Re: Windows Phone 8

[Steven Peck]

The only blue tooth device I have is my car radio which hasn't cut out.
May want to check your headset.  Regular calls have been rock solid for me
as well as those through the radio in the car.

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Ben M. Schorr wrote:

>  Wait…you mean it makes calls TOO!?!?  
>
> ** **
>
> ;-) 
>
> ** **
>
> Yeah, with my Win Phone 8 I’d say that the only feature I’ve really had
> trouble with is the calling – I’ve had it cut out a few times on me, though
> I suspect that might be my Bluetooth more than the phone.
>
> ** **
>
> Otherwise it’s been really good. There are a few apps that are rough
> around the edges and could use a long overdue update, but overall it’s
> still the best smartphone I’ve ever had (and I had a long line of Androids
> before this).
>
> ** **
>
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
> *Roland Schorr & Tower – Flagstaff Office
> *928-526-3970
> www.rolandschorr.com * www.twitter.com/bschorr *
> www.facebook.com/RolandSchorr 
>
>  ** **
>
> *From:* HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2013 11:35 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* R: Windows Phone 8
>
>  ** **
>
> Thanks all 
>
> Sometimes it looks people buy smartphones (iPhones i.e.) for everything
> but phone and mail
>
>  
>
> *Guido Elia*
>
> *HELPPC - HELPPC SERVICE*
>   --
>
> *Da:* Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com ]
>
> *Inviato:* venerdì 15 febbraio 2013 18.11
> *A:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Oggetto:* (SCL: -1) RE: Windows Phone 8
>
>  
>
> O.K. Should be fine. (?)
>
>  
>
> Ben M. Schorr
>
> Chief Executive Officer****
>
> Roland Schorr & Tower
>
> www.rolandschorr.com
>
>  
>
> *From:* HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it ]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2013 9:13 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Windows Phone 8
>
>  
>
>  
>
> I want to try to migrate from my HTC HD2 to the new Samsung ATIV S 
>
> As I am satisfied whit result of Exchange connection with HTC (SBS 2011) I
> don’t want to worsen for getting othe* *r less important things
>
>  
>
>  
>
> TIA
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>  
>
>  
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RE: Windows Phone 8

[Ben M. Schorr]

Wait...you mean it makes calls TOO!?!?

;-)

Yeah, with my Win Phone 8 I'd say that the only feature I've really had trouble 
with is the calling - I've had it cut out a few times on me, though I suspect 
that might be my Bluetooth more than the phone.

Otherwise it's been really good. There are a few apps that are rough around the 
edges and could use a long overdue update, but overall it's still the best 
smartphone I've ever had (and I had a long line of Androids before this).

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
Roland Schorr & Tower - Flagstaff Office
928-526-3970
www.rolandschorr.com<http://www.rolandschorr.com/> * 
www.twitter.com/bschorr<http://www.twitter.com/bschorr> * 
www.facebook.com/RolandSchorr<http://www.facebook.com/RolandSchorr>

From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: Windows Phone 8

Thanks all
Sometimes it looks people buy smartphones (iPhones i.e.) for everything but 
phone and mail

Guido Elia
HELPPC - HELPPC SERVICE

Da: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com]
Inviato: venerdì 15 febbraio 2013 18.11
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: (SCL: -1) RE: Windows Phone 8

O.K. Should be fine. (?)

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com<http://www.rolandschorr.com/>

From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows Phone 8


I want to try to migrate from my HTC HD2 to the new Samsung ATIV S
As I am satisfied whit result of Exchange connection with HTC (SBS 2011) I 
don't want to worsen for getting othe r less important things


TIA



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R: Windows Phone 8

[HELP_PC]

Thanks all
Sometimes it looks people buy smartphones (iPhones i.e.) for everything but 
phone and mail

Guido Elia
HELPPC - HELPPC SERVICE

Da: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com]
Inviato: venerdì 15 febbraio 2013 18.11
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: (SCL: -1) RE: Windows Phone 8

O.K. Should be fine. (?)

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com<http://www.rolandschorr.com/>

From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows Phone 8


I want to try to migrate from my HTC HD2 to the new Samsung ATIV S
As I am satisfied whit result of Exchange connection with HTC (SBS 2011) I 
don't want to worsen for getting othe r less important things


TIA



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RE: Windows Phone 8

[Ben M. Schorr]

O.K. Should be fine. (?)

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com<http://www.rolandschorr.com/>

From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows Phone 8


I want to try to migrate from my HTC HD2 to the new Samsung ATIV S
As I am satisfied whit result of Exchange connection with HTC (SBS 2011) I 
don't want to worsen for getting othe r less important things


TIA



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RE: Windows Phone 8

[Guyer, Don]

We have a Nokia W8 phone setup in our system, works same as other W7 phones.

Regards,

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For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the 
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From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows Phone 8


I want to try to migrate from my HTC HD2 to the new Samsung ATIV S
As I am satisfied whit result of Exchange connection with HTC (SBS 2011) I 
don't want to worsen for getting othe r less important things


TIA



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RE: windows phone 8

[Sam Cayze]

Someone kindly posted the link already.  Haven’t tried it yet.

 

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35471

 

 

From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

 

I believe there is a emulator in the Windows Phone 8 SDK, but I have looked
into the requirements for that to run.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

 

I am not sure about emulators. 

As for the lock screen, you can personalize it many different ways, but one
option is to have weather as the background with “app updates” on it. You
can have up to 5 apps with updates on it. I for instance have 3 different
email accounts, texts and phone calls on mine. You also have battery,
network, and ringer statuses all displayed on the lock screen. You can also
set personal photos and other apps like Facebook as your lock screen instead
of weather if you want to.

Tim

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

 

Gosh, been following this thread closely, must say I’m very eager to give a
Windows Phone another go now.  


First of all, any online emulators? That would answer a gazillion questions
I and others have.  I know with Android you can download a SDK and run the
OS in a virtual machine.  Anything similar?


So here’s my main question:

 

I’m very accustomed to accessing all my important information at a quick
glance on my lockscreen (without even unlocking my phone). Just a quick tap
of the power button I can view:

Outside temp

Forecast

Upcoming meetings / calendar

Unread email/SMS count

Battery level

And with one gesture I can read all my notifications.

There are many other options too. Pretty much anything you can put in a
widget, you can access.

And I haven’t even had to unlock my phone yet…

 

Can this quick visibility also be easily achieved on a Win8 phone?  If so,
I’d seriously consider it.

 

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

 

I have been using it for 2 weeks now and have found it to be easier to use
and slightly more accurate than Google maps is on my Android phone. (Since I
have one of each I do searches, directions and locating using both
simultaneously.) So far my WP8 maps have placed me at a truer location than
my Android phone does. Android is usually accurate within a half block, WP8
puts me right where I am, but that is me in this city so YMMV. Driving
directions have been basically the same, and I must admit to never having
tried the traffic part of the maps app since there is no traffic to speak of
in Tulsa so I never have to worry about avoiding it. J

Tim

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

 

Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the
back end for wp8?

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:

If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared to
iPhone and Android

I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I
look at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just
depressing.

Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) ) and
many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android just
aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public transport,
book taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don’t exist, nor does Google
Maps. Bing search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just rubbish in
every other country I've tried). Everything else, there's about one main
option on WP, instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID (e.g. one
for work, one for personal, one for Messenger), then working out how to get
these to work together on your phone is a pain.

Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts -
and this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial
mode for all the games, so you don’t have to buy up-front.

Cheers
Ken


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet
for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel
liberated.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't h

RE: windows phone 8

[Michael B. Smith]

Windows 8 and Client Hyper-V.

From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I believe there is a emulator in the Windows Phone 8 SDK, but I have looked 
into the requirements for that to run.

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I am not sure about emulators.
As for the lock screen, you can personalize it many different ways, but one 
option is to have weather as the background with "app updates" on it. You can 
have up to 5 apps with updates on it. I for instance have 3 different email 
accounts, texts and phone calls on mine. You also have battery, network, and 
ringer statuses all displayed on the lock screen. You can also set personal 
photos and other apps like Facebook as your lock screen instead of weather if 
you want to.
Tim

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Gosh, been following this thread closely, must say I'm very eager to give a 
Windows Phone another go now.

First of all, any online emulators? That would answer a gazillion questions I 
and others have.  I know with Android you can download a SDK and run the OS in 
a virtual machine.  Anything similar?

So here's my main question:

I'm very accustomed to accessing all my important information at a quick glance 
on my lockscreen (without even unlocking my phone). Just a quick tap of the 
power button I can view:
Outside temp
Forecast
Upcoming meetings / calendar
Unread email/SMS count
Battery level
And with one gesture I can read all my notifications.
There are many other options too. Pretty much anything you can put in a widget, 
you can access.
And I haven't even had to unlock my phone yet...

Can this quick visibility also be easily achieved on a Win8 phone?  If so, I'd 
seriously consider it.


From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have been using it for 2 weeks now and have found it to be easier to use and 
slightly more accurate than Google maps is on my Android phone. (Since I have 
one of each I do searches, directions and locating using both simultaneously.) 
So far my WP8 maps have placed me at a truer location than my Android phone 
does. Android is usually accurate within a half block, WP8 puts me right where 
I am, but that is me in this city so YMMV. Driving directions have been 
basically the same, and I must admit to never having tried the traffic part of 
the maps app since there is no traffic to speak of in Tulsa so I never have to 
worry about avoiding it. :)
Tim

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the back 
end for wp8?
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared to 
iPhone and Android

I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I look 
at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just depressing.

Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) ) and 
many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android just 
aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public transport, book 
taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don't exist, nor does Google Maps. Bing 
search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just rubbish in every other 
country I've tried). Everything else, there's about one main option on WP, 
instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID (e.g. one for work, one 
for personal, one for Messenger), then working out how to get these to work 
together on your phone is a pain.

Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts - and 
this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial mode for 
all the games, so you don't have to buy up-front.

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet 
for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel 
liberated.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com<mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com>]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have the 8X while my wife

RE: windows phone 8

[Senter, John]

I believe there is a emulator in the Windows Phone 8 SDK, but I have looked 
into the requirements for that to run.

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I am not sure about emulators.
As for the lock screen, you can personalize it many different ways, but one 
option is to have weather as the background with "app updates" on it. You can 
have up to 5 apps with updates on it. I for instance have 3 different email 
accounts, texts and phone calls on mine. You also have battery, network, and 
ringer statuses all displayed on the lock screen. You can also set personal 
photos and other apps like Facebook as your lock screen instead of weather if 
you want to.
Tim

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Gosh, been following this thread closely, must say I'm very eager to give a 
Windows Phone another go now.

First of all, any online emulators? That would answer a gazillion questions I 
and others have.  I know with Android you can download a SDK and run the OS in 
a virtual machine.  Anything similar?

So here's my main question:

I'm very accustomed to accessing all my important information at a quick glance 
on my lockscreen (without even unlocking my phone). Just a quick tap of the 
power button I can view:
Outside temp
Forecast
Upcoming meetings / calendar
Unread email/SMS count
Battery level
And with one gesture I can read all my notifications.
There are many other options too. Pretty much anything you can put in a widget, 
you can access.
And I haven't even had to unlock my phone yet...

Can this quick visibility also be easily achieved on a Win8 phone?  If so, I'd 
seriously consider it.


From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have been using it for 2 weeks now and have found it to be easier to use and 
slightly more accurate than Google maps is on my Android phone. (Since I have 
one of each I do searches, directions and locating using both simultaneously.) 
So far my WP8 maps have placed me at a truer location than my Android phone 
does. Android is usually accurate within a half block, WP8 puts me right where 
I am, but that is me in this city so YMMV. Driving directions have been 
basically the same, and I must admit to never having tried the traffic part of 
the maps app since there is no traffic to speak of in Tulsa so I never have to 
worry about avoiding it. :)
Tim

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the back 
end for wp8?
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared to 
iPhone and Android

I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I look 
at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just depressing.

Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) ) and 
many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android just 
aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public transport, book 
taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don't exist, nor does Google Maps. Bing 
search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just rubbish in every other 
country I've tried). Everything else, there's about one main option on WP, 
instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID (e.g. one for work, one 
for personal, one for Messenger), then working out how to get these to work 
together on your phone is a pain.

Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts - and 
this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial mode for 
all the games, so you don't have to buy up-front.

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet 
for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel 
liberated.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com<mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com>]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues 
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with 
different phones based on personal preference regar

Re: windows phone 8

[Bill Humphries]

My wife broke down and ditched her old android phone for a 920.  I let her 
use a 900 we had laying around the office for a few days.  The first time 
she used it in the car she said "wow, that is how my phone should work while 
I'm in the car.  Not just mapping or voice, but things like font choices and 
spacing for readability when you have it mounted on your dash.


She liked the 920 so much she overlooked the missing starbucks app!

also, check out this drop test video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3c8il_Q6SU&feature=youtu.be



-Original Message- 
From: Matthew W. Ross

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sounds good. I hope I get the chance to play with one sometime.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Tim Vander Kooi
[mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
16:29:35 -0800
Subject: RE: windows phone 8



I can tell you that from my POV the People Hub (instead of Contacts) is a
much nicer way to interact with people. I show my friends with Android or
iOS phones how you can post to someone's Facebook wall, post to Twitter
regarding them, IM them, text them, call any number of phones that they
might have and more all from one spot and they start drooling all over
themselves. The built in family room and other rooms is awesome for anyone
with kids. Yes, I know that you can setup shared calendars and such in
Google and then access them from your phone, but the way that Windows 
Phone

has it built in and configured makes it SO much nicer and easier to use.
Accessing apps is much easier with Windows Phone and the intelligence 
behind

typing on the Windows Phone keyboard is truly amazing. The WP intelligent
typing does not just suggest spelling corrections like Google or Apple
phones do, it actually looks at WHAT you are typing and suggests the next
work based on the entire sentence and thoughts being typed. I have sent
messages where I only had to type the first letter and then tap the words 
in

the "auto-correct" line. After using that feature going back to my Android
phone that I use for work is very much like picking up a chisel and piece 
of

slate. Try it, you will be amazed, and it improves with use as it gets to
know you. The speech typing is far superior to Android's also in my
experience. There is a lot more to it, but those are a few of the biggies.
Regards,
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

> Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and
> tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win
> devices.  I feel liberated.

I'm curious: What's liberating?

I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am 
still
using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP 
Touchpad

with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS.

What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Rod Trent
[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
12:14:38 -0800
Subject: RE: windows phone 8


> Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and
> tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win
> devices.  I feel liberated.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the
> issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We
> went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size
> and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks
later.
> I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
> everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> Tim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so
> give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and
>

Re: windows phone 8

[Steven Peck]

The visible differences are more in the additional tile size and additional
features that wp8 brings.  If you used wp7 then it's very familiar but wp8
just feels more better :)

Rooms (private group Calendar, messaging, OneNote stuff in one spot),
Wallet, Kids corner, ATT finally turned on visual voice mail a lot of stuff
just seems to work better.  You can attach more stuff to a message (such as
location).  The Rooms is my most used new thing.  Most stuff just seems to
work better now.  I am sure I am missing tons of other stuff as well :)

http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/features/all

My dad's favorite Windows Phone feature is Local Scout but that's been in
since 7.

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:

> How much different is WP8 opposed to 7?
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> * *
>
> *Don Guyer**
> **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
>
> Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
>
> email: *dgu...@che.org*
>
> Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
>
> *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the
> helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
>
> [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240]
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:28 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: windows phone 8
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35471
>
> You need Windows 8 Pro for the Client HyperV  but I think that is the
> emulator.  It runs as a virtual machine.
>
>  
>
> Outside temp - Lots of weather apps.  Temp on live tile on screen
>
> Forecast - see weather app
>
> Upcoming meetings / calendar - can be on lock screen and live tile
>
> Unread email/SMS count - on lock screen and live tile
>
> Battery level - there is a battery level indicator or an App if you want
> more info (the app can post on lock screen)
>
> And with one gesture I can read all my notifications. - no notification
> center.  Devs said they ran out of time, expected q1 next year.
>
>  
>
> http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/meet-your-match-challenge
>
> I was going to post a screen shot of my phone but instead realized that MS
> has several short videos about this already.  Yes they are for ad campaigns
> but they are also accurate.  Towards the end of the videos they show you
> the different configuration of tiles.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Steven Peck
>
> http://www.blkmtn.org
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:
>
> Gosh, been following this thread closely, must say I’m very eager to give
> a Windows Phone another go now.  
>
>
> First of all, any online emulators? That would answer a gazillion
> questions I and others have.  I know with Android you can download a SDK
> and run the OS in a virtual machine.  Anything similar?
>
>
> So here’s my main question:
>
>  
>
> I’m very accustomed to accessing all my important information at a quick
> glance on my lockscreen (without even unlocking my phone). Just a quick tap
> of the power button I can view:
>
> Outside temp
>
> Forecast
>
> Upcoming meetings / calendar
>
> Unread email/SMS count
>
> Battery level
>
> And with one gesture I can read all my notifications.
>
> There are many other options too. Pretty much anything you can put in a
> widget, you can access.
>
> And I haven’t even had to unlock my phone yet…
>
>  
>
> Can this quick visibility also be easily achieved on a Win8 phone?  If so,
> I’d seriously consider it.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:53 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: windows phone 8
>
>  
>
> I have been using it for 2 weeks now and have found it to be easier to use
> and slightly more accurate than Google maps is on my Android phone. (Since
> I have one of each I do searches, directions and locating using both
> simultaneously.) So far my WP8 maps have placed me at a truer location than
> my Android phone does. Android is usually accurate within a half block, WP8
> puts me right where I am, but that is me in this city so YMMV. Driving
> directions have been basically the same, and I must admit to never having
> tried the traffic part of the maps app since there is no traffic to speak
> of in Tulsa so

RE: windows phone 8

[Guyer, Don]

How much different is WP8 opposed to 7?

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology
Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.org<mailto:dgu...@che.org>
Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the 
helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.
[cid:image001.jpg@01CDCD5C.AE1F61F0]

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35471
You need Windows 8 Pro for the Client HyperV  but I think that is the emulator. 
 It runs as a virtual machine.

Outside temp - Lots of weather apps.  Temp on live tile on screen
Forecast - see weather app
Upcoming meetings / calendar - can be on lock screen and live tile
Unread email/SMS count - on lock screen and live tile
Battery level - there is a battery level indicator or an App if you want more 
info (the app can post on lock screen)
And with one gesture I can read all my notifications. - no notification center. 
 Devs said they ran out of time, expected q1 next year.

http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/meet-your-match-challenge
I was going to post a screen shot of my phone but instead realized that MS has 
several short videos about this already.  Yes they are for ad campaigns but 
they are also accurate.  Towards the end of the videos they show you the 
different configuration of tiles.


Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org



On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Sam Cayze 
mailto:sca...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Gosh, been following this thread closely, must say I'm very eager to give a 
Windows Phone another go now.

First of all, any online emulators? That would answer a gazillion questions I 
and others have.  I know with Android you can download a SDK and run the OS in 
a virtual machine.  Anything similar?

So here's my main question:

I'm very accustomed to accessing all my important information at a quick glance 
on my lockscreen (without even unlocking my phone). Just a quick tap of the 
power button I can view:
Outside temp
Forecast
Upcoming meetings / calendar
Unread email/SMS count
Battery level
And with one gesture I can read all my notifications.
There are many other options too. Pretty much anything you can put in a widget, 
you can access.
And I haven't even had to unlock my phone yet...

Can this quick visibility also be easily achieved on a Win8 phone?  If so, I'd 
seriously consider it.


From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com<mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:53 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have been using it for 2 weeks now and have found it to be easier to use and 
slightly more accurate than Google maps is on my Android phone. (Since I have 
one of each I do searches, directions and locating using both simultaneously.) 
So far my WP8 maps have placed me at a truer location than my Android phone 
does. Android is usually accurate within a half block, WP8 puts me right where 
I am, but that is me in this city so YMMV. Driving directions have been 
basically the same, and I must admit to never having tried the traffic part of 
the maps app since there is no traffic to speak of in Tulsa so I never have to 
worry about avoiding it. :)
Tim

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the back 
end for wp8?
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared to 
iPhone and Android

I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I look 
at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just depressing.

Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) ) and 
many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android just 
aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public transport, book 
taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don't exist, nor does Google Maps. Bing 
search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just rubbish in every other 
country I've tried). Everything else, there's about one main option on WP, 
instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID (e.g. one for work, one 
for personal, one for Messenger), then working out how to get these to work 
together on your phone is a pain.

Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts - and 
this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial mode for 
all the games, so you don't have to buy up-front.

Cheers
Ken

--

RE: windows phone 8

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I am not sure about emulators.
As for the lock screen, you can personalize it many different ways, but one 
option is to have weather as the background with "app updates" on it. You can 
have up to 5 apps with updates on it. I for instance have 3 different email 
accounts, texts and phone calls on mine. You also have battery, network, and 
ringer statuses all displayed on the lock screen. You can also set personal 
photos and other apps like Facebook as your lock screen instead of weather if 
you want to.
Tim

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Gosh, been following this thread closely, must say I'm very eager to give a 
Windows Phone another go now.

First of all, any online emulators? That would answer a gazillion questions I 
and others have.  I know with Android you can download a SDK and run the OS in 
a virtual machine.  Anything similar?

So here's my main question:

I'm very accustomed to accessing all my important information at a quick glance 
on my lockscreen (without even unlocking my phone). Just a quick tap of the 
power button I can view:
Outside temp
Forecast
Upcoming meetings / calendar
Unread email/SMS count
Battery level
And with one gesture I can read all my notifications.
There are many other options too. Pretty much anything you can put in a widget, 
you can access.
And I haven't even had to unlock my phone yet...

Can this quick visibility also be easily achieved on a Win8 phone?  If so, I'd 
seriously consider it.


From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have been using it for 2 weeks now and have found it to be easier to use and 
slightly more accurate than Google maps is on my Android phone. (Since I have 
one of each I do searches, directions and locating using both simultaneously.) 
So far my WP8 maps have placed me at a truer location than my Android phone 
does. Android is usually accurate within a half block, WP8 puts me right where 
I am, but that is me in this city so YMMV. Driving directions have been 
basically the same, and I must admit to never having tried the traffic part of 
the maps app since there is no traffic to speak of in Tulsa so I never have to 
worry about avoiding it. :)
Tim

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the back 
end for wp8?
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared to 
iPhone and Android

I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I look 
at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just depressing.

Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) ) and 
many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android just 
aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public transport, book 
taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don't exist, nor does Google Maps. Bing 
search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just rubbish in every other 
country I've tried). Everything else, there's about one main option on WP, 
instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID (e.g. one for work, one 
for personal, one for Messenger), then working out how to get these to work 
together on your phone is a pain.

Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts - and 
this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial mode for 
all the games, so you don't have to buy up-front.

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet 
for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel 
liberated.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com<mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com>]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues 
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with 
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we 
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday 
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Rod Tre

Re: windows phone 8

[Steven Peck]

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35471
You need Windows 8 Pro for the Client HyperV  but I think that is the
emulator.  It runs as a virtual machine.


Outside temp - Lots of weather apps.  Temp on live tile on screen

Forecast - see weather app

Upcoming meetings / calendar - can be on lock screen and live tile

Unread email/SMS count - on lock screen and live tile

Battery level - there is a battery level indicator or an App if you want
more info (the app can post on lock screen)

And with one gesture I can read all my notifications. - no notification
center.  Devs said they ran out of time, expected q1 next year.



http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/meet-your-match-challenge

I was going to post a screen shot of my phone but instead realized that MS
has several short videos about this already.  Yes they are for ad campaigns
but they are also accurate.  Towards the end of the videos they show you
the different configuration of tiles.


Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org



On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

> Gosh, been following this thread closely, must say I’m very eager to give
> a Windows Phone another go now.  
>
>
> First of all, any online emulators? That would answer a gazillion
> questions I and others have.  I know with Android you can download a SDK
> and run the OS in a virtual machine.  Anything similar?
>
>
> So here’s my main question:
>
> ** **
>
> I’m very accustomed to accessing all my important information at a quick
> glance on my lockscreen (without even unlocking my phone). Just a quick tap
> of the power button I can view:
>
> Outside temp
>
> Forecast
>
> Upcoming meetings / calendar
>
> Unread email/SMS count
>
> Battery level
>
> And with one gesture I can read all my notifications.
>
> There are many other options too. Pretty much anything you can put in a
> widget, you can access.
>
> And I haven’t even had to unlock my phone yet…
>
> ** **
>
> Can this quick visibility also be easily achieved on a Win8 phone?  If so,
> I’d seriously consider it.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:53 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: windows phone 8
>
> ** **
>
> I have been using it for 2 weeks now and have found it to be easier to use
> and slightly more accurate than Google maps is on my Android phone. (Since
> I have one of each I do searches, directions and locating using both
> simultaneously.) So far my WP8 maps have placed me at a truer location than
> my Android phone does. Android is usually accurate within a half block, WP8
> puts me right where I am, but that is me in this city so YMMV. Driving
> directions have been basically the same, and I must admit to never having
> tried the traffic part of the maps app since there is no traffic to speak
> of in Tulsa so I never have to worry about avoiding it. J
>
> Tim
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:15 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: windows phone 8
>
> ** **
>
> Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the
> back end for wp8?
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer 
> wrote:
>
> If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared
> to iPhone and Android
>
> I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I
> look at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just
> depressing.
>
> Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) )
> and many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android
> just aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public
> transport, book taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don’t exist, nor
> does Google Maps. Bing search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just
> rubbish in every other country I've tried). Everything else, there's about
> one main option on WP, instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID
> (e.g. one for work, one for personal, one for Messenger), then working out
> how to get these to work together on your phone is a pain.
>
> Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts -
> and this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial
> mode for all the games, so you don’t have to buy up-front.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
>
> Sent: Tuesday, 27

Re: windows phone 8

[Steven Peck]

I  say that the newer wp8 maps are more accurate then the focus wp7 but
that may be better radio's in the Nokia.  Also like the Nokia Drive which
is essentially free Garmin GPS software but less money.

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Tim Vander Kooi wrote:

> I have been using it for 2 weeks now and have found it to be easier to use
> and slightly more accurate than Google maps is on my Android phone. (Since
> I have one of each I do searches, directions and locating using both
> simultaneously.) So far my WP8 maps have placed me at a truer location than
> my Android phone does. Android is usually accurate within a half block, WP8
> puts me right where I am, but that is me in this city so YMMV. Driving
> directions have been basically the same, and I must admit to never having
> tried the traffic part of the maps app since there is no traffic to speak
> of in Tulsa so I never have to worry about avoiding it. J
>
> Tim
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:15 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: windows phone 8
>
> ** **
>
> Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the
> back end for wp8?
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer 
> wrote:
>
> If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared
> to iPhone and Android
>
> I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I
> look at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just
> depressing.
>
> Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) )
> and many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android
> just aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public
> transport, book taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don’t exist, nor
> does Google Maps. Bing search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just
> rubbish in every other country I've tried). Everything else, there's about
> one main option on WP, instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID
> (e.g. one for work, one for personal, one for Messenger), then working out
> how to get these to work together on your phone is a pain.
>
> Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts -
> and this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial
> mode for all the games, so you don’t have to buy up-front.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
>
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and
> tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I
> feel liberated.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the
> issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went
> with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel
> and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
> I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
> everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> Tim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give
> me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier
> and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to
> the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go
> down the HTC route ...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung
> screens.
>
> The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed
> up an hour or so ago.
>
>
>
> -

RE: windows phone 8

[rodtrent]

Oh, you’re the company that still has blackberries.  Wondered who that was.  😊

 

Seriously, though, use WP8 for a week and you’ll start selling it to everyone.



Sent from Windows Mail


From: John Cook
Sent: ‎November‎ ‎27‎, ‎2012 ‎4‎:‎52‎ ‎PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8




We’ve been kicking around the possibility of adding a second type of device 
(yes we’re keeping the Blackberries) so I just got my boss to order me the HTC 
8x, we shall see how it pans out.

 


 John W. Cook

Network Operations Manager

Partnership For Strong Families

5950 NW 1st Place

Gainesville, Fl 32607

Office (352) 244-1610

Cell (352) 215-6944

MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

 



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8


Gosh, been following this thread closely, must say I’m very eager to give a 
Windows Phone another go now.  


First of all, any online emulators? That would answer a gazillion questions I 
and others have.  I know with Android you can download a SDK and run the OS in 
a virtual machine.  Anything similar?


So here’s my main question:

 

I’m very accustomed to accessing all my important information at a quick glance 
on my lockscreen (without even unlocking my phone). Just a quick tap of the 
power button I can view:

Outside temp

Forecast

Upcoming meetings / calendar

Unread email/SMS count

Battery level

And with one gesture I can read all my notifications.

There are many other options too. Pretty much anything you can put in a widget, 
you can access.

And I haven’t even had to unlock my phone yet…

 

Can this quick visibility also be easily achieved on a Win8 phone?  If so, I’d 
seriously consider it.

 

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8


I have been using it for 2 weeks now and have found it to be easier to use and 
slightly more accurate than Google maps is on my Android phone. (Since I have 
one of each I do searches, directions and locating using both simultaneously.) 
So far my WP8 maps have placed me at a truer location than my Android phone 
does. Android is usually accurate within a half block, WP8 puts me right where 
I am, but that is me in this city so YMMV. Driving directions have been 
basically the same, and I must admit to never having tried the traffic part of 
the maps app since there is no traffic to speak of in Tulsa so I never have to 
worry about avoiding it. J

Tim

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8


Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the back 
end for wp8?


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:


If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared to 
iPhone and Android

I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I look 
at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just depressing.

Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) ) and 
many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android just 
aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public transport, book 
taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don’t exist, nor does Google Maps. Bing 
search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just rubbish in every other 
country I've tried). Everything else, there's about one main option on WP, 
instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID (e.g. one for work, one 
for personal, one for Messenger), then working out how to get these to work 
together on your phone is a pain.

Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts - and 
this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial mode for 
all the games, so you don’t have to buy up-front.

Cheers
Ken



-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]



Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet 
for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel 
liberated.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues 
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with 
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we 
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for ev

RE: windows phone 8

[rodtrent]

The one thing WP8 doesn’t have, and I wish it did, was a notification app.  The 
tiles show their own respective notifications, and notifications pop-up on the 
lock screen as they come in.  But, if you miss a notification, there’s no area 
to view all the live notifications at a glance.  I'm sure someone will write an 
app for it eventually.

 

 



Sent from Windows Mail


From: Sam Cayze
Sent: ‎November‎ ‎27‎, ‎2012 ‎4‎:‎26‎ ‎PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8




Gosh, been following this thread closely, must say I’m very eager to give a 
Windows Phone another go now.  


First of all, any online emulators? That would answer a gazillion questions I 
and others have.  I know with Android you can download a SDK and run the OS in 
a virtual machine.  Anything similar?


So here’s my main question:

 

I’m very accustomed to accessing all my important information at a quick glance 
on my lockscreen (without even unlocking my phone). Just a quick tap of the 
power button I can view:

Outside temp

Forecast

Upcoming meetings / calendar

Unread email/SMS count

Battery level

And with one gesture I can read all my notifications.

There are many other options too. Pretty much anything you can put in a widget, 
you can access.

And I haven’t even had to unlock my phone yet…

 

Can this quick visibility also be easily achieved on a Win8 phone?  If so, I’d 
seriously consider it.

 

 



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

 

I have been using it for 2 weeks now and have found it to be easier to use and 
slightly more accurate than Google maps is on my Android phone. (Since I have 
one of each I do searches, directions and locating using both simultaneously.) 
So far my WP8 maps have placed me at a truer location than my Android phone 
does. Android is usually accurate within a half block, WP8 puts me right where 
I am, but that is me in this city so YMMV. Driving directions have been 
basically the same, and I must admit to never having tried the traffic part of 
the maps app since there is no traffic to speak of in Tulsa so I never have to 
worry about avoiding it. J

Tim

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

 

Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the back 
end for wp8?


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:


If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared to 
iPhone and Android

I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I look 
at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just depressing.

Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) ) and 
many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android just 
aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public transport, book 
taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don’t exist, nor does Google Maps. Bing 
search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just rubbish in every other 
country I've tried). Everything else, there's about one main option on WP, 
instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID (e.g. one for work, one 
for personal, one for Messenger), then working out how to get these to work 
together on your phone is a pain.

Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts - and 
this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial mode for 
all the games, so you don’t have to buy up-front.

Cheers
Ken



-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]



Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet 
for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel 
liberated.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues 
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with 
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we 
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday 
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a 
few days to see if the coolness wears off.


--

RE: windows phone 8

[John Cook]

We've been kicking around the possibility of adding a second type of device 
(yes we're keeping the Blackberries) so I just got my boss to order me the HTC 
8x, we shall see how it pans out.

 John W. Cook
Network Operations Manager
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Gosh, been following this thread closely, must say I'm very eager to give a 
Windows Phone another go now.

First of all, any online emulators? That would answer a gazillion questions I 
and others have.  I know with Android you can download a SDK and run the OS in 
a virtual machine.  Anything similar?

So here's my main question:

I'm very accustomed to accessing all my important information at a quick glance 
on my lockscreen (without even unlocking my phone). Just a quick tap of the 
power button I can view:
Outside temp
Forecast
Upcoming meetings / calendar
Unread email/SMS count
Battery level
And with one gesture I can read all my notifications.
There are many other options too. Pretty much anything you can put in a widget, 
you can access.
And I haven't even had to unlock my phone yet...

Can this quick visibility also be easily achieved on a Win8 phone?  If so, I'd 
seriously consider it.


From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have been using it for 2 weeks now and have found it to be easier to use and 
slightly more accurate than Google maps is on my Android phone. (Since I have 
one of each I do searches, directions and locating using both simultaneously.) 
So far my WP8 maps have placed me at a truer location than my Android phone 
does. Android is usually accurate within a half block, WP8 puts me right where 
I am, but that is me in this city so YMMV. Driving directions have been 
basically the same, and I must admit to never having tried the traffic part of 
the maps app since there is no traffic to speak of in Tulsa so I never have to 
worry about avoiding it. :)
Tim

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the back 
end for wp8?
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared to 
iPhone and Android

I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I look 
at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just depressing.

Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) ) and 
many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android just 
aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public transport, book 
taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don't exist, nor does Google Maps. Bing 
search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just rubbish in every other 
country I've tried). Everything else, there's about one main option on WP, 
instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID (e.g. one for work, one 
for personal, one for Messenger), then working out how to get these to work 
together on your phone is a pain.

Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts - and 
this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial mode for 
all the games, so you don't have to buy up-front.

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet 
for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel 
liberated.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com<mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com>]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues 
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with 
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we 
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday 
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM

RE: windows phone 8

[Sam Cayze]

CM10 just got a stable release for many devices.
I usually stay stock, but had some time and wanted to play around.
So glad I did.  It's rock solid on my EVO LTE, and the new photosphere camera 
feature is awesome.  As is Google Now.  And many other features...

Sam



-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 6:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

Oops. I meant CM9. I typed 8. Can't wait for 10.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Andrew S. Baker
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
13:48:03 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8


> Put CyanogenMod9 on that device, pronto. :)  My touchpad is loving it.
> 
> Android is quirky.  Not so bad when you get the pure variants, but 
> because of the hardware differences, even rooting is awkward.  My 
> Droid RAZR can't get a CyanogenMod9 or 10 for a while, and Eclipse, 
> while a nice ROM, was missing some things I cared about.
> 
> My Verizon updates have made things slower than not, and they just 
> released v4.0, so who knows when I'll even see v4.1 much less v4.2?
> 
> No thanks. The land of mobile anarchy is not for me.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *ASB*
> 
> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>**
> 
> *Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…*
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> wrote:
> 
> > > Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone 
> > > and
> > tablet
> > > for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  
> > > I feel liberated.
> >
> > I'm curious: What's liberating?
> >
> > I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I 
> > am still using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I 
> > have an HP Touchpad with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience 
> > with iOS 6 and
> ICS.
> >
> > What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better?
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Rod Trent
> > [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> > Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
> > 12:14:38 -0800
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> >
> > > Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone 
> > > and
> > tablet
> > > for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  
> > > I feel liberated.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> > >
> > > I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of 
> > > the
> > issues
> > > mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We 
> > > went
> with
> > > different phones based on personal preference regarding size and 
> > > feel
> > and we
> > > are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
> > > I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior 
> > > for
> > everyday
> > > use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> > >
> > > I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, 
> > > so give
> > me
> > > a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> > >
> > > Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and 
> > > heavier
> > and
> > > less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec 
> > > to the
> > 8X,
> > > but think as something to carry around all day every day I might 
>

RE: windows phone 8

[Sam Cayze]

Gosh, been following this thread closely, must say I’m very eager to give a
Windows Phone another go now.  


First of all, any online emulators? That would answer a gazillion questions
I and others have.  I know with Android you can download a SDK and run the
OS in a virtual machine.  Anything similar?


So here’s my main question:

 

I’m very accustomed to accessing all my important information at a quick
glance on my lockscreen (without even unlocking my phone). Just a quick tap
of the power button I can view:

Outside temp

Forecast

Upcoming meetings / calendar

Unread email/SMS count

Battery level

And with one gesture I can read all my notifications.

There are many other options too. Pretty much anything you can put in a
widget, you can access.

And I haven’t even had to unlock my phone yet…

 

Can this quick visibility also be easily achieved on a Win8 phone?  If so,
I’d seriously consider it.

 

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

 

I have been using it for 2 weeks now and have found it to be easier to use
and slightly more accurate than Google maps is on my Android phone. (Since I
have one of each I do searches, directions and locating using both
simultaneously.) So far my WP8 maps have placed me at a truer location than
my Android phone does. Android is usually accurate within a half block, WP8
puts me right where I am, but that is me in this city so YMMV. Driving
directions have been basically the same, and I must admit to never having
tried the traffic part of the maps app since there is no traffic to speak of
in Tulsa so I never have to worry about avoiding it. J

Tim

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

 

Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the
back end for wp8?

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:

If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared to
iPhone and Android

I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I
look at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just
depressing.

Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) ) and
many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android just
aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public transport,
book taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don’t exist, nor does Google
Maps. Bing search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just rubbish in
every other country I've tried). Everything else, there's about one main
option on WP, instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID (e.g. one
for work, one for personal, one for Messenger), then working out how to get
these to work together on your phone is a pain.

Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts -
and this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial
mode for all the games, so you don’t have to buy up-front.

Cheers
Ken


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet
for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel
liberated.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me
a few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X,
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT Syste

RE: windows phone 8

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I have been using it for 2 weeks now and have found it to be easier to use and 
slightly more accurate than Google maps is on my Android phone. (Since I have 
one of each I do searches, directions and locating using both simultaneously.) 
So far my WP8 maps have placed me at a truer location than my Android phone 
does. Android is usually accurate within a half block, WP8 puts me right where 
I am, but that is me in this city so YMMV. Driving directions have been 
basically the same, and I must admit to never having tried the traffic part of 
the maps app since there is no traffic to speak of in Tulsa so I never have to 
worry about avoiding it. :)
Tim

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the back 
end for wp8?
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared to 
iPhone and Android

I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I look 
at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just depressing.

Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) ) and 
many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android just 
aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public transport, book 
taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don't exist, nor does Google Maps. Bing 
search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just rubbish in every other 
country I've tried). Everything else, there's about one main option on WP, 
instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID (e.g. one for work, one 
for personal, one for Messenger), then working out how to get these to work 
together on your phone is a pain.

Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts - and 
this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial mode for 
all the games, so you don't have to buy up-front.

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet 
for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel 
liberated.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com<mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com>]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues 
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with 
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we 
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday 
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a 
few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies 
[mailto:adav...@cls-services.com<mailto:adav...@cls-services.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and 
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, 
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the 
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org<mailto:joeu...@chronic.org> 
[mailto:joeu...@chronic.org<mailto:joeu...@chronic.org>]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck mailto:sep...@gmail.com>>
> Date: Mon, November 19, 

Maps: WAS: windows phone 8

[Matthew W. Ross]

I downloaded the "Here" app from nokia on iOS. It's a quite decent map app, as 
far as I can tell. I add it to my list of tried-and-accepted map apps:

Here
Google Maps(RIP)
Bing Maps
Waze
Mapquest


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Steven Peck
[mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tue, 27 Nov 2012
08:15:06 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8


> Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the
> back end for wp8?
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:
> 
> > If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared
> > to iPhone and Android
> >
> > I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I
> > look at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just
> > depressing.
> >
> > Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) )
> > and many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android
> > just aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public
> > transport, book taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don’t exist, nor
> > does Google Maps. Bing search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just
> > rubbish in every other country I've tried). Everything else, there's about
> > one main option on WP, instead of several. If you have more than one
> LiveID
> > (e.g. one for work, one for personal, one for Messenger), then working out
> > how to get these to work together on your phone is a pain.
> >
> > Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts -
> > and this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial
> > mode for all the games, so you don’t have to buy up-front.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ken
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and
> > tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I
> > feel liberated.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the
> > issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We
> went
> > with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel
> > and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
> > I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
> > everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> > Tim
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give
> > me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier
> > and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to
> > the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might
> go
> > down the HTC route ...
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung
> > screens.
> >
> > The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed
> > up an hour or so ago.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life
> >
> &

Re: windows phone 8

[Steven Peck]

Are the maps still lacking since they switched to using Nokia maps in the
back end for wp8?

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:

> If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared
> to iPhone and Android
>
> I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I
> look at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just
> depressing.
>
> Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) )
> and many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android
> just aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public
> transport, book taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don’t exist, nor
> does Google Maps. Bing search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just
> rubbish in every other country I've tried). Everything else, there's about
> one main option on WP, instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID
> (e.g. one for work, one for personal, one for Messenger), then working out
> how to get these to work together on your phone is a pain.
>
> Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts -
> and this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial
> mode for all the games, so you don’t have to buy up-front.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and
> tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I
> feel liberated.
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the
> issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went
> with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel
> and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
> I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
> everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> Tim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give
> me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier
> and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to
> the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go
> down the HTC route ...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung
> screens.
>
> The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed
> up an hour or so ago.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life
>
> Regards,
> joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
>
> "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
>
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> > From: Steven Peck 
> > Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> >
> >
> > It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC
> > because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just
> purchased.
> > My wife's been lasting as well.
> >
>
>
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RE: windows phone 8

[Ken Schaefer]

Also, you have to change your settings to English (US) to get a bunch of apps 
to show up (e.g. AroundMe). I have always just assumed that this is because the 
developer has said that it supports English (US) rather than English 
(UK)/English (Australia)/English(Singapore)/English(…). Changing this setting, 
in turn, requires a reboot of your phone.

Cheers
Ken

From: rodtr...@myitforum.com [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 12:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have friends in the UK who have recently picked up the Lumias.  I’ll have to 
see what they think.

Sent from Windows Mail

From: Ken Schaefer
Sent: ‎November‎ ‎26‎, ‎2012 ‎7‎:‎47‎ ‎PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared to 
iPhone and Android

I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I look 
at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just depressing.

Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) ) and 
many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android just 
aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public transport, book 
taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don’t exist, nor does Google Maps. Bing 
search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just rubbish in every other 
country I've tried). Everything else, there's about one main option on WP, 
instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID (e.g. one for work, one 
for personal, one for Messenger), then working out how to get these to work 
together on your phone is a pain.

Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts - and 
this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial mode for 
all the games, so you don’t have to buy up-front.

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet 
for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel 
liberated.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues 
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with 
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we 
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday 
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a 
few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and 
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, 
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the 
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck 
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>
>
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC
> because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
> purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
>


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RE: windows phone 8

[rodtrent]

I have friends in the UK who have recently picked up the Lumias.  I’ll have to 
see what they think.



Sent from Windows Mail


From: Ken Schaefer
Sent: ‎November‎ ‎26‎, ‎2012 ‎7‎:‎47‎ ‎PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8


If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared to 
iPhone and Android

I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I look 
at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just depressing.

Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) ) and 
many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android just 
aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public transport, book 
taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don’t exist, nor does Google Maps. Bing 
search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just rubbish in every other 
country I've tried). Everything else, there's about one main option on WP, 
instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID (e.g. one for work, one 
for personal, one for Messenger), then working out how to get these to work 
together on your phone is a pain.

Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts - and 
this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial mode for 
all the games, so you don’t have to buy up-front.

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet 
for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel 
liberated.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues 
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with 
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we 
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday 
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a 
few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and 
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, 
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the 
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck 
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> 
> 
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
> because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
> purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
> 


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RE: windows phone 8

[Ken Schaefer]

If you are outside the US, then Windows Phone is sadly lacking, compared to 
iPhone and Android

I've been a big WinMo/WP user (and currently have an Omnia 7), but when I look 
at the apps and info available on iPhone and Android, it's just depressing.

Mapping is poor on WP (well, maybe not compared to the latest IOS5 :) ) and 
many of the apps you'd love to use as a traveller on iPhone or Android just 
aren't available (e.g. apps to find local restaurants, public transport, book 
taxis). Apps like Instagram and Pandora don’t exist, nor does Google Maps. Bing 
search is poor (maybe not in the US, but it's just rubbish in every other 
country I've tried). Everything else, there's about one main option on WP, 
instead of several. If you have more than one LiveID (e.g. one for work, one 
for personal, one for Messenger), then working out how to get these to work 
together on your phone is a pain.

Personally I don't care for Facebook integration with my phone contacts - and 
this is probably the one thing that WP does well. And there's a trial mode for 
all the games, so you don’t have to buy up-front.

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet 
for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel 
liberated.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues 
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with 
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we 
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday 
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a 
few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and 
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, 
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the 
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck 
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> 
> 
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
> because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
> purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
> 


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RE: windows phone 8

[Matthew W. Ross]

Sounds good. I hope I get the chance to play with one sometime.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Tim Vander Kooi
[mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
16:29:35 -0800
Subject: RE: windows phone 8


> I can tell you that from my POV the People Hub (instead of Contacts) is a
> much nicer way to interact with people. I show my friends with Android or
> iOS phones how you can post to someone's Facebook wall, post to Twitter
> regarding them, IM them, text them, call any number of phones that they
> might have and more all from one spot and they start drooling all over
> themselves. The built in family room and other rooms is awesome for anyone
> with kids. Yes, I know that you can setup shared calendars and such in
> Google and then access them from your phone, but the way that Windows Phone
> has it built in and configured makes it SO much nicer and easier to use.
> Accessing apps is much easier with Windows Phone and the intelligence behind
> typing on the Windows Phone keyboard is truly amazing. The WP intelligent
> typing does not just suggest spelling corrections like Google or Apple
> phones do, it actually looks at WHAT you are typing and suggests the next
> work based on the entire sentence and thoughts being typed. I have sent
> messages where I only had to type the first letter and then tap the words in
> the "auto-correct" line. After using that feature going back to my Android
> phone that I use for work is very much like picking up a chisel and piece of
> slate. Try it, you will be amazed, and it improves with use as it gets to
> know you. The speech typing is far superior to Android's also in my
> experience. There is a lot more to it, but those are a few of the biggies.
> Regards,
> Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:24 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> > Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and 
> > tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win 
> > devices.  I feel liberated.
> 
> I'm curious: What's liberating?
> 
> I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am still
> using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP Touchpad
> with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS.
> 
> What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better?
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Rod Trent
> [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
> 12:14:38 -0800
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> 
> > Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and 
> > tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win 
> > devices.  I feel liberated.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> > 
> > I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the 
> > issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We 
> > went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size 
> > and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks
> later.
> > I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for 
> > everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> > Tim
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> > 
> > I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so 
> > give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> > 
> > Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and 
> > heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 
> > in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day 
> > every day I might go down the HTC route ...
> > 
> > 
>

RE: windows phone 8

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I can tell you that from my POV the People Hub (instead of Contacts) is a much 
nicer way to interact with people. I show my friends with Android or iOS phones 
how you can post to someone's Facebook wall, post to Twitter regarding them, IM 
them, text them, call any number of phones that they might have and more all 
from one spot and they start drooling all over themselves. The built in family 
room and other rooms is awesome for anyone with kids. Yes, I know that you can 
setup shared calendars and such in Google and then access them from your phone, 
but the way that Windows Phone has it built in and configured makes it SO much 
nicer and easier to use. Accessing apps is much easier with Windows Phone and 
the intelligence behind typing on the Windows Phone keyboard is truly amazing. 
The WP intelligent typing does not just suggest spelling corrections like 
Google or Apple phones do, it actually looks at WHAT you are typing and 
suggests the next work based on the entire sentence and thoughts being typed. I 
have sent messages where I only had to type the first letter and then tap the 
words in the "auto-correct" line. After using that feature going back to my 
Android phone that I use for work is very much like picking up a chisel and 
piece of slate. Try it, you will be amazed, and it improves with use as it gets 
to know you. The speech typing is far superior to Android's also in my 
experience. There is a lot more to it, but those are a few of the biggies.
Regards,
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

> Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and 
> tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win 
> devices.  I feel liberated.

I'm curious: What's liberating?

I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am still 
using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP Touchpad 
with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS.

What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Rod Trent
[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
12:14:38 -0800
Subject: RE: windows phone 8


> Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and 
> tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win 
> devices.  I feel liberated.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the 
> issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We 
> went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size 
> and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
> I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for 
> everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so 
> give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and 
> heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 
> in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day 
> every day I might go down the HTC route ...
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and 
> hung screens.
> 
> The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just 
> showed up an hour or so ago.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life
> 
> Regards,
> joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
> 
> "...now these

Re: windows phone 8

[Matthew W. Ross]

Oops. I meant CM9. I typed 8. Can't wait for 10.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Andrew S. Baker
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
13:48:03 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8


> Put CyanogenMod9 on that device, pronto. :)  My touchpad is loving it.
> 
> Android is quirky.  Not so bad when you get the pure variants, but because
> of the hardware differences, even rooting is awkward.  My Droid RAZR can't
> get a CyanogenMod9 or 10 for a while, and Eclipse, while a nice ROM, was
> missing some things I cared about.
> 
> My Verizon updates have made things slower than not, and they just released
> v4.0, so who knows when I'll even see v4.1 much less v4.2?
> 
> No thanks. The land of mobile anarchy is not for me.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *ASB*
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> wrote:
> 
> > > Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and
> > tablet
> > > for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel
> > > liberated.
> >
> > I'm curious: What's liberating?
> >
> > I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am
> > still using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP
> > Touchpad with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and
> ICS.
> >
> > What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better?
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Rod Trent
> > [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> > Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
> > 12:14:38 -0800
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> >
> > > Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and
> > tablet
> > > for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel
> > > liberated.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> > >
> > > I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the
> > issues
> > > mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went
> with
> > > different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel
> > and we
> > > are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
> > > I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
> > everyday
> > > use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> > >
> > > I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give
> > me
> > > a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> > >
> > > Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier
> > and
> > > less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the
> > 8X,
> > > but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down
> > the
> > > HTC route ...
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > > Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> > >
> > > Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and
> hung
> > > screens.
> > >
> > > The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed
> > up
> > > an hour or so ago.
> > >
> >

Re: windows phone 8

[Steven Peck]

A co-worker said his girlfriends phone had the battery life issue so he did
the factory reset on it and she hasn't had a problem since.  Just FYI.

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Stefan Jafs  wrote:

> Same here I evaluate phones for the company, this is my fourth phone this
> year, BB, iPhone, Galaxy and now Nokia 920, I totally 100+ what Rod had to
> say, It just feels clean and easy to use
> Stefan
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Rod Trent  wrote:
>
>> Android is pretty much open space to do with what you want.  But, to tell
>> you the truth, it became a chore just managing apps, and app locations, etc.
>>
>> Plus, there's the whole Google tracks everything you do thing.
>>
>> I've been down just about every tablet/phone road.  Touchpad, Android,
>> iOS.  It's not something I can put my finger on, just that the Windows 8
>> interface makes you *want* to use it.  It's really hard to describe.
>>  Windows 8 UI makes iOS and Android feel old and tired.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>>
>> > Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and
>> > tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win
>> > devices.  I feel liberated.
>>
>> I'm curious: What's liberating?
>>
>> I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am
>> still using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP
>> Touchpad with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS.
>>
>> What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better?
>>
>>
>> --Matt Ross
>> Ephrata School District
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Rod Trent
>> [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
>> Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
>> 12:14:38 -0800
>> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>>
>>
>> > Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and
>> > tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win
>> > devices.  I feel liberated.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>> >
>> > I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the
>> > issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We
>> > went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size
>> > and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks
>> later.
>> > I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
>> > everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
>> > Tim
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>> >
>> > I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so
>> > give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>> >
>> > Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and
>> > heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920
>> > in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day
>> > every day I might go down the HTC route ...
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
>> > Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>> >
>> > Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and
>> > hung screens.
>> >
>> > The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just
>> > showed up an hour or so ago.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> >

Re: windows phone 8

[Andrew S. Baker]

Worth a consideration, but the timing is not yet right :)





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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Kennedy, Jim
wrote:

>  And Andrew, there is a cyber Monday deal at VZ today.  The 920 is free.
> Call them and beg, can’t hurt.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim
> *Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 3:27 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: windows phone 8
>
>  ** **
>
> Fwiw I have often gotten upgrades from them before the contract is up.  I
> have been successful as much as 5 months ahead of time.  They have a system
> to ‘mark’ valued customers based on how long you have been there, how much
> you spend, how much trouble you have been and how quickly you pay your bill.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Sometimes you have to call back two or three times. Also early in the week
> is better according to my sources. Sunday evening or Monday morning.
>
> ** **
>
> I will be calling them this weekend to get my Note 2.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: windows phone 8
>
> ** **
>
> *>>**I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
> everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.*
>
> ** **
>
> This is what I've been hearing from a number of people, and I'm looking
> forward to moving away from Android as well, as soon as my contract with
> Verizon is up.
>
>
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *ASB*
>
> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>
>
> *Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…*
>
>  
>
> ** **
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
> wrote:
>
> I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the
> issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went
> with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel
> and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
> I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
> everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> Tim
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give
> me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier
> and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to
> the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go
> down the HTC route ...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung
> screens.
>
> The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed
> up an hour or so ago.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life
>
> Regards,
> joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
>
> "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
>
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> > From: Steven Peck 
> > Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> >
> >
> > It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC
> > because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just
> purchased.
> > My wife's been lasting as well.
> >
>
>
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Re: windows phone 8

[Andrew S. Baker]

Put CyanogenMod9 on that device, pronto. :)  My touchpad is loving it.

Android is quirky.  Not so bad when you get the pure variants, but because
of the hardware differences, even rooting is awkward.  My Droid RAZR can't
get a CyanogenMod9 or 10 for a while, and Eclipse, while a nice ROM, was
missing some things I cared about.

My Verizon updates have made things slower than not, and they just released
v4.0, so who knows when I'll even see v4.1 much less v4.2?

No thanks. The land of mobile anarchy is not for me.






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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Matthew W. Ross
wrote:

> > Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and
> tablet
> > for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel
> > liberated.
>
> I'm curious: What's liberating?
>
> I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am
> still using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP
> Touchpad with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS.
>
> What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better?
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Rod Trent
> [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
> 12:14:38 -0800
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
>
> > Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and
> tablet
> > for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel
> > liberated.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the
> issues
> > mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with
> > different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel
> and we
> > are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
> > I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
> everyday
> > use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> > Tim
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give
> me
> > a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier
> and
> > less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the
> 8X,
> > but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down
> the
> > HTC route ...
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung
> > screens.
> >
> > The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed
> up
> > an hour or so ago.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life
> >
> > Regards,
> > joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
> >
> > "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
> >
> > >  Original Message 
> > > Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> > > From: Steven Peck 
> > > Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> > > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> > >
> > >
> > > It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC
> > > because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad base

RE: windows phone 8

[Rod Trent]

We know that all companies track for various reasons.  However, Google tracks 
for more nefarious reasons.

Number 1: they make money off of tracking you.
Number 2: do some research on Google's ties to the US gov't.

Apple and Microsoft may track you, but their revenue stream is quite a bit 
different. 



-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

And you don't think (MS|Apple|Whomever) is tracking you?

Well if the WP8 interface is the same as the Window 8 RT interface, I'll be 
less than enthusiastic. I guess I'll have to try one out to be sure. 


--Matt Ross

On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:55 PM, "Rod Trent"  wrote:

> Android is pretty much open space to do with what you want.  But, to tell you 
> the truth, it became a chore just managing apps, and app locations, etc.
> 
> Plus, there's the whole Google tracks everything you do thing.
> 
> I've been down just about every tablet/phone road.  Touchpad, Android, iOS.  
> It's not something I can put my finger on, just that the Windows 8 interface 
> makes you *want* to use it.  It's really hard to describe.  Windows 8 UI 
> makes iOS and Android feel old and tired.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
>> Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and 
>> tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win 
>> devices.  I feel liberated.
> 
> I'm curious: What's liberating?
> 
> I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am still 
> using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP Touchpad 
> with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS.
> 
> What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better?
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> 
> - Original Message -----
> From: Rod Trent
> [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
> 12:14:38 -0800
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> 
>> Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and 
>> tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win 
>> devices.  I feel liberated.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>> 
>> I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the 
>> issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. 
>> We went with different phones based on personal preference regarding 
>> size and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks 
>> later.
>> I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for 
>> everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
>> Tim
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>> 
>> I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so 
>> give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>> 
>> Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and 
>> heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 
>> in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day 
>> every day I might go down the HTC route ...
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
>> Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>> 
>> Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and 
>> hung screens.
>> 
>> The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just 
>> showed up an hour or so ago.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
>> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM

Re: windows phone 8

[Stefan Jafs]

Same here I evaluate phones for the company, this is my fourth phone this
year, BB, iPhone, Galaxy and now Nokia 920, I totally 100+ what Rod had to
say, It just feels clean and easy to use
Stefan
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Rod Trent  wrote:

> Android is pretty much open space to do with what you want.  But, to tell
> you the truth, it became a chore just managing apps, and app locations, etc.
>
> Plus, there's the whole Google tracks everything you do thing.
>
> I've been down just about every tablet/phone road.  Touchpad, Android,
> iOS.  It's not something I can put my finger on, just that the Windows 8
> interface makes you *want* to use it.  It's really hard to describe.
>  Windows 8 UI makes iOS and Android feel old and tired.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> > Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and
> > tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win
> > devices.  I feel liberated.
>
> I'm curious: What's liberating?
>
> I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am
> still using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP
> Touchpad with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS.
>
> What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better?
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Rod Trent
> [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
> 12:14:38 -0800
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
>
> > Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and
> > tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win
> > devices.  I feel liberated.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the
> > issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We
> > went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size
> > and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks
> later.
> > I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
> > everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> > Tim
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so
> > give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and
> > heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920
> > in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day
> > every day I might go down the HTC route ...
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> > Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and
> > hung screens.
> >
> > The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just
> > showed up an hour or so ago.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> >
> > Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life
> >
> > Regards,
> > joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
> >
> > "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
> >
> > >  Original Message 
> > > Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> > > From: Steven Peck 
> > > Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> > >

Re: windows phone 8

[Matthew W. Ross]

And you don't think (MS|Apple|Whomever) is tracking you?

Well if the WP8 interface is the same as the Window 8 RT interface, I'll be 
less than enthusiastic. I guess I'll have to try one out to be sure. 


--Matt Ross

On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:55 PM, "Rod Trent"  wrote:

> Android is pretty much open space to do with what you want.  But, to tell you 
> the truth, it became a chore just managing apps, and app locations, etc.
> 
> Plus, there's the whole Google tracks everything you do thing.
> 
> I've been down just about every tablet/phone road.  Touchpad, Android, iOS.  
> It's not something I can put my finger on, just that the Windows 8 interface 
> makes you *want* to use it.  It's really hard to describe.  Windows 8 UI 
> makes iOS and Android feel old and tired.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
>> Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and 
>> tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win 
>> devices.  I feel liberated.
> 
> I'm curious: What's liberating?
> 
> I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am still 
> using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP Touchpad 
> with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS.
> 
> What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better?
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Rod Trent
> [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
> 12:14:38 -0800
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> 
>> Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and 
>> tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win 
>> devices.  I feel liberated.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>> 
>> I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the 
>> issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We 
>> went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size 
>> and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
>> I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for 
>> everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
>> Tim
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>> 
>> I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so 
>> give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>> 
>> Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and 
>> heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 
>> in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day 
>> every day I might go down the HTC route ...
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
>> Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>> 
>> Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and 
>> hung screens.
>> 
>> The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just 
>> showed up an hour or so ago.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
>> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>> 
>> Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life
>> 
>> Regards,
>> joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
>> 
>> "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
>> 
>>>  Original Message 
>>> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
>>> From: Steven Peck 
>>> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43

RE: windows phone 8

[Rod Trent]

I had the new Razr Maxx for over 90 days, and they allowed me to trade it in
for the HTC 8x.

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

 

Fwiw I have often gotten upgrades from them before the contract is up.  I
have been successful as much as 5 months ahead of time.  They have a system
to ‘mark’ valued customers based on how long you have been there, how much
you spend, how much trouble you have been and how quickly you pay your bill.

 

Sometimes you have to call back two or three times. Also early in the week
is better according to my sources. Sunday evening or Monday morning.

 

I will be calling them this weekend to get my Note 2.

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

 

>>I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.

 

This is what I've been hearing from a number of people, and I'm looking
forward to moving away from Android as well, as soon as my contract with
Verizon is up.




 

 


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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
wrote:

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me
a few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X,
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up
an hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck 
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>
>
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC
> because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just
purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
>


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RE: windows phone 8

[Rod Trent]

Android is pretty much open space to do with what you want.  But, to tell you 
the truth, it became a chore just managing apps, and app locations, etc.

Plus, there's the whole Google tracks everything you do thing.

I've been down just about every tablet/phone road.  Touchpad, Android, iOS.  
It's not something I can put my finger on, just that the Windows 8 interface 
makes you *want* to use it.  It's really hard to describe.  Windows 8 UI makes 
iOS and Android feel old and tired.



-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

> Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and 
> tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win 
> devices.  I feel liberated.

I'm curious: What's liberating?

I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am still 
using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP Touchpad 
with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS.

What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Rod Trent
[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
12:14:38 -0800
Subject: RE: windows phone 8


> Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and 
> tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win 
> devices.  I feel liberated.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the 
> issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We 
> went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size 
> and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
> I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for 
> everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so 
> give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and 
> heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 
> in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day 
> every day I might go down the HTC route ...
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and 
> hung screens.
> 
> The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just 
> showed up an hour or so ago.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life
> 
> Regards,
> joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
> 
> "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
> 
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> > From: Steven Peck 
> > Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> > 
> > 
> > It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
> > because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, 
> > just
> purchased.
> > My wife's been lasting as well.
> > 
> 
> 
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RE: windows phone 8

[Rod Trent]

Windows Phone is available on Verizon, too.  

 

I’d never go WP8 unless it was available on Verizon.  Not wanting to trade
one woe for another.

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

 

>>I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.

 

This is what I've been hearing from a number of people, and I'm looking
forward to moving away from Android as well, as soon as my contract with
Verizon is up.




 

 


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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
wrote:

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me
a few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X,
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up
an hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck 
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>
>
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC
> because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just
purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
>


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RE: windows phone 8

[Kennedy, Jim]

And Andrew, there is a cyber Monday deal at VZ today.  The 920 is free. Call 
them and beg, can't hurt.

From: Kennedy, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Fwiw I have often gotten upgrades from them before the contract is up.  I have 
been successful as much as 5 months ahead of time.  They have a system to 
'mark' valued customers based on how long you have been there, how much you 
spend, how much trouble you have been and how quickly you pay your bill.

Sometimes you have to call back two or three times. Also early in the week is 
better according to my sources. Sunday evening or Monday morning.

I will be calling them this weekend to get my Note 2.

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

>>I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday 
>>use and don't even get me going on battery life.

This is what I've been hearing from a number of people, and I'm looking forward 
to moving away from Android as well, as soon as my contract with Verizon is up.






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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com>> wrote:
I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues 
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with 
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we 
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday 
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a 
few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies 
[mailto:adav...@cls-services.com<mailto:adav...@cls-services.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and 
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, 
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the 
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org<mailto:joeu...@chronic.org> 
[mailto:joeu...@chronic.org<mailto:joeu...@chronic.org>]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck mailto:sep...@gmail.com>>
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
>
>
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC
> because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
> purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
>


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RE: windows phone 8

[Kennedy, Jim]

Fwiw I have often gotten upgrades from them before the contract is up.  I have 
been successful as much as 5 months ahead of time.  They have a system to 
'mark' valued customers based on how long you have been there, how much you 
spend, how much trouble you have been and how quickly you pay your bill.

Sometimes you have to call back two or three times. Also early in the week is 
better according to my sources. Sunday evening or Monday morning.

I will be calling them this weekend to get my Note 2.

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

>>I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday 
>>use and don't even get me going on battery life.

This is what I've been hearing from a number of people, and I'm looking forward 
to moving away from Android as well, as soon as my contract with Verizon is up.






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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com>> wrote:
I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues 
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with 
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we 
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday 
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a 
few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies 
[mailto:adav...@cls-services.com<mailto:adav...@cls-services.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and 
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, 
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the 
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org<mailto:joeu...@chronic.org> 
[mailto:joeu...@chronic.org<mailto:joeu...@chronic.org>]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck mailto:sep...@gmail.com>>
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
>
>
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC
> because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
> purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
>


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RE: windows phone 8

[Matthew W. Ross]

> Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet
> for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel
> liberated.

I'm curious: What's liberating?

I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am still 
using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP Touchpad 
with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS.

What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Rod Trent
[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
12:14:38 -0800
Subject: RE: windows phone 8


> Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet
> for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel
> liberated.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues
> mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with
> different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we
> are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
> I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday
> use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me
> a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and
> less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X,
> but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the
> HTC route ...
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung
> screens.
> 
> The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up
> an hour or so ago.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> 
> Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life
> 
> Regards,
> joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
> 
> "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
> 
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> > From: Steven Peck 
> > Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> > 
> > 
> > It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
> > because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just
> purchased.
> > My wife's been lasting as well.
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: windows phone 8

[Andrew S. Baker]

*>>I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.*

This is what I've been hearing from a number of people, and I'm looking
forward to moving away from Android as well, as soon as my contract with
Verizon is up.





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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Tim Vander Kooi wrote:

> I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the
> issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went
> with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel
> and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
> I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
> everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> Tim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give
> me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier
> and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to
> the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go
> down the HTC route ...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung
> screens.
>
> The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed
> up an hour or so ago.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life
>
> Regards,
> joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
>
> "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
>
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> > From: Steven Peck 
> > Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> >
> >
> > It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC
> > because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just
> purchased.
> > My wife's been lasting as well.
> >
>
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RE: windows phone 8

[Rod Trent]

Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet 
for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel 
liberated.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues 
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with 
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we 
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday 
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a 
few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and 
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, 
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the 
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

> ---- Original Message 
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck 
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> 
> 
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
> because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
> purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
> 


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Re: windows phone 8

[Stefan Jafs]

I finally got my Nokia 920 last week, changed from a Galaxy III S, what a
breath of fresh air, s. . . . simple to use.
Battery life 2 days? Right now it's been running 9 hours I have 77% left
and the estimated time remaining is 22 hours.
OK so I'm not a very heavy user but still it's very good. I really like
this phone, yes it's a bit heavy but I rather have a bit heavy than i phone
that does not last a full day. Actually the III S did last a whole day as
long as i had the battery saver turned on.

Stefan
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Tim Vander Kooi wrote:

> I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the
> issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went
> with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel
> and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
> I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
> everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
> Tim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give
> me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier
> and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to
> the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go
> down the HTC route ...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung
> screens.
>
> The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed
> up an hour or so ago.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life
>
> Regards,
> joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
>
> "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
>
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> > From: Steven Peck 
> > Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> >
> >
> > It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC
> > because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just
> purchased.
> > My wife's been lasting as well.
> >
>
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RE: windows phone 8

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues 
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with 
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we 
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday 
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a 
few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and 
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, 
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the 
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

> ---- Original Message 
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck 
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> 
> 
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
> because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
> purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
> 


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RE: windows phone 8

[Rod Trent]

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a 
few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and 
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, 
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the 
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck 
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> 
> 
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
> because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
> purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
> 


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RE: windows phone 8

[Alan Davies]

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and 
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, 
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the 
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck 
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> 
> 
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
> because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
> purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
> 


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Re: windows phone 8

[Steve Ens]

There was some talk on the interwebs about Germany selling out of their
stock on the 920'snicht schecht!


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:52 PM,  wrote:

> It will only get better as it continues to gain momentum. Esp. with Win
> 8.
> Most apps are on par with or better than the Droid & iOS  equivalent.
> Still hear cries though, Where is Instagram? Etc. (Answer = Soon).
> Of all 3 options that I deal with: iOS, Droid, & WP. I have never had to
> "work" on the WP.
>
>
> Regards,
> joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
>
> "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
>
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> > From: Tim Vander Kooi 
> > Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 1:10 pm
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> >
> >
> > I have got the new HTC 8X for personal use that I use side by side with
> an EVO 4G LTE and the 8X has got easily twice the battery life that the EVO
> does.
> >
> > I will second what Stephen said regarding apps also as that seems to be
> what people jump to first when knocking Windows Phone. I have found an
> equivalent app on my Windows Phone for every Android app I used (and I used
> lots as I used it for business and personal and have been using Android for
> over 2 years) with the exception of SongPop and Dice with Buddies (not
> earth shattering losses in the grand scheme of life, plus they are both
> available on Facebook if they are really needed). I use some fairly unusual
> apps like EventBrite and still the Windows Store had them all.
> >
> > If you get a chance to try out a Windows Phone 8, one look at the People
> Hub will convince you that Android and iOS have some catching up to do.
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RE: windows phone 8

[joeuser]

It will only get better as it continues to gain momentum. Esp. with Win
8.
Most apps are on par with or better than the Droid & iOS  equivalent.
Still hear cries though, Where is Instagram? Etc. (Answer = Soon).
Of all 3 options that I deal with: iOS, Droid, & WP. I have never had to
"work" on the WP. 


Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> From: Tim Vander Kooi 
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 1:10 pm
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> 
> 
> I have got the new HTC 8X for personal use that I use side by side with an 
> EVO 4G LTE and the 8X has got easily twice the battery life that the EVO does.
> 
> I will second what Stephen said regarding apps also as that seems to be what 
> people jump to first when knocking Windows Phone. I have found an equivalent 
> app on my Windows Phone for every Android app I used (and I used lots as I 
> used it for business and personal and have been using Android for over 2 
> years) with the exception of SongPop and Dice with Buddies (not earth 
> shattering losses in the grand scheme of life, plus they are both available 
> on Facebook if they are really needed). I use some fairly unusual apps like 
> EventBrite and still the Windows Store had them all. 
> 
> If you get a chance to try out a Windows Phone 8, one look at the People Hub 
> will convince you that Android and iOS have some catching up to do.


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RE: windows phone 8

[Heaton, Joseph@DFG]

How are you going to manage these devices corporately?  Most of the MDM apps 
out there that I've looked at have almost nothing for managing Windows phones.

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 11:18 AM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck 
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> 
> 
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
> because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
> purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
> 


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RE: windows phone 8

[Rod Trent]

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck 
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> 
> 
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
> because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
> purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
> 


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RE: windows phone 8

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I have got the new HTC 8X for personal use that I use side by side with an EVO 
4G LTE and the 8X has got easily twice the battery life that the EVO does.
I will second what Stephen said regarding apps also as that seems to be what 
people jump to first when knocking Windows Phone. I have found an equivalent 
app on my Windows Phone for every Android app I used (and I used lots as I used 
it for business and personal and have been using Android for over 2 years) with 
the exception of SongPop and Dice with Buddies (not earth shattering losses in 
the grand scheme of life, plus they are both available on Facebook if they are 
really needed). I use some fairly unusual apps like EventBrite and still the 
Windows Store had them all. 
If you get a chance to try out a Windows Phone 8, one look at the People Hub 
will convince you that Android and iOS have some catching up to do.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck 
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> 
> 
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
> because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
> purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
> 


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RE: windows phone 8

[joeuser]

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message ----
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: Steven Peck 
> Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> 
> 
> It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC because
> well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just purchased.
> My wife's been lasting as well.
> 


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Re: windows phone 8

[Steven Peck]

It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC because
well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just purchased.
My wife's been lasting as well.

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 7:42 AM,  wrote:

> The 920 has an exclusive on battery life issues.
>
>
>  Original Message ----
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
> From: Webster 
> Date: Sat, November 17, 2012 9:27 am
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>
> AT&T has an exclusive on the 920.
>
>
> Carl Webster
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
> http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>
> From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com]
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> Thanks
>
> Jon
>
> 
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:39:19 -0800
> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>
> Nokia 920, ATT.
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Jon Harris  jk.har...@live.com>> wrote:
> Steven which phone did you get and are you on AT&T or Verizon.  It appears
> you are on AT&T from what you said.
>
>
>
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RE: windows phone 8

[joeuser]

The 920 has an exclusive on battery life issues.


 Original Message 
Subject: RE: windows phone 8
From: Webster 
Date: Sat, November 17, 2012 9:27 am
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 

AT&T has an exclusive on the 920.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
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From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com]
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Thanks

Jon


Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:39:19 -0800
To: 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>

Nokia 920, ATT.
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Jon Harris 
<mailto:jk.har...@live.com>> wrote:
Steven which phone did you get and are you on AT&T or Verizon.  It appears you 
are on AT&T from what you said.



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RE: windows phone 8

[Jon Harris]

Thanks Jon
 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:39:19 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8
From: sep...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Nokia 920, ATT.  

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:





Steven which phone did you get and are you on AT&T or Verizon.  It appears you 
are on AT&T from what you said.
 
Jon 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:16:46 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

From: sep...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


Let's see... I have had a Windows Phone for a while now.  For what I do I like 
it. I have had a semi-crappy week so haven't had as much time playing with my 
new toy (got my 920 on Monday night) as I would like but while fresh...

 I signed in and Linkedin/ Twitter integration was done.  Added a Facebook 
account and a Gmail account and pretty much done.  All my contacts populated, I 
have IM or SMS as I choose, normal stuff but the accounts wok more smoothly.  
Took off all the ATT apps.

 Tile sizes, like it, spending way to much time figuring out which tiles are 
needing to go where.  When their commericals 'reinvented around you' showed up 
I thought meh, but what you pick does really show how you use your phone.  My 
wife jokes that she is horrified to be the 'social butterfly' but my tile set 
choices and various friends tile sets are very different.

 I like the Family Room feature.  The Rooms feature is kind of like an expanded 
Groups feature but with an automatically generate 'shared OneNote' prep'd for 
you as wel as a Calender and IM in a spot.


I set mine to backup configuration and pictures to the cloud so it all shows on 
my SkyDrive. I keep hearing about this 'lack of apps' but it hasn't affected my 
use.  I have some games, Amazon kindle and mobile, DeekFit Gym Pro and 
Crunchyroll.  The Weather Channel app came on it but I am debating about 
switching to what I used on my old phone.  Since I have a Xbox music 
subscription none of the other services matter to me.  If you have a long term 
relationship with a specific app with data in it, I could see your concern but 
otherwise there isn't anything I am doing that I couldn't do natively or found 
an app for.

 While I haven't changed the defaults on the lock screen of what notifications 
show up because they work for me, my wife immediatly did on hers. I am still 
finding my way around the Windows 8 / wp8 desktop sync tools.  It did pick up 
my music from my XBox Music selections without a sync but I like local music.  
Just haven't had time to explore the differences.  I suspect it has more to do 
with some fundamental differences and that I haven't sat down and looked at 
them much yet.

 My dad likes his (7.5) becuase his Black Berry was having frequent issues with 
mail account authentication and no matter what it would just lose it's mind so 
I took a chance and talked him into it.  He loves it.  The email and contacts 
just plain work so that and the ability to make text bigger with pinch to zoom 
is his 'killer feature' but I know he's got like 10 games on it which he always 
_ahems_ about.  I suspect he will go for the Nokia 820 which is a little 
smaller when it's renewal for him.

 So... I like my phone becuase it just works.  My old one did as well, but this 
one seems smoother. Steven Peckhttp://www.blkmtn.org


 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Ben M. Schorr  wrote:


We use OneNote with shared notebooks hosted on our SharePoint server. Syncs 
beautifully to Windows Phone.



Ben M. Schorr

Chief Executive Officer

Roland Schorr & Tower – Flagstaff Office

928-526-3970

www.rolandschorr.com * www.twitter.com/bschorr * www.facebook.com/RolandSchorr





-Original Message-

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:54 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: windows phone 8



>>> What's the big killer features of Exchange Notes?



Wait for it

Notetaking!



(Sorry :)



On a serious note, the lack of this has drove our company mad.  We used to get 
Notes sync via Good Messaging, but then they dropped it.  ActiveSync STILL 
doesn't do it. At this day in age, I find that insane.  Not even Windows Phone 
8 fully implemented their own AES protocol?!?  Color me baffled.





For now, until Good brings Notes back to the clients, I've told my user to 
stick with Springpad or Evernote for personal notes.



Sam








-Original Message-----

From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]

Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:26 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: windows phone 8



As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer 
features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your phone?





--Matt Ross

Ephrata School District





- Original Message -

From: Stefan Jafs

Re: windows phone 8

[Steven Peck]

Nokia 920, ATT.

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:

>  Steven which phone did you get and are you on AT&T or Verizon.  It
> appears you are on AT&T from what you said.
>
> Jon
> --
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:16:46 -0800
>
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> From: sep...@gmail.com
> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
>
>
> Let's see... I have had a Windows Phone for a while now.  For what I do I
> like it.
>
> I have had a semi-crappy week so haven't had as much time playing with my
> new toy (got my 920 on Monday night) as I would like but while fresh...
>
> I signed in and Linkedin/ Twitter integration was done. Added a Facebook
> account and a Gmail account and pretty much done.  All my contacts
> populated, I have IM or SMS as I choose, normal stuff but the accounts wok
> more smoothly.  Took off all the ATT apps.
>
> Tile sizes, like it, spending way to much time figuring out which tiles
> are needing to go where.  When their commericals 'reinvented around you'
> showed up I thought meh, but what you pick does really show how you use
> your phone.  My wife jokes that she is horrified to be the 'social
> butterfly' but my tile set choices and various friends tile sets are very
> different.
>
> I like the Family Room feature.  The Rooms feature is kind of like an
> expanded Groups feature but with an automatically generate 'shared OneNote'
> prep'd for you as wel as a Calender and IM in a spot.
> I set mine to backup configuration and pictures to the cloud so it all
> shows on my SkyDrive.
>
> I keep hearing about this 'lack of apps' but it hasn't affected my use.  I
> have some games, Amazon kindle and mobile, DeekFit Gym Pro and
> Crunchyroll.  The Weather Channel app came on it but I am debating about
> switching to what I used on my old phone.  Since I have a Xbox music
> subscription none of the other services matter to me.  If you have a long
> term relationship with a specific app with data in it, I could see your
> concern but otherwise there isn't anything I am doing that I couldn't do
> natively or found an app for.
>
> While I haven't changed the defaults on the lock screen of what
> notifications show up because they work for me, my wife immediatly did on
> hers.
>
> I am still finding my way around the Windows 8 / wp8 desktop sync tools.
> It did pick up my music from my XBox Music selections without a sync but I
> like local music.  Just haven't had time to explore the differences.  I
> suspect it has more to do with some fundamental differences and that I
> haven't sat down and looked at them much yet.
>
> My dad likes his (7.5) becuase his Black Berry was having frequent issues
> with mail account authentication and no matter what it would just lose it's
> mind so I took a chance and talked him into it.  He loves it.  The email
> and contacts just plain work so that and the ability to make text bigger
> with pinch to zoom is his 'killer feature' but I know he's got like 10
> games on it which he always _ahems_ about.  I suspect he will go for the
> Nokia 820 which is a little smaller when it's renewal for him.
>
> So... I like my phone becuase it just works.  My old one did as well, but
> this one seems smoother.
>
> Steven Peck
> http://www.blkmtn.org
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Ben M. Schorr wrote:
>
> We use OneNote with shared notebooks hosted on our SharePoint server.
> Syncs beautifully to Windows Phone.
>
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
> Roland Schorr & Tower – Flagstaff Office
> 928-526-3970
> www.rolandschorr.com * www.twitter.com/bschorr *
> www.facebook.com/RolandSchorr
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:54 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> >>> What's the big killer features of Exchange Notes?
>
> Wait for it
> Notetaking!
>
> (Sorry :)
>
> On a serious note, the lack of this has drove our company mad.  We used to
> get Notes sync via Good Messaging, but then they dropped it.  ActiveSync
> STILL doesn't do it. At this day in age, I find that insane.  Not even
> Windows Phone 8 fully implemented their own AES protocol?!?  Color me
> baffled.
>
> For now, until Good brings Notes back to the clients, I've told my user to
> stick with Springpad or Evernote for personal notes.
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:26 PM
> 

RE: windows phone 8

[Jon Harris]

Steven which phone did you get and are you on AT&T or Verizon.  It appears you 
are on AT&T from what you said. Jon Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:16:46 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8
From: sep...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Let's see... I have had a Windows Phone for a while now.  For what I do I like 
it. I have had a semi-crappy week so haven't had as much time playing with my 
new toy (got my 920 on Monday night) as I would like but while fresh...
 I signed in and Linkedin/ Twitter integration was done.  Added a Facebook 
account and a Gmail account and pretty much done.  All my contacts populated, I 
have IM or SMS as I choose, normal stuff but the accounts wok more smoothly.  
Took off all the ATT apps.
 Tile sizes, like it, spending way to much time figuring out which tiles are 
needing to go where.  When their commericals 'reinvented around you' showed up 
I thought meh, but what you pick does really show how you use your phone.  My 
wife jokes that she is horrified to be the 'social butterfly' but my tile set 
choices and various friends tile sets are very different.
 I like the Family Room feature.  The Rooms feature is kind of like an expanded 
Groups feature but with an automatically generate 'shared OneNote' prep'd for 
you as wel as a Calender and IM in a spot.

I set mine to backup configuration and pictures to the cloud so it all shows on 
my SkyDrive. I keep hearing about this 'lack of apps' but it hasn't affected my 
use.  I have some games, Amazon kindle and mobile, DeekFit Gym Pro and 
Crunchyroll.  The Weather Channel app came on it but I am debating about 
switching to what I used on my old phone.  Since I have a Xbox music 
subscription none of the other services matter to me.  If you have a long term 
relationship with a specific app with data in it, I could see your concern but 
otherwise there isn't anything I am doing that I couldn't do natively or found 
an app for.
 While I haven't changed the defaults on the lock screen of what notifications 
show up because they work for me, my wife immediatly did on hers. I am still 
finding my way around the Windows 8 / wp8 desktop sync tools.  It did pick up 
my music from my XBox Music selections without a sync but I like local music.  
Just haven't had time to explore the differences.  I suspect it has more to do 
with some fundamental differences and that I haven't sat down and looked at 
them much yet.
 My dad likes his (7.5) becuase his Black Berry was having frequent issues with 
mail account authentication and no matter what it would just lose it's mind so 
I took a chance and talked him into it.  He loves it.  The email and contacts 
just plain work so that and the ability to make text bigger with pinch to zoom 
is his 'killer feature' but I know he's got like 10 games on it which he always 
_ahems_ about.  I suspect he will go for the Nokia 820 which is a little 
smaller when it's renewal for him.
 So... I like my phone becuase it just works.  My old one did as well, but this 
one seems smoother. Steven Peckhttp://www.blkmtn.org

 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Ben M. Schorr  wrote:

We use OneNote with shared notebooks hosted on our SharePoint server. Syncs 
beautifully to Windows Phone.



Ben M. Schorr

Chief Executive Officer

Roland Schorr & Tower – Flagstaff Office

928-526-3970

www.rolandschorr.com * www.twitter.com/bschorr * www.facebook.com/RolandSchorr




-Original Message-

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:54 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: windows phone 8



>>> What's the big killer features of Exchange Notes?



Wait for it

Notetaking!



(Sorry :)



On a serious note, the lack of this has drove our company mad.  We used to get 
Notes sync via Good Messaging, but then they dropped it.  ActiveSync STILL 
doesn't do it. At this day in age, I find that insane.  Not even Windows Phone 
8 fully implemented their own AES protocol?!?  Color me baffled.




For now, until Good brings Notes back to the clients, I've told my user to 
stick with Springpad or Evernote for personal notes.



Sam







-Original Message-----

From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]

Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:26 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: windows phone 8



As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer 
features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your phone?





--Matt Ross

Ephrata School District





- Original Message -

From: Stefan Jafs

[mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]

To: NT System Admin Issues

[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]

Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012

10:09:43 -0800

Subject: Re: windows phone 8





> I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here 

Re: windows phone 8

[Bill Humphries]

thanks for the minireview, steven.

From: Steven Peck 
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 1:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

Let's see... I have had a Windows Phone for a while now.  For what I do I like 
it.

I have had a semi-crappy week so haven't had as much time playing with my new 
toy (got my 920 on Monday night) as I would like but while fresh...

I signed in and Linkedin/ Twitter integration was done. Added a Facebook 
account and a Gmail account and pretty much done.  All my contacts populated, I 
have IM or SMS as I choose, normal stuff but the accounts wok more smoothly.  
Took off all the ATT apps.

Tile sizes, like it, spending way to much time figuring out which tiles are 
needing to go where.  When their commericals 'reinvented around you' showed up 
I thought meh, but what you pick does really show how you use your phone.  My 
wife jokes that she is horrified to be the 'social butterfly' but my tile set 
choices and various friends tile sets are very different.

I like the Family Room feature.  The Rooms feature is kind of like an expanded 
Groups feature but with an automatically generate 'shared OneNote' prep'd for 
you as wel as a Calender and IM in a spot.

I set mine to backup configuration and pictures to the cloud so it all shows on 
my SkyDrive.

I keep hearing about this 'lack of apps' but it hasn't affected my use.  I have 
some games, Amazon kindle and mobile, DeekFit Gym Pro and Crunchyroll.  The 
Weather Channel app came on it but I am debating about switching to what I used 
on my old phone.  Since I have a Xbox music subscription none of the other 
services matter to me.  If you have a long term relationship with a specific 
app with data in it, I could see your concern but otherwise there isn't 
anything I am doing that I couldn't do natively or found an app for.

While I haven't changed the defaults on the lock screen of what notifications 
show up because they work for me, my wife immediatly did on hers.

I am still finding my way around the Windows 8 / wp8 desktop sync tools.  It 
did pick up my music from my XBox Music selections without a sync but I like 
local music.  Just haven't had time to explore the differences.  I suspect it 
has more to do with some fundamental differences and that I haven't sat down 
and looked at them much yet.

My dad likes his (7.5) becuase his Black Berry was having frequent issues with 
mail account authentication and no matter what it would just lose it's mind so 
I took a chance and talked him into it.  He loves it.  The email and contacts 
just plain work so that and the ability to make text bigger with pinch to zoom 
is his 'killer feature' but I know he's got like 10 games on it which he always 
_ahems_ about.  I suspect he will go for the Nokia 820 which is a little 
smaller when it's renewal for him.

So... I like my phone becuase it just works.  My old one did as well, but this 
one seems smoother.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org

 
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Ben M. Schorr  wrote:

  We use OneNote with shared notebooks hosted on our SharePoint server. Syncs 
beautifully to Windows Phone.

  Ben M. Schorr
  Chief Executive Officer
  Roland Schorr & Tower – Flagstaff Office
  928-526-3970
  www.rolandschorr.com * www.twitter.com/bschorr * www.facebook.com/RolandSchorr


  -Original Message-
  From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]

  Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:54 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: windows phone 8


  >>> What's the big killer features of Exchange Notes?


  Wait for it
  Notetaking!

  (Sorry :)

  On a serious note, the lack of this has drove our company mad.  We used to 
get Notes sync via Good Messaging, but then they dropped it.  ActiveSync STILL 
doesn't do it. At this day in age, I find that insane.  Not even Windows Phone 
8 fully implemented their own AES protocol?!?  Color me baffled.

  For now, until Good brings Notes back to the clients, I've told my user to 
stick with Springpad or Evernote for personal notes.

  Sam




  -Original Message-
  From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
  Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:26 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: windows phone 8

  As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer 
features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your phone?


  --Matt Ross
  Ephrata School District


  - Original Message -
  From: Stefan Jafs
  [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
  Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012
  10:09:43 -0800
  Subject: Re: windows phone 8


  > I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the
  > reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other

Re: windows phone 8

[Steven Peck]

Let's see... I have had a Windows Phone for a while now.  For what I do I
like it.

I have had a semi-crappy week so haven't had as much time playing with my
new toy (got my 920 on Monday night) as I would like but while fresh...

I signed in and Linkedin/ Twitter integration was done. Added a Facebook
account and a Gmail account and pretty much done.  All my contacts
populated, I have IM or SMS as I choose, normal stuff but the accounts wok
more smoothly.  Took off all the ATT apps.

Tile sizes, like it, spending way to much time figuring out which tiles are
needing to go where.  When their commericals 'reinvented around you' showed
up I thought meh, but what you pick does really show how you use your
phone.  My wife jokes that she is horrified to be the 'social butterfly'
but my tile set choices and various friends tile sets are very different.

I like the Family Room feature.  The Rooms feature is kind of like an
expanded Groups feature but with an automatically generate 'shared OneNote'
prep'd for you as wel as a Calender and IM in a spot.
I set mine to backup configuration and pictures to the cloud so it all
shows on my SkyDrive.

I keep hearing about this 'lack of apps' but it hasn't affected my use.  I
have some games, Amazon kindle and mobile, DeekFit Gym Pro and
Crunchyroll.  The Weather Channel app came on it but I am debating about
switching to what I used on my old phone.  Since I have a Xbox music
subscription none of the other services matter to me.  If you have a long
term relationship with a specific app with data in it, I could see your
concern but otherwise there isn't anything I am doing that I couldn't do
natively or found an app for.

While I haven't changed the defaults on the lock screen of what
notifications show up because they work for me, my wife immediatly did on
hers.

I am still finding my way around the Windows 8 / wp8 desktop sync tools.
It did pick up my music from my XBox Music selections without a sync but I
like local music.  Just haven't had time to explore the differences.  I
suspect it has more to do with some fundamental differences and that I
haven't sat down and looked at them much yet.

My dad likes his (7.5) becuase his Black Berry was having frequent issues
with mail account authentication and no matter what it would just lose it's
mind so I took a chance and talked him into it.  He loves it.  The email
and contacts just plain work so that and the ability to make text bigger
with pinch to zoom is his 'killer feature' but I know he's got like 10
games on it which he always _ahems_ about.  I suspect he will go for the
Nokia 820 which is a little smaller when it's renewal for him.

So... I like my phone becuase it just works.  My old one did as well, but
this one seems smoother.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Ben M. Schorr wrote:

> We use OneNote with shared notebooks hosted on our SharePoint server.
> Syncs beautifully to Windows Phone.
>
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
> Roland Schorr & Tower – Flagstaff Office
> 928-526-3970
> www.rolandschorr.com * www.twitter.com/bschorr *
> www.facebook.com/RolandSchorr
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:54 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: windows phone 8
>
> >>> What's the big killer features of Exchange Notes?
>
> Wait for it
> Notetaking!
>
> (Sorry :)
>
> On a serious note, the lack of this has drove our company mad.  We used to
> get Notes sync via Good Messaging, but then they dropped it.  ActiveSync
> STILL doesn't do it. At this day in age, I find that insane.  Not even
> Windows Phone 8 fully implemented their own AES protocol?!?  Color me
> baffled.
>
> For now, until Good brings Notes back to the clients, I've told my user to
> stick with Springpad or Evernote for personal notes.
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:26 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
>
> As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer
> features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your
> phone?
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Stefan Jafs
> [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012
> 10:09:43 -0800
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
>
>
> > I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the
> > reviews I have read is that it’s b

RE: windows phone 8

[James Hill]

When I first saw that list I was amazed by the features and then equally amazed 
by how few are actually implemented, particularly on Windows Phone.

James.

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, 16 November 2012 6:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

For anyone interested: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Exchange_ActiveSync_Clients
Quite a good list.  Not updated for Windows Phone 8 yet though :(

-Original Message-
From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

You beat me too it. It does and works very well. Touchdown is the app we tell 
our Android users to buy when they have issues connecting to Exchange as it 
seems every version of phones from venders can have a completely different 
implementation of ActiveSync. 

-Greg


-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Touchdown/Android purports to sync Notes in with Exchange 2010.

http://www.nitrodesk.com/features.aspx

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:06 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> the only "killer" feature is that notes sync to outlook in an exchange 
> environment.  The notes themselves are just text.
> At some point, MS stopped included notes as something that syncs using 
> activesync.  This very frustarting for people who had blackberries or ancient 
> windows mobile phones that synced the notes.
> 
> 
> Bill
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:25 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big 
> killer features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your 
> phone?
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Stefan Jafs
> [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012
> 10:09:43 -0800
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> 
> > I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the 
> > reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a 
> > great phone, I also use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad 
> > I use iMExchange2, for the free version I just have to manually updated it.
> > For my current phone the Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered 
> > with Notes yet and now I’m waiting for the Nokia so well see . .
> >
> > Stefan
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> >
> > > I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and 
> > > even NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new 
> > > device but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you 
> > > like Windows
> > Phones.**
> > > **
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > * *
> > >
> > > *Don Guyer**
> > > **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
> > >
> > > Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> > > 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
> > >
> > > email: *dgu...@che.org*
> > >
> > > Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440****
> > >
> > > *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or 
> > > call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
> > >
> > > [image: Description: Description: Description:
> > > InfoService-Logo240]
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > > *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons 
> > > they’d
> > like
> > > to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real 
> > > world how is the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything you 
> > > really miss from the ios
> > or
> > > android world of apps and features?
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > All of the official reviews always seem t

RE: windows phone 8

[Ben M. Schorr]

We use OneNote with shared notebooks hosted on our SharePoint server. Syncs 
beautifully to Windows Phone.

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
Roland Schorr & Tower – Flagstaff Office
928-526-3970
www.rolandschorr.com * www.twitter.com/bschorr * www.facebook.com/RolandSchorr 

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

>>> What's the big killer features of Exchange Notes?

Wait for it
Notetaking!

(Sorry :)

On a serious note, the lack of this has drove our company mad.  We used to get 
Notes sync via Good Messaging, but then they dropped it.  ActiveSync STILL 
doesn't do it. At this day in age, I find that insane.  Not even Windows Phone 
8 fully implemented their own AES protocol?!?  Color me baffled.

For now, until Good brings Notes back to the clients, I've told my user to 
stick with Springpad or Evernote for personal notes.

Sam



-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer 
features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your phone?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Stefan Jafs
[mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012
10:09:43 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8


> I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the 
> reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a great 
> phone, I also use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad I use 
> iMExchange2, for the free version I just have to manually updated it.
> For my current phone the Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered 
> with Notes yet and now I’m waiting for the Nokia so well see . .
> 
> Stefan
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> 
> > I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even 
> > NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device 
> > but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like 
> > Windows
> Phones.**
> > **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *Don Guyer**
> > **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
> >
> > Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> > 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
> >
> > email: *dgu...@che.org*
> >
> > Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
> >
> > *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call 
> > the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
> >
> > [image: Description: Description: Description: 
> > InfoService-Logo240]
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons 
> > they’d
> like
> > to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world 
> > how is the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss 
> > from the ios
> or
> > android world of apps and features?
> >
> >  
> >
> > All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details 
> > that make or break a phone for me.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
> > ---
> > To manage subscriptions click here:
> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice:
> > This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic 
> > Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended 
> > recipient(s).
> > It may contain information that is privileged and confidential.  Any 
> > unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> > If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, 
> > and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email.
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint se

RE: windows phone 8

[Guyer, Don]

Thx for that!

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology
Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.org
Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the 
helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.


-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

For anyone interested: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Exchange_ActiveSync_Clients
Quite a good list.  Not updated for Windows Phone 8 yet though :(

-Original Message-
From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

You beat me too it. It does and works very well. Touchdown is the app we tell 
our Android users to buy when they have issues connecting to Exchange as it 
seems every version of phones from venders can have a completely different 
implementation of ActiveSync. 

-Greg


-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Touchdown/Android purports to sync Notes in with Exchange 2010.

http://www.nitrodesk.com/features.aspx

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:06 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> the only "killer" feature is that notes sync to outlook in an exchange 
> environment.  The notes themselves are just text.
> At some point, MS stopped included notes as something that syncs using 
> activesync.  This very frustarting for people who had blackberries or ancient 
> windows mobile phones that synced the notes.
> 
> 
> Bill
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:25 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big 
> killer features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your 
> phone?
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Stefan Jafs
> [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012
> 10:09:43 -0800
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> 
> > I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the 
> > reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a 
> > great phone, I also use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad 
> > I use iMExchange2, for the free version I just have to manually updated it.
> > For my current phone the Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered 
> > with Notes yet and now I’m waiting for the Nokia so well see . .
> >
> > Stefan
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> >
> > > I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and 
> > > even NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new 
> > > device but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you 
> > > like Windows
> > Phones.**
> > > **
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > * *
> > >
> > > *Don Guyer**
> > > **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
> > >
> > > Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> > > 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
> > >
> > > email: *dgu...@che.org*
> > >
> > > Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
> > >
> > > *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or 
> > > call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
> > >
> > > [image: Description: Description: Description:
> > > InfoService-Logo240]
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > > *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons 
> > > they’d
> > like
> > > to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real 
> > > world how is the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything y

RE: windows phone 8

[Sam Cayze]

For anyone interested: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Exchange_ActiveSync_Clients
Quite a good list.  Not updated for Windows Phone 8 yet though :(

-Original Message-
From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

You beat me too it. It does and works very well. Touchdown is the app we tell 
our Android users to buy when they have issues connecting to Exchange as it 
seems every version of phones from venders can have a completely different 
implementation of ActiveSync. 

-Greg


-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Touchdown/Android purports to sync Notes in with Exchange 2010.

http://www.nitrodesk.com/features.aspx

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:06 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> the only "killer" feature is that notes sync to outlook in an exchange 
> environment.  The notes themselves are just text.
> At some point, MS stopped included notes as something that syncs using 
> activesync.  This very frustarting for people who had blackberries or ancient 
> windows mobile phones that synced the notes.
> 
> 
> Bill
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:25 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big 
> killer features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your 
> phone?
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Stefan Jafs
> [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012
> 10:09:43 -0800
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> 
> > I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the 
> > reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a 
> > great phone, I also use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad 
> > I use iMExchange2, for the free version I just have to manually updated it.
> > For my current phone the Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered 
> > with Notes yet and now I’m waiting for the Nokia so well see . .
> >
> > Stefan
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> >
> > > I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and 
> > > even NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new 
> > > device but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you 
> > > like Windows
> > Phones.**
> > > **
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > * *
> > >
> > > *Don Guyer**
> > > **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
> > >
> > > Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> > > 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
> > >
> > > email: *dgu...@che.org*
> > >
> > > Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440****
> > >
> > > *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or 
> > > call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
> > >
> > > [image: Description: Description: Description:
> > > InfoService-Logo240]
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > > *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons 
> > > they’d
> > like
> > > to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real 
> > > world how is the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything you 
> > > really miss from the ios
> > or
> > > android world of apps and features?
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details 
> > > that make or break a phone for me.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a res

RE: windows phone 8

[Greg Olson]

You beat me too it. It does and works very well. Touchdown is the app we tell 
our Android users to buy when they have issues connecting to Exchange as it 
seems every version of phones from venders can have a completely different 
implementation of ActiveSync. 

-Greg


-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Touchdown/Android purports to sync Notes in with Exchange 2010.

http://www.nitrodesk.com/features.aspx

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:06 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> the only "killer" feature is that notes sync to outlook in an exchange 
> environment.  The notes themselves are just text.
> At some point, MS stopped included notes as something that syncs using 
> activesync.  This very frustarting for people who had blackberries or ancient 
> windows mobile phones that synced the notes.
> 
> 
> Bill
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:25 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big 
> killer features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your 
> phone?
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Stefan Jafs
> [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012
> 10:09:43 -0800
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> 
> > I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the 
> > reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a 
> > great phone, I also use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad 
> > I use iMExchange2, for the free version I just have to manually updated it.
> > For my current phone the Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered 
> > with Notes yet and now I’m waiting for the Nokia so well see . .
> >
> > Stefan
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> >
> > > I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and 
> > > even NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new 
> > > device but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you 
> > > like Windows
> > Phones.**
> > > **
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > * *
> > >
> > > *Don Guyer**
> > > **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
> > >
> > > Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> > > 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
> > >
> > > email: *dgu...@che.org*
> > >
> > > Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440****
> > >
> > > *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or 
> > > call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
> > >
> > > [image: Description: Description: Description:
> > > InfoService-Logo240]
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > > *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons 
> > > they’d
> > like
> > > to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real 
> > > world how is the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything you 
> > > really miss from the ios
> > or
> > > android world of apps and features?
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details 
> > > that make or break a phone for me.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ 
> > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> > >
> > > ---
> > > To manage subscriptions click here:
> > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > > wit

RE: windows phone 8

[Sam Cayze]

>>> What's the big killer features of Exchange Notes?

Wait for it
Notetaking!

(Sorry :)

On a serious note, the lack of this has drove our company mad.  We used to get 
Notes sync via Good Messaging, but then they dropped it.  ActiveSync STILL 
doesn't do it. At this day in age, I find that insane.  Not even Windows Phone 
8 fully implemented their own AES protocol?!?  Color me baffled.

For now, until Good brings Notes back to the clients, I've told my user to 
stick with Springpad or Evernote for personal notes.

Sam



-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer 
features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your phone?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Stefan Jafs
[mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012
10:09:43 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8


> I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the 
> reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a great 
> phone, I also use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad I use 
> iMExchange2, for the free version I just have to manually updated it. 
> For my current phone the Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered 
> with Notes yet and now I’m waiting for the Nokia so well see . .
> 
> Stefan
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> 
> > I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even 
> > NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device 
> > but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like 
> > Windows
> Phones.**
> > **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *Don Guyer**
> > **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
> >
> > Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> > 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
> >
> > email: *dgu...@che.org*
> >
> > Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
> >
> > *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call 
> > the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
> >
> > [image: Description: Description: Description: 
> > InfoService-Logo240]
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons 
> > they’d
> like
> > to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world 
> > how is the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss 
> > from the ios
> or
> > android world of apps and features?
> >
> >  
> >
> > All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details 
> > that make or break a phone for me.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
> > ---
> > To manage subscriptions click here:
> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice:
> > This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic 
> > Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended 
> > recipient(s).
> > It may contain information that is privileged and confidential.  Any 
> > unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. 
> > If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, 
> > and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email.
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
> > ---
> > To manage subscriptions click here:
> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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> 
> 
> 
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> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoin

RE: windows phone 8

[Steven M. Caesare]

Touchdown/Android purports to sync Notes in with Exchange 2010.

http://www.nitrodesk.com/features.aspx

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:06 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> the only "killer" feature is that notes sync to outlook in an exchange 
> environment.  The notes themselves are just text.
> At some point, MS stopped included notes as something that syncs using 
> activesync.  This very frustarting for people
> who had blackberries or ancient windows mobile phones that synced the notes.
> 
> 
> Bill
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:25 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer 
> features of Exchange Notes? What makes it
> so important to have on your phone?
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Stefan Jafs
> [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012
> 10:09:43 -0800
> Subject: Re: windows phone 8
> 
> 
> > I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the
> > reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a great
> > phone, I also use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad I use
> > iMExchange2, for the free version I just have to manually updated it.
> > For my current phone the Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered
> > with Notes yet and now I’m waiting for the Nokia so well see . .
> >
> > Stefan
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> >
> > > I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even
> > > NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device
> > > but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like
> > > Windows
> > Phones.**
> > > **
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > * *
> > >
> > > *Don Guyer**
> > > **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
> > >
> > > Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> > > 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
> > >
> > > email: *dgu...@che.org*
> > >
> > > Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440****
> > >
> > > *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call
> > > the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
> > >
> > > [image: Description: Description: Description:
> > > InfoService-Logo240]
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > > *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons
> > > they’d
> > like
> > > to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world
> > > how is the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss
> > > from the ios
> > or
> > > android world of apps and features?
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details
> > > that make or break a phone for me.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> > >
> > > ---
> > > To manage subscriptions click here:
> > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice:
> > > This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic
> > > Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended
> > > recipient(s).
> > > It may contain information that is privileged and confidential.  Any
> > > unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> > > If you are not the intended re

RE: windows phone 8

[Senter, John]

Hard to sync to SykDrive when sites like that are blocked by the company 
proxies.

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

:)  Passwords.

And, really, Exchange notes were replaced by OneNote long ago.  Now, with WP8 
and Win8/RT it makes more sense to use OneNote with SkyDrive.


-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer 
features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your phone?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Stefan Jafs
[mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012
10:09:43 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8


> I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the 
> reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a great 
> phone, I also use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad I use 
> iMExchange2, for the free version I just have to manually updated it.
> For my current phone the Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered 
> with Notes yet and now I’m waiting for the Nokia so well see . .
> 
> Stefan
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> 
> > I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even 
> > NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device 
> > but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like 
> > Windows
> Phones.**
> > **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *Don Guyer**
> > **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
> >
> > Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> > 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
> >
> > email: *dgu...@che.org*
> >
> > Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
> >
> > *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call 
> > the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
> >
> > [image: Description: Description: Description: 
> > InfoService-Logo240]
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons 
> > they’d
> like
> > to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world 
> > how is the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss 
> > from the ios
> or
> > android world of apps and features?
> >
> >  
> >
> > All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details 
> > that make or break a phone for me.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
> > ---
> > To manage subscriptions click here:
> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice:
> > This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic 
> > Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended 
> > recipient(s).
> > It may contain information that is privileged and confidential.  Any 
> > unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> > If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, 
> > and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email.
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
> > ---
> > To manage subscriptions click here:
> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Stefan Jafs
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> 
> ---
> 

RE: windows phone 8

[Rod Trent]

:)  Passwords.

And, really, Exchange notes were replaced by OneNote long ago.  Now, with WP8 
and Win8/RT it makes more sense to use OneNote with SkyDrive.


-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer 
features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your phone?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Stefan Jafs
[mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012
10:09:43 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8


> I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the 
> reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a great 
> phone, I also use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad I use 
> iMExchange2, for the free version I just have to manually updated it. 
> For my current phone the Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered 
> with Notes yet and now I’m waiting for the Nokia so well see . .
> 
> Stefan
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> 
> > I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even 
> > NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device 
> > but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like 
> > Windows
> Phones.**
> > **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *Don Guyer**
> > **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
> >
> > Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> > 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
> >
> > email: *dgu...@che.org*
> >
> > Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
> >
> > *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call 
> > the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
> >
> > [image: Description: Description: Description: 
> > InfoService-Logo240]
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons 
> > they’d
> like
> > to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world 
> > how is the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss 
> > from the ios
> or
> > android world of apps and features?
> >
> >  
> >
> > All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details 
> > that make or break a phone for me.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
> > ---
> > To manage subscriptions click here:
> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice:
> > This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic 
> > Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended 
> > recipient(s).
> > It may contain information that is privileged and confidential.  Any 
> > unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. 
> > If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, 
> > and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email.
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
> > ---
> > To manage subscriptions click here:
> > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Stefan Jafs
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> 
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin

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Re: windows phone 8

[Bill Humphries]

the only "killer" feature is that notes sync to outlook in an exchange 
environment.  The notes themselves are just text.  At some point, MS stopped 
included notes as something that syncs using activesync.  This very 
frustarting for people who had blackberries or ancient windows mobile phones 
that synced the notes.



Bill
-Original Message- 
From: Matthew W. Ross

Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer 
features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your 
phone?



--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Stefan Jafs
[mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012
10:09:43 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8



I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the reviews
I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a great phone, I
also
use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad I use iMExchange2, for 
the

free version I just have to manually updated it. For my current phone the
Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered with Notes yet and now I’m
waiting for the Nokia so well see . .

Stefan
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:

> I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even
> NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device but,
> what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like Windows
Phones.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> * *
>
> *Don Guyer**
> **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
>
> Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
>
> email: *dgu...@che.org*
>
> Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
>
> *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the
> helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
>
> [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240]
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
>
> ** **
>
> Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons they’d
like
> to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world how 
> is

> the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss from the ios
or
> android world of apps and features?
>
>  
>
> All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details that 
> make

> or break a phone for me.
>
>  
>
> Thanks.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ---
> To manage subscriptions click here:
> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
> Confidentiality Notice:
> This e-mail, including any attachments is the
> property of Catholic Health East and is intended
> for the sole use of the intended recipient(s).
> It may contain information that is privileged and
> confidential.  Any unauthorized review, use,
> disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are
> not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and
> reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email.
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
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> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
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--
Stefan Jafs

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: windows phone 8

[Mike Hoffman]

I've got an HTC x8 - upgraded from an HD7 and love it. Email is as you would 
expect, and having lots of live tiles for different mailboxes on the main 
screen is really useful. I tend to use tasks rather than notes and that works 
for me - or else I use OneNote synced up with an O365 account / or box. You can 
always use OneNote with a Hotmail account for storage. I also have an 
outlook.com and about 5 other email accounts linked up :-)

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: 15 November 2012 18:26
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer 
features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your phone?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Stefan Jafs
[mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012
10:09:43 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8


> I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the 
> reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a great 
> phone, I also use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad I use 
> iMExchange2, for the free version I just have to manually updated it. 
> For my current phone the Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered 
> with Notes yet and now I’m waiting for the Nokia so well see . .
> 
> Stefan
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> 
> > I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even 
> > NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device 
> > but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like 
> > Windows
> Phones.**
> > **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *Don Guyer**
> > **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
> >
> > Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> > 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
> >
> > email: *dgu...@che.org*
> >
> > Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
> >
> > *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call 
> > the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
> >
> > [image: Description: Description: Description: 
> > InfoService-Logo240]
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons 
> > they’d
> like
> > to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world 
> > how is the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss 
> > from the ios
> or
> > android world of apps and features?
> >
> >  
> >
> > All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details 
> > that make or break a phone for me.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
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Re: windows phone 8

[Matthew W. Ross]

As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer 
features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your phone?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Stefan Jafs
[mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012
10:09:43 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8


> I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the reviews
> I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a great phone, I
> also
> use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad I use iMExchange2, for the
> free version I just have to manually updated it. For my current phone the
> Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered with Notes yet and now I’m
> waiting for the Nokia so well see . .
> 
> Stefan
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> 
> > I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even
> > NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device but,
> > what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like Windows
> Phones.**
> > **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *Don Guyer**
> > **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
> >
> > Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> > 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
> >
> > email: *dgu...@che.org*
> >
> > Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
> >
> > *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the
> > helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
> >
> > [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240]
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons they’d
> like
> > to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world how is
> > the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss from the ios
> or
> > android world of apps and features?
> >
> >  
> >
> > All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details that make
> > or break a phone for me.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
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> 
> 
> -- 
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Re: windows phone 8

[Stefan Jafs]

I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the reviews
I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a great phone, I also
use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad I use iMExchange2, for the
free version I just have to manually updated it. For my current phone the
Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered with Notes yet and now I’m
waiting for the Nokia so well see . .

Stefan
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:

> I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even
> NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device but,
> what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like Windows Phones.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> * *
>
> *Don Guyer**
> **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
>
> Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
>
> email: *dgu...@che.org*
>
> Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
>
> *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the
> helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
>
> [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240]
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
>
> ** **
>
> Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons they’d like
> to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world how is
> the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss from the ios or
> android world of apps and features?
>
>  
>
> All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details that make
> or break a phone for me.
>
>  
>
> Thanks.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
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> not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and
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RE: windows phone 8

[Rod Trent]

Uhhh…Blackberry has been beat on enterprise email for a few years.

 

 

From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

 

I am also thinking about the Nokia 920.  The reviews look good.  I am a 
Blackberry user and have been for years, you cannot beat them for enterprise 
mail.  So one thing that use a lot is Exchange Notes, and it turns out that 
Microsoft does not sync Notes.  This is also the case for iPhone and android, 
which is why I was looking at the Windows Phone.  I find it hard to believe 
that MS is not fully using ActiveSync on their device.  I am not alone, as this 
seems to be a be issue with Blackberry convertees. So far I have not been able 
to find a way to get Notes on the phone without having to move them to OneNote, 
which I do not want to separate that out.

 

And the consumer side of me is hesitant on a Windows Phone because of lack of 
apps.  I not one that wants much in the way of apps but the key areas I want 
are not there.  I use several banks and none of them have full apps like on 
iPhone and android; I have Comcast and they have nothing on Windows phone; and 
I have a young son that loves Disney and they only have apps on iPhone.  From 
the app side, iPhone has it all, but I am doing my best to resist drinking the 
Kool-Aid.

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

 

I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even NewEgg. 
Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device but, what I’ve 
heard has all been pretty positive if you like Windows Phones.

 

Regards,

 

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology

Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073

email: dgu...@che.org

Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440

For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the 
helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.

Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240

 

From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: windows phone 8

 

Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons they’d like to 
share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world how is the app 
situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss from the ios or android 
world of apps and features?

 

All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details that make or 
break a phone for me.

 

Thanks.

 

Bill

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Re: windows phone 8

[Steve Ens]

I thought the lack of apps was a killer too, but since the release of
Windows 8 (official), there have been many great apps released.  That
wouldn't be the issue for me.  I love my blackberry keyboard though and the
reduced activesync functionality on the Windows phone might be hurtful.


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Senter, John wrote:

>  I am also thinking about the Nokia 920.  The reviews look good.  I am a
> Blackberry user and have been for years, you cannot beat them for
> enterprise mail.  So one thing that use a lot is Exchange Notes, and it
> turns out that Microsoft does not sync Notes.  This is also the case for
> iPhone and android, which is why I was looking at the Windows Phone.  I
> find it hard to believe that MS is not fully using ActiveSync on their
> device.  I am not alone, as this seems to be a be issue with Blackberry
> convertees. So far I have not been able to find a way to get Notes on the
> phone without having to move them to OneNote, which I do not want to
> separate that out.
>
> ** **
>
> And the consumer side of me is hesitant on a Windows Phone because of lack
> of apps.  I not one that wants much in the way of apps but the key areas I
> want are not there.  I use several banks and none of them have full apps
> like on iPhone and android; I have Comcast and they have nothing on Windows
> phone; and I have a young son that loves Disney and they only have apps on
> iPhone.  From the app side, iPhone has it all, but I am doing my best to
> resist drinking the Kool-Aid.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:56 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: windows phone 8
>
>  ** **
>
> I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even
> NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device but,
> what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like Windows Phones.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,
>
> * *
>
> *Don Guyer**
> **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*
>
> Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
>
> email: *dgu...@che.org*
>
> Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
>
> *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the
> helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.*
>
> [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240]****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
>
> ** **
>
> Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons they’d like
> to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world how is
> the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss from the ios or
> android world of apps and features?
>
>  
>
> All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details that make
> or break a phone for me.
>
>  
>
> Thanks.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
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RE: windows phone 8

[Senter, John]

I am also thinking about the Nokia 920.  The reviews look good.  I am a 
Blackberry user and have been for years, you cannot beat them for enterprise 
mail.  So one thing that use a lot is Exchange Notes, and it turns out that 
Microsoft does not sync Notes.  This is also the case for iPhone and android, 
which is why I was looking at the Windows Phone.  I find it hard to believe 
that MS is not fully using ActiveSync on their device.  I am not alone, as this 
seems to be a be issue with Blackberry convertees. So far I have not been able 
to find a way to get Notes on the phone without having to move them to OneNote, 
which I do not want to separate that out.

And the consumer side of me is hesitant on a Windows Phone because of lack of 
apps.  I not one that wants much in the way of apps but the key areas I want 
are not there.  I use several banks and none of them have full apps like on 
iPhone and android; I have Comcast and they have nothing on Windows phone; and 
I have a young son that loves Disney and they only have apps on iPhone.  From 
the app side, iPhone has it all, but I am doing my best to resist drinking the 
Kool-Aid.

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even NewEgg. 
Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device but, what I’ve 
heard has all been pretty positive if you like Windows Phones.

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology
Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.org<mailto:dgu...@che.org>
Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the 
helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.
[Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240]

From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: windows phone 8

Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons they’d like to 
share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world how is the app 
situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss from the ios or android 
world of apps and features?

All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details that make or 
break a phone for me.

Thanks.

Bill

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RE: windows phone 8

[Guyer, Don]

I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even NewEgg. 
Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device but, what I’ve 
heard has all been pretty positive if you like Windows Phones.

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology
Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.org<mailto:dgu...@che.org>
Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the 
helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.
[cid:image001.jpg@01CDC328.360AAD70]

From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: windows phone 8

Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons they’d like to 
share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world how is the app 
situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss from the ios or android 
world of apps and features?

All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details that make or 
break a phone for me.

Thanks.

Bill

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