Re: VDI in a Box?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Can you say now :). 

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 11, 2012, at 4:25 PM, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:

> You shouldn't have to worry about that. Seriously. Get your TAM or PAM to 
> quote it to you.
> 
> Licensing for VDI with SC2012SP1 should be simpler, but I think it's still 
> NDA, so I can't say anything.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] 
> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 5:20 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?
> 
> I am really keen to implement  a bring your own device model and offer hosted 
> desktops but I am having a hell of a time working  out the licensing 
> requirements.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?
> 
> No, sorry. "Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012" was the official 
> word, I believe.
> 
> But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using 
> the software now.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?
> 
> SP1 has been released?  
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?
> 
> You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very 
> slick!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: VDI in a Box?
> 
> Hey list.
> 
> We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple 
> question for you:
> 
> What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI 
> solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome.
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
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Re: OT VDI in a box.

[James Rankin]

Yes, the vendor has to agreeyou can use tools like AppDNA or ChangeBase
to give you an idea of any compatibility issues, but if the vendor won't
support it virtualized (it's just obstructiveness in some cases, but you
can't get away from it), then you'll have to put together an alternative
delivery mechanism.


On 14 December 2012 14:58, Webster  wrote:

>  Also remember there are some vendors whose License Agreement expressly
> forbids virtualizing their application(s) in any way (server, desktop or
> application).
>
> ** **
>
> I completed my part of a virtualization project back in early August (AD
> Assessment and looking at around 7,000 apps to determine virtualization
> candidates) and there were some apps where the vendor said one of two
> things:
>
> ** **
>
> **1.   **Our support contract is null and void for our apps if they
> are used in any type of virtualization environment (so no
> TS/RDS/XenApp/XenDesktop or App-V)
>
> **2.   **We expressly forbid our applications to be virtualized or
> used on any virtualization environment
>
> ** **
>
> Even Autodesk has a support page that lists their applications they
> support only under XenApp (and no they are not supported under pure TS/RDS
> from what I was emailed from the company).
>
> ** **
>
> Even if you know an application works under TS/RDS/XenApp but the vendor
> will not support it and states so in writing, then as a consultant I cannot
> possibly recommend the customer run that software on a XenApp server.
>
> ** **
>
> Bottom line, make sure your software vendor(s) support AND OR allow the
> use of their software in the way you intend to use it virtualized.
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Webster
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Subject:* Re: OT VDI in a box.
>
>  ** **
>
> If you have Citrix XenApp or RDS and no actual business driver for a full
> VDI implementation, then VDI is overkill in my opinion. Don't forget you
> can publish a desktop to a lot more users from one system via XenApp or
> RDS. With VDI it is one machine, one user. I think a lot of people forget
> that you can either deliver a server published desktop or individual apps
> to user devices without the need for actually delivering a full-fat Windows
> desktop machine to it.
>
>
> It totally depends on your needs - but in my experience VDI tends to be
> better suited to power users or users with applications that don't play
> well on the chosen SBC platform. YMMV, etc.
>
>  ** **
>
> On 14 December 2012 13:59, Kennedy, Jim 
> wrote:
>
> We are not stuck on VIAB. I just zeroed in on it because I am a Hyper-V
> shop and it plays well and deploys easily. We really have not decided which
> solution we are going to use.
>
> Are you saying VDI is overkill? This is certainly going to be a simple
> solution with not a lot of connections.
>
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RE: OT VDI in a box.

[Maglinger, Paul]

Oh?  Are you in Washington state or Colorado?

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 8:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT VDI in a box.

We have the absolute best brownies I have ever had in my life here from the 
student kitchen. They are amazing.

-Original Message-
From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT VDI in a box.

Food parcels would suffice :-)

---Blackberried

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff 
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:20:13
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: OT VDI in a box.

Volunteer == no pay, right? :)

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM, James Rankin  wrote:
> I'll volunteer to work on it :-)
>
>
> On 13 December 2012 22:01, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
>>
>> Just TRY to find someone to work on it! Impossible.
>>
>>
>>
>> I give it a major “down check” just because of that.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:28 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: OT VDI in a box.
>>
>>
>>
>> The bloggers I know personally that have used it love it and extol it 
>> praises in how simple it is to deploy AND maintain.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this time, there is NO upgrade or migration path from VIAB to 
>> XenDesktop.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/25/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-
>> in-a-box-part-1-setting-up-the-server/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/28/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-
>> in-a-box-part-2-creating-master-image/
>>
>>
>>
>> I just sent Neil an email asking where is part three.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Webster
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
>>
>> Subject: OT VDI in a box.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are going to have to go BYOD(oom). There is no escaping it in the 
>> public edu environment. The powers that be look at them as ‘free’ computers.
>> So we are thinking a virtual desktop environment . One that is 
>> accessable via guest wireless and that can only talk to a few select 
>> servers…like their own user file servers. Then we deliver the appropriate 
>> desktop to them.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is for students, so we have to assume they are intentionally 
>> malicious/destructive/wanting to hack us.
>>
>>
>>
>> VDI in a box looks interesting. Rolls easily, runs on Hyper-V which 
>> is our virtualization software of choice….
>>
>>
>>
>> Opinions and experiences gang?
>>
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>
>
>
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RE: OT VDI in a box.

[Steven M. Caesare]

It's the "special ingredient"

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT VDI in a box.
> 
> We have the absolute best brownies I have ever had in my life here from the 
> student kitchen. They are amazing.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:39 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT VDI in a box.
> 
> Food parcels would suffice :-)
> 
> ---Blackberried
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff 
> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:20:13
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: Re: OT VDI in a box.
> 
> Volunteer == no pay, right? :)
> 
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM, James Rankin  wrote:
> > I'll volunteer to work on it :-)
> >
> >
> > On 13 December 2012 22:01, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
> >>
> >> Just TRY to find someone to work on it! Impossible.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I give it a major “down check” just because of that.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
> >>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:28 PM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: OT VDI in a box.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The bloggers I know personally that have used it love it and extol it
> >> praises in how simple it is to deploy AND maintain.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At this time, there is NO upgrade or migration path from VIAB to
> >> XenDesktop.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/25/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-
> >> in-a-box-part-1-setting-up-the-server/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/28/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-
> >> in-a-box-part-2-creating-master-image/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I just sent Neil an email asking where is part three.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Webster
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> >>
> >> Subject: OT VDI in a box.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We are going to have to go BYOD(oom). There is no escaping it in the
> >> public edu environment. The powers that be look at them as ‘free’ 
> >> computers.
> >> So we are thinking a virtual desktop environment . One that is
> >> accessable via guest wireless and that can only talk to a few select
> >> servers…like their own user file servers. Then we deliver the appropriate 
> >> desktop to them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is for students, so we have to assume they are intentionally
> >> malicious/destructive/wanting to hack us.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> VDI in a box looks interesting. Rolls easily, runs on Hyper-V which
> >> is our virtualization software of choice….
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Opinions and experiences gang?
> >>
> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >>
> >> ---
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> >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
> >>
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> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > James Rankin
> > Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
> > http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
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RE: OT VDI in a box.

[Kennedy, Jim]

We have the absolute best brownies I have ever had in my life here from the 
student kitchen. They are amazing.

-Original Message-
From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT VDI in a box.

Food parcels would suffice :-)

---Blackberried

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff 
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:20:13
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: OT VDI in a box.

Volunteer == no pay, right? :)

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM, James Rankin  wrote:
> I'll volunteer to work on it :-)
>
>
> On 13 December 2012 22:01, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
>>
>> Just TRY to find someone to work on it! Impossible.
>>
>>
>>
>> I give it a major “down check” just because of that.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:28 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: OT VDI in a box.
>>
>>
>>
>> The bloggers I know personally that have used it love it and extol it 
>> praises in how simple it is to deploy AND maintain.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this time, there is NO upgrade or migration path from VIAB to 
>> XenDesktop.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/25/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-
>> in-a-box-part-1-setting-up-the-server/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/28/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-
>> in-a-box-part-2-creating-master-image/
>>
>>
>>
>> I just sent Neil an email asking where is part three.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Webster
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
>>
>> Subject: OT VDI in a box.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are going to have to go BYOD(oom). There is no escaping it in the 
>> public edu environment. The powers that be look at them as ‘free’ computers.
>> So we are thinking a virtual desktop environment . One that is 
>> accessable via guest wireless and that can only talk to a few select 
>> servers…like their own user file servers. Then we deliver the appropriate 
>> desktop to them.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is for students, so we have to assume they are intentionally 
>> malicious/destructive/wanting to hack us.
>>
>>
>>
>> VDI in a box looks interesting. Rolls easily, runs on Hyper-V which 
>> is our virtualization software of choice….
>>
>>
>>
>> Opinions and experiences gang?
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
>> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
>> ---
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>
>
>
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RE: OT VDI in a box.

[Kennedy, Jim]

It is this, without question:   ""Bring your device, but if it doesn't work 
then it's your problem," ...other than the older XP machines that we own that 
we are going to extend the life of

But you raise valid questions that should always be answered, answers in line.

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT VDI in a box.

We have been looking at VDI in a Box as well, but not as a BYOD solution.

I like BYOD, but I think it's not worth it in the end. If it's a "Bring your 
device, but if it doesn't work then it's your problem," kind of BYOD, I have no 
problems. Otherwise, here are some bullets for shooting down this bad idea:

* Will each student be expected to use the VDI-in-a-Box desktop to use Office?
If they want to store their stuff on their network storage, yes. If they want 
to go Google Apps or Office with Google App storage they can. They all have 
both already.

* Is it expected that the VDI-in-a-Box session will be where the students will 
be content filtered?
They are content filtered everywhere. If they hit guest and go straight out 
with their device they are filtered. They will of course be filtered on the VDI 
box as well.

* Will students be provided with a device if they cannot afford a laptop? (This 
is a question that often comes up for these kinds of ideas at our school.)
They will use existing devices, which are plentiful. This is in addition to our 
devices...giving the user options.

* Will a student with an iPad, iPod touch or Android device have reduces 
productivity vs a computer with a built in keyboard? How will this be 
compensated for?
They can do what they can with the device or they can use our existing desktops.

* Will you be supporting BYOD devices "after hours"? Do you have the staffing 
for such support?
Heck no we wont be supporting them during hours, let alone after hours.

* Is your wireless infrastructure up to the task of the increased workload?
Yes, and then some.
* Do all of your currently supported software program work under a VDI solution?
Yes, very well. Any thing that does no has already been phased out.

* Does your school currently have the right to confiscate inappropriate 
material or devices? If you do, how does the student perform the necessary 
tasks without their BYOD?
Yes, we have the right and I believe the legal requirement to confiscate 
inappropriate material. They can go back to using our desktops.


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Re: OT VDI in a box.

[Kurt Buff]

Didn't we do that something like 60 years ago? :)

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Rankin, James R  wrote:
> Food parcels would suffice :-)
>
> ---Blackberried
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff 
> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:20:13
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Subject: Re: OT VDI in a box.
>
> Volunteer == no pay, right? :)
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM, James Rankin  wrote:
>> I'll volunteer to work on it :-)
>>
>>
>> On 13 December 2012 22:01, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
>>>
>>> Just TRY to find someone to work on it! Impossible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I give it a major “down check” just because of that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:28 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: OT VDI in a box.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The bloggers I know personally that have used it love it and extol it
>>> praises in how simple it is to deploy AND maintain.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At this time, there is NO upgrade or migration path from VIAB to
>>> XenDesktop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/25/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-in-a-box-part-1-setting-up-the-server/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/28/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-in-a-box-part-2-creating-master-image/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just sent Neil an email asking where is part three.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Webster
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
>>>
>>> Subject: OT VDI in a box.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are going to have to go BYOD(oom). There is no escaping it in the
>>> public edu environment. The powers that be look at them as ‘free’ computers.
>>> So we are thinking a virtual desktop environment . One that is accessable
>>> via guest wireless and that can only talk to a few select servers…like their
>>> own user file servers. Then we deliver the appropriate desktop to them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is for students, so we have to assume they are intentionally
>>> malicious/destructive/wanting to hack us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> VDI in a box looks interesting. Rolls easily, runs on Hyper-V which is our
>>> virtualization software of choice….
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Opinions and experiences gang?
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: OT VDI in a box.

[Rankin, James R]

Food parcels would suffice :-)

---Blackberried

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff 
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:20:13 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: OT VDI in a box.

Volunteer == no pay, right? :)

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM, James Rankin  wrote:
> I'll volunteer to work on it :-)
>
>
> On 13 December 2012 22:01, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
>>
>> Just TRY to find someone to work on it! Impossible.
>>
>>
>>
>> I give it a major “down check” just because of that.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:28 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: OT VDI in a box.
>>
>>
>>
>> The bloggers I know personally that have used it love it and extol it
>> praises in how simple it is to deploy AND maintain.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this time, there is NO upgrade or migration path from VIAB to
>> XenDesktop.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/25/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-in-a-box-part-1-setting-up-the-server/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/28/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-in-a-box-part-2-creating-master-image/
>>
>>
>>
>> I just sent Neil an email asking where is part three.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Webster
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
>>
>> Subject: OT VDI in a box.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are going to have to go BYOD(oom). There is no escaping it in the
>> public edu environment. The powers that be look at them as ‘free’ computers.
>> So we are thinking a virtual desktop environment . One that is accessable
>> via guest wireless and that can only talk to a few select servers…like their
>> own user file servers. Then we deliver the appropriate desktop to them.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is for students, so we have to assume they are intentionally
>> malicious/destructive/wanting to hack us.
>>
>>
>>
>> VDI in a box looks interesting. Rolls easily, runs on Hyper-V which is our
>> virtualization software of choice….
>>
>>
>>
>> Opinions and experiences gang?
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
>> ---
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>
>
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Re: OT VDI in a box.

[John Cook]

The real question is can he do it remotely!
John W. Cook
Network Operations Manager
Partnership for Strong Families

- Original Message -
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 06:20 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: OT VDI in a box.

Volunteer == no pay, right? :)

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM, James Rankin  wrote:
> I'll volunteer to work on it :-)
>
>
> On 13 December 2012 22:01, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
>>
>> Just TRY to find someone to work on it! Impossible.
>>
>>
>>
>> I give it a major “down check” just because of that.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:28 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: OT VDI in a box.
>>
>>
>>
>> The bloggers I know personally that have used it love it and extol it
>> praises in how simple it is to deploy AND maintain.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this time, there is NO upgrade or migration path from VIAB to
>> XenDesktop.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/25/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-in-a-box-part-1-setting-up-the-server/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/28/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-in-a-box-part-2-creating-master-image/
>>
>>
>>
>> I just sent Neil an email asking where is part three.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Webster
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
>>
>> Subject: OT VDI in a box.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are going to have to go BYOD(oom). There is no escaping it in the
>> public edu environment. The powers that be look at them as ‘free’ computers.
>> So we are thinking a virtual desktop environment . One that is accessable
>> via guest wireless and that can only talk to a few select servers…like their
>> own user file servers. Then we deliver the appropriate desktop to them.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is for students, so we have to assume they are intentionally
>> malicious/destructive/wanting to hack us.
>>
>>
>>
>> VDI in a box looks interesting. Rolls easily, runs on Hyper-V which is our
>> virtualization software of choice….
>>
>>
>>
>> Opinions and experiences gang?
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
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>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
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>>
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>
>
>
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> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk
>
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Re: OT VDI in a box.

[Kurt Buff]

Volunteer == no pay, right? :)

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM, James Rankin  wrote:
> I'll volunteer to work on it :-)
>
>
> On 13 December 2012 22:01, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
>>
>> Just TRY to find someone to work on it! Impossible.
>>
>>
>>
>> I give it a major “down check” just because of that.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:28 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: OT VDI in a box.
>>
>>
>>
>> The bloggers I know personally that have used it love it and extol it
>> praises in how simple it is to deploy AND maintain.
>>
>>
>>
>> At this time, there is NO upgrade or migration path from VIAB to
>> XenDesktop.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/25/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-in-a-box-part-1-setting-up-the-server/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/28/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-in-a-box-part-2-creating-master-image/
>>
>>
>>
>> I just sent Neil an email asking where is part three.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Webster
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
>>
>> Subject: OT VDI in a box.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are going to have to go BYOD(oom). There is no escaping it in the
>> public edu environment. The powers that be look at them as ‘free’ computers.
>> So we are thinking a virtual desktop environment . One that is accessable
>> via guest wireless and that can only talk to a few select servers…like their
>> own user file servers. Then we deliver the appropriate desktop to them.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is for students, so we have to assume they are intentionally
>> malicious/destructive/wanting to hack us.
>>
>>
>>
>> VDI in a box looks interesting. Rolls easily, runs on Hyper-V which is our
>> virtualization software of choice….
>>
>>
>>
>> Opinions and experiences gang?
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
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>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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>>
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>
>
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Re: OT VDI in a box.

[James Rankin]

I'll volunteer to work on it :-)


On 13 December 2012 22:01, Michael B. Smith  wrote:

>  Just TRY to find someone to work on it! Impossible.
>
> ** **
>
> I give it a major “down check” just because of that.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:28 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: OT VDI in a box.
>
> ** **
>
> The bloggers I know personally that have used it love it and extol it
> praises in how simple it is to deploy AND maintain.
>
> ** **
>
> At this time, there is NO upgrade or migration path from VIAB to
> XenDesktop.
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/25/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-in-a-box-part-1-setting-up-the-server/
> 
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/28/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-in-a-box-part-2-creating-master-image/
> 
>
> ** **
>
> I just sent Neil an email asking where is part three.
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Webster
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim 
> [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
>
> *Subject:* OT VDI in a box.
>
> ** **
>
> We are going to have to go BYOD(oom). There is no escaping it in the
> public edu environment. The powers that be look at them as ‘free’
> computers. So we are thinking a virtual desktop environment . One that is
> accessable via guest wireless and that can only talk to a few select
> servers…like their own user file servers. Then we deliver the appropriate
> desktop to them.
>
> ** **
>
> This is for students, so we have to assume they are intentionally
> malicious/destructive/wanting to hack us.
>
> ** **
>
> VDI in a box looks interesting. Rolls easily, runs on Hyper-V which is our
> virtualization software of choice….
>
> ** **
>
> Opinions and experiences gang?**
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ---
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Re: OT VDI in a box.

[Matthew W. Ross]

We have been looking at VDI in a Box as well, but not as a BYOD solution.

I like BYOD, but I think it's not worth it in the end. If it's a "Bring your 
device, but if it doesn't work then it's your problem," kind of BYOD, I have no 
problems. Otherwise, here are some bullets for shooting down this bad idea:

* Will each student be expected to use the VDI-in-a-Box desktop to use Office?
* Is it expected that the VDI-in-a-Box session will be where the students will 
be content filtered?
* Will students be provided with a device if they cannot afford a laptop? (This 
is a question that often comes up for these kinds of ideas at our school.)
* Will a student with an iPad, iPod touch or Android device have reduces 
productivity vs a computer with a built in keyboard? How will this be 
compensated for?
* Will you be supporting BYOD devices "after hours"? Do you have the staffing 
for such support?
* Is your wireless infrastructure up to the task of the increased workload?
* Do all of your currently supported software program work under a VDI solution?
* Does your school currently have the right to confiscate inappropriate 
material or devices? If you do, how does the student perform the necessary 
tasks without their BYOD?

... And I'm sure I can think of more.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Kennedy, Jim
[mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 13 Dec 2012
12:48:53 -0800
Subject: OT VDI in a box.


> We are going to have to go BYOD(oom). There is no escaping it in the public
> edu environment. The powers that be look at them as 'free' computers. So we
> are thinking a virtual desktop environment . One that is accessable via
> guest wireless and that can only talk to a few select servers...like their
> own user file servers. Then we deliver the appropriate desktop to them.
> 
> This is for students, so we have to assume they are intentionally
> malicious/destructive/wanting to hack us.
> 
> VDI in a box looks interesting. Rolls easily, runs on Hyper-V which is our
> virtualization software of choice
> 
> Opinions and experiences gang?
> 
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> 
> ---
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RE: OT VDI in a box.

[Michael B. Smith]

Just TRY to find someone to work on it! Impossible.

I give it a major "down check" just because of that.

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT VDI in a box.

The bloggers I know personally that have used it love it and extol it praises 
in how simple it is to deploy AND maintain.

At this time, there is NO upgrade or migration path from VIAB to XenDesktop.

http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/25/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-in-a-box-part-1-setting-up-the-server/

http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/28/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-in-a-box-part-2-creating-master-image/

I just sent Neil an email asking where is part three.

Thanks


Webster

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Subject: OT VDI in a box.

We are going to have to go BYOD(oom). There is no escaping it in the public edu 
environment. The powers that be look at them as 'free' computers. So we are 
thinking a virtual desktop environment . One that is accessable via guest 
wireless and that can only talk to a few select servers...like their own user 
file servers. Then we deliver the appropriate desktop to them.

This is for students, so we have to assume they are intentionally 
malicious/destructive/wanting to hack us.

VDI in a box looks interesting. Rolls easily, runs on Hyper-V which is our 
virtualization software of choice

Opinions and experiences gang?

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RE: OT VDI in a box.

[Webster]

The bloggers I know personally that have used it love it and extol it praises 
in how simple it is to deploy AND maintain.

At this time, there is NO upgrade or migration path from VIAB to XenDesktop.

http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/25/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-in-a-box-part-1-setting-up-the-server/

http://neil.spellings.net/2011/09/28/first-look-at-citrix-kaviza-vdi-in-a-box-part-2-creating-master-image/

I just sent Neil an email asking where is part three.

Thanks


Webster

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Subject: OT VDI in a box.

We are going to have to go BYOD(oom). There is no escaping it in the public edu 
environment. The powers that be look at them as 'free' computers. So we are 
thinking a virtual desktop environment . One that is accessable via guest 
wireless and that can only talk to a few select servers...like their own user 
file servers. Then we deliver the appropriate desktop to them.

This is for students, so we have to assume they are intentionally 
malicious/destructive/wanting to hack us.

VDI in a box looks interesting. Rolls easily, runs on Hyper-V which is our 
virtualization software of choice

Opinions and experiences gang?

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Re: OT VDI in a box.

[James Rankin]

Do you really need VIAB? Will a published desktop via Citrix XenApp or RDS
not suffice? The Citrix Receiver runs on gazillions of devices these days,
couple it with WI or Storefront and you can deploy apps and published
desktops to a massive amount of BYO devices.

I've seen so many unnecessary VDI implementations it's unbelievable...

VIAB is very easy to set up and scalable, FWIW, but it might not be
strictly what you require.


On 13 December 2012 20:48, Kennedy, Jim wrote:

>  We are going to have to go BYOD(oom). There is no escaping it in the
> public edu environment. The powers that be look at them as ‘free’
> computers. So we are thinking a virtual desktop environment . One that is
> accessable via guest wireless and that can only talk to a few select
> servers…like their own user file servers. Then we deliver the appropriate
> desktop to them.
>
> ** **
>
> This is for students, so we have to assume they are intentionally
> malicious/destructive/wanting to hack us.
>
> ** **
>
> VDI in a box looks interesting. Rolls easily, runs on Hyper-V which is our
> virtualization software of choice….
>
> ** **
>
> Opinions and experiences gang?**
>
> ** **
>
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RE: VDI in a Box?

[Ryan Finnesey]

We keep getting pushed to the LAR witch is Dell. 

-Original Message-
From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 12:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You'd want the account manager or their attached ATS to help there - TAMs are 
for premier support and PAM is for partners. 

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-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 3:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You shouldn't have to worry about that. Seriously. Get your TAM or PAM to quote 
it to you.

Licensing for VDI with SC2012SP1 should be simpler, but I think it's still NDA, 
so I can't say anything.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 5:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

I am really keen to implement  a bring your own device model and offer hosted 
desktops but I am having a hell of a time working  out the licensing 
requirements.  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

No, sorry. "Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012" was the official 
word, I believe.

But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the 
software now.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

SP1 has been released?  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very 
slick!

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI in a Box?

Hey list.

We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple 
question for you:

What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI 
solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome.


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RE: VDI in a Box?

[Ryan Finnesey]

We keep getting conflicting   information.I feel they do not understand the 
EA/custom licensing agreement  and the fact we are trying BYOD.  they cannot 
seem to understand there is no corporate desktop in the mx so there is no "SA 
benefit" we can use.  The good news is that we do not need to focus on VDI till 
Dec/Jan  right now the focus is CRM but it would be nice to budget for VDI now.

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 4:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You shouldn't have to worry about that. Seriously. Get your TAM or PAM to quote 
it to you.

Licensing for VDI with SC2012SP1 should be simpler, but I think it's still NDA, 
so I can't say anything.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 5:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

I am really keen to implement  a bring your own device model and offer hosted 
desktops but I am having a hell of a time working  out the licensing 
requirements.  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

No, sorry. "Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012" was the official 
word, I believe.

But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the 
software now.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

SP1 has been released?  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very 
slick!

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI in a Box?

Hey list.

We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple 
question for you:

What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI 
solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome.


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RE: VDI in a Box?

[Brian Desmond]

You'd want the account manager or their attached ATS to help there - TAMs are 
for premier support and PAM is for partners. 

Thanks,
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br...@briandesmond.com

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-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 3:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You shouldn't have to worry about that. Seriously. Get your TAM or PAM to quote 
it to you.

Licensing for VDI with SC2012SP1 should be simpler, but I think it's still NDA, 
so I can't say anything.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 5:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

I am really keen to implement  a bring your own device model and offer hosted 
desktops but I am having a hell of a time working  out the licensing 
requirements.  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

No, sorry. "Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012" was the official 
word, I believe.

But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the 
software now.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

SP1 has been released?  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very 
slick!

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI in a Box?

Hey list.

We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple 
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What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI 
solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome.


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RE: VDI in a Box?

[Michael B. Smith]

You shouldn't have to worry about that. Seriously. Get your TAM or PAM to quote 
it to you.

Licensing for VDI with SC2012SP1 should be simpler, but I think it's still NDA, 
so I can't say anything.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 5:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

I am really keen to implement  a bring your own device model and offer hosted 
desktops but I am having a hell of a time working  out the licensing 
requirements.  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

No, sorry. "Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012" was the official 
word, I believe.

But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the 
software now.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

SP1 has been released?  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very 
slick!

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI in a Box?

Hey list.

We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple 
question for you:

What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI 
solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome.


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Ephrata School District

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RE: VDI in a Box?

[Ryan Finnesey]

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

No, sorry. "Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012" was the official 
word, I believe.

But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the 
software now.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

SP1 has been released?  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very 
slick!

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI in a Box?

Hey list.

We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple 
question for you:

What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI 
solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

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RE: VDI in a Box?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Mostly around Microsoft licensing for VDI and the VDA subscription and CSL 
subscription.  I have not even looked  to deeply into Citrix yet.  I need to 
determine if it will add value.  

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VDI in a Box?

For System Center stuff? Or Citrix?

I do a hell of a lot of BYO stuff but its all Citrix-centric

---Blackberried

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey 
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 22:20:07
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

I am really keen to implement  a bring your own device model and offer hosted 
desktops but I am having a hell of a time working  out the licensing 
requirements.  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

No, sorry. "Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012" was the official 
word, I believe.

But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the 
software now.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

SP1 has been released?  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very 
slick!

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI in a Box?

Hey list.

We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple 
question for you:

What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI 
solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome.


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Re: VDI in a Box?

[Rankin, James R]

For System Center stuff? Or Citrix?

I do a hell of a lot of BYO stuff but its all Citrix-centric

---Blackberried

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey 
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 22:20:07 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

I am really keen to implement  a bring your own device model and offer hosted 
desktops but I am having a hell of a time working  out the licensing 
requirements.  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

No, sorry. "Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012" was the official 
word, I believe.

But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the 
software now.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

SP1 has been released?  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very 
slick!

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI in a Box?

Hey list.

We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple 
question for you:

What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI 
solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome.


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RE: VDI in a Box?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I am really keen to implement  a bring your own device model and offer hosted 
desktops but I am having a hell of a time working  out the licensing 
requirements.  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

No, sorry. "Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012" was the official 
word, I believe.

But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the 
software now.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

SP1 has been released?  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very 
slick!

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI in a Box?

Hey list.

We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple 
question for you:

What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI 
solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome.


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RE: VDI in a Box?

[Michael B. Smith]

No, sorry. "Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012" was the official 
word, I believe.

But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the 
software now.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

SP1 has been released?  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very 
slick!

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI in a Box?

Hey list.

We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple 
question for you:

What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI 
solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome.


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RE: VDI in a Box?

[rodtrent]

Not yet. “rumored” to be first of 2013.



Sent from Windows Mail


From: Ryan Finnesey
Sent: ‎November‎ ‎6‎, ‎2012 ‎8‎:‎28‎ ‎PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?


SP1 has been released?  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very 
slick!

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI in a Box?

Hey list.

We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple 
question for you:

What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI 
solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome.


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RE: VDI in a Box?

[Ryan Finnesey]

SP1 has been released?  

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI in a Box?

You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very 
slick!

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI in a Box?

Hey list.

We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple 
question for you:

What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI 
solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome.


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RE: VDI in a Box?

[Michael B. Smith]

You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very 
slick!

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI in a Box?

Hey list.

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What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI 
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Re: VDI in a Box?

[James Rankin]

One final point - don't forget that XenApp ("traditional" Citrix, as it
were) can provide a lot of the "VDI" features through a published desktop.
I've seen many places looking at VDI solutions that didn't consider
published desktops in XenApp. A lot of these implementations didn't need
VDI (either VIAB or XenDesktop) - XenApp ticked most of the boxes they
required, and it worked out considerably cheaper.

On 6 November 2012 16:59, Matthew W. Ross  wrote:

> Hey list.
>
> We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple
> question for you:
>
> What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI
> solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
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Re: VDI in a Box?

[James Rankin]

Ease of deployment and expansion. If you use the Dell stuff along with
VDI-In-A-Box, you basically just buy what you need, stand it up and add
more as necessary. It's dead easy to get it set up and running - hence the
name.

However - there is currently no migration process between the higher-end
VDI solutions that Citrix offer (XenDesktop) and VDI-In-A-Box. So if you
start with VIAB and decide you need the better management tools and
features of XenDesktop, you'd have to rip VIAB out and start again. But
VIAB is not just for "small" deployments and XenDesktop for large ones - it
just depends on the features you require. I've seen big deployments of VIAB
and small implementations of XenDesktop.

It really depends on how complex you envisage your VDI infrastructure
getting. If you are deploying a standard image and don't need a lot of
persistent desktops, VIAB may fit your needs well. It's ridiculously easy
to add more grids and expand the deployment. But there's also a price
difference to take into account that may or may not be suitable for you
dependent on other Citrix licenses you may possess.

I think Citrix should have a matrix of features between the two somewhere.
This may give you an overview of these two and some others as well

http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/rubenspruijt/archive/2012/08/24/smackdown-your-vdesktop-head-to-head-analysis-of-citrix-xendesktop-microsoft-vdi-remotefx-quest-vworkspace-and-vmware-view.aspx

On 6 November 2012 16:59, Matthew W. Ross  wrote:

> Hey list.
>
> We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple
> question for you:
>
> What the difference between Citrix's "VDI-in-a-Box" vs traditional VDI
> solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
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>
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>


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re: Another new-ish angle on VDI

[Juned Shaikh]

Citrix licensing is getting crazier as competition is increasing. Last 
conversation with our sales rep, the CCU or concurrent licensing model is out.. 
Now you had to buy fixed licenses. There are so many twist and turns to 
licensing I don't understand if Citrix is serious about selling VDI solution. 

I believe some of their recent shrink wrapped offering have started trickling 
in the acquisition of Kaviza, whose motto was "VDI in a box"


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Re: Another new-ish angle on VDI

[Webster]

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/cisco-to-resell-citrix-xendesktop-to-deliver-virtual-workspaces-anywhere-on-any-device-20120213-00329



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From: James Rankin mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>>
Reply-To: NT Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:31:55 +
To: NT Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: Another new-ish angle on VDI

Oooh. Is that to run on UCS? Sounds funky (and possibly expensive)

On 28 February 2012 16:16, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
Citrix also did a similar deal with Cisco not to many days ago.



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mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:01:55 +
To: NT Issues 
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Subject: Another new-ish angle on VDI

http://blogs.citrix.com/2012/02/27/dell-and-citrix-just-blew-the-lid-off-desktop-virtualization/


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Re: Another new-ish angle on VDI

[James Rankin]

Oooh. Is that to run on UCS? Sounds funky (and possibly expensive)

On 28 February 2012 16:16, Webster  wrote:

>   Citrix also did a similar deal with Cisco not to many days ago.
>
>
>Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>
>   From: James Rankin 
> Reply-To: NT Issues 
> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:01:55 +
> To: NT Issues 
> Subject: Another new-ish angle on VDI
>
>
> http://blogs.citrix.com/2012/02/27/dell-and-citrix-just-blew-the-lid-off-desktop-virtualization/
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Re: Another new-ish angle on VDI

[Webster]

Citrix also did a similar deal with Cisco not to many days ago.



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Re: Another new-ish angle on VDI

[Andrew S. Baker]

Let's revisit in another 6 months.   Everyone promises seamless deployment
of everything without having to put a whole lot of planning into it, but
reality doesn't always buy that argument.

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Another new-ish angle on VDI

[James Rankin]

http://blogs.citrix.com/2012/02/27/dell-and-citrix-just-blew-the-lid-off-desktop-virtualization/


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RE: VDI

[Kelsey, John]

Most of the clients are just old PCs running windows legacy fundamentals.  Yes, 
we have a vcenter box, which is just a virtual machine with the mgmt goodies 
loaded on it.  All of the desktops are scattered across various offices 
connected through VPNs.

From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VDI

What kind of thin clients are you using at the desktop? Are you using vcenter 
to deploy updates and patches to the View desktops? All 400 desktops are on a 
LAN or do you have some connecting via WAN?

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Kelsey, John 
mailto:jckel...@drmc.org>> wrote:
We’re using GE Centricity in our practices and went with VMware View for our 
desktops.  So far we’re very pleased with it, running about 400 desktops now.  
It sure makes doing updates and patches and whole lot easier and faster.  We 
can re-deploy all of the desktops in just a few hours.

Thanks
JCK

From: pdw1...@hotmail.com<mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com> 
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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:09 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI

Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
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RE: VDI

[N Parr]

Now we have the exact opposite experience.  We were feeding 3-4 sessions over 
DSL for over a year and it worked just fine.  DSL on both ends, which means we 
only had about 1 meg upload speed.  Now that we have 50/25 fiber at the 
"mothership" it's that much better.  I even have engineers using CAD apps on 
view desktops remotely in a pinch.  And we're sill running 4.6.


From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI

PCoIP is still rubbish when used over an ASDL type service via VPN back to the 
mothership.  I have to use it twice a week remotely and it is extra laggy.

Maybe it is the company trying to tell me they don't want me working from home!

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 14 December 2011 18:40
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VDI

I wasn't keen on View for remote users. YMMV, but I found PCoIP rubbish 
remotely. Things may have improved.
Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

From: 
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: VDI

I agree, Harry.  I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it 
yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution.

Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500
Subject: Re: VDI
From: hbo...@gmail.com<mailto:hbo...@gmail.com>
To: 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>

I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you 
looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution?

http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437

I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM 
and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which 
ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, 
for you.

Harry.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, 
mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
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RE: VDI

[Matthew B Ames]

PCoIP is still rubbish when used over an ASDL type service via VPN back to the 
mothership.  I have to use it twice a week remotely and it is extra laggy.

Maybe it is the company trying to tell me they don't want me working from home!

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 14 December 2011 18:40
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VDI

I wasn't keen on View for remote users. YMMV, but I found PCoIP rubbish 
remotely. Things may have improved.
Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

From: 
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: VDI

I agree, Harry.  I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it 
yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution.

Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500
Subject: Re: VDI
From: hbo...@gmail.com<mailto:hbo...@gmail.com>
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ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>

I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you 
looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution?

http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437

I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM 
and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which 
ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, 
for you.

Harry.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, 
mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
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Re: VDI

[Webster]

No they have not improved!



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From: James Rankin mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>>
Reply-To: NT Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:39:31 +
To: NT Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: Re: VDI

I wasn't keen on View for remote users. YMMV, but I found PCoIP rubbish 
remotely. Things may have improved.
Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

From: mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com>>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 -0500
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
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Subject: RE: VDI

I agree, Harry.  I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it 
yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution.

____
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500
Subject: Re: VDI
From: hbo...@gmail.com<mailto:hbo...@gmail.com>
To: 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>

I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you 
looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution?

http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437

I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM 
and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which 
ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, 
for you.

Harry.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, 
mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone.
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RE: VDI

[Garcia-Moran, Carlos]

+1 on View, we have about 75 desktops (XP and W7) with the basic view client 
setup, Easy to deploy, configure and manage. It helps If you already have a 
vSphere infrastructure and knowledge in place, but you can get some pretty good 
deals on a view package.

Thx!

CGM

From: Kelsey, John [mailto:jckel...@drmc.org]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VDI

We're using GE Centricity in our practices and went with VMware View for our 
desktops.  So far we're very pleased with it, running about 400 desktops now.  
It sure makes doing updates and patches and whole lot easier and faster.  We 
can re-deploy all of the desktops in just a few hours.

Thanks
JCK

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[mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]>
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Subject: VDI

Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
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Re: VDI

[Harry Singh]

What kind of thin clients are you using at the desktop? Are you using
vcenter to deploy updates and patches to the View desktops? All 400
desktops are on a LAN or do you have some connecting via WAN?

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Kelsey, John  wrote:

> We’re using GE Centricity in our practices and went with VMware View for
> our desktops.  So far we’re very pleased with it, running about 400
> desktops now.  It sure makes doing updates and patches and whole lot easier
> and faster.  We can re-deploy all of the desktops in just a few hours.  **
> **
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks
>
> JCK
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:09 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* VDI
>
> ** **
>
> Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we
> looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified
> three:  Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to
> be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec).
> I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I
> have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has
> anybody done any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good
> compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on
> price alone.  
>
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Re: VDI

[Webster]

Here it is:

http://www.infoworld.com/d/virtualization/vdi-shoot-out-citrix-xendesktop-vs-vmware-view-181691?source=IFWNLE_nlt_daily_2011-12-14



Carl Webster

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From: mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com>>
Reply-To: NT Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 -0500
To: NT Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: VDI

I agree, Harry.  I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it 
yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution.


Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500
Subject: Re: VDI
From: hbo...@gmail.com<mailto:hbo...@gmail.com>
To: 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>

I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you 
looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution?

http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437

I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM 
and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which 
ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, 
for you.

Harry.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, 
mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone.
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Re: VDI

[Rankin, James R]

I wasn't keen on View for remote users. YMMV, but I found PCoIP rubbish 
remotely. Things may have improved.

Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird

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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 
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Subject: RE: VDI


I agree, Harry.  I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it 
yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution.

Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500
Subject: Re: VDI
From: hbo...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you 
looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution?
http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437

I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM 
and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which 
ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, 
for you.

Harry.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM,   wrote:






Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).

I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone.  

  
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Re: VDI

[Webster]

I think Infoworld just did a comparison of XenDesktop and View.



Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com>>
Reply-To: NT Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 -0500
To: NT Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: VDI

I agree, Harry.  I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it 
yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution.


Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500
Subject: Re: VDI
From: hbo...@gmail.com<mailto:hbo...@gmail.com>
To: 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>

I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you 
looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution?

http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437

I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM 
and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which 
ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, 
for you.

Harry.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, 
mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone.
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Re: VDI

[Harry Singh]

If you already have VMware in your backend, they make pricing very
competitive. Especially for the number of desktops you're planning on
deploying.

Disclaimer: The thought of a Symantec product doing VDI just seems to leave
a bad taste in my mouth. But that's just my own biased opinion based on no
prior information or experience with the product or its capabilities at all.

harry.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:42 PM,  wrote:

>  I agree, Harry.  I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote
> on it yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution.
>
> --
> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500
> Subject: Re: VDI
> From: hbo...@gmail.com
> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
>
>
> I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have
> you looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution?
>
> http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437
>
> I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either
> VM and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space.
> Which ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or
> otherwise, for you.
>
> Harry.
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM,  wrote:
>
>  Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we
> looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified
> three:  Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to
> be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec).
> I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I
> have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has
> anybody done any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good
> compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on
> price alone.
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>
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RE: VDI

[Kelsey, John]

We're using GE Centricity in our practices and went with VMware View for our 
desktops.  So far we're very pleased with it, running about 400 desktops now.  
It sure makes doing updates and patches and whole lot easier and faster.  We 
can re-deploy all of the desktops in just a few hours.

Thanks
JCK

From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VDI

Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
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RE: VDI

[pdw1914]

I agree, Harry.  I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it 
yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution.

Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500
Subject: Re: VDI
From: hbo...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you 
looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution?
http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437

I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM 
and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which 
ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, 
for you.

Harry.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM,   wrote:






Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).

I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone.  

  
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RE: VDI

[pdw1914]

Initial deployment would be around 100 users and a possibility of 50-80 RAS 
users.
Thanks for the reminder about Brian Madden.  I forgot all about that site.

Subject: Re: VDI
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
From: kz2...@googlemail.com
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:37:39 +







I have never used the Symantec solution, but XenDesktop and View are the most 
popular. However for a small amount of users the complexity of XenDesktop is 
quite high. VDI-in-a-box is the less complex Citrix solution, but as yet there 
is no easy upgrade path from VIAB to Xen should you need it.

Brian Madden's website has some good comparisons of VDI products and other 
virtualisation software.
Sent from my SR-71 BlackbirdFrom:  
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:09:06 -0500To: NT System Admin 
IssuesReplyTo:  "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: VDI

Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone.  
  
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Re: VDI

[Rankin, James R]

I have never used the Symantec solution, but XenDesktop and View are the most 
popular. However for a small amount of users the complexity of XenDesktop is 
quite high. VDI-in-a-box is the less complex Citrix solution, but as yet there 
is no easy upgrade path from VIAB to Xen should you need it.

Brian Madden's website has some good comparisons of VDI products and other 
virtualisation software.

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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:09:06 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: VDI


Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone.  
  
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Re: VDI

[Harry Singh]

I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you
looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution?

http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437

I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either
VM and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space.
Which ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or
otherwise, for you.

Harry.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM,  wrote:

>  Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we
> looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified
> three:  Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to
> be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec).
> I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I
> have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has
> anybody done any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good
> compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on
> price alone.
>
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VDI

[pdw1914]

Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking 
at implementing a virtual desktop solution.  I have identified three:  Citrix, 
VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until 
it was bought out by Symantec).
I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no 
knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS.  Has anybody done 
any work with the Symantec product?  The price is good compared to the other 
two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone.  
  
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Re: MS VDI client OS question

[Dean Cunningham]

in that pdf link

 Access to a virtual copy of Windowsclient OS (Windows 7, Windows Vista,
Windows XP) in the datacenter

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Re: MS VDI client OS question

[Dean Cunningham]

http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/8/4/78480C7D-DC7E-492E-8567-F5DD5644774D/VDA_Brochure.pdf
any help?

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Oliver Marshall <
oliver.marsh...@g2support.com> wrote:

>  Hi Chaps,
>
> ** **
>
> Can anyone confirm for me whether the MS implementation of VDI supports
> only Windows 7 as the client? That’s what I’m getting from reading some of
> the sites, and that non-7 OS’s are supported via a web based version. This
> then leads me to wonder what requirements are there for the web browser on
> these non-7 clients, and whether older clients or non-MS clients will work.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Anyone know?
>
> ** **
>
> Olly
>
> 
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Re: Thin Client For VDI

[Brian Webb]

The company I just left (not voluntarily...) was using the Sun Ray thin clients 
with VMWare - we had to make sure we were on supported versions, but it 
definately works.
 Brian Webb
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, things aren't going to get 
better -- they're not." -- Dr. Seuss in the Lorax 



- Original Message 
From: Robert Jackson 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:48:10 AM
Subject: Thin Client For VDI

Just looking for some information from those of you who have VDI 
environments. We're in the process of running some Capacity Planning for
a VMware purchase.

The next stage for us would be to factor in a VDI environment and I was
wondering what thin client hardware was in use in the real world?

We've had a look at Sun's offerings of their Sun Ray thin clients.
Although
the back end was Sun's xVM virtualisation solution, I was really
impressed by
the Sun Ray 270 Client. Don't know specifically if it would work in a
VMware
environment, but liked the idea of a smart card to operate it.


Regards,
Rab.
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RE: Thin Client For VDI

[Michael DeBakey]

We are using about 160 WYSE thin clients with VMware View 3. We have a few more 
challenges due to the fact that we use a lot of flash in our environment 
(K-12), so we have had some hiccups. I have heard good things about HP thin 
clients as well. If you would like any more specifics please feel free to get 
in touch.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Robert Jackson [mailto:r...@walkermartyn.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Thin Client For VDI

Just looking for some information from those of you who have VDI 
environments. We're in the process of running some Capacity Planning for
a VMware purchase.

The next stage for us would be to factor in a VDI environment and I was
wondering what thin client hardware was in use in the real world?

We've had a look at Sun's offerings of their Sun Ray thin clients.
Although
the back end was Sun's xVM virtualisation solution, I was really
impressed by
the Sun Ray 270 Client. Don't know specifically if it would work in a
VMware
 environment, but liked the idea of a smart card to operate it.


Regards,
Rab.
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RE: Thin Client For VDI

[Garcia-Moran, Carlos]

We use DevonIT thin clients, last year's models we bought in bulk, the
can do Native VDM client amongst other things, plus the have Dual DVI
monitor support, about $250 a unit

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thin Client For VDI

 

We are using a mixture of Chip PCs and Extreme PCs with Excalibur and
VMWare View.

The POE Chips are very unreliable using VMWare View. The Extreme PCs run
superbly.

2009/8/19 Robert Jackson 

Just looking for some information from those of you who have VDI
environments. We're in the process of running some Capacity Planning for
a VMware purchase.

The next stage for us would be to factor in a VDI environment and I was
wondering what thin client hardware was in use in the real world?

We've had a look at Sun's offerings of their Sun Ray thin clients.
Although
the back end was Sun's xVM virtualisation solution, I was really
impressed by
the Sun Ray 270 Client. Don't know specifically if it would work in a
VMware
 environment, but liked the idea of a smart card to operate it.


Regards,
Rab.
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Re: Thin Client For VDI

[James Rankin]

We are using a mixture of Chip PCs and Extreme PCs with Excalibur and VMWare
View.

The POE Chips are very unreliable using VMWare View. The Extreme PCs run
superbly.

2009/8/19 Robert Jackson 

> Just looking for some information from those of you who have VDI
> environments. We're in the process of running some Capacity Planning for
> a VMware purchase.
>
> The next stage for us would be to factor in a VDI environment and I was
> wondering what thin client hardware was in use in the real world?
>
> We've had a look at Sun's offerings of their Sun Ray thin clients.
> Although
> the back end was Sun's xVM virtualisation solution, I was really
> impressed by
> the Sun Ray 270 Client. Don't know specifically if it would work in a
> VMware
>  environment, but liked the idea of a smart card to operate it.
>
>
> Regards,
> Rab.
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> 7999
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> 2820
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Thin Client For VDI

[Robert Jackson]

Just looking for some information from those of you who have VDI 
environments. We're in the process of running some Capacity Planning for
a VMware purchase.

The next stage for us would be to factor in a VDI environment and I was
wondering what thin client hardware was in use in the real world?

We've had a look at Sun's offerings of their Sun Ray thin clients.
Although
the back end was Sun's xVM virtualisation solution, I was really
impressed by
the Sun Ray 270 Client. Don't know specifically if it would work in a
VMware
 environment, but liked the idea of a smart card to operate it.


Regards,
Rab.
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RE: VMware VDI?

[Craig Gauss]

Problem solved and I feel like an idiot.  I forgot to install the View
client on the template machine.  Ugh!
 



From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMware VDI?


Is it set to get an IP address via DHCP?


2009/3/24 Craig Gauss 


We are looking at possibly implementing VDI for a large
deployment of
new machines.  Just wondering if anyone is well versed in the
ways of
VDI?  I am having sort of an odd issue.  Waiting for a
consultant to
call me back about it but it is bugging me and just want to
solve the
issue.


Added a VLAN to our VM infrastructure.
Created my template machine in that VLAN.
Released the IP address.
Powered down.
Created my snapshot.
Created my VDI pool and the first machine builds.

When I try to connect I can not and the VDI console is showing
Time Out
during customization.

I can ping the machine by IP address but not name and I am
guessing that
is why the customization is timing out.

Any ideas?

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RE: VMware VDI?

[Craig Gauss]

Yes and it gets an IP.
 

Craig Gauss,  Technical Supervisor/Security Officer
Riverview Hospital Association
Phone: 715-423-6060 ext. 8572


 



From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMware VDI?


Is it set to get an IP address via DHCP?


2009/3/24 Craig Gauss 


We are looking at possibly implementing VDI for a large
deployment of
new machines.  Just wondering if anyone is well versed in the
ways of
VDI?  I am having sort of an odd issue.  Waiting for a
consultant to
call me back about it but it is bugging me and just want to
solve the
issue.


Added a VLAN to our VM infrastructure.
Created my template machine in that VLAN.
Released the IP address.
Powered down.
Created my snapshot.
Created my VDI pool and the first machine builds.

When I try to connect I can not and the VDI console is showing
Time Out
during customization.

I can ping the machine by IP address but not name and I am
guessing that
is why the customization is timing out.

Any ideas?

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog!
~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~




 

 


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Re: VMware VDI?

[James Rankin]

Is it set to get an IP address via DHCP?

2009/3/24 Craig Gauss 

> We are looking at possibly implementing VDI for a large deployment of
> new machines.  Just wondering if anyone is well versed in the ways of
> VDI?  I am having sort of an odd issue.  Waiting for a consultant to
> call me back about it but it is bugging me and just want to solve the
> issue.
>
>
> Added a VLAN to our VM infrastructure.
> Created my template machine in that VLAN.
> Released the IP address.
> Powered down.
> Created my snapshot.
> Created my VDI pool and the first machine builds.
>
> When I try to connect I can not and the VDI console is showing Time Out
> during customization.
>
> I can ping the machine by IP address but not name and I am guessing that
> is why the customization is timing out.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
>

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VMware VDI?

[Craig Gauss]

We are looking at possibly implementing VDI for a large deployment of
new machines.  Just wondering if anyone is well versed in the ways of
VDI?  I am having sort of an odd issue.  Waiting for a consultant to
call me back about it but it is bugging me and just want to solve the
issue.
 
 
Added a VLAN to our VM infrastructure.  
Created my template machine in that VLAN.  
Released the IP address.  
Powered down.  
Created my snapshot.  
Created my VDI pool and the first machine builds.
 
When I try to connect I can not and the VDI console is showing Time Out
during customization.
 
I can ping the machine by IP address but not name and I am guessing that
is why the customization is timing out.  
 
Any ideas?

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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~