Re: color printer???
On 15 Apr 2008 at 10:29, Phillip Partipilo wrote: The crayon printers? Those do put out fantastic color prints, but do scratch. I have always wondered if you could get away with putting actual Crayola crayons into them, their sticks dont seem too far off from them. FWIW the wax ink melts in Tucson during the summer if you leave anything printed in your car, leaving you with a block of paper instead of something useful. Also, the local copy-shops won't copy stuff printed with this as it tends to deposit on the hot rollers in their document-feed copiers. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +---+ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: color printer???
Have you looked at the Xerox (tektronix) Phaser ? I've got an 8500 at home, and it's pretty flexible for paper types, and the phase change wax ink will print on damn near anything. And with very good quality. I've got the DN, it includes a duplexer and ethernet port (along with USB) Anyone else using the Phaser with either good or bad experiences to report ? _ From: Adam Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: color printer??? OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1377 - Release Date: 4/14/2008 9:26 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: color printer???
Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, REALLY ? I had a Samsung CLP-500, and yeah, it cost under $300 for the printer new, but replacement toner cartridges run about $425 for the set of 4 (CMYK) -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: color printer??? Referring to what, the Xerox nightmares or the cheap Samsungs? Xerox Phaser 7700, in about 6 or 7 years, two hard drives dead at about $1000 each, parts and labor, for a 2.5 4gb notebook hard disk drive formatted something proprietary (tried attaching it to a PC to see what they were all about, no dice). Required four separate print cartridges that lasted about 24,000 pages each, and a full set of four was close to $1000. I also believe the printer was full of $h** due to the chip on the cartridges that tell the printer to stop using them. Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, uses one single print cartridge that is also about $100... Oh yeah, and the toners are not chipped so you can refill them to your hearts content with generic color toner. Screw Xerox. (IMHO) Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? I guess i wouldnt know, as all my printers are covered by maintenance contracts. But can you give specifics as to what yu are referring to? FWIW, I've had less failures with my two Xerox phasers, but i have a lot more HP's, so... but nothing not covered and billable to me. On 4/15/08, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6NjAzNTU4Nzg3On BqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: color printer???
It certainly has nothing to do with the technology used in the printer; Ah, but it surely does !!! ( I know, don't call you Shirley ) ... It originally stood for Phase Change , the SOLID ink stick is vaporized to sputter the paper (hence the phase change from solid to liquid) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? On 4/15/08, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ? Dont get mixed up in the marketing labeling: phaser = solid ink offset printing Phaser is a brand name trademarked by Tektronix for their solid ink printers. (Xerox bought the line from them.) I don't know, but I've always assumed it came about just because it rhymed with laser and reminded people of Star Trek. It certainly has nothing to do with the technology used in the printer; it doesn't use an actual phaser. (There really is something called a phaser. Outside of Star Trek, I mean. They're used in digital signal processing. Some of our test equipment have them.) Xerox has started using Phaser for printers that don't use solid ink. There's nothing technologically incorrect about that, since Phaser was never anything more than a brand name in the first place. laser = toner ionization and fusing The original laser printers really did use lasers. Some newer ones use an array of high-intensity LEDs; I dunno if those technically qualify as lasers. But both types work on the same electrophotographic process that old-school copiers (non-digital) used. The difference is, rather than reflecting a light off an original, the printers directly imprint the image on the photo drum by controlling the light from the laser or LED array. -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: color printer???
Phaser is a brand name trademarked by Tektronix for their solid ink printers. (Xerox bought the line from them.) I don't know, but I've always assumed it came about just because it rhymed with laser and reminded people of Star Trek. They had laser Phasers long before Xerox bought them, I recall buying one around 1995, maybe 96. I am sure they were lasers, my Dad was a Xerox man. I spent a little while with them myself. The original laser printers really did use lasers. Some newer ones use an array of high-intensity LEDs; I dunno if those technically qualify as lasers. Usually a LED printer is listed as just that, if isn't a Laser printer. Check out the link to the Xerox line of printers. Most are laser, some solid ink and there is one listed as a LED printer. I don't know if LED is better then laser though, I've seen some cheap LED printers in my time. http://www.office.xerox.com/printers/color-printers/enus.html James ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: color printer???
I've disassembled quite a few laser printers in the past years, the oldest being a HP Laserjet II, and it used a LED diode laser, I would imagine it would be rather rare to find one with a HeNe tube in it. So what exactly would they mean differentiating the printer as LED? James Kerr wrote: Phaser is a brand name trademarked by Tektronix for their solid ink printers. (Xerox bought the line from them.) I don't know, but I've always assumed it came about just because it rhymed with laser and reminded people of Star Trek. They had laser Phasers long before Xerox bought them, I recall buying one around 1995, maybe 96. I am sure they were lasers, my Dad was a Xerox man. I spent a little while with them myself. The original laser printers really did use lasers. Some newer ones use an array of high-intensity LEDs; I dunno if those technically qualify as lasers. Usually a LED printer is listed as just that, if isn't a Laser printer. Check out the link to the Xerox line of printers. Most are laser, some solid ink and there is one listed as a LED printer. I don't know if LED is better then laser though, I've seen some cheap LED printers in my time. http://www.office.xerox.com/printers/color-printers/enus.html James ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6NjA0NjE0MzQ3OnBqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: color printer???
Well, not genuine toners, generics are like 30 bucks each for that printer (they arent terribly large cartridges nor very sophisticated, just a plastic dumptruck for the most part) Erik Goldoff wrote: Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, REALLY ? I had a Samsung CLP-500, and yeah, it cost under $300 for the printer new, but replacement toner cartridges run about $425 for the set of 4 (CMYK) -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: color printer??? Referring to what, the Xerox nightmares or the cheap Samsungs? Xerox Phaser 7700, in about 6 or 7 years, two hard drives dead at about $1000 each, parts and labor, for a 2.5 4gb notebook hard disk drive formatted something proprietary (tried attaching it to a PC to see what they were all about, no dice). Required four separate print cartridges that lasted about 24,000 pages each, and a full set of four was close to $1000. I also believe the printer was full of $h** due to the chip on the cartridges that tell the printer to stop using them. Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, uses one single print cartridge that is also about $100... Oh yeah, and the toners are not chipped so you can refill them to your hearts content with generic color toner. Screw Xerox. (IMHO) Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? I guess i wouldnt know, as all my printers are covered by maintenance contracts. But can you give specifics as to what yu are referring to? FWIW, I've had less failures with my two Xerox phasers, but i have a lot more HP's, so... but nothing not covered and billable to me. On 4/15/08, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6NjAzNTU4Nzg3On BqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6NjA0NTc1NTEyOnBqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: color printer???
Care to share your source, I couldn't find much for the CLP-500 much below OEM pricing ? Thanks -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? Well, not genuine toners, generics are like 30 bucks each for that printer (they arent terribly large cartridges nor very sophisticated, just a plastic dumptruck for the most part) Erik Goldoff wrote: Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, REALLY ? I had a Samsung CLP-500, and yeah, it cost under $300 for the printer new, but replacement toner cartridges run about $425 for the set of 4 (CMYK) -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: color printer??? Referring to what, the Xerox nightmares or the cheap Samsungs? Xerox Phaser 7700, in about 6 or 7 years, two hard drives dead at about $1000 each, parts and labor, for a 2.5 4gb notebook hard disk drive formatted something proprietary (tried attaching it to a PC to see what they were all about, no dice). Required four separate print cartridges that lasted about 24,000 pages each, and a full set of four was close to $1000. I also believe the printer was full of $h** due to the chip on the cartridges that tell the printer to stop using them. Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, uses one single print cartridge that is also about $100... Oh yeah, and the toners are not chipped so you can refill them to your hearts content with generic color toner. Screw Xerox. (IMHO) Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? I guess i wouldnt know, as all my printers are covered by maintenance contracts. But can you give specifics as to what yu are referring to? FWIW, I've had less failures with my two Xerox phasers, but i have a lot more HP's, so... but nothing not covered and billable to me. On 4/15/08, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6NjAzNTU4 Nzg3On BqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6NjA0NTc1 NTEyOnBqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam
Re: color printer???
LED printers have a whole bunch of LEDs the width of the drum. Laser printers just have the one laser. AFAIK. James - Original Message - From: Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: color printer??? I've disassembled quite a few laser printers in the past years, the oldest being a HP Laserjet II, and it used a LED diode laser, I would imagine it would be rather rare to find one with a HeNe tube in it. So what exactly would they mean differentiating the printer as LED? James Kerr wrote: Phaser is a brand name trademarked by Tektronix for their solid ink printers. (Xerox bought the line from them.) I don't know, but I've always assumed it came about just because it rhymed with laser and reminded people of Star Trek. They had laser Phasers long before Xerox bought them, I recall buying one around 1995, maybe 96. I am sure they were lasers, my Dad was a Xerox man. I spent a little while with them myself. The original laser printers really did use lasers. Some newer ones use an array of high-intensity LEDs; I dunno if those technically qualify as lasers. Usually a LED printer is listed as just that, if isn't a Laser printer. Check out the link to the Xerox line of printers. Most are laser, some solid ink and there is one listed as a LED printer. I don't know if LED is better then laser though, I've seen some cheap LED printers in my time. http://www.office.xerox.com/printers/color-printers/enus.html James ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6NjA0NjE0MzQ3OnBqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: color printer???
I like my phasers. I currently have a 6180 and a 7300. For the older models (7300ish and earlier) its very impotrant to leave them on (warm) all the time. Allowing them to cool will lead to require a professional cleaning more often due to ink gunking. But I've also been on the hate end of the spectrum with the older phasers. Again, IMO, the key to a happy life is keeping them (older phasers) on all the time. I know someone said on here that the 6180 is a toner printer, and I know it says that (toner) on all the documentation, but I dont beleive that it is (based on output look and feel, its vibrant and waxy). And even though it readily goes into its standby without me being able to over-ride it, I've yet to have an issue with it. I beleive this is because the new toner cartridge style and orientation has been greatly improved upon in recent years, and doesnt seem to leak dry ink at all (which was a big problem with older models, including the 7300). YMMV On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Erik Goldoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you looked at the Xerox (tektronix) Phaser ? I've got an 8500 at home, and it's pretty flexible for paper types, and the phase change wax ink will print on damn near anything. And with very good quality. I've got the DN, it includes a duplexer and ethernet port (along with USB) Anyone else using the Phaser with either good or bad experiences to report ? From: Adam Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: color printer??? OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1377 - Release Date: 4/14/2008 9:26 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: color printer???
Ahh you mention the CLP-500, I mentioned the CLP-300, very different toner cartridges. A google for clp-300 immediately hits up a full set of replacements for under $100 but it seems the CLP-500 uses much different cartridges, almost looks like they may include a drum within the cartridge as well, whereas the 300 carts are just pretty much round plastic containers. Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: color printer??? Care to share your source, I couldn't find much for the CLP-500 much below OEM pricing ? Thanks -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? Well, not genuine toners, generics are like 30 bucks each for that printer (they arent terribly large cartridges nor very sophisticated, just a plastic dumptruck for the most part) Erik Goldoff wrote: Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, REALLY ? I had a Samsung CLP-500, and yeah, it cost under $300 for the printer new, but replacement toner cartridges run about $425 for the set of 4 (CMYK) -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: color printer??? Referring to what, the Xerox nightmares or the cheap Samsungs? Xerox Phaser 7700, in about 6 or 7 years, two hard drives dead at about $1000 each, parts and labor, for a 2.5 4gb notebook hard disk drive formatted something proprietary (tried attaching it to a PC to see what they were all about, no dice). Required four separate print cartridges that lasted about 24,000 pages each, and a full set of four was close to $1000. I also believe the printer was full of $h** due to the chip on the cartridges that tell the printer to stop using them. Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, uses one single print cartridge that is also about $100... Oh yeah, and the toners are not chipped so you can refill them to your hearts content with generic color toner. Screw Xerox. (IMHO) Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? I guess i wouldnt know, as all my printers are covered by maintenance contracts. But can you give specifics as to what yu are referring to? FWIW, I've had less failures with my two Xerox phasers, but i have a lot more HP's, so... but nothing not covered and billable to me. On 4/15/08, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6NjAzNTU4 Nzg3On BqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm
Re: color printer???
It has toner, its just a special new toner called emulsion aggregation high gloss toner. Whatever that means. - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:10 AM Subject: Re: color printer??? I like my phasers. I currently have a 6180 and a 7300. For the older models (7300ish and earlier) its very impotrant to leave them on (warm) all the time. Allowing them to cool will lead to require a professional cleaning more often due to ink gunking. But I've also been on the hate end of the spectrum with the older phasers. Again, IMO, the key to a happy life is keeping them (older phasers) on all the time. I know someone said on here that the 6180 is a toner printer, and I know it says that (toner) on all the documentation, but I dont beleive that it is (based on output look and feel, its vibrant and waxy). And even though it readily goes into its standby without me being able to over-ride it, I've yet to have an issue with it. I beleive this is because the new toner cartridge style and orientation has been greatly improved upon in recent years, and doesnt seem to leak dry ink at all (which was a big problem with older models, including the 7300). YMMV On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Erik Goldoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you looked at the Xerox (tektronix) Phaser ? I've got an 8500 at home, and it's pretty flexible for paper types, and the phase change wax ink will print on damn near anything. And with very good quality. I've got the DN, it includes a duplexer and ethernet port (along with USB) Anyone else using the Phaser with either good or bad experiences to report ? From: Adam Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: color printer??? OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1377 - Release Date: 4/14/2008 9:26 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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Gotcha, thanks, I just didn't know what differences there were between models... I remember the older OKI and Ricoh lasers, separate OPC from toner. For the Oki OL-400 I think I was paying $29 for a toner 'bucket' -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: color printer??? Ahh you mention the CLP-500, I mentioned the CLP-300, very different toner cartridges. A google for clp-300 immediately hits up a full set of replacements for under $100 but it seems the CLP-500 uses much different cartridges, almost looks like they may include a drum within the cartridge as well, whereas the 300 carts are just pretty much round plastic containers. Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: color printer??? Care to share your source, I couldn't find much for the CLP-500 much below OEM pricing ? Thanks -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? Well, not genuine toners, generics are like 30 bucks each for that printer (they arent terribly large cartridges nor very sophisticated, just a plastic dumptruck for the most part) Erik Goldoff wrote: Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, REALLY ? I had a Samsung CLP-500, and yeah, it cost under $300 for the printer new, but replacement toner cartridges run about $425 for the set of 4 (CMYK) -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: color printer??? Referring to what, the Xerox nightmares or the cheap Samsungs? Xerox Phaser 7700, in about 6 or 7 years, two hard drives dead at about $1000 each, parts and labor, for a 2.5 4gb notebook hard disk drive formatted something proprietary (tried attaching it to a PC to see what they were all about, no dice). Required four separate print cartridges that lasted about 24,000 pages each, and a full set of four was close to $1000. I also believe the printer was full of $h** due to the chip on the cartridges that tell the printer to stop using them. Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, uses one single print cartridge that is also about $100... Oh yeah, and the toners are not chipped so you can refill them to your hearts content with generic color toner. Screw Xerox. (IMHO) Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? I guess i wouldnt know, as all my printers are covered by maintenance contracts. But can you give specifics as to what yu are referring to? FWIW, I've had less failures with my two Xerox phasers, but i have a lot more HP's, so... but nothing not covered and billable to me. On 4/15/08, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade
Re: color printer???
Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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Also the Maintenance contract is $ __ Stefan Jafs -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 09:51 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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I will admit repairs on a Xerox are expensive, however the maintenance contract is not that bad. Well maybe compared to other printers it is a little high, however compared to the cost of the actual repair it is not too bad. Our users like the visual appeal of the Solid Ink Technology, and the fact that the supplies and consumables are much more environmentally friendly. Based on that after having the first one repaired for a bad printhead and knowing that we did not have a cost estimate up front. We could have replaced the printer for less than the cost of the repair. The next time we purchased the 3-year warranty. Now if there is a problem Xerox is on the hook, yes the cost was about half the cost of the printer if memory serves me correctly. However since we have already had Xerox out to replace a failed board in the printer, due to inadequately cooling in the building, and knowing that the repair would have cost more than the warranty. I call it good, we are about to have it worked on again as there are some minor problems that I want repaired before the warranty is up. My Opinion is if you choose to get a Xerox printer by all means PURCHASE the warranty. If you have problems you will want it. -Original Message- From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: color printer??? Also the Maintenance contract is $ __ Stefan Jafs -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 09:51 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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We have had a Xerox Phaser 8500 for about 2 years now and no issues. Great quality for our use. CAR -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: color printer??? I will admit repairs on a Xerox are expensive, however the maintenance contract is not that bad. Well maybe compared to other printers it is a little high, however compared to the cost of the actual repair it is not too bad. Our users like the visual appeal of the Solid Ink Technology, and the fact that the supplies and consumables are much more environmentally friendly. Based on that after having the first one repaired for a bad printhead and knowing that we did not have a cost estimate up front. We could have replaced the printer for less than the cost of the repair. The next time we purchased the 3-year warranty. Now if there is a problem Xerox is on the hook, yes the cost was about half the cost of the printer if memory serves me correctly. However since we have already had Xerox out to replace a failed board in the printer, due to inadequately cooling in the building, and knowing that the repair would have cost more than the warranty. I call it good, we are about to have it worked on again as there are some minor problems that I want repaired before the warranty is up. My Opinion is if you choose to get a Xerox printer by all means PURCHASE the warranty. If you have problems you will want it. -Original Message- From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: color printer??? Also the Maintenance contract is $ __ Stefan Jafs -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 09:51 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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The crayon printers? Those do put out fantastic color prints, but do scratch. I have always wondered if you could get away with putting actual Crayola crayons into them, their sticks dont seem too far off from them. Terry Dickson wrote: I will admit repairs on a Xerox are expensive, however the maintenance contract is not that bad. Well maybe compared to other printers it is a little high, however compared to the cost of the actual repair it is not too bad. Our users like the visual appeal of the Solid Ink Technology, and the fact that the supplies and consumables are much more environmentally friendly. Based on that after having the first one repaired for a bad printhead and knowing that we did not have a cost estimate up front. We could have replaced the printer for less than the cost of the repair. The next time we purchased the 3-year warranty. Now if there is a problem Xerox is on the hook, yes the cost was about half the cost of the printer if memory serves me correctly. However since we have already had Xerox out to replace a failed board in the printer, due to inadequately cooling in the building, and knowing that the repair would have cost more than the warranty. I call it good, we are about to have it worked on again as there are some minor problems that I want repaired before the warranty is up. My Opinion is if you choose to get a Xerox printer by all means PURCHASE the warranty. If you have problems you will want it. -Original Message- From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: color printer??? Also the Maintenance contract is $ __ Stefan Jafs -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 09:51 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6NjAzNTExNDAzOnBqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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They actually do not use Wax they use a Resin, and if you use imitation sticks it can and usually does kill your printer. That is how we had our first repair. They will scratch you are totally correct on that, but the visual appeal for reports that probably will only be looked at once is what the users really love. -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? The crayon printers? Those do put out fantastic color prints, but do scratch. I have always wondered if you could get away with putting actual Crayola crayons into them, their sticks dont seem too far off from them. Terry Dickson wrote: I will admit repairs on a Xerox are expensive, however the maintenance contract is not that bad. Well maybe compared to other printers it is a little high, however compared to the cost of the actual repair it is not too bad. Our users like the visual appeal of the Solid Ink Technology, and the fact that the supplies and consumables are much more environmentally friendly. Based on that after having the first one repaired for a bad printhead and knowing that we did not have a cost estimate up front. We could have replaced the printer for less than the cost of the repair. The next time we purchased the 3-year warranty. Now if there is a problem Xerox is on the hook, yes the cost was about half the cost of the printer if memory serves me correctly. However since we have already had Xerox out to replace a failed board in the printer, due to inadequately cooling in the building, and knowing that the repair would have cost more than the warranty. I call it good, we are about to have it worked on again as there are some minor problems that I want repaired before the warranty is up. My Opinion is if you choose to get a Xerox printer by all means PURCHASE the warranty. If you have problems you will want it. -Original Message- From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: color printer??? Also the Maintenance contract is $ __ Stefan Jafs -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 09:51 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6NjAzNTExND AzOnBqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation
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I guess i wouldnt know, as all my printers are covered by maintenance contracts. But can you give specifics as to what yu are referring to? FWIW, I've had less failures with my two Xerox phasers, but i have a lot more HP's, so... but nothing not covered and billable to me. On 4/15/08, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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Thanks all, it sounds like Xerox is a serious contender, though I'd want to be sure to get the extended warranty and supplies sound a bit steep. Will check out the HP options mentioned on the list as well, and maybe stop by Staples to test drive the card stock. I appreciate all the responses. Adam - Original Message - From: Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:29 AM Subject: Re: color printer??? The crayon printers? Those do put out fantastic color prints, but do scratch. I have always wondered if you could get away with putting actual Crayola crayons into them, their sticks dont seem too far off from them. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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Referring to what, the Xerox nightmares or the cheap Samsungs? Xerox Phaser 7700, in about 6 or 7 years, two hard drives dead at about $1000 each, parts and labor, for a 2.5 4gb notebook hard disk drive formatted something proprietary (tried attaching it to a PC to see what they were all about, no dice). Required four separate print cartridges that lasted about 24,000 pages each, and a full set of four was close to $1000. I also believe the printer was full of $h** due to the chip on the cartridges that tell the printer to stop using them. Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, uses one single print cartridge that is also about $100... Oh yeah, and the toners are not chipped so you can refill them to your hearts content with generic color toner. Screw Xerox. (IMHO) Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? I guess i wouldnt know, as all my printers are covered by maintenance contracts. But can you give specifics as to what yu are referring to? FWIW, I've had less failures with my two Xerox phasers, but i have a lot more HP's, so... but nothing not covered and billable to me. On 4/15/08, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6NjAzNTU4Nzg3On BqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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My only beef with the phasers when we used to use them, is the cost of consumables. They never broke. - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? From what I have seen, different phaser models/generations run different OSs. I've even seen some running NT4. Like someone else said, if you have one of these - it *behooves* you to have a service contract on it. Otherwise, they are great/fast color printers that will give you much better output than laser. Also, like someone else said, I wouldn't recommend using 3rd-party and/or refilled toner. You are begging for problems. Phasers can be the biggest pain when they have tonor-related issues that require a full service cleaning. The last thing you'd ever want to do is use non-precisely designed/engineered parts in it. Its my assumption that phaser-type printers are the least forgiving in this respect. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Referring to what, the Xerox nightmares or the cheap Samsungs? Xerox Phaser 7700, in about 6 or 7 years, two hard drives dead at about $1000 each, parts and labor, for a 2.5 4gb notebook hard disk drive formatted something proprietary (tried attaching it to a PC to see what they were all about, no dice). Required four separate print cartridges that lasted about 24,000 pages each, and a full set of four was close to $1000. I also believe the printer was full of $h** due to the chip on the cartridges that tell the printer to stop using them. Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, uses one single print cartridge that is also about $100... Oh yeah, and the toners are not chipped so you can refill them to your hearts content with generic color toner. Screw Xerox. (IMHO) Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? I guess i wouldnt know, as all my printers are covered by maintenance contracts. But can you give specifics as to what yu are referring to? FWIW, I've had less failures with my two Xerox phasers, but i have a lot more HP's, so... but nothing not covered and billable to me. On 4/15/08, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6NjAzNTU4Nzg3On BqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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My only beef with them is that we couldn't take them off stun On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:38 PM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only beef with the phasers when we used to use them, is the cost of consumables. They never broke. - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? From what I have seen, different phaser models/generations run different OSs. I've even seen some running NT4. Like someone else said, if you have one of these - it *behooves* you to have a service contract on it. Otherwise, they are great/fast color printers that will give you much better output than laser. Also, like someone else said, I wouldn't recommend using 3rd-party and/or refilled toner. You are begging for problems. Phasers can be the biggest pain when they have tonor-related issues that require a full service cleaning. The last thing you'd ever want to do is use non-precisely designed/engineered parts in it. Its my assumption that phaser-type printers are the least forgiving in this respect. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Referring to what, the Xerox nightmares or the cheap Samsungs? Xerox Phaser 7700, in about 6 or 7 years, two hard drives dead at about $1000 each, parts and labor, for a 2.5 4gb notebook hard disk drive formatted something proprietary (tried attaching it to a PC to see what they were all about, no dice). Required four separate print cartridges that lasted about 24,000 pages each, and a full set of four was close to $1000. I also believe the printer was full of $h** due to the chip on the cartridges that tell the printer to stop using them. Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, uses one single print cartridge that is also about $100... Oh yeah, and the toners are not chipped so you can refill them to your hearts content with generic color toner. Screw Xerox. (IMHO) Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? I guess i wouldnt know, as all my printers are covered by maintenance contracts. But can you give specifics as to what yu are referring to? FWIW, I've had less failures with my two Xerox phasers, but i have a lot more HP's, so... but nothing not covered and billable to me. On 4/15/08, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6NjAzNTU4Nzg3On BqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm
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No arguement there. But the materials and image/color quality are very different than laser. The OP asked for quality, and I would take a phaser above a laser. My office needs to do marketing proofs, and there was no question between chosing a phaser or a laser. Since his output is minimal, consumables may not be much of a factor. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:38 PM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only beef with the phasers when we used to use them, is the cost of consumables. They never broke. - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? From what I have seen, different phaser models/generations run different OSs. I've even seen some running NT4. Like someone else said, if you have one of these - it *behooves* you to have a service contract on it. Otherwise, they are great/fast color printers that will give you much better output than laser. Also, like someone else said, I wouldn't recommend using 3rd-party and/or refilled toner. You are begging for problems. Phasers can be the biggest pain when they have tonor-related issues that require a full service cleaning. The last thing you'd ever want to do is use non-precisely designed/engineered parts in it. Its my assumption that phaser-type printers are the least forgiving in this respect. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Referring to what, the Xerox nightmares or the cheap Samsungs? Xerox Phaser 7700, in about 6 or 7 years, two hard drives dead at about $1000 each, parts and labor, for a 2.5 4gb notebook hard disk drive formatted something proprietary (tried attaching it to a PC to see what they were all about, no dice). Required four separate print cartridges that lasted about 24,000 pages each, and a full set of four was close to $1000. I also believe the printer was full of $h** due to the chip on the cartridges that tell the printer to stop using them. Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, uses one single print cartridge that is also about $100... Oh yeah, and the toners are not chipped so you can refill them to your hearts content with generic color toner. Screw Xerox. (IMHO) Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? I guess i wouldnt know, as all my printers are covered by maintenance contracts. But can you give specifics as to what yu are referring to? FWIW, I've had less failures with my two Xerox phasers, but i have a lot more HP's, so... but nothing not covered and billable to me. On 4/15/08, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- If this email is spam, report it here: http
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Not all Phasers are solid ink, ours were lasers. The Canon color copiers we have now are not nearly as good in the quality dept. James - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:43 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? No arguement there. But the materials and image/color quality are very different than laser. The OP asked for quality, and I would take a phaser above a laser. My office needs to do marketing proofs, and there was no question between chosing a phaser or a laser. Since his output is minimal, consumables may not be much of a factor. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:38 PM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only beef with the phasers when we used to use them, is the cost of consumables. They never broke. - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? From what I have seen, different phaser models/generations run different OSs. I've even seen some running NT4. Like someone else said, if you have one of these - it *behooves* you to have a service contract on it. Otherwise, they are great/fast color printers that will give you much better output than laser. Also, like someone else said, I wouldn't recommend using 3rd-party and/or refilled toner. You are begging for problems. Phasers can be the biggest pain when they have tonor-related issues that require a full service cleaning. The last thing you'd ever want to do is use non-precisely designed/engineered parts in it. Its my assumption that phaser-type printers are the least forgiving in this respect. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Referring to what, the Xerox nightmares or the cheap Samsungs? Xerox Phaser 7700, in about 6 or 7 years, two hard drives dead at about $1000 each, parts and labor, for a 2.5 4gb notebook hard disk drive formatted something proprietary (tried attaching it to a PC to see what they were all about, no dice). Required four separate print cartridges that lasted about 24,000 pages each, and a full set of four was close to $1000. I also believe the printer was full of $h** due to the chip on the cartridges that tell the printer to stop using them. Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, uses one single print cartridge that is also about $100... Oh yeah, and the toners are not chipped so you can refill them to your hearts content with generic color toner. Screw Xerox. (IMHO) Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? I guess i wouldnt know, as all my printers are covered by maintenance contracts. But can you give specifics as to what yu are referring to? FWIW, I've had less failures with my two Xerox phasers, but i have a lot more HP's, so... but nothing not covered and billable to me. On 4/15/08, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Sent from Gmail
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? Dont get mixed up in the marketing labeling: phaser = solid ink offset printing laser = toner ionization and fusing On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:54 PM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not all Phasers are solid ink, ours were lasers. The Canon color copiers we have now are not nearly as good in the quality dept. James - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:43 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? No arguement there. But the materials and image/color quality are very different than laser. The OP asked for quality, and I would take a phaser above a laser. My office needs to do marketing proofs, and there was no question between chosing a phaser or a laser. Since his output is minimal, consumables may not be much of a factor. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:38 PM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only beef with the phasers when we used to use them, is the cost of consumables. They never broke. - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? From what I have seen, different phaser models/generations run different OSs. I've even seen some running NT4. Like someone else said, if you have one of these - it *behooves* you to have a service contract on it. Otherwise, they are great/fast color printers that will give you much better output than laser. Also, like someone else said, I wouldn't recommend using 3rd-party and/or refilled toner. You are begging for problems. Phasers can be the biggest pain when they have tonor-related issues that require a full service cleaning. The last thing you'd ever want to do is use non-precisely designed/engineered parts in it. Its my assumption that phaser-type printers are the least forgiving in this respect. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Referring to what, the Xerox nightmares or the cheap Samsungs? Xerox Phaser 7700, in about 6 or 7 years, two hard drives dead at about $1000 each, parts and labor, for a 2.5 4gb notebook hard disk drive formatted something proprietary (tried attaching it to a PC to see what they were all about, no dice). Required four separate print cartridges that lasted about 24,000 pages each, and a full set of four was close to $1000. I also believe the printer was full of $h** due to the chip on the cartridges that tell the printer to stop using them. Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, uses one single print cartridge that is also about $100... Oh yeah, and the toners are not chipped so you can refill them to your hearts content with generic color toner. Screw Xerox. (IMHO) Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? I guess i wouldnt know, as all my printers are covered by maintenance contracts. But can you give specifics as to what yu are referring to? FWIW, I've had less failures with my two Xerox phasers, but i have a lot more HP's, so... but nothing not covered and billable to me. On 4/15/08, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience
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Don't confuse me man! I thought Phaser was just marketing name, that comes in laser and solid ink flavors. Certainly the machine on this floor says Phaser 750 on it and it is a laser. Its a good machine BTW, every so often I turn it on a print something and its still working fine and its probably almost 7 years old, it still says Tektronix on it. James - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? ? Dont get mixed up in the marketing labeling: phaser = solid ink offset printing laser = toner ionization and fusing On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:54 PM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not all Phasers are solid ink, ours were lasers. The Canon color copiers we have now are not nearly as good in the quality dept. James - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:43 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? No arguement there. But the materials and image/color quality are very different than laser. The OP asked for quality, and I would take a phaser above a laser. My office needs to do marketing proofs, and there was no question between chosing a phaser or a laser. Since his output is minimal, consumables may not be much of a factor. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:38 PM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only beef with the phasers when we used to use them, is the cost of consumables. They never broke. - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? From what I have seen, different phaser models/generations run different OSs. I've even seen some running NT4. Like someone else said, if you have one of these - it *behooves* you to have a service contract on it. Otherwise, they are great/fast color printers that will give you much better output than laser. Also, like someone else said, I wouldn't recommend using 3rd-party and/or refilled toner. You are begging for problems. Phasers can be the biggest pain when they have tonor-related issues that require a full service cleaning. The last thing you'd ever want to do is use non-precisely designed/engineered parts in it. Its my assumption that phaser-type printers are the least forgiving in this respect. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Referring to what, the Xerox nightmares or the cheap Samsungs? Xerox Phaser 7700, in about 6 or 7 years, two hard drives dead at about $1000 each, parts and labor, for a 2.5 4gb notebook hard disk drive formatted something proprietary (tried attaching it to a PC to see what they were all about, no dice). Required four separate print cartridges that lasted about 24,000 pages each, and a full set of four was close to $1000. I also believe the printer was full of $h** due to the chip on the cartridges that tell the printer to stop using them. Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, uses one single print cartridge that is also about $100... Oh yeah, and the toners are not chipped so you can refill them to your hearts content with generic color toner. Screw Xerox. (IMHO) Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? I guess i wouldnt know, as all my printers are covered by maintenance contracts. But can you give specifics as to what yu are referring to? FWIW, I've had less failures with my two Xerox phasers, but i have a lot more HP's, so... but nothing not covered and billable to me. On 4/15/08, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do keep in mind that Xerox printers cost an arm and a leg to have repaired if they break (firsthand experience). Samsung has a cheap and quiet color laser out there that is practically disposable and puts out reasonably good prints, with very cheap consumables. Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's
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I'm not familiar with that model, but I'm still inclined to think its a phaser. Why do you call it a laser? I know the cartridges say toner cartridge and color laser printer on them, but its solid ink in there - not toner. They are perpetuating confusion by trying to blend in with the commonly used laser moniker. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:39 PM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't confuse me man! I thought Phaser was just marketing name, that comes in laser and solid ink flavors. Certainly the machine on this floor says Phaser 750 on it and it is a laser. Its a good machine BTW, every so often I turn it on a print something and its still working fine and its probably almost 7 years old, it still says Tektronix on it. James - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? ? Dont get mixed up in the marketing labeling: phaser = solid ink offset printing laser = toner ionization and fusing On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:54 PM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not all Phasers are solid ink, ours were lasers. The Canon color copiers we have now are not nearly as good in the quality dept. James - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:43 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? No arguement there. But the materials and image/color quality are very different than laser. The OP asked for quality, and I would take a phaser above a laser. My office needs to do marketing proofs, and there was no question between chosing a phaser or a laser. Since his output is minimal, consumables may not be much of a factor. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:38 PM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only beef with the phasers when we used to use them, is the cost of consumables. They never broke. - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? From what I have seen, different phaser models/generations run different OSs. I've even seen some running NT4. Like someone else said, if you have one of these - it *behooves* you to have a service contract on it. Otherwise, they are great/fast color printers that will give you much better output than laser. Also, like someone else said, I wouldn't recommend using 3rd-party and/or refilled toner. You are begging for problems. Phasers can be the biggest pain when they have tonor-related issues that require a full service cleaning. The last thing you'd ever want to do is use non-precisely designed/engineered parts in it. Its my assumption that phaser-type printers are the least forgivingin this respect. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Referring to what, the Xerox nightmares or the cheap Samsungs? Xerox Phaser 7700, in about 6 or 7 years, two hard drives dead at about $1000 each, parts and labor, for a 2.5 4gb notebook hard disk drive formatted something proprietary (tried attaching it to a PC to see what they were all about, no dice). Required four separate print cartridges that lasted about 24,000 pages each, and a full set of four was close to $1000. I also believe the printer was full of $h** due to the chip on the cartridges that tell the printer to stop using them. Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100, uses one single print cartridge that is also about $100... Oh yeah, and the toners are not chipped so you can refill them to your hearts content with generic color toner. Screw Xerox. (IMHO) Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? I guess i wouldnt know, as all my printers are covered by maintenance contracts. But can you give specifics
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It has 4 separate POWDER toners carts, a charging wire, a photoreceptor drum on which it applies toner 4 times and a fuser assembly to fuse the toner to the paper. Sounds like a laser printer to me :-). The solid ink versions use a stick of solid ink for the color, not cartridges. As long as I've known they had both solid ink and laser printers sold under the Phaser name and do still to this day except Xerox bought that part of Tektronix a good while back. I also had a model 780 which was the same but could print ledger size. James - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? I'm not familiar with that model, but I'm still inclined to think its a phaser. Why do you call it a laser? I know the cartridges say toner cartridge and color laser printer on them, but its solid ink in there - not toner. They are perpetuating confusion by trying to blend in with the commonly used laser moniker. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:39 PM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't confuse me man! I thought Phaser was just marketing name, that comes in laser and solid ink flavors. Certainly the machine on this floor says Phaser 750 on it and it is a laser. Its a good machine BTW, every so often I turn it on a print something and its still working fine and its probably almost 7 years old, it still says Tektronix on it. James - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? ? Dont get mixed up in the marketing labeling: phaser = solid ink offset printing laser = toner ionization and fusing On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:54 PM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not all Phasers are solid ink, ours were lasers. The Canon color copiers we have now are not nearly as good in the quality dept. James - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:43 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? No arguement there. But the materials and image/color quality are very different than laser. The OP asked for quality, and I would take a phaser above a laser. My office needs to do marketing proofs, and there was no question between chosing a phaser or a laser. Since his output is minimal, consumables may not be much of a factor. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:38 PM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only beef with the phasers when we used to use them, is the cost of consumables. They never broke. - Original Message - From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: Re: color printer??? From what I have seen, different phaser models/generations run different OSs. I've even seen some running NT4. Like someone else said, if you have one of these - it *behooves* you to have a service contract on it. Otherwise, they are great/fast color printers that will give you much better output than laser. Also, like someone else said, I wouldn't recommend using 3rd-party and/or refilled toner. You are begging for problems. Phasers can be the biggest pain when they have tonor-related issues that require a full service cleaning. The last thing you'd ever want to do is use non-precisely designed/engineered parts in it. Its my assumption that phaser-type printers are the least forgivingin this respect. On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Referring to what, the Xerox nightmares or the cheap Samsungs? Xerox Phaser 7700, in about 6 or 7 years, two hard drives dead at about $1000 each, parts and labor, for a 2.5 4gb notebook hard disk drive formatted something proprietary (tried attaching it to a PC to see what they were all about, no dice). Required four separate print cartridges that lasted about 24,000 pages each, and a full set of four was close to $1000. I also believe the printer was full of $h** due to the chip on the cartridges that tell the printer to stop using them. Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice, cost of entire printer is about $230 and a full set of replacement toners is about $100
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Out Phaser 6180DN toner based printer disagrees. They are offered in both flavors. Some here got bit with some high priced service, but that's any company when you're dealing with EOL or out of contract hardware. I have a Minolta MFP that is our boat anchor because of that. Maybe I just have a good Xerox rep. He tells me what options are worth it and what aren't. I would probably get any printer brand he deals with because of the service we get. -- Mike Gill -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? ? Dont get mixed up in the marketing labeling: phaser = solid ink offset printing laser = toner ionization and fusing ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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On 4/15/08, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ? Dont get mixed up in the marketing labeling: phaser = solid ink offset printing Phaser is a brand name trademarked by Tektronix for their solid ink printers. (Xerox bought the line from them.) I don't know, but I've always assumed it came about just because it rhymed with laser and reminded people of Star Trek. It certainly has nothing to do with the technology used in the printer; it doesn't use an actual phaser. (There really is something called a phaser. Outside of Star Trek, I mean. They're used in digital signal processing. Some of our test equipment have them.) Xerox has started using Phaser for printers that don't use solid ink. There's nothing technologically incorrect about that, since Phaser was never anything more than a brand name in the first place. laser = toner ionization and fusing The original laser printers really did use lasers. Some newer ones use an array of high-intensity LEDs; I dunno if those technically qualify as lasers. But both types work on the same electrophotographic process that old-school copiers (non-digital) used. The difference is, rather than reflecting a light off an original, the printers directly imprint the image on the photo drum by controlling the light from the laser or LED array. -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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On 4/15/08, Phillip Partipilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samsung CLP-300, prints come out just about as nice ... I tried the display model of one of those in Staples. Seems like a neat little printer for personal use, but good gawd is it slow. It takes it 20 seconds to get a page out. We have an HP Color LaserJet 2500n and a CLJ 2600n. I'm not overly impressed, but they seem to work okay. The 2500 uses a single photo drum and puts the four CMYK toner cartridges on a carousel. When you first turn it on or wake it up, it has to through a calibration cycle to line everything up; that can take a good two minutes. Once it's ready, BW prints come out reasonably quickly. Color is four times slower, since it just has the one photo drum. It's also slightly prone to misfeeding on heavy or slippery print stock. The 2600 has four individual cartridges, each with its own toner and drum. Color printing is thus single pass, and there's no calibration cycle. So it's a lot faster. A colleague of mine was praising the CLJ 3600 as fast for both BW and color, and delivering very good looking prints. HP's tech support has become horrible. Don't expect them to honor their warranties. -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828118197 We use this and put about 3K+ per month on it. It's been great and the quality it very good. -- Mike Gill From: Adam Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: color printer??? OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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Check carefully, some of the Xerox printer have more stringent requirements on card stock than other brands. However I have found if you contact a Xerox rep directly they will many times bring you out a printer to test for a period of time. That usually helps make the sell, unless it just does not work. -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: color printer??? There also Xerox color printers, formerly known as Tektronix. I love HP printers but I have never used a color HP since all our color work is done by our color copiers. James - Original Message - From: Adam Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:55 PM Subject: color printer??? OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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Xerox Phaser 6180 DN, or the like? On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
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We have an HP 2605dn at home which my wife uses for her small business. The prints are nothing short of spectacular but my wife says heavy card stock (100# text) tends to get stuck. Looking at the paper path through the manual feed, I can see why. Take some samples of your cardstock to Staples/Officemax/Office Depot and run some tests. -Jeff From: Adam Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: color printer??? OK, Here's the monthly color printer question to this list Looking for a reliable color printer that can print on card stock and do legal size paper. Less than 200 pages per month. Color images need to come out with good quality. Network-attached rather than PC-attached. So far the HP 2600n seems to have good reviews out there. HP itself directed us to the CP1510 which seems slightly better. We would probably go with Brother because we've had good experience with a monochrome MFC. However, they told us they can't support cardstock. Seems hard to believe. Would not repeat Lexmark -- we have a c720 that's a beast, takes forever, and has cost us lots of money in replacement parts. Thanks for any advice, guys. Adam ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
