[obrolan-bandar] Re: Seminar Exchange Traded Fund, serta kaitannya dgn saham, dan options di Sura
Dear All, Open Ended itu adalah kebalikan dari Close Ended. Nah supaya mudah, saya jelaskan demikian .. Close Ended itu persis seperti dengan IPO suatu perusahaan. Close Ended, sekali dia IPO sudah tidak bisa menambah jumlah saham. Kecuali Right Issue, atau Saham Bonus. Open Ended, R-45ETF ini adalah sebuah reksadana indeks. reksadana indeks itu menjadikan dirinya bergerak beriringan dengan suatu indeks acuan. dalam hal ini R-45ETF menggunakan indeks LQ45. berpikir simpel dulu .. TFI (selaku manajer investasi) pada saat IPO nanti akan menerima sejumlah uang (SPONSOR, Dana Pensiun, Investor Retail). Katakan XX Milliard. Satu hari sebelum IPO, dana ini akan digunakan untuk membeli saham-saham yang tergolong di dalam saham-saham kelompok Indeks LQ45 sesuai dengan komposisi (bobot) masing-masing saham di indeks LQ45 tersebut. Ambil contoh TLKM bobotnya sekitar 21% di LQ45 Nah pada hari itu akan dihitung optimalisasi pendekatan dengan indeks LQ45, saham-saham mana saja yang dapat dipilih. Kira-kira 20 kode saham. Setelah terpilih kode-kode saham tersebut (TLKM, BBRI, BBCA, ASII, dst), maka akan dihitung total bobotnya, kira2 mencapai 85% dari keseluruhan kapitalisasi pasar Indeks LQ45. Selanjutnya dilakukan pembobotan kembali sampai mendekati 100%. Nah dengan Uang yang sudah terkumpul tadi akan dibelikan saham-saham yang sudah dipilih. Jadilah sebuah Reksadana dengan total asset XX Milliard. Nah selanjutnya akan diputuskan NAB awal adalah sebesar Rp. 1.000,- Maka XX Milliar akan dibagi dengan 1.000,- akan munculan lembar saham R-45ETF yang akan beredar di bursa efek jakarta. Nah selanjutnya saham-saham ini akan didistribusikan kepada pemiliknya di sekuritas masing-masing, sehingga mereka bisa mentransaksikannya di PASAR REGULER Bursa Efek Jakarta. NOTE : PEMILIHAN SAHAM DIDALAM LQ45 untuk R-45ETF ini menggunakan metoda Sampling, bukan Full Replicate terhadap 45 saham dalam kelompok LQ45, karena hanya dengan sekitar 20 saham saja, sudah mencerminkan pergerakan indeks LQ45. Dan juga dilakukan demikian untuk pendekatan efisiensi. Kiranya ini sedikit penjelasan dari saya, mohon tanggapan, terima kasih. Regards, Patric --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, investor_ngesot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya udah ikut seminarnya dan baca websitenya.. tp masih gak ngerti dengan istilah 'open ended'. Apa itu maksudnya..? jadi kesimpulannya ETF ini invest di saham perusahaan investasi yg menyusun portfolionya dari LQ45 gitu ya.. bukan dari performa portfolio LQ45 itu sendiri ? tolong dijelaskan pak.. tks --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Patric patric@ wrote: Hadirilah seminar Exchange Traded Funds sebagai alternatif investasi selain bertransaksi saham. R-45ETF adalah Reksadana yang diperdagangkan di bursa yang mengambil Index LQ45 sebagai pendekatannya. ** PT. Treasure Fund Investama PT. Universal Broker Indonesia PT. Henan Putihrai PT. Danatama Makmur
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Turbulence Is Back !
ngomongin saya ya... -GR.com- On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:37:34 +0700, Jin Kazama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gini aja deh, si bloon, si bleki, si pusitidur bersama aja siapa tau hadir si begokekekekekkek + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS
SELL TINS Target berikutnya ke bawah Rp.10.000,- Salam JACK - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS
Pernahkah anda menghitung berapa EPS TINS, dan rata-2 harga jual TINS bulan Juli dan Agustus 2007 ini? Jangan samakan kinerja TINS dgn ANTM, berbeda. Harga jual ANTM 2 bulan terakhir ini sdh turun 20% sdgn TINS, harga rata-2 saat ini masih diatas harga rata-2 jual 1Q'2007. Perlu saudara ketahui selama harga jual rata-2 TINS masih diatas harga jual selama 1Q'2007, maka kinerja TINS masih sangat bagus. Lin halnya jika harga jual nyemplung seperti nikel. Ceritanya jadi berbeda. 2007/8/29, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SELL TINS Target berikutnya ke bawah Rp.10.000,- Salam JACK -- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Nowhttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48223/*http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow(it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS
Hehehe... Rp.5000 ya mas? Sampeyan gatel kalo nggak posting ya mas? Posting yang nggak jelas... Hehehe... 2007/8/30, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SELL TINS Target berikutnya ke bawah Rp.10.000,- Salam JACK -- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Nowhttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48223/*http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow(it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS
Maklum Pak Jack ada cash 90%, 10% saham.
[obrolan-bandar] TIMAH
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] etrading payah?
Yah..etrading koq pengalaman aku baik2 aja yah..CS nya responsif, sih, aku email baru 5 menit dari medan udah direspon dan sore dana udah done. Mungkin ngak semua yah. Hanya emang backofficenya agak kurang rapi. emang catatan transaksi di account lippo dan etrading agak beda, tapi etrading masih ok... Pahala Baringbing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pengalaman saya menggunakan etrading gak jelek2 amatlah namanya error, telat update dsb emang kadang terjadi tapi selama ini saya udah banyak terbantu dan diuntungkan dalam transaksi menggunakan etrading jadi overall saya kasih nilai 80 (very good) buat etrading. kalo etrading bisa mengimprove administrasi dan proses update kemudian didukung kehandalan HOTSnya barulah mereka dapat nilai 99 (excellence) - From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jin Kazama Sent: 29 Agustus 2007 22:25 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] etrading payah? pengalaman sayagaji orang TI nya kekecilan, makanya stress kerja, terus tak betah dan hengkangmakanya etrading suka nahan duit orang, masak udah ditransfer, butuh beberapa hari untuk masuk ke account gwgile abis...duit gw dikemanain dulu tuh sampe gw mau trading kagak bisakrn di account blm ada duit nya.. dibuat trading dulu kali yee ama etrading.buat bayar gaji karyawan. sorry banget etradinghabis kenyataan nya begitu. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.12/979 - Release Date: 29/08/2007 20:21 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.12/979 - Release Date: 29/08/2007 20:21 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Menuju 200 : Bukan ELTY tapi ...
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[obrolan-bandar] FW: TINS 1h07 net profit naik 3167%
From: Achmad Syafriel Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 13:38 Subject: TINS 1h07 Timah 1H07-Good performance in 1H07 * Sales up 136% y-o-y to Rp4.1tn due to significant higher price and volume of tin, after the crackdown of illegal smelter since October 2006. * Since cost are held down, gross and operating profit increased 639% y-o-y and 1,766% y-o-y. * Margins are much higher than last year. * As a result, net profit up 3,167% y-o-y to Rp781bn. * The company also plans to split its stocks, however no further detail on the scheme yet. Income Statement (Rpbn) 1H06 1H07 Change Total Sales 1,729 4,078 135.8% Gross Profit 200 1,477 638.5% Operating Profit 68 1,271 1765.9% Pre-tax profit 56 1,187 2008.3% Net Profit 24 781 3166.9% EPS 47.7 1551.7 3153.0% Gross margin 11.6% 36.2% Operating Margin 7.6% 5.1% Net Margin 1.4% 19.1% ROA 0.8% 18.0% ROE 1.6% 33.2% Balance Sheet (Rpbn) Total Assets 2,882 4,329 50.2% Total Liabilities 1,382 1,978 43.2% Minority Interest 0.003 0.003 21.0% Total Equity 1,500 2,351 56.7% Total Liabilities and Equity 2,882 4,329 50.2% Source: Company Best regards, Achmad Syafriel Analyst Research Department PT. Bahana Securities DISCLAIMER This email may contain privileged and/or confidential Information intended only for the use of the addressee. If you are not the addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the person addressed, you may not use any part of it, forward, disclose, copy or deliver this to anyone else. If you receive this email by mistake, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender by return email. Internet communications can not be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus free, the sender does not accept any liability for error or omissions. The information contained in this email and/or report is not be taken as any recommendation made by PT. Bahana Securities or any other person to enter into any agreement and/or take position with regard to any investment mentioned in this document. This email and/or report is prepared in general circulation. It does not have any intention to the specific person who may receive this email and/or report. In considering any investments you should make your own independent assessment and seek your own professional financial and legal advice.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: etrading payah?
Setau saya memang ada delay waktu antara setelah setor n masuk nilai uang di HOTS nya etrading. Memang kayaknya sistemnya gak real time. Tapi kayaknya kalo kita mau buru2 transaksi, bukti setoran uang ke etrading bisa di fax trus kita informasikan ke CS-nya. Dan mereka akan mengupdate nilai uang kita di HOTS. Ini setahu saya lho y.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, indriyanta s. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pakai beberapa sekuritas sangat sangat setuju banget.. Immanuel Budianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wah...wah... lagi pada ributin etrading nih saya pribadi punya acc di eTrading, selama saya join disana tidak ada terlalu byk problem, hanya memang beberapa kali HOTSnya error untuk beberapa menit, sebenarnya kalau tidak mau pusing, kita punya acc di bbrp sekuritas saja, jd tidak terlalu tergantung oleh eTrading, klo mau, realtime data ya pake HOTS, nah kalo transaksinya cari sekuritas laen aja (jika Transaksi eTrading tdk memuaskan), tinggal angkat telpon... gitu aja kok repot... - Original Message - From: Jin Kazama To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] etrading payah? pengalaman sayagaji orang TI nya kekecilan, makanya stress kerja, terus tak betah dan hengkangmakanya etrading suka nahan duit orang, masak udah ditransfer, butuh beberapa hari untuk masuk ke account gwgile abis...duit gw dikemanain dulu tuh sampe gw mau trading kagak bisakrn di account blm ada duit nya.. dibuat trading dulu kali yee ama etrading.buat bayar gaji karyawan. sorry banget etradinghabis kenyataan nya begitu. - Original Message - From: Soepri Jono To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] etrading payah? dua2nya kali bobroknyakan yang pinter2 TI dah pada hengkang - Original Message From: steve ivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:44:05 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] etrading payah? semua orang mengkritik etrading.. apakah sistem internet nya yg jelek atau orang2 bobrok di belakang nya yang memanipulasi? ?? please VOTE... - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.
Hal: [obrolan-bandar] bung Bandar kecil
weleh-weleh, bung bandar, MIRA dah terbang nih gimana dong... telat baca postingnya... masi bisa masuk ga??? Btw, thanks sekali lg buat posting POLY pertamakali, sy beli dan cuan...masi ingat sampai skrg.. arigato, xie-xie, thanks, matur suwun, terimakasih... Memo: saham apalagi nih?? - Pesan Asli Dari: bandar kecil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 30 Agustus, 2007 11:25:08 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: WATCHOUT - KIJA pak James, kapan paling lambat 500 nya ? atau 300 aja deh, kira2 kapan. soalnya kayaknya nih sahamnya p' mu'min, biasanya bolot banget dah. bisa lama. kayak panin group. kalo lagi naik, emang bisa kenceng, tapi kalo lagi diiemin bisa lama juga tuh. mendingan MIRA aja deh, yg jelas, katanya mau right issue di 250. ada yg mau back door listing denger2 sih perusahaannya TS. jadi paling nggak dalam waktu deket bisa ditarik ampe 270an. Gimana boz www.titan [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.tw wrote: Pak James kasih sinyal nih ??? : tapi kalo saya msh maen di banking dan farmasi Goodluck pak. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, James Arifin james.arifin@ ... wrote: denger2 KIJA katanya mau ke 500 ... heheh Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Re: etrading
Salam kenal juga mas yudi. Saya juga mengalami hal yg sama dengan yang di alami oleh mas yudi. Saya bahkan bela2 in dateng dari Cilegon ke Jakarta, hari minggu kemarin, hanya untuk menyerahkan aplikasi pembukaan rekening di e-lippo yang menurut mereka belum ditanda tangani (padahal seinget saya, sudah saya tanda tangani semua) Saya sgt antusias sekali ingin segera trading di bursa lewat e-trading. Namun, sampai dengan hari ini saya masih belum dikontak oleh CSnya. Saya udah kontak via call langsung ke 2 marketingnya, tapi tidak diangkat. SMS nya juga tidak dibalas. Mengenai uang yang 250.000, saya belum transfer ke mereka. Saya masih belum sreg, koq ditransfernya via rekening pribadi, bukan Corporate. Malahan sebelumnya si marketing nya bilang, 'pak uang nya dimasukkin aja ke amplop TIKI' (ntar kalo ilang mereka blame kita, suruh kirim lagi kali...). Saya keberatan, akhirnya mereka kasih no rek bca an pribadi. salam, Irawan * yg lagi hunting broker dgn fee jual beli 0.3 % minimum initial deposit 20 jt. -Original Message- From: Yudiharto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: irawan palgunadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:45:58 - Subject: etrading Salam kenal Pak Irawan. Mungkin saya juga bernasib sama dengan anda, saya sdah 1 minggu ini diproses tapi belum selesai, saya ada telp ke CS diJakarta katanya masih di PATRA? saya nggak tau kenapa kok lama prosesnya. Pertama kali saya daftar, saya telpon ke Jakarta dan setelah itu di hubungi melalui Agen di Bandung. dan Setelah diproses (juga saya telah transfer uang sebesar Rp.250.000,- atas nama perorangan) untuk pembuakaan rek. ELippo, tapi beberapa hari ini saya hub. agen tersebut jarang di angkat Hpnya. saya langsung telp ke JKt, tapi ya itu tadi masih dalam proses katanya. Apakah Pak Irawan juga seperti itu? Terima Kasih. Yudi - Bali
Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS
HAHAHAHAHAHAini baru bandar nekatudah punya uang banyak om...ayo short kalo punya barang...ai tampung... On 8/30/07, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SELL TINS Target berikutnya ke bawah Rp.10.000,- Salam JACK -- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Nowhttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48223/*http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow(it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS
Rationale -nya Pak Jack?
Saya sih setuju aja kalo kebawah 10.000, cuman tolong di share dong sebab2-nya,
biar kita bisa sama2 bisa belajar
- Original Message
From: Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:21:27 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS
SELL TINS
Target berikutnya ke bawah Rp.10.000,-
Salam
JACK
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[obrolan-bandar] TIME TO SELL !
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Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] bung Bandar kecil
MIRA yg dulu pernah hamil bareng META. mbrojolnya baru sekarang. denger2 sih katanya blue bird yg mau ambil (backdoor listing). Kalo mau beli sekarang. ya agak2 judi gitu. karena MoUnya belum diteken. katanya sih right issue di 250. Nah kalo bener hal itu masih on, dan kalau besok nggak DISUSPEND ama BEJ, MIRA bakalan at least ke 270an. tapi kalo nggak jadi (kemungkinannya kecil). ya take arisk. untuk harga sekarang udah JUDI boz. Be careful. bobby gosal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: weleh-weleh, bung bandar, MIRA dah terbang nih gimana dong... telat baca postingnya... masi bisa masuk ga??? Btw, thanks sekali lg buat posting POLY pertamakali, sy beli dan cuan...masi ingat sampai skrg.. arigato, xie-xie, thanks, matur suwun, terimakasih... Memo: saham apalagi nih?? - Pesan Asli Dari: bandar kecil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 30 Agustus, 2007 11:25:08 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: WATCHOUT - KIJA pak James, kapan paling lambat 500 nya ? atau 300 aja deh, kira2 kapan. soalnya kayaknya nih sahamnya p' mu'min, biasanya bolot banget dah. bisa lama. kayak panin group. kalo lagi naik, emang bisa kenceng, tapi kalo lagi diiemin bisa lama juga tuh. mendingan MIRA aja deh, yg jelas, katanya mau right issue di 250. ada yg mau back door listing denger2 sih perusahaannya TS. jadi paling nggak dalam waktu deket bisa ditarik ampe 270an. Gimana boz www.titan [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.tw wrote: Pak James kasih sinyal nih ??? : tapi kalo saya msh maen di banking dan farmasi Goodluck pak. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, James Arifin james.arifin@ ... wrote: denger2 KIJA katanya mau ke 500 ... heheh - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. - Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answers - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
[obrolan-bandar] Profit taking ramai2 seAsia, Fed akan menurunkan rate
Amerika naik 2%, Eropa naik 1%, .. Asia hari ini cuma sekitar 1%, profit taking ramai2 menjelang nanti malam pengumuman GDP US ... Kalau di Eropa omongan Bernanke malah ditanggapin positif,he he tanya kenapa, omongan Bernanke dianggap akan menurunkan FED: LONDON, Aug 30 (Reuters) - European shares are set to rise on Thursday, tracking gains in the U.S. and Asian markets after comments from U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke raised hopes of an interest rate cut and boosted by upbeat results from Carrefour (CARR.PA: Quote, Profile, Research), Diageo (DGE.L: Quote, Profile, Research) and InBev (INTB.BR: Quote, Profile, Research). A letter from Bernanke, in which he said the Fed was prepared to act as needed to ensure credit market troubles do not adversely affect the economy, added to investor speculation for a much hoped-for interest rate cut. Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MACD IHSG yang seksi
Perlu diketahu MACD diturunkan dari harga/indek saja, jadi tetap perhatikan volume.. jangan sampai menjadi korban dari keseksian yang menggoda.. Andrew wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BENARKAH??? - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more.
[obrolan-bandar] Mbah kok sepiii banget, sepi pertanda mau terbang atau merosot?
Mbah kok sepi bener hari ini. Sepi pertanda mau terbang atau merosot? Ditunggu petunjuknya Mbah. :D
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FW: TINS 1h07 net profit naik 3167%
1H07 itu artinya semester 1 bukan pak cmiiw On 8/30/07, Agung Cap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *From:* Achmad Syafriel *Sent:* 30 Agustus 2007 13:38 *Subject:* TINS 1h07 *Timah 1H07-Good performance in 1H07* · Sales up 136% y-o-y to Rp4.1tn due to significant higher price and volume of tin, after the crackdown of illegal smelter since October 2006. · Since cost are held down, gross and operating profit increased 639% y-o-y and 1,766% y-o-y. · Margins are much higher than last year. · As a result, net profit up 3,167% y-o-y to Rp781bn. · The company also plans to split its stocks, however no further detail on the scheme yet. *Income Statement (Rpbn)* *1H06* *1H07* *Change* Total Sales 1,729 4,078 135.8% Gross Profit 200 1,477 638.5% Operating Profit 68 1,271 1765.9% Pre-tax profit 56 1,187 2008.3% Net Profit 24 781 3166.9% EPS 47.7 1551.7 3153.0% Gross margin 11.6% 36.2% Operating Margin 7.6% 5.1% Net Margin 1.4% 19.1% ROA 0.8% 18.0% ROE 1.6% 33.2% *Balance Sheet (Rpbn)* Total Assets 2,882 4,329 50.2% Total Liabilities 1,382 1,978 43.2% Minority Interest 0.003 0.003 21.0% Total Equity 1,500 2,351 56.7% Total Liabilities and Equity 2,882 4,329 50.2% *Source: Company* *Best regards,* * * *Achmad Syafriel*** *Analyst* *Research Department* *PT. Bahana Securities* * * *DISCLAIMER* This email may contain privileged and/or confidential Information intended only for the use of the addressee. If you are not the addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the person addressed, you may not use any part of it, forward, disclose, copy or deliver this to anyone else. If you receive this email by mistake, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender by return email. Internet communications can not be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus free, the sender does not accept any liability for error or omissions. The information contained in this email and/or report is not be taken as any recommendation made by PT. Bahana Securities or any other person to enter into any agreement and/or take position with regard to any investment mentioned in this document. This email and/or report is prepared in general circulation. It does not have any intention to the specific person who may receive this email and/or report. In considering any investments you should make your own independent assessment and seek your own professional financial and legal advice.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] WATCHOUT - KIJA
Tapi sayangnya kok turun lagi yah ??? From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jin Kazama Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 7:47 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WATCHOUT - KIJA hmm..pak oen nyerempet KIJA, padahal blm tau pasti, mr Boyz ngomongin KIJA, bahkan pak JA pun rumorin KIJA pula.gak salah nih kalo buy KIJA ya.hehehehe. - Original Message - From: James Arifin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WATCHOUT - KIJA denger2 KIJA katanya mau ke 500 ... heheh On 8/29/07, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oentoeng_qq wrote: Pokok e kalau kita NGGAK SALAH PILIH sahamnya yg mana, bisa CUAN 10% dalam 1-2 hari ke depan. Hari ini saja saham saya ADA yg sudah CUAN 10%. Kalau sudah REBOUND jangan lupa BERSIH2... Sambil nunggu PENTUNGAN BERIKUTNYA... maksudnya KIJA ya mr.Oen? lap keu H1 nya bagus, laba bersih naik 100% (see attachment) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! image001.gifimage002.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] WATCHOUT - KIJA
denger2nya sih kija hari ini dipentung.. jadi siapa pentung siapa nih On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:56:51 +0700, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tapi sayangnya kok turun lagi yah ??? From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jin Kazama Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 7:47 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WATCHOUT - KIJA hmm..pak oen nyerempet KIJA, padahal blm tau pasti, mr Boyz ngomongin KIJA, bahkan pak JA pun rumorin KIJA pula.gak salah nih kalo buy KIJA ya.hehehehe. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: Balasan: [saham] RE: [obrolan-bandar] WATCHOUT - KIJA]
Udah break ke 230 tapi balik lagi ke 210, gimana nih Pa ABN From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aria Bela Nusa Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 10:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Balasan: [saham] RE: [obrolan-bandar] WATCHOUT - KIJA] Importance: High Yg pasti - target 50 % (di 215) dr koreksi2 kemaren2 (ditarik dr terendah 180 tertinggi di 270) telah tercapai (malahan terlampaui saat ini) - tinggal mencapai target 100 % di 270 selanjutnya, dstnya Beberapa pertimbangan2 laennya : o Ada pembangunan proyek dry port o Bottom-line (net income) diperkirakan kembali di atas angka 100 - 200 mil o Mulai kemaren FX Broker (net) buy o Target DB = 280 o Hari ini mencoba break 61.8 % di 225 + kembali ke up-trendings channelings semula Happy chuan, Aria Dear Bung Aria kira-kira kija hari ini mau ke berapa dan berapa TPnya akhir tahun? thanks Dana Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:ariabela%40centrin.net.id wrote: Mudah2an bottom-line taon ini (net income) dapet tembus 100 – 200 Mil kembali (spt sedia kala taon2 sebelonnya) + ada pembangunan/pengembangan proyek dry port Happy chuan, Aria - From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of boyz Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:48 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WATCHOUT - KIJA oentoeng_qq wrote: Pokok e kalau kita NGGAK SALAH PILIH sahamnya yg mana, bisa CUAN 10% dalam 1-2 hari ke depan. Hari ini saja saham saya ADA yg sudah CUAN 10%. Kalau sudah REBOUND jangan lupa BERSIH2... Sambil nunggu PENTUNGAN BERIKUTNYA... maksudnya KIJA ya mr.Oen? lap keu H1 nya bagus, laba bersih naik 100% (see attachment) - Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answers No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! image001.gifimage002.gif
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: WATCHOUT - KIJA
Setau saya Kija punya Pa Dwi dan bukan Pa Mu'Min alias Panin Group. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bandar kecil Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 10:25 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: WATCHOUT - KIJA pak James, kapan paling lambat 500 nya ? atau 300 aja deh, kira2 kapan. soalnya kayaknya nih sahamnya p' mu'min, biasanya bolot banget dah. bisa lama. kayak panin group. kalo lagi naik, emang bisa kenceng, tapi kalo lagi diiemin bisa lama juga tuh. mendingan MIRA aja deh, yg jelas, katanya mau right issue di 250. ada yg mau back door listing denger2 sih perusahaannya TS. jadi paling nggak dalam waktu deket bisa ditarik ampe 270an. Gimana boz www.titan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak James kasih sinyal nih ??? : tapi kalo saya msh maen di banking dan farmasi Goodluck pak. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: denger2 KIJA katanya mau ke 500 ... heheh _ Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48220/*http:/tv.yahoo.com/ tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! image001.gifimage002.gif
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Analisa DE : Besok hijau............
Candle hari ini nyaris sesuai perhitungan. Apakah akan berlanjut besok? Regards, DE c_20070829.gif image002.gif
[obrolan-bandar] UPDATE : SMALL GATHERING 30 AGUSTUS 2007 DI UNIVERSAL BROKER INDONESIA ( 10 - 12 ORANG )
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNSP--- pak Tasrul tlg di jelasin dong?
pak Tasrul maksudnya apa ya saya gak ngerti baca chartnya tolong di jelasin ya? Tasrul Tanar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Semoga membantu yang lagi sesak nafas... - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 01:59:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Tasrul Tanar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UNSP To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Semoga membantu yang lagi sesak nafas.. - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 01:56:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Tasrul Tanar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Semoga membantu.. - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. Bakrie Sumatra Plantations Tbk (id;UNSP) Data for 08/30/2007 Exp Trend N/A id;UNSP Open 1,400.00 High 1,430.00 Low 1,320.00 Close 1,330.00 Volume 29,567,500 Open Int. 0 Price Chg. -50.00 Tasrul W 729.332 Tasrul S 1,428.30 Tasrul D Tasrul S 1,141.27 Tasrul U Vol 29,567,500 Tasrul T 23,387,832.0 Created in MetaStock from Equis International www.equis.com - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
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[obrolan-bandar] Analisa DE : Besok hijau............
Pakde, Pake software apa nih ? cakep euy Masukin datanya cuma data pembukaan, maks dan penutupan yak ?? / A3K From: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:49 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar Candle hari ini nyaris sesuai perhitungan. Apakah akan berlanjut besok? Regards
[obrolan-bandar] Sisa Penjualan ANTM Semester I, 2007
Kalau kita memperhatikan lap keu smst I pada Pos pendapatan disebutkan Rp 6,013 T sedangkan pada lap Kwartal II Antm yg ditujukan pada ASX ( utk melihat buka www.antam.com lihat halaman paling bawah ada announcements to the ASX klik disitu dan cari Second Quarter Activities Report kemudian klik ) disebutkan penjualan utk smstr I sebesar Rp 6,823 T. berarti ada perbedaan Rp 800 M lebih penjualan bln juni yg akan dibukukan pada kuartal III ( Transaksi dan barang sudah dikirim Juni tapi pembayaran di terima awal Juli ), dimana penjualan tersebut mempunyai margin yg cukup tinggi krn harga nikcel masih lebih mahal dari harga sekarang, kalau nggak salah marginnya sekitar 49% berarti utk smstr III ini antm sudah memiliki tabungan laba bersih sekitar Rp 400 M belum lagi ditambah dg penjualan dari bln Juli - Sept 07. OKE KHAN.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi
sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Herman *Sent:* 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi
Maksudnya Jack itu harga saham TINS turun ke hrg Rp.10.000,- Sementara Herman itu mengenai harga komoditas timah yang nembus USD.15.000 lagi. Jadi beda dong, antara jenisnya (hrg saham hrg komoditas) dan mata uangnya (USD Rp.) Salam, Sanjaya - Original Message From: sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:39:57 PM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi
Ambil jalan tengah aja pak, 12500. heheheh. Regards, DE From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sbudianaY Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:40 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi Importance: High Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.12/979 - Release Date: 8/29/2007 8:21 PM image001.jpg
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Analisa DE : Besok hijau............
Mohon diingat ini (seperti layaknya trading tools lain) hanya menghitung probabilitas. Nama softwarenya belum ada. Datanya adalah data IHSG dan korelasi dengan market lain. Regards, DE -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 6:12 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Analisa DE : Besok hijau Pakde, Pake software apa nih ? cakep euy Masukin datanya cuma data pembukaan, maks dan penutupan yak ?? / A3K
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi
Kalo output 2Q 07 sama dengan 2H07 berarti PT. Timah tutup pabrik dong 6 bulan.. gitu maksudnya... Ah yang bener aza... 2H 07 itu kan bearti 1Q + 2Q + 3Q + 4Q 07. - Original Message From: Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 6:12:20 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi
maksudnya output 2Q 2007 = 2H2007 artinya 3Q 2007 kurang lebih output 1/2 Q2 2007, ada yg bisa cek berapa pengiriman TINS di bulan Juli dan Agustus 2007? kalau memang kurang dari 1/3 output Q2 2007 maka klaim bung Hmin betul. Ada yg berkenan mengecek kebenarannya ... biar nggak ada yang ngomong tanpa dasar On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Hal: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS
Jangan percaya pak, gak jelas itu biasanya mo buy dulu kasus tmpi sebar sms kemana-mana gak blh sell belakangan ketahuan dia punya seabrek dan ngaku loss Sory - Pesan Asli Dari: Glenn Garibaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 30 Agustus, 2007 1:57:00 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS Hehehe... Rp.5000 ya mas? Sampeyan gatel kalo nggak posting ya mas? Posting yang nggak jelas... Hehehe... 2007/8/30, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] com: SELL TINS Target berikutnya ke bawah Rp.10.000,- Salam JACK Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi
Saya juga bingung, laporanya laba bersih naik 31x periode sebelum nya kok malah ada yang prediksi harga akan frefall ke 10.000 Kalau saya sih, lihat nya harga wajarya 15.000-20.000 coba bandingin dengan sektor pertambangan lainya panji larang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo output 2Q 07 sama dengan 2H07 berarti PT. Timah tutup pabrik dong 6 bulan.. gitu maksudnya... Ah yang bener aza... 2H 07 itu kan bearti 1Q + 2Q + 3Q + 4Q 07. - Original Message From: Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 6:12:20 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 - I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS
EPS per Q2 2007 = 1500an, PER 5x maka harga wajar TINS = 7500 tapi itu kalau TINS nggak produksi apa2 selama 2H 2007. Bila info Hmin dianggap benar dimana output 2H 2007 = output 2Q 2007 maka Q1 2007 EPS=624 ~ 650 maka EPS Q2 2007 = 850. Estimate 07 FY EPS = 650+850+850 = 2350 (worse case). EPS 5x maka TINS price = 12250 artinya harga sekarang sudah price in. Artinya ini hitung hitungan terjelek, tapi apa benar performance 2H 2007 sangat jelek sehingga kapasitas produksi per bulan cuma 1/6 dari produksi Q2 2007? Apakah inventory sudah diperhitungkan. Bisa saja export turun tapi produksi tetap dan sisanya masuk inventory. Just check what is the output in July and August then we know who is trying to fool who On 8/30/07, Sutikno Tikno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jangan percaya pak, gak jelas itu biasanya mo buy dulu kasus tmpi sebar sms kemana-mana gak blh sell belakangan ketahuan dia punya seabrek dan ngaku loss Sory - Pesan Asli Dari: Glenn Garibaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 30 Agustus, 2007 1:57:00 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS Hehehe... Rp.5000 ya mas? Sampeyan gatel kalo nggak posting ya mas? Posting yang nggak jelas... Hehehe... 2007/8/30, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] com: SELL TINS Target berikutnya ke bawah Rp.10.000,- Salam JACK Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answers
Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS
bung jack cuma bilang sell, gak bilang short lho.. sapa tau modalnya dia dari mungutin di harga 10rb, masa gak boleh sell.. heheee kl emang tins bagus, dan ada yg kasih barang murah koq pada ngomel ya.. harusnya pada nadahin kan On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:19:29 +0700, Sutikno Tikno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jangan percaya pak, gak jelas itu biasanya mo buy dulu kasus tmpi sebar sms kemana-mana gak blh sell belakangan ketahuan dia punya seabrek dan ngaku loss + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] WATCHOUT - KIJA
day trade akan makin sulit karena boss nggak mau kasih duit gampang tiap hari ke trader. saat model begini buy dan tungguin kl naik sampai 400 yah jual aja walau target ke 500, anggap aja itu cuan buat bandar. Kalau buy sekarang dan sell tahun depan di kisaran 400 perak, cuan hampir 100% apa nggak ngalahin bunga deposito. Jangan pas sudah 400 baru sibuk mau ikutan beli karena akan naik ke 500, cuan 25% dikejar2 tahu2 dikerjain bandar kalau masuk sekarang bandar terpaksa bagi2 untung ama investor karena dia juga mau cuan On 8/30/07, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: denger2nya sih kija hari ini dipentung.. jadi siapa pentung siapa nih On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:56:51 +0700, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tapi sayangnya kok turun lagi yah ??? From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jin Kazama Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 7:47 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WATCHOUT - KIJA hmm..pak oen nyerempet KIJA, padahal blm tau pasti, mr Boyz ngomongin KIJA, bahkan pak JA pun rumorin KIJA pula.gak salah nih kalo buy KIJA ya.hehehehe. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi
saya dapat dari RTI.. besok pasti masuk koran On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maksudnya output 2Q 2007 = 2H2007 artinya 3Q 2007 kurang lebih output 1/2 Q2 2007, ada yg bisa cek berapa pengiriman TINS di bulan Juli dan Agustus 2007? kalau memang kurang dari 1/3 output Q2 2007 maka klaim bung Hmin betul. Ada yg berkenan mengecek kebenarannya ... biar nggak ada yang ngomong tanpa dasar On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi
ada baiknya diposting aja karena kalau salah quote gimana? Jadi ingat BI salah tulis prospektus RI UNSP, siapa tahu salah tulis lagi atau salah quote On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya dapat dari RTI.. besok pasti masuk koran On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maksudnya output 2Q 2007 = 2H2007 artinya 3Q 2007 kurang lebih output 1/2 Q2 2007, ada yg bisa cek berapa pengiriman TINS di bulan Juli dan Agustus 2007? kalau memang kurang dari 1/3 output Q2 2007 maka klaim bung Hmin betul. Ada yg berkenan mengecek kebenarannya ... biar nggak ada yang ngomong tanpa dasar On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS
btw... jangan terlalu dimasukin hitungan.. Sekedar sharing aja soal TINS dari pengalaman saya. saya trading TINS ketika harga timah mulai konsolidasi di 14.000. dan saya baru out total di 12.650 (14 Agustus 2007)..sehari sebelum crash open di 11.000 alasan.. karena hari sebelumnya TIN di LME ditutup tanpa bid... sunggu luar biasa.. setelah break all time high di 17.000 bisa langsung turun ke 13.500 dalam 3 hari tanpa ada bid. dari situ saya mengambil kesimpulan.. bandar TIN di LME = bandar TINS = Insider PT Timah. hipotesa awal itu saya coba lagi tanggal 23 Agustus.. sekonyong-konyong harga TIN open gap ke 15.000.. seketika pula harga TINS ditarik ke 11.700.. di salah satu milis saya langsung tulis.. SHORT TINS.. beli BESOK buat yang punya. Dan dugaan saya benar. So.. saya ogah dipermainkan orang dengan cara seperti itu. Kalau ngak harga super diskon saya malas masuk TINS.. mau tidur nyenyak kalau malam tanpa terlalu bingung dengan gerakan harga timah di malam hari. so.. informasi soal output TINS saya dapat dari RTI. Yang bilang dirutnya sendiri. saya sih ngak terlalu peduli lagi dengan TINS.. buat saya TINS is over.. kecuali 10.000 On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EPS per Q2 2007 = 1500an, PER 5x maka harga wajar TINS = 7500 tapi itu kalau TINS nggak produksi apa2 selama 2H 2007. Bila info Hmin dianggap benar dimana output 2H 2007 = output 2Q 2007 maka Q1 2007 EPS=624 ~ 650 maka EPS Q2 2007 = 850. Estimate 07 FY EPS = 650+850+850 = 2350 (worse case). EPS 5x maka TINS price = 12250 artinya harga sekarang sudah price in. Artinya ini hitung hitungan terjelek, tapi apa benar performance 2H 2007 sangat jelek sehingga kapasitas produksi per bulan cuma 1/6 dari produksi Q2 2007? Apakah inventory sudah diperhitungkan. Bisa saja export turun tapi produksi tetap dan sisanya masuk inventory. Just check what is the output in July and August then we know who is trying to fool who On 8/30/07, Sutikno Tikno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jangan percaya pak, gak jelas itu biasanya mo buy dulu kasus tmpi sebar sms kemana-mana gak blh sell belakangan ketahuan dia punya seabrek dan ngaku loss Sory - Pesan Asli Dari: Glenn Garibaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 30 Agustus, 2007 1:57:00 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS Hehehe... Rp.5000 ya mas? Sampeyan gatel kalo nggak posting ya mas? Posting yang nggak jelas... Hehehe... 2007/8/30, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] com: SELL TINS Target berikutnya ke bawah Rp.10.000,- Salam JACK Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answers + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi
Rekomendasi sih jangan baca judul doang On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DJ PT Timah's 1H Profit Up On Tin Price; 2H Output May Be Lower JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Indonesia's PT Timah Tbk (TINS.JK), the world's biggest integrated tin producer, saw its net profit surge by more than 30% in the first half of this year, due to the company's higher production and soaring tin prices, a company official said Thursday. But overproduction of refined tin in the first half may result in the company decreasing output in the second half, said Prasetyo Saksono, a spokesman for PT Timah. The company reported a net profit of IDR780.8 billion in the first six months of 2007, up from IDR23.9 billion during the same period last year, said Saksono. PT Timah produced 32,567 metric tons of refined tin in the first half, up 54% from 21,134 tons a year earlier due to increasing tin ore supplies from land mining. But Saksono said the company's refined tin output target of 48,000 tons for 2007 means it might have to cut output in the second half. We should only be producing around 16,000 tons of refined tin in the second half of this year. But we may increase or decrease output based on tin prices in the international market. Saksono said the company doesn't have a restriction on how much refined tin it can export, and price valuation of tin is a prime consideration of how much tin the company mines and exports each year. He declined to state the price range for tin that would pressure the company to increase or decrease its output. The company recently halted spot sales of tin, reportedly because the price of tin on the London Metal Exchange was too low. Media reports said the company would resume spot sales only if the price went back above $15,000 a ton - a level last seen earlier this month. Saksono said the company will continue to monitor tin prices before resuming such sales. Spot tin sales constitute 20%-30% of the company's total sales. Contracted sales make up the remaining bulk of its sales. We have a greater commitment to our long-term buyers, and spot sales will always take second place to their needs, said Saksono, when asked if tin meant for spot sales will be made available to the company's contracted buyers. He said the company also increased its refined tin sales by 60% in the first half of this year, selling 30,456 tons compared with 19,038 tons in the first half of last year. PT Timah sold its tin at an average price of $13,459/ton in the first half, a 66% increase from $8,120/ton during the same period last year. The company reported sales revenue of IDR4.07 trillion for the first half of 2007, up from IDR1.73 trillion during the same period a year ago. Indonesia is the world's second-largest tin producer after China. -By Fawziah Selamat, Dow Jones Newswires; 62 21 3983 1277; [EMAIL PROTECTED] (END) Dow Jones Newswires August 30, 2007 05:01 ET (09:01 GMT) Copyright (c) 2007 Dow Jones Company, Inc.- - 05 01 AM EDT 08-30-07 On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya dapat dari RTI.. besok pasti masuk koran On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maksudnya output 2Q 2007 = 2H2007 artinya 3Q 2007 kurang lebih output 1/2 Q2 2007, ada yg bisa cek berapa pengiriman TINS di bulan Juli dan Agustus 2007? kalau memang kurang dari 1/3 output Q2 2007 maka klaim bung Hmin betul. Ada yg berkenan mengecek kebenarannya ... biar nggak ada yang ngomong tanpa dasar On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + +
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi
DJ PT Timah's 1H Profit Up On Tin Price; 2H Output May Be Lower JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Indonesia's PT Timah Tbk (TINS.JK), the world's biggest integrated tin producer, saw its net profit surge by more than 30% in the first half of this year, due to the company's higher production and soaring tin prices, a company official said Thursday. But overproduction of refined tin in the first half may result in the company decreasing output in the second half, said Prasetyo Saksono, a spokesman for PT Timah. The company reported a net profit of IDR780.8 billion in the first six months of 2007, up from IDR23.9 billion during the same period last year, said Saksono. PT Timah produced 32,567 metric tons of refined tin in the first half, up 54% from 21,134 tons a year earlier due to increasing tin ore supplies from land mining. But Saksono said the company's refined tin output target of 48,000 tons for 2007 means it might have to cut output in the second half. We should only be producing around 16,000 tons of refined tin in the second half of this year. But we may increase or decrease output based on tin prices in the international market. Saksono said the company doesn't have a restriction on how much refined tin it can export, and price valuation of tin is a prime consideration of how much tin the company mines and exports each year. He declined to state the price range for tin that would pressure the company to increase or decrease its output. The company recently halted spot sales of tin, reportedly because the price of tin on the London Metal Exchange was too low. Media reports said the company would resume spot sales only if the price went back above $15,000 a ton - a level last seen earlier this month. Saksono said the company will continue to monitor tin prices before resuming such sales. Spot tin sales constitute 20%-30% of the company's total sales. Contracted sales make up the remaining bulk of its sales. We have a greater commitment to our long-term buyers, and spot sales will always take second place to their needs, said Saksono, when asked if tin meant for spot sales will be made available to the company's contracted buyers. He said the company also increased its refined tin sales by 60% in the first half of this year, selling 30,456 tons compared with 19,038 tons in the first half of last year. PT Timah sold its tin at an average price of $13,459/ton in the first half, a 66% increase from $8,120/ton during the same period last year. The company reported sales revenue of IDR4.07 trillion for the first half of 2007, up from IDR1.73 trillion during the same period a year ago. Indonesia is the world's second-largest tin producer after China. -By Fawziah Selamat, Dow Jones Newswires; 62 21 3983 1277; [EMAIL PROTECTED] (END) Dow Jones Newswires August 30, 2007 05:01 ET (09:01 GMT) Copyright (c) 2007 Dow Jones Company, Inc.- - 05 01 AM EDT 08-30-07 On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya dapat dari RTI.. besok pasti masuk koran On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maksudnya output 2Q 2007 = 2H2007 artinya 3Q 2007 kurang lebih output 1/2 Q2 2007, ada yg bisa cek berapa pengiriman TINS di bulan Juli dan Agustus 2007? kalau memang kurang dari 1/3 output Q2 2007 maka klaim bung Hmin betul. Ada yg berkenan mengecek kebenarannya ... biar nggak ada yang ngomong tanpa dasar On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Tin tembus 15rb lagi
Following 50 60% increases in refined tin production and sales in the first half of this year, Indonesia's state-controlled producer PT Timah will cut output in the second half. http://www.itri.co.uk/pooled/articles/BF_NEWSART/view.asp?Q=BF_NEWSART_2\ 93020 Ini juga dari ITRI: A shortage of tin concentrates and strong demand is resulting in a surge in Chinese tin prices to levels well above LME prices. Latest spot prices in the Shanghai area quoted by the Antaike research company were RMB 149,000 152,000/tonne (US$19,700 20,100/tonne) yesterday. http://www.itri.co.uk/pooled/articles/BF_NEWSART/view.asp?Q=BF_NEWSART_2\ 93002 Asia mengkonsumsi 60% kebutuhan timah dunia. Tahu sendiri kan negara-negara mana di Asia yang rakus resources. Harga timah dunia rata-rata saja deh = (15,000 + 20,000)/2 = 17,500 ...:-) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya dapat dari RTI.. besok pasti masuk koran On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maksudnya output 2Q 2007 = 2H2007 artinya 3Q 2007 kurang lebih output 1/2 Q2 2007, ada yg bisa cek berapa pengiriman TINS di bulan Juli dan Agustus 2007? kalau memang kurang dari 1/3 output Q2 2007 maka klaim bung Hmin betul. Ada yg berkenan mengecek kebenarannya ... biar nggak ada yang ngomong tanpa dasar On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus :14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNSP--- pak Tasrul tlg di jelasin dong?
Berikut penjelasan saya, karena banyak yang nanya, Pertama saya mau koreksi dulu di bagian volume tertulis harga naik signifkan yang ini salah ketik, harusnya saat ini harga turun signifikan. Untuk melihat pergerakan saham ini kedepan perhatikan apakah besok ada kecendrungan : 1. Harga turun, tapi ada indikasi volume tidak mampu tembus trend volume dimana tertera pada 23,387,832 lembar, perhatikan apakah ada kecenderungan banyak kejadian di bawah rata-rata atau tidak. Jika banyak kejadian dibawah rata-rata dengan kondisi diatas berarti penurunan akan relatif melambat sehingga level rata-rata 1,277.46 dapat dijadikan buat sementara sebagai support kuat, namun jika banyak kejadian diatas rata-rata dengan kondisi diatas berarti ada peluang untuk naik namun cenderung sell on strenght (SOS) 2. Harga turun, ada indikasi volume tembus trend volume ini yang bahaya, apalagi jika banyak kejadian dibawah rata-rata,namun jika banyak kejadian diatas rata-rata ini hanya shooting support saja (biar pisaunya nancap dulu - cenderung membentuk double bottom) ada peluang harga balik arah, anda tinggal tentukan pada level berapa sebaiknya keluar, peluang anda keluar masih dibawah level 50 % (ingat trend menengahnya masih turun) 3. Harga naik, tembus trend volume, indikasi bagus buat naik (bye bye buat yang jual hari kamis dan yang kena margin call). Namun saya ingatkan tetaplah konsentrasi di level 50 % jika level ini bisa tembus banyak kejadian diatas rata-rata, sebaiknya hold dulu, tentukan target jual anda tak lebih dari satu garis diatas level 50 % (garis standard deviasi) karena peluang diatas ini kecil sekali kecuali ada kejadian luar biasa. 4. Harga naik , namun tidak tembus trend volume, artinya SOS, apalagi banyak kejadian dibawah rata-rata, jika banyak kejadian diatas rata-rata HOLD aja dulu, keluar tetap disekitar level 50 %. 5. Bagaimana jika harga saham anda sangat tinggi, menurut hemat saya bukan saat yang tepat buat cut loss asal jangan pakai margin, tunggu harga balik sedikit, baru cut, biar gak rugi banyak, gak ada namanya saham naik terus dan turun terus, bandar juga punya hitungan sampai pada level berapa dia kuat jual. 6. Jangan panik. Jika hari ini harga jatuh dalam dengan volume signifikan, cobalah berpikir mungkin gak harga jatuh lagi dengan volume relatif tinggi lagi melawati volume terakhir ?. Cobalah lihat lebih jernih bukankah trend harga diatas turun juga diikuti dengan volume yang turun berarti BOW secara umum. 7. Pada sesi pertama anda sudah tahu berapa kemungkinan volume akan tembus atau tidak. Harga gampang direkayasa namun volume tidak. Perhatikan banyak kejadian dan harga rata-rata jangan terpaku pada bid offer, bisa bias, aksi ganjal mengganjal banyak disini dan itu cuma taktik dengan tingkat spekulasi yang tinggi 8. Percaya diri aja jangan gampang terpengaruh issue dan selalu berdoa. Semoga sesak nafasnya udah mendingan... Hendra Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pak Tasrul maksudnya apa ya saya gak ngerti baca chartnya tolong di jelasin ya? Tasrul Tanar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Semoga membantu yang lagi sesak nafas... - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 01:59:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Tasrul Tanar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UNSP To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Semoga membantu yang lagi sesak nafas.. - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 01:56:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Tasrul Tanar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Semoga membantu.. - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. Bakrie Sumatra Plantations Tbk (id;UNSP) Data for 08/30/2007 Exp Trend N/A id;UNSP Open 1,400.00 High 1,430.00 Low 1,320.00 Close 1,330.00 Volume 29,567,500 Open Int. 0 Price Chg. -50.00 Tasrul W 729.332 Tasrul S 1,428.30 Tasrul D Tasrul S 1,141.27 Tasrul U Vol 29,567,500 Tasrul T 23,387,832.0 Created in MetaStock from Equis International www.equis.com - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.
Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS
agree with your point pak, intinya TINS nggak akan jual tin ke spot market kl LME nggak di atas 15000. Waktu crash mestinya bung Hmin sudah collect TINS di harga bawah 1 khan dikasih 8850 jadi mestinya bisa tidur nyenyak dong kalau kesempatan waktu itu nggak diambil yah sekarang jangan paksain dong ke harga segitu biar dapat barang. Kalau nggak mau dipermainkan dengan bandar yah mesti quit dari persahaman dong wong YEN aja waktu market crash kemarin bisa naik hingga 112 (4% dalam sehari) apa itu bukan dipermainkan juga? Aman sih main TLKM kali tapi TLK ADR juga dinaik turunin sesuka hati ama insider terus mau gimana dong wong TLKM yg kapitalisasi terbesar aja bisa dibikin yoyo. Anyway, nice discussion dan putuskan sendiri2 yah mau beli saham apa. Saya tidak ada rekomendasi biar Bandar bisa jalanin skenarionya sesuka hati siapa tahu dikasih murah di 8400 lagi On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw... jangan terlalu dimasukin hitungan.. Sekedar sharing aja soal TINS dari pengalaman saya. saya trading TINS ketika harga timah mulai konsolidasi di 14.000. dan saya baru out total di 12.650 (14 Agustus 2007)..sehari sebelum crash open di 11.000 alasan.. karena hari sebelumnya TIN di LME ditutup tanpa bid... sunggu luar biasa.. setelah break all time high di 17.000 bisa langsung turun ke 13.500 dalam 3 hari tanpa ada bid. dari situ saya mengambil kesimpulan.. bandar TIN di LME = bandar TINS = Insider PT Timah. hipotesa awal itu saya coba lagi tanggal 23 Agustus.. sekonyong-konyong harga TIN open gap ke 15.000.. seketika pula harga TINS ditarik ke 11.700.. di salah satu milis saya langsung tulis.. SHORT TINS.. beli BESOK buat yang punya. Dan dugaan saya benar. So.. saya ogah dipermainkan orang dengan cara seperti itu. Kalau ngak harga super diskon saya malas masuk TINS.. mau tidur nyenyak kalau malam tanpa terlalu bingung dengan gerakan harga timah di malam hari. so.. informasi soal output TINS saya dapat dari RTI. Yang bilang dirutnya sendiri. saya sih ngak terlalu peduli lagi dengan TINS.. buat saya TINS is over.. kecuali 10.000 On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EPS per Q2 2007 = 1500an, PER 5x maka harga wajar TINS = 7500 tapi itu kalau TINS nggak produksi apa2 selama 2H 2007. Bila info Hmin dianggap benar dimana output 2H 2007 = output 2Q 2007 maka Q1 2007 EPS=624 ~ 650 maka EPS Q2 2007 = 850. Estimate 07 FY EPS = 650+850+850 = 2350 (worse case). EPS 5x maka TINS price = 12250 artinya harga sekarang sudah price in. Artinya ini hitung hitungan terjelek, tapi apa benar performance 2H 2007 sangat jelek sehingga kapasitas produksi per bulan cuma 1/6 dari produksi Q2 2007? Apakah inventory sudah diperhitungkan. Bisa saja export turun tapi produksi tetap dan sisanya masuk inventory. Just check what is the output in July and August then we know who is trying to fool who On 8/30/07, Sutikno Tikno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jangan percaya pak, gak jelas itu biasanya mo buy dulu kasus tmpi sebar sms kemana-mana gak blh sell belakangan ketahuan dia punya seabrek dan ngaku loss Sory - Pesan Asli Dari: Glenn Garibaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 30 Agustus, 2007 1:57:00 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS Hehehe... Rp.5000 ya mas? Sampeyan gatel kalo nggak posting ya mas? Posting yang nggak jelas... Hehehe... 2007/8/30, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] com: SELL TINS Target berikutnya ke bawah Rp.10.000,- Salam JACK Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answers + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tin tembus 15rb lagi
saya dukung tins nggak jualan tin di spot market kalau harga nggak premium wong kita bisa jadi price setter kok mau2nya terima harga yg ditentuin buyer. On 8/30/07, alfanendya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following 50 – 60% increases in refined tin production and sales in the first half of this year, Indonesia's state-controlled producer PT Timah will cut output in the second half. http://www.itri.co.uk/pooled/articles/BF_NEWSART/view.asp?Q=BF_NEWSART_293020 Ini juga dari ITRI: A shortage of tin concentrates and strong demand is resulting in a surge in Chinese tin prices to levels well above LME prices. Latest spot prices in the Shanghai area quoted by the Antaike research company were RMB 149,000 – 152,000/tonne (US$19,700 – 20,100/tonne) yesterday. http://www.itri.co.uk/pooled/articles/BF_NEWSART/view.asp?Q=BF_NEWSART_293002 Asia mengkonsumsi 60% kebutuhan timah dunia. Tahu sendiri kan negara-negara mana di Asia yang rakus resources. Harga timah dunia rata-rata saja deh = (15,000 + 20,000)/2 = 17,500 ...:-) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya dapat dari RTI.. besok pasti masuk koran On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maksudnya output 2Q 2007 = 2H2007 artinya 3Q 2007 kurang lebih output 1/2 Q2 2007, ada yg bisa cek berapa pengiriman TINS di bulan Juli dan Agustus 2007? kalau memang kurang dari 1/3 output Q2 2007 maka klaim bung Hmin betul. Ada yg berkenan mengecek kebenarannya ... biar nggak ada yang ngomong tanpa dasar On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus :14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] TINS- H1 Naik 35x? EPS nya jadi berapa ya??
lowest PER in mining industry cuma terjadi di INDO doang ... biggest tin producers cuma diharga PER 4, makanya bangsa ini nggak maju2 karena kurang menghargai perusahaan lokal atau orang2 lokal maupun semua berbau asing ... padahal ML aja prediksi ANTM ke 1400 apa nggak kurang goblog analisnya On 8/30/07, ihsg 88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eps 07 annualise jadi 3100. Atau Per 3,9x On 8/30/07, Angelo Ferdinand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timah Second-Quarter Profit Surges on Higher Tin Prices, Sales 2007-08-29 23:54 (New York) By Leony Aurora Aug. 30 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesia's PT Timah, the world's second-biggest tin miner and refiner, said profit in the second quarter soared 35 times as it sold more of the metal at higher prices. Net income in the three months to June 30 jumped to 466.5 billion rupiah ($49.6 million), or 927 rupiah a share, from 13.2 billion rupiah, or 26 rupiah, last year, the company said in a statement to the Jakarta Stock Exchange today. Sales surged to 2.22 trillion rupiah from 920 billion rupiah. --Editor: Lloyd-Smith
[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] WATCHOUT
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sekarang siapin MENTAL LAGI (and dll...) buat PENTUNGAN minggu DEPAN Kalau sudah REBOUND jangan lupa BERSIH2... Sambil nunggu PENTUNGAN BERIKUTNYA Pesennya: Mengingat banyaknya korban TABRAK LARI di BEJ, buat para trader yg sedang EMOSIonal ama ada gangguan pada kesehatan lebih baik TIDAK BERKELIARAN di jalanan. Kalau masih mau berpegang TA dan FA dalam kondisi ZIG ZAG begini SILAHKAN... Tapi tips dari saya: Duduklah di BELAKANG (persis) SOPIR, karena menurut STATISTIK dari setiap kecelakaan lebih banyak yg SELAMAT adalah SOPIRnya BUKAN PENUMPANGnya. Walaupun yg duduk di SEBELAH sopirnya. Apalagi kalau berurusan dg sopir METROMINI Bagaimanapun ini hanya TIPS untuk MENGURANGI resiko kecelakaan. Karena bulan depan masih ada PENTUNGAN2 LAINNYA yg HARUS kita terima. Sekali lagi ini semua CUMAN PREDIKSI Good Luck!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] TINS- H1 Naik 35x? EPS nya jadi berapa ya??
anyway EPS '07 untuk TINS nggak bisa disetahunin karena produksi 2H akan diturunkan untuk mencapai target produksi 48000 ton. Kalau harga LME TIN di atas 15000 maka TINS baru bersedia jualan lebih dari 48000. Saya dukung 100% strategi TINS ini On 8/30/07, ihsg 88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eps 07 annualise jadi 3100. Atau Per 3,9x On 8/30/07, Angelo Ferdinand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timah Second-Quarter Profit Surges on Higher Tin Prices, Sales 2007-08-29 23:54 (New York) By Leony Aurora Aug. 30 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesia's PT Timah, the world's second-biggest tin miner and refiner, said profit in the second quarter soared 35 times as it sold more of the metal at higher prices. Net income in the three months to June 30 jumped to 466.5 billion rupiah ($49.6 million), or 927 rupiah a share, from 13.2 billion rupiah, or 26 rupiah, last year, the company said in a statement to the Jakarta Stock Exchange today. Sales surged to 2.22 trillion rupiah from 920 billion rupiah. --Editor: Lloyd-Smith
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] WATCHOUT
kalau pentungannya nggak segede BAGONG seperti Agustus mah mestinya biasa aja namanya juga mau BIKIN MULAS2 biar KONTRAKSI terjadi dan habis itu baru muncul BAYI2 AJAIB. Kelihatan bung Oentoeng qq udah cuci gudang hari ini lagi buat besok nampungi muntahan murah meriah .. hheheh, kl nggak mau mules yah tidur aja dan nonton tarian perut BOZZ diiringi bung Oentoeng On 8/30/07, oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sekarang siapin MENTAL LAGI (and dll...) buat PENTUNGAN minggu DEPAN Kalau sudah REBOUND jangan lupa BERSIH2... Sambil nunggu PENTUNGAN BERIKUTNYA Pesennya: Mengingat banyaknya korban TABRAK LARI di BEJ, buat para trader yg sedang EMOSIonal ama ada gangguan pada kesehatan lebih baik TIDAK BERKELIARAN di jalanan. Kalau masih mau berpegang TA dan FA dalam kondisi ZIG ZAG begini SILAHKAN... Tapi tips dari saya: Duduklah di BELAKANG (persis) SOPIR, karena menurut STATISTIK dari setiap kecelakaan lebih banyak yg SELAMAT adalah SOPIRnya BUKAN PENUMPANGnya. Walaupun yg duduk di SEBELAH sopirnya. Apalagi kalau berurusan dg sopir METROMINI Bagaimanapun ini hanya TIPS untuk MENGURANGI resiko kecelakaan. Karena bulan depan masih ada PENTUNGAN2 LAINNYA yg HARUS kita terima. Sekali lagi ini semua CUMAN PREDIKSI Good Luck!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] TINS- H1 Naik 35x? EPS nya jadi berapa ya??
Pak James, Kalau melihat EPS yang cukup menjanjikan (dan itu adalah fakta audit yang gak mungkin bisa disembunyikan) dan potensi dividen yang bisa mencapai 50% dari EPS, apakah sang bandar (yang mencoba menahan laju kenaikan saham ini) masih mampu melawan animo investor? Paling tidak menjelang pembagian dividen? Kalau tidak mampu, berarti investor yang sudah terlanjur kumpulin TINS sejak 14ribuan bertahan aja ya jangan CL, atau nyerah aja? Thanks atas pencerahannya Angelo On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyway EPS '07 untuk TINS nggak bisa disetahunin karena produksi 2H akan diturunkan untuk mencapai target produksi 48000 ton. Kalau harga LME TIN di atas 15000 maka TINS baru bersedia jualan lebih dari 48000. Saya dukung 100% strategi TINS ini On 8/30/07, ihsg 88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ihsg88%40gmail.com wrote: Eps 07 annualise jadi 3100. Atau Per 3,9x On 8/30/07, Angelo Ferdinand [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelofc%40gmail.com wrote: Timah Second-Quarter Profit Surges on Higher Tin Prices, Sales 2007-08-29 23:54 (New York) By Leony Aurora Aug. 30 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesia's PT Timah, the world's second-biggest tin miner and refiner, said profit in the second quarter soared 35 times as it sold more of the metal at higher prices. Net income in the three months to June 30 jumped to 466.5 billion rupiah ($49.6 million), or 927 rupiah a share, from 13.2 billion rupiah, or 26 rupiah, last year, the company said in a statement to the Jakarta Stock Exchange today. Sales surged to 2.22 trillion rupiah from 920 billion rupiah. --Editor: Lloyd-Smith
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Analisa DE : Besok hijau............
waduh pak DE pake ilmu apa nih ? dhukunisme ? kok bisa tau ya ?? jangan2 the real bozz ini pak DE. hahahaahaha.. - Original Message - From: Dean Earwicker To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:49 PM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Analisa DE : Besok hijau Candle hari ini nyaris sesuai perhitungan. Apakah akan berlanjut besok? Regards, DE image002.gif
Hal: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] bung Bandar kecil
bung bandar... sy ketinggalan lagi untk yg ke dua kalinya,,, saat terima posting sudah auto-reject.. kayaknya e-mailnya telat masuk nih.. sedih juga siii.. mungkin belum hokky ya? :| btw,, xie-xie dah balas postinganku + kasih bayangan. - Pesan Asli Dari: bandar kecil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 30 Agustus, 2007 3:58:42 Topik: Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] bung Bandar kecil MIRA yg dulu pernah hamil bareng META. mbrojolnya baru sekarang. denger2 sih katanya blue bird yg mau ambil (backdoor listing). Kalo mau beli sekarang . ya agak2 judi gitu. karena MoUnya belum diteken. katanya sih right issue di 250. Nah kalo bener hal itu masih on, dan kalau besok nggak DISUSPEND ama BEJ, MIRA bakalan at least ke 270an. tapi kalo nggak jadi (kemungkinannya kecil). ya take arisk. untuk harga sekarang udah JUDI boz. Be careful. bobby gosal bobby_gosal@ yahoo.co. id wrote: weleh-weleh, bung bandar, MIRA dah terbang nih gimana dong... telat baca postingnya.. . masi bisa masuk ga??? Btw, thanks sekali lg buat posting POLY pertamakali, sy beli dan cuan...masi ingat sampai skrg.. arigato, xie-xie, thanks, matur suwun, terimakasih. .. Memo: saham apalagi nih?? - Pesan Asli Dari: bandar kecil bandarkecil@ yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Kamis, 30 Agustus, 2007 11:25:08 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: WATCHOUT - KIJA pak James, kapan paling lambat 500 nya ? atau 300 aja deh, kira2 kapan. soalnya kayaknya nih sahamnya p' mu'min, biasanya bolot banget dah. bisa lama. kayak panin group. kalo lagi naik, emang bisa kenceng, tapi kalo lagi diiemin bisa lama juga tuh. mendingan MIRA aja deh, yg jelas, katanya mau right issue di 250. ada yg mau back door listing denger2 sih perusahaannya TS. jadi paling nggak dalam waktu deket bisa ditarik ampe 270an. Gimana boz www.titan [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.tw wrote: Pak James kasih sinyal nih ??? : tapi kalo saya msh maen di banking dan farmasi Goodluck pak. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, James Arifin james.arifin@ ... wrote: denger2 KIJA katanya mau ke 500 ... heheh Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answers Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! http://id.yahoo.com/
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi
Thanks Pa HM, Saya sih udah tinggal sedikit sekali modal 12.900, tapi sayang juga kalo memang pasti mau turun, lebih baik sell dulu untuk buy balik dibawah. Masalahnya, sering2 kalo saya sell biasanya harga malah balik naik, karena sisa udah sedikit sekali, maka akan saya coba sell dulu besok, nyoba2 gamble deh, hehehe. Happy Trading, SB From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Halim Mintareja Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 18:12 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3642 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! image001.gifimage002.gif
RE: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS
Wah pusing deh, udah tinggal sedikit mah simpan aja dah, kalo turun mendingan buy lagi tambahan buat average daripada bimbang, thanks for all the informations sekalipun membingungkan, tapi lumayanlah daripada ga ada info sama sekali, hehehe... From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Arifin Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 20:38 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS EPS per Q2 2007 = 1500an, PER 5x maka harga wajar TINS = 7500 tapi itu kalau TINS nggak produksi apa2 selama 2H 2007. Bila info Hmin dianggap benar dimana output 2H 2007 = output 2Q 2007 maka Q1 2007 EPS=624 ~ 650 maka EPS Q2 2007 = 850. Estimate 07 FY EPS = 650+850+850 = 2350 (worse case). EPS 5x maka TINS price = 12250 artinya harga sekarang sudah price in. Artinya ini hitung hitungan terjelek, tapi apa benar performance 2H 2007 sangat jelek sehingga kapasitas produksi per bulan cuma 1/6 dari produksi Q2 2007? Apakah inventory sudah diperhitungkan. Bisa saja export turun tapi produksi tetap dan sisanya masuk inventory. Just check what is the output in July and August then we know who is trying to fool who On 8/30/07, Sutikno Tikno [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:gempurleo%40yahoo.co.id wrote: Jangan percaya pak, gak jelas itu biasanya mo buy dulu kasus tmpi sebar sms kemana-mana gak blh sell belakangan ketahuan dia punya seabrek dan ngaku loss Sory - Pesan Asli Dari: Glenn Garibaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:glen.garibaldi%40gmail.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 30 Agustus, 2007 1:57:00 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL !! TINS Hehehe... Rp.5000 ya mas? Sampeyan gatel kalo nggak posting ya mas? Posting yang nggak jelas... Hehehe... 2007/8/30, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] com: SELL TINS Target berikutnya ke bawah Rp.10.000,- Salam JACK Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answers No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3642 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! image001.gifimage002.gif
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi
C7 Pa DE, will try to gamble and sell tomorrow till lowest 12.000 Happy Cuan Trading, SB From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 18:44 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi Ambil jalan tengah aja pak, 12500. heheheh. Regards, DE From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sbudianaY Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:40 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi Importance: High Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.12/979 - Release Date: 8/29/2007 8:21 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3642 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! image001.gifimage002.gif
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi
Thanks Pa Sanjaya, ini baru jelas, maklum kalo hal begitu masih o-on, hehehe From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanjaya Huang Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 18:20 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi Maksudnya Jack itu harga saham TINS turun ke hrg Rp.10.000,- Sementara Herman itu mengenai harga komoditas timah yang nembus USD.15.000 lagi. Jadi beda dong, antara jenisnya (hrg saham hrg komoditas) dan mata uangnya (USD Rp.) Salam, Sanjaya - Original Message From: sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:39:57 PM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! _ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48224/*http:/sims.yahoo.com/ Stories at Yahoo! Games. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3642 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! image001.gifimage002.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] WATCHOUT
he..he. masalahnya akhir-akhir ini banyak anak baru lulus SMA yang ngaku bisa jadi SOPIR anak-anak seperti itu bisa membawa banyak MASAlah. Sampai-sampai penumpang banyak yang babak belur ngikutin dia. Belum lagi urusan dengan supir METRO MINI yang sering todong penumpang di tengah jalan... terus berurusan dengan copet yang semakin banyak berkeliaran he.he... Ada baiknya yang belum berpengalaman tidur dulu. setidaknya sampai jalan tol selesai dibangun 3-5 minggu lagi On 8/30/07, oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sekarang siapin MENTAL LAGI (and dll...) buat PENTUNGAN minggu DEPAN Kalau sudah REBOUND jangan lupa BERSIH2... Sambil nunggu PENTUNGAN BERIKUTNYA Pesennya: Mengingat banyaknya korban TABRAK LARI di BEJ, buat para trader yg sedang EMOSIonal ama ada gangguan pada kesehatan lebih baik TIDAK BERKELIARAN di jalanan. Kalau masih mau berpegang TA dan FA dalam kondisi ZIG ZAG begini SILAHKAN... Tapi tips dari saya: Duduklah di BELAKANG (persis) SOPIR, karena menurut STATISTIK dari setiap kecelakaan lebih banyak yg SELAMAT adalah SOPIRnya BUKAN PENUMPANGnya. Walaupun yg duduk di SEBELAH sopirnya. Apalagi kalau berurusan dg sopir METROMINI Bagaimanapun ini hanya TIPS untuk MENGURANGI resiko kecelakaan. Karena bulan depan masih ada PENTUNGAN2 LAINNYA yg HARUS kita terima. Sekali lagi ini semua CUMAN PREDIKSI Good Luck! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Tin tembus 15rb lagi
target tetep 24 rebu pas --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C7 Pa DE, will try to gamble and sell tomorrow till lowest 12.000 Happy Cuan Trading, SB From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 18:44 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi Ambil jalan tengah aja pak, 12500. heheheh. Regards, DE From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sbudianaY Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:40 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi Importance: High Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.12/979 - Release Date: 8/29/2007 8:21 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3642 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Tin tembus 15rb ...indonesia akan menrapakan KOUTA utk TIN...
KELIHATANNYA, PEMERINTAH AKAN MENGIRING HARGA TIN INTERNATIONAL KELEVEL 20.000AN DISHANGHAI MARKET AJA SEKARANG HARGA SPOT TIMAH UDAH KELEVEL 20RBAN...KARNA SUPLY YANG BERKURANG BANYAK DARI YUNAN TIN... SEMALAM DI LME AJA UDAH BALIK LAGI KE ATAS 15.000AN COBA CEK AJA www.semprametals.com COBA AJA LIAT ADA YANG BERANI GAK NGESORT TINS KELEVEL 11.000AN LAGI http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? pid=20601012sid=aIPYdOagQ6a8refer=commodities --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ada baiknya diposting aja karena kalau salah quote gimana? Jadi ingat BI salah tulis prospektus RI UNSP, siapa tahu salah tulis lagi atau salah quote On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya dapat dari RTI.. besok pasti masuk koran On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maksudnya output 2Q 2007 = 2H2007 artinya 3Q 2007 kurang lebih output 1/2 Q2 2007, ada yg bisa cek berapa pengiriman TINS di bulan Juli dan Agustus 2007? kalau memang kurang dari 1/3 output Q2 2007 maka klaim bung Hmin betul. Ada yg berkenan mengecek kebenarannya ... biar nggak ada yang ngomong tanpa dasar On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tin tembus 15rb lagi
PE 10.. yang bener aja... ha.ha... On 8/31/07, Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: target tetep 24 rebu pas --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C7 Pa DE, will try to gamble and sell tomorrow till lowest 12.000 Happy Cuan Trading, SB From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 18:44 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi Ambil jalan tengah aja pak, 12500. heheheh. Regards, DE From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sbudianaY Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:40 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi Importance: High Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.12/979 - Release Date: 8/29/2007 8:21 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3642 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tin tembus 15rb ...indonesia akan menrapakan KOUTA utk TIN...
he.he.. tul kan... langsung ada bantahan dari posting saya.. :D artinya bandar masih nyangkut berat. modal bandar sekitar 10.000-11.000.. so kalau nge short jangan di area itu.. danger... kala mau nge-short tunggu area 12.000... bandar ngak mungkin berani tembusin teritory 13.000.. kecuali mau investor retail cabut.. kalau mau lihat outlook timah.. gampang aja... check aja stock timah di LME secara berkala. Kalau bandar bener-bener punya duit dan bukan bandar kere.. pasti sanggup kuras stock TIN di LME yang naik terus tiap minggu.. bukan cuman bayar analis yang punya embel-embel asing buat bikin proyeksi harga timah.. sudah ngak laku sekarang. We want price action... not research... langkah awal.. bandar musti berani kuras stock timah di lme.. untuk buktikan dia bukan bandar kere mana ada sih bandar berkelas yang takut diguyur sampai bid musti dicabutin ha.ha he,..he... btw.. kalau tersinggung.. jangan bom email saya ya :D On 8/31/07, laven_28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KELIHATANNYA, PEMERINTAH AKAN MENGIRING HARGA TIN INTERNATIONAL KELEVEL 20.000AN DISHANGHAI MARKET AJA SEKARANG HARGA SPOT TIMAH UDAH KELEVEL 20RBAN...KARNA SUPLY YANG BERKURANG BANYAK DARI YUNAN TIN... SEMALAM DI LME AJA UDAH BALIK LAGI KE ATAS 15.000AN COBA CEK AJA www.semprametals.com COBA AJA LIAT ADA YANG BERANI GAK NGESORT TINS KELEVEL 11.000AN LAGI http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? pid=20601012sid=aIPYdOagQ6a8refer=commodities --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ada baiknya diposting aja karena kalau salah quote gimana? Jadi ingat BI salah tulis prospektus RI UNSP, siapa tahu salah tulis lagi atau salah quote On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya dapat dari RTI.. besok pasti masuk koran On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maksudnya output 2Q 2007 = 2H2007 artinya 3Q 2007 kurang lebih output 1/2 Q2 2007, ada yg bisa cek berapa pengiriman TINS di bulan Juli dan Agustus 2007? kalau memang kurang dari 1/3 output Q2 2007 maka klaim bung Hmin betul. Ada yg berkenan mengecek kebenarannya ... biar nggak ada yang ngomong tanpa dasar On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tin tembus 15rb ...indonesia akan menrapakan KOUTA utk TIN...
Iya, di TV Bloomberg ada News Pem akan memberlakukan quotas utk mengatur harga2 spot internasional - spt rencana semula taon yl + ada rencana SS dlm waktu2 yg mendekat ini Happy chuan, Aria KELIHATANNYA, PEMERINTAH AKAN MENGIRING HARGA TIN INTERNATIONAL KELEVEL 20.000AN DISHANGHAI MARKET AJA SEKARANG HARGA SPOT TIMAH UDAH KELEVEL 20RBAN...KARNA SUPLY YANG BERKURANG BANYAK DARI YUNAN TIN... SEMALAM DI LME AJA UDAH BALIK LAGI KE ATAS 15.000AN COBA CEK AJA www.semprametals.com COBA AJA LIAT ADA YANG BERANI GAK NGESORT TINS KELEVEL 11.000AN LAGI http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? pid=20601012sid=aIPYdOagQ6a8refer=commodities --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ada baiknya diposting aja karena kalau salah quote gimana? Jadi ingat BI salah tulis prospektus RI UNSP, siapa tahu salah tulis lagi atau salah quote On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya dapat dari RTI.. besok pasti masuk koran On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maksudnya output 2Q 2007 = 2H2007 artinya 3Q 2007 kurang lebih output 1/2 Q2 2007, ada yg bisa cek berapa pengiriman TINS di bulan Juli dan Agustus 2007? kalau memang kurang dari 1/3 output Q2 2007 maka klaim bung Hmin betul. Ada yg berkenan mengecek kebenarannya ... biar nggak ada yang ngomong tanpa dasar On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS- H1 Naik 35x? EPS nya jadi berapa ya??
BENAR SEKALI BUNG ANGELO MENURUT SAYA (JUST OPINION)...SAHAM TINS INI MEMANG ADA YANG NAHAN... KENAPA DIA MENAHAN (SANG BANDAR), KARNA SAHAM YANG ADA DI DIA (BANDAR) CUMAN SEDIKIT...SAHAM TINS KEBANYAKAN ADA DI RETAILER... SEKARANG DENGAN INFORMASI YANG UDAH TERANG BENDERANG (LABA UDAH KETAHUAN, HPP GAK NAEK, HARGA TIN INTERNATIONAL STABIL, MALAH KECENDERUNGAN NAIK TRUSS)APAKAH MASIH ADA YANG BISA DIJADIKAN ALASAN UTK TURUNIN HARGA ??? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Angelo Ferdinand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak James, Kalau melihat EPS yang cukup menjanjikan (dan itu adalah fakta audit yang gak mungkin bisa disembunyikan) dan potensi dividen yang bisa mencapai 50% dari EPS, apakah sang bandar (yang mencoba menahan laju kenaikan saham ini) masih mampu melawan animo investor? Paling tidak menjelang pembagian dividen? Kalau tidak mampu, berarti investor yang sudah terlanjur kumpulin TINS sejak 14ribuan bertahan aja ya jangan CL, atau nyerah aja? Thanks atas pencerahannya Angelo On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyway EPS '07 untuk TINS nggak bisa disetahunin karena produksi 2H akan diturunkan untuk mencapai target produksi 48000 ton. Kalau harga LME TIN di atas 15000 maka TINS baru bersedia jualan lebih dari 48000. Saya dukung 100% strategi TINS ini On 8/30/07, ihsg 88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ihsg88%40gmail.com wrote: Eps 07 annualise jadi 3100. Atau Per 3,9x On 8/30/07, Angelo Ferdinand [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelofc% 40gmail.com wrote: Timah Second-Quarter Profit Surges on Higher Tin Prices, Sales 2007-08-29 23:54 (New York) By Leony Aurora Aug. 30 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesia's PT Timah, the world's second-biggest tin miner and refiner, said profit in the second quarter soared 35 times as it sold more of the metal at higher prices. Net income in the three months to June 30 jumped to 466.5 billion rupiah ($49.6 million), or 927 rupiah a share, from 13.2 billion rupiah, or 26 rupiah, last year, the company said in a statement to the Jakarta Stock Exchange today. Sales surged to 2.22 trillion rupiah from 920 billion rupiah. --Editor: Lloyd-Smith
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tin tembus 15rb lagi
*TINS sudah overbought, sebaiknya konsolidasi dulu sebelum menuju ke 24000 atau ke berapalah suka2 Anda.* *Karena TINS sdh seminggu ijo terus, sebaiknya turun dulu biar ga ada yang sirik.* *Koreksi yang sehat diperlukan agar TINS bisa menuju target berikutnya.* *Ada pepatah mengatakan: Mundur 3 langkah untuk maju 100 langkah* *Tidak ada yang perlu dikhawatirkan karena TINS perusahaan bagus, harga komoditasnya juga bagus, apalagi ada rencana stock split taon ini. So... enjoy your trading or investment on this stock :-)* ** ** *Regards,* *HSK * On 8/31/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PE 10.. yang bener aja... ha.ha... On 8/31/07, Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: target tetep 24 rebu pas --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com , sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C7 Pa DE, will try to gamble and sell tomorrow till lowest 12.000 Happy Cuan Trading, SB From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 18:44 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi Ambil jalan tengah aja pak, 12500. heheheh. Regards, DE From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sbudianaY Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:40 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi Importance: High Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.12/979 - Release Date: 8/29/2007 8:21 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3642 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] REGIONAL + SI INDEKS...
Sptnya Regional (incl.si Indeks) mulai unjuk-gigi - berupaya2 utk terlepas/terbebas dr himpitan di US itu (yg sebekulnya merupakan faktor eksternal) Happy chuan, Aria
Re: [obrolan-bandar] REGIONAL + SI INDEKS...
DJIA minus,tapi bursa Asia dibuka Ijo Mantaaap. - Original Message - From: Aria Bela Nusa To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:17 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] REGIONAL + SI INDEKS... Sptnya Regional (incl.si Indeks) mulai unjuk-gigi - berupaya2 utk terlepas/terbebas dr himpitan di US itu (yg sebekulnya merupakan faktor eksternal) Happy chuan, Aria
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS- H1 Naik 35x? EPS nya jadi berapa ya??
output 2H turun stok TIN di LME terus naik overhead supply saham TINS di 13.000-an.. On 8/31/07, laven_28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BENAR SEKALI BUNG ANGELO MENURUT SAYA (JUST OPINION)...SAHAM TINS INI MEMANG ADA YANG NAHAN... KENAPA DIA MENAHAN (SANG BANDAR), KARNA SAHAM YANG ADA DI DIA (BANDAR) CUMAN SEDIKIT...SAHAM TINS KEBANYAKAN ADA DI RETAILER... SEKARANG DENGAN INFORMASI YANG UDAH TERANG BENDERANG (LABA UDAH KETAHUAN, HPP GAK NAEK, HARGA TIN INTERNATIONAL STABIL, MALAH KECENDERUNGAN NAIK TRUSS)APAKAH MASIH ADA YANG BISA DIJADIKAN ALASAN UTK TURUNIN HARGA ??? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Angelo Ferdinand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak James, Kalau melihat EPS yang cukup menjanjikan (dan itu adalah fakta audit yang gak mungkin bisa disembunyikan) dan potensi dividen yang bisa mencapai 50% dari EPS, apakah sang bandar (yang mencoba menahan laju kenaikan saham ini) masih mampu melawan animo investor? Paling tidak menjelang pembagian dividen? Kalau tidak mampu, berarti investor yang sudah terlanjur kumpulin TINS sejak 14ribuan bertahan aja ya jangan CL, atau nyerah aja? Thanks atas pencerahannya Angelo On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyway EPS '07 untuk TINS nggak bisa disetahunin karena produksi 2H akan diturunkan untuk mencapai target produksi 48000 ton. Kalau harga LME TIN di atas 15000 maka TINS baru bersedia jualan lebih dari 48000. Saya dukung 100% strategi TINS ini On 8/30/07, ihsg 88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ihsg88%40gmail.com wrote: Eps 07 annualise jadi 3100. Atau Per 3,9x On 8/30/07, Angelo Ferdinand [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelofc% 40gmail.com wrote: Timah Second-Quarter Profit Surges on Higher Tin Prices, Sales 2007-08-29 23:54 (New York) By Leony Aurora Aug. 30 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesia's PT Timah, the world's second-biggest tin miner and refiner, said profit in the second quarter soared 35 times as it sold more of the metal at higher prices. Net income in the three months to June 30 jumped to 466.5 billion rupiah ($49.6 million), or 927 rupiah a share, from 13.2 billion rupiah, or 26 rupiah, last year, the company said in a statement to the Jakarta Stock Exchange today. Sales surged to 2.22 trillion rupiah from 920 billion rupiah. --Editor: Lloyd-Smith + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] REGIONAL + SI INDEKS...
*JANGAN SENANG DULU, AMERIKA MINUS, REGIONAL IJO, TAPI JSX BELUM TENTU IJO, PALING IJO DIKIT TERUS MERAH LAGI. KEMARIN AJA DOW REGIONAL IJO BEGITU BANYAK, INDO TETAP MEMBLE TUH, YANG MAIN CUMAN SMALL MONEY AJA, BIG PLAYERS CUMA DUDUK MANIS SAMBIL BUANG-BUANG BARANG. BAGI NEW COMERS, HATI-HATI AJA, SAVE TRADING, DON'T LOSE YOUR MONEY.* *APALAGI INI HARI JUMAT. SELALU ADA THE FRIDAY SINDROM. GOODLUCK!* ** ** *REGARDS,* *HSK * On 8/31/07, Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DJIA minus,tapi bursa Asia dibuka Ijo Mantaaap. - Original Message - *From:* Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2007 8:17 AM *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] REGIONAL + SI INDEKS... Sptnya Regional (incl.si Indeks) mulai unjuk-gigi - berupaya2 utk terlepas/terbebas dr himpitan di US itu (yg sebekulnya merupakan faktor eksternal) Happy chuan, Aria
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi
Setuju P. James, kutipan beritanya cukup memberikan gambaran yang jelas kalau tidak diinterpretasikan sepotong-potong. James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rekomendasi sih jangan baca judul doang On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DJ PT Timah's 1H Profit Up On Tin Price; 2H Output May Be Lower JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Indonesia's PT Timah Tbk (TINS.JK), the world's biggest integrated tin producer, saw its net profit surge by more than 30% in the first half of this year, due to the company's higher production and soaring tin prices, a company official said Thursday. But overproduction of refined tin in the first half may result in the company decreasing output in the second half, said Prasetyo Saksono, a spokesman for PT Timah. The company reported a net profit of IDR780.8 billion in the first six months of 2007, up from IDR23.9 billion during the same period last year, said Saksono. PT Timah produced 32,567 metric tons of refined tin in the first half, up 54% from 21,134 tons a year earlier due to increasing tin ore supplies from land mining. But Saksono said the company's refined tin output target of 48,000 tons for 2007 means it might have to cut output in the second half. We should only be producing around 16,000 tons of refined tin in the second half of this year. But we may increase or decrease output based on tin prices in the international market. Saksono said the company doesn't have a restriction on how much refined tin it can export, and price valuation of tin is a prime consideration of how much tin the company mines and exports each year. He declined to state the price range for tin that would pressure the company to increase or decrease its output. The company recently halted spot sales of tin, reportedly because the price of tin on the London Metal Exchange was too low. Media reports said the company would resume spot sales only if the price went back above $15,000 a ton - a level last seen earlier this month. Saksono said the company will continue to monitor tin prices before resuming such sales. Spot tin sales constitute 20%-30% of the company's total sales. Contracted sales make up the remaining bulk of its sales. We have a greater commitment to our long-term buyers, and spot sales will always take second place to their needs, said Saksono, when asked if tin meant for spot sales will be made available to the company's contracted buyers. He said the company also increased its refined tin sales by 60% in the first half of this year, selling 30,456 tons compared with 19,038 tons in the first half of last year. PT Timah sold its tin at an average price of $13,459/ton in the first half, a 66% increase from $8,120/ton during the same period last year. The company reported sales revenue of IDR4.07 trillion for the first half of 2007, up from IDR1.73 trillion during the same period a year ago. Indonesia is the world's second-largest tin producer after China. -By Fawziah Selamat, Dow Jones Newswires; 62 21 3983 1277; [EMAIL PROTECTED] (END) Dow Jones Newswires August 30, 2007 05:01 ET (09:01 GMT) Copyright (c) 2007 Dow Jones Company, Inc.- - 05 01 AM EDT 08-30-07 On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya dapat dari RTI.. besok pasti masuk koran On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maksudnya output 2Q 2007 = 2H2007 artinya 3Q 2007 kurang lebih output 1/2 Q2 2007, ada yg bisa cek berapa pengiriman TINS di bulan Juli dan Agustus 2007? kalau memang kurang dari 1/3 output Q2 2007 maka klaim bung Hmin betul. Ada yg berkenan mengecek kebenarannya ... biar nggak ada yang ngomong tanpa dasar On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for
[obrolan-bandar] Re: my perception on KARK
Guys, komisaris KARK sapa ya ? Thanks --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pieros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wah bungkarena bete tadi pagi saya lepas di harga modal nih 360 utk KARK, skrg mau ambil lagi udah rada males...apakah masih bagus ya utk ambil KARK lagi nih? - Original Message - From: exindo_trade To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: my perception on KARK Kalo mengenai masalah take profit n ambil bawah lagi itu murni strategi, keputusan dan resiko masing-masing. Kadang bisa betul, kadang bisa salah. Kalo emang lagi yakin ditumpangi ama hoki , ya apapun bole dicoba lah. Yg pasti,(tadi ada yg tanya TPnya KARK, sekalian aja di respon) kalo TPnya sih gak berubah ato minimal sampe sekarang belum ada pemberitahuan ralat :D. Dari dulu ya tetep di 800-1000. Kapannya ya saya juga gak tahu. Jadi apa gak, ya saya juga gak tahu. Ok lah, Go KARK! Btw, Pak Bandar kecil, punya info baru apa soal KARK, POLY dll. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bandar kecil bandarkecil@ wrote: Nggak usah nunggu Nopember, baru 1 hari udah cuan gede dong. hahahahahahahahahha. mantap. NO GUTS NO GLORY, I believe that is very true. Selamat atas putusan anda. cepet jual, take profit dulu. ntar ambil lagi dibawah. nothing2manything nothing2manything@ wrote: KUMPULIN ah. Sapa tau banyak yang jual diskon heheheh Semoga November melejit lage... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jin Kazama frendychandra@ wrote: jual dulu aja pak..gw dah cut yg beli di 560...hhahahaha - Original Message - From: nothing2manything To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: my perception KARK koq jadi lemes banget ya ? Waktu 500-700 cepet banget naeknya, sekrang susah banget di prediksikan - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Analisa DE : Besok hijau............
Pak DEmau doong softwarenya...online apa off line mode? kalo online kan asik juga...bisa langsung forcast for next day. Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Candle hari ini nyaris sesuai perhitungan. Apakah akan berlanjut besok? Regards, DE - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. image/gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS- H1 Naik 35x? EPS nya jadi berapa ya??
Kalau ada 2 gajah berkelahi, tapi fundamental bagus. Cocok untuk para sideways mania. Naik jual dulu, turun beli lagi. Lebih gampang, tidak takut hilang barang. Hehehehe. On 8/31/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: output 2H turun
[obrolan-bandar] BCIC volume kok besar yah?
kalau dperhatikan, BCIC kok volume + freq jual-beli besar yach? ada yang tau knapa?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Asian Stocks Decline on Subprime Concern; DBS Group, Banks Fall
Iya bener.dah baca serius2 jg! On 8/28/07, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau kita teliti, dibawah nggak ada berita tentang Indonesia. :/ Regards, DE -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HS Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:36 PM To: OB Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Asian Stocks Decline on Subprime Concern; DBS Group, Banks Fall Asian Stocks Decline on Subprime Concern; DBS Group, Banks Fall By Darren Boey and Chua Kong Ho Aug. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Asian stocks fell after Singapore's DBS Group Holdings Ltd. said it has more collateralized debt obligations than previously disclosed. DBS, Southeast Asia's largest lender, dropped to its lowest in more than a week. National Australia Bank Ltd. declined after the central bank said the country's money market remains ``under pressure'' as losses related to U.S. subprime mortgages discouraged lending. ``CDOs have become a taboo term for investors, regardless of what the underlying securities are,'' said Leslie Phang, who oversees $1 billion at Commonwealth Private Bank in Singapore. ``There's uncertainty'' as to whether more losses will emerge. China Life Insurance Co. and Foster's Group Ltd. advanced after reporting higher profits. Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. led gains among South Korean shipbuilders after STX Shipbuilding Co. said it won a contract to build bulk carriers. The Morgan Stanley Capital International Asia-Pacific Index fell 0.4 percent to 149.33 at 1:50 p.m. in Tokyo. Japan's Nikkei 225 Stock Average lost 0.6 percent to 16,209.40. All other regional markets retreated except New Zealand and the Philippines. The U.S. Standard Poor's 500 Index lost 0.9 percent yesterday after a National Association of Realtors report showed that a glut of unsold homes in the world's largest economy rose to the most since October 1991. Stocks also fell as Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. analysts said reduced demand for mortgage securities may hurt earnings at Countrywide Financial Corp. CDOs, Subprime DBS declined 2.5 percent to S$19.90 in Singapore, set for its lowest close since Aug. 17. The lender has S$2.4 billion ($1.6 billion) of CDOs, including S$1.1 billion in Red Orchid Secured Assets, which it didn't report earlier, it said in a statement to Singapore's exchange late yesterday. Losses on investments related to U.S. subprime, or higher risk, mortgages sparked a rout last month that erased more than $5.5 trillion of stock-market value worldwide. The amount with ``some exposure'' to the U.S. subprime mortgage market remains unchanged at $188 million of investments, or 12 percent of its CDO holdings, the bank said today. The CDO and U.S. subprime-related problems ``will likely be a slow-motion, long-tailed headwind with worse-than-expected ultimate losses,'' analysts at Goldman, Sachs Co. wrote in a report. They cut DBS to ``neutral'' from ``buy.'' National Australia, the country's largest bank, declined 0.9 percent to A$39.83. Commonwealth Bank of Australia, the second- biggest, lost 0.7 percent to A$54.79. St.George Bank Ltd., the fifth-largest, dropped 1.7 percent to A$34.40. `Nervousness' Australia's money market remains ``under pressure'' and the central bank will intervene if needed to stabilize the cost of credit amid U.S. subprime losses, Reserve Bank Deputy Governor Ric Battellino said today. ``Yields on asset-backed commercial paper as yet have not fallen, indicating a continuing high degree of nervousness,'' Battellino told a retail services forum in Sydney. China Life, the world's biggest insurer by market value, climbed 6.1 percent to a record HK$37.30 in Hong Kong. The company said yesterday after the market closed that first-half profit more than doubled to 23.3 billion yuan ($3.1 billion) on returns from stock-market investments. Profit beat the 16.6 billion yuan average estimate of analysts in a Bloomberg survey. Foster's, Australia's largest brewer, climbed 6.3 percent to A$6.38, the most since August last year. The company boosted second-half profit 16 percent after increasing sales of more profitable beers and hiking prices for wine. Earnings before one- time items rose to A$325.4 million ($269 million) in the six months to June 30, from A$280.7 million a year earlier. Shipbuilders Asustek Computer Inc., Taiwan's largest maker of boards that connect computer components, gained 4 percent to NT$92.60. Asustek said profit in the first six months rose 91 percent from a year earlier to NT$13.58 billion ($411 million). ``Companies with solid scorecards are favored by investors,'' said Vickie Hsieh, who helps oversee $1.4 billion at President Investment Trust Corp. in Taipei. ``Ultimately they will make decisions based on corporate profitability.'' Hyundai Heavy, the world's biggest shipbuilder, added 4.8 percent to 363,500 won in South Korea.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS- H1 Naik 35x? EPS nya jadi berapa ya??
SEBAGAI TAMBAHAN INFORMASI, JUMLAH SAHAM TINS YANG ADA DIPASAR ITU SEDIKIT JUMLAHNYA, SEDANGKAN DEMAND LEBIH BESAR DARI SUPPLY. APALAGI SECARA FUNDAMENTAL, HARGA KOMODITAS TIMAH AKAN TETAP TINGGI (CUAN GEDE BANGET), BAHKAN MUNGKIN BISA NAIK LEBIH TINGGI LAGI. APA YANG AKAN TERJADI? HARGA SAHAM TINS AKAN LARI KENCANG BUNG!!! laven_28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BENAR SEKALI BUNG ANGELO MENURUT SAYA (JUST OPINION)...SAHAM TINS INI MEMANG ADA YANG NAHAN... KENAPA DIA MENAHAN (SANG BANDAR), KARNA SAHAM YANG ADA DI DIA (BANDAR) CUMAN SEDIKIT...SAHAM TINS KEBANYAKAN ADA DI RETAILER... SEKARANG DENGAN INFORMASI YANG UDAH TERANG BENDERANG (LABA UDAH KETAHUAN, HPP GAK NAEK, HARGA TIN INTERNATIONAL STABIL, MALAH KECENDERUNGAN NAIK TRUSS)APAKAH MASIH ADA YANG BISA DIJADIKAN ALASAN UTK TURUNIN HARGA ??? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Angelo Ferdinand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak James, Kalau melihat EPS yang cukup menjanjikan (dan itu adalah fakta audit yang gak mungkin bisa disembunyikan) dan potensi dividen yang bisa mencapai 50% dari EPS, apakah sang bandar (yang mencoba menahan laju kenaikan saham ini) masih mampu melawan animo investor? Paling tidak menjelang pembagian dividen? Kalau tidak mampu, berarti investor yang sudah terlanjur kumpulin TINS sejak 14ribuan bertahan aja ya jangan CL, atau nyerah aja? Thanks atas pencerahannya Angelo On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyway EPS '07 untuk TINS nggak bisa disetahunin karena produksi 2H akan diturunkan untuk mencapai target produksi 48000 ton. Kalau harga LME TIN di atas 15000 maka TINS baru bersedia jualan lebih dari 48000. Saya dukung 100% strategi TINS ini On 8/30/07, ihsg 88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ihsg88%40gmail.com wrote: Eps 07 annualise jadi 3100. Atau Per 3,9x On 8/30/07, Angelo Ferdinand [EMAIL PROTECTED] angelofc% 40gmail.com wrote: Timah Second-Quarter Profit Surges on Higher Tin Prices, Sales 2007-08-29 23:54 (New York) By Leony Aurora Aug. 30 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesia's PT Timah, the world's second-biggest tin miner and refiner, said profit in the second quarter soared 35 times as it sold more of the metal at higher prices. Net income in the three months to June 30 jumped to 466.5 billion rupiah ($49.6 million), or 927 rupiah a share, from 13.2 billion rupiah, or 26 rupiah, last year, the company said in a statement to the Jakarta Stock Exchange today. Sales surged to 2.22 trillion rupiah from 920 billion rupiah. --Editor: Lloyd-Smith - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tin tembus 15rb lagi (SN 3M $15200 $15500)
SN 3M $15200 $15500NI 3M $28300 $28500 Hong San Kiong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:TINS sudah overbought, sebaiknya konsolidasi dulu sebelum menuju ke 24000 atau ke berapalah suka2 Anda. Karena TINS sdh seminggu ijo terus, sebaiknya turun dulu biar ga ada yang sirik. Koreksi yang sehat diperlukan agar TINS bisa menuju target berikutnya. Ada pepatah mengatakan: Mundur 3 langkah untuk maju 100 langkah Tidak ada yang perlu dikhawatirkan karena TINS perusahaan bagus, harga komoditasnya juga bagus, apalagi ada rencana stock split taon ini. So... enjoy your trading or investment on this stock :-) Regards, HSK On 8/31/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PE 10.. yang bener aja... ha.ha... On 8/31/07, Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: target tetep 24 rebu pas --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com , sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C7 Pa DE, will try to gamble and sell tomorrow till lowest 12.000 Happy Cuan Trading, SB From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 18:44 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi Ambil jalan tengah aja pak, 12500. heheheh. Regards, DE From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sbudianaY Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:40 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi Importance: High Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.12/979 - Release Date: 8/29/2007 8:21 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 _ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3642 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len for free now! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tin tembus 15rb ...indonesia akan menrapakan KOUTA utk TIN...
APALAGI ADA RENCANA UNTUK STOCK SPLIT DI AKHIR TAHUN. BUY TINS!!! TARGET PRICE RP 24.000,- DI AKHIR TAHUN 2007. laven_28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KELIHATANNYA, PEMERINTAH AKAN MENGIRING HARGA TIN INTERNATIONAL KELEVEL 20.000AN DISHANGHAI MARKET AJA SEKARANG HARGA SPOT TIMAH UDAH KELEVEL 20RBAN...KARNA SUPLY YANG BERKURANG BANYAK DARI YUNAN TIN... SEMALAM DI LME AJA UDAH BALIK LAGI KE ATAS 15.000AN COBA CEK AJA www.semprametals.com COBA AJA LIAT ADA YANG BERANI GAK NGESORT TINS KELEVEL 11.000AN LAGI http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? pid=20601012sid=aIPYdOagQ6a8refer=commodities --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ada baiknya diposting aja karena kalau salah quote gimana? Jadi ingat BI salah tulis prospektus RI UNSP, siapa tahu salah tulis lagi atau salah quote On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya dapat dari RTI.. besok pasti masuk koran On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maksudnya output 2Q 2007 = 2H2007 artinya 3Q 2007 kurang lebih output 1/2 Q2 2007, ada yg bisa cek berapa pengiriman TINS di bulan Juli dan Agustus 2007? kalau memang kurang dari 1/3 output Q2 2007 maka klaim bung Hmin betul. Ada yg berkenan mengecek kebenarannya ... biar nggak ada yang ngomong tanpa dasar On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more.
[obrolan-bandar] Iklan ngasal..
ini baca iklan di Kompas hari ini.. AWAS KRISMON KE-2, DOLLAR MELONJAK, HARGA SAHAM TIDAK STABIL BELI PROPERTI INVESTASI PALING AMAN MENGUNTUNGKAN SAAT INI (masak sih.. ? :)) salam ngesot
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Iklan ngasal..
itu mah karena jualan properti.. emang skr gampang ya jual properti ? makanya perlu pake jelek2 kan sektor lain dulu... lha kalo krismon, terjadi kerusuhan, rumah dibakarkan sama aja kekekeke... - Original Message - From: investor_ngesot To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Iklan ngasal.. ini baca iklan di Kompas hari ini.. AWAS KRISMON KE-2, DOLLAR MELONJAK, HARGA SAHAM TIDAK STABIL BELI PROPERTI INVESTASI PALING AMAN MENGUNTUNGKAN SAAT INI (masak sih.. ? :)) salam ngesot
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Iklan ngasal..
pengen ada developer yg short on cash.. trus lego asset.. dimana ya cari infonya..? :) salam ngesot --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jin Kazama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: itu mah karena jualan properti.. emang skr gampang ya jual properti ? makanya perlu pake jelek2 kan sektor lain dulu... lha kalo krismon, terjadi kerusuhan, rumah dibakarkan sama aja kekekeke... - Original Message - From: investor_ngesot To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Iklan ngasal.. ini baca iklan di Kompas hari ini.. AWAS KRISMON KE-2, DOLLAR MELONJAK, HARGA SAHAM TIDAK STABIL BELI PROPERTI INVESTASI PALING AMAN MENGUNTUNGKAN SAAT INI (masak sih.. ? :)) salam ngesot
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tin tembus 15rb ...indonesia akan menrapakan KOUTA utk TIN...
gw sebagai semut, cuma mau icip2 seperak 2 perak, ko :D naik 12 ribu jual, turun beli lagi...gitu aja ko repot :D On 8/31/07, Yuming Tjoa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: APALAGI ADA RENCANA UNTUK STOCK SPLIT DI AKHIR TAHUN. BUY TINS!!! TARGET PRICE RP 24.000,- DI AKHIR TAHUN 2007. *laven_28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: KELIHATANNYA, PEMERINTAH AKAN MENGIRING HARGA TIN INTERNATIONAL KELEVEL 20.000AN DISHANGHAI MARKET AJA SEKARANG HARGA SPOT TIMAH UDAH KELEVEL 20RBAN...KARNA SUPLY YANG BERKURANG BANYAK DARI YUNAN TIN... SEMALAM DI LME AJA UDAH BALIK LAGI KE ATAS 15.000AN COBA CEK AJA www.semprametals.com COBA AJA LIAT ADA YANG BERANI GAK NGESORT TINS KELEVEL 11.000AN LAGI http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? pid=20601012sid=aIPYdOagQ6a8refer=commodities --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ada baiknya diposting aja karena kalau salah quote gimana? Jadi ingat BI salah tulis prospektus RI UNSP, siapa tahu salah tulis lagi atau salah quote On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya dapat dari RTI.. besok pasti masuk koran On 8/30/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maksudnya output 2Q 2007 = 2H2007 artinya 3Q 2007 kurang lebih output 1/2 Q2 2007, ada yg bisa cek berapa pengiriman TINS di bulan Juli dan Agustus 2007? kalau memang kurang dari 1/3 output Q2 2007 maka klaim bung Hmin betul. Ada yg berkenan mengecek kebenarannya ... biar nggak ada yang ngomong tanpa dasar On 8/30/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sell pak SB.. sudah ngak ada power... bandar mau cabut output 2Q 07 bakalan sama dengan 2H07.. so outlook sudah jebol PE 5 saat harga komoditas di puncak.. .game over On 8/30/07, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wuahahaha, yang satu bilang turun 10.000 dan yang lain bilang 15.000, kacau balaulah, yang benar yang mana yah, binun aku, hehehe.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: 30 Agustus 2007 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] saham%40yahoogroups.com; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tin tembus 15rb lagi No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 28/08/2007 16:29 I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3634 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links -- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket:http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48253/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXICmail, news, photos more.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS- H1 Naik 35x? EPS nya jadi berapa ya??
Bener pak JA. Tapi kalo harga tin di LME tetap diatas 15.000, profit TINS tetep akan lebih tinggi walaupun target produksi diturunin. CMIIW. Cheers. TT --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyway EPS '07 untuk TINS nggak bisa disetahunin karena produksi 2H akan diturunkan untuk mencapai target produksi 48000 ton. Kalau harga LME TIN di atas 15000 maka TINS baru bersedia jualan lebih dari 48000. Saya dukung 100% strategi TINS ini On 8/30/07, ihsg 88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eps 07 annualise jadi 3100. Atau Per 3,9x On 8/30/07, Angelo Ferdinand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timah Second-Quarter Profit Surges on Higher Tin Prices, Sales 2007-08-29 23:54 (New York) By Leony Aurora Aug. 30 (Bloomberg) -- Indonesia's PT Timah, the world's second-biggest tin miner and refiner, said profit in the second quarter soared 35 times as it sold more of the metal at higher prices. Net income in the three months to June 30 jumped to 466.5 billion rupiah ($49.6 million), or 927 rupiah a share, from 13.2 billion rupiah, or 26 rupiah, last year, the company said in a statement to the Jakarta Stock Exchange today. Sales surged to 2.22 trillion rupiah from 920 billion rupiah. --Editor: Lloyd-Smith
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Iklan ngasal..
hehehehe...agen properti kalo ga dapat target iklannya main embat aja...dasar tikus garong... kayak iklan esia aja... On 8/31/07, investor_ngesot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ini baca iklan di Kompas hari ini.. AWAS KRISMON KE-2, DOLLAR MELONJAK, HARGA SAHAM TIDAK STABIL BELI PROPERTI INVESTASI PALING AMAN MENGUNTUNGKAN SAAT INI (masak sih.. ? :)) salam ngesot
[obrolan-bandar] Gemerlapan LAS VEGAS now in BEJ
Gemerlapan LAS VEGAS now in BEJ Engga usah jauh jauh ke LV, anda sekarang bisa maen lempar dadu TEMPE di bej... Setiap hari BUKA kecuali saat disuspend...
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Iklan ngasal..
Dulu ketika KRISMON-1, bukannya property ambrol dan US$ IS KING ? Ketika US$ udah PUNCAKNYA baru switch/beli PROPERTY di harga LOWESTnya... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pusi Imoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehehehe...agen properti kalo ga dapat target iklannya main embat aja...dasar tikus garong... kayak iklan esia aja... On 8/31/07, investor_ngesot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ini baca iklan di Kompas hari ini.. AWAS KRISMON KE-2, DOLLAR MELONJAK, HARGA SAHAM TIDAK STABIL BELI PROPERTI INVESTASI PALING AMAN MENGUNTUNGKAN SAAT INI (masak sih.. ? :)) salam ngesot
[obrolan-bandar] I buy some on technical..
I see some improvement on US GDP also and regional today. Good luck. What do you think Masters?
Fwd: [obrolan-bandar] TMPI dibuka lagi ....
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Gemerlapan LAS VEGAS now in BEJ
istilah betawinye.. ENTE JUAL, ANE BELI.. udah masalah LAST MAN STANDING.. ya mbah.. sorry.. masih anak ingusan.. belum ngerti cara main dadu. (walaupun pengen.. ajarin donk :) salam meler ingusan --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, michael owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wahahhaha.komentar yg menarik mbah 650 - 940 gila...30-50% per hari euyy sapa mau ikutan ?? jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gemerlapan LAS VEGAS now in BEJ Engga usah jauh jauh ke LV, anda sekarang bisa maen lempar dadu TEMPE di bej... Setiap hari BUKA kecuali saat disuspend...
