Re: Meraki
So, my device arrived today -- solid piece of hardware, so no complaints. As I review the setup instructions, I see a different concern than the ones that have been voiced thus far. I'm really not worried about what might happen 3 years from now, but rather how much information a cloud managed network device will provide about my whole network, and not just the device itself. The basic instructions say to logon to the website and configure the settings for the device, then put it on the network and have it download all its settings. I'm going to pay close attention to the type of traffic that this device sees fit to disclose. :) Not a complaint so much as an observation. There's always OpenWRT... *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: Here is the question and answer from Meraki about what happens when the license expires. 1. What happens when or if the license for the Cloud Management of the device lapse?** ** **- Devices have a 90 day grace period for renewal. Beyond that, they will not be able to pass traffic. Jon -- From: jk.har...@live.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:35 -0400 The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the action would take place. The action in this instance was that it would stop passing traffic. When I get to work later I will cut the actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high dollar network devices under contract. Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. Jon -- From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Meraki Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 + It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that’s not a hard cut off. We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to manage it. That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to the cost over 3 years. At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/*** *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-644-3479 Cell* From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Reply-To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad that the device itself would stop working if you don’t renew the license. *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com jk.har...@live.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 7:57 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Meraki Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We are not that commited to doing wireless except for BOD and certain officers at only certain locations. This looked like something they would think about but with the yearly cost I don't know. Jon -- From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:03:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Meraki To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com My understanding was that the devices came with a 3 YEAR cloud license... *ASB
Re: Meraki
Which model did you get? Was this the free one they offer? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:45:55 -0800 Subject: Re: Meraki So, my device arrived today -- solid piece of hardware, so no complaints. As I review the setup instructions, I see a different concern than the ones that have been voiced thus far. I'm really not worried about what might happen 3 years from now, but rather how much information a cloud managed network device will provide about my whole network, and not just the device itself. The basic instructions say to logon to the website and configure the settings for the device, then put it on the network and have it download all its settings. I'm going to pay close attention to the type of traffic that this device sees fit to disclose. :) Not a complaint so much as an observation. There's always OpenWRT... *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: Here is the question and answer from Meraki about what happens when the license expires. 1. What happens when or if the license for the Cloud Management of the device lapse?** ** **- Devices have a 90 day grace period for renewal. Beyond that, they will not be able to pass traffic. Jon -- From: jk.har...@live.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:35 -0400 The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the action would take place. The action in this instance was that it would stop passing traffic. When I get to work later I will cut the actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high dollar network devices under contract. Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. Jon -- From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Meraki Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 + It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that’s not a hard cut off. We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to manage it. That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to the cost over 3 years. At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/*** *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-644-3479 Cell* From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Reply-To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad that the device itself would stop working if you don’t renew the license. *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com jk.har...@live.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 7:57 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Meraki Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We
RE: Meraki
Valid concern. That aside, I watched the presentation and was very impressed! -Sam From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Meraki So, my device arrived today -- solid piece of hardware, so no complaints. As I review the setup instructions, I see a different concern than the ones that have been voiced thus far. I'm really not worried about what might happen 3 years from now, but rather how much information a cloud managed network device will provide about my whole network, and not just the device itself. The basic instructions say to logon to the website and configure the settings for the device, then put it on the network and have it download all its settings. I'm going to pay close attention to the type of traffic that this device sees fit to disclose. :) Not a complaint so much as an observation. There's always OpenWRT... ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market. On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: Here is the question and answer from Meraki about what happens when the license expires. 1. What happens when or if the license for the Cloud Management of the device lapse? - Devices have a 90 day grace period for renewal. Beyond that, they will not be able to pass traffic. Jon _ From: jk.har...@live.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:35 -0400 The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the action would take place. The action in this instance was that it would stop passing traffic. When I get to work later I will cut the actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high dollar network devices under contract. Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. Jon _ From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Meraki Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 + It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that's not a hard cut off. We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to manage it. That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to the cost over 3 years. At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. Greg Sweers CEO http://www.acts360.com/ ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-644-3479 Cell From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Reply-To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad that the device itself would stop working if you don't renew the license. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Meraki Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We are not that commited to doing wireless except for BOD and certain officers at only certain locations. This looked like something they would think about but with the yearly cost I don't know. Jon _ From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:03:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Meraki To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt
Re: Meraki
Yep, the free one. The MR12 *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgwrote: Which model did you get? Was this the free one they offer? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:45:55 -0800 Subject: Re: Meraki So, my device arrived today -- solid piece of hardware, so no complaints. As I review the setup instructions, I see a different concern than the ones that have been voiced thus far. I'm really not worried about what might happen 3 years from now, but rather how much information a cloud managed network device will provide about my whole network, and not just the device itself. The basic instructions say to logon to the website and configure the settings for the device, then put it on the network and have it download all its settings. I'm going to pay close attention to the type of traffic that this device sees fit to disclose. :) Not a complaint so much as an observation. There's always OpenWRT... *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: Here is the question and answer from Meraki about what happens when the license expires. 1. What happens when or if the license for the Cloud Management of the device lapse?** ** **- Devices have a 90 day grace period for renewal. Beyond that, they will not be able to pass traffic. Jon -- From: jk.har...@live.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:35 -0400 The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the action would take place. The action in this instance was that it would stop passing traffic. When I get to work later I will cut the actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high dollar network devices under contract. Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. Jon -- From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Meraki Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 + It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that’s not a hard cut off. We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to manage it. That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to the cost over 3 years. At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/*** *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-644-3479 Cell* From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Reply-To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad that the device itself would stop working if you don’t renew the license. *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com jk.har...@live.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 7:57 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Meraki Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing
RE: Meraki
I agree that was one of the reasons I even looked further. I think it is about time someone had something like this now it just comes down to does it work as well as the Webinar showed it working and costs. Jon From: sca...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:17:02 -0500 Valid concern. That aside, I watched the presentation and was very impressed! -Sam From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Meraki So, my device arrived today -- solid piece of hardware, so no complaints. As I review the setup instructions, I see a different concern than the ones that have been voiced thus far. I'm really not worried about what might happen 3 years from now, but rather how much information a cloud managed network device will provide about my whole network, and not just the device itself. The basic instructions say to logon to the website and configure the settings for the device, then put it on the network and have it download all its settings. I'm going to pay close attention to the type of traffic that this device sees fit to disclose. :) Not a complaint so much as an observation. There's always OpenWRT... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote:Here is the question and answer from Meraki about what happens when the license expires. 1. What happens when or if the license for the Cloud Management of the device lapse? - Devices have a 90 day grace period for renewal. Beyond that, they will not be able to pass traffic. JonFrom: jk.har...@live.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: MerakiDate: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:35 -0400 The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the action would take place. The action in this instance was that it would stop passing traffic. When I get to work later I will cut the actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high dollar network devices under contract. Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. Jon From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Meraki Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 +It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that’s not a hard cut off. We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to manage it. That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to the cost over 3 years. At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. Greg SweersCEOACTS360.comP.O. Box 1193Brandon, FL 33509813-657-0849 Office813-644-3479 Cell From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Reply-To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad that the device itself would stop working if you don’t renew the license. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Meraki Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We are not that commited to doing wireless except for BOD and certain officers at only certain locations. This looked like something they would
RE: Meraki
Will you be posting what you find out on what the system pushes up to their cloud? Jon From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:50:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Meraki To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com The technology is quite impressive, I must admit. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Valid concern. That aside, I watched the presentation and was very impressed! -Sam From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Meraki So, my device arrived today -- solid piece of hardware, so no complaints. As I review the setup instructions, I see a different concern than the ones that have been voiced thus far. I'm really not worried about what might happen 3 years from now, but rather how much information a cloud managed network device will provide about my whole network, and not just the device itself. The basic instructions say to logon to the website and configure the settings for the device, then put it on the network and have it download all its settings. I'm going to pay close attention to the type of traffic that this device sees fit to disclose. :) Not a complaint so much as an observation. There's always OpenWRT... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: Here is the question and answer from Meraki about what happens when the license expires. 1. What happens when or if the license for the Cloud Management of the device lapse? - Devices have a 90 day grace period for renewal. Beyond that, they will not be able to pass traffic. Jon From: jk.har...@live.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: MerakiDate: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:35 -0400 The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the action would take place. The action in this instance was that it would stop passing traffic. When I get to work later I will cut the actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high dollar network devices under contract. Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. Jon From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Meraki Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 + It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that’s not a hard cut off. We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to manage it. That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to the cost over 3 years. At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. Greg SweersCEO ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office813-644-3479 Cell From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Reply-To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad that the device itself would stop working if you don’t renew the license. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Meraki Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get
RE: Meraki
If they changed that to a 90 day grace period, then they will limit themselves in another way (Maybe a single SSID, or limited bandwidth, or limited antenna power, something like that...) I would feel better about it. I just hate having to deal with anything that _depends_ on a service on the internet. What if that service is retired, or the company disappears? Does that mean the hardware becomes useless after 90 days? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:34:33 -0800 Subject: RE: Meraki Here is the question and answer from Meraki about what happens when the license expires. 1. What happens when or if the license for the Cloud Management of the device lapse? - Devices have a 90 day grace period for renewal. Beyond that, they will not be able to pass traffic. JonFrom: jk.har...@live.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:35 -0400 The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the action would take place. The action in this instance was that it would stop passing traffic. When I get to work later I will cut the actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high dollar network devices under contract. Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. Jon From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Meraki Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 + It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that’s not a hard cut off. We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to manage it. That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to the cost over 3 years. At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-644-3479 Cell From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Reply-To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad that the device itself would stop working if you don’t renew the license. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Meraki Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We are not that commited to doing wireless except for BOD and certain officers at only certain locations. This looked like something they would think about but with the yearly cost I don't know. Jon From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:03:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Meraki To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com My understanding was that the devices came with a 3 YEAR cloud license... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: After a little talking to a sales drone (quite
Re: Meraki
Such is life in the land of subscriptions and remote license checking. I'll bet they have a backdoor that they're not willing to provide or outline right now. Also, I'll be keeping my eye out for alternative firmware as a hedge against this particular issue. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgwrote: If they changed that to a 90 day grace period, then they will limit themselves in another way (Maybe a single SSID, or limited bandwidth, or limited antenna power, something like that...) I would feel better about it. I just hate having to deal with anything that _depends_ on a service on the internet. What if that service is retired, or the company disappears? Does that mean the hardware becomes useless after 90 days? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:34:33 -0800 Subject: RE: Meraki Here is the question and answer from Meraki about what happens when the license expires. 1. What happens when or if the license for the Cloud Management of the device lapse? - Devices have a 90 day grace period for renewal. Beyond that, they will not be able to pass traffic. JonFrom: jk.har...@live.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:35 -0400 The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the action would take place. The action in this instance was that it would stop passing traffic. When I get to work later I will cut the actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high dollar network devices under contract. Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. Jon From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Meraki Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 + It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that’s not a hard cut off. We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to manage it. That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to the cost over 3 years. At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-644-3479 Cell From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Reply-To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad that the device itself would stop working if you don’t renew the license. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Meraki Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We are not that commited to doing wireless except for BOD and certain officers at only certain locations. This looked like something they would think about but with the yearly
Re: Meraki
I'll bet they have a backdoor that they're not willing to provide or outline right now. Maybe, but I doubt it. Otherwise someone would have found it and exploited it. Also, if the APs have this feature, do the switches they sell do the same thing too? Will they stop passing traffic? Also, I'll be keeping my eye out for alternative firmware as a hedge against this particular issue. Ooh, good idea. I just checked, and it looks like those crazy kids at OpenWRT already have some of the Meraki APs loading their firmware. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:30:18 -0800 Subject: Re: Meraki Such is life in the land of subscriptions and remote license checking. I'll bet they have a backdoor that they're not willing to provide or outline right now. Also, I'll be keeping my eye out for alternative firmware as a hedge against this particular issue. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgwrote: If they changed that to a 90 day grace period, then they will limit themselves in another way (Maybe a single SSID, or limited bandwidth, or limited antenna power, something like that...) I would feel better about it. I just hate having to deal with anything that _depends_ on a service on the internet. What if that service is retired, or the company disappears? Does that mean the hardware becomes useless after 90 days? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:34:33 -0800 Subject: RE: Meraki Here is the question and answer from Meraki about what happens when the license expires. 1. What happens when or if the license for the Cloud Management of the device lapse? - Devices have a 90 day grace period for renewal. Beyond that, they will not be able to pass traffic. JonFrom: jk.har...@live.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:35 -0400 The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the action would take place. The action in this instance was that it would stop passing traffic. When I get to work later I will cut the actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high dollar network devices under contract. Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. Jon From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Meraki Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 + It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that’s not a hard cut off. We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to manage it. That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to the cost over 3 years. At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-644-3479 Cell From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Reply-To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad
Re: Meraki
*Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. * True, but 3 years is quite a bit of time. *I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. * Not only to many do it for antivirus, but everyone does it for telco services. It is becoming the new norm. The software landscape is changing, and subscriptions are going to be the predominant vehicle for commercial software, especially at the retail level in a few years. Oh, and this device isn't really being targeted at the average mom pop or homeowner. It's an enterprise level device and its being offered for free to IT professionals. 3 years use of it for zero dollars in outlay is better than most other alternatives, and perhaps it will be eligible for an opensource firmware within the 3 years. (The limitation in functionality appears to be a management one rather than a traffic-passing one) *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We are not that commited to doing wireless except for BOD and certain officers at only certain locations. This looked like something they would think about but with the yearly cost I don't know. Jon -- From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:03:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Meraki To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com My understanding was that the devices came with a 3 YEAR cloud license... *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: After a little talking to a sales drone (quite nice they let me initiate the conversation) I found out that if the Cloud Management License lapses by 90+ days then the AP will stop passing traffic. I don't know yet if that would be good thing or bad. I guess I will have to actually do some testing of the device they are shipping me to see if it is worth the MSRP of $150/AP/year. I can't see this for homeowners or even a lot of mom pop SMBs. I don't think they will be willing to fork over the year fee. Jon -- From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:23:41 + I love the Meraki AP’s. We have 40+ over multiple clients. Easy management, great performance. We had have replaced clients that were having horrible issues with Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc.. Not because the equipment was bad, but because the reseller sold it without the proper controllers, or told them they could manage multiple sites from a web page, when in fact they had to connect to the controller locally at each site to manage…. Fortunately almost all of them were able to return their products to reseller or direct. Setup the info on the dashboard. SSID, policies, etc.. Connect your laptop to the Meraki, set the IP/connection info, plug in to POE or injector and 2 mins later you are on and connected. Seamless roaming across a 12000 sqft facility with multiple walls, offices, floors. We have had what we think was just a bad manufacturing batch because about 4 in a one month period arrived, plugged in and promptly (3 -4 mins) fried. Different locations… But since then no issues. Prompt RMA service also.. Now the Firewalls…Same interface, excellent performance. Seriously lacking on features and granular controls. Sonicwall, Watchguard have them beat hands down. Needs polishing on the usability of the interface as well. We are actively involved with their development team as we have some of their higher end stuff in our datacenter and I am unable to meet some client application needs, but I am hopeful for some resolutions. In the meantime I had to install my old Sonicwall 2040 to get around it. If you are just looking for basic firewall and don’t need a lot of higher end firewall features the single management interface for everything is really nice. Automatic Site to Site with WAN Acceleration, Failover, etc are all included. The switches have some huge
RE: Meraki
From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:08:32 -0400 Subject: Re: Meraki To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. True, but 3 years is quite a bit of time. True very true. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. Not only to many do it for antivirus, but everyone does it for telco services. It is becoming the new norm. The software landscape is changing, and subscriptions are going to be the predominant vehicle for commercial software, especially at the retail level in a few years. Oh, and this device isn't really being targeted at the average mom pop or homeowner. It's an enterprise level device and its being offered for free to IT professionals. 3 years use of it for zero dollars in outlay is better than most other alternatives, and perhaps it will be eligible for an opensource firmware within the 3 years. (The limitation in functionality appears to be a management one rather than a traffic-passing one) Also true on all points but when you see somethng this powerful and can fill a market that has been begging for it, at least to me, it seems like something THEY should be interested in if for nothing else than this will do things and allow for more granular control where it may be needed. Homeowers need a way to assist themselves in controlling what is coming into their homes. How many times does it take for some kid getting enticed into meeting someone, watching some video of a less than intelligent person doing something stupid and then they get hurt or go missing before the parents get concerned? I know I never really had the time to keep an eye on my kid even though I tried hard to at least police her web browsing. Thank God she has a good head on her shoulders and a fixed goal she does not want to lose out on. I know other parents in the local area that are not even this blessed. If both parents work then it is doubly hard to do any policing. Mom and Pop stores will become, if they are not already, a high priority target for scammers and net theives. They don't have a lot of money to throw at IT fixes and don't have professional staff on contract to come in and review their systems and networks. Yes the initial out lay is a lot more than a Linksys or other device at that lever but with the web management part this Meraki offers them a lot more that could be leveraged to make their systems/networks better/safer. As you pointed out the system we are talking about is only to IT professionals. I don't know yet how much or under what conditions one sold would offer. If it offers the same first three years licensing then that would make it a better deal than one without that. Jon ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We are not that commited to doing wireless except for BOD and certain officers at only certain locations. This looked like something they would think about but with the yearly cost I don't know. Jon From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:03:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Meraki To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com My understanding was that the devices came with a 3 YEAR cloud license... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: After a little talking to a sales drone (quite nice they let me initiate the conversation) I found out that if the Cloud Management License lapses by 90+ days then the AP will stop passing traffic. I don't know yet if that would be good thing or bad. I guess I will have to actually do some testing of the device they are shipping me to see if it is worth the MSRP of $150/AP/year. I can't see this for homeowners or even a lot of mom pop SMBs. I don't think they will be willing to fork over the year fee. Jon From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:23:41 +
RE: Meraki
The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the action would take place. The action in this instance was that it would stop passing traffic. When I get to work later I will cut the actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high dollar network devices under contract. Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. Jon From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Meraki Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 + It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that’s not a hard cut off. We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to manage it. That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to the cost over 3 years. At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-644-3479 Cell From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Reply-To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad that the device itself would stop working if you don’t renew the license. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Meraki Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We are not that commited to doing wireless except for BOD and certain officers at only certain locations. This looked like something they would think about but with the yearly cost I don't know. Jon From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:03:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Meraki To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com My understanding was that the devices came with a 3 YEAR cloud license... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: After a little talking to a sales drone (quite nice they let me initiate the conversation) I found out that if the Cloud Management License lapses by 90+ days then the AP will stop passing traffic. I don't know yet if that would be good thing or bad. I guess I will have to actually do some testing of the device they are shipping me to see if it is worth the MSRP of $150/AP/year. I can't see this for homeowners or even a lot of mom pop SMBs. I don't think they will be willing to fork over the year fee. Jon From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:23:41 + I love the Meraki AP’s. We have 40+ over multiple clients. Easy management, great performance. We had have replaced clients that were having horrible issues with Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc.. Not because the equipment was bad, but because the reseller sold it without the proper controllers, or told them they could manage multiple sites from a web page, when in fact they had to connect to the controller locally at each site to manage…. Fortunately almost all of them were able to return their products to reseller or direct. Setup the info on the dashboard. SSID, policies, etc.. Connect your laptop to the Meraki, set the IP/connection
RE: Meraki
Here is the question and answer from Meraki about what happens when the license expires. 1. What happens when or if the license for the Cloud Management of the device lapse? - Devices have a 90 day grace period for renewal. Beyond that, they will not be able to pass traffic. JonFrom: jk.har...@live.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:35 -0400 The actual response was at the end of the contract + 90 days is when the action would take place. The action in this instance was that it would stop passing traffic. When I get to work later I will cut the actual question/answer from my email and send it to the list. I don't doubt that most larger businesses would keep this device under contract. It would be very unwise to do otherwise, although I have seen other businesses that depend on their network, not keep their high dollar network devices under contract. Like I said earlier did find the fact that unlike a lot of other IT directed businesses they seemed to be more interested in allowing their hardware, in this case, to sell themselves rather than have some sales drone push it hard. That in itself to me is a big plus for the company. Jon From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Meraki Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:57:46 + It doesn't stop passing traffic and right now that’s not a hard cut off. We have gone a few weeks past an expiration and we can still monitor and make changes. I am sure at some point though you would lose ability to manage it. That is the one part of the whole solution that I am concerned with, but in almost all of my clients they keep up the warranty on their devices, controllers, servers, etc because to have it fail and either the replacement cost or downtime exposure is pretty steep. The renewal cost on the licenses is paying for the service. If you factor the cost of a Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc by the time you pay for the AP's, the controller and license cost I am pretty sure you would be very close to the cost over 3 years. At least we were when we checked it over Ruckus on 3 years. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-644-3479 Cell From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Reply-To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:27 AM To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad that the device itself would stop working if you don’t renew the license. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Meraki Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We are not that commited to doing wireless except for BOD and certain officers at only certain locations. This looked like something they would think about but with the yearly cost I don't know. Jon From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:03:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Meraki To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com My understanding was that the devices came with a 3 YEAR cloud license... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: After a little talking to a sales drone (quite nice they let me initiate the conversation) I found out that if the Cloud Management License lapses by 90+ days then the AP will stop passing traffic. I don't know yet if that would be good thing or bad. I guess I will have to actually do some testing of the device they are shipping me to see if it is worth the MSRP of $150/AP/year. I can't see this for homeowners or even a lot of mom pop SMBs. I don't think they will be willing to fork over the year fee. Jon From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:23:41 + I love the Meraki AP’s. We have 40+ over multiple clients. Easy management, great performance. We had have replaced clients that were having horrible issues with Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc.. Not because the equipment was bad
RE: Meraki
I wonder if after 3 years you just lose the ability to manage it via the cloud. It seems pretty bad that the device itself would stop working if you don't renew the license. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Meraki Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We are not that commited to doing wireless except for BOD and certain officers at only certain locations. This looked like something they would think about but with the yearly cost I don't know. Jon _ From: asbz...@gmail.com mailto:asbz...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:03:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Meraki To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com My understanding was that the devices came with a 3 YEAR cloud license... ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market. On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com mailto:jk.har...@live.com wrote: After a little talking to a sales drone (quite nice they let me initiate the conversation) I found out that if the Cloud Management License lapses by 90+ days then the AP will stop passing traffic. I don't know yet if that would be good thing or bad. I guess I will have to actually do some testing of the device they are shipping me to see if it is worth the MSRP of $150/AP/year. I can't see this for homeowners or even a lot of mom pop SMBs. I don't think they will be willing to fork over the year fee. Jon _ From: gswe...@acts360.com mailto:gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:23:41 + I love the Meraki AP's. We have 40+ over multiple clients. Easy management, great performance. We had have replaced clients that were having horrible issues with Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc.. Not because the equipment was bad, but because the reseller sold it without the proper controllers, or told them they could manage multiple sites from a web page, when in fact they had to connect to the controller locally at each site to manage.. Fortunately almost all of them were able to return their products to reseller or direct. Setup the info on the dashboard. SSID, policies, etc.. Connect your laptop to the Meraki, set the IP/connection info, plug in to POE or injector and 2 mins later you are on and connected. Seamless roaming across a 12000 sqft facility with multiple walls, offices, floors. We have had what we think was just a bad manufacturing batch because about 4 in a one month period arrived, plugged in and promptly (3 -4 mins) fried. Different locations. But since then no issues. Prompt RMA service also.. Now the Firewalls.Same interface, excellent performance. Seriously lacking on features and granular controls. Sonicwall, Watchguard have them beat hands down. Needs polishing on the usability of the interface as well. We are actively involved with their development team as we have some of their higher end stuff in our datacenter and I am unable to meet some client application needs, but I am hopeful for some resolutions. In the meantime I had to install my old Sonicwall 2040 to get around it. If you are just looking for basic firewall and don't need a lot of higher end firewall features the single management interface for everything is really nice. Automatic Site to Site with WAN Acceleration, Failover, etc are all included. The switches have some huge promise too. We only have one at a client due to price.. Definitely not the cheapest when you can get a 24 port HP 1910 for 400 bucks vs 1100+. Greg Sweers CEO http://www.acts360.com/ ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-644-3479 Cell 813-644-3476 Fax From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com ] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Meraki We're looking at Meraki for our two manufacturing facilities.Here at HQ we installed Cisco wireless last year. I've been trying to get Cisco to buy back the equipment so it would be Meraki everywhere. So far no luck - seems like they are pretty much separate companies. I'm still hopeful since I like the meraki management. From: Patrick Salmon [mailto:psal...@gmail.com mailto:psal...@gmail.com
Re: Meraki
My understanding was that the devices came with a 3 YEAR cloud license... *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: After a little talking to a sales drone (quite nice they let me initiate the conversation) I found out that if the Cloud Management License lapses by 90+ days then the AP will stop passing traffic. I don't know yet if that would be good thing or bad. I guess I will have to actually do some testing of the device they are shipping me to see if it is worth the MSRP of $150/AP/year. I can't see this for homeowners or even a lot of mom pop SMBs. I don't think they will be willing to fork over the year fee. Jon -- From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:23:41 + I love the Meraki AP’s. We have 40+ over multiple clients. Easy management, great performance. We had have replaced clients that were having horrible issues with Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc.. Not because the equipment was bad, but because the reseller sold it without the proper controllers, or told them they could manage multiple sites from a web page, when in fact they had to connect to the controller locally at each site to manage…. Fortunately almost all of them were able to return their products to reseller or direct. Setup the info on the dashboard. SSID, policies, etc.. Connect your laptop to the Meraki, set the IP/connection info, plug in to POE or injector and 2 mins later you are on and connected. Seamless roaming across a 12000 sqft facility with multiple walls, offices, floors. We have had what we think was just a bad manufacturing batch because about 4 in a one month period arrived, plugged in and promptly (3 -4 mins) fried. Different locations… But since then no issues. Prompt RMA service also.. Now the Firewalls…Same interface, excellent performance. Seriously lacking on features and granular controls. Sonicwall, Watchguard have them beat hands down. Needs polishing on the usability of the interface as well. We are actively involved with their development team as we have some of their higher end stuff in our datacenter and I am unable to meet some client application needs, but I am hopeful for some resolutions. In the meantime I had to install my old Sonicwall 2040 to get around it. If you are just looking for basic firewall and don’t need a lot of higher end firewall features the single management interface for everything is really nice. Automatic Site to Site with WAN Acceleration, Failover, etc are all included. The switches have some huge promise too. We only have one at a client due to price.. Definitely not the cheapest when you can get a 24 port HP 1910 for 400 bucks vs 1100+… *Greg Sweers* CEO *ACTS360.com http://www.acts360.com/*** *P.O. Box 1193* *Brandon, FL 33509* *813-657-0849 Office* *813-644-3479 Cell* *813-644-3476 Fax* *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] *Sent:* Monday, March 11, 2013 8:56 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Meraki We're looking at Meraki for our two manufacturing facilities.Here at HQ we installed Cisco wireless last year. I've been trying to get Cisco to buy back the equipment so it would be Meraki everywhere. So far no luck - seems like they are pretty much separate companies. I'm still hopeful since I like the meraki management. *From:* Patrick Salmon [mailto:psal...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 08, 2013 4:38 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* OT: Meraki Since it came up the other week (and with full disclosure: I am a Cisco employee and Meraki is now a part of Cisco), anybody want a free AP? Yeah. Free. Follow link. sign up. Participate in webinar. Validate shipping details. Done. Before I get spanked, it is limited to NA and EU so apologies to anyone outside those geos. 802.11n, fully cloud-managed with a 3-yr subscription. Setup is a breeze. I did this a couple of months ago and was very happy with the MR16 they sent (I'm pretty certain that's the $699 one referenced in the link) and when I certified (SE's and Cisco partners only) they replaced it with the MR24 (more radios) added the NGFW and POE Switch. My home network is now entirely Meraki and while I have incentive to be somewhat biased have found it to be uber cool in its own right. Kinda harks back to the good old days when you could get Cisco t-shirts and books just by finding the right link; this is one such link, and you're welcome ;-) Link here: http://www.meraki.com/freeap Pat. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise
RE: Meraki
Yes but at the end of 3 years you have to renew the license or the device will stop passing traffic. At least that is what the sales drone told me. I still don't know a lot of homeowners or mom pop SMB's that will buy into something that requires this type of commitment or yearly price. I will know better after I do my evaluation but I don't see it happening long term. Once I am finished with my evaluation I get the lovely chore of passing my findings to my boss here at work for him to think about. We are not that commited to doing wireless except for BOD and certain officers at only certain locations. This looked like something they would think about but with the yearly cost I don't know. Jon From: asbz...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:03:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Meraki To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com My understanding was that the devices came with a 3 YEAR cloud license... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: After a little talking to a sales drone (quite nice they let me initiate the conversation) I found out that if the Cloud Management License lapses by 90+ days then the AP will stop passing traffic. I don't know yet if that would be good thing or bad. I guess I will have to actually do some testing of the device they are shipping me to see if it is worth the MSRP of $150/AP/year. I can't see this for homeowners or even a lot of mom pop SMBs. I don't think they will be willing to fork over the year fee. Jon From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:23:41 + I love the Meraki AP’s. We have 40+ over multiple clients. Easy management, great performance. We had have replaced clients that were having horrible issues with Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc.. Not because the equipment was bad, but because the reseller sold it without the proper controllers, or told them they could manage multiple sites from a web page, when in fact they had to connect to the controller locally at each site to manage…. Fortunately almost all of them were able to return their products to reseller or direct. Setup the info on the dashboard. SSID, policies, etc.. Connect your laptop to the Meraki, set the IP/connection info, plug in to POE or injector and 2 mins later you are on and connected. Seamless roaming across a 12000 sqft facility with multiple walls, offices, floors. We have had what we think was just a bad manufacturing batch because about 4 in a one month period arrived, plugged in and promptly (3 -4 mins) fried. Different locations… But since then no issues. Prompt RMA service also.. Now the Firewalls…Same interface, excellent performance. Seriously lacking on features and granular controls. Sonicwall, Watchguard have them beat hands down. Needs polishing on the usability of the interface as well. We are actively involved with their development team as we have some of their higher end stuff in our datacenter and I am unable to meet some client application needs, but I am hopeful for some resolutions. In the meantime I had to install my old Sonicwall 2040 to get around it. If you are just looking for basic firewall and don’t need a lot of higher end firewall features the single management interface for everything is really nice. Automatic Site to Site with WAN Acceleration, Failover, etc are all included. The switches have some huge promise too. We only have one at a client due to price.. Definitely not the cheapest when you can get a 24 port HP 1910 for 400 bucks vs 1100+… Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-644-3479 Cell 813-644-3476 Fax From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Meraki We're looking at Meraki for our two manufacturing facilities.Here at HQ we installed Cisco wireless last year. I've been trying to get Cisco to buy back the equipment so it would be Meraki everywhere. So far no luck - seems like they are pretty much separate companies. I'm still hopeful since I like the meraki management. From: Patrick Salmon [mailto:psal...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Meraki Since it came up the other week (and with full disclosure: I am a Cisco employee and Meraki is now a part of Cisco), anybody want a free AP? Yeah. Free. Follow link. sign up. Participate in webinar. Validate shipping details. Done. Before I get spanked, it is limited to NA and EU so apologies to anyone outside those geos. 802.11n, fully cloud-managed with a 3-yr subscription. Setup is a breeze. I did this a couple
RE: Meraki
After a little talking to a sales drone (quite nice they let me initiate the conversation) I found out that if the Cloud Management License lapses by 90+ days then the AP will stop passing traffic. I don't know yet if that would be good thing or bad. I guess I will have to actually do some testing of the device they are shipping me to see if it is worth the MSRP of $150/AP/year. I can't see this for homeowners or even a lot of mom pop SMBs. I don't think they will be willing to fork over the year fee. Jon From: gswe...@acts360.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Meraki Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:23:41 + I love the Meraki AP’s. We have 40+ over multiple clients. Easy management, great performance. We had have replaced clients that were having horrible issues with Rukus, Firetide, Cisco, etc.. Not because the equipment was bad, but because the reseller sold it without the proper controllers, or told them they could manage multiple sites from a web page, when in fact they had to connect to the controller locally at each site to manage…. Fortunately almost all of them were able to return their products to reseller or direct. Setup the info on the dashboard. SSID, policies, etc.. Connect your laptop to the Meraki, set the IP/connection info, plug in to POE or injector and 2 mins later you are on and connected. Seamless roaming across a 12000 sqft facility with multiple walls, offices, floors. We have had what we think was just a bad manufacturing batch because about 4 in a one month period arrived, plugged in and promptly (3 -4 mins) fried. Different locations… But since then no issues. Prompt RMA service also.. Now the Firewalls…Same interface, excellent performance. Seriously lacking on features and granular controls. Sonicwall, Watchguard have them beat hands down. Needs polishing on the usability of the interface as well. We are actively involved with their development team as we have some of their higher end stuff in our datacenter and I am unable to meet some client application needs, but I am hopeful for some resolutions. In the meantime I had to install my old Sonicwall 2040 to get around it. If you are just looking for basic firewall and don’t need a lot of higher end firewall features the single management interface for everything is really nice. Automatic Site to Site with WAN Acceleration, Failover, etc are all included. The switches have some huge promise too. We only have one at a client due to price.. Definitely not the cheapest when you can get a 24 port HP 1910 for 400 bucks vs 1100+… Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-644-3479 Cell 813-644-3476 Fax From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Meraki We're looking at Meraki for our two manufacturing facilities.Here at HQ we installed Cisco wireless last year. I've been trying to get Cisco to buy back the equipment so it would be Meraki everywhere. So far no luck - seems like they are pretty much separate companies. I'm still hopeful since I like the meraki management. From: Patrick Salmon [mailto:psal...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Meraki Since it came up the other week (and with full disclosure: I am a Cisco employee and Meraki is now a part of Cisco), anybody want a free AP? Yeah. Free. Follow link. sign up. Participate in webinar. Validate shipping details. Done. Before I get spanked, it is limited to NA and EU so apologies to anyone outside those geos. 802.11n, fully cloud-managed with a 3-yr subscription. Setup is a breeze. I did this a couple of months ago and was very happy with the MR16 they sent (I'm pretty certain that's the $699 one referenced in the link) and when I certified (SE's and Cisco partners only) they replaced it with the MR24 (more radios) added the NGFW and POE Switch. My home network is now entirely Meraki and while I have incentive to be somewhat biased have found it to be uber cool in its own right. Kinda harks back to the good old days when you could get Cisco t-shirts and books just by finding the right link; this is one such link, and you're welcome ;-) Link here: http://www.meraki.com/freeap Pat. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send
RE: Meraki
We're looking at Meraki for our two manufacturing facilities.Here at HQ we installed Cisco wireless last year. I've been trying to get Cisco to buy back the equipment so it would be Meraki everywhere. So far no luck - seems like they are pretty much separate companies. I'm still hopeful since I like the meraki management. From: Patrick Salmon [mailto:psal...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Meraki Since it came up the other week (and with full disclosure: I am a Cisco employee and Meraki is now a part of Cisco), anybody want a free AP? Yeah. Free. Follow link. sign up. Participate in webinar. Validate shipping details. Done. Before I get spanked, it is limited to NA and EU so apologies to anyone outside those geos. 802.11n, fully cloud-managed with a 3-yr subscription. Setup is a breeze. I did this a couple of months ago and was very happy with the MR16 they sent (I'm pretty certain that's the $699 one referenced in the link) and when I certified (SE's and Cisco partners only) they replaced it with the MR24 (more radios) added the NGFW and POE Switch. My home network is now entirely Meraki and while I have incentive to be somewhat biased have found it to be uber cool in its own right. Kinda harks back to the good old days when you could get Cisco t-shirts and books just by finding the right link; this is one such link, and you're welcome ;-) Link here: http://www.meraki.com/freeap Pat. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Meraki wireless
I was just going to say lots of schools use Meraki and Ruckus. :) I don't, but I have heard a million times on the lists like this one for Ohio Schools from the IT folks that they love them both. Never heard a complaint. Ruckus does seem to be a little more popular for the reasons Matt mentioned. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Meraki wireless If the number of APs you need are low, this looked to be a very cost-effective solution. As the APs went up, it became very expensive for the yearly fees. We looked at it, and went with a competitor. (Ruckus) Also, if you like something a ton cheaper, check out UniFi: http://www.ubnt.com/unifi --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 02 May 2012 16:16:58 -0700 Subject: Meraki wireless Anyone using http://www.meraki.com/ ? Had a demo today quite impressed uses a cloud controller with lots of polices and granular control, quit nice. Pros cons? -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Meraki wireless
Thanks I'll check out Ruckus, I probably need about 20 AP's so that would be $2k / year for the cloud controller. Thanks for your suggestions. Stefan On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote: I was just going to say lots of schools use Meraki and Ruckus. :) I don't, but I have heard a million times on the lists like this one for Ohio Schools from the IT folks that they love them both. Never heard a complaint. Ruckus does seem to be a little more popular for the reasons Matt mentioned. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Meraki wireless If the number of APs you need are low, this looked to be a very cost-effective solution. As the APs went up, it became very expensive for the yearly fees. We looked at it, and went with a competitor. (Ruckus) Also, if you like something a ton cheaper, check out UniFi: http://www.ubnt.com/unifi --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 02 May 2012 16:16:58 -0700 Subject: Meraki wireless Anyone using http://www.meraki.com/ ? Had a demo today quite impressed uses a cloud controller with lots of polices and granular control, quit nice. Pros cons? -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Meraki wireless
Check out Aerohive, too. We've used them for over a year with success. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Meraki wireless Anyone using http://www.meraki.com/ ? Had a demo today quite impressed uses a cloud controller with lots of polices and granular control, quit nice. Pros cons? -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Meraki wireless
If the number of APs you need are low, this looked to be a very cost-effective solution. As the APs went up, it became very expensive for the yearly fees. We looked at it, and went with a competitor. (Ruckus) Also, if you like something a ton cheaper, check out UniFi: http://www.ubnt.com/unifi --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wed, 02 May 2012 16:16:58 -0700 Subject: Meraki wireless Anyone using http://www.meraki.com/ ? Had a demo today quite impressed uses a cloud controller with lots of polices and granular control, quit nice. Pros cons? -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
