Re: Virtualized Websense?
I thought ISA was the cure to AIDS, Peace in the Middle East, and hunger in 3rd world countries everywhere?! Now, if only it could fix gov't and global warming On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote: (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks…I still love you Dr. Tom… J Shook *From:* Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** *John C. Kelsey *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** *John C. Kelsey *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any
Re: Virtualized Websense?
That's the iPhone you're thinking of 2009/7/2 Rob Bonfiglio robbonfig...@gmail.com I thought ISA was the cure to AIDS, Peace in the Middle East, and hunger in 3rd world countries everywhere?! Now, if only it could fix gov't and global warming On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote: (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks…I still love you Dr. Tom… J Shook *From:* Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** *John C. Kelsey *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** *John C. Kelsey *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you
RE: Virtualized Websense?
What a way to start my Thursday...Dr. Shinder, you complete me. Shook From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Hey, I've grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck :) I'm on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I don't even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks...I still love you Dr. Tom... :) Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should
RE: Virtualized Websense?
ISA is SOO yesterday. MicroChannel Architecture (MCA) is where it's at! -sc From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? I thought ISA was the cure to AIDS, Peace in the Middle East, and hunger in 3rd world countries everywhere?! Now, if only it could fix gov't and global warming On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote: (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks...I still love you Dr. Tom... J Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any
RE: Virtualized Websense?
UAG is the new IAG���and IAG rocks! Except for the price, which sucks. TVK From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 9:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? No love for the IAG??? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: Thomas W Shinder To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Jul 01 22:15:41 2009 Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? He�ve grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck ��� m on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I dot even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA suI still love you Dr.� ��� Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center : 814.375.3073 ���: jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center�: 814.375.3073 : jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use
RE: Virtualized Websense?
Still like IAG 2007, but UAG beta 2 is going public soon so that's where the buzz is :) Tom TOM SHINDER | Sr. Consultant/Technical Writer 206.443.1117 | shin...@prowesscorp.com 5701 Sixth Avenue South | Seattle, WA 98108 PROWESS | WWW.PROWESSCORP.COM http://www.prowesscorp.com/ From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 9:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? No love for the IAG??? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: Thomas W Shinder To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Jul 01 22:15:41 2009 Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Hey,ve grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck J m on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I dot even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucI still love you Dr. T J Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee
RE: Virtualized Websense?
Group hug ;) TOM SHINDER | Sr. Consultant/Technical Writer 206.443.1117 | shin...@prowesscorp.com 5701 Sixth Avenue South | Seattle, WA 98108 PROWESS | WWW.PROWESSCORP.COM http://www.prowesscorp.com/ From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What a way to start my Thursday...Dr. Shinder, you complete me. Shook From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Hey, I've grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck J I'm on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I don't even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks...I still love you Dr. Tom... J Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried
Re: Virtualized Websense?
Hey hey! Watch where you're putting that hand. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Thomas W Shinder tshin...@tacteam.netwrote: Group hug ;) ** *TOM SHINDER** | Sr. Consultant/Technical Writer 206.443.1117 | *shin...@prowesscorp.com shin...@prowesscorp.com * 5701 Sixth Avenue South | Seattle, WA 98108 PROWESS | *WWW.PROWESSCORP.COM http://www.prowesscorp.com/ ** *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? What a way to start my Thursday…Dr. Shinder, you complete me. Shook *From:* Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.net] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:16 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? Hey, I’ve grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck J I’m on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I don’t even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks…I still love you Dr. Tom… J Shook *From:* Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** *John C. Kelsey *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** *John C. Kelsey *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual
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I don't think it was his hand... On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Rob Bonfiglio robbonfig...@gmail.comwrote: Hey hey! Watch where you're putting that hand. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Thomas W Shinder tshin...@tacteam.netwrote: Group hug ;) ** *TOM SHINDER** | Sr. Consultant/Technical Writer 206.443.1117 | *shin...@prowesscorp.com shin...@prowesscorp.com * 5701 Sixth Avenue South | Seattle, WA 98108 PROWESS | *WWW.PROWESSCORP.COM http://www.prowesscorp.com/ ** *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? What a way to start my Thursday…Dr. Shinder, you complete me. Shook *From:* Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.net] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:16 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? Hey, I’ve grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck J I’m on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I don’t even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks…I still love you Dr. Tom… J Shook *From:* Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** *John C. Kelsey *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** *John C. Kelsey *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server
RE: Virtualized Websense?
It wasn't your belly button, either... From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? I don't think it was his hand... On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Rob Bonfiglio robbonfig...@gmail.com wrote: Hey hey! Watch where you're putting that hand. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Thomas W Shinder tshin...@tacteam.net wrote: Group hug ;) TOM SHINDER | Sr. Consultant/Technical Writer 206.443.1117 | shin...@prowesscorp.com 5701 Sixth Avenue South | Seattle, WA 98108 PROWESS | WWW.PROWESSCORP.COM http://www.prowesscorp.com/ From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What a way to start my Thursday...Dr. Shinder, you complete me. Shook From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Hey, I've grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck :-) I'm on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I don't even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks...I still love you Dr. Tom... :-) Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message
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Those aren't pillows From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? It wasn't your belly button, either... From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? I don't think it was his hand... On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Rob Bonfiglio robbonfig...@gmail.com wrote: Hey hey! Watch where you're putting that hand. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Thomas W Shinder tshin...@tacteam.net wrote: Group hug ;) TOM SHINDER | Sr. Consultant/Technical Writer 206.443.1117 | shin...@prowesscorp.com 5701 Sixth Avenue South | Seattle, WA 98108 PROWESS | WWW.PROWESSCORP.COM http://www.prowesscorp.com/ From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What a way to start my Thursday...Dr. Shinder, you complete me. Shook From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Hey, I've grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck :-) I'm on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I don't even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks...I still love you Dr. Tom... :-) Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center
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The bears hava great team this year; they're going to go all the way this year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCqcMOB6STc Andy Shook Sr. Sales Engineer Peak 10 8910 Lenox Pointe Drive Charlotte, NC 28273 ph: 704.264.1078 | mobile: 803-517-2168 | fax: 704.264.2010 |andy.sh...@peak10.commailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com MANAGED HOSTING | VIRTUALIZED SERVICES | MANAGED DATA CENTER SERVICES | SAS 70 TYPE II CERTIFIED Atlanta | Charlotte | Cincinnati | Jacksonville | Louisville | Nashville| Raleigh | Richmond | Tampa 1-866-732-5836 24x7x365 Solution Support Center This message contains information from Peak 10, Inc. which may be confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify administra...@peak10.commailto:administra...@peak10.com by e-mail. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Those aren't pillows From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? It wasn't your belly button, either... From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? I don't think it was his hand... On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Rob Bonfiglio robbonfig...@gmail.commailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com wrote: Hey hey! Watch where you're putting that hand. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Thomas W Shinder tshin...@tacteam.netmailto:tshin...@tacteam.net wrote: Group hug ;) TOM SHINDER | Sr. Consultant/Technical Writer 206.443.1117 | shin...@prowesscorp.commailto:shin...@prowesscorp.com 5701 Sixth Avenue South | Seattle, WA 98108 PROWESS | WWW.PROWESSCORP.COMhttp://www.prowesscorp.com/ From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.commailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What a way to start my Thursday...Dr. Shinder, you complete me. Shook From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.netmailto:tshin...@tacteam.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Hey, I've grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck :) I'm on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I don't even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.commailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks...I still love you Dr. Tom... :) Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.commailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt
RE: Virtualized Websense?
Roflmao! I think I missed that movie From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? The bears hava great team this year; they're going to go all the way this year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCqcMOB6STc --Andy Shook Sr. Sales Engineer Peak 10 8910 Lenox Pointe Drive Charlotte, NC 28273 ph: 704.264.1078 | mobile: 803-517-2168 | fax: 704.264.2010 |andy.sh...@peak10.com MANAGED HOSTING | VIRTUALIZED SERVICES | MANAGED DATA CENTER SERVICES | SAS 70 TYPE II CERTIFIED Atlanta | Charlotte | Cincinnati | Jacksonville | Louisville | Nashville| Raleigh | Richmond | Tampa 1-866-732-5836 24x7x365 Solution Support Center This message contains information from Peak 10, Inc. which may be confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify administra...@peak10.com by e-mail. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Those aren't pillows From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? It wasn't your belly button, either... From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? I don't think it was his hand... On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Rob Bonfiglio robbonfig...@gmail.com wrote: Hey hey! Watch where you're putting that hand. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Thomas W Shinder tshin...@tacteam.net wrote: Group hug ;) TOM SHINDER | Sr. Consultant/Technical Writer 206.443.1117 | shin...@prowesscorp.com 5701 Sixth Avenue South | Seattle, WA 98108 PROWESS | WWW.PROWESSCORP.COM http://www.prowesscorp.com/ From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What a way to start my Thursday...Dr. Shinder, you complete me. Shook From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Hey, I've grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck :-) I'm on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I don't even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks...I still love you Dr. Tom... :-) Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration
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Say what?! On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.comwrote: Roflmao! I think I missed that movie -- *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:55 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? The bears hava great team this year; they’re going to go all the way this year…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCqcMOB6STc *Andy Shook* *Sr. Sales Engineer* *Peak 10* *8910 Lenox Pointe Drive*** *Charlotte**, NC 28273*** *ph: 704.264.1078 | mobile: 803-517-2168 | fax: 704.264.2010 | andy.sh...@peak10.com* *MANAGED HOSTING | VIRTUALIZED SERVICES | MANAGED DATA CENTER SERVICES | SAS 70 TYPE II CERTIFIED* *Atlanta | Charlotte | Cincinnati | Jacksonville | Louisville | Nashville| Raleigh | Richmond | Tampa * *1-866-732-5836 24x7x365 Solution Support Center * *This message contains information from Peak 10, Inc. which may be confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify administra...@peak10.com by e-mail. * *From:* Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:48 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? Those aren't pillows -- *From:* Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:36 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? It wasn’t your belly button, either… -- *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:28 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? I don't think it was his hand... On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Rob Bonfiglio robbonfig...@gmail.com wrote: Hey hey! Watch where you're putting that hand. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Thomas W Shinder tshin...@tacteam.net wrote: Group hug ;) ** *TOM SHINDER** | Sr. Consultant/Technical Writer 206.443.1117 | *shin...@prowesscorp.com shin...@prowesscorp.com * 5701 Sixth Avenue South | Seattle, WA 98108 PROWESS | *WWW.PROWESSCORP.COM http://www.prowesscorp.com/ ** *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? What a way to start my Thursday…Dr. Shinder, you complete me. Shook *From:* Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.net] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:16 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? Hey, I’ve grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck J I’m on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I don’t even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks…I still love you Dr. Tom… J Shook *From:* Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** *John C. Kelsey *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words
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Chi Bears? With whiny little JBoy? LOL From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? The bears hava great team this year; they're going to go all the way this year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCqcMOB6STc --Andy Shook Sr. Sales Engineer Peak 10 8910 Lenox Pointe Drive Charlotte, NC 28273 ph: 704.264.1078 | mobile: 803-517-2168 | fax: 704.264.2010 |andy.sh...@peak10.com MANAGED HOSTING | VIRTUALIZED SERVICES | MANAGED DATA CENTER SERVICES | SAS 70 TYPE II CERTIFIED Atlanta | Charlotte | Cincinnati | Jacksonville | Louisville | Nashville| Raleigh | Richmond | Tampa 1-866-732-5836 24x7x365 Solution Support Center This message contains information from Peak 10, Inc. which may be confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify administra...@peak10.com by e-mail. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Those aren't pillows From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? It wasn't your belly button, either... From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? I don't think it was his hand... On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Rob Bonfiglio robbonfig...@gmail.com wrote: Hey hey! Watch where you're putting that hand. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Thomas W Shinder tshin...@tacteam.net wrote: Group hug ;) TOM SHINDER | Sr. Consultant/Technical Writer 206.443.1117 | shin...@prowesscorp.com 5701 Sixth Avenue South | Seattle, WA 98108 PROWESS | WWW.PROWESSCORP.COM http://www.prowesscorp.com/ From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What a way to start my Thursday...Dr. Shinder, you complete me. Shook From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Hey, I've grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck J I'm on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I don't even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks...I still love you Dr. Tom... J Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt
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Utto. Fail. -sc On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: Roflmao! I think I missed that movie From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? The bears hava great team this year; they're going to go all the way this year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCqcMOB6STc --Andy Shook Sr. Sales Engineer Peak 10 8910 Lenox Pointe Drive Charlotte, NC 28273 ph: 704.264.1078 | mobile: 803-517-2168 | fax: 704.264.2010 |andy.sh...@peak10.com MANAGED HOSTING | VIRTUALIZED SERVICES | MANAGED DATA CENTER SERVICES | SAS 70 TYPE II CERTIFIED Atlanta | Charlotte | Cincinnati | Jacksonville | Louisville | Nashville| Raleigh | Richmond | Tampa 1-866-732-5836 24x7x365 Solution Support Center This message contains information from Peak 10, Inc. which may be confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify administra...@peak10.com by e-mail. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Those aren't pillows From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? It wasn't your belly button, either... From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? I don't think it was his hand... On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Rob Bonfiglio robbonfig...@gmail.com wrote: Hey hey! Watch where you're putting that hand. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Thomas W Shinder tshin...@tacteam.net wrote: Group hug ;) TOM SHINDER | Sr. Consultant/Technical Writer 206.443.1117 | shin...@prowesscorp.com 5701 Sixth Avenue South | Seattle, WA 98108 PROWESS | WWW.PROWESSCORP.COM http://www.prowesscorp.com/ From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What a way to start my Thursday...Dr. Shinder, you complete me. Shook From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Hey, I've grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck J I'm on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I don't even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks...I still love you Dr. Tom... J Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined
Re: Virtualized Websense?
Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Virtualized Websense?
John, Sherry, Looking to implement the same. Any words of wisdom before we start? -Paul From: Kelsey, John [mailto:jckel...@drmc.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Virtualized Websense?
Crap-we were about to try the same (WebSense with Hyper-V). You can have multiple NICs in a VM, so that by itself shouldn't stop WebSense from working... From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? We have found the same thing with Hyper-V. I was curious if it was possible even though I would never run it that way in production, but the way that Websense connects to the multiple required NICs does not allow for virtualization. At least not at this point. Add in the fact that Websense is an enormous memory hog and I doubt it will ever be a good candidate for being virtualized. TVK From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Virtualized Websense?
Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** *John C. Kelsey *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Virtualized Websense?
Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Virtualized Websense?
Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke
RE: Virtualized Websense?
Because the database is loaded into memory to facilitate faster lookups, it isn't going to run very well in a VM unless you have a monster server it can run on. I think you can get around the port mirroring if you do not use a virtual switch, but I cant think of any situation that it would run well under because of the resource requirements, while providing the end user the performance they need. Klint From: Kelsey, John [mailto:jckel...@drmc.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Virtualized Websense?
ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** *John C. Kelsey *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** *John C. Kelsey *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Virtualized Websense?
Not sure on the devices, but moving away from ISA because the manager says we're moving away from ISA. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Malcolm Reitz malcolm.re...@live.comwrote: What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** *John C. Kelsey *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** *John C. Kelsey *DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE
RE: Virtualized Websense?
We're looking at a Cisco ASA 5520 here. Not sure if its going to work or not yet. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 14:26 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.gov
RE: Virtualized Websense?
(throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks...I still love you Dr. Tom... :) Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
RE: Virtualized Websense?
Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks...I still love you Dr. Tom... J Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential
RE: Virtualized Websense?
We use ours with a Cisco ASA now and it works great. TVK From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center *: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Virtualized Websense?
Hey, I've grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck J I'm on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I don't even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA sucks...I still love you Dr. Tom... J Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.gov
Re: Virtualized Websense?
No love for the IAG??? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: Thomas W Shinder To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Jul 01 22:15:41 2009 Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Hey, ve grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suc� m on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I dot even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA suckI still love you Dr. To Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center ���: 814.375.3073�: jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center : 814.375.3073 ���: jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J Street, 4th Floor Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 327-5276 jhea...@etp.ca.govmailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only
