Re: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
Liat layar si rojak ambil itung cuan Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:54:32 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang si Rojak kemane nih.., Jaaakkk., counter dooonggg !! masak ente diem aje, lu diledekin tuw. ! JT From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bwijaya Sent: 09 Desember 2009 14:32 To: ob Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka _ Dari: kobayashi mitsukuni http://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=ueno_kobaya...@yah oo.co.id ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. http://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=seputar-...@yahoog roups.com seputar-...@yahoogroups.com Cc: Obrolan bandar http://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=obrolan-ban...@yah oogroups.com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. . Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00
Re: [ob] BUMI inflow hari ini
p boyz ngga i tot yu nih..? Pada 8 Desember 2009 16:21, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.commenulis: Iya tuh, katanya elty juga besok naik... Sumber rumor: Pak B*yz -- ngga tega nulisnya Pada 8 Desember 2009 16:16, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.idmenulis: Rumornya sih mau diangkat besok saat demo Sumber rumor: Pak Boyz... hehehe...
Re: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
Rojak lagi demo di HI prof... Regards,... DvD™ In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 2:54:32 PM Subject: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang si Rojak kemane nih…., Jaaakkk…, counter dooonggg !! masak ente diem aje, lu diledekin tuw… ! JT From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bwijaya Sent: 09 Desember 2009 14:32 To: ob Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang .kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari:kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .. Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00
Re: [ob] BUMI inflow hari ini
wkwkwkwk..a new way bilang I tot u pake nama orang lain.. From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:03:43 PM Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI inflow hari ini p boyz ngga i tot yu nih..? Pada 8 Desember 2009 16:21, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com menulis: Iya tuh, katanya elty juga besok naik... Sumber rumor: Pak B*yz -- ngga tega nulisnya Pada 8 Desember 2009 16:16, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id menulis: Rumornya sih mau diangkat besok saat demo Sumber rumor: Pak Boyz... hehehe...
[ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk?
Prof, mBah. ELTY sudah boleh masuk?
Re: [ob] TWO DAYS WORKSHOP - Alligator Trading System
Maksud saya: tetap bisa menghasilkan profit overall. Misalnya, kalo kita pakai golden/death cross MACD, itu khan effective hanya untuk market yang trending, tapi kalo pas lagi sideways, uang kita habis cut loss, karena kena false signal melulu. Kalo dengar pernyataan Prof. tadi, berarti Alligator system ini akan dapat mencegah kita untuk main pada saat market lagi side-way ya. Jadi kita hanya akan disuruh main pada saat dia nangkap signal bahwa market lagi trending, benar gitu ya Prof? Kalo bener begitu Prof, saya setuju ama Prof, ini system sakti banget. Kita nggak usah pusing punya berbagai macam trading system untuk market yang lagi uptrend / downtrend / sideway, cuma satu saja, Alligator ! Thanks Prof. Regards, Bandar Bola 2009/12/9 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com efektif untuk apa dulu nih Pak…, sebagai trading map jelas efektif, tapi kalau yg anda maksud efektif bisa CUAN, ya ngga lah.., kalao harga diem ya gimana mau cuan.., hehe…., dalam kondisi sideways berat system tidak akan kasih signal trading, artinya anda disuruh minggir dulu, begitu ada opportunity, dimana akan terdetect oleh system, baru kita masuk… JT
Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
jangan2 lg jual mobil yg kemaren hasil Cuan utk tutup kerugian lagi nich..hhehehhee.. Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 14:54:32 Judul: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang si Rojak kemane nih…., Jaaakkk…, counter dooonggg !! masak ente diem aje, lu diledekin tuw… ! JT From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bwijaya Sent: 09 Desember 2009 14:32 To: ob Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang .kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari:kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .. Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo! Pingbox baru sekarang!! Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah. http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/
Bls: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
hehhee..betul..bro...coba kasih tahu..BUMI mau di short sampai termurah brapa..400 ? kapan..? hehhehe..sy siap2 dech..gadaikan rumah semuanya sy buy ke bumi...wukakakakk. Dari: Stocker Bei stocker...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 14:58:43 Judul: Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang si Bozz juga mikir kalo mo ngeshort, jangan dikira kalo Bozz ngeshort warga OB yg pegang barang pada kabur.OB' er tuh nekat-nekad malah ada mo sekolahin rumah buat nambah lagi...nah loh --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bwijaya emailkesatu@ gmail.com wrote: From: Bwijaya emailkesatu@ gmail.com Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 7:32 AM wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. . Lebih bergaul dan terhubung dengan lebih baik. Tambah lebih banyak teman ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
RE: Mbah Prof JT: Re: [ob] Re: Tambahan Modal Trading
Waduh Mpok Fifie nasehatnya bijak banget kayak Mbah kal. _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fifi young Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:06 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Mbah Prof JT: Re: [ob] Re: Tambahan Modal Trading May be I can give you some advice: 1. If you think you are already an expert in stocks trading, go ahead with your plan. (considered yourself a stocks trader for more than 3 years or more)...BUT..., listen to me carefully... if you are still not sure of what you're doing in stocks trading or if you are a beginner/newbie; you'd better forget about your plan. 2. It's not that easy to get a loan from the reputable bank if you don't own a company; and even though if you have your own company, still, it's not that easy to get a loan. (I mean..., to get a loan for more than 500 juta). Your property and your saving could not guaranteed or be qualified to get a loan. Banks will check your income, cash flow etc. 3. Never take any risks/gamble with your only shelter, do not jeopardize your family. 4. Once you tied up with debt, you will lose control easily... 5. Don't be the 4th person to jump from mall... 2009/12/7 sada0...@yahoo. mailto:sada0...@yahoo.com com Pengen denger comment Mbah Prof JT dong dalam kasus ini, please.. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR _ From: Stocks ForRR stocks...@yahoo. mailto:stocks...@yahoo.com com Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 02:55:18 -0800 (PST) To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Tambahan Modal Trading Thank you sir... atas masukan dan sarannya... Regards, _ From: b3tonsportz b3tonsportz@ mailto:b3tonspo...@yahoo.com yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 5:35:31 PM Subject: [ob] Re: Tambahan Modal Trading Sudah byk yang menyarankan jangan ya bro, Saya ceritakan saja proses pengajuan KPR untuk rumahnya, 1. Kita mengajukan ke bank untuk mendapatkan re-financing dengan jaminan sertifikat rumah, jika kita karyawan perlu slip gaji dan surat keterangan dari pimpinan perusahaan tempat kita bekerja, jika gaji kita kecil pasti akan di tolak, jika kita wiraswasta maka perlu SIUP/TDP usaha kita, dan sekarang ini kita perlu NPWP. Kalo kita punya aset lain misalnya kios, mobil, tanah, dll dan kita cantumkan sebagai referensi tentu akan semakin mudah di terima. 2. Setelah itu anggap kita telah memenuhi persyaratan, katakan pengajuan KPR kita di setujui, baru lah dana nya akan cair dan memang di formulir akan di tanyakan keperluan penggunaan dana nya, dan jika di tulis buat trading saham tentu saja akan di tolak, kalo wiraswasta isi saja untuk modal pengembangan usaha. 3. Sedikit gambaran, nanti rumah yg kita KPR itu wajib kita asuransikan, plus bunga, biaya adm, dll. Dan jatuh nya itu cicilan per bulan akan lumayan tinggi, dan saya paham maksud anda maunya modal rumah tersebut di jadikan modal trading/invest saham, dari keuntungan trading/invest di sisihkan bayar cicilan, sounds perfect tapi bukan gitu bro, anda bukan hanya bayar bunga saja tapi itungannya plus cicilan rumah, jd modal yang anda dapatkan tidak sepenuhnya bisa di gunakan untuk trading, ujung2 nya tiap bulan anda harus menyicil kembali ke bank, jd untuk modal trading ujung2 nya anda dapatkan ga banyak, not worth it. Kalo mau untuk trading, langsung saja hubungi broker anda gunakan sertifikat anda sebagai collateral, itu emg khusus utk keperluan seperti yg anda mau. Di Indonesia ga tau bisa ga, kalo di luar negeri ini lumrah di lakukan. Beberapa tahun lalu waktu market bullish saya pernah memiliki ide yg sama dengan anda, saya pernah coba mengajukan kredit mobil saya, proses nya hampir sama dengan kredit rumah, dan seperti yang saya ceritakan setelah saya ajukan ke perusahaan finance kemudian dapat simulasi angsuran, ujung2nya saya lihat hanya bikin capek saja, tidak menguntungkan. Kecuali anda dapatnya kredit investasi, yang kita hanya cukup bayar bunga saja, emaknya bisa kapan2 baru bayar. Sedangkan kalo kredit KPR / Mobil, kita harus angsur hutang pokok nya. Tidak sesuai untuk modal main saham, dan beruntung tidak saya teruskan, karena beberapa bulan kemudian market crash terkena sub prime mortage. Personally, not recommended at all. --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Stocks ForRR stocks...@... wrote: Guys, ada yg sudah pernah / pernah nyoba sekolahin sertifikat rumah gk buat tambahan modal trading? Kalo ada, please share dong, your experience How's the rules, ngajuin kemana, ... etc etc... Denger2 sih, katanya perlu ada slip gaji, minimal kerja 3 tahun, etc etc nyang bikin pala ane jadi mumet dah... Secara, ane bukan orang kantoran, ane pengangguran nyang kerjaannye cuman liatin running trade doang. hehehehe ditambah lagi, katanya
[ob] trader periode 2006-2009
trader yg sejak tahun 2006 dan hingga sekarang masih bertahan mentalnya udah cukup teruji, mau indeks ke 500 atau 1000 tetap akan ditungguin sampai rebound lagi ... kecuali trader yg udah bangkrut, sepertinya udah kapok kali ...
Bls: [ob] trader periode 2006-2009
apalagi dari jaman 97-98 yg bertahan kebanyakan investor.. klopun trader bertahan, biasanya berubah haluan menjadi semi investor atau investor sekalian.. hanya ada satu dua orang yga bermain seperti trader kebanyakan beberapa dari temen2 pemain lawas berubah haluan dari trader jadi investor.. Dari: D O D I K kido...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:16:30 Judul: [ob] trader periode 2006-2009 trader yg sejak tahun 2006 dan hingga sekarang masih bertahan mentalnya udah cukup teruji, mau indeks ke 500 atau 1000 tetap akan ditungguin sampai rebound lagi ... kecuali trader yg udah bangkrut, sepertinya udah kapok kali ... Pemanasan global? Apa sih itu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! http://id.answers.yahoo.com
RE: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk?
Yeee.., kenape ngga kemaren di 205, pan dah dikasih clue, skrng udh hampir 10% tuh.., copet mah dah pada TP kali.., kalo mau beli sekarang buat swing, tunggu stabil dulu deh, ntar kite tanya Buaya..., berapa level buy berikutnya... Note: Enaknya nyopet kalau di harga 200'an, 3 point aja udh hampir 10 %..., padahal relative harga blom kemana-mana... Hehehe... Update chart... JT elty.png -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TimurLaut Sent: 09 Desember 2009 15:07 To: Obrolan Bandar Subject: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk? Prof, mBah. ELTY sudah boleh masuk? image001.png
Re: [ob] trader periode 2006-2009
Bukan kapok Pak, mungkin dah ga ada modal lagi kali heehehehe. dah bangkrut sampe krut krut krut 2009/12/9 D O D I K kido...@yahoo.com trader yg sejak tahun 2006 dan hingga sekarang masih bertahan mentalnya udah cukup teruji, mau indeks ke 500 atau 1000 tetap akan ditungguin sampai rebound lagi ... kecuali trader yg udah bangkrut, sepertinya udah kapok kali ... -- Rgds, Petra Immanuel
Re: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
Honda Jazz jadi Supra Fitt? regards, DonQicot DEWA gowes ke GoCeng !! From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:07:36 PM Subject: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang jangan2 lg jual mobil yg kemaren hasil Cuan utk tutup kerugian lagi nich..hhehehhee. . Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 14:54:32 Judul: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang si Rojak kemane nih…., Jaaakkk…, counter dooonggg !! masak ente diem aje, lu diledekin tuw… ! JT From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bwijaya Sent: 09 Desember 2009 14:32 To: ob Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang .kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari:kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .. Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo! Pingbox baru sekarang!! Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah
Re: [ob] BUMI inflow hari ini
2009/12/9 Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com p boyz ngga i tot yu nih..? Ngga ah... emangnya kita co apaan
Re: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk?
Yeyyy...pertanyaannya kan udah bisamasuk belum? kalau nyopet mah udah kemaren tapi dapatnya di 210.. Jadi? TP or nambah nih? volume gede oi From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comCc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.comSent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:22:24 PMSubject: RE: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk? Yeee.., kenape ngga kemaren di 205, pan dah dikasih clue, skrng udh hampir 10% tuh.., copet mah dah pada TP kali.., kalo mau beli sekarang buat swing, tunggu stabil dulu deh, ntar kite tanya Buaya..., berapa level buy berikutnya.. . Note: Enaknya nyopet kalau di harga 200’an, 3 point aja udh hampir 10 %..., padahal relative harga blom kemana-mana……. Hehehe….. Update chart... JT -Original Message-From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of TimurLautSent: 09 Desember 2009 15:07To: Obrolan BandarSubject: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk? Prof, mBah. ELTY sudah boleh masuk?
[ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain
Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Sepertinya BD saham bakrie senengnya bermain api... http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbtel5.png http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwelty5.png
Re: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk?
berart tinggal ENRG yg belon mental ya Prof..?khan levelnya sama dgn ELTY...jadi yg belum keburu masuk ELTY boleh samber ENRG tuch.regards,DonQicotDEWA gowes ke GoCeng !!From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comCc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.comSent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:22:24 PMSubject: RE: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk? Yeee.., kenape ngga kemaren di 205, pan dah dikasih clue, skrng udh hampir 10% tuh.., copet mah dah pada TP kali.., kalo mau beli sekarang buat swing, tunggu stabil dulu deh, ntar kite tanya Buaya..., berapa level buy berikutnya.. . Note: Enaknya nyopet kalau di harga 200’an, 3 point aja udh hampir 10 %..., padahal relative harga blom kemana-mana……. Hehehe….. Update chart... JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of TimurLaut Sent: 09 Desember 2009 15:07 To: Obrolan Bandar Subject: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk? Prof, mBah. ELTY sudah boleh masuk?
Re: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk?
level sekarang jangan dulu deh..., ntar ane liatin trigger berikutnya..., takutnye kempes lagi..., kalo udh ada barang ngga apa-apa hold aja... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, TimurLaut i4...@... wrote: Yeyyy... pertanyaannya kan udah bisa masuk belum? kalau nyopet mah udah kemaren tapi dapatnya di 210.. Jadi? TP or nambah nih? volume gede oi From: JT jsxtra...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:22:24 PM Subject: RE: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk?  Yeee.., kenape ngga kemaren di 205, pan dah dikasih clue, skrng udh hampir 10% tuh.., copet mah dah pada TP kali.., kalo mau beli sekarang buat swing, tunggu stabil dulu deh, ntar kite tanya Buaya..., berapa level buy berikutnya.. .  Note: Enaknya nyopet kalau di harga 200âan, 3 point aja udh hampir 10 %..., padahal relative harga blom kemana-manaâ¦â¦. Heheheâ¦..  Update chart...  JT   -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of TimurLaut Sent: 09 Desember 2009 15:07 To: Obrolan Bandar Subject: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk?  Prof, mBah.  ELTY sudah boleh masuk?  Â
Re: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk?
Yes Sir... From: jsxtrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:31:50 PM Subject: Re: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk? level sekarang jangan dulu deh..., ntar ane liatin trigger berikutnya.. ., takutnye kempes lagi..., kalo udh ada barang ngga apa-apa hold aja... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, TimurLaut i4...@... wrote: Yeyyy... pertanyaann ya kan udah bisa masuk belum? kalau nyopet mah udah kemaren tapi dapatnya di 210.. Jadi? TP or nambah nih? volume gede oi _ _ __ From: JT jsxtra...@. .. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:22:24 PM Subject: RE: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk?  Yeee.., kenape ngga kemaren di 205, pan dah dikasih clue, skrng udh hampir 10% tuh.., copet mah dah pada TP kali.., kalo mau beli sekarang buat swing, tunggu stabil dulu deh, ntar kite tanya Buaya..., berapa level buy berikutnya.. .  Note: Enaknya nyopet kalau di harga 200’an, 3 point aja udh hampir 10 %..., padahal relative harga blom kemana-mana……. Hehehe…..  Update chart...  JT   -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of TimurLaut Sent: 09 Desember 2009 15:07 To: Obrolan Bandar Subject: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk?  Prof, mBah.  ELTY sudah boleh masuk?  Â
Re: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain
Iya mbah moga2 lancar Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:28:26 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Sepertinya BD saham bakrie senengnya bermain api... http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbtel5.png http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwelty5.png
Re: [ob] BUMI inflow hari ini
Ibu Fifi cewe kok... dijamin... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz® m457...@... wrote: 2009/12/9 Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@... p boyz ngga i tot yu nih..? Ngga ah... emangnya kita co apaan
Re: [ob] BUMI inflow hari ini
Hahahaha ngakak sampe sakit perut Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: boyz® m457...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:26:44 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI inflow hari ini 2009/12/9 Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com p boyz ngga i tot yu nih..? Ngga ah... emangnya kita co apaan
Re: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain
BUMI udah 2550, artinya ngitung LOP embah bener... Bener engga yah emang gua pikirin... hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, andre...@... wrote: Iya mbah moga2 lancar Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:28:26 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Sepertinya BD saham bakrie senengnya bermain api... http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbtel5.png http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwelty5.png
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wuakakakak.. entar usai market juga di komen kali.. sekarang lagi bingung dia.. mau buy apa kali.. biasanya suk teriak2 suruh buy..kl dia lg mau jualan.. hehehhehe... Dari: D0N Qicot o5ana_indone...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:24:58 Judul: Re: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Honda Jazz jadi Supra Fitt? regards, DonQicot DEWA gowes ke GoCeng !! From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:07:36 PM Subject: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang jangan2 lg jual mobil yg kemaren hasil Cuan utk tutup kerugian lagi nich..hhehehhee. . Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 14:54:32 Judul: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang si Rojak kemane nih…., Jaaakkk…, counter dooonggg !! masak ente diem aje, lu diledekin tuw… ! JT From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bwijaya Sent: 09 Desember 2009 14:32 To: ob Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang .kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari:kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .. Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo! Pingbox baru sekarang!! Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepat yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan IE8 di sini! http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
RE: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk?
Enrg ngantri 205 cukup aman.., jebol 200 kabur…. ! From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of D0N Qicot Sent: 09 Desember 2009 15:30 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk? berart tinggal ENRG yg belon mental ya Prof..? khan levelnya sama dgn ELTY... jadi yg belum keburu masuk ELTY boleh samber ENRG tuch. regards, DonQicot DEWA gowes ke GoCeng !! _ From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:22:24 PM Subject: RE: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk? Yeee.., kenape ngga kemaren di 205, pan dah dikasih clue, skrng udh hampir 10% tuh.., copet mah dah pada TP kali.., kalo mau beli sekarang buat swing, tunggu stabil dulu deh, ntar kite tanya Buaya..., berapa level buy berikutnya.. . Note: Enaknya nyopet kalau di harga 200’an, 3 point aja udh hampir 10 %..., padahal relative harga blom kemana-mana……. Hehehe….. Update chart... JT elty.png -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of TimurLaut Sent: 09 Desember 2009 15:07 To: Obrolan Bandar Subject: [ob] ELTY sudah boleh masuk? Prof, mBah. ELTY sudah boleh masuk? Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 image001.png
Re: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain
Kalo skenarionya dibahas di OB nanti BD jadi contrary gak bos??
[ob] Siapa yg Short BUMI ?
Siapa yg kemarin (bilang) Short BUMI ? Capedeh.com
Bls: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain
Mbah sich mungkin ga mikirin.. cuma sy aja yg usil..sedang ngitungin.. hari ini Mbah Cuan Brapa lagi ya..?!!! hehehhe... kemana nich,..Mba FIFI.. Mb..buruan kitra samperin Mbah.. lagi Cuan besar lagi tuh..hhehehe... Kabur Nb : kl kaabur ga pakai salam dl ya..nyusul ya mbah...wkwkwkk Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:37:50 Judul: Re: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain BUMI udah 2550, artinya ngitung LOP embah bener... Bener engga yah emang gua pikirin... hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, andre...@... wrote: Iya mbah moga2 lancar Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:28:26 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Sepertinya BD saham bakrie senengnya bermain api... http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbtel5. png http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwelty5. png Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [ob] Siapa yg Short BUMI ?
Yang jelas bukan Rojak From: ruzli...@gmail.com ruzli...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:40:54 PM Subject: [ob] Siapa yg Short BUMI ? Siapa yg kemarin (bilang) Short BUMI ? Capedeh.com
Re: [ob] Siapa yg Short BUMI ?
Jangan diikutin pak.. Liatin chart aja, sm dngerin mbah n prof JT.. Haha.. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: ruzli...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:40:54 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Siapa yg Short BUMI ? Siapa yg kemarin (bilang) Short BUMI ? Capedeh.com
Re: [ob] Siapa yg Short BUMI ?
Wakaka Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: ruzli...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:40:54 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Siapa yg Short BUMI ? Siapa yg kemarin (bilang) Short BUMI ? Capedeh.com
Re: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain
Mbah B7 semua nya ijo kecuali UNSP apakah ada skenario bandar disini??? Sent from my BullBerry® Smatphone -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:28:26 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Sepertinya BD saham bakrie senengnya bermain api... http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbtel5.png http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwelty5.png
Re: Bls: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain
BD BUMI itu senengnya maen listrik, tadi pagi listrik embah mati lagi, apa belon bayar tagihan PLN .. hehehe... Terus BD BUMI itu terobsesi ama GEOMETRI: http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumimw.png --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@... wrote: Mbah sich mungkin ga mikirin.. cuma sy aja yg usil..sedang ngitungin.. hari ini Mbah Cuan Brapa lagi ya..?!!! hehehhe... kemana nich,..Mba FIFI.. Mb..buruan kitra samperin Mbah.. lagi Cuan besar lagi tuh..hhehehe... Kabur Nb : kl kaabur ga pakai salam dl ya..nyusul ya mbah...wkwkwkk Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:37:50 Judul: Re: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain  BUMI udah 2550, artinya ngitung LOP embah bener... Bener engga yah emang gua pikirin... hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, andref_r@ wrote: Iya mbah moga2 lancar Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:28:26 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Sepertinya BD saham bakrie senengnya bermain api... http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbtel5. png http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwelty5. png Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
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oh..pantes td siang ga lihat potingan Mbah.. hehehe.. mudah2an BUMI kuat bertahan dan Close diu 2575... Selamat Mbah.. Salam. kobayashi. Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:49:54 Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain BD BUMI itu senengnya maen listrik, tadi pagi listrik embah mati lagi, apa belon bayar tagihan PLN .. hehehe... Terus BD BUMI itu terobsesi ama GEOMETRI: http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumimw. png --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ ... wrote: Mbah sich mungkin ga mikirin.. cuma sy aja yg usil..sedang ngitungin.. hari ini Mbah Cuan Brapa lagi ya..?!!! hehehhe... kemana nich,..Mba FIFI.. Mb.. buruan kitra samperin Mbah.. lagi Cuan besar lagi tuh..hhehehe. .. Kabur Nb : kl kaabur ga pakai salam dl ya..nyusul ya mbah...wkwkwkk _ _ __ Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:37:50 Judul: Re: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain  BUMI udah 2550, artinya ngitung LOP embah bener... Bener engga yah emang gua pikirin... hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, andref_r@ wrote: Iya mbah moga2 lancar Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:28:26 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Sepertinya BD saham bakrie senengnya bermain api... http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbtel5. png http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwelty5. png Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ invite/ Selalu bersama teman-teman di Yahoo! Messenger. Tambahkan mereka dari email atau jaringan sosial Anda sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
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Saya kirain mbah lg mojok sm bu fifi hehehehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:54:30 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: Bls: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain oh..pantes td siang ga lihat potingan Mbah.. hehehe.. mudah2an BUMI kuat bertahan dan Close diu 2575... Selamat Mbah.. Salam. kobayashi. Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:49:54 Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain BD BUMI itu senengnya maen listrik, tadi pagi listrik embah mati lagi, apa belon bayar tagihan PLN .. hehehe... Terus BD BUMI itu terobsesi ama GEOMETRI: http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumimw. png --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ ... wrote: Mbah sich mungkin ga mikirin.. cuma sy aja yg usil..sedang ngitungin.. hari ini Mbah Cuan Brapa lagi ya..?!!! hehehhe... kemana nich,..Mba FIFI.. Mb.. buruan kitra samperin Mbah.. lagi Cuan besar lagi tuh..hhehehe. .. Kabur Nb : kl kaabur ga pakai salam dl ya..nyusul ya mbah...wkwkwkk Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:37:50 Judul: Re: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain  BUMI udah 2550, artinya ngitung LOP embah bener... Bener engga yah emang gua pikirin... hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, andref_r@ wrote: Iya mbah moga2 lancar Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:28:26 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Sepertinya BD saham bakrie senengnya bermain api... http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbtel5. png http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwelty5. png Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ invite/ Selalu bersama teman-teman di Yahoo! Messenger. Tambahkan mereka dari email atau jaringan sosial Anda sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
Wakakakkakaak Kompor mleduk.com Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: bayu_kusuma_wardh...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:35:06 To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Brisik amat ya Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Bwijaya emailkes...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:32:19 To: obobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-...@yahoogroups.com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .
Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
Wakaka Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Panji d_pa...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:59:18 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Wakakakkakaak Kompor mleduk.com Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: bayu_kusuma_wardh...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:35:06 To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Brisik amat ya Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Bwijaya emailkes...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:32:19 To: obobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-...@yahoogroups.com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .
RE: [ob] TWO DAYS WORKSHOP - Alligator Trading System
Kalau yg dimaksud adalah profit OVERALL, YES Sir. System alligator pada awalnya adalah trend following system, tapi pada perkembangannya, system ini juga mampu dipakai untuk counter trend trading dengan SANGAT BAIK., betul sekali, pada masa sideways kita akan sulit sekali cari duit, no matter system apa yg kita pakai ( kecuali jika sideways dalam range yang cukup lebar)., Trader banyak kalah dalam masa sideways, karenanya kita sebaiknya jangan main disaat saham lagi sideways.., nah Alligator system akan kasih kita petanya dgn jelas, sehingga kita hindari dulu..., trus berarti kita keluar dari market?? Nop, pan ada saham yg lainnya., hehe Anyway, the nice thing about alligator bukanlah akurasinya, tapi kelengkapannya., sehingga kita bisa trading dengan baik dan benar, kalau sdh baik dan benar, maka dengan sendirinya peluang untuk menang akan jauh lebih besar dari kalah., Not per Trade, tapi secara overall.. JT From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bandar Bola Sent: 09 Desember 2009 15:07 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] TWO DAYS WORKSHOP - Alligator Trading System Maksud saya: tetap bisa menghasilkan profit overall. Misalnya, kalo kita pakai golden/death cross MACD, itu khan effective hanya untuk market yang trending, tapi kalo pas lagi sideways, uang kita habis cut loss, karena kena false signal melulu. Kalo dengar pernyataan Prof. tadi, berarti Alligator system ini akan dapat mencegah kita untuk main pada saat market lagi side-way ya. Jadi kita hanya akan disuruh main pada saat dia nangkap signal bahwa market lagi trending, benar gitu ya Prof? Kalo bener begitu Prof, saya setuju ama Prof, ini system sakti banget. Kita nggak usah pusing punya berbagai macam trading system untuk market yang lagi uptrend / downtrend / sideway, cuma satu saja, Alligator ! Thanks Prof. Regards, Bandar Bola 2009/12/9 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com efektif untuk apa dulu nih Pak., sebagai trading map jelas efektif, tapi kalau yg anda maksud efektif bisa CUAN, ya ngga lah.., kalao harga diem ya gimana mau cuan.., hehe.., dalam kondisi sideways berat system tidak akan kasih signal trading, artinya anda disuruh minggir dulu, begitu ada opportunity, dimana akan terdetect oleh system, baru kita masuk. JT Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00
Re: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain
satu lagi ENRG kaga jadi IJO.. karena ada yg towel 1 lot.. regards, DonQicot DEWA gowes ke GoCeng !! From: ivan ipan...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:49:29 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Mbah B7 semua nya ijo kecuali UNSP apakah ada skenario bandar disini??? Sent from my BullBerry® Smatphone From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:28:26 - To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Sepertinya BD saham bakrie senengnya bermain api... http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbtel5. png http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwelty5. png
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlat...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today’s rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today’s International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can’t get any slower… Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a Sellers market here). Hexa is the dominate player in the super sized excavators with 100%, not typo here, market share in the over 250 ton class (Komatsu does not even have a product of this size). Coal miners continue to upgrade (even Pama buy them) to these super sized excavators for operating efficiency as their scale up their production. Bluesky for this stock will be from infrastructure spending accounting for less than 20% of sales compare to over 80% in this segment pre 1997. BUY! Key takeaways: * Demand for heavy equipment is set to accelerate over the coming years as demand for power, particularly coal-fired, is booming. Chinaand Indiathermal coal demand may expand by 700m tonnes in just five years, equal to current global seaborne thermal-coal market * The company sells 23% of its unit to mining sector, mostly coal companies and contractors, while revenue from mining unit contributing to 67% of total. * Note that the company sold 54 large and giant equipments in Jan-Aug vs. 28 units in 2008 and has further secured almost US$190m worth of contracts to deliver another 64 units of equipments in 2010 order book period * The company has successfully de-leveraged its balance sheet after seeing its net gearing peaked at 144% as of Dec06, with net gearing as of Sep09 stood at 33%. With its strong cash flow generation, we expect Hexindo to be in a net cash position in 2011. * Stock trades at 6.3x 2010 PER and 4.3x 2010 EV/Ebitda, still below its five years average historical valuations. Meanwhile, balance sheet and return are better than they were over the past five years DELTA DUNIA (DOID IJ) Conference call details Conference Call with Delta Dunia Makmur management team Date: Thursday,10 December 2009 Speakers: Patrick Walujo (Vice President Director), Thomas Husted (CFO), Budikwanto Kuesar (Managing director BUMA) Time: 8am - London 4pm – Singapore/Hong Kong/Kuala Lumpur/Manila/ Shanghai/ Taipei 3pm – Jakarta/Bangkok Delta Dunia management team would discuss the latest progress post acquisition of Bukit Makmur (Buma),
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hahahhaah... Cuan dech...yg mungut Bumi di 2450..+ 125... close 2575Full Marubozhu besok Lanjut...! Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:49:54 Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain BD BUMI itu senengnya maen listrik, tadi pagi listrik embah mati lagi, apa belon bayar tagihan PLN .. hehehe... Terus BD BUMI itu terobsesi ama GEOMETRI: http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumimw. png --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ ... wrote: Mbah sich mungkin ga mikirin.. cuma sy aja yg usil..sedang ngitungin.. hari ini Mbah Cuan Brapa lagi ya..?!!! hehehhe... kemana nich,..Mba FIFI.. Mb.. buruan kitra samperin Mbah.. lagi Cuan besar lagi tuh..hhehehe. .. Kabur Nb : kl kaabur ga pakai salam dl ya..nyusul ya mbah...wkwkwkk _ _ __ Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:37:50 Judul: Re: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain  BUMI udah 2550, artinya ngitung LOP embah bener... Bener engga yah emang gua pikirin... hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, andref_r@ wrote: Iya mbah moga2 lancar Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:28:26 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Sepertinya BD saham bakrie senengnya bermain api... http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbtel5. png http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwelty5. png Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ invite/ __ Coba Yahoo! Messenger 10 Beta yang baru. Kini dengan update real-time, panggilan video, dan banyak lagi! Kunjungi http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/
Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
Gmn Mas Bwijaya ? ilang barang ya ? kaciyannn deh lu. makanya jadi orang jangan songong. Kalo tadi elu bilang ada yang counter tentang Makasar, ya di Makasar emang gitu kalo demo. gak pernah nonton buser siang ya Mas ? Lagian kalo yang takut ada sentimen jelek gara2 hari anti korupsi mah udah pada kabur dari kemarin. Malah hari ini pada buy back. Besok2 jangan songong lagi ya Mas. peace. -toto- 2009/12/9 Panji d_pa...@yahoo.com Wakakakkakaak Kompor mleduk.com Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -- *From: * bayu_kusuma_wardh...@yahoo.com *Date: *Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:35:06 + *To: *Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Brisik amat ya Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * Bwijaya emailkes...@gmail.com *Date: *Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:32:19 +0700 *To: *obobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *[ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka -- *Dari:* kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id *Kepada:* seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-...@yahoogroups.comhttp://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=seputar-...@yahoogroups.com *Cc:* Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com *Terkirim:* Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 *Judul:* [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .
Re: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain
Hore, Mbah bener lagi Thanks to Mbah n Pak Boys... regards From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:28:26 PM Subject: [ob] Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Disaat market Bearish, Bakrie bermain Sepertinya BD saham bakrie senengnya bermain api... http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbtel5. png http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwelty5. png
Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL
Pada saat harga turun, TIDAK akan ada indicator yg bilang bagus karena umumnya indikator bekerja melihat gerakan harga, kalo harga naik otomatis indicator bagus dan sebaliknya. Tapi kemarin dan tadi pagi, IHSG dan BUMI turun, ITMG digebug dalam kemarin, si emailkesatu bekoar koar engga berhenti henti, engga tahu apa motifnya... Ternyata BENER inflow... Tapi apakah ini berarti BUMI masuk wave 3 disaat semua BC ada diwave 5 ?. atau cuman buat sementara ngeganjel IHSG doang ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@... wrote: Pagi yg sangat menghibur... Heheee... Motivenya utk Menghibur.. Hahaa.. -One shoot- financestockinfo.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:55:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi BUMI inflow lagi Pagi ini BUMI inflow lagi melanjutkan Inflow kemarin sore... Motivenya belum jelas, apakah ini akumulasi atau hanya untuk menahan kejatuhan index IHSG -5.
RE: [ob] Siapa yg Short BUMI ?
Emang Sumi Saham apaan di Short ?? wkwkwkw -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ruzli...@gmail.com Sent: 09 Desember 2009 15:41 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Siapa yg Short BUMI ? Siapa yg kemarin (bilang) Short BUMI ? Capedeh.com
Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
Muantap dah thx bwijaya ane hari ini malah cuan gara2 ente kmrn teriak2 sell, ane sikat aja..hahahaha Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: toto aja tototj...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:15:34 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Gmn Mas Bwijaya ? ilang barang ya ? kaciyannn deh lu. makanya jadi orang jangan songong. Kalo tadi elu bilang ada yang counter tentang Makasar, ya di Makasar emang gitu kalo demo. gak pernah nonton buser siang ya Mas ? Lagian kalo yang takut ada sentimen jelek gara2 hari anti korupsi mah udah pada kabur dari kemarin. Malah hari ini pada buy back. Besok2 jangan songong lagi ya Mas. peace. -toto- 2009/12/9 Panji d_pa...@yahoo.com Wakakakkakaak Kompor mleduk.com Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -- *From: * bayu_kusuma_wardh...@yahoo.com *Date: *Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:35:06 + *To: *Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Brisik amat ya Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * Bwijaya emailkes...@gmail.com *Date: *Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:32:19 +0700 *To: *obobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *[ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka -- *Dari:* kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id *Kepada:* seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-...@yahoogroups.comhttp://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=seputar-...@yahoogroups.com *Cc:* Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com *Terkirim:* Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 *Judul:* [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
Iya Pak Herman, thanks banget ya atas infonya. Moga2 Pak Herman juga dapet profit gede hari ini, he.. he.. 2009/12/9, TimurLaut i4...@yahoo.com: Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlat...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today’s rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today’s International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can’t get any slower… Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a Sellers market here). Hexa is the dominate player in the super sized excavators with 100%, not typo here, market share in the over 250 ton class (Komatsu does not even have a product of this size). Coal miners continue to upgrade (even Pama buy them) to these super sized excavators for operating efficiency as their scale up their production. Bluesky for this stock will be from infrastructure spending accounting for less than 20% of sales compare to over 80% in this segment pre 1997. BUY! Key takeaways: * Demand for heavy equipment is set to accelerate over the coming years as demand for power, particularly coal-fired, is booming. Chinaand Indiathermal coal demand may expand by 700m tonnes in just five years, equal to current global seaborne thermal-coal market * The company sells 23% of its unit to mining sector, mostly coal companies and contractors, while revenue from mining unit contributing to 67% of total. * Note that the company sold 54 large and giant equipments in Jan-Aug vs. 28 units in 2008 and has further secured almost US$190m worth of contracts to deliver another 64 units of equipments in 2010 order book period * The company has successfully de-leveraged its balance sheet after seeing its net gearing peaked at 144% as of Dec06, with net gearing as of Sep09 stood at 33%. With its strong cash flow generation, we expect Hexindo to be in a net cash position in 2011. * Stock trades at 6.3x 2010 PER and 4.3x 2010 EV/Ebitda, still below its five years average historical valuations. Meanwhile, balance sheet and return are better than they were over the past five years DELTA DUNIA (DOID IJ) Conference call details Conference Call with Delta Dunia Makmur management team Date: Thursday,10 December 2009 Speakers: Patrick Walujo (Vice President Director), Thomas Husted (CFO), Budikwanto Kuesar (Managing director BUMA) Time: 8am - London 4pm – Singapore/Hong Kong/Kuala Lumpur/Manila/ Shanghai/ Taipei
[ob] Prof JT-JSMR
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Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL
Kayaknya besok bisa naek Embah, index ga dibikin ijo hari ini biar solider sama yg unjuk rasa..hehehe (Analisa Asal) Salam, Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:15:36 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Pada saat harga turun, TIDAK akan ada indicator yg bilang bagus karena umumnya indikator bekerja melihat gerakan harga, kalo harga naik otomatis indicator bagus dan sebaliknya. Tapi kemarin dan tadi pagi, IHSG dan BUMI turun, ITMG digebug dalam kemarin, si emailkesatu bekoar koar engga berhenti henti, engga tahu apa motifnya... Ternyata BENER inflow... Tapi apakah ini berarti BUMI masuk wave 3 disaat semua BC ada diwave 5 ?. atau cuman buat sementara ngeganjel IHSG doang ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@... wrote: Pagi yg sangat menghibur... Heheee... Motivenya utk Menghibur.. Hahaa.. -One shoot- financestockinfo.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:55:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi BUMI inflow lagi Pagi ini BUMI inflow lagi melanjutkan Inflow kemarin sore... Motivenya belum jelas, apakah ini akumulasi atau hanya untuk menahan kejatuhan index IHSG -5.
[ob] Data IDX
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RE: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL
Eitsss.., jangan salah Mbah.., kemaren Bumi turun tapi coba liat Alligator AO, malah nongol keatas..., juga liat momentumnya yg malah naik padahal harga digebuk turun..., hehehe.. JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 09 Desember 2009 16:16 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Pada saat harga turun, TIDAK akan ada indicator yg bilang bagus karena umumnya indikator bekerja melihat gerakan harga, kalo harga naik otomatis indicator bagus dan sebaliknya. Tapi kemarin dan tadi pagi, IHSG dan BUMI turun, ITMG digebug dalam kemarin, si emailkesatu bekoar koar engga berhenti henti, engga tahu apa motifnya... Ternyata BENER inflow... Tapi apakah ini berarti BUMI masuk wave 3 disaat semua BC ada diwave 5 ?. atau cuman buat sementara ngeganjel IHSG doang ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@... wrote: Pagi yg sangat menghibur... Heheee... Motivenya utk Menghibur.. Hahaa.. -One shoot- financestockinfo.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:55:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi BUMI inflow lagi Pagi ini BUMI inflow lagi melanjutkan Inflow kemarin sore... Motivenya belum jelas, apakah ini akumulasi atau hanya untuk menahan kejatuhan index IHSG -5. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
Manteb dah CLSA, kombinasi antara support kuat 2,700 dan report CLSA 4,150 langsung bawa terbang HEXA, hahahhahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@... wrote: Iya Pak Herman, thanks banget ya atas infonya. Moga2 Pak Herman juga dapet profit gede hari ini, he.. he.. 2009/12/9, TimurLaut i4...@...: Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlat...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today's rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today's International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can't get any slower Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a Sellers market here). Hexa is the dominate player in the super sized excavators with 100%, not typo here, market share in the over 250 ton class (Komatsu does not even have a product of this size). Coal miners continue to upgrade (even Pama buy them) to these super sized excavators for operating efficiency as their scale up their production. Bluesky for this stock will be from infrastructure spending accounting for less than 20% of sales compare to over 80% in this segment pre 1997. BUY! Key takeaways: * Demand for heavy equipment is set to accelerate over the coming years as demand for power, particularly coal-fired, is booming. Chinaand Indiathermal coal demand may expand by 700m tonnes in just five years, equal to current global seaborne thermal-coal market * The company sells 23% of its unit to mining sector, mostly coal companies and contractors, while revenue from mining unit contributing to 67% of total. * Note that the company sold 54 large and giant equipments in Jan-Aug vs. 28 units in 2008 and has further secured almost US$190m worth of contracts to deliver another 64 units of equipments in 2010 order book period * The company has successfully de-leveraged its balance sheet after seeing its net gearing peaked at 144% as of Dec06, with net gearing as of Sep09 stood at 33%. With its strong cash flow generation, we expect Hexindo to be in a net cash position in 2011. * Stock trades at 6.3x 2010 PER and 4.3x 2010 EV/Ebitda, still below its five years average historical valuations. Meanwhile, balance sheet and return are better than they were over the past five years DELTA DUNIA (DOID IJ) Conference call details Conference Call with Delta Dunia Makmur management
RE: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL
Sorry Kelupaan chartnya. bumi.png From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JT Sent: 09 Desember 2009 16:31 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Eitsss.., jangan salah Mbah.., kemaren Bumi turun tapi coba liat Alligator AO, malah nongol keatas..., juga liat momentumnya yg malah naik padahal harga digebuk turun..., hehehe.. JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 09 Desember 2009 16:16 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Pada saat harga turun, TIDAK akan ada indicator yg bilang bagus karena umumnya indikator bekerja melihat gerakan harga, kalo harga naik otomatis indicator bagus dan sebaliknya. Tapi kemarin dan tadi pagi, IHSG dan BUMI turun, ITMG digebug dalam kemarin, si emailkesatu bekoar koar engga berhenti henti, engga tahu apa motifnya... Ternyata BENER inflow... Tapi apakah ini berarti BUMI masuk wave 3 disaat semua BC ada diwave 5 ?. atau cuman buat sementara ngeganjel IHSG doang ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@... wrote: Pagi yg sangat menghibur... Heheee... Motivenya utk Menghibur.. Hahaa.. -One shoot- financestockinfo.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:55:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi BUMI inflow lagi Pagi ini BUMI inflow lagi melanjutkan Inflow kemarin sore... Motivenya belum jelas, apakah ini akumulasi atau hanya untuk menahan kejatuhan index IHSG -5. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 image001.png
RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
Apa hubungannya ma mahasiswa makasar ya. Ga ngerti gw. Haha.. Ente mahasiswa makasar ya bos ?? -One shoot- financestockinfo.blogspot.com From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bwijaya Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:32 PM To: ob Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka _ Dari: kobayashi mitsukuni http://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=ueno_kobaya...@yah oo.co.id ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. http://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=seputar-...@yahoog roups.com seputar-...@yahoogroups.com Cc: Obrolan bandar http://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=obrolan-ban...@yah oogroups.com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .
Bls: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL
Betul...Seratus utk Mbah... Chart BUMI yg kemaren,adakah yg bilang bagus..? hehehhe...mungkin yg ga ngerti Ta aja kali ya...wukakkaka tapi kok bisa naik ya hari ini...? hehehehe.. Buruan tanya ke Mbah aja dech... wukakaakk. salam. kobayashi. Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 16:15:36 Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Pada saat harga turun, TIDAK akan ada indicator yg bilang bagus karena umumnya indikator bekerja melihat gerakan harga, kalo harga naik otomatis indicator bagus dan sebaliknya. Tapi kemarin dan tadi pagi, IHSG dan BUMI turun, ITMG digebug dalam kemarin, si emailkesatu bekoar koar engga berhenti henti, engga tahu apa motifnya... Ternyata BENER inflow... Tapi apakah ini berarti BUMI masuk wave 3 disaat semua BC ada diwave 5 ?. atau cuman buat sementara ngeganjel IHSG doang ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@. .. wrote: Pagi yg sangat menghibur... Heheee... Motivenya utk Menghibur.. Hahaa.. -One shoot- financestockinfo. blogspot. com -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:55:53 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi BUMI inflow lagi Pagi ini BUMI inflow lagi melanjutkan Inflow kemarin sore... Motivenya belum jelas, apakah ini akumulasi atau hanya untuk menahan kejatuhan index IHSG -5. Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepat yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan IE8 di sini! http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
The Second Rojak, hehehehehehehee --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@... wrote: Apa hubungannya ma mahasiswa makasar ya. Ga ngerti gw. Haha.. Ente mahasiswa makasar ya bos ?? -One shoot- financestockinfo.blogspot.com From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bwijaya Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:32 PM To: ob Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka _ Dari: kobayashi mitsukuni http://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=ueno_kobaya...@yah oo.co.id ueno_kobaya...@... Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. http://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=seputar-...@yahoog roups.com seputar-...@yahoogroups.com Cc: Obrolan bandar http://mail.google.com/mail/h/cir35edmkgsm/?v=bcs=whto=obrolan-ban...@yah oogroups.com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .
Re: Bls: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL
Ada doong Masak ngga keliatan bagus sih?? Hehehe.. www.jsxtrader.com “ Trade By Rules, Not HOPE “ -Original Message- From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:27:32 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Betul...Seratus utk Mbah... Chart BUMI yg kemaren,adakah yg bilang bagus..? hehehhe...mungkin yg ga ngerti Ta aja kali ya...wukakkaka tapi kok bisa naik ya hari ini...? hehehehe.. Buruan tanya ke Mbah aja dech... wukakaakk. salam. kobayashi. Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 16:15:36 Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Pada saat harga turun, TIDAK akan ada indicator yg bilang bagus karena umumnya indikator bekerja melihat gerakan harga, kalo harga naik otomatis indicator bagus dan sebaliknya. Tapi kemarin dan tadi pagi, IHSG dan BUMI turun, ITMG digebug dalam kemarin, si emailkesatu bekoar koar engga berhenti henti, engga tahu apa motifnya... Ternyata BENER inflow... Tapi apakah ini berarti BUMI masuk wave 3 disaat semua BC ada diwave 5 ?. atau cuman buat sementara ngeganjel IHSG doang ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@. .. wrote: Pagi yg sangat menghibur... Heheee... Motivenya utk Menghibur.. Hahaa.. -One shoot- financestockinfo. blogspot. com -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:55:53 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi BUMI inflow lagi Pagi ini BUMI inflow lagi melanjutkan Inflow kemarin sore... Motivenya belum jelas, apakah ini akumulasi atau hanya untuk menahan kejatuhan index IHSG -5. Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepat yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan IE8 di sini! http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
Re: Bls: [ob] BUMI next support
HNS still holding, those who looking to get out should consider. http://yfrog.com/142009decbumiresourcestbkp --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta...@... wrote: Mantaff buy back lower. The HNS chart still valid unless broken. http://yfrog.com/6e2009novbumiresourcestbkp --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858@ wrote: Mental it is. Siap siap jualan ahh. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858@ wrote: Has BUMI completed it course yet? will we have a bounce?? You decide!!! Those who did their homework will sell at this point(as of 20/11/09) http://yfrog.com/e8bumi2yearp Those who consider buying http://yfrog.com/6e2009novbumiresourcestbkp --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858@ wrote: Level to watch for http://yfrog.com/1r2009novbumiresourcestbkp --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858@ wrote: mantafff diskon 30 perak lagi kekekeke --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, AB asepbuhori@ wrote: buletin aja pak jd 1900... Dari: tirta858@ tirta858@ Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Sen, 2 November, 2009 08:50:22 Judul: [ob] BUMI next support around 1930 level Selalu bersama teman-teman di Yahoo! Messenger. Tambahkan mereka dari email atau jaringan sosial Anda sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Bls: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL
hehehehe..Prof Jt.. Mbah mungkin pakai analisa Klasik..yg antikUnik. namun berseni tinggi.. dan manjur. hahahaa... salam. kobayashi.. Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 16:30:58 Judul: RE: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Eitsss.., jangan salah Mbah.., kemaren Bumi turun tapi coba liat Alligator AO, malah nongol keatas..., juga liat momentumnya yg malah naik padahal harga digebuk turun..., hehehe.. JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 09 Desember 2009 16:16 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Pada saat harga turun, TIDAK akan ada indicator yg bilang bagus karena umumnya indikator bekerja melihat gerakan harga, kalo harga naik otomatis indicator bagus dan sebaliknya. Tapi kemarin dan tadi pagi, IHSG dan BUMI turun, ITMG digebug dalam kemarin, si emailkesatu bekoar koar engga berhenti henti, engga tahu apa motifnya... Ternyata BENER inflow... Tapi apakah ini berarti BUMI masuk wave 3 disaat semua BC ada diwave 5 ?. atau cuman buat sementara ngeganjel IHSG doang ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@.. . wrote: Pagi yg sangat menghibur... Heheee... Motivenya utk Menghibur.. Hahaa.. -One shoot- financestockinfo. blogspot. com -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:55:53 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi BUMI inflow lagi Pagi ini BUMI inflow lagi melanjutkan Inflow kemarin sore... Motivenya belum jelas, apakah ini akumulasi atau hanya untuk menahan kejatuhan index IHSG -5. - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 Wajib militer di Indonesia? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! http://id.answers.yahoo.com
Re: [ob] Data IDX
Nah ketauan sering bolos. cari di arsip OB beberapa hari yg lalu . sejak 02 ~ 03 desdeh 2009/12/9 Antonio Banderas new.bande...@gmail.com http://202.155.2.90/_dl.asp?cmd=dlid=2TODIR=CURDIR=/download_data/daily/Stock_Summary/ Kok gak bisa di download yach filenya ?.. Antonio -- Lukman
Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL
Harusnya nunggu siemailkedua mbah Btw: tumben mas boys kok diem aja. Marah ya diledekin ama pak DE? Regards, -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:15:36 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Pada saat harga turun, TIDAK akan ada indicator yg bilang bagus karena umumnya indikator bekerja melihat gerakan harga, kalo harga naik otomatis indicator bagus dan sebaliknya. Tapi kemarin dan tadi pagi, IHSG dan BUMI turun, ITMG digebug dalam kemarin, si emailkesatu bekoar koar engga berhenti henti, engga tahu apa motifnya... Ternyata BENER inflow... Tapi apakah ini berarti BUMI masuk wave 3 disaat semua BC ada diwave 5 ?. atau cuman buat sementara ngeganjel IHSG doang ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@... wrote: Pagi yg sangat menghibur... Heheee... Motivenya utk Menghibur.. Hahaa.. -One shoot- financestockinfo.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:55:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi BUMI inflow lagi Pagi ini BUMI inflow lagi melanjutkan Inflow kemarin sore... Motivenya belum jelas, apakah ini akumulasi atau hanya untuk menahan kejatuhan index IHSG -5. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
2 thumbs up ! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.comwrote: Manteb dah CLSA, kombinasi antara support kuat 2,700 dan report CLSA 4,150 langsung bawa terbang HEXA, hahahhahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@... wrote: Iya Pak Herman, thanks banget ya atas infonya. Moga2 Pak Herman juga dapet profit gede hari ini, he.. he.. 2009/12/9, TimurLaut i4...@...: Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlat...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today's rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today's International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can't get any slower… Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a Sellers market here). Hexa is the dominate player in the super sized excavators with 100%, not typo here, market share in the over 250 ton class (Komatsu does not even have a product of this size). Coal miners continue to upgrade (even Pama buy them) to these super sized excavators for operating efficiency as their scale up their production. Bluesky for this stock will be from infrastructure spending accounting for less than 20% of sales compare to over 80% in this segment pre 1997. BUY! Key takeaways: * Demand for heavy equipment is set to accelerate over the coming years as demand for power, particularly coal-fired, is booming. Chinaand Indiathermal coal demand may expand by 700m tonnes in just five years, equal to current global seaborne thermal-coal market * The company sells 23% of its unit to mining sector, mostly coal companies and contractors, while revenue from mining unit contributing to 67% of total. * Note that the company sold 54 large and giant equipments in Jan-Aug vs. 28 units in 2008 and has further secured almost US$190m worth of contracts to deliver another 64 units of equipments in 2010 order book period * The company has successfully de-leveraged its balance sheet after seeing its net gearing peaked at 144% as of Dec06, with net gearing as of Sep09 stood at 33%. With its strong cash flow generation, we expect Hexindo to be in a net cash position in 2011. * Stock trades at 6.3x 2010 PER and 4.3x 2010 EV/Ebitda, still below its five years average
Bls: Bls: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL
hehhehe,,... mungkin ada bayangan Mba FIFi di Chart BUMI... jadi bagus dan naik... wuakakkaka... kabur..mandi dulu ah... salam. nb : mba Fifi hri ini kok ga kelihatan komen ya..? Dari: JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 16:41:26 Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Ada doong Masak ngga keliatan bagus sih?? Hehehe.. www.jsxtrader. com “ Trade By Rules, Not HOPE “ From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:27:32 +0800 (SGT) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Betul...Seratus utk Mbah... Chart BUMI yg kemaren,adakah yg bilang bagus..? hehehhe...mungkin yg ga ngerti Ta aja kali ya...wukakkaka. ... tapi kok bisa naik ya hari ini...? hehehehe.. Buruan tanya ke Mbah aja dech... wukakaakk. salam. kobayashi. Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 16:15:36 Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Pada saat harga turun, TIDAK akan ada indicator yg bilang bagus karena umumnya indikator bekerja melihat gerakan harga, kalo harga naik otomatis indicator bagus dan sebaliknya. Tapi kemarin dan tadi pagi, IHSG dan BUMI turun, ITMG digebug dalam kemarin, si emailkesatu bekoar koar engga berhenti henti, engga tahu apa motifnya... Ternyata BENER inflow... Tapi apakah ini berarti BUMI masuk wave 3 disaat semua BC ada diwave 5 ?. atau cuman buat sementara ngeganjel IHSG doang ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@. .. wrote: Pagi yg sangat menghibur... Heheee... Motivenya utk Menghibur.. Hahaa.. -One shoot- financestockinfo. blogspot. com -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:55:53 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi BUMI inflow lagi Pagi ini BUMI inflow lagi melanjutkan Inflow kemarin sore... Motivenya belum jelas, apakah ini akumulasi atau hanya untuk menahan kejatuhan index IHSG -5. Lebih Bersih, Lebih Baik, Lebih Cepat - Rasakan Yahoo! Mail baru yang Lebih Cepat hari ini! Lebih Bersih, Lebih Baik, Lebih Cepat - Rasakan Yahoo! Mail baru yang Lebih Cepat hari ini! http://id.mail.yahoo.com
Re: Bls: Bls: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL
Awasss terpeleset di kamar mandi! Wkwkwkkk Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:05:55 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: Bls: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL hehhehe,,... mungkin ada bayangan Mba FIFi di Chart BUMI... jadi bagus dan naik... wuakakkaka... kabur..mandi dulu ah... salam. nb : mba Fifi hri ini kok ga kelihatan komen ya..? Dari: JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 16:41:26 Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Ada doong Masak ngga keliatan bagus sih?? Hehehe.. www.jsxtrader. com “ Trade By Rules, Not HOPE “ From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:27:32 +0800 (SGT) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Betul...Seratus utk Mbah... Chart BUMI yg kemaren,adakah yg bilang bagus..? hehehhe...mungkin yg ga ngerti Ta aja kali ya...wukakkaka. ... tapi kok bisa naik ya hari ini...? hehehehe.. Buruan tanya ke Mbah aja dech... wukakaakk. salam. kobayashi. Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 16:15:36 Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Pada saat harga turun, TIDAK akan ada indicator yg bilang bagus karena umumnya indikator bekerja melihat gerakan harga, kalo harga naik otomatis indicator bagus dan sebaliknya. Tapi kemarin dan tadi pagi, IHSG dan BUMI turun, ITMG digebug dalam kemarin, si emailkesatu bekoar koar engga berhenti henti, engga tahu apa motifnya... Ternyata BENER inflow... Tapi apakah ini berarti BUMI masuk wave 3 disaat semua BC ada diwave 5 ?. atau cuman buat sementara ngeganjel IHSG doang ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@. .. wrote: Pagi yg sangat menghibur... Heheee... Motivenya utk Menghibur.. Hahaa.. -One shoot- financestockinfo. blogspot. com -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:55:53 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi BUMI inflow lagi Pagi ini BUMI inflow lagi melanjutkan Inflow kemarin sore... Motivenya belum jelas, apakah ini akumulasi atau hanya untuk menahan kejatuhan index IHSG -5. Lebih Bersih, Lebih Baik, Lebih Cepat - Rasakan Yahoo! Mail baru yang Lebih Cepat hari ini! Lebih Bersih, Lebih Baik, Lebih Cepat - Rasakan Yahoo! Mail baru yang Lebih Cepat hari ini! http://id.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
gak lah saya pemain kecil hehe (pelornya dikit) .BMTR sih gak tahu apa2 tapi ada info/rumor DOID nanti mau dibeli dewa sehingga kalau digabung gak jauh beda dari Pamapersada (the biggest mining contractor in indonesia).. (gak tahu duit dari mana..namanya juga B7...dan gak berani jamin info bener walaupun yg kasih info sering bener juga )...soalnya northstar (pemegang saham utama doid sekarang ) kan udah lama temenan ama bakrie...northstar kan juga pemegang saham convertible bond (kreditor) di BNBR juga) ... di daily CL bilang besok akan ada conference call sama manajemen DOID btw seingat saya dulu CL juga yg bilang BUMI akan beli Berau lewat recapital..kenyataannya bener sekarang --- On Wed, 12/9/09, TimurLaut i4...@yahoo.com wrote: From: TimurLaut i4...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 3:12 AM Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlatief@ yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakarta today as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today’s rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today’s International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesi to open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesia are changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesia is one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesia has come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakarta to be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakarta does not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can’t get any slower… Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a Sellers market here). Hexa is the dominate player in the super sized excavators with 100%, not typo here, market share in the over 250 ton class (Komatsu does not even have a product of this size). Coal miners continue to upgrade (even Pama buy them) to these super sized excavators for operating efficiency as their scale up their production. Bluesky for this stock will be from infrastructure spending accounting for less than 20% of sales compare to over 80% in this segment pre 1997. BUY! Key takeaways: Demand for heavy equipment is set to accelerate over the coming years as demand for power, particularly coal-fired, is booming. China and India thermal coal demand may expand by 700m tonnes in just five years, equal to current global seaborne thermal-coal market The company sells 23% of its unit to mining sector, mostly coal companies and contractors, while revenue from mining unit contributing to 67% of total. Note that the company sold 54 large and giant equipments in Jan-Aug vs. 28 units in 2008 and has further secured almost US$190m worth of contracts to deliver another 64 units of equipments in 2010 order book period The company has successfully de-leveraged its balance sheet after seeing its
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
Oom Herman BDnya HEXA? Postingnya 2x sdh benar2 terbukti. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:33:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Manteb dah CLSA, kombinasi antara support kuat 2,700 dan report CLSA 4,150 langsung bawa terbang HEXA, hahahhahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@... wrote: Iya Pak Herman, thanks banget ya atas infonya. Moga2 Pak Herman juga dapet profit gede hari ini, he.. he.. 2009/12/9, TimurLaut i4...@...: Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlat...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today's rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today's International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can't get any slower… Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a Sellers market here). Hexa is the dominate player in the super sized excavators with 100%, not typo here, market share in the over 250 ton class (Komatsu does not even have a product of this size). Coal miners continue to upgrade (even Pama buy them) to these super sized excavators for operating efficiency as their scale up their production. Bluesky for this stock will be from infrastructure spending accounting for less than 20% of sales compare to over 80% in this segment pre 1997. BUY! Key takeaways: * Demand for heavy equipment is set to accelerate over the coming years as demand for power, particularly coal-fired, is booming. Chinaand Indiathermal coal demand may expand by 700m tonnes in just five years, equal to current global seaborne thermal-coal market * The company sells 23% of its unit to mining sector, mostly coal companies and contractors, while revenue from mining unit contributing to 67% of total. * Note that the company sold 54 large and giant equipments in Jan-Aug vs. 28 units in 2008 and has further secured almost US$190m worth of contracts to deliver another 64 units of equipments in 2010 order book period * The company has successfully de-leveraged its balance sheet after seeing its net gearing peaked at 144% as of Dec06, with net gearing as of Sep09 stood at 33%. With its strong cash flow generation, we expect Hexindo to be in a net cash position in 2011.
Re: [ob] US Dollar Index
Orang-orang koq cepat berubah ya :D tempo hari bull banget..sampai bilang USD gak ada nilainya lagi. Sekarang panic seperti USD mau terbang ke langit ke tujuh. Santai aja lah.. take it easy. USD short term memang sepertinya dah bottom. Cuman mau naik koq sepertinya masih atur posisi. saya sih sekarang masih hold USD, tapi belum minat nambah. Tunggu reaksi dia waktu stoch 5,3,3 sedang berada di bawah. Hitungan saya sih minggu depan. Nah kalau seandainya konfirm higher high..saya juga belum akan ambil posisi. tunggu christmas eve-new years eve untuk ambil posisi av up. So..for me it's still a long way to go.. sekarang hold aja sambil lihat kanan-kiri 2009/12/9 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Wadew, kalo intermarket analisis coba kita minta Pak DE atau Pak Halim aja yg jawab…… JT *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *mikey *Sent:* 09 Desember 2009 10:46 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [ob] US Dollar Index Prof. kalau USD index jebol downtrendnya, ini kan warning 1 sebelum fed naikin suku bunga. Apakah index kita akan masih naik atau udah ada early warning bahwa kenaikan index sudah mulai terbatas? Dengan menguatnya usd, saya liat gold mulai turun, oil turun, dan akan di ikuti oleh harga commodity yang lainnya. Secara TA gimana prof? Saya lihat sih belum ada signal reversal untuk hari ini. Mungkin minggu depan setelah konsolidasi, bisa lain cerita yah. Kang acoy / pak hmin apa bisa tolong kasih masukan secara FA macro ekonomi? Ini untuk money management yg memegang 30% dari suksesnya seorang trader. Berapa % duit yg safe untuk trading dari portfolio kita dengan warning ini? 2009/12/9 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Maksudnya gimana, gimana nih? hehe….., ya dgn begitu sepertinya potensi turun sdh mulai terbatas, mungkin trend akan berubah dari downtrend ke Up-Trend atau SIDEWAYS…, tapi ini masih butuh konfirmasi lebih lanjut, dan saat ini belum ada, jadi statusnya masih BerPOTENSI… *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *andre...@yahoo.com *Sent:* 09 Desember 2009 10:29 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [ob] US Dollar Index Jd gmn om? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: *JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com *Date: *Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:27:07 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *RE: [ob] US Dollar Index Yup…, break resistant tuw…. JT [image: dollar.png] *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *mikey *Sent:* 09 Desember 2009 10:12 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [ob] US Dollar Index Prof JT, Bener apa ga yah, tadi liat chart USD index udah tembus $76? http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/usdollar-index/ 2009/12/8 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Harga mencoba menembus down trend resistance line + 50 EMA, namun gagal dan melemah kembali…., momentum penurunan mulai melemah, volume expanded, most likely penurunan akan mulai terbatas, namun belum ada tanda-tanda akan terjadi major reversal…., kemungkinan terbesar harga akan bergerak sideways untuk beberapa saat. JT Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.98/2551 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.98/2551 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 image001.png
[ob] IMF Raises South Korea's Growth Forecast
IMF Raises South Korea's Growth Forecast The International Monetary Fund on Tuesday revised up its growth forecast for the South Korean economy to 0.25% in 2009 from minus 1% Source: http://www.bigcapital.wordpress.com/
Re: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
Rojak lagi jual rujak di hi Gak mungkin rusuh katanya hehe canda Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: David Lau dj_davi...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:04:10 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Rojak lagi demo di HI prof... Regards,... DvD™ In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 2:54:32 PM Subject: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang si Rojak kemane nih…., Jaaakkk…, counter dooonggg !! masak ente diem aje, lu diledekin tuw… ! JT From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bwijaya Sent: 09 Desember 2009 14:32 To: ob Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang .kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari:kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .. Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00
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Busyet nih orang, hatinya BUSUK banget ya? Kayaknya seneng ya kalo indeks turun? Elo percaya ngak sih ama ya namanya KARMA? Nah, elo renungin aja d kalimat di atas... Kaaccciiaann deh lu...! O iya, for your information, hari ini gw dapet profit yg lumaaayyyaaannn banget dari HEXA. Pada tanggal 09/12/09, kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id menulis: wuakakakak.. entar usai market juga di komen kali.. sekarang lagi bingung dia.. mau buy apa kali.. biasanya suk teriak2 suruh buy..kl dia lg mau jualan.. hehehhehe... Dari: D0N Qicot o5ana_indone...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:24:58 Judul: Re: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Honda Jazz jadi Supra Fitt? regards, DonQicot DEWA gowes ke GoCeng !! From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:07:36 PM Subject: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang jangan2 lg jual mobil yg kemaren hasil Cuan utk tutup kerugian lagi nich..hhehehhee. . Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 14:54:32 Judul: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang si Rojak kemane nih…., Jaaakkk…, counter dooonggg !! masak ente diem aje, lu diledekin tuw… ! JT From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bwijaya Sent: 09 Desember 2009 14:32 To: ob Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang .kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari:kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .. Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo! Pingbox baru sekarang!! Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepat yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan IE8 di sini! http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
Wow, Billy hari ini kecipratan HEXA juga, ya? Tuh kan, orang BAIK kayak Billy, market merah aja masih dikasih rejeki. Apalagi kalo market ijo, pasti d udah kebeli kapal pesiar.:-D 2009/12/9, Pitt The Wid pitt.the@gmail.com: 2 thumbs up ! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.comwrote: Manteb dah CLSA, kombinasi antara support kuat 2,700 dan report CLSA 4,150 langsung bawa terbang HEXA, hahahhahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@... wrote: Iya Pak Herman, thanks banget ya atas infonya. Moga2 Pak Herman juga dapet profit gede hari ini, he.. he.. 2009/12/9, TimurLaut i4...@...: Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlat...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today's rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today's International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can't get any slower… Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a Sellers market here). Hexa is the dominate player in the super sized excavators with 100%, not typo here, market share in the over 250 ton class (Komatsu does not even have a product of this size). Coal miners continue to upgrade (even Pama buy them) to these super sized excavators for operating efficiency as their scale up their production. Bluesky for this stock will be from infrastructure spending accounting for less than 20% of sales compare to over 80% in this segment pre 1997. BUY! Key takeaways: * Demand for heavy equipment is set to accelerate over the coming years as demand for power, particularly coal-fired, is booming. Chinaand Indiathermal coal demand may expand by 700m tonnes in just five years, equal to current global seaborne thermal-coal market * The company sells 23% of its unit to mining sector, mostly coal companies and contractors, while revenue from mining unit contributing to 67% of total. * Note that the company sold 54 large and giant equipments in Jan-Aug vs. 28 units in 2008 and has further secured almost US$190m worth of contracts to deliver another 64 units of equipments in 2010 order book period * The company has successfully de-leveraged its balance sheet after seeing its net gearing peaked at
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
Wah market dah close. -Original Message- From: billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:33:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Manteb dah CLSA, kombinasi antara support kuat 2,700 dan report CLSA 4,150 langsung bawa terbang HEXA, hahahhahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@... wrote: Iya Pak Herman, thanks banget ya atas infonya. Moga2 Pak Herman juga dapet profit gede hari ini, he.. he.. 2009/12/9, TimurLaut i4...@...: Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlat...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today's rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today's International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can't get any slower… Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a Sellers market here). Hexa is the dominate player in the super sized excavators with 100%, not typo here, market share in the over 250 ton class (Komatsu does not even have a product of this size). Coal miners continue to upgrade (even Pama buy them) to these super sized excavators for operating efficiency as their scale up their production. Bluesky for this stock will be from infrastructure spending accounting for less than 20% of sales compare to over 80% in this segment pre 1997. BUY! Key takeaways: * Demand for heavy equipment is set to accelerate over the coming years as demand for power, particularly coal-fired, is booming. Chinaand Indiathermal coal demand may expand by 700m tonnes in just five years, equal to current global seaborne thermal-coal market * The company sells 23% of its unit to mining sector, mostly coal companies and contractors, while revenue from mining unit contributing to 67% of total. * Note that the company sold 54 large and giant equipments in Jan-Aug vs. 28 units in 2008 and has further secured almost US$190m worth of contracts to deliver another 64 units of equipments in 2010 order book period * The company has successfully de-leveraged its balance sheet after seeing its net gearing peaked at 144% as of Dec06, with net gearing as of Sep09 stood at 33%. With its strong cash flow generation, we expect Hexindo to be in a net cash position in 2011. * Stock trades at 6.3x 2010 PER and 4.3x 2010 EV/Ebitda, still below its five years
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
Billy emang org baik. Kalo gak baik mana mau jc deket ama dia. Btw : hexa ya, biasanya besok hexa turun pelan pelan. Regards, -Original Message- From: Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:06:18 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Wow, Billy hari ini kecipratan HEXA juga, ya? Tuh kan, orang BAIK kayak Billy, market merah aja masih dikasih rejeki. Apalagi kalo market ijo, pasti d udah kebeli kapal pesiar.:-D 2009/12/9, Pitt The Wid pitt.the@gmail.com: 2 thumbs up ! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.comwrote: Manteb dah CLSA, kombinasi antara support kuat 2,700 dan report CLSA 4,150 langsung bawa terbang HEXA, hahahhahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@... wrote: Iya Pak Herman, thanks banget ya atas infonya. Moga2 Pak Herman juga dapet profit gede hari ini, he.. he.. 2009/12/9, TimurLaut i4...@...: Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlat...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today's rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today's International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can't get any slower… Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a Sellers market here). Hexa is the dominate player in the super sized excavators with 100%, not typo here, market share in the over 250 ton class (Komatsu does not even have a product of this size). Coal miners continue to upgrade (even Pama buy them) to these super sized excavators for operating efficiency as their scale up their production. Bluesky for this stock will be from infrastructure spending accounting for less than 20% of sales compare to over 80% in this segment pre 1997. BUY! Key takeaways: * Demand for heavy equipment is set to accelerate over the coming years as demand for power, particularly coal-fired, is booming. Chinaand Indiathermal coal demand may expand by 700m tonnes in just five years, equal to current global seaborne thermal-coal market * The company sells 23% of its unit to mining sector, mostly coal companies and contractors, while revenue from
Re: Bls: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
Traktir kita dong boss Atau donasi ke ob deh, biar mbah bisa upgrade windows nya. Regards, -Original Message- From: Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:29:02 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Busyet nih orang, hatinya BUSUK banget ya? Kayaknya seneng ya kalo indeks turun? Elo percaya ngak sih ama ya namanya KARMA? Nah, elo renungin aja d kalimat di atas... Kaaccciiaann deh lu...! O iya, for your information, hari ini gw dapet profit yg lumaaayyyaaannn banget dari HEXA. Pada tanggal 09/12/09, kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id menulis: wuakakakak.. entar usai market juga di komen kali.. sekarang lagi bingung dia.. mau buy apa kali.. biasanya suk teriak2 suruh buy..kl dia lg mau jualan.. hehehhehe... Dari: D0N Qicot o5ana_indone...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:24:58 Judul: Re: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Honda Jazz jadi Supra Fitt? regards, DonQicot DEWA gowes ke GoCeng !! From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:07:36 PM Subject: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang jangan2 lg jual mobil yg kemaren hasil Cuan utk tutup kerugian lagi nich..hhehehhee. . Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 14:54:32 Judul: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang si Rojak kemane nih…., Jaaakkk…, counter dooonggg !! masak ente diem aje, lu diledekin tuw… ! JT From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bwijaya Sent: 09 Desember 2009 14:32 To: ob Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang .kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari:kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .. Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo! Pingbox baru sekarang!! Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepat yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan IE8 di sini! http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
Re: Bls: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
Dgr2 om arto gudangya dah penuh sumi2 neh hehd Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: A9 artomo...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:19:54 To: Ob groupobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Traktir kita dong boss Atau donasi ke ob deh, biar mbah bisa upgrade windows nya. Regards, -Original Message- From: Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:29:02 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Busyet nih orang, hatinya BUSUK banget ya? Kayaknya seneng ya kalo indeks turun? Elo percaya ngak sih ama ya namanya KARMA? Nah, elo renungin aja d kalimat di atas... Kaaccciiaann deh lu...! O iya, for your information, hari ini gw dapet profit yg lumaaayyyaaannn banget dari HEXA. Pada tanggal 09/12/09, kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id menulis: wuakakakak.. entar usai market juga di komen kali.. sekarang lagi bingung dia.. mau buy apa kali.. biasanya suk teriak2 suruh buy..kl dia lg mau jualan.. hehehhehe... Dari: D0N Qicot o5ana_indone...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:24:58 Judul: Re: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Honda Jazz jadi Supra Fitt? regards, DonQicot DEWA gowes ke GoCeng !! From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:07:36 PM Subject: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang jangan2 lg jual mobil yg kemaren hasil Cuan utk tutup kerugian lagi nich..hhehehhee. . Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 14:54:32 Judul: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang si Rojak kemane nih…., Jaaakkk…, counter dooonggg !! masak ente diem aje, lu diledekin tuw… ! JT From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bwijaya Sent: 09 Desember 2009 14:32 To: ob Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang .kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari:kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .. Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo! Pingbox baru sekarang!! Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepat yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan IE8 di sini! http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + +
Re: Bls: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
Setuju sama bozz A9... Gak usah traktir kita bozz... Tapi donasi aja ke mbah, sip kan? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ob] TWO DAYS WORKSHOP - Alligator Trading System
Terima kasih Prof untuk penjelasannya. Regards, Bandar Bola 2009/12/9 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Kalau yg dimaksud adalah profit OVERALL, YES Sir… System alligator pada awalnya adalah trend following system, tapi pada perkembangannya, system ini juga mampu dipakai untuk counter trend trading dengan SANGAT BAIK…, betul sekali, pada masa sideways kita akan sulit sekali cari duit, no matter system apa yg kita pakai ( kecuali jika sideways dalam range yang cukup lebar)…, Trader banyak kalah dalam masa sideways, karenanya kita sebaiknya jangan main disaat saham lagi sideways…., nah Alligator system akan kasih kita petanya dgn jelas, sehingga kita hindari dulu….., trus berarti kita keluar dari market?? Nop, pan ada saham yg lainnya…, hehe Anyway, the nice thing about alligator bukanlah akurasinya, tapi kelengkapannya…, sehingga kita bisa trading dengan baik dan benar, kalau sdh baik dan benar, maka dengan sendirinya peluang untuk menang akan jauh lebih besar dari kalah…, Not per Trade, tapi secara overall…. JT
RE: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL
Pak JT bener, ada BANYAK Buy signal dari Profitunity: 1. TWIN Peak Signal 2. Green Zone (AO and AC Accelerating) 3. AO Cross (kecil sekali) 4. Price and AO divergence HAHAHA. _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kobayashi mitsukuni Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:47 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL hehehehe..Prof Jt.. Mbah mungkin pakai analisa Klasik..yg antikUnik. namun berseni tinggi.. dan manjur. hahahaa... salam. kobayashi.. _ Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 16:30:58 Judul: RE: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Eitsss.., jangan salah Mbah.., kemaren Bumi turun tapi coba liat Alligator AO, malah nongol keatas..., juga liat momentumnya yg malah naik padahal harga digebuk turun..., hehehe.. JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 09 Desember 2009 16:16 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Pada saat harga turun, TIDAK akan ada indicator yg bilang bagus karena umumnya indikator bekerja melihat gerakan harga, kalo harga naik otomatis indicator bagus dan sebaliknya. Tapi kemarin dan tadi pagi, IHSG dan BUMI turun, ITMG digebug dalam kemarin, si emailkesatu bekoar koar engga berhenti henti, engga tahu apa motifnya... Ternyata BENER inflow... Tapi apakah ini berarti BUMI masuk wave 3 disaat semua BC ada diwave 5 ?. atau cuman buat sementara ngeganjel IHSG doang ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@.. . wrote: Pagi yg sangat menghibur... Heheee... Motivenya utk Menghibur.. Hahaa.. -One shoot- financestockinfo. blogspot. com -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:55:53 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi BUMI inflow lagi Pagi ini BUMI inflow lagi melanjutkan Inflow kemarin sore... Motivenya belum jelas, apakah ini akumulasi atau hanya untuk menahan kejatuhan index IHSG -5. - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) obrolan-bandar- dig...@yahoogrou ps.com obrolan-bandar- fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar- unsubscribe@ yahoogroups. com http://docs. yahoo.com/ info/terms/ Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 _ Menambah http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/trueswitch/mailtagline/*http://id.messe nger.yahoo.com/invite/ banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!
Re: Bls: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
Gudang ? Gudang garam kali? Btw si sumi atau suminah emang lengak lenggoknya masih sexy kok. Tuh ada yg denger sexy langsung menggelinjang. Gak konsen kerja. Hehehhehe == ketawanya org yg belon cuan. Regards, -Original Message- From: andre...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:26:11 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Dgr2 om arto gudangya dah penuh sumi2 neh hehd Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: A9 artomo...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:19:54 To: Ob groupobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Traktir kita dong boss Atau donasi ke ob deh, biar mbah bisa upgrade windows nya. Regards, -Original Message- From: Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:29:02 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Busyet nih orang, hatinya BUSUK banget ya? Kayaknya seneng ya kalo indeks turun? Elo percaya ngak sih ama ya namanya KARMA? Nah, elo renungin aja d kalimat di atas... Kaaccciiaann deh lu...! O iya, for your information, hari ini gw dapet profit yg lumaaayyyaaannn banget dari HEXA. Pada tanggal 09/12/09, kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id menulis: wuakakakak.. entar usai market juga di komen kali.. sekarang lagi bingung dia.. mau buy apa kali.. biasanya suk teriak2 suruh buy..kl dia lg mau jualan.. hehehhehe... Dari: D0N Qicot o5ana_indone...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:24:58 Judul: Re: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Honda Jazz jadi Supra Fitt? regards, DonQicot DEWA gowes ke GoCeng !! From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:07:36 PM Subject: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang jangan2 lg jual mobil yg kemaren hasil Cuan utk tutup kerugian lagi nich..hhehehhee. . Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 14:54:32 Judul: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang si Rojak kemane nih…., Jaaakkk…, counter dooonggg !! masak ente diem aje, lu diledekin tuw… ! JT From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bwijaya Sent: 09 Desember 2009 14:32 To: ob Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang .kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari:kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .. Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo!
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
Akan lebih baik lagi kalau postingnya sebelum kejadian he he Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: A9 artomo...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:19:02 To: Ob groupobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Billy emang org baik. Kalo gak baik mana mau jc deket ama dia. Btw : hexa ya, biasanya besok hexa turun pelan pelan. Regards, -Original Message- From: Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:06:18 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Wow, Billy hari ini kecipratan HEXA juga, ya? Tuh kan, orang BAIK kayak Billy, market merah aja masih dikasih rejeki. Apalagi kalo market ijo, pasti d udah kebeli kapal pesiar.:-D 2009/12/9, Pitt The Wid pitt.the@gmail.com: 2 thumbs up ! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.comwrote: Manteb dah CLSA, kombinasi antara support kuat 2,700 dan report CLSA 4,150 langsung bawa terbang HEXA, hahahhahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@... wrote: Iya Pak Herman, thanks banget ya atas infonya. Moga2 Pak Herman juga dapet profit gede hari ini, he.. he.. 2009/12/9, TimurLaut i4...@...: Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlat...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today's rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today's International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can't get any slower… Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a Sellers market here). Hexa is the dominate player in the super sized excavators with 100%, not typo here, market share in the over 250 ton class (Komatsu does not even have a product of this size). Coal miners continue to upgrade (even Pama buy them) to these super sized excavators for operating efficiency as their scale up their production. Bluesky for this stock will be from infrastructure spending accounting for less than 20% of sales compare to over 80% in this segment pre 1997. BUY! Key takeaways: * Demand for heavy equipment is set to accelerate over the coming years as demand for power, particularly
software Re: [ob] TWO DAYS WORKSHOP - Alligator Trading System
Ada tidak software trading yang bisa optimal untuk alligator system Metastock dan amibroker kurang maksimal. System aligator memiliki indikator yang shift 3-15 hari ke depan. Jadi semua signal yang terdapat di alogator hari ini sudah dapat dilihat 3 hari yang lalu. Adakah software yang bisa menampilkan idikator sampai 3 hari ke depan ? On 12/9/09, Bandar Bola bandarr.b...@gmail.com wrote: Terima kasih Prof untuk penjelasannya. Regards, Bandar Bola 2009/12/9 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Kalau yg dimaksud adalah profit OVERALL, YES Sir… System alligator pada awalnya adalah trend following system, tapi pada perkembangannya, system ini juga mampu dipakai untuk counter trend trading dengan SANGAT BAIK…, betul sekali, pada masa sideways kita akan sulit sekali cari duit, no matter system apa yg kita pakai ( kecuali jika sideways dalam range yang cukup lebar)…, Trader banyak kalah dalam masa sideways, karenanya kita sebaiknya jangan main disaat saham lagi sideways…., nah Alligator system akan kasih kita petanya dgn jelas, sehingga kita hindari dulu….., trus berarti kita keluar dari market?? Nop, pan ada saham yg lainnya…, hehe Anyway, the nice thing about alligator bukanlah akurasinya, tapi kelengkapannya…, sehingga kita bisa trading dengan baik dan benar, kalau sdh baik dan benar, maka dengan sendirinya peluang untuk menang akan jauh lebih besar dari kalah…, Not per Trade, tapi secara overall…. JT + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: software Re: [ob] TWO DAYS WORKSHOP - Alligator Trading System
Ada boss. Namanya bandarmology. Cuma sayang gak ada kursusnya. Dan suhunya cuma satu. Wuss. Kaboooeerrr... Regards, -Original Message- From: Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:36:25 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: software Re: [ob] TWO DAYS WORKSHOP - Alligator Trading System Ada tidak software trading yang bisa optimal untuk alligator system Metastock dan amibroker kurang maksimal. System aligator memiliki indikator yang shift 3-15 hari ke depan. Jadi semua signal yang terdapat di alogator hari ini sudah dapat dilihat 3 hari yang lalu. Adakah software yang bisa menampilkan idikator sampai 3 hari ke depan ? On 12/9/09, Bandar Bola bandarr.b...@gmail.com wrote: Terima kasih Prof untuk penjelasannya. Regards, Bandar Bola 2009/12/9 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Kalau yg dimaksud adalah profit OVERALL, YES Sir… System alligator pada awalnya adalah trend following system, tapi pada perkembangannya, system ini juga mampu dipakai untuk counter trend trading dengan SANGAT BAIK…, betul sekali, pada masa sideways kita akan sulit sekali cari duit, no matter system apa yg kita pakai ( kecuali jika sideways dalam range yang cukup lebar)…, Trader banyak kalah dalam masa sideways, karenanya kita sebaiknya jangan main disaat saham lagi sideways…., nah Alligator system akan kasih kita petanya dgn jelas, sehingga kita hindari dulu….., trus berarti kita keluar dari market?? Nop, pan ada saham yg lainnya…, hehe Anyway, the nice thing about alligator bukanlah akurasinya, tapi kelengkapannya…, sehingga kita bisa trading dengan baik dan benar, kalau sdh baik dan benar, maka dengan sendirinya peluang untuk menang akan jauh lebih besar dari kalah…, Not per Trade, tapi secara overall…. JT + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ob] US Dollar Index
Thank you pak Hmin. Btw, saya tidak berubah-rubah, dan saya bukan yang bilang usd tidak ada nilainya lagi. Yang export happy, yang import nangis-nangis karena biaya barang udah terlanjur mahal. Seinget saya emang ada miss yg bilang gitu (udah unsubcribe ob), maaf kalau salah. Kondisi market sekarang kan money inflow / outflow salah satunya tergantung dari politik lokal, kondisi global, usd rate, dan suku bunga. Beberapa kali nonton cnbc, alasan dow naik karena usd melemah, jadi wajar donk ada impactnya. Panik sih kagak, tapi saya ada kepentingan lain, mau beli usd banyak buat bayar utang perusahaan. Kalau bisa dapet lebih murah kenapa tidak? Tapi kalau udah mentok lownya kan kira-kira tau musti ngapain. Untuk saham2 yang utangnya banyak usd dan berbasis komoditas, kita kan juga bisa ancer2 apakah mereka masih bisa untung di tahun 2010 apa tidak dari selisih kurs. Saya liat harga-harga komoditas, terutama emas, naik bukan berdasarkan strong demand di sektor real, melainkan naik karena usd melemah + ada digoreng sama super bozz seperti goreng minyak ke $150. Thank you all atas inputnya
Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL
Embah keliatannya hepi banget hr ini ya? hehehe... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2009, at 19:31, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: Pak JT bener, ada BANYAK Buy signal dari Profitunity: 1. TWIN Peak Signal 2. Green Zone (AO and AC Accelerating) 3. AO Cross (kecil sekali) 4. Price and AO divergence HAHAHA. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kobayashi mitsukuni Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:47 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL hehehehe..Prof Jt.. Mbah mungkin pakai analisa Klasik..yg antikUnik. namun berseni tinggi.. dan manjur. hahahaa... salam. kobayashi.. Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 16:30:58 Judul: RE: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Eitsss.., jangan salah Mbah.., kemaren Bumi turun tapi coba liat Alligator AO, malah nongol keatas..., juga liat momentumnya yg malah naik padahal harga digebuk turun..., hehehe.. JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 09 Desember 2009 16:16 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Pada saat harga turun, TIDAK akan ada indicator yg bilang bagus karena umumnya indikator bekerja melihat gerakan harga, kalo harga naik otomatis indicator bagus dan sebaliknya. Tapi kemarin dan tadi pagi, IHSG dan BUMI turun, ITMG digebug dalam kemarin, si emailkesatu bekoar koar engga berhenti henti, engga tahu apa motifnya... Ternyata BENER inflow... Tapi apakah ini berarti BUMI masuk wave 3 disaat semua BC ada diwave 5 ?. atau cuman buat sementara ngeganjel IHSG doang ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@.. . wrote: Pagi yg sangat menghibur... Heheee... Motivenya utk Menghibur.. Hahaa.. -One shoot- financestockinfo. blogspot. com -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:55:53 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi BUMI inflow lagi Pagi ini BUMI inflow lagi melanjutkan Inflow kemarin sore... Motivenya belum jelas, apakah ini akumulasi atau hanya untuk menahan kejatuhan index IHSG -5. - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) obrolan-bandar- dig...@yahoogrou ps.com obrolan-bandar- fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar- unsubscribe@ yahoogroups. com http://docs. yahoo.com/ info/terms/ Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!
[ob] OOT: Ilusi Negara Kekuasaan
KOMPAS cetak Ilusi Negara Kekuasaan Rabu, 9 Desember 2009 | 04:44 WIBYonky Karman Suatu hari, Konfusius mendapati seorang perempuan tengah meratap di makam putranya. Sebelum itu, ayah mertuanya tewas, disusul dengan suaminya. Semua tewas dengan cara sama. Diterkam harimau. Sang Guru bertanya mengapa ia masih mau tinggal di tempat itu. Perempuan malang itu menjawab, ”Di sini tidak ada pemerintah yang menindas.” Kualitas demokrasi kita belum sepenuhnya dapat dibanggakan. Demokrasi belum untuk rakyat, baru untuk kekuasaan. Berhadapan dengan negara, posisi warga cenderung lemah, mudah menjadi obyek kriminalisasi penegak hukum, bahkan menjadi korban polisi yang main pukul. Hukum yang adil masih menjadi komoditas mahal dan sulit bagi rakyat pencari keadilan. Negara kuat Negara kuat dalam pengertian tradisional identik dengan kediktatoran. Pemerintah menyerap tindakan spontan masyarakat dengan intervensi politik. Politik represif dijalankan untuk menindas minoritas kreatif yang dianggap mengganggu stabilitas dan status quo. Suara kritis yang membuat penguasa jengah dibungkam dengan kriminalisasi. Minoritas kritis diperlawankan dengan massa yang menjadi bagian dari mesin kekuasaan. L’etat, c’est moi. Negara adalah penguasa. Penguasa adalah hukum. Yang penting dalam republik bukan publik, tetapi penguasa. Rakyat ada untuk negara (statism). Dalam bentuk substil, otoritarianisme disahkan struktur demokratis. Demokrasi prosedural, bukan demokrasi substantif, melegitimasi monopoli kekuasaan. Mekanisasi kontrol pemerintah seperti itu merupakan bahaya terbesar bagi perkembangan peradaban (Ortega, The Revolt of the Masses, 88). Problem dengan statism adalah negara menjadi kumpulan massa tanpa karakter. Birokrasi korup berlindung di balik rezim ketertutupan dan kerahasiaan. Belum selesai dengan Rancangan Undang-Undang Rahasia Negara yang cenderung represif, terus terjadi pelemahan Komisi Pemberantasan Korupsi (KPK). Yang terakhir adalah Rancangan Peraturan Pemerintah Penyadapan yang mengabaikan masukan dari KPK dan masyarakat antikorupsi. Pemerintah kuat berhadapan dengan rakyat kecil, tetapi lemah dengan kekuatan modal dan kepentingan asing. Gerakan ”Koin untuk Prita” hanya sebentuk solidaritas rakyat kecil melawan penegakan hukum yang mengabaikan rasa keadilan dan mengejek pemerintah yang membiarkan penegakan hukum seperti itu dibiarkan terjadi. Negara demokratis Negara demokratis adalah sebuah organisasi kekuasaan yang secara sadar dibentuk oleh rakyat untuk mempertahankan kedaulatannya dan mencapai cita-cita kehidupan bersama yang lebih baik. Penyelenggara negara mengemban kuasa dari rakyat untuk mencapai tujuan bernegara itu. Di situlah titik rawan relasi negara dan kekuasaan. Penyelenggara negara dapat terobsesi dengan kekuasaan dan negara menjauh dari tujuan awal. Sosok negara demokratis di dunia ketiga sering hadir berbeda dari harapan rakyat. Alih-alih dengan serius menyelenggarakan pemerintahan bersih, terjadi persekongkolan konstitusional antara eksekutif, legislatif, dan yudikatif. Lembaga-lembaga negara menjadi tempat aman bagi kleptokrasi, pebisnis curang yang ingin meraup laba besar, pemodal yang hendak menikmati kekayaan negeri di atas kemiskinan sebagian besar rakyat, koruptor yang mau memutihkan kekayaannya, dan pelaku kejahatan yang ingin memutihkan masa lalunya. Kolusi antara pejabat dan pemodal mudah terjadi di negara yang lemah penegakan hukumnya. Dibebani berbagai kepentingan penumpang gelap itu, gerak negara menjadi lamban dan cenderung inefisien. Negara mengalami kerugian besar akibat korupsi. Menurun kemampuannya untuk menyejahterakan rakyat. Indonesia menempati posisi ke-15 terkait kekayaan cadangan mineral. Namun, kekayaan negeri itu tidak dimanfaatkan sebesar-besarnya untuk kesejahteraan rakyat. Sebagian besar kekayaan alam negeri digadaikan kepada asing yang kebetulan menguasai teknologi mutakhir. Malangnya lagi, sesudah eksploitasi besar-besaran yang merusak lingkungan, kerusakan itu tak dapat dipulihkan. Rakyat di sekitar pertambangan terjerat kemiskinan. Pejabat dan wakil rakyat tidak peduli berapa banyak rakyat yang menjadi korban. Pesona kekuasaan membuat penguasa berupaya memerintah dengan kontrol seminimal mungkin, dengan alasan demi pembangunan dan stabilitas politik. Padahal, penguasa takut digoyang. Senyatanya birokrasi korup membuat negara keropos. Maka, kekuasaan harus dijinakkan dan diimbangi dengan kritik (Bertrand Russell, Power: A New Social Analysis, 1938). Kekuasaan tanpa kontrol identik dengan melanggengkan korupsi. Tidak benar pemberantasan korupsi menghambat pembangunan. Kecenderungan penguasa untuk memarkir dana pembangunan dalam bentuk surat berharga secara tak langsung membenarkan mentalitas pejabat kita yang terbiasa memanipulasi anggaran pembangunan. Inefisiensi penyelenggaraan negara disebabkan korupsi sistemik (Syed Hussein Alatas, Sosiologi Korupsi, 77). Pemberantasan korupsi di Indonesia kini memasuki
[ob] Dow fut
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Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL
Volume BUMI masih kering, dinaikin dikit sama BOZZ karena cuma dikit doang yg ikut kemarin. mBah kayaknya pura2 lupa nih ama *divergence BUMI vs OIL*, hehehe... BTW, Weekly MA200 OIL ada di 75,xx. BUMI resistance di 2650-2675, fibo ret 61.8%, or MA50-nya. Salam, 2009/12/9 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Pak JT bener, ada BANYAK Buy signal dari Profitunity: 1. TWIN Peak Signal 2. Green Zone (AO and AC Accelerating) 3. AO Cross (kecil sekali) 4. Price and AO divergence HAHAHA. -- *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *kobayashi mitsukuni *Sent:* Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:47 PM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Bls: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL hehehehe..Prof Jt.. Mbah mungkin pakai analisa Klasik..yg antikUnik. namun berseni tinggi.. dan manjur. hahahaa... salam. kobayashi.. -- *Dari:* JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com *Kepada:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Cc:* jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com *Terkirim:* Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 16:30:58 *Judul:* RE: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Eitsss.., jangan salah Mbah.., kemaren Bumi turun tapi coba liat Alligator AO, malah nongol keatas..., juga liat momentumnya yg malah naik padahal harga digebuk turun..., hehehe.. JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 09 Desember 2009 16:16 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi - Indikator KADAL Pada saat harga turun, TIDAK akan ada indicator yg bilang bagus karena umumnya indikator bekerja melihat gerakan harga, kalo harga naik otomatis indicator bagus dan sebaliknya. Tapi kemarin dan tadi pagi, IHSG dan BUMI turun, ITMG digebug dalam kemarin, si emailkesatu bekoar koar engga berhenti henti, engga tahu apa motifnya... Ternyata BENER inflow... Tapi apakah ini berarti BUMI masuk wave 3 disaat semua BC ada diwave 5 ?. atau cuman buat sementara ngeganjel IHSG doang ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@.. . wrote: Pagi yg sangat menghibur... Heheee... Motivenya utk Menghibur.. Hahaa.. -One shoot- financestockinfo. blogspot. com -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:55:53 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] BUMI inflow lagi BUMI inflow lagi Pagi ini BUMI inflow lagi melanjutkan Inflow kemarin sore... Motivenya belum jelas, apakah ini akumulasi atau hanya untuk menahan kejatuhan index IHSG -5. - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) obrolan-bandar- dig...@yahoogrou ps.com obrolan-bandar- fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar- unsubscribe@ yahoogroups. com http://docs. yahoo.com/ info/terms/ Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 -- Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/trueswitch/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
Ada engga yah, member OB yg bisa prediksi saham X bisa naik Y% dalam Z hari ?. Engga usah tepat tepat yg penting naik nya mendekati Y% Kalo ada banyak yg pake Ferrari kaya pak Rojak. Setahu embah, yg bisa begini itu pak Irwan Ariston, dulu dia meramalkan kenaikan BUMI yg spektakuler saat BUMI masih murah banget. Kalo yg begini 5 Ferrari + 5 kapal pesiar juga bisa dapet... Pak Rojak mau coba ?, or anyone ?. Banyaknya, beli nya ENGGA bilang tapi kalo naek, HEBOHnya luar biasa... padahal kelakuan begini kan NYEBELIN... hihihi... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tasru...@... wrote: Akan lebih baik lagi kalau postingnya sebelum kejadian he he Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: A9 artomo...@... Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:19:02 To: Ob groupobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Billy emang org baik. Kalo gak baik mana mau jc deket ama dia. Btw : hexa ya, biasanya besok hexa turun pelan pelan. Regards, -Original Message- From: Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@... Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:06:18 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Wow, Billy hari ini kecipratan HEXA juga, ya? Tuh kan, orang BAIK kayak Billy, market merah aja masih dikasih rejeki. Apalagi kalo market ijo, pasti d udah kebeli kapal pesiar.:-D 2009/12/9, Pitt The Wid pitt.the@...: 2 thumbs up ! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@...wrote: Manteb dah CLSA, kombinasi antara support kuat 2,700 dan report CLSA 4,150 langsung bawa terbang HEXA, hahahhahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.mawar@ wrote: Iya Pak Herman, thanks banget ya atas infonya. Moga2 Pak Herman juga dapet profit gede hari ini, he.. he.. 2009/12/9, TimurLaut i4n05@: Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlatief@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today's rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today's International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can't get any slower Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this
[ob] rasuna said / pm : 25 Min.
lebaran di bulan Dezember. mantep pisan Jakarta hari ini. jalanan kosong. tol kosong. pantat kaga cape. kaki kaga pegel. belon pernah secepat ini sampai di rumah. __ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
Haizzz, ane gak main HEXA bung rojak, ane cuma kagum aje, report FA HEXA by CLSA pas dengan support kuat HEXA di 2,700, istilahnya TECHNICAL CONFIRMED BY NEWS, jadi naiknya lebih kenceng hahahhahaha, amin deh --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@... wrote: Wow, Billy hari ini kecipratan HEXA juga, ya? Tuh kan, orang BAIK kayak Billy, market merah aja masih dikasih rejeki. Apalagi kalo market ijo, pasti d udah kebeli kapal pesiar.:-D 2009/12/9, Pitt The Wid pitt.the@...: 2 thumbs up ! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@...wrote: Manteb dah CLSA, kombinasi antara support kuat 2,700 dan report CLSA 4,150 langsung bawa terbang HEXA, hahahhahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.mawar@ wrote: Iya Pak Herman, thanks banget ya atas infonya. Moga2 Pak Herman juga dapet profit gede hari ini, he.. he.. 2009/12/9, TimurLaut i4n05@: Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlatief@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today's rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today's International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can't get any slower Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a Sellers market here). Hexa is the dominate player in the super sized excavators with 100%, not typo here, market share in the over 250 ton class (Komatsu does not even have a product of this size). Coal miners continue to upgrade (even Pama buy them) to these super sized excavators for operating efficiency as their scale up their production. Bluesky for this stock will be from infrastructure spending accounting for less than 20% of sales compare to over 80% in this segment pre 1997. BUY! Key takeaways: * Demand for heavy equipment is set to accelerate over the coming years as demand for power, particularly coal-fired, is booming. Chinaand Indiathermal coal demand may expand by 700m tonnes in just five years, equal to current global seaborne thermal-coal market * The company sells 23% of its unit to mining sector, mostly coal companies and contractors,
[ob] Re: rasuna said / pm : 25 Min.
Sepi lantaran ada Demo anti korupsi Tapi coba 5 atau 10 tahun lagi, kalo korupsi engga dibrantas JUGA dan rakyat miskin tambah banyak, bisa bisa pada hari Anti Korupsi bakalan SEPI karena sebagian penduduk dan pejabat pada ngungsi ... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Cleopatras Cat cleopatras.c...@... wrote: lebaran di bulan Dezember. mantep pisan Jakarta hari ini. jalanan kosong. tol kosong. pantat kaga cape. kaki kaga pegel. belon pernah secepat ini sampai di rumah. __ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
ini kurang kerjaan dah postingannya, wakakakakkakaa ya, HEXA biasa demennya absi bikin candle panjang, turun pelan2 and mungkin besok bisa naik dikit dulu, hehehehee --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, A9 artomo...@... wrote: Billy emang org baik. Kalo gak baik mana mau jc deket ama dia. Btw : hexa ya, biasanya besok hexa turun pelan pelan. Regards, -Original Message- From: Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@... Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:06:18 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Wow, Billy hari ini kecipratan HEXA juga, ya? Tuh kan, orang BAIK kayak Billy, market merah aja masih dikasih rejeki. Apalagi kalo market ijo, pasti d udah kebeli kapal pesiar.:-D 2009/12/9, Pitt The Wid pitt.the@...: 2 thumbs up ! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@...wrote: Manteb dah CLSA, kombinasi antara support kuat 2,700 dan report CLSA 4,150 langsung bawa terbang HEXA, hahahhahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.mawar@ wrote: Iya Pak Herman, thanks banget ya atas infonya. Moga2 Pak Herman juga dapet profit gede hari ini, he.. he.. 2009/12/9, TimurLaut i4n05@: Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlatief@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today's rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today's International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can't get any slower Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a Sellers market here). Hexa is the dominate player in the super sized excavators with 100%, not typo here, market share in the over 250 ton class (Komatsu does not even have a product of this size). Coal miners continue to upgrade (even Pama buy them) to these super sized excavators for operating efficiency as their scale up their production. Bluesky for this stock will be from infrastructure spending accounting for less than 20% of sales compare to over 80% in this segment pre 1997. BUY! Key takeaways: * Demand for heavy equipment is set to accelerate
Re: Bls: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
selamat bung rojak, ferrarinya dah berapa nih ? hehehehehh --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@... wrote: Busyet nih orang, hatinya BUSUK banget ya? Kayaknya seneng ya kalo indeks turun? Elo percaya ngak sih ama ya namanya KARMA? Nah, elo renungin aja d kalimat di atas... Kaaccciiaann deh lu...! O iya, for your information, hari ini gw dapet profit yg lumaaayyyaaannn banget dari HEXA. Pada tanggal 09/12/09, kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@... menulis: wuakakakak.. entar usai market juga di komen kali.. sekarang lagi bingung dia.. mau buy apa kali.. biasanya suk teriak2 suruh buy..kl dia lg mau jualan.. hehehhehe... Dari: D0N Qicot o5ana_indone...@... Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:24:58 Judul: Re: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Honda Jazz jadi Supra Fitt? regards, DonQicot DEWA gowes ke GoCeng !! From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:07:36 PM Subject: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang jangan2 lg jual mobil yg kemaren hasil Cuan utk tutup kerugian lagi nich..hhehehhee. . Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 14:54:32 Judul: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang si Rojak kemane nih ., Jaaakkk , counter dooonggg !! masak ente diem aje, lu diledekin tuw ! JT From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bwijaya Sent: 09 Desember 2009 14:32 To: ob Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang .kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari:kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .. Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo! Pingbox baru sekarang!! Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepat yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan IE8 di sini! http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
Coba kita lihat nasib HEXA besok besok - Apakah HEXA cuman diangkat pake prediksi CLSA atau - HEXA naik karena analisa CLSA dipercaya market. Kedua hal diatas berbeda, yg pertama ada 'PROVOKATOR'nya dan yg kedua GERAKAN MASA market tanpa PROVOKATOR... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@... wrote: Haizzz, ane gak main HEXA bung rojak, ane cuma kagum aje, report FA HEXA by CLSA pas dengan support kuat HEXA di 2,700, istilahnya TECHNICAL CONFIRMED BY NEWS, jadi naiknya lebih kenceng hahahhahaha, amin deh --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.mawar@ wrote: Wow, Billy hari ini kecipratan HEXA juga, ya? Tuh kan, orang BAIK kayak Billy, market merah aja masih dikasih rejeki. Apalagi kalo market ijo, pasti d udah kebeli kapal pesiar.:-D 2009/12/9, Pitt The Wid Pitt.The.Wid@: 2 thumbs up ! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudiman92@wrote: Manteb dah CLSA, kombinasi antara support kuat 2,700 dan report CLSA 4,150 langsung bawa terbang HEXA, hahahhahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.mawar@ wrote: Iya Pak Herman, thanks banget ya atas infonya. Moga2 Pak Herman juga dapet profit gede hari ini, he.. he.. 2009/12/9, TimurLaut i4n05@: Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlatief@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today's rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today's International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can't get any slower Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a Sellers market here). Hexa is the dominate player in the super sized excavators with 100%, not typo here, market share in the over 250 ton class (Komatsu does not even have a product of this size). Coal miners continue to upgrade (even Pama buy them) to these super sized excavators for operating efficiency as their scale up their production. Bluesky for this stock will be from infrastructure spending accounting for less than
[ob] Dean embraces Senate compromise on health care
yg namanya Dean semuanya orangnya pinter2 ya ;-)Former Gov. Dean lauds Senate deal on public health care option, saying it's 'a step forward'Quelle: yahoo.com WASHINGTON (AP) -- A staunch supporter of a public option to expand health care says he's encouraged by a Senate compromise on the troublesome issue. Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, a physician, said Wednesday he believes opening up Medicare to people 55 to 64 years old gives momentum to the quest for a health care overhaul, putting it on the right track. The former Democratic presidential candidate and party chairman said on CBS's The Early Show that Medicare already is a single payer run by the government. This moves things forward. Dean called it real reform. Whatever we call it is irrelevant. Dean said he hopes the final version of the legislation involves expansion of care in America. __ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com
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oh...Bang Rojak... hehehhe..sebelumnya maaf..ya. saya cuma bercanda.. susah panggil Abang Rojak keluar utk komen2 padahal...komen2 Abang tuh kadang bagus,dan ada kocaknya juga.. kocak kl sdh di komen lagi oleh rekan2 kali ya..hahahhaaa.. dan kadang yg direkomen bang Rojak..utk main swing bgs.. saat demo tadi berlangsung...sebetulnya postingan Komen2 Bang Rojak sangat dinantikan.. kali2 aja bisa di-jadikan patokan utk trading.. hehhehee.. syukurlah..kalau bang Rojak hr ini cuan gede.. wah..mau undang2 makan dong ..? hahahhaaa... btw besok bagaimana nich bang Rojak.. khususnya bumi.. hold,buy lagi atau sell Tp..? trims ya... maaf ya Bang Rojak.. Salam. kobayshi. Dari: Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@gmail.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 16:29:02 Judul: Re: Bls: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Busyet nih orang, hatinya BUSUK banget ya? Kayaknya seneng ya kalo indeks turun? Elo percaya ngak sih ama ya namanya KARMA? Nah, elo renungin aja d kalimat di atas... Kaaccciiaann deh lu...! O iya, for your information, hari ini gw dapet profit yg lumaaayyyaaannn banget dari HEXA. Pada tanggal 09/12/09, kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id menulis: wuakakakak.. entar usai market juga di komen kali.. sekarang lagi bingung dia.. mau buy apa kali.. biasanya suk teriak2 suruh buy..kl dia lg mau jualan.. hehehhehe... Dari: D0N Qicot o5ana_indone...@yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 15:24:58 Judul: Re: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Honda Jazz jadi Supra Fitt? regards, DonQicot DEWA gowes ke GoCeng !! From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 3:07:36 PM Subject: Bls: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang jangan2 lg jual mobil yg kemaren hasil Cuan utk tutup kerugian lagi nich..hhehehhee. . Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 14:54:32 Judul: Paging ROJAK - RE: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang si Rojak kemane nih…., Jaaakkk…, counter dooonggg !! masak ente diem aje, lu diledekin tuw… ! JT From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bwijaya Sent: 09 Desember 2009 14:32 To: ob Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang .kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari:kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. .. Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 9.0.709 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.99/2553 - Tanggal Rilis: 12/09/09 02:54:00 Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo! Pingbox baru sekarang!! Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepat yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih
Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang
Klo besok sumi masih lanjut naik masih brani posting ga ni orang... Klo ga muncul2 lg brarti pengecut.. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: arfian yuddy ayahnyana...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 04:45:50 To: bayu_kusuma_wardh...@yahoo.combayu_kusuma_wardh...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Hahaha..tnyata si brawijaya kmakan yah ma isu yg udah dlemparin bozz..masih amatiran sih..btw thanks ya bro,dah ksih brang,n hr ini ane cuan lmyan..piss man bayu_kusuma_wardh...@yahoo.com wrote: Muantap dah thx bwijaya ane hari ini malah cuan gara2 ente kmrn teriak2 sell, ane sikat aja..hahahaha Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® From: toto aja tototj...@gmail. com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:15:34 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Gmn Mas Bwijaya ? ilang barang ya ? kaciyannn deh lu. makanya jadi orang jangan songong. Kalo tadi elu bilang ada yang counter tentang Makasar, ya di Makasar emang gitu kalo demo. gak pernah nonton buser siang ya Mas ? Lagian kalo yang takut ada sentimen jelek gara2 hari anti korupsi mah udah pada kabur dari kemarin. Malah hari ini pada buy back. Besok2 jangan songong lagi ya Mas. peace. -toto- 2009/12/9 Panji d_pa...@yahoo. com Wakakakkakaak Kompor mleduk.com Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT From: bayu_kusuma_ wardhana@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:35:06 + To: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang Brisik amat ya Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® From: Bwijaya emailkesatu@ gmail.com Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:32:19 +0700 To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] masih banyak yang simpen barang wah dari komentar-komentar di Ob terlihat masih banyak yang counter berita tentang kejadian makasar ini berarti ada ketakutan..akan dampak berita buruk... karena berita buruk akan membawa sentimen negatif pada bursa.. ini artinya masih banyak yang punya barang jgn dulu di tarik boz ntar berat di jalan... turunin dulu bozz penumpangnya short dulu aja short !!! lagian dji , hsi, ftse dan ihsg masih pada overbought ntar kalo penumpang dah pada turun baru tarikkk kan jadi enteng hehehe lagian sih kenapa dari kemarin gak dijual dulu jadi aja keburu merah gini kan repot mana sumi supportnya masih jauh di bawah lagi masih 2150 lah soalnya 2325 mah suport nya gak kuat belum pernah di test kalo support 2150 udah di test 3 kali, jadi support kuat nah misalkan sumi turun dari sekarang di 2450 ke 2150 berapa persen tuh... efeknya...wah indeks mau turun keberapa coba... ? so gimana dung..masih mau bertahan? ckckck emang sulit trading. kalo ditahan barang kenaikan terbatas tapi risk cukup besar karena support masih dibawah... buat yang sudah cash enak ...kata pakar TA yang tadi pagi posting juga sabar dulu...artinya jgn buy dulu karena risk masih tinggi.. karena indeks masih mungkin turun dgn kondisi overbught seperti ini...so keputusan ada ditangan andaini sekedar opini saja, bebas aja toh beropini ga bahaya..ini sdh ada yg merespon..sbb : Gak bahaya...cuman salah faham krn mahasd eh mahasiswa ada yg luka Dari: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id Kepada: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com Cc: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 13:19:09 Judul: [ob] DEMO demo di depan kantor gubernur Sulawesi selatanan Makasar,terjadi bentrokan antara polisi dan mahasiswa..berita di Metro TV...masih berlangsung. . + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150
HEXA itu suka ga lama di atas mbah.. Kyk tempo hari pernah ujug2 ke 3200, bsoknya lsg turun terus.. Padahal wkt itu valuasi nya 3800.. Mungkin yg skarang jg.. Tp kalo lanjut ya tambooo.. Hehe.. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:41:45 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Coba kita lihat nasib HEXA besok besok - Apakah HEXA cuman diangkat pake prediksi CLSA atau - HEXA naik karena analisa CLSA dipercaya market. Kedua hal diatas berbeda, yg pertama ada 'PROVOKATOR'nya dan yg kedua GERAKAN MASA market tanpa PROVOKATOR... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@... wrote: Haizzz, ane gak main HEXA bung rojak, ane cuma kagum aje, report FA HEXA by CLSA pas dengan support kuat HEXA di 2,700, istilahnya TECHNICAL CONFIRMED BY NEWS, jadi naiknya lebih kenceng hahahhahaha, amin deh --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.mawar@ wrote: Wow, Billy hari ini kecipratan HEXA juga, ya? Tuh kan, orang BAIK kayak Billy, market merah aja masih dikasih rejeki. Apalagi kalo market ijo, pasti d udah kebeli kapal pesiar.:-D 2009/12/9, Pitt The Wid Pitt.The.Wid@: 2 thumbs up ! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudiman92@wrote: Manteb dah CLSA, kombinasi antara support kuat 2,700 dan report CLSA 4,150 langsung bawa terbang HEXA, hahahhahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.mawar@ wrote: Iya Pak Herman, thanks banget ya atas infonya. Moga2 Pak Herman juga dapet profit gede hari ini, he.. he.. 2009/12/9, TimurLaut i4n05@: Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? From: M Herman hermanlatief@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today's rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today's International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can't get any slower… Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a
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maaf..tertahan di RESISTANCE kuatny di 2975... Dari: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 19:59:57 Judul: Bls: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 betul tuh..tadi tertahan di support kuatnya 2975.. kayanya besok bisa2 dojihehhehee... Dari: billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 9 Desember, 2009 19:28:21 Judul: Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 ini kurang kerjaan dah postingannya, wakakakakkakaa ya, HEXA biasa demennya absi bikin candle panjang, turun pelan2 and mungkin besok bisa naik dikit dulu, hehehehee --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, A9 artomo...@. .. wrote: Billy emang org baik. Kalo gak baik mana mau jc deket ama dia. Btw : hexa ya, biasanya besok hexa turun pelan pelan. Regards, -Original Message- From: Muhamad Rojak muhamad.mawar@ ... Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:06:18 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Wow, Billy hari ini kecipratan HEXA juga, ya? Tuh kan, orang BAIK kayak Billy, market merah aja masih dikasih rejeki. Apalagi kalo market ijo, pasti d udah kebeli kapal pesiar.: -D 2009/12/9, Pitt The Wid Pitt.The.Wid@ ...: 2 thumbs up ! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudiman92@ ...wrote: Manteb dah CLSA, kombinasi antara support kuat 2,700 dan report CLSA 4,150 langsung bawa terbang HEXA, hahahhahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.mawar@ wrote: Iya Pak Herman, thanks banget ya atas infonya. Moga2 Pak Herman juga dapet profit gede hari ini, he.. he.. 2009/12/9, TimurLaut i4n05@: Pak Herman ini Jenderal juga ya? kaya Jenderal Arto.Banyak ammo nya. Jam 11.16.24 tadi HEXA masih 2775. Punten, apa lagi ya pak? BMTR boleh nggak Pak? ___ _ _ ___ From: M Herman hermanlatief@ To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:16:24 AM Subject: [ob] Daily CL...HEXA new coverage TP 4150 Good morning. There has been talk about big rallies in Jakartatoday as 11 public demonstrations are scheduled to mark the International Anti-Corruption Day. Interestingly, despite earlier remarks that today's rallies against corruption could potentially be hijacked by rogue elements, President SBY welcomes the rally. The President further urged the public to celebrate today's International Anti-Corruption Day peacefully. Perhaps coincidental, the President cancelled a planned visit to Makassar in South Sulawesito open the 52nd Nusantara Day today. Perhaps more interesting is that President SBY confirmed yesterday that he will allow the Anti Corruption Commission (KPK) to continue wiretapping extraordinary crimes as part of his mission to combat corruption. President SBY also said that he disagreed with any efforts to strip the KPK of its power to prosecute which have come up in the deliberation of the pending corruption court bill. The attitudes toward corruption in Indonesiaare changing. KPK has very strong public support. The press in Indonesiais one of the freest in Asia. Change begins at the margin. Indonesiahas come very far, but anticorruption efforts must continue. The estimate on the number of marchers is varied from 40-100k. Some even mentioned 300k (highly unlikely, I think). But one thing is sure to happen today. We can expect Central and South Jakartato be mired in gridlock. Jakartans have been told to leave home earlier. Rally schedules and plans are widely distributed. No less than 13k officers would be deployed to make sure that the rallies remain peaceful. Jakartadoes not need extra problems to compound to its massive traffic problems. Average vehicle speed on roads is already so slow at 20km/hour. Can't get any slower… Research Today: Hexindo, Excavating returns - Initiate with a BUY - Tp4,150 This is one of my high conviction pick in the small cap space (mkt cap US$245). They are second biggest heavy equipment (Hitachi)distributo r in Indonesia trading on on 6.3x 2010CL while churning over 40% ROE with a sweet 5% divy yield. This compare to 13x 2010CL, 25% ROE for United Tractors. Their revenue and operating profit has been growing at 33% and 52% CAGR over the past five years Hexa with a more focused business model with considerably higher earnings growth arguably should not be trading at a discount to UT in this part of cycle (a Sellers market here). Hexa is the dominate player in the super sized excavators with
