RE: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband
To Jim, Vic, Mike, et al; I love a good debate. While I don't think anyone's argument is going to change anyone's mind, I would like to present my thoughts on the extended thread and then might we return to the technical aspects to this list. I'll try to be as concise and to the point as possible. War in Iraq: Saddam Hussein is a bad guy and given the opportunity I would gladly put a bullet in his head. (would not be the first person I've killed, Ex-Marine Viet-Nam) Is removing him worth $300,000,000,000 (that's 300,000 million dollars!) and the lives of 3000 American fighting men and women and the lives of over 100,000 Iraqis? I think not. The reason for going to Iraq is oil. Strategically, US control over the second largest bubble of oil in the world is in the US best interest. Tactically, control over Iraqi oil is a windfall for American oil interests. WMD, Iraqi freedom, Mid East democracy are just selling points. By the way, were is the $8,800,000,000 (8,800 million dollars) lost by the CPA? Are we making more millionaires in Iraq than we are making in the US? Think War Profiteering. Fight there to keep "Us" safe here is a stretch. The fact is that Iraq has become a training ground for terrorist and terrorist tactics. Do we feel safer? I don't, especially when we keep having "Terror" waved in front of us every day. I just checked, US "terror level" is ELEVATED! Feel safer? Iraq is only "free" due to the presence of US troops. Once we leave, civil war will start and Iraq will have to sort out their own future. Leave now, or stay long term at the cost of $2,000,000,000 (2,000 million dollars) a month and more American and Iraqi lives. You choose. Either way Iraqis will have to sort it out themselves. The CNN article regarding the "Iraqis concealed plans to reconstitute their nuclear program" was debunked. US Economy: Unemployment rate is a gauge of the number of people losing jobs. After 6 months of unemployment that individual is dropped from the stats. The true unemployment rate is much higher. If you think it's easy to get a job, quit and try to get rehired. The US economy needs to grow 150,000 jobs a month to keep up with population growth. In the years 2000 through 2004, based on US Labor statistics, we are down more than 7,600,000 jobs in the US based on population growth. Jobs are moving to where the labor costs are the lowest ( China, East Asia, India, Eastern Europe). Home ownership growth is not an indicator of prosperity. Every year there are more homes built and the US population is ever growing. Therefore more home owners. I could go on, but I won't. Let's get back to talking about Wi-Fi, broadband and other "cool" stuff. Larry -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
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Hey I got hit with the "Reply-All" first and there was a bunch of crap on it. It was my duty to respond. I think you should go after this mike guy... If the stuff he sent me did not have your address on it then you never would have received my educational reply. Thanks but it is not necessary to send me an include or do not include e-mail. -=vic - Original Message - From: "Eric Glover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'Michael Stearne'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'vic'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Cienfuegos'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband This thread is getting silly, and is not relevant to the purposes of the group - if possible, could the thread be limited to the interested parties - if you want to be on this, please send an e-mail to Michael, Jim and Vic, and then they will involve only you - and not the whole group. Thanks, Eric Jim Henry wrote: Michael, If you honestly believe the war with Iraq was for the reason you list, then you need to diversify your news sources and get informed. Additionally, Vic and I have been civil and tried to discuss this intelligently. I see no reason to resort to name calling, as now both us us have been called "Kool-aid drinker". That's usually what happens when one side of an issue can no longer support its argument with facts. Respectfully, Jim -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 3:16 AM To: vic Cc: Cienfuegos; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net Subject: Re: This thread is getting silly, and is not relevant to the purposes of the group - if possible, could the thread be limited to the interested parties - if you want to be on this, please send an e-mail to Michael or Jim, and then they will involve only you - and not the whole group. Thanks, [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband On 1/8/06, vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They said they had "nuclear capabilities" not "nuke weapons". There is a What "nuclear" capabilities did they find? difference. Well lets say you go walking down the street and you see a gun... you pick it up you look in the chamber and it is empty. A gun with out bullets is still a weapon. All you have to do is put the bullets in. BTW No, let's say you invaded a country for an empty tractor trailer and 3,000 U.S. soldiers died because of it. An empty "laboratory" is a weapon? I don't think the people from Alabama appreciate your comment. "You" are safe because people have gone and died to keep "you" safe. Be a little more appreciative. I have a cousin permanently disabled from his service in Iraq and more than one friend currently in the desert. Don't question my patriotism. get with the program and stop trying to be cute. BTW it's "ciao" not "cio" Kool-Aid drinker. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband
This thread is getting silly, and is not relevant to the purposes of the group - if possible, could the thread be limited to the interested parties - if you want to be on this, please send an e-mail to Michael, Jim and Vic, and then they will involve only you - and not the whole group. Thanks, Eric Jim Henry wrote: Michael, If you honestly believe the war with Iraq was for the reason you list, then you need to diversify your news sources and get informed. Additionally, Vic and I have been civil and tried to discuss this intelligently. I see no reason to resort to name calling, as now both us us have been called "Kool-aid drinker". That's usually what happens when one side of an issue can no longer support its argument with facts. Respectfully, Jim -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 3:16 AM To: vic Cc: Cienfuegos; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net Subject: Re: This thread is getting silly, and is not relevant to the purposes of the group - if possible, could the thread be limited to the interested parties - if you want to be on this, please send an e-mail to Michael or Jim, and then they will involve only you - and not the whole group. Thanks, [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband On 1/8/06, vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They said they had "nuclear capabilities" not "nuke weapons". There is a What "nuclear" capabilities did they find? difference. Well lets say you go walking down the street and you see a gun... you pick it up you look in the chamber and it is empty. A gun with out bullets is still a weapon. All you have to do is put the bullets in. BTW No, let's say you invaded a country for an empty tractor trailer and 3,000 U.S. soldiers died because of it. An empty "laboratory" is a weapon? I don't think the people from Alabama appreciate your comment. "You" are safe because people have gone and died to keep "you" safe. Be a little more appreciative. I have a cousin permanently disabled from his service in Iraq and more than one friend currently in the desert. Don't question my patriotism. get with the program and stop trying to be cute. BTW it's "ciao" not "cio" Kool-Aid drinker. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
RE: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband
Michael, If you honestly believe the war with Iraq was for the reason you list, then you need to diversify your news sources and get informed. Additionally, Vic and I have been civil and tried to discuss this intelligently. I see no reason to resort to name calling, as now both us us have been called "Kool-aid drinker". That's usually what happens when one side of an issue can no longer support its argument with facts. Respectfully, Jim > -Original Message- > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 3:16 AM > To: vic > Cc: Cienfuegos; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net > Subject: Re: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband > > > On 1/8/06, vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They said they had "nuclear capabilities" not "nuke > weapons". There is > > a > > What "nuclear" capabilities did they find? > > > difference. Well lets say you go walking down the street > and you see a > > gun... you pick it up you look in the chamber and it is > empty. A gun > > with out bullets is still a weapon. All you have to do is put the > > bullets in. BTW > > No, let's say you invaded a country for an empty tractor > trailer and 3,000 U.S. soldiers died because of it. An > empty "laboratory" is a weapon? > > > I don't think the people from Alabama appreciate your > comment. "You" > > are safe because people have gone and died to keep "you" safe. Be a > > little more appreciative. > > I have a cousin permanently disabled from his service in Iraq > and more than one friend currently in the desert. Don't > question my patriotism. > > > get with the program and stop trying to be cute. > > BTW it's "ciao" not "cio" Kool-Aid drinker. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
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You overlooked Vic's and my statements about the multiple cease fire violations as Iraq continuously tried to shoot down our planes. Many folks try to say our actions were pre-emptive. They weren't. The war existed since Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1991. The world reversed those actions through military force and agreed to a cease fire and thus save Hussein's butt under certain conditions. Iraq repeatedly violated those cease fire terms. When the U.N. lacked the cajones to take action when its own terms were repeatedly violated, a coalition of the honest and non-emasculated did. Do we really need to argue these leftist points in a tech forum? Jim > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Michael Stearne > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:55 AM > To: vic > Cc: Cienfuegos; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net > Subject: Re: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband > > > On 1/7/06, vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We already found WMD. We found a mobile weapons laboratory almost > > right away. There were no chems in it but is was there. We > know he had > > WMD because > > So what you're saying is that we invaded Iraq for an empty > double-wide trailer? Are we invading Alabama next (no > offense - Roll Tide)? > > Where are the "mushroom cloud" weapons we were told they had? > > > WE the US GAVE WMD to Iraq to fight Iran. > > Please I thirst for intelligent convo.. > > > Prior to invasion Iraq's military FIRED on our US planes almost 50 > > TIMES. > > And exactly 0 U.S. soldiers died because of these shots. At > this point we could just send in UAVs to do the patrolling > over the then contained Iraq. Since the war 2193 U.S. > citizens have been killed and 16155 soldiers (including my > cousin) have been permantly wounded. > -- > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > Un/Subscribe: > http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.14.14/222 - Release > Date: 1/5/2006 > > -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
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Ya know I am getting real tired of playing teacher. Perhaps I should smoke pot and become a college professor. LOL! http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.centrifuge/ "U.S. officials emphasized this was not evidence Iraq had a nuclear weapon -- but it was evidence the Iraqis concealed plans to reconstitute their nuclear program as soon as the world was no longer looking. The parts and documents Obeidi gave the CIA were... " Just one of many examples. Mike your tuition is overdue and you will not receive your grade, albeit low, until you have paid your tuition. LOL! -=vic - Original Message - From: "Michael Stearne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Billy Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cienfuegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 3:15 AM Subject: Re: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband On 1/8/06, vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They said they had "nuclear capabilities" not "nuke weapons". There is a What "nuclear" capabilities did they find? difference. Well lets say you go walking down the street and you see a gun... you pick it up you look in the chamber and it is empty. A gun with out bullets is still a weapon. All you have to do is put the bullets in. BTW No, let's say you invaded a country for an empty tractor trailer and 3,000 U.S. soldiers died because of it. An empty "laboratory" is a weapon? I don't think the people from Alabama appreciate your comment. "You" are safe because people have gone and died to keep "you" safe. Be a little more appreciative. I have a cousin permanently disabled from his service in Iraq and more than one friend currently in the desert. Don't question my patriotism. get with the program and stop trying to be cute. BTW it's "ciao" not "cio" Kool-Aid drinker. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
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On 1/8/06, vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They said they had "nuclear capabilities" not "nuke weapons". There is a What "nuclear" capabilities did they find? > difference. Well lets say you go walking down the street and you see a > gun... you pick it up you look in the chamber and it is empty. A gun with > out bullets is still a weapon. All you have to do is put the bullets in. BTW No, let's say you invaded a country for an empty tractor trailer and 3,000 U.S. soldiers died because of it. An empty "laboratory" is a weapon? > I don't think the people from Alabama appreciate your comment. "You" are > safe because people have gone and died to keep "you" safe. Be a little more > appreciative. I have a cousin permanently disabled from his service in Iraq and more than one friend currently in the desert. Don't question my patriotism. > get with the program and stop trying to be cute. BTW it's "ciao" not "cio" Kool-Aid drinker. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband
They said they had "nuclear capabilities" not "nuke weapons". There is a difference. Well lets say you go walking down the street and you see a gun... you pick it up you look in the chamber and it is empty. A gun with out bullets is still a weapon. All you have to do is put the bullets in. BTW I don't think the people from Alabama appreciate your comment. "You" are safe because people have gone and died to keep "you" safe. Be a little more appreciative. get with the program and stop trying to be cute. -=vic - Original Message - From: "Michael Stearne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "vic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Billy Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cienfuegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:54 AM Subject: Re: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband On 1/7/06, vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We already found WMD. We found a mobile weapons laboratory almost right away. There were no chems in it but is was there. We know he had WMD because So what you're saying is that we invaded Iraq for an empty double-wide trailer? Are we invading Alabama next (no offense - Roll Tide)? Where are the "mushroom cloud" weapons we were told they had? WE the US GAVE WMD to Iraq to fight Iran. Please I thirst for intelligent convo.. Prior to invasion Iraq's military FIRED on our US planes almost 50 TIMES. And exactly 0 U.S. soldiers died because of these shots. At this point we could just send in UAVs to do the patrolling over the then contained Iraq. Since the war 2193 U.S. citizens have been killed and 16155 soldiers (including my cousin) have been permantly wounded. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
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On 1/7/06, vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We already found WMD. We found a mobile weapons laboratory almost right > away. There were no chems in it but is was there. We know he had WMD because So what you're saying is that we invaded Iraq for an empty double-wide trailer? Are we invading Alabama next (no offense - Roll Tide)? Where are the "mushroom cloud" weapons we were told they had? > WE the US GAVE WMD to Iraq to fight Iran. > Please I thirst for intelligent convo.. > Prior to invasion Iraq's military FIRED on our US planes almost 50 TIMES. And exactly 0 U.S. soldiers died because of these shots. At this point we could just send in UAVs to do the patrolling over the then contained Iraq. Since the war 2193 U.S. citizens have been killed and 16155 soldiers (including my cousin) have been permantly wounded. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
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No. I don't think it was neccesary and I don't see the connection to war depbts (whose?) Everyone knows Hussein had them but he obvously hid or got rid of most of them. The war occurred because he violated terms of the cease fire of 1991. Among the violations were daily firing on of U.S. and British planes patrolling the no fly zones over Iraq. Please email me directly if you'd like to discuss further. It's just not fair to the members of this list to keep arguing these leftist and socialist issues on a wireless list. Thanks. Jim > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Billy Bob > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:37 PM > To: 'vic'; 'Cienfuegos'; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net > Subject: RE: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband > > > I'll bet you're still looking for WMD's to justify "war debts" > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of vic > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:32 PM > To: Cienfuegos; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net > Subject: Re: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband > > Biggest debtor yes but not debt by proportion to GDP. Our > debt is small when compared to our GDP. War debts let us have > comparative safety on the streets to trade and partially keep > up the value of the USD. > > -=vic > --- > - Original Message - > From: "Cienfuegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:35 PM > Subject: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband > > > > Lets try to keep our conversations down to earth please. > > > > Those who are terrified about govt. subsidized broadband, > rather than > > repeating the erroneous and semi-religious mantra of the > wonders of a > > capitalist economy a little education on the subject would > go a long > > way. The biggest debtor nation in the world is the USA, > and where is > > the outcry for the 40% of the gnp that goes to fund the > pentagon and > > other war related depts? > > > > Lets keep it on the tech tip shall we, that is why signed > on for this > > mailing list. > > > > Aias > > > > > -- > -- > > > > > -- > > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > > Un/Subscribe: > > http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > > > > -- > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > Un/Subscribe: > http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > > -- > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > Un/Subscribe: > http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.14.14/222 - Release > Date: 1/5/2006 > > -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
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Yes, in absolute terms our debt is large because our economy is so large. That's a GOOD thing! > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of vic > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:32 PM > To: Cienfuegos; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net > Subject: Re: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband > > > Biggest debtor yes but not debt by proportion to GDP. Our > debt is small when > compared to our GDP. > War debts let us have comparative safety on the streets to trade and > partially keep up the value of the USD. > > -=vic > --- > - Original Message - > From: "Cienfuegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:35 PM > Subject: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband > > > > Lets try to keep our conversations down to earth please. > > > > Those who are terrified about govt. subsidized broadband, > rather than > > repeating the erroneous and semi-religious mantra of the > wonders of a > > capitalist economy a little education on the subject would > go a long > > way. The biggest debtor nation in the world is the USA, > and where is > > the outcry for the 40% of the gnp that goes to fund the > pentagon and > > other war related depts? > > > > Lets keep it on the tech tip shall we, that is why signed > on for this > > mailing list. > > > > Aias > > > > > -- > -- > > > > -- > > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > > Un/Subscribe: > > http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > > > > -- > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > Un/Subscribe: > http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.14.14/222 - Release > Date: 1/5/2006 > > -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
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We already found WMD. We found a mobile weapons laboratory almost right away. There were no chems in it but is was there. We know he had WMD because WE the US GAVE WMD to Iraq to fight Iran. Please I thirst for intelligent convo.. Prior to invasion Iraq's military FIRED on our US planes almost 50 TIMES. Last time I checked when one nation's army fires on another nation's Air Force that in itself is an act of war. Get the facts man Cio baby, -=vic --- VICTOR SCELBA - Original Message - From: "Billy Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'vic'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Cienfuegos'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:36 PM Subject: RE: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband I'll bet you're still looking for WMD's to justify "war debts" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of vic Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:32 PM To: Cienfuegos; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net Subject: Re: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband Biggest debtor yes but not debt by proportion to GDP. Our debt is small when compared to our GDP. War debts let us have comparative safety on the streets to trade and partially keep up the value of the USD. -=vic --- - Original Message - From: "Cienfuegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband Lets try to keep our conversations down to earth please. Those who are terrified about govt. subsidized broadband, rather than repeating the erroneous and semi-religious mantra of the wonders of a capitalist economy a little education on the subject would go a long way. The biggest debtor nation in the world is the USA, and where is the outcry for the 40% of the gnp that goes to fund the pentagon and other war related depts? Lets keep it on the tech tip shall we, that is why signed on for this mailing list. Aias -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
RE: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband
I'll bet you're still looking for WMD's to justify "war debts" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of vic Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:32 PM To: Cienfuegos; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net Subject: Re: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband Biggest debtor yes but not debt by proportion to GDP. Our debt is small when compared to our GDP. War debts let us have comparative safety on the streets to trade and partially keep up the value of the USD. -=vic --- - Original Message - From: "Cienfuegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband > Lets try to keep our conversations down to earth please. > > Those who are terrified about govt. subsidized broadband, rather than > repeating the erroneous and semi-religious mantra of the wonders of a > capitalist economy a little education on the subject would go a long > way. The biggest debtor nation in the world is the USA, and where is > the outcry for the 40% of the gnp that goes to fund the pentagon and > other war related depts? > > Lets keep it on the tech tip shall we, that is why signed on for this > mailing list. > > Aias > > -- > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband
Biggest debtor yes but not debt by proportion to GDP. Our debt is small when compared to our GDP. War debts let us have comparative safety on the streets to trade and partially keep up the value of the USD. -=vic --- - Original Message - From: "Cienfuegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband Lets try to keep our conversations down to earth please. Those who are terrified about govt. subsidized broadband, rather than repeating the erroneous and semi-religious mantra of the wonders of a capitalist economy a little education on the subject would go a long way. The biggest debtor nation in the world is the USA, and where is the outcry for the 40% of the gnp that goes to fund the pentagon and other war related depts? Lets keep it on the tech tip shall we, that is why signed on for this mailing list. Aias -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
RE: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband
Ah, if only I were as well informed as you! Thanks for the guidance. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Cienfuegos > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:35 PM > To: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net > Subject: [nycwireless] govt. subsidy and broadband > > > Lets try to keep our conversations down to earth please. > > Those who are terrified about govt. subsidized broadband, > rather than repeating the erroneous and semi-religious mantra > of the wonders of a capitalist economy a little education on > the subject would go a long way. The biggest debtor nation > in the world is the USA, and where is the outcry for the 40% > of the gnp that goes to fund the pentagon and other war related depts? > > Lets keep it on the tech tip shall we, that is why signed on > for this mailing list. > > Aias > -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
