breed of Continuous Data Protection
devices/software. SonicWall’s got an appliance and EMC/Retrospect just
released their add-on module yesterday for the SMB crowd.

http://www.emcinsignia.com/products/smb/retroforwin/addons/

 - Andy O. 

From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Desktop Backup Con't

Hi All,

I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop
backup. 

His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup application
will detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared storage. I
know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in desktop.

Does anyone knows of any application can do this?

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Wei Yu


Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes? 
Yahoo! Movies is all you need




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RE: Desktop Backup Con't

[Sam Cayze]

Nobody really mentioned the requirement or 'detecting changes'...

SyncBack SE can do this that.  Detect changes, and run a Sync/Backup
job.  Or really anything else for that matter...

 

For $30, it's the most versatile and handy program I have ever used.  I
use for about 150 different backup jobs, including all my desktops and
laptops.   

 

I've plugged it on this list many times, but there is not an affiliation
:)

 

From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
lists
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

 

Robocopy and an AT command running the script every 10 minutes or so.

 



From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

 

That was what I was thinking...something along the lines of robocopy
running as a startup task?

 

 

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

 

Xcopy?

 

Shook



From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Desktop Backup Con't

 

Hi All,

I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop
backup. 

His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup
application will detect the change and will replicate the file to the
shared storage. I know this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of
it in desktop.

Does anyone knows of any application can do this?

Thanks.

Best Regards,

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RE: Desktop Backup Con't

[Kennedy, Jim]

Not knocking you or your suggestion...just pointing out that we did cover 
changes with robocopy. We just didn't mention it specifically.   /mon and it 
watches for changes...there are a lot of switch options in robocopy to 
cover the scenario.



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

Nobody really mentioned the requirement or 'detecting changes'...
SyncBack SE can do this that.  Detect changes, and run a Sync/Backup job.  Or 
really anything else for that matter...

For $30, it's the most versatile and handy program I have ever used.  I use for 
about 150 different backup jobs, including all my desktops and laptops.

I've plugged it on this list many times, but there is not an affiliation :)

From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lists
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

Robocopy and an AT command running the script every 10 minutes or so.


From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

That was what I was thinking...something along the lines of robocopy running as 
a startup task?



From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

Xcopy?

Shook

From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Desktop Backup Con't

Hi All,

I have met up with the client today with the requirement on the desktop backup.

His requirement is once the file has been saved, the backup application will 
detect the change and will replicate the file to the shared storage. I know 
this can be done on SAN but I have never heard of it in desktop.

Does anyone knows of any application can do this?

Thanks.

Best Regards,

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RE: Desktop Backup Con't

[Andy Ognenoff]

My suggestion detects changes...albeit, not for $30. :) I love SyncBack for
that.

But I suppose if you go back to his original requirement of running this on
1000 workstations, a CDP solution might make sense.

 - Andy O. 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

Nobody really mentioned the requirement or ‘detecting changes’...
SyncBack SE can do this that.  Detect changes, and run a Sync/Backup job. 
Or really anything else for that matter...

For $30, it’s the most versatile and handy program I have ever used.  I use
for about 150 different backup jobs, including all my desktops and
laptops.   

I’ve plugged it on this list many times, but there is not an affiliation :)


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RE: Desktop Backup Con't

[Sam Cayze]

Good points Andy and Jim, thanks!  

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

My suggestion detects changes...albeit, not for $30. :) I love SyncBack for
that.

But I suppose if you go back to his original requirement of running this on
1000 workstations, a CDP solution might make sense.

 - Andy O. 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

Nobody really mentioned the requirement or 'detecting changes'...
SyncBack SE can do this that.  Detect changes, and run a Sync/Backup job. 
Or really anything else for that matter...

For $30, it's the most versatile and handy program I have ever used.  I use
for about 150 different backup jobs, including all my desktops and
laptops.   

I've plugged it on this list many times, but there is not an affiliation :)


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Re: Desktop Backup Con't

[Active Elk]

Thanks for all the suggestions. I forgot to mention, the client want the 
changes to be sync immediately and not wait for the next scheduled. I have 
tried telling him to use offline folders or VSS but seems like he is not 
interested. He wanted a solution from some branded company like Symantec, CA 
etc.

The main issue is his request of sync immediately to the shared storage which 
I find it difficult to achieve.

Thanks.

- Original Message 
From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 11:57:10
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

Good points Andy and Jim, thanks!  

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

My suggestion detects changes...albeit, not for $30. :) I love SyncBack for
that.

But I suppose if you go back to his original requirement of running this on
1000 workstations, a CDP solution might make sense.

 - Andy O. 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

Nobody really mentioned the requirement or 'detecting changes'...
SyncBack SE can do this that.  Detect changes, and run a Sync/Backup job. 
Or really anything else for that matter...

For $30, it's the most versatile and handy program I have ever used.  I use
for about 150 different backup jobs, including all my desktops and
laptops.   

I've plugged it on this list many times, but there is not an affiliation :)


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Re: Desktop Backup Con't

[Tigran K]

How about a windows service that watches the folder and syncs as soon
as there are changes?
That can be done in a few minutes.

--Tigran


On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for all the suggestions. I forgot to mention, the client want the 
 changes to be sync immediately and not wait for the next scheduled. I have 
 tried telling him to use offline folders or VSS but seems like he is not 
 interested. He wanted a solution from some branded company like Symantec, CA 
 etc.

  The main issue is his request of sync immediately to the shared storage 
 which I find it difficult to achieve.

  Thanks.


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Re: Desktop Backup Con't

[Tigran K]

I didn't know robocopy had a /mon switch. That's pretty cool.

--Tigran

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't many of the services suggestioned do this that?  Like I said,
  SyncBack will do just that, and other's mentioned similar products as
  well.  (Robocopy with the /mon switch)


  -Original Message-
  From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:43 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't

  Thanks for all the suggestions. I forgot to mention, the client want the
  changes to be sync immediately and not wait for the next scheduled. I
  have tried telling him to use offline folders or VSS but seems like he
  is not interested. He wanted a solution from some branded company like
  Symantec, CA etc.

  The main issue is his request of sync immediately to the shared
  storage which I find it difficult to achieve.

  Thanks.



 - Original Message 
  From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 11:57:10
  Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

  Good points Andy and Jim, thanks!

  -Original Message-
  From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:43 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

  My suggestion detects changes...albeit, not for $30. :) I love SyncBack
  for that.

  But I suppose if you go back to his original requirement of running this
  on 1000 workstations, a CDP solution might make sense.

   - Andy O.
  
  From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:33 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

  Nobody really mentioned the requirement or 'detecting changes'...
  SyncBack SE can do this that.  Detect changes, and run a Sync/Backup
  job.
  Or really anything else for that matter...

  For $30, it's the most versatile and handy program I have ever used.  I
  use for about 150 different backup jobs, including all my desktops and
  laptops.

  I've plugged it on this list many times, but there is not an affiliation
  :)



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RE: Desktop Backup Con't

[Ken Schaefer]

Better would be a service that registers for file change notifications (so you 
don't have continuous monitoring activity) and then copies the data elsewhere.

More sophisticated (but requiring a far degree of skill) would be to create a 
file system filter that did the operation transparently as the file was being 
written to disk.

Cheers
Ken

 -Original Message-
 From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 9:54 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

 Don't many of the services suggestioned do this that?  Like I said,
 SyncBack will do just that, and other's mentioned similar products as
 well.  (Robocopy with the /mon switch)

 -Original Message-
 From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:43 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Desktop Backup Con't

 Thanks for all the suggestions. I forgot to mention, the client want
 the
 changes to be sync immediately and not wait for the next scheduled. I
 have tried telling him to use offline folders or VSS but seems like he
 is not interested. He wanted a solution from some branded company like
 Symantec, CA etc.

 The main issue is his request of sync immediately to the shared
 storage which I find it difficult to achieve.

 Thanks.

 - Original Message 
 From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 11:57:10
 Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

 Good points Andy and Jim, thanks!

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:43 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Desktop Backup Con't

 My suggestion detects changes...albeit, not for $30. :) I love SyncBack
 for that.

 But I suppose if you go back to his original requirement of running
 this
 on 1000 workstations, a CDP solution might make sense.

  - Andy O.


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Re: Desktop Backup Con't

[Rubens Almeida]

One of our major clients use Connected from IronMountain. They have
users all over the world and it have worked pretty well so far.
Regards,

Rubens

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Re: Desktop Backup

[Jon Harris]

On the Desktops if the OS is Vista there is a way to schedule backups to a
network share.  I have been setting it up after a Director lost all of his
email and contact information to a system board and hard drive failures.
For those that start yelling about why the contacts and mail was not on the
Exchange server we are just now getting Exchange we were running one of the
Linux mail servers and we had to do POP.  Going forward at this point his
contacts as well as the other Directors will have contacts on the Exchange
server and if they want they can pull a copy for their PST later.

Jon

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Personally I think it is an overkill backing up everything. What is it
 that the client want to accomplish? We are talking about 1000 machines with
 an average of 3-5GB disk space requirement min. What about the employee who
 loaded 5 GB of music files to his My Documents folder? Now you have
 illegal copy of music files on your network. Does the client want to back
 those up? Too much resources are required to accomplish a task that I think
 it is not necessary or practical.

 Workstations=Use one single ghost image for identical machines. Same for
 laptops. If the client runs Vista then you don't even need that many images.
 Perhaps one for workstations and one for laptops.

 Enable Shadow Copy on file servers and redirect My Documents folder to
 the network with GPO. Someone deleted a file it takes a few seconds to
 restore it from yesterday. If a machine dies, reimage.

 -Z.V.

 -Original Message-
 From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:42 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Desktop Backup

 The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and the
 other is to backup data only.
 Wei Yu


 - Original Message 
 From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
 Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

 What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?

 Z.V.

 -Original Message-
 From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Desktop Backup

 Hi,
 My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They have
 about 1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what have
 you recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
 Thanks.
 Best Regards,

 Wei Yu


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RE: Desktop Backup

[Martin Blackstone]

I hope you have a boatload of server space.
At a bare minimum you are going to consume at least 1 TB. It could be
upwards of 40 TB +.
PLUS backup of that data.

I might be looking at a 3rd party service like S3.

-Original Message-
From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Desktop Backup

The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and the
other is to backup data only.
Wei Yu


- Original Message 
From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?

Z.V.

-Original Message-
From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Desktop Backup

Hi,
My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They have
about 1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what have
you recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
Thanks.
Best Regards,

Wei Yu


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RE: Desktop Backup

[Ken Schaefer]

Something like DPM that does SIS would dramatically reduce the space required. 
Though DPM isn't really suited to disconnected clients.

Cheers
Ken

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 10:29 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

 I hope you have a boatload of server space.
 At a bare minimum you are going to consume at least 1 TB. It could be
 upwards of 40 TB +.
 PLUS backup of that data.

 I might be looking at a 3rd party service like S3.

 -Original Message-
 From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:42 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Desktop Backup

 The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and
 the
 other is to backup data only.
 Wei Yu


 - Original Message 
 From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
 Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

 What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?

 Z.V.

 -Original Message-
 From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Desktop Backup

 Hi,
 My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They
 have
 about 1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what
 have
 you recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
 Thanks.
 Best Regards,

 Wei Yu



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RE: Desktop Backup

[Kennedy, Jim]

Let's re-ask the 'what does the client want to backup question again'.

Is the issue getting my documents and the desktop?...might be better to 
redirect those and and set the laptops up to use offline folders..hide the 
C drive from the users so they can't make out of the way folders.


  -Original Message-
  From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:42 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Desktop Backup
 
  The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and
  the
  other is to backup data only.
  Wei Yu
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
  Subject: RE: Desktop Backup
 
  What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?
 
  Z.V.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Desktop Backup
 
  Hi,
  My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They
  have
  about 1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what
  have
  you recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
  Thanks.
  Best Regards,
 
  Wei Yu
 
 
 
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RE: Desktop Backup

[Martin Blackstone]

I’d also be curious as to whether these users are in an office or road
warriors. Bandwidth is also a consideration.

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 5:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

Let's re-ask the 'what does the client want to backup question again'.

Is the issue getting my documents and the desktop?...might be better to
redirect those and and set the laptops up to use offline folders..hide
the C drive from the users so they can't make out of the way folders.


  -Original Message-
  From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:42 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Desktop Backup
 
  The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and
  the
  other is to backup data only.
  Wei Yu
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
  Subject: RE: Desktop Backup
 
  What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?
 
  Z.V.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Desktop Backup
 
  Hi,
  My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They
  have
  about 1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what
  have
  you recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
  Thanks.
  Best Regards,
 
  Wei Yu
 
 
 
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RE: Desktop Backup

[Martin Blackstone]

Yes. You would certainly want some kind of deduplication technology to save
space and bandwidth. There would most likely be a lot of redundant bits in
there.

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 5:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

Something like DPM that does SIS would dramatically reduce the space
required. Though DPM isn't really suited to disconnected clients.

Cheers
Ken

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 10:29 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

 I hope you have a boatload of server space.
 At a bare minimum you are going to consume at least 1 TB. It could be
 upwards of 40 TB +.
 PLUS backup of that data.

 I might be looking at a 3rd party service like S3.

 -Original Message-
 From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:42 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Desktop Backup

 The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and
 the
 other is to backup data only.
 Wei Yu


 - Original Message 
 From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
 Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

 What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?

 Z.V.

 -Original Message-
 From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Desktop Backup

 Hi,
 My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They
 have
 about 1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what
 have
 you recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
 Thanks.
 Best Regards,

 Wei Yu



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Re: Desktop Backup

[mck1012]

Iron Mountain offers software just for this called connected.  
http://www.ironmountain.com/digital/pc/connected.asp



 


- Original Message 
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 8:42:05 AM
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

I’d also be curious as to whether these users are in an office or road
warriors. Bandwidth is also a consideration.

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 5:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

Let's re-ask the 'what does the client want to backup question again'.

Is the issue getting my documents and the desktop?...might be better to
redirect those and and set the laptops up to use offline folders..hide
the C drive from the users so they can't make out of the way folders.


  -Original Message-
  From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:42 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Desktop Backup
 
  The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and
  the
  other is to backup data only.
  Wei Yu
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
  Subject: RE: Desktop Backup
 
  What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?
 
  Z.V.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Desktop Backup
 
  Hi,
  My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They
  have
  about 1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what
  have
  you recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
  Thanks.
  Best Regards,
 
  Wei Yu
 
 
 
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RE: Desktop Backup

[Martin Blackstone]

I’d also be curious as to whether these users are in an office or road
warriors. Bandwidth is also a consideration.

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 5:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

Let's re-ask the 'what does the client want to backup question again'.

Is the issue getting my documents and the desktop?...might be better to
redirect those and and set the laptops up to use offline folders..hide
the C drive from the users so they can't make out of the way folders.


  -Original Message-
  From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:42 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Desktop Backup
 
  The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and
  the
  other is to backup data only.
  Wei Yu
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
  Subject: RE: Desktop Backup
 
  What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?
 
  Z.V.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Desktop Backup
 
  Hi,
  My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They
  have
  about 1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what
  have
  you recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
  Thanks.
  Best Regards,
 
  Wei Yu
 
 
 
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Re: Desktop Backup

[mck1012]

To add to this. If this is confidential data on these computers I would rethink 
where you want to send your data to.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Bringing_down_the_cloud_HPs_Upline_down_for_a_third_of_its_life/1208893272



- Original Message 
From: mck1012 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 8:48:57 AM
Subject: Re: Desktop Backup


Iron Mountain offers software just for this called connected.  
http://www.ironmountain.com/digital/pc/connected.asp



 


- Original Message 
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 8:42:05 AM
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

I’d also be curious as to whether these users are in an office or road
warriors. Bandwidth is also a consideration.

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 5:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

Let's re-ask the 'what does the client want to backup question again'.

Is the issue getting my documents and the desktop?...might be better to
redirect those and and set the laptops up to use offline folders..hide
the C drive from the users so they can't make out of the way folders.


  -Original Message-
  From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:42 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Desktop Backup
 
  The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and
  the
  other is to backup data only.
  Wei Yu
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
  Subject: RE: Desktop Backup
 
  What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?
 
  Z.V.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Desktop Backup
 
  Hi,
  My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They
  have
  about 1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what
  have
  you recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
  Thanks.
  Best Regards,
 
  Wei Yu
 
 
 
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Re: Desktop Backup

[Kevin Lundy]

Hmm, I hadn't noticed - does DPM provide SIS?

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Something like DPM that does SIS would dramatically reduce the space
 required. Though DPM isn't really suited to disconnected clients.

 Cheers
 Ken

  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 10:29 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: Desktop Backup
 
  I hope you have a boatload of server space.
  At a bare minimum you are going to consume at least 1 TB. It could be
  upwards of 40 TB +.
  PLUS backup of that data.
 
  I might be looking at a 3rd party service like S3.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:42 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Desktop Backup
 
  The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and
  the
  other is to backup data only.
  Wei Yu
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
  Subject: RE: Desktop Backup
 
  What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?
 
  Z.V.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Desktop Backup
 
  Hi,
  My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They
  have
  about 1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what
  have
  you recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
  Thanks.
  Best Regards,
 
  Wei Yu
 
 
 
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RE: Desktop Backup

[Joe Heaton]

I'm curious as to why users would have data on their desktop machines, anyway.  
Why not redirect to server shares?  For instance, we redirect everyone's My 
Documents folder, and setup the default save directories for Office, to the 
users' home directories on our file server.  Then we back up those folders.  A 
lot easier than trying to have a backup software access 1000+ separate machines 
each night. 


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Desktop Backup

The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and the other 
is to backup data only.
Wei Yu


- Original Message 
From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?

Z.V.

-Original Message-
From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Desktop Backup

Hi,
My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They have about 
1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what have you 
recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
Thanks.
Best Regards,

Wei Yu


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Re: Desktop Backup

[Jon Harris]

Redirecting PST's, in my case, is VERY bad and also not recommended but then
we can finally do away with PST's sometime next year I hope.

Jon

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Joe Heaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm curious as to why users would have data on their desktop machines,
 anyway.  Why not redirect to server shares?  For instance, we redirect
 everyone's My Documents folder, and setup the default save directories for
 Office, to the users' home directories on our file server.  Then we back up
 those folders.  A lot easier than trying to have a backup software access
 1000+ separate machines each night.


 Joe Heaton

 -Original Message-
 From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:42 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Desktop Backup

 The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and the
 other is to backup data only.
 Wei Yu


 - Original Message 
 From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
 Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

 What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?

 Z.V.

 -Original Message-
 From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Desktop Backup

 Hi,
 My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They have
 about 1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what have
 you recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
 Thanks.
 Best Regards,

 Wei Yu


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RE: Desktop Backup

[gsweers]

Good reading on the benefits of SIS through an organization.
Differences between Storage Server 2003 R2 and running sys on a DPM 2007
server.

 

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/wss2003/productinformation/
wss2003r2-itpros-wp.mspx

 

Storage server using SIS links will grovel the various file shares and
move duplicate data to a single instance in an SIS Common Store and then
put pointer files at the various server locations.  Storage server is
the only OS that will comb multiple servers and storage locations to do
this.  Whereas my understanding is that you can have DPM with SIS
installed on a single server and as long as data is stored on that
server SIS will function, but it does not grovel the rest of the
possible data stores looking for duplicate files.

 

 

From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Desktop Backup

 

Hmm, I hadn't noticed - does DPM provide SIS?

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Something like DPM that does SIS would dramatically reduce the space
required. Though DPM isn't really suited to disconnected clients.

Cheers
Ken


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 10:29 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

 I hope you have a boatload of server space.
 At a bare minimum you are going to consume at least 1 TB. It could be
 upwards of 40 TB +.
 PLUS backup of that data.

 I might be looking at a 3rd party service like S3.

 -Original Message-
 From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:42 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Desktop Backup

 The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and
 the
 other is to backup data only.
 Wei Yu


 - Original Message 
 From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
 Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

 What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?

 Z.V.

 -Original Message-
 From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Desktop Backup

 Hi,
 My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They
 have
 about 1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what
 have
 you recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
 Thanks.
 Best Regards,

 Wei Yu



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RE: Desktop Backup

[Vue, Za]

What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?

Z.V.

-Original Message-
From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Desktop Backup

Hi,
My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They have about 
1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what have you 
recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
Thanks.
Best Regards,

Wei Yu


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Re: Desktop Backup

[Active Elk]

The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and the other 
is to backup data only.
Wei Yu


- Original Message 
From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?

Z.V.

-Original Message-
From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Desktop Backup

Hi,
My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They have about 
1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what have you 
recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
Thanks.
Best Regards,

Wei Yu


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Re: Desktop Backup

[Ski Kacoroski]

I  highly recommend backuppc.  For the last 3 years I have been using
it to back up over 1500 workstations (about 600 laptops).  it is free
and just plain works.

ski

On 5/1/08, Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They have
 about 1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what have
 you recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
 Thanks.
 Best Regards,

 Wei Yu


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RE: Desktop Backup

[Vue, Za]

Personally I think it is an overkill backing up everything. What is it that the 
client want to accomplish? We are talking about 1000 machines with an average 
of 3-5GB disk space requirement min. What about the employee who loaded 5 GB of 
music files to his My Documents folder? Now you have illegal copy of music 
files on your network. Does the client want to back those up? Too much 
resources are required to accomplish a task that I think it is not necessary or 
practical.

Workstations=Use one single ghost image for identical machines. Same for 
laptops. If the client runs Vista then you don't even need that many images. 
Perhaps one for workstations and one for laptops.

Enable Shadow Copy on file servers and redirect My Documents folder to the 
network with GPO. Someone deleted a file it takes a few seconds to restore it 
from yesterday. If a machine dies, reimage.

-Z.V.

-Original Message-
From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Desktop Backup

The client is looking into 2 options. One is to backup everything and the other 
is to backup data only.
Wei Yu


- Original Message 
From: Vue, Za [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 9:28:00
Subject: RE: Desktop Backup

What exactly do you want to back up from the clients?

Z.V.

-Original Message-
From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Desktop Backup

Hi,
My client would like to have a desktop/laptop backup solution. They have about 
1000 users. May I know for those who has done this before, what have you 
recommended and for those who have done it, how did you do it?
Thanks.
Best Regards,

Wei Yu


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